How Rhythm Drives The Music Of Ace Combat

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  • čas přidán 18. 08. 2019
  • Lots of music theory discussion centers around elements of melody and harmony, but relatively little is written about rhythm. Specifically, I haven't found nearly as much discussion on the theory behind how 'beats' work as I have for other aspects of composition, and as a drummer, I found it exciting to explore the rhythmic side of the Ace Combat series' music. Hopefully you find it just as exciting to watch this video!
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  • @ROBOHOLIC1
    @ROBOHOLIC1 Před 4 lety +3182

    Me: *Not knowing a single thing about music theory*
    *Nods in agreement*

  • @Mobius08
    @Mobius08 Před 4 lety +2829

    This video basically feels like a well-deserved love letter to Keiki Kobayashi and everyone else who worked on the music in the Ace Combat series.

    • @jackiebrown5680
      @jackiebrown5680 Před 4 lety +31

      Thanks mobius 8 very cool

    • @ZemplinTemplar
      @ZemplinTemplar Před 4 lety +17

      The series has an excellent roster of composers, Mr. Kobayashi in particular. They've all done exceptional work over the years.

    • @yellow13_
      @yellow13_ Před 4 lety +5

      Mobius08 Mobius 8 on standby

    • @Hamza8349
      @Hamza8349 Před 4 lety +13

      Also Keiki Kobayashi, Tetsukazu Nakanishi, Hiroshi Okubu, Junichi Nakatsaru etc composed music for Tekken games too. Those soundtracks are also quite epic.

    • @Vanessaira-Retro
      @Vanessaira-Retro Před 4 lety +6

      @@Hamza8349 Don't forget Soul Calibur!

  • @richitzer
    @richitzer Před 4 lety +780

    "There are songs like you in every generation, and I've written every last one of them." -Keiki Kobayashi, probably

  • @Omegasaxon
    @Omegasaxon Před 4 lety +2950

    You forgot to talk about how the missile warning sound provides even more rhythmic dissonance in Daredevil-
    Oh. Wait, that's NOT part of the song?

    • @krebsfish5035
      @krebsfish5035 Před 4 lety +165

      you can think that it is, but the warning tune is not there in the official release

    • @RyuKimGaming
      @RyuKimGaming Před 4 lety +40

      I was going to said that hahaha

    • @its-amemegatron.9521
      @its-amemegatron.9521 Před 4 lety +217

      @@krebsfish5035
      What do you mean "Here comes the snow" and the V2 launch sounds aren't part of Zero?

    • @bruvaguren494
      @bruvaguren494 Před 4 lety +149

      @@its-amemegatron.9521 so are you telling me "Too bad buddy, this twisted game needs to be reset. We'll start over from ZERO with this V2. Entrusting the future to the next generation" is not part of the soundtrack?

    • @rgm96x49
      @rgm96x49 Před 4 lety +135

      @@bruvaguren494 Pixy is part of the soundtrack. What, did you think those Spanish guitars were playing themselves?

  • @RadicalRaymondd
    @RadicalRaymondd Před 4 lety +3175

    Ace Combat Music getting some recognition hell yeah gamer 👏

  • @doppurr
    @doppurr Před 4 lety +3175

    As an Ace Combat fan, I want to say thank you for bringing some attention to the series.

    • @sveinungnygaard1505
      @sveinungnygaard1505 Před 4 lety +9

      The game looks awesome!

    • @OkonkwoPlaysBass
      @OkonkwoPlaysBass Před 4 lety +65

      @@sveinungnygaard1505 All AC games from 4 onwards (excluding Assault Horizon) are incredible

    • @kaadn18
      @kaadn18 Před 4 lety +2

      Haha the music is great

    • @TexasGreed
      @TexasGreed Před 4 lety +29

      @@OkonkwoPlaysBass Ace combat 3 is really good too bro. Don't sleep on it just because it's for ps1.

    • @aviationdude9546
      @aviationdude9546 Před 4 lety +4

      OkonkwoPlaysBass cough assault horizon cough cough

  • @giggityguy
    @giggityguy Před 4 lety +1357

    11:47 You know he's got mad respecc for the composition when he transcribed almost an entire minute of music and just let it play uninterrupted

    • @Bootstothemaximum
      @Bootstothemaximum Před 4 lety +128

      He didn't play the drop in that song though, so I'm a little miffed. But still happy this amazing series is getting more recognition.

    • @rarewhiteape
      @rarewhiteape Před 4 lety +111

      Now listen to that song while you're deep into an intense mission and you've got 10% health left.
      Yeah. AC7 is a special thing.

    • @demonlordotrt754
      @demonlordotrt754 Před 4 lety +17

      @@rarewhiteape not as epic as ace zero but ya a challenge on ace difficulty... Still think the ending on ace 4 and zero are the most epic 5 was not so mutch fun but not challenging.. 4 you had to run down a Barrel of a massive railgun ment to shoot astroids and in zero had to run a gauntlet of undergeound network to destroy multiple V2 rockets then fight pixy woth the Morgan and had to play chicken to shot out its engine air intake to defeat him. Taking out a massive war satellite the size of a city pice by pic is sadly not as fulfilling. And dont get me started on 7 what pissed me of is the first dlc aircraft cant fit underground *wtf* man!

    • @gracecalis5421
      @gracecalis5421 Před 4 lety +26

      @@demonlordotrt754 What you mean doesn't fit underground? Yeah the Raven has a ridiculous wingspan (tho the wyvern im sure is still bigger) but you can fly that thing just fine in the tunnels. Also come on... you don't "play chicken" with Pixy, you have an epic goddamn jousting match between two knights.

    • @blaze6400
      @blaze6400 Před 4 lety +9

      @@demonlordotrt754 the Raven can fit through the tunnel. It is a very close thing but it is possible. Also @grace calis the Raven is wider then the Wyvern with wings extended by a decent amount.

  • @TugaAvenger
    @TugaAvenger Před 4 lety +926

    Focus on my beloved AC and its music aside, I have to commend you on your presentaiton. I could not be any more of a layman in music and all the formal terms flew over my head, but the underlying concepts came across clearly regardless. That is a tough sell. Fantastic.

    • @TheJetnerd
      @TheJetnerd Před 4 lety +23

      You here? Jk, its an Ace Combat Video so...
      Glad to see you have Wifi at New Arrows Air Base.

    • @statemonster
      @statemonster Před 4 lety +2

      Tuga!!!!

    • @JudgeAnnibal
      @JudgeAnnibal Před 4 lety +6

      I could hear the Arsenal Bird's shields failing just from hearing his explanation on AC7's piece.

    • @kevis6310
      @kevis6310 Před 4 lety +3

      I couldn't have put it better myself. While I am by no means a musician, I can understand what I am hearing and then relate that back to what he said. This presentation was absolutely out of the park and has enlightened me to a whole other side of music: music theory.
      Like he said multiple times, I have heard these examples in music before. Now I can understand what it looks like on paper and how it works mechanically to make the feel-goods in my ears

  • @ryanmanuel8470
    @ryanmanuel8470 Před 4 lety +1899

    It is perfectly reasonable to play Ace Combat just for the music. Ace Combat 4's soundtrack is absolutely incredible.

    • @HoopyFroodood
      @HoopyFroodood Před 4 lety +61

      AC4 will always have my heart, nostalgia goggles may be involved, but it is a damn good game. That said, I absolutely think the story of 5 is better. The music? Kindof tough. I'd have to listen to the OST of both back to back to really make a call.

    • @Ikrit122
      @Ikrit122 Před 4 lety +11

      I loved 6's soundtrack more than 4's, mainly because I prefer orchestral to electronic. There are some really classic pieces in 4 though.

    • @HoopyFroodood
      @HoopyFroodood Před 4 lety +8

      @@Ikrit122 It's not even my favorite, but for some reason the one for the mission with all the harriers (the one in the mountains the second time Stonehenge is firing on you) always stuck with me.
      Again, it's the first Ace Combat I ever played so obviously it left a massive impression. The cathartic orchestral stuff with the choir in 5 and Zero really did illicit some powerful emotions though.

    • @HoopyFroodood
      @HoopyFroodood Před 4 lety +11

      @@Ikrit122 At the end of 5, hearing all your wingman telling you they have your back, and then hearing them shouting out "fox X!" or "maneuver Y!" at triple the frequency of the other missions is so powerful and really gets your blood pumping.
      I actually felt like part of the legend Razgriz!

    • @HoopyFroodood
      @HoopyFroodood Před 4 lety +1

      @PlainSimpleTailor Yeah man, that's the good shit.

  • @Suzurinn
    @Suzurinn Před 4 lety +436

    Fun fact about AC7's Daredevil track (the one he let play way longer then he normally lets things go):
    It was completely scrapped and remade, rushed last minute to fit the fights timing and events.
    And it's one of the best pieces in AC7, and one of my favorites in the series entirely. The people behind Ace Combat are amazing.

    • @AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange
      @AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange Před 4 lety +93

      TRPSnow I’m late, but the whole reason behind it being scrapped was because it didn’t give the composer goosebumps just from hearing it, and wasn’t good enough for him to consider art fitting for the climax of the story. People have said that the reason it’s called Daredevil is because of him doing one of the most unthinkable things and redoing and rushing through the main piece of the soundtrack just before it was released, like a true daredevil.
      You probably knew that, but I gotta make sure people know just how crazy Kobayashi is.

    • @Radiogirl1931
      @Radiogirl1931 Před 3 lety +27

      Pretty sure it's why they delayed it

    • @communistwookiee4727
      @communistwookiee4727 Před rokem +2

      I cry every time the vocals hit when that shield drops.

    • @Thesnakerox
      @Thesnakerox Před rokem +5

      @@AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange I remember reading a story about how apparently Kobayashi received the call that Daredevil was needed as the deadline to complete the soundtrack was rapidly approaching and everything else was already pretty much done, and he just nodded and said "Okay." No complaints, no hesitation, and he then proceeded to write one of, if not the best song in the game.

  • @KeeperOfTheSevenKeys.
    @KeeperOfTheSevenKeys. Před 4 lety +704

    Ace Combat's soundtrack is damn near unparallelled in gaming.

    • @jmana74
      @jmana74 Před 4 lety +13

      Halo.

    • @cendregaming3200
      @cendregaming3200 Před 4 lety +116

      Justin not even close, Halo doesn’t have the soaring melodies huge orchestral Latin scores
      Halo soundtrack is good and tribal but not even close toe Ace Combats quality

    • @lukasi.v4269
      @lukasi.v4269 Před 4 lety +68

      Halo OST is awesome but for the most part it's much more for the nostalgia and its importance for the games industry.
      The theme though.. gets me everytime!

    • @jabezteng9872
      @jabezteng9872 Před 4 lety +7

      Touhou

    • @cendregaming3200
      @cendregaming3200 Před 4 lety +9

      Lukas I.V that’s the main thing, nostalgia but it isn’t nearly as rhythmically interesting or asepic as Ace Combats pieces

  • @EAFSQ9
    @EAFSQ9 Před 4 lety +746

    Soundtrack list:
    0:04 - Briefing 2 - Ace Combat 5: Unsung War (Ace Combat 5: Squadron Leader in EU)
    0:59 - Briefing 1 - Ace Combat 5: Unsung War
    2:26 - Liberation of Gracemeria - Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
    5:28 - Zero - Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War
    8:39 - First Flight - Ace Combat 5: Unsung War
    10:33 - Daredevil - Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown
    12:41 - Blockade - Ace Combat 4: Shattered Skies (Ace Combat 4: Distant Thunder in EU)

    • @anvutrong6870
      @anvutrong6870 Před 4 lety +15

      Hero!

    • @lsuperior
      @lsuperior Před 4 lety +15

      first flight has always been my favorite

    • @shuraamano
      @shuraamano Před 4 lety +6

      Zero

    • @OddOtter707
      @OddOtter707 Před 4 lety +9

      Liberation of Gracemaria hits home for me.

    • @OOZ662
      @OOZ662 Před 4 lety +12

      A note that First Flight is an arrangement of Blockade.

  • @StGSteve
    @StGSteve Před 4 lety +789

    You won't believe this Jean-Louis! All of them have cross rhythm insignias!

    • @OOZ662
      @OOZ662 Před 4 lety +46

      You're my hero for today. Just please don't come home with me.

    • @Valleyraven007
      @Valleyraven007 Před 4 lety +13

      Best comment, you win

    • @Valleyraven007
      @Valleyraven007 Před 4 lety +61

      Gene get a grip! You've got to take over conducting!

    • @cypronis3294
      @cypronis3294 Před 4 lety +37

      Sweep them from our symphony

    • @kabob0077
      @kabob0077 Před 4 lety +9

      *Plays Prelude*

  • @Duck360Gaming
    @Duck360Gaming Před 4 lety +466

    Ever since i was 18 i listen to ace combat in my car, am 33 now still awesome thats why i dont want it to die, other games be like 3 songs and done just bcuz its a 10/10 game but AC is 7/10 so nobody buys it.... They dont know that they are missing bout 50 great songs from AC that never dies

    • @kasmidjan
      @kasmidjan Před 3 lety +26

      agree lot of gamer not giving ACE COMBAT love that it deserve...

    • @kasmidjan
      @kasmidjan Před 3 lety +10

      @Rashad Harris Agreed bro... Music especially Ace Combat Soundtrack Orchestra is at another level... its carry player/pilot emotion to the game.... and for your passion in orchestra.... Don't Stop Brother.... bring life and joy to this world

    • @uberschnilthegreat22
      @uberschnilthegreat22 Před 3 lety +3

      Ace Combat 7 has certainly brought a fresh taste of gaming into my life, I'm definitely gonna hunt down the other legacy games like 4, 5, and Zero since I have a PS2.

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 Před 3 lety +2

      27 here. Been listening since i was 12.
      Some of the best music in video games ever!

    • @christiaan12321
      @christiaan12321 Před 3 lety +2

      And that's why I don't play the games but have entire playlists of the OST

  • @johnhammond7202
    @johnhammond7202 Před 4 lety +306

    Me: Ace Combat's music is good
    8-bit Music Theory: Ace Combat's music is SCIENTIFICALLY BRILLIANT!

  • @iExploder
    @iExploder Před 3 lety +73

    "There are musicians like you in every generation, and I've felled them all."
    - Mihaly A. Shilage

  • @OkonkwoPlaysBass
    @OkonkwoPlaysBass Před 4 lety +503

    Thank you so much for taking on my patreon suggestion! AC's soundtrack is incredible and I'm glad you're helping it gain some more recognition! Nice touch adding some of my other suggestions to the beginning and end of the vid. Briefing 2 and Blockade are incredible tracks too!
    Also you didn't realize it, but Aug 19, 2019 is a huge day in AC7 history as the Stonehenge Defensive occured.

    • @jordananderson2728
      @jordananderson2728 Před 4 lety +40

      Thank you for making this suggestion! This series was my childhood starting with AC4, and I've never been able to get enough of the games or the music. Hearing just what makes it so great is an absolute treat.

    • @OkonkwoPlaysBass
      @OkonkwoPlaysBass Před 4 lety +30

      @@jordananderson2728 maybe a follow up on AC4 tracks is needed ;). I suggested Agnus Dei. Glad many key tracks made it into the vid though!

    • @jordananderson2728
      @jordananderson2728 Před 4 lety +9

      @@OkonkwoPlaysBass I would love to hear an analysis on that, or The Unsung War - probably one of my all-time favourite pieces.

    • @CrazyBader
      @CrazyBader Před 4 lety +7

      you're our new hero

    • @Randomkloud
      @Randomkloud Před 4 lety +3

      Near the border is my favourite track from any ac game

  • @sethcunningham2138
    @sethcunningham2138 Před 4 lety +290

    I feel like you could do a 2 hour video on the music of Ace Combat. You’ve literally just scratched the surface.

    • @221b
      @221b Před 4 lety +21

      @Ryan628jpn In AC7 you can scratch the surface and still be in the air, albeit with 99% damage.

    • @Syneios
      @Syneios Před 4 lety +6

      ​@221b I always considered ground impact death and restarted.. I didn't intend to continue and catch a stray bullet ending my mission.
      Thought it was odd they made that a feature above Easy difficulty.. I fully expect to be at 50% from a strafe run and dead from a single missile on Ace.

    • @AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange
      @AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange Před 4 lety +3

      Syneios Oh dear god I could not imagine the AA dealing 13 per hit. Are you trying to give me PTSD from my alternate universe self?

    • @ankokunokayoubi
      @ankokunokayoubi Před 2 lety +1

      Must admit that Ace Combat since 04 has great soundtracks

  • @SOLO-qu2pe
    @SOLO-qu2pe Před 4 lety +117

    "So, Have you find rhythm to drive music yet? Buddy."

    • @daniyarsadykov3385
      @daniyarsadykov3385 Před 4 lety +4

      i can imagine Kono walking into the studio and saying those words to Keiki

  • @alexmercer2743
    @alexmercer2743 Před 4 lety +238

    He talked about "Zero"! I think this may be the best boss song in video games period.

    • @TheXr4tz
      @TheXr4tz Před 4 lety +10

      Agree.

    • @Daemonhost
      @Daemonhost Před 4 lety +18

      And best game in the series.

    • @its-amemegatron.9521
      @its-amemegatron.9521 Před 4 lety +33

      I thought it was in the Final from Bowser's inside story.
      Then I played AC0.

    • @furinick
      @furinick Před 4 lety +5

      I'd even put it over megalovania

    • @onestar8796
      @onestar8796 Před 4 lety +2

      Who know, the Last boss is ex wingman
      Intense of duel tho

  • @linkfreak911
    @linkfreak911 Před 4 lety +600

    The real soundtrack to AC6 is [Missle lock]
    MEEP MEEP MEEP MEEP MEEP MEEP MEEP MEEP MEEP MEEP

    • @OkonkwoPlaysBass
      @OkonkwoPlaysBass Před 4 lety +52

      Or AC7 mission 19 on Ace

    • @flashtirade
      @flashtirade Před 4 lety +15

      The WMD mission on Ace except you fight all the pursuers instead of trying to run for the border

    • @IntrusiveThot420
      @IntrusiveThot420 Před 4 lety +2

      flashtirade OR the Ace of Aces Aigaion mission.

    • @felipeotavio3971
      @felipeotavio3971 Před 4 lety +6

      Idk why but for me I can't imagine anny ac song without this sound anymore, I think it adds more to to the track

    • @aviationdude9546
      @aviationdude9546 Před 4 lety

      OkonkwoPlaysBass that was hell for me

  • @unicron004
    @unicron004 Před 4 lety +392

    WHAT
    I wasn't expecting this
    Thank you for releasing a music theory video and recognizing Ace Combat. I always saw Ace Combat as something unrecognized in the popular media. I love your channel and I love this game franchise. Thank you

    • @aidanpysher2764
      @aidanpysher2764 Před 4 lety +2

      Ace Combat is a perfect representation of quality > quantity.

  • @catsfrommars
    @catsfrommars Před 4 lety +1282

    How it feels to be an Ace Combat fan:
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    "THERE ARE DOZENS OF US!"

    • @LockCard
      @LockCard Před 4 lety +33

      1000's now with the new ace combat installment.

    • @juliahenriques210
      @juliahenriques210 Před 4 lety +122

      We're out there, but we only come out when the world witnesses a great change.

    • @christopherknorr2895
      @christopherknorr2895 Před 4 lety +32

      @@juliahenriques210 A demon from the northern sea...

    • @GranadaFelish
      @GranadaFelish Před 4 lety +15

      It's the best series I've ever played and I played lots of em, I don't know people don't know about it

    • @KiLLkInGLiOn
      @KiLLkInGLiOn Před 4 lety +21

      I considered myself an AC fan when I woke up and hear missile warnings.

  • @fokjohnpainkiller
    @fokjohnpainkiller Před 4 lety +157

    "That's how you build a tune!"
    >Expecting the video to end
    >Throws Blockade going balls deep into one of the best tunes of Ace Combat right at the end
    No chill, 10/10 video, Ace combat is love, it is life!

  • @conorreedR2C
    @conorreedR2C Před 4 lety +682

    That Sly Cooper/Katy Perry/Flame meme is what I needed today, thank you

  • @loganbarclay5075
    @loganbarclay5075 Před 4 lety +223

    12:04 I want an entire damn 8 bit-music theory thesis on that Edim7, oof. This video was sick.

    • @MisterAppleEsq
      @MisterAppleEsq Před 4 lety +30

      I love it, you totally think the Cm is gonna go straight to F, but nope, Edim7 comes in to build up the tension to F even more, and then the F doesn't even feel quite right because of the third in the bass, which makes you want to hear a Bb WHICH YOU DON'T GET because of that sneaky DM coming in, it's brilliant harmonic progression.

    • @loganbarclay5075
      @loganbarclay5075 Před 4 lety +9

      @@MisterAppleEsq I think what really gets me about it is the fact that it lasts for 2 bars, and most of the other chords in the progression were like 1 bar. Staying on a dim7 chord for that long is ballsy and I love it.

    • @OkonkwoPlaysBass
      @OkonkwoPlaysBass Před 4 lety +7

      The emojis are the technical term for how Edim7s feel in this context?

    • @wyattreed4024
      @wyattreed4024 Před 4 lety +5

      @@OkonkwoPlaysBass I'd use spongegar, personally. You're on the chord that most wants to resolve to F, but instead you go to a chord that wants to resolve to F even more. Great use of the diminished chord to delay release of tension.

    • @cac_deadlyrang
      @cac_deadlyrang Před 4 lety

      Hehehe, 118 Likes.

  • @badasstasticusbadass4908
    @badasstasticusbadass4908 Před 4 lety +61

    I legitimaly shed a tear went i played mission 19 Daredevil on AC7... damn, it matchs went the shields of the Arsenal bird wears down, Keiki Kobayashi is a beast.

    • @annamills7560
      @annamills7560 Před 3 lety +3

      Dude. My heart started beating so fast. It was so emotional and epic! I just love that mission so much. He is an absolute beast at composing this music

  • @RaviVemula2
    @RaviVemula2 Před 4 lety +104

    At this point, probably going to get lost in the comments, but one other part of Daredevil from AC7 that I found amazing regarding rhythm was the lead in to the climax section of the song, when all of the percussion and pads drop out, the strings do their build up, and then dead silence for a moment. The solo female vocal that leads into the climax does a wonderful syncopation just adds *that* little bit of extra tension to give so much more oomph when the rest of the arrangement kicks in a measure later!
    That and the way it fits into the actual mission with the shield on the arsenal bird permanently dropping made this moment in AC7 truly epic

    • @annamills7560
      @annamills7560 Před 3 lety +5

      Yes. Especially when it times perfectly with the Arsenal Birds shields going down

    • @memesrdreams4854
      @memesrdreams4854 Před 2 lety +5

      Daredevil alone and Daredevil in context is like night and day

    • @boeing747-8
      @boeing747-8 Před rokem +1

      It feels appropriate to lock on with my 8AAMs and wait until the shield drops. It just feels *right.*

  • @fnors2
    @fnors2 Před 4 lety +190

    I wasn't aware of Ace Combat or it's music... But damn if that ain't some epic stuff right there! Music like that really gets your blood pumping.
    I can imagine the hype you get when you start a mission and a track like that starts. Glorious.

    • @OkonkwoPlaysBass
      @OkonkwoPlaysBass Před 4 lety +58

      The context in the missions take them to whole other levels. With the exception of "First Flight", the rest occur in the endgame or major turning points in the stories.

    • @karameldanzen
      @karameldanzen Před 4 lety +27

      AC7 came out earlier this year for PC/XBone/PS4, you should pick it up. It's really fun.

    • @cypronis3294
      @cypronis3294 Před 4 lety +19

      Checkout Archangel, the track from AC7 my personal favorite. AC4 for the PS2 is a good starting point if you want to play them

    • @AndresGrimace
      @AndresGrimace Před 4 lety +6

      Ace Combat games have awesome music.

    • @AxisCorpsRep
      @AxisCorpsRep Před 4 lety +17

      Oooohohoho m8 if you want a perfectly timed scene with music. Check ace combat 7's mission 19 when the second part starts. I wont give spoilers. But you'll see whem it happens

  • @pedrogomezid
    @pedrogomezid Před 4 lety +402

    YES YOU TALKED ABOUT ZERO

  • @JudgeDillon
    @JudgeDillon Před 4 lety +69

    Ace Combat Zero has beautiful flamenco guitar in tracks like: "Zero, and Epilogue" I love the track "magic spear" from Ace Combat 7

    • @bigballzmcdrawz2921
      @bigballzmcdrawz2921 Před 4 lety +2

      Three of a kind from AC7 really stands out to me.

    • @yoned3837
      @yoned3837 Před 4 lety +3

      Plague Doktor Magic Spear is amazing. It’s still my favorite AC song besides Blockade, although all the soundtrack is equally as amazing.

    • @__vx3
      @__vx3 Před 4 lety +5

      The Epilogue in AC:Z has got to be my favorite song in the series, it's just so beautiful.

  • @amazinblasian117
    @amazinblasian117 Před 4 lety +53

    Ace Combat is such an underrated series, and it's soundtracks are always spectacular. Thank you so much for giving them more of the recognition they deserve!

  • @TheKeeperofChaos
    @TheKeeperofChaos Před 4 lety +335

    “Those who survive a long time [[making CZcams videos]] start to think they’re invincible...”
    “...I bet you do too, buddy.”

    • @Valleyraven007
      @Valleyraven007 Před 4 lety +21

      It's time.

    • @bigballzmcdrawz2921
      @bigballzmcdrawz2921 Před 4 lety +14

      There's no mercy in war, people live and people die, that's all there is to it.

    • @null5909
      @null5909 Před 4 lety +7

      That’s what v-2 is for

    • @S0m3BlaCkGUY
      @S0m3BlaCkGUY Před 4 lety +5

      You and I are opposite sides of the same coin.

    • @lukasi.v4269
      @lukasi.v4269 Před 4 lety +10

      When we face each other, we can finally see our true selves. There may be a resemblance, but we never face the same direction.

  • @GUIM1797
    @GUIM1797 Před 4 lety +27

    4:00 - C∆9(#11,b9) ... "I have no idea what's happening."
    Top shelf editing.

  • @spiritmuse
    @spiritmuse Před 4 lety +15

    Listening to all this it's finally becoming clear to me what exactly it is that makes Ace Combat music sound so unique and recognisable to me. It's all these intricate rhythms, this driving beat, with on top of it these long, soaring notes, usually either horns or choir. I love it so much.

  • @pixel_6493
    @pixel_6493 Před 4 lety +45

    nobody:
    plane game sound tracks: *epic synth solo*

    • @OOZ662
      @OOZ662 Před 4 lety +1

      You want some oomphy solo, check out Comona from Ace Combat 4. I get a feeling someone just wanted to assblast some guitar like they did back in Ace Combat 2 for one mission, so they did. Note the song plays over a mission that's essentially a massive airforce-v-airforce dogfight over a tiny island spaceport to give it some context.

  • @OMystkiO
    @OMystkiO Před 4 lety +130

    ace combat AND 8bitmuscitheory? OMG mu heart

  • @DensetsuVII
    @DensetsuVII Před 4 lety +30

    I've been WAITING for this! Ace Combat may be my favorite soundtrack of all time - absolutely classic and criminally unknown in the larger gaming sphere.

  • @AMTRAX
    @AMTRAX Před 4 lety +21

    Thank you for the Ace Combat love!! I did some voice over for the most recent Ace Combat, and I was very taken aback by how lovely the music is. My character is part of Sol Squadron, and their theme never fails to pump me up.
    Great analysis!! Cheers!

    • @zealot246
      @zealot246 Před 4 lety +2

      I love how archange and sol squadron have the exact same beginning but then split very hard into two different moods

    • @annamills7560
      @annamills7560 Před 3 lety +1

      If I may ask. Which character is yours?

    • @AMTRAX
      @AMTRAX Před 3 lety +3

      @@annamills7560 Wit

    • @annamills7560
      @annamills7560 Před 3 lety +1

      @@AMTRAX Jeez!! Sol 2!

    • @AMTRAX
      @AMTRAX Před 3 lety +3

      @@annamills7560 yep!

  • @jonnyrawket8158
    @jonnyrawket8158 Před 4 lety +12

    Ace Combat 7’s choir sections are probably my favorite parts of the game, the transcription at 11:47 is just an example of AC games at their best

  • @PunishedV
    @PunishedV Před 4 lety +64

    Zero is one of the best pieces of music in video game history.

  • @MFMegaZeroX7
    @MFMegaZeroX7 Před 4 lety +26

    I'm super happy to see this! Ace Combat soundtracks are super underrated. They build up an epic feeling like no other.

  • @eskimoe187
    @eskimoe187 Před 4 lety +18

    oh my god i never expected you to make an ace combat video good shit dude

  • @jacobszymczak9323
    @jacobszymczak9323 Před 4 lety +15

    One of the things I find most impressive with Ace Combats soundtrack is how good it is over time. Like Ace combat 4, 5, Zero, 6, and 7 all have extraordinarily good complete soundtracks for the entire game and each are almost totally different from each game, like different style or focus. That is the sign of a truly great composer and series that it can be that consistently good without basically "repeating the magic" of the previous soundtrack

    • @mistermcdingus1728
      @mistermcdingus1728 Před rokem

      Kobayashi’s style is a amalgamation of old and new styles. Synth is used complimentary to the strings, horns and vice versa. It’s a style that I’m surprised isn’t used more often.

  • @gabrielalvarado5347
    @gabrielalvarado5347 Před 4 lety +6

    Oh my god... Words can't explain the incredible feeling it is, after many replays, understanding each time a little bit more of the composition. Your explanations are simply amazing and clear, appealing to the well trained and even the untrained ear. Damn this feels amazing

  • @isaiahdavis9486
    @isaiahdavis9486 Před 4 lety +9

    I like it when bands such as Vulfpeck have multiple guys using one small part a what would be put together one whole drum set. You got one guy jamming with the hi-hat and another on the bass drum and snare. It makes it so that you can have one idea going on and layer it. I didn’t think about the layering idea until this video, but it gives me even more appreciation. A good example of this is in the song “Dean Town”.

    • @TornaitSuperBird
      @TornaitSuperBird Před 4 lety

      Rods’ Vidjas YES, i was hoping someone would bring up Vulfpeck!

  • @G_Travel99
    @G_Travel99 Před 2 lety +4

    Friend: Yo thats some powerfull music, from what game it is? A rpg or something?
    Me: Plane game

  • @vagrant7512
    @vagrant7512 Před 4 lety +15

    I wouldn't usually write a sappy comment like this, but Ace Combat Zero is a game that meant and still means a lot to me. Thanks for covering this topic.

  • @Bobbias
    @Bobbias Před 4 lety +15

    I heard Zero recently, and I wasn't familiar with those soundtracks before either but man are they good. I was kinda surprised to see that shortly after I discovered them, you suddenly put up a video on them.

    • @eugenlovin6788
      @eugenlovin6788 Před 4 lety

      Look for archangle,sol squadron,daredevil for AC 7

    • @Bobbias
      @Bobbias Před 4 lety

      @@eugenlovin6788 will do. I always appreciate suggestions on stuff like that.

  • @fake._
    @fake._ Před 4 lety +12

    Once you get familar with the controls and learn more air maneuvers and then hearing the music in the background, it's one of the best gaming moments.

  • @zackr.4053
    @zackr.4053 Před 4 lety +34

    Oh man, I wish he talked about Ace Combat X 's soundtrack.

    • @TugaAvenger
      @TugaAvenger Před 4 lety +18

      I can understand why. Not because it's not great (it's awesome!), but because it's conceptually and fundamentally different from the rest of the series, with almost no orchestral elements, and thus simply did not fit into the overarching theme he's analyzing here.
      That, and the Patreon request didn't mention it.

    • @OkonkwoPlaysBass
      @OkonkwoPlaysBass Před 4 lety +3

      @@TugaAvenger I had to hit holy trinity, 6 and 7 given much more of an audience for those. X is just too narrow for this channel for a request of it to have any hope of it being made.

    • @Malick-ix9io
      @Malick-ix9io Před 4 lety

      He forgot "Grabacr" from AC5.

    • @OkonkwoPlaysBass
      @OkonkwoPlaysBass Před 4 lety

      @@Malick-ix9io can't have them all. Still happy most major tracks were mentionedm

    • @gracecalis5421
      @gracecalis5421 Před 4 lety

      Ace Combat franchise in general has a lot of masterpieces but for some reason "End of Deception I & II" always stuck to me. Mostly because Fenrir is the most terrifying fucking enemy I've ever faced in AC

  • @anthonygrande6300
    @anthonygrande6300 Před 4 lety +5

    Recognition of Ace Combat’s AMAZING soundtracks aside, I thought it was really cool how you were able to break the music down into a science, showing what makes the songs so unique and fun to listen to. While I’m no expert on music, and I don’t understand most of the terms used, it was interesting to see how the beats come together to make amazing rhythms in the soundtrack. Awesome job on the video, and thank you for giving this highly underrated soundtrack some spotlight!

  • @burakeren
    @burakeren Před 4 lety +54

    At 4:02 when stanky chord voicing comes up, "I have no idea what's happening". Thats most of the time how i feel when i watch music theory videos.

    • @LacedWithOreos
      @LacedWithOreos Před 4 lety +4

      That's okay my dude. Just like ASMR, there are certain chords than give us that lil 'tickle'.

  • @Kingjay814
    @Kingjay814 Před 4 lety +13

    Holy Ace Combat is one of my all time favorite franchises ever. Thank you for showing it some love.
    I just have one question that went unanswered. How does the missile lock on alert fit into these songs?

  • @Hiilihankomies
    @Hiilihankomies Před 4 lety +15

    I have no idea about what you said but I still have tears in my eyes because Ace Combat's music is so good.

  • @juliahenriques210
    @juliahenriques210 Před 4 lety +4

    Having Ace Combat as one of my all time favourite soundtracks, this was quite a treat. Now can't wait for you to tackle Aion's soundtrack. It surely deserves it's whole X-parts series.

  • @Yee-Haw_Bird
    @Yee-Haw_Bird Před 4 lety +17

    Seeing this pop up in reccomendations almost brought a tear to my eye. Still need to play AC7

    • @TugaAvenger
      @TugaAvenger Před 4 lety +7

      By all means do, it's a phenomenal game and a love letter to all that made AC great.

    • @Yee-Haw_Bird
      @Yee-Haw_Bird Před 4 lety

      @@TugaAvenger Oh i'm sure but playing it would be bittersweet at best due to shit that's happened recently. Like I've wanted to be a pilot for a long time now, all because of this series, but Its slim chances I wont be medically disqualified to fly.

    • @ryanpayne9119
      @ryanpayne9119 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Yee-Haw_Bird Same here.
      But do still go in for your medical. If you're in the U.S., even if you do fail your third class medical (which does not expire anymore, see "drivers license medical certificate," ) you still have some chance at getting a special issuance.

    • @flyboy6392
      @flyboy6392 Před 4 lety

      @@Yee-Haw_Bird there's also the option of going for your sport pilot if you live in the states

  • @jon3s115
    @jon3s115 Před 4 lety +5

    AC5 I have fantastic memories.
    I'm a Navy Brat, my dad served in the navy for 26 years as a aviation mechanic, so he has a knack for anything to do with fighter jets, helicopters, etc... back when Ps2 was the thing, I remember him bringing AC5 home and he was just consistently playing it over and over enjoying it. And my 7 year old self would watch with eyes glued on the screen and the music being ENGRAVED into my mind... god the music... so amazing.
    Because of that, to this day, AC5 will ALWAYS be my favorite in the series- music, gameplay, and especially the friggin music!

    • @anzio3827
      @anzio3827 Před 4 lety +1

      I hope you got Ace Combat 7 and have become a fan of the franchise now.

    • @ankokunokayoubi
      @ankokunokayoubi Před 2 lety +1

      Same here! I played AC5 during Christmas holiday out of boredom and it ended up giving me the best of my gaming nostalgia (along with Resident Evil of course!).
      "The Journey Home" and "The Unsung War" really kick!

  • @TheMilhouseExperience
    @TheMilhouseExperience Před 4 lety +8

    It’s nice to see Ace Combat’s music get a highlight. It’s damn good.
    I’m surprised though that you don’t have a Fire Emblem video on your channel. What they’ve done musically is nothing short of grand.

  • @lobostroke4387
    @lobostroke4387 Před 4 lety +33

    I need to play Ace Combat just because of the music.

    • @FPV-wi8fw
      @FPV-wi8fw Před 4 lety +12

      Go and get an old PS2 and the holy trilogy of ace combat 4, 5 and zero.

    • @SaltyGamer777
      @SaltyGamer777 Před 4 lety +7

      Then get a ps4 and get Ace Combat 7.

    • @lobostroke4387
      @lobostroke4387 Před 4 lety +4

      @@SaltyGamer777 I just may have to get I believe it's on sale this week

    • @SaltyGamer777
      @SaltyGamer777 Před 4 lety +3

      @@lobostroke4387 Perfect

    • @ToanTran-vz2pw
      @ToanTran-vz2pw Před 4 lety +4

      you all forgot the AC6 from XB360. it got some badass soundtrack too although the story was bad

  • @L4Vo5
    @L4Vo5 Před 4 lety +20

    I've only listened to a few Ace Combat songs (after absolutely falling in love with Megalith Agnus Dei) but I think they're really cool. It's also always nice when these videos deal with a soundtrack I've actually heard before xP

    • @bigdoggo5827
      @bigdoggo5827 Před 4 lety +1

      Try playing the holy trinity (PS2 Ace Combat games) or just look up Ace Combat 7. They are absolutely good games

    • @L4Vo5
      @L4Vo5 Před 4 lety +1

      @@bigdoggo5827 Hmm, I see that 7 is on Steam, meaning I can play it on PC... I might give it a go!

    • @austingarcia2480
      @austingarcia2480 Před 4 lety +1

      @@L4Vo5 If you can, try to play the PS2 games :) they are arguably the best of the series and a lot of fun. Cheesy, but fun stories and amazing music that makes playing feel all the better

  • @NeoTrggrTheGammer
    @NeoTrggrTheGammer Před 4 lety +6

    so happy seeing you break down Ace Combat's amazing soundtrack, a fantastic game series with some of my favorite 'final boss' themes

  • @solidsnake2112
    @solidsnake2112 Před 4 lety +3

    It legit gets your heart racing. It's a fact that music does so, this changes the way you play naturally the same way as having music while driving does. I love the visual of the notes you do.

  • @nickwaller8836
    @nickwaller8836 Před 4 lety +17

    Bruh, could we get an acknowledgement for "Archange" in AC:7 Skies Unknown?

    • @annamills7560
      @annamills7560 Před 3 lety

      Yes!!!! Milhay's theme!!! That and sol squadrons theme

  • @jasper_saberwolf
    @jasper_saberwolf Před 4 lety +3

    This was one of the most fascinating things I’ve seen on CZcams in a long time! I’m a huge ace combat fan and always adored the soundtracks...you totally did them a lot of justice and broke them down to music theory in a way that let me appreciate them in ways I never thought about! Thank you!

  • @brandondye7774
    @brandondye7774 Před 4 lety +25

    Could we get a complete breakdown of The Liberation if Gracemeria?

  • @gregbagel791
    @gregbagel791 Před 4 lety +2

    Absolutely love this, always a huge fan of ac especially for the music, everytime you introduced a new rhythm i knew excatly what song you were going to mention, the music is so distinct and I'm happy you helped me understand it more!

  • @j.brandonpaine6365
    @j.brandonpaine6365 Před 4 lety

    I LOVE hearing your passion for this come through. This is why I watch your channel. Great video!

  • @viniciusmaidana2159
    @viniciusmaidana2159 Před 4 lety +76

    The soundtrack of this whole franchise is underrated as hell if you ask me...

    • @Roslynguy
      @Roslynguy Před 4 lety +3

      Without a doubt

    • @a.p.6580
      @a.p.6580 Před 4 lety +6

      Poor Ace Combat, overshadowed by Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid. It sucks.

    • @Oclur
      @Oclur Před 4 lety +3

      @@a.p.6580 I can understand why though. They're also pretty good and their franchises are more popular

    • @joshnoritake3167
      @joshnoritake3167 Před rokem +1

      Airplane combat is not for everyone sadly, also it’s pretty challenging for the journalists who review most games.

    • @Viper-ft3tk
      @Viper-ft3tk Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@a.p.6580Honestly, Ace Combat does what Metal Gear does, but Ace Combat does it so much better.

  • @iota-09
    @iota-09 Před 4 lety +28

    Ok... But have you heard 444? A mother-f'in masterpiece.

  • @daryljamaat4266
    @daryljamaat4266 Před 4 lety

    I love where you are taking your channel at the moment!

  • @GoodGuyPlayer2
    @GoodGuyPlayer2 Před 4 lety +3

    Thank you (and that Patreon dude) for giving this game's OST the recognition it so rightfully deserved! I'm glad to finally understand why it was so addicting! Amazing series.

  • @7thangelad586
    @7thangelad586 Před 4 lety +12

    Jets just screamed by overhead during this video.
    Nice planning.

  • @YEdwardP
    @YEdwardP Před 4 lety +11

    I find this fascinating.
    I enjoy "Liberation of Gracemaria," but that build-up always seemed more interesting than its horns' melody was worth. The melody was this slow tune made of sustained whole notes, yet somehow felt incredibly exciting and engaging. I honestly hadn't thought of looking at the rhythm of the strings.
    Honestly, I appreciate this piece even more now because the music reflects the pilot's situation. The flight is (for the moment) stable and level, like the double whole note melody, but inside below the surface, the pilot is feeling his own heart pounding with excitement. Brilliant.

    • @toransilverman
      @toransilverman Před 4 lety +1

      Liberation of Gracemeria, I feel was designed so that the build up is meant for the early objectives and to get you pumped for the rest of the battle. I know that by the time Liberation reached the second half the song I'd have already finished my first objective and already well into my second objective when it hit which usually ended up with me over the heart of Gracemeria.

    • @OkonkwoPlaysBass
      @OkonkwoPlaysBass Před 4 lety

      Yeah my original request was regarding how the build up of tension and release worked in the song. See the screen snip at the end. Still a great vid!

  • @enders-builds
    @enders-builds Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you to both 8 bit music theory and the patron for requesting this. I have been waiting for an analysis of ace combat's soundtracks since 2004. There is truly moving music in this niche yet incredible series and I am glad to see it being appreciated.

  • @jeffreywong2905
    @jeffreywong2905 Před 4 lety +33

    11:55 "This Dm Fakeout Is Sick" is the best musical notation I've seen. Why aren't you writing the scores?

  • @garudalead
    @garudalead Před 4 lety +17

    So in laymans terms Ace Combats OST is F*****g amazing (i have played and beat every ace combat game except the air combat)

  • @watermylon6495
    @watermylon6495 Před 4 lety +6

    Ace Combat 5 is my favorite game of all time. Thank you so much for making a video for me to completely nerd out about!

    • @AndresGrimace
      @AndresGrimace Před 4 lety

      It's up there for me too. Metal Gear Solid 3, Majora's Mask and Ace Combat 5 are my three favorites.

  • @Valleyraven007
    @Valleyraven007 Před 4 lety +2

    YES! I was hoping you would do this, one of the best group of soundtracks for a series ever

  • @colesherrill7472
    @colesherrill7472 Před 4 lety

    thank you so much for covering this series and its amazing music. amazing video, subbing for sure.

  • @PiercingSight
    @PiercingSight Před 4 lety +3

    You've explained rhythm better than any teacher or music theory youtuber I've ever learned from. Thank you for that! I'll definitely be using this new knowledge in the future!

  • @ezzatmansor7713
    @ezzatmansor7713 Před 4 lety +76

    Area B7R: * "ZERO" starts playing *
    Random Pilots passing through B7R: Hehe, I'm in danger!
    *Cipher is watching.*

    • @annamills7560
      @annamills7560 Před 3 lety +1

      All pilots when they here Three Strikes is in the air:
      Haha, I'm in danger!

    • @bluecaptainIT
      @bluecaptainIT Před 3 lety +2

      "They all have Ribbon Insignias!"

    • @insertcolorherehawk3761
      @insertcolorherehawk3761 Před 3 lety +1

      That would be *Contact*

    • @bluecaptainIT
      @bluecaptainIT Před 3 lety

      @@insertcolorherehawk3761 no wait, he might be referring to SP mission. You're both right!

  • @TheVekuRommel
    @TheVekuRommel Před 4 lety

    Was recommended this by a friend as a long time Ace Combat fan and you did not disappoint. Now I know why I enjoy these tracks so much. :)

  • @i8tweak
    @i8tweak Před 4 lety

    I love all of your groove videos so much! It's the often neglected half of music. Thanks

  • @Truex007
    @Truex007 Před 4 lety +3

    I love Ace Combat. Played this series all the way back in Ace Combat 3: Electrosphere.
    Zero is probably not just one of my favorite AC tracks, but one of my favorite tracks of all time, easily in the top 5. I find it interesting how the tracks get more frantic and more complex the further into the game you get, and how the music mirrors the action and stages of a fight on screen. It's not just good beats, it's beats that correspond to the game itself. Which is fantastic game design.
    Thanks for the video! It was AWESOME.

  • @zoneofendless.
    @zoneofendless. Před 4 lety +6

    Ace Combat music is the greatest music of all time. I have been a long time Ace Combat fan and I am glad to see an AC music piece analyzed!

  • @zydeco2024
    @zydeco2024 Před 4 lety

    Absolutely your best video! Thanks so much for spotlighting the excellent music of AC!

  • @YodamanOb704
    @YodamanOb704 Před 4 lety +1

    You're not gonna believe this, Jean-Louis. 8-bit Muisc Theory reviewed Ace Combat Music!
    This didn't just turn my rough day around, this made my week!!! I'm so happy that you were able to take such an amazing, depth analysis of my favorite game series music. I can only hope one day you'll return to Ace Combat the cover more of the amazing tracks and themes present in the series, but for now I'm extremely content. I was just a man when 8-bit music theory reviewed ace combat... But I remember that made my week... And in turn how I learned to greater appreciate musical art...

  • @joshuaroa8503
    @joshuaroa8503 Před 4 lety +3

    Thanks for talking about this gem of a series. Ace Combat 3 also has some great songs, but since its the future, the ost is all cool electronic beats and rhythms.

  • @megablacknerd
    @megablacknerd Před 4 lety +6

    How the hell did you know that I was looking for the answer to my own beats...literally yesterday wow

  • @mementomori8930
    @mementomori8930 Před 4 lety

    Man, this channel is lit. Most of music theory channel i found doesn’t really touch much about rhythm, and how it related to the composition. Finding this channel really completes the missing parts that I’m looking for. Even though you only do video games musics, you still teach more than other music theory channel I’ve been. Keep up the good work!

  • @Chadling676
    @Chadling676 Před 4 lety

    You played and went over all my favorite songs

  • @slinkiesforsale309
    @slinkiesforsale309 Před 4 lety +4

    I don't know how popular some of the tracks are in AC7, but I loved Archange, it made it feel like such a heart-pounding showdown against a truly unstoppable foe. I need to get around to purchasing the games I haven't played, namely Zero and 4 sadly.

  • @XerosXIII
    @XerosXIII Před 4 lety +7

    How Rhythm Drives The Music Of Ace Combat?
    Me: Yes.

  • @bryanos118
    @bryanos118 Před 4 lety

    Wow, nice video! Amazing how each track has a lot going on, especially in Ace Combat.

  • @meranglemtur9578
    @meranglemtur9578 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for that wonderful explanation. Keiki Kobayashi is amazing and you did an amazing job explaining the beat and rythym of it all

  • @keatonramey2274
    @keatonramey2274 Před 4 lety +3

    So much here its insane. This guy is such a master

  • @YingwuUsagiri
    @YingwuUsagiri Před 4 lety +64

    Holy hell a video on one of my favourite series I've been a fan of since the first game came out that most people glanced over (until AC7 got quite a big following) *edit* Also many of my favourite OSTs where it's not just rhythmic interest but also phenomenal scripting like 8-bit explained in the Kid Icarus video. The best example of this is the briefing before the final mission in AC7 (czcams.com/video/Fq0EXCI2A58/video.html) where the song starts off calm taking a sorrowful dive when your AWACS explains that if you lose everything will go to absolute shit for the future, bit later when the briefing transitions into the hangar section (which is normally a different song!) it gains a kickass drum section making you feel so immersed and transforming the exact same melody that was first perceived as despair and adversity into something hopeful and empowering.

  • @tylerm.3003
    @tylerm.3003 Před 4 lety

    This was awesome man! It's so great to see a franchise that's brought me so much enjoyment and inspiration get some well-deserved recognition. Thank you so much for this.

  • @every116
    @every116 Před 4 lety

    I've been waiting for this for years. I never thought it would happen, but I'm glad you took a look at this series' music. Thank you.