What are you allowed to wear in Death Metal? feat. Tomb Mold
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- čas přidán 20. 09. 2023
- I usually start my day by checking the newsfeed on my phone, which is loaded up with stories from Metal Sucks, Loudwire, Guitar World and other music news outlets. I came across this story and I thought we would talk about it. Tomb Mold achieved something great by getting the cover spot on Decibel magazine, an amazing feat in a sea of death metal bands. What I don't think anyone expected was the backlash from readers who were upset with the wardrobe choices that the band graced the cover with. Welcome to the internet age, where everyone's opinion has a platform. Let me know your thoughts on this controversy in the comments section. Thanks for watching.
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The cool thing about DM is that image is secondary to music. Look at how bands looked in the 90s. Impetigo, Lividity, Death...all looked like normal dudes. Chuck Schuldiner used to go on stage wearing a button up shirt!
Very true! I think that's why I love it
I'm sure the button up shirts were post spiritual healing. No way he was wearing those touring for leprosy
@@HoltistheGOAT 80s vs. 90s. Also, the "look" for progressive metal of the 90s was button-ups (think Dream Theater, Fates Warning). Even so, just wearing T-shirts and jeans on stage is a rejection of image.
@ericv7720 key words you made: "progressive metal." Tomb mold tries to rep themselves as the 90s old school death metal sound. You look up pics of malevolent creation, deicide or morbid angel for example and they look the part. Intimidating looking and tough. Why? Because it's death metal.
@ericv7720 also lets go by the logic "looks mean nothing in death metal." Why shouldn't Cannibal Corpse all come out on stage in Hawaiian shirts and cowboy hats? Looks mean nothing in death metal right? I would walk right out of the venue before a single note was played
I remember the late 2000’s where bands like BTBAM wore the most normal clothing you could and still wrote incredibly hard music. Looks don’t mean anything in death metal
I totally agree! Nailed it!
Carcass has this really cool picture of them when they were young, the one on which the drummer climbed on top of a power box. They look exctly like the guys from Tomb Mold.
I laugh when someone say these new bands are hipsters and ignorant stuff like that , they like to pretend metal people aren't nerds , when in fact it's the opposite , all of them are geeks (just like me) . The internet brought every aspect of metal to the light and there's no such thing as underground anymore, there's only the stuff I like and the stuff I dislike and saying I dislike something doesn't mean it's bad or lame, it means I personally don 't like it , so , I move on and don't waste time checking what the band is wearing or criticizing how their music is not rad or metal enough.
White Adidas Top Tens, Black tight jeans, bullet belt, pre 1995 death metal band tee, long hair balding. No exceptions lol
The PERFECT death metal FIT!
Uhm, worrying about what people are wearing is not metal. If the music is good, you can literally wear a sequin jumpsuit, I don't care.
Hell freaking yeah 🤘
I 100% agree with this. There really is no 'uniform' for it. I've seen very 'metal looking' people for a band photo and the music is complete crap. Almost to the point of not even being in the metal genre.
Hipsters need to get their head out of their asses and be there for the music itself and not the image.
Those commenters should go look at Suffocation or hell, Cannibal Corpse. Some of the most death metally death metal bands ever, and they’re literally just dudes.
Anyways The Enduring Spirit was one of the best albums of last year I’m glad they’re getting attention.
I went and saw Morbid Angel after work in my suit. I took off my jacket and tie. No one said anything or looked at me funny.
Had a great night
Well hell yeah brother Matt!
I work in the financial industry and got to most every DM show that comes to my city. Its happened to me many many times. No one cares. These comments were likely from teenagers that haven't figured it out yet.
I wouldn't expect GQ or Vogue to provide insights on music so I don't expect to get fashion tips from metal bands.
Caring about the aesthetics of the members is just cringe. It's not visual art, it's audio. When the type of clothing starts affecting the compositions then I'll.
I agree with your opinion about the openness of metal. The most non-metal thinf i can think of is judging others as not metal. If you want to add an aesthetic to your band like Ghost, Behemoth, Sleep Token go ahead but it's just a gimmick.
I'm with you on this one Jared, thanks for the comment.
I can't believe Tomb Mold would do this to us 😭
Fuck that "debate" bands can wear whatever they want. If you want theatrical stuff theres PLEEEEEEENTY of bands out there to choose from.
I get both sides of the argument but to be fair you see cannibal corpse doing a photo shoot you see they're a death metal band, you see Amon Amarth do a shoot they're a viking death metal band and when you see behemoth do a shoot they're a blackend death metal band and when you see arch enemy do a shoot they're a technical death metal band some times the picture speaks about your music
Yes, but what about Sleep Token =) lol
@@DrewCreal that is a subject that shouldn't exist 😁
@@thegoatmaster 🤣it's a glitch in the matrix
@@DrewCreal you are so right Starbuckscore 😆
I agree that they dress just what they want, but i think metal is way too much exposed. It need to mysteries again. In the 80 and 90's you didn't know the people behind and only heard the stories, that helped to create the vibe around the band. Morbid angel were extreme occult, Deicide was the guy that burned a cross in his forhead, Mayhem were the most extreme nihilistic band. Nowadays you have alot of capes, mask etc but they still do tons of interviews and play throughs. Not a lot of mystery around the bands. Only band i can think of is Deathspell Omega. I want that vibe back.
I agree, that mysterious element of metal has been lost somewhat hasn't it. Maybe that's why Sleep Token is employing it in their performance and overall aura. As a metal musician myself though, I think it's essentially required to post regularly on social media, making guitar/drums content and recording music, printing merch to keep doing this for a living. The scene is competitive and you have to bust your ass to try and make people pay attention to what you're doing...which is why I make CZcams videos, partly because I enjoy it, but also because I want to keep making metal for the rest of my life. There are some mysterious bands out there though worth checking out: Worm, Leviathan, Xastur to name a few, and as you mentioned: Deathspell Omega, great band!!! Thanks for your comment!
Dont care what they wear, how they look or what they do, its a great band!
hard agree!
chuck schuldiner used to wear cat t shirts and jesus sandals...
Appearance matters in show business, fellas.
Oooof, the truth hurts! Nailed it!
fuck that much cult to image ! let's focus on music.
It's not like Tomb Mold is a new band either. Their discography speaks for itself, no comment needed. The best response to these clowns would be "the poser store called, they're running out of you"
It helps to not listen with your eyes. Long live creative music and those who give their lives to perfecting it! I could not possibly be less interested in what any of the great musicians wear or wore. Beethoven, nah, the music is invalidated by the style of his dress. The only awesome thing about this mess is that it is so absurd it is hilarious.
YES!!!! I love it!
Hadn’t checked them out, but I’m listening now and glad they’re getting attention! All press is good press, as they say 😂 I concur with the general thought that appearance doesn’t really matter - I work on music in my pj’s most of the time lol
Heck yeah Proteus! I wear the same thing every day, black pants, black shirt from Target, black socks and I make metal most of the day...but you already knew that!
Tomb Mold rips. Im friends with them. In terms of Death Metal "Fashion" , Payson has been making horror movie tribute t shirts since I have known him. I personally wear Video game and Horror shirts, in addition to band shirts. I also wear 80s Hawaiian shirts and Pit Vipers with my camo pants while playing black metal riffs to offend people in New Zealand.
Oh hell yeah, Black Ops 200s FTW!!!!!
You dont offend anyone, because everything that comes out of your mouth is easily dismissed bullshit. What a total dork.
The kids who were made fun of in high school for how they look are now making fun of other people for how they look. Amazing.
It's sad how that works right? How about treating others, the way you'd like to be treated? That's the code I try to live by.
Im ngl most modern death metal bands just don't capture the look of pretty much every old school death metal band where pretty much every member is skinny with long hair now its just nerds and shorter haired 30 somethings
I can't help it, but I think I'm a short haired 30 something nerd. I've tried growing my hair out several times, I look quite strange and my wife hates it haha.
@@DrewCreal there's only a handful of modern death metal bands I can think of that nail that look all of them younger like (18-24) Texas Ketamine, Barn, Nuclear Remains to name a few all in the underground and very new bands
Dude, I would roast you here in the comments, but I didn’t know who that band was either.
My Take: wear whatever you want, just make creative and good music.
I couldn't agree more!
Their clap back was lame but expected. They should have just ran with it and had fun with it. Like who doesn't like Resident Evil? Or "these were the only clothes we had left, washing day was after the shoot" or "the hair on my nuts is a lot longer" or just something goofy. I think it's better to acknowledge it doesn't bother you much with some wittiness especially when you've got talent/skill backing it up.
Recently that's been my MO when receiving a negative comment, just make some jokes! Appreciate you sharing your opinion here.
People who care about what metal musicians wear, are truly the real posers.
fuk yeah FACERIP!
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I'm allowed to wear whatever I want. I was born in Rochester NY in the ghetto area of the city. I was raised by my older sister who was 20 years old the day I was born. She was married to a Puerto Rican man and so my nephews were born and raised in a Puerto Rican traditional and my brother is married to a native American women. I have a half brother that is black but he was adopted and raised by white parents.
My family had a lot of children in the 70's and 80's and we grew up breaking dancing and painting graffiti. We also were dragged along with our uncle's and older siblings to Grateful Dead shows in the 80's and 90's.
So my home life was growing up in a mostly Puerto Rican neighborhood and being active in DIY culture. All the kids were into rap, hardcore, punk and Spanish music. This is how I was raised and I was heavily involved in the local death metal scene. I've worked with bands like Dying Fetus, Cannibal Corpse, Suffocation and Disgorge and Disgorged and Baphomet.
I was criticized a few times by rarely by metal heads who said that I was a traitor to the scene because I showed up to see Cannibal Corpse with a group of people and I was the only white man in the group. It's funny because those non-white people who I was with went on to play with groups like Morbid Angel, Suffocation, Deicide, Vomit Remnants, Nuclear Assault and other bands.
I never considered myself a death head even though I listen to almost purely death metal and goregrind. I used to work for the rap group Wu Tang Clan doing promotion and I was always hanging out with different Wu Tang members and affiliates and I always wore my Suffocation Jesus Wept shirt. I wore death metal bands shirts to Grateful Dead shows and to the ghetto where I lived. My friends all had more death metal bands shirts than me.
Personally I dress in clothing designed by people, bands or companies who's ethics and morals align with mine. I don't wear Grateful Dead sneakers because they are made by Nike in China using forced laborers, slaves. As a graffiti artist I have actually designed band logos and album art work. I don't draw Vincent Locke Cannibal Corpse like art, I do morbid twisted corpse graffiti with splatter logo like graffiti lettering to that's a hybrid of brutal death metal band logo and old school B Boy street art.
In fact some of the death metal bands that I've done graffiti with include San Diego Disgorge, Cephalic Carnage and the NY death metal band Buried Beneath to name some of the more prominent figures of the death metal scene.
I'm an individual and I don't dress to play LARP. I'm not trying to look like the singer of Exhumed or anyone else. I might wear death metal shirts 6 days a week and on the 7th day you might catch me at a Mortician show wearing a clean white wife beater or some silk screen printed graffiti logo shirt or even a Wu Tang shirt. If someone doesn't like the way I dress then they can act like a gatekeeper and a fascist but nine out of ten times when I'm at a metal show it's usually to support my friends bands or bands I grew up with and the last time someone tried to make a scene and say that I was a n***ga lover and have me beat up in the pit got himself kicked out of the club by everyone who turned on him once they say who he was talking about.
I'm not a celebrity or involved in any bands but like they say in my town my name rings bells. I know almost all the old school death metal labels personally and have worked with almost All of them from Indonesia to the Czech Republic to Mexico Japan and Bulgaria. I'm almost 50 years old, I don't play kids games, I forgot about more death metal bands than most death metal fans have heard of.
I'm not out to prove how metal I am. I'm not even metal anyhow. I don't listen to metal at all except for death metal and goregrind deathgrind. I've been involved with the death metal scene since 1988 and I was the one who was breaking dancing on the floor in front of the stage at the Immolation and Incantation show when the black metal band GoatWhore was on stage playing to themselves because everyone was at the bar getting drinks or using the bathroom. Black metal bands don't belong sandwiched between two death metal bands so I did what I do and was on the floor breaking. The band actually liked or at least they acted like they did. Later that night I saw GoatWhore eating out at the local Denny's at 2am and I didn't know that it was the band. I walked up to their table because they had some hot girls with them and I saw they were wearing GoatWhore shirts. I said "GoatWhore, that band sucks" and they said thanks that us. The band members are cool dudes I just don't like black metal because it's not my preference.
Hey man, I really appreciate you sharing your story here. It's sounds like you've lived a very cultured and eclectic life and I'm very thankful for folks like yourself who are involved in the death metal scene. I always try to be myself and wear clothing that can express that. I also try to ignore the hype train, because inevitably those fads come and go, but it's funny that death metal and death core for that matter, are regaining popularity, and I think that's great. Just saw Cannibal Corpse in Nashville and it was refreshing to be around so many people that care about death metal and weren't there to be fashionable. I love it. THanks again for the comment, KEEP BEING YOU! Stay brutal!
Alternative people to the norm do get oppressed heavily. Punks, Goths, Metal heads, even Emos had to suffer prejudice. Yes, Death Metal has a look it was clearly defined byvearly break out bands like Canibal Corpse, ive stopped people in the street and had conversations with them because they look Death metal, hence the huge backlash frok the community to Tomb Mold. My experience with people who play both sides of the fence with anything in life is they will sit there and say nothing as people Diss your(/their) people, these people want all the glory and non of the problems, they'll even create the problems by being a middle man who the oppressors use to identify the rebellious. So, in my book, this should NEVER be tolerated. If you want to be a Web Analyst for Starbucks, and avoid being labled a devil worshiper by the 50 year old Christian couple next door and be let go for your speeding ticket, cool. But don't be entering circles of oppressed people when you yourself are they oppressor. If the police raid the venue and search everyone for weed the it'll be the kid who looks metal getting choked and abused by the cops as Tomb Mold just nod to the cops walk away thinking "hey I'm so glad that wasn't me" but the kid became a metal head because of bands. People like Tomb Mold are scummy agents basically - knowingly or not. And we should NEVER EVER tolerate it!
Enough with this new age "Death Metal" with the cavernous vocals and extra dark dissonant riffs, where the band members look like javascript developers. Agree with the criticism. Also the new Tomb Mold SUCKS
I enjoyed their record, thanks for weighing in though. What are some of your favorite DM records?
@@DrewCreal Deicide, Cannibal Corpse, Necrot.
I’m loving the new Tomb Mold album, but To each his/her own. I wish you well my friend
@thedddemon I agree with you. I miss it when death metal bands had unique sounds like cannibal corpse, carcass, obituary, and deicide. Also all those bands vocalists were distinct and could be picked out of a lineup. I do like 200 Stab Wounds, Frozen Soul and Fulci though