Suicides: Visitations from Purgatory

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  • Suicides: Visitations from Purgatory
    Revelations from Ursula Hibbeln, Maria Simma, and St. Padre Pio
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    Sources of information:
    Historical Info about Padre Pio: Wikipedia.com
    Historical Info about Simma: Mystics of the Church website
    Historical Info Ursula Hebbeln: Hungry Souls (book) by Gerard Van Den Aardweg

Komentáře • 161

  • @MaryKane-qv5vz
    @MaryKane-qv5vz Před 6 měsíci +23

    Pray for all those who have died. We all need the mercy of God.

  • @Sydroo1969
    @Sydroo1969 Před 6 měsíci +32

    Someone I dearly love had a TBI ( traumatic brain injury). It changed them. About six years later, they took their own life.
    I would like to think they too made it to Purgatory. Twice a year I light a candle in church for them. On their birthday and the day they died. I pray for them too. 🙏 JMJ

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Every single prayer you say for your dear friend in your lifetime will all count for them as they face judgement. God bless, and I will pray for you and your friend ❤

  • @user-hz6bl7nf6z
    @user-hz6bl7nf6z Před 6 měsíci +23

    I had an injury when I was young. Which many times I want to end my life. But I came from a Catholic family. I was afraid of ending up in Hell. So I was told that God would not give you a Cross you could not bear. At 26, I was ready to end my life, I didn’t care where I went. Because I was tired of the pain. I became a father, I thought great , how can I leave a child alone in this world without a parent? I love this child more than myself. That’s never going to change.

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci +2

      God bless you, brother. I hope everything is going well for you. I shall keep yourself and your son in my prayers.

    • @dianapanetta
      @dianapanetta Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@Dienekes678❤❤❤ ditto

  • @kevinmcnamara704
    @kevinmcnamara704 Před 6 měsíci +12

    🙏 for our lovely James, a kind loving gentle soul,sadly missed everyday 😢 god bless all souls amen 🙏

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Praying for your family and James ❤🙏

    • @kevinmcnamara704
      @kevinmcnamara704 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@Dienekes678 tks god bless you 🙏

  • @docinmaking8894
    @docinmaking8894 Před 6 měsíci +24

    Thank God for Purgatory! 🙏

    • @mikebuckley46
      @mikebuckley46 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Everything God does is merciful

    • @jax9769
      @jax9769 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Purgatory doesn't exist

  • @SusanChristopher-hl7eq
    @SusanChristopher-hl7eq Před 6 měsíci +21

    My mother committed suicide when I was 21. She had a benign growth removed from her thyroid. The doctors told her she was ok, but she withheld fear that drs were lying to her like they did in 1968 when her dad died of prostate cancer. My parents had unexpectedly had 2 more kids as us 3 older ones were leaving the nest. Mom bundled up 5 yr old John and nine month old Mark, placed them in the car in the garage and all 3 died of carbon monoxide poisoning. We are Catholic. I instinctively knew that all 3 went straight to heaven because mom was suffering from mental illness. I've spent my life advocating mental health services and doing what I can to be a compassionate listener. Jesus' love and mercy triumphs!

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci +4

      That is heartbreaking. God bless you for the work you do.

    • @lilyw.719
      @lilyw.719 Před 6 měsíci

      That's not how things work. Mental illness does not excuse murdering children, and mental illness does not guarantee you a ticket to heaven. The vast majority of people who do unspeakably evil things like your mother did were mentally ill, but that does not excuse them from the culpability for their crimes, only lessens them. A different way of thinking about it is to make the comparison with manslaughter. With a manslaughter charge, someone got killed through an absolute accident, with no intent to harm - and yet we hold whoever did it accountable.
      So, I'm point blank telling you that no, your mother did not go straight to heaven. In fact it is more likely than not that she went straight to hell. And it's absolutely awful that you make excuses for this horrendously evil woman. The sheer amount of delusion with you is unbelievable, and you should be absolutely ashamed of yourself.
      And please under no circumstances lie to yourself and others and claim that you are Catholic, because you're not, and you're misrepresenting Catholic beliefs. You don't have the Catholic faith. Suicides do not get a pass. We do not bury them in holy ground because our faith teaches us that it is the norm that they go hell. It can only be in extremely rare cases that a suicide is saved at the last minute through God's mercy. They're the exception, not the rule. Because your mother did something so profoundly evil, she is probably not the exception.
      And those are your brothers that that woman murdered. Don't distance yourself from them by not acknowledging that they were your brothers.

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@lilyw.719 what a truly vile, callous post. Go to confession, as soon as you can.
      I'm almost in shock here...and you dare to tell Susan that *she* is not Catholic!?
      The Holy Spirit certainly does not dwell in you, that is the only certainty here. Demons likely do though, if your monstrous post is anything to go by. I'll pray you get the help you need.

    • @jover4653
      @jover4653  Před 6 měsíci +5

      God's judgement is very different from man's judgement.

    • @hayeslincoln3111
      @hayeslincoln3111 Před 6 měsíci +5

      I don t think God sent her away.
      Those little ones were totally innocent so when all three of them met Jesus. He's going to say you little guys come on in . But you mom are going to hell. Absolutely not.
      He knew her pain her fear. .
      I think they all went home.
      Jesus and God are so cool that way. They got the whole picture. And now they can and are praying for you. How cool is that

  • @Sh5rrrttttttrrrrrrrrrrms-vs3nl
    @Sh5rrrttttttrrrrrrrrrrms-vs3nl Před 6 měsíci +4

    Thank you God for your grace and mercy.

  • @mmouseav8r402
    @mmouseav8r402 Před 6 měsíci +17

    I’m converting to Catholicism from an agnostic/atheist upbringing, what draws me to the faith is purgatory, which in my view is an act of love from god because it spares the poor souls eternal suffering in hell, they will still be able to reach heaven. I’m nearly two years into my conversion, and am still not baptized 😞

    • @rubemartur8239
      @rubemartur8239 Před 6 měsíci

      Seek about venial and mortal sins at Google.
      Avoid the mortal ones *at any cost*.
      The venial sins can be confessed to God directly without a Priest, but you must be sincere to repent, just as you would do with a mortal sin, and try to sin *no more*.
      The mortal sin need Confession with help of a Priest, but you need baptism first to confess.
      Ask a church near your house and ask for baptism, any question you are free to ask.
      God is Justice, but He is also mercyful.
      If you, with this strong will to get baptism, die by some motive, you will be saved, as long you have this Desire and repetence for sins, until your Very First baptism.
      Also, and more important: never tell yourself God "cannot forgive you".

    • @chilac6367
      @chilac6367 Před 6 měsíci

      😢😢

    • @toddgallo1759
      @toddgallo1759 Před 6 měsíci +3

      God's act of love is sending Jesus Christ down to die for our sins.

    • @alainlafond4505
      @alainlafond4505 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Demander à un prêtre catholique de vous baptiser dès que possible car c’est très important! 😉

    • @patrickmccutcheon9361
      @patrickmccutcheon9361 Před 6 měsíci +2

      The idea of purgatory is interesting. The question is whether you have to believe in its existence in order to be able to go there or that it is one’s actions rather than one’s beliefs that determine what kind of afterlife fate awaits.

  • @joannemonast8670
    @joannemonast8670 Před měsícem +1

    Prayers for generations past, present, and future! Prayers for ending selective education and documentation of prejudices throughout the history of gangs manipulating never-ending artfulness of GAMES psychological psychopathic narcissistic manipulating abuses on many levels! Prayers for ending workers' compensation medical services restrictions from medical care needed by individual.

  • @hayeslincoln3111
    @hayeslincoln3111 Před 6 měsíci +7

    There is purgitory.
    The cool thing about it.
    Thers no back door
    You are going to heaven. We need to pray for them. They cannot help themselves. But we can help them.

  • @el-sig2249
    @el-sig2249 Před 6 měsíci +11

    While everything said in this video is true we must remember that suicides will often go to Hell, as per Church teaching, so we must not take it for granted. We must do penance and obtain grace for final perseverance, for self and loved ones, when that day of awful trial comes 🙏🏾

    • @lilyw.719
      @lilyw.719 Před 6 měsíci

      100%. Hell is the norm for suicides, not the exception. That is the true teaching of Church. We do not bury suicides in Holy ground or offer them Requiem masses because we believe that, as a rule, they have gone to hell.
      No one can claim otherwise and call themselves a Catholic, because they are a heretic. It does not matter what heretical modernist clergy may claim, or what they may do about a suicide. The true, authentic teaching of the Church is what I have explained.

  • @MaryKane-qv5vz
    @MaryKane-qv5vz Před 5 měsíci +1

    Any prayers said, even years after death, for those who have died, whether naturally or not are known to God at their judgment ( as explained by Padre Pio to one of the Friars). So we should always pray diligently for those who have gone before us.

  • @petercole8798
    @petercole8798 Před 6 měsíci +7

    When I say rosery I offer some of it to souls in purgatory. Does our lady know this.

  • @KenPotter
    @KenPotter Před 6 měsíci +5

    I had a dream/visitation and I was in a place that looked exactly like the thumbnail. Shadow-people.

    • @lilyw.719
      @lilyw.719 Před 6 měsíci

      Most shadow people are demons, just saying. Demonic dreams are common.

  • @davidmarks8318
    @davidmarks8318 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Hope I make it to purgatory!

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Me too brother! We should all aim for heaven, of course, but I've a lot of stuff to atone for.
      God bless.

  • @WhiskeyTango68
    @WhiskeyTango68 Před 6 měsíci +10

    If such a place even existed and you or a loved one find yourself in such a dark place, ask Jesus for help and his light will find you. You are a child of God and he loves us. We are all sinners. 🙏

    • @OverYou-tr5ok
      @OverYou-tr5ok Před 6 měsíci

      Purgatory, no such thing.
      But Catholics are hell bent on believing in it.

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@OverYou-tr5okyou'll either end up in purgatory, or hell upon your death. So best hope there is a purgatory, eh?

    • @OverYou-tr5ok
      @OverYou-tr5ok Před 6 měsíci

      @@Dienekes678
      eh ? No

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@OverYou-tr5ok well unless you have reached sainthood by your death, it's hell for you then, if you reject the mercy of Purgatory.

    • @lilyw.719
      @lilyw.719 Před 6 měsíci

      You are not a Catholic. Purgatory is a dogma of the faith that you must accept and are not free to reject. If you reject any single truth of the faith, you automatically give to hell, because you have committed the mortal sin of heresy and separated yourself from the Catholic Church and the mystical body of Christ. That is the literal teaching of the Church. You may not reject any dogma.
      So you had best accept the Catholic faith, whole and entire.

  • @agata2459
    @agata2459 Před 6 měsíci

    👍❤️

  • @time4grace
    @time4grace Před 6 měsíci +2

    Thank you. How about those who committed abortion, are they in Purgatory? If only they repented maybe?

    • @joesimons7387
      @joesimons7387 Před 6 měsíci +1

      It depends. You heard what it takes to commit mortal sin. Maybe these women were in great psychological distress. Let's hope these women repent. Our God is a God of Mercy.

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I',d fear for the parents who have no remorse, guilt or regret for having an abortion.
      They are placing their souls in grave danger. How hardened must a heart be to not feel any guilt for this act?

    • @jover4653
      @jover4653  Před 6 měsíci

      That depends. There is that story where health circumstances require one to choose, the life of the mother or the life of the baby? I know of a recent case where they have to abort the baby in order to save the mother.

  • @ginamilite1256
    @ginamilite1256 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Purgatory

  • @wms72
    @wms72 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Stig MAH tah
    Knelt, not kneeled

  • @rickyhammer6832
    @rickyhammer6832 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Says Who? We reincarnate and many leave everyday. NDE says otherwise.

  • @dgontar
    @dgontar Před 5 měsíci +1

    This Catholic attitude towards suicide is completely dogmatic. It's just some person's speculation on the matter, and their emotions, and is not rooted in objective thought, and also scripture in the least. One can pretty easily see that it's a person's inability to understand mainly two things: 1) the terrible psychological condition, as well as their (usually) very bad circumstances most people are in who contemplate this act enough to finally commit it and 2) how a person may "escape" the responsibilities of life, such as hard work at a job, the stressors of life, etc. In regard to point 2) I will add that a person may escape what they face in this life, but what they escape more often than not is not personal responsibility and hard work, but their emotional condition which was imposed upon them and which made their personal responsibilities extremely difficult. You have to delineate between an emotional condition and life's responsibilities. Being responsible does not and should not signify a great deal of perpetual suffering.
    And no I would not say their emotional condition is a result of sin. I would say that they usually have a lack of wisdom. Perhaps that contributes to a lack of joy, but it is not what mainly contributes to it. Usually that is just bad luck, misfortune.

  • @user-pq6hg9om8w
    @user-pq6hg9om8w Před 6 měsíci +3

    That’s not true, those who commit suicide go to hell. I can testified that by Jesús mercy who revealed me some souls who suicided and are in hell.

    • @HeartlandPatriotWarrior
      @HeartlandPatriotWarrior Před 6 měsíci +3

      Wrong. Read your catechism.

    • @seamusweber8298
      @seamusweber8298 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@HeartlandPatriotWarriorSelf Murder is the description of what is now known as suicide. Self Murder was always regarded a mortal sin. And if one dies in a state of mortal sin, the soul goes to Hell.

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@seamusweber8298you do not understand what is required for a sin to be mortal.
      I would argue that the "will" of the vast majority of people who commit suicide are compromised.

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci

      Do you have any empathy whatsoever? Do you realise that there may be heart-broken families that have lost loved ones to suicide, reading these comments?
      Have a heart! And educate yourself, because you are wrong.

    • @seamusweber8298
      @seamusweber8298 Před 6 měsíci

      @Dienekes678 Read Summa Theologiae Question 64. It states clearly that self murder / suicide is a mortal sin. And Catholicism has always taught that to die in a state of mortal sin means being condemned to Hell. Don't try to shoot the messenger.

  • @HammerofGod777
    @HammerofGod777 Před 6 měsíci +1

    So I have a question to you Catholics. When the world ends, who will continue to pray for the ones left in Purgatory? I guess they are out of luck. I guess it's like gambling whereby some win and others lose. The remaining ones left in Purgatory will never know what heaven is like and stuck in limbo forever. Wow, I didn't know God could allow such a thing. Maybe some of them who performed good works will be allowed to cut to the front of the line and be allowed to get into heaven the very last second the world catches fire.

    • @jover4653
      @jover4653  Před 6 měsíci +1

      If a soul is sentenced to 10 years in Purgatory, that can be shortened to 5 years or less if someone would offer prayers and/ or Holy Mass for the soul. Otherwise, the 10 years must run its course.

    • @mikeydonnie
      @mikeydonnie Před 6 měsíci +2

      Purgatory will be emptied at the final judgment. That's why the Last Days will be so hard. Those living at the end of the world will have less time for Purgatory and will have to do greater penance in this life

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Your question exposes your ignorance, on many levels.

    • @HammerofGod777
      @HammerofGod777 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Can anyone show me scripture that mentions this idea?

    • @HammerofGod777
      @HammerofGod777 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Dienekes678 Can you please show me scripture to back this idea up? I want to know so I can share it among others at Bible study. Thank you in advance.

  • @psychedelicpython
    @psychedelicpython Před 6 měsíci +1

    I've thought about people who have committed suicide and how many are in despair and suffering mentally. Some also suffer from physical pain until they just can't take it anymore. I think that God has compassion on them and wouldn't send them to hell like the Catholic teaches on suicide, but instead a lot of these souls would go to purgatory. Of course this isn't the case for everyone. I had an older sister who refused God's existence, and she was cruel and jealous of people who had nice things. She committed suicide and I'm sure she went to hell.

    • @gratiaadinda6441
      @gratiaadinda6441 Před 6 měsíci +2

      actually catholic don't teach that every people who suicide go to hell, people who tell like that don't really know what catholic really teach about suicide. I suggest you to watch Father Chris Alar's video talk about suicide

    • @Brom2855
      @Brom2855 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Can say, from my chronic condition, that every suffering God permits is so we might learn to seek Him. He offers solution and everything, only if we choose Him. I had to learn this as part of enduring chronic health condition.
      Suicide *is* act of despair, as well as intentional self-kill to escape bodily pain. I've no doubt Jesus judges suiciders appropriately--and impossible for any committing suicide to go to Heaven right away. Without a body w/ with to offer prayer and penance, hard to imagine the soul is ready for Him. Dr. Gloria Polo, in her judgement account, says the souls of those who commit suicide fall out of "Natural Order" and if accept Jesus then, go to Purgatory; I'm confident unrepentant souls that deny Jesus even after death cast themselves into Hell.

    • @gratiaadinda6441
      @gratiaadinda6441 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Brom2855 what about people who don't know Jesus and nobody around them (people who commit suicide) to help them suffer? what catholic teach is if people died with mortal sin, they go to hell. we know something is mortal sin if : 1. grave matter ; 2. full knowledge ; 3. deliberate consent. And three of them must be met. Yes, suicide is wrong and it despair us from God and it is not forgiven IF we have a knowledge about that. It's so hard to understand at first, but the more we learn it, the more we understand God's mercy. We should pray for God's mercy to them who suffer from the pain.

    • @Brom2855
      @Brom2855 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@gratiaadinda6441Our Blessed Mother, at Fatima, told the three children one of their teen friends is in Purgatory until this world ends--for one mortal sin she repented of after death. Afterlife chapters like Howard Storm and Dr. Gloria Polo shared make it clear Jesus is indeed one prayer away from rushing to your aid even after bodily death.
      My understanding is the soul, since no physical limits, is able to realize God indeed exists and can at any moment before getting swallowed into Hell beg to be saved. Mention of Him is virtually everywhere, whether in praise or curse.
      As to what happens to individuals souls, nobody but He knows. Our responsibility is to invoke His Mercy--still struggle daily here--to snatch many souls who die today from final damnation.

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci

      Your prayers and sacrifices can save your sisters soul, or at least give her a chance!!

  • @r.e.jr.1152
    @r.e.jr.1152 Před 6 měsíci

    Everything shown in this video is occultic.

  • @gbluesrocker
    @gbluesrocker Před 6 měsíci +2

    Can you tell me where in the Bible that Jesus was crystal clear about the existence of Purgatory? He spoke about Heaven and hell quite clearly

    • @wms72
      @wms72 Před 6 měsíci +2

      The answer to your question is below, but you must understand these truths first:
      Protestants FALSELY think Scripture is the only word of God.
      Catholics know the Word of God is a PERSON: *JESUS CHRIST* and, as Matthew 4:4 says, "Man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY WORD that comes from the mouth of God."
      Protestants don't HAVE "every word," because,
      1) in contradiction of 2Thessalonians2:15, 2Timothy2:2, and Titus1:9, Protestants, following crazy apostate priest Luther, threw away Divine Tradition, the oral teaching Jesus gave His Apostles and which His Catholic Church treasures.
      2) Protestants only have 66 books in their Bible, in contradiction to Deuteronomy 4:2"You shall not add to the word of God ... nor take away from it."
      3) Protestants don't have ONE Pope, but, as Luther said, "Every man is his own Pope." Jesus taught infallibly. He doesn't love us any less than He loved His first listeners, so He left an infallible teaching authority, which Divine Tradition identifies as the Pope of Rome.
      4) If protestants were right that "Scripture interprets Scripture," which the Bible NEVER says), why are there over 40,000 different protestant denominations with different doctrines, that can't agree on the meaning of Baptism, or how exactly to be saved?
      The night before He died, Jesus prayed that His followers would be ONE. He gave His Church the Holy Spirit to unify His followers. He gave the first Pope, Peter, to strengthen His Apostles, the first bishops of the Catholic Church, and gave them authority to teach "ALL that He commanded them."
      Protestants don't have ALL He commanded, because they only read what the Apostles wrote down.
      Peter preached on the first Pentecost and 3,000 people were baptized. What part of the New Testament did Peter preach from? The first book of the New Testament would not be written for years and the last book wouldn't be written for decades.
      Yet the Church spread throughout the Empire before the Bible was compiled into one book at the Council of Rome under Pope Damasus 1 in A.D.382. These are undisputed historical facts, even protestant scholars agree to.
      Diabolic means "divider." That protestants have a spirit of division is evident in their constant division.
      Acts20:31 says St. Paul lived and taught at Ephesus for 3 years, yet protestants want to know NOTHING of what he taught there except what he wrote in a letter several pages long, that was never meant to be the sole rule of faith.
      Where in the Bible does it say "Scripture alone", "faith alone", (which doesn't make sense: 2 "alones")? Those foundational protestant doctrines are NOT in the Bible.
      The ordained Catholic minister is the sacramental bond that ties the Church's worship in liturgical action to what the Apostles said and did, and through them to the words and actions of Christ, the Source and Foundation of His Sacraments, which are the fulfillment of Judaism and have nothing to do with pagan Rome.
      Look at Daniel 7:27, which prophecies that the 4th Kingdom (pagan Rome) would be converted and given to the saints of the Highest One. Jesus identified Himself as the Son of Man foretold by Daniel, corroborating that the 4th kingdom was Rome. THEREFORE, if where you worship does NOT look like the converted Roman Empire, then you are NOT worshipping in Jesus's One True Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
      Ask the Holy Spirit to remove your spiritual blindness, if necessary. DEUS BENEDICAT TUUM, IN NOMINE PATRIS ET FILII ET SPIRITUS SANCTI. +AMEN.
      (Btw, Latin is one of the 3 sacred languages, which exorcists have said is more effective against the devil, because it was nailed to the holy Cross.)
      TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION: Since Jesus never intended for the Bible to be the sole rule of faith (See John 21:25, and John 16:12,13), the Bible does not record His explicit teaching on Purgatory that He orally taught His Apostles. Jesus founded a PREACHING CHURCH (Mark 16:15, 20) Jesus alludes to Purgatory in Matthew 12:31,32 and Luke 12:35-48, and the very important verse 59. Paul alludes to Purgatory in 1Corinthians3:11-15, and Hebrews 12:23. Peter alludes to Purgatory in 1Peter3:19,20. Also, the books of Maccabees, 1Samuel 2:6 and Zechariah 13:9 presumes Purgatory, as Jews still believe today. Understand that Jesus never explicitly DENOUNCED Purgatory as a false doctrine as He did with other man made customs.

    • @aliciavillagomez9421
      @aliciavillagomez9421 Před 6 měsíci +2

      It's in the Book of Maccabees, but that is not in your KJV Bible.

    • @gratiaadinda6441
      @gratiaadinda6441 Před 6 měsíci +1

      “He will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire” (1 Cor 3:15).

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@gratiaadinda6441Bingo.

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@wms72excellent work! God bless.

  • @enemanozzle
    @enemanozzle Před 6 měsíci

    Apocalypse 10:6 exludes the purgatory. Augustine of Hippo (354-430) , bishop of Hippo Regius in Numidia and one of the most important Church Fathers of the Latin Church has declared: "Be not mistaken opon the fact that there will exist only two locations: the paradise for the dears and the hell for the sinners. - The purgartory has been introduced between 1170 and 1200, so in the Middle Ages. Up to this age the purgatory has been completely unknown and it will be not only in vain but pointless too to search for biblical justifications.

    • @user-ob6un3it9w
      @user-ob6un3it9w Před 6 měsíci +4

      No where in the Bible does it say “ Bible only “. Read a Catholic Bible. There is a paragraph that describes it to a tee

    • @enemanozzle
      @enemanozzle Před 6 měsíci

      @@user-ob6un3it9w The translation of the Catholic Bible is not correct, this for example concerning the purgatory.
      Apocalypse 10:6 in the Greec original text exludes the purgatory. Augustine of Hippo (354-430) , bishop of Hippo Regius in Numidia and one of the most important Church Fathers of the Latin Church has declared: "Be not mistaken opon the fact that there will exist only two locations: the paradise for the dears and the hell for the sinners." - The purgartory has been introduced between 1170 and 1200, so in the Middle Ages. Up to this age the purgatory has been completely unknown and it will be not only in vain but pointless too to search for biblical justifications.

    • @zuketroop1
      @zuketroop1 Před 6 měsíci

      I think Revelation 22:18 & 19 does just that. Paraphrase: ..do not add anything to OR take anything from this book of prophesy.... The HOLY BIBLE does describe a place called, "Abraham's Bosom" in one text. Jesus himself described this place in his story, not parable, but his story of a begger named Lazarus and a certain rich man. Described essentially as a front porch into heaven. Jesus hadn't been crucified yet and therfore hadn't paid that awful price he paid for our sins just yet. The HOLY BIBLE doesn't describe any other place of existence other than Heaven and Hell. You want to follow what you read in your catholic bible that differs from the HOLY BIBLE. Let me refer you to Revelation 22:18 & 19 again.

    • @enemanozzle
      @enemanozzle Před 6 měsíci

      @@zuketroop1I agree completely: "The HOLY BIBLE doesn't describe any other place of existence other than Heaven and Hell." - So a purgatory does not exist.

    • @selwynmenezes6824
      @selwynmenezes6824 Před 6 měsíci +1

      'cleansing thro Fire' is definitely mentioned somewer in the Bible..clearly indicating that there is an intermidatory place ...Bible clearly says nothing unclean can enter heaven and Believers take for granted that whatever sins they carry on till end will be cleansed by the blood of Jesus n guarantee them a place in Heaven... Ridiculous...The Saints revelations have to be true as they did d will of God n were given the gift of communicating with Souls in Purgatory.....It is quiet obvious that like in Chapter of Maccabees it is mentioned about offering prayets for d Souls of the Soldiers

  • @stripecatflippangitnamecha8721
    @stripecatflippangitnamecha8721 Před 6 měsíci +2

    People said there is only hell and heaven no porgatory.

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci

      People say a lot of things, and are often wrong.

  • @jameskennedy6982
    @jameskennedy6982 Před 6 měsíci +2

    There is no purgatory, that is a lie of the catholic church(like many). I was a catholic for 30+ years, 12 years of catholic schools... there is only one way to enter heaven, asking JESUS to be your personal Savior....PERIOD! Any other teaching is a lie. If one person could, by doing good, enter heaven, CHRIST wouldn't have had to pay for our sins. "No one comes to the FATHER except through JESUS"....JESUS alone!

    • @gratiaadinda6441
      @gratiaadinda6441 Před 6 měsíci +2

      where is your humiliation, brother? just because you was a catholic for many years, doesn't mean it gives the validation for your statement. I suggest you to learn more about it rather than give a bravely statement that is a lie. Just because purgatory is exist, doesn't mean that we don't need a salvation. Precisely because Jesus had pay for our sins, that is prove that God's mercy is beyond what we can imagine, and purgatory is one of the prove that God's mercy is exist. The best way to learn is to bring the humiliation to ourself to have a better understanding about that. Gbu.

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci

      Sorry you never came to actually understand Catholicism. I'll pray for your conversion. God bless!

    • @hayeslincoln3111
      @hayeslincoln3111 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Spoken like a true born again Christian brother. Simple and uninformed. You can do anything you like and your covered the problem with this is. Just because our Lord payed for our sins doesn't t absolve you of the responsibility of life challenges .
      And part of those challenges is knowing what he said and what he meant
      Luther decided on his own that 7 books that were in the Bible . No longer count. Why. Because he decided this.. and that is where you and the prodastant faith go your own way. And make the kind of claims you make .
      Based on ignorance and generational teachings of what ever denomination you claim to be in..

    • @hayeslincoln3111
      @hayeslincoln3111 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I've been a Catholic for 65 years. Only now am I really discovering what the faith is about. If you had been a practicing Catholic as in really looking into the faith as opposed to just going to church on Sunday.
      A born again Christian would never even made a dent in your faiths armour. But like so many of us who weren't t taught our faith much past 7 th grade you went along with it until someone who knows scripture started making inroads on you. I've had it happen many times.
      I ask them who gave Luther the authority to start his own faith. They say God did by helping him bring out the corruption of the Catholic church. I counter by saying Jesus said to Peter you are the rock I will build MY church on. End of discussion sir. The prodastant faith is a fractured piece of what Jesus started. He e you ever wondered why the most holy the deepest things of the Catholic faith are either downplayed or flat out rejected by the prodastant faith.
      Communion
      Confession
      Marriage
      Last rites
      The priesthood.
      If you were the evil one and you could pick away at God's plan. How would you do it without being caught. Take away the most holy and most powerful things God gave us to guard our souls and gain our salvation.
      And then to make a point at God. I would not only take that stuff away. I would make a mockery of the things he asked us to do.
      And then I'd nibble away at the endearing things like statues. Beautiful churches
      Kneelers. All the things of reverence .
      You know. The sign of the cross. Bowing
      Genuflecting. Observing silence upon entering the chapel
      For those who have eyes.
      You were born and raised a Catholic. These things are in you. You will be held to a higher standard.

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci

      @@hayeslincoln3111 very well said, brother!

  • @loveyourenemy4512
    @loveyourenemy4512 Před 6 měsíci +1

    And now you have to bless LGBTQ couples. Ain't that great?

    • @jover4653
      @jover4653  Před 6 měsíci

      Oh that? No worry! The prophesied triump of the Immaculate Heart is fast approaching.

    • @loveyourenemy4512
      @loveyourenemy4512 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@jover4653 what is the prophecy? I hadn't heard.

    • @jover4653
      @jover4653  Před 6 měsíci

      @@loveyourenemy4512 Too many prophecies or revelations from ssints and mystics. The messages of Our Lady of Fatima, the messages of Our Lady of Good Success, revelations by St. Faustina, Blessed Ann Marie Taigi, messages of Our Lady of Garabandal, Book of Revelation, etc. etc. They all mentioned about the end times - the end of Satan's reign on earth, and the triump of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Do some research on those. Very interesting and encouraging

    • @loveyourenemy4512
      @loveyourenemy4512 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@jover4653 is it in the word of God the creator?

    • @jover4653
      @jover4653  Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@loveyourenemy4512 Yes. You need discernment of the Holy Spirit so that you will feel with conviction what is the truth and what is false. I will get back to you and give you more details about discernment. After all, the name of this channel is The Discerning.

  • @randym.7238
    @randym.7238 Před 6 měsíci

    PURGATORY DOES NOT EXIST. HOW DO I KNOW? (ROMANS 8:1 ) “ THEREFORE THERE IS NOW NO CONDEMNATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN CHRIST.”
    CHRIST DIED ONCE FOR ALL TIME TO PAY FOR THE SINS OF BELIEVERS.
    THE SAVED CANT PAY THE PRICE OF THEIR SINS SINCE JESUS ALREADY PAID THE PRICE IN BLOOD AND DEATH. PURGATORY IS JUST ONE MORE THING THE RCC CLAIMS BUT IS IN FACT NEVER MENTIONED IN SCRIPTURE. 👈

    • @jimbro601
      @jimbro601 Před 6 měsíci +2

      It’s in Maccabees where the sacred author talks about praying for the dead. The Bible was doing fine for eleven hundred years until Martin Luther threw out seven books of the Bible. Get yourself a Catholic Bible

    • @hayeslincoln3111
      @hayeslincoln3111 Před 6 měsíci +1

      You are so right
      This is the Baptist /born again christians deciding what they think is scripture. Picking and choosing verses that suit their cause
      By what authority did Luther start his own faith. This minor priest with some very serious men tal issues decides on his own what should be in the Bible. These very things were discussed in length by the church father's way before Luther came on the scene. So again I ask you. By who's authority did Luther get the right to negate the seven books he negated.
      I think I'll. Start my own church. Well call it the church of old cool cars. You see my point
      To cherry pick scripture to make your point is doing a great disservice to your congregation to the Bible and to God .
      To say Jesus Christ is my personal savior is totally correct. But it does not absolve you of the required thing you must do in life to gain salvation. If it did you could do anything you want. And it's all good cause the man knew what I was going to do and died for me anyway. That is an insult to the life of Christ and his mission. We were suppose to emulate his life. Why did he say pray for your dead. He knew something we didn t. It is time to look a little more deeply into the fullness of the faith. The Catholic faith was the church founded by Christ. And trusted to us. Luther hernery the 8th Wesley Joseph Smith etc etc cannot make that claim.

  • @morganmills13
    @morganmills13 Před 6 měsíci +1

    It's nonsense like this that made me walk away from Catholicism & Christianity. The majority of people who take their own lives suffer from mental illness & I don't understand how any rational individual could believe that suicide as a result of debilitating depression could be considered a sin grievous enough to warrant further suffering in the afterlife. It's as ridiculous as believing that Mary was an example of human parthenogenesis. I look back at my time as a Catholic & I am honestly ashamed of my own ignorance. Suicide is not a sin. It's an act of profound desperation.

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci +3

      I'm sorry you never came to fully understand Catholicism. If you did, you wouldn't have left. It's that simple.
      God bless, and I hope you find your way home one day.

    • @jover4653
      @jover4653  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Finish watching this video, and you will noticed that it agrees with your views. Discern.

    • @evelinenachtegaelelovesgat2686
      @evelinenachtegaelelovesgat2686 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Jesus purifies us by his blood. Purgatory is Jesus purifying us so we are ready for heaven as no one impure or unholy may enter. Takes a moment for this to happen or a long time. Only God knows. Peace of Christ be with us.

  • @tommasolombardi3520
    @tommasolombardi3520 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Purgatory is not Biblical.
    The sacrifice of Christ is more than enough for them that believe.

    • @Dienekes678
      @Dienekes678 Před 6 měsíci

      Are you perfect? No? Well nothing imperfect can enter heaven.
      Don't fret! In His mercy, we are gifted a stint in purgatory to clean ourselves up before joining God in heaven.
      Praise God!

    • @tommasolombardi3520
      @tommasolombardi3520 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Dienekes678 No I’m not perfect and I’ll never be, but my advocate Jesus Christ is perfect. He took my place on that cross and His sacrifice is enough.
      I am saved by grace alone, in Christ alone, through faith alone, to the glory of God alone.
      I have nothing to boast about, He did it all.