Excellent speech from Christopher Hitchens. The courage to speak out against religious madness. For centuries all religions of this world have brought suffering on humans.
Courage? Hitchens always preaches to friendly audiences. He preaches the religion of this world to the vast majority of this world. The overwhelming majority, from the unwashed ignorant to the effete of the atheist snobs, accept him as a high priest of atheism. He fortifies their fervent hope that they won't have to account to God for how they have lived their lives. No, you have it completely backwards. It takes courage to expose what an unscientific hoax evolution is, to demonstrate that evolution has no cause and effect basis as all things scientific must, to point out that there cannot be "natural selection" of things that don't exist. No, on the contrary, it takes courage to show atheists who violently resist the unwelcome truth that evolution is the religion of the blindly irrational. To attempt to show the truth to an evolutionist is like addressing a rabid lynch mob with a blood lust. Hitchens always had a friendly audience where ever he preached, because Christians are commanded to argue fact, not lynch. Evolutionists on the other hand are not constrained by ethics - murdering, lying, cheating, stealing, whatever helps you survive while others unaided die - is condoned by atheism.
David Parker There has never been any sign, throughout history, of any great god looking after everyone. It's all the same boring banal teachings of religious bumpkins trying to get rich off of deluded flocks who want to believe in something.
David Parker Aaaaah Shaddaup. You don't know what you're on about, you stupid git. And, before you start whining that I didn't address you're points, you've written nothing that you didn't pull from deep in the recesses of your posterior and which requires any sort of thoughtful response. To suggest that Hitchen's only spoke before friendly crowds is utter rubbish. He spent the last couple of years of his life deliberately seeking out believers and debating the best and brightest of them... If one can use the terms "best and brightest" to describe religious apologists. That you lie so freely about the basis and nature of the Theory of Evolution and what does or does not constrain atheists is ample evidence of how completely devoid of any ethical constraints you yourself are. You're nothing but a brain washed minion of superstitious zealots, devoid of any intellect, morality and shame. And, you're LOSING the debate. Suck on that before you do us all a big favor and drop dead.
"that after having seen the sort of people they attracted in the comments section as supporters, I was rather glad I was not, as it were 'on their side'." God forbid that you should be offended in a world so completely absent of religious nutcases.
So sorry you never heard a good teacher. There is no excuse, however, for not reading what they had to say. The problem with evolutionists is their ignorance. Except for a very few, Dawkins comes to mind, none are aware of just what it is they claim just popped into existence without any physical cause (to the abysmally ignorant, "chance" is not a force). If you want to pretend you are scientific, here are some scientists who argue from their scholarship in the physical sciences: Creation.com , ICR.org
You, of course, understand it all too well. 'The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.' - Bertrand Russel. Question everything!
AAH Replies I don't think the people who think the sacrifice is symbolic or allegorical are the folks we're worrying about. Your entire statement is nearly pointless. It's like when believers try to say that Jesus was being symbolic when he told followers to bring nonbelievers and kill them at his feet. That's all fine and dandy, but tell that to the people taking it literally and killing people because of it.
AAH Replies And not to mention the absolute laughability of saying that Hitchens appeals to those who "need things laid out for them." That's hilarious! I suppose you're also the believing type to say such gems as: "Atheism takes more faith than god" or "You can't be moral without god"... Seriously, what is scripture if it isn't a doctrine that lays out EVERYTHING for you?? This is beyond hypocrisy...
+UnknownGenius01 : A superior being has the ability to build and create. Man mirrors that everyday. A goo pool turning into a human? That's your better theory? Please enlightened us as to how that works?
+Andulsi : Translation: You don't have a clue what I'm referring to, so you reference a random "science book" where you think the answers you don't have might be. I've read, and written, science books. The answers aren't there, because they don't exist. Life springing from inanimate objects is anti-science. It's a ridiculous concept that only the smallest of minds support. And get a dictionary. You used the term "strawmanning" incorrectly.
Actually what we need are people that will listen to these ideas and be smart enough to understand them. Most of the people in the world today are capable of neither.
@@zer-op2gq the truth is always "loving" whether it is popular or not. Comfortable "little white lies" may seem loving in the short term but they are all injurious eventually.
@Englebert Humperdink I'm not sure you're eager to hear another opinion but your own, Christopher Hitchens, jew, Dawkins, jew, Harris, jew, Maher, jew, Carl Sagan, jew, Isaac Asimov, jew, I hope that caught your attention.
Yes. Everyone who agreed to attack the people of Iraq is a murderer at heart. Of all the peoples to attack, Saddam Hussein and his Ba'ath party were the most dedicated enemies of the Taliban and Al Queda. It is analogous to the US attacking China after Pearl Harbor.
"Compulsory love is another sickly element of Christianity" - classic Hitchens (I miss the guy). In one stroke he adds a little of Old Testament eye-for-an-eye to his acceptance of innate morality and thoroughly rejects forgiveness. Rejects the two seminal catholic doctrines in one sentence: love your neighbor as yourself and that forgiveness is better.
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_Compulsory love is another sickly element of Christianity" - classic Hitchens_ No, just nicked from Nietzsche. Nothing Hitch said was original or right.
@6.25 "What is it like - I've never tried it, I've never been a cleric - what is it like, to LIE to children for a living and tell them that they have an authority that they MUST love! Compulsory love - what a GROTESQUE idea - and be TERRIFIED, all at the same time. What is it like, I'd like to know. " BRILLIANT , just brilliant. And terrifyingly real.
Every time I watch Christopher on CZcams I think about how much he is missed and how I would have loved to hear his views on some of the world events that he sadly did not live long enough to see.
Yes, he died ( see google or other available search engines). At least he could speak english well and could spell all the words correctly in a 17 word sentence. I think Christopher would have found it mildly amusing.
People go to church for the same reasons they go to a tavern: to stupefy themselves, to forget their misery, to imagine themselves, for a few minutes anyway, free and happy - Mikhail Bakunin.
Your comment is akin to what the Communists said about religion (and one of the relatively few things it got right): religion is an opiate for the masses. Some people use drugs and alcohol to try and escape from their earthly problems - others delude and brainwash themselves with religion. They believe in an invisible man in the sky who listens to your prayers and is actively involved in the affairs of mankind.
Such eloquence and imagery, I am impressed. May I offer one of my own in exchange! Prayer: - self-medicating delusional tranquilizer (Category Placebo )
+SeriouslyNotNormal --- That was true with me too. I'd bet for most of us. This quote is so true: “Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.” - Isaac Asimov
Then you were never a Christian. 1 John 2: 18-19 "Little children, it is the last time, and as ye have heard that Antichrist shall come, even now there are many Antichrists: whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us: for if they had been of us, they should have continued with us. But this cometh to pass, that it might appear, that they are not all of us."
Was love involved in Pennsylvania, with all those depraved holy men diddling little boys?? Three hundred priests!! And all covered up by the church higher ups!!! That's love is it?? If you support that, you are as guilty as the weenies in the church.
Of course not. Exploitation is never "love". Furthermore what is your basis for assuming that the Roman Catholic church and hierarchy are even Christian? They still hold to the articles of the Council of Trent in which they to this day deny the complete sufficiency of Jesus's sacrifice of himself for the sins of his elect past, present, and future. Salvation on the basis of the sufficiency of Jesus's propitiatory sacrifice is the very essence of Christianity, it is the Good News - the Gospel. But there is a far more insidious institution that covers up child molestation and protects the molesters: "One study from Hofstra University laments that while there are a number of federally funded national studies on child sexual abuse, there are none that document educator sexual abuse. Gleaning what it can from related studies and databases, this report notes that 9.6 percent of students grades 8 to 11 have reported sexual abuse, and 21 percent of these alleged abuses are by educators. This represents roughly (by my quick math) about 300,000 cases of sexual abuse. Other sources confirm this problem is big-“far more common” than you want to believe. Further, just like the Catholic problem, public schools “continue to conceal the actions of dangerous educators in ways that allow them to stay in the classroom.” Further, one study says that between 1 and 5 percent of teachers sexually harass or abuse students. Given that there are 3.2 million school teachers, those numbers represent between 32,000 and 160,000 predators in the schools. Despite this startling problem being laid before the U.S. Department of Education in a 2004 study entitled, “Educator Sexual Misconduct: A Synthesis of the Literature,” it was related to me that there are no updated stats or studies. Despite the overwhelming indications, there have been no national or even statewide studies of student experiences of educator sexual misconduct. Fifteen years have gone by since this study!" americanvision.org/16723/the-big-double-standard-on-child-sex-abuse-no-one-is-talking-about/
@@mensetens6391 he literally didnt say that. What appalling misrepresentation expected of your kind. Tell me, in the same frame of fallacious logic of yours, that means you have a mentality of a one year old since most religious individuals are religious due to their upbringing? What ridiculous casuistry i say.
@@mensetens6391 No he is telling you that even as a teenager he has better critical thinking skills than you and other religious morons around the world
@@llamaliammm _Tell me, in the same frame of fallacious logic of yours, that means you have a mentality of a one year old since most religious individuals are religious due to their upbringing_ False Equivalence Fallacy. He said: _This is something I've realized since I was about 15_ Not something to boast about since teens are notorious for bad thinking. If he's still thinking that way, then he's still thinking like a 15-year-old. You, on the other hand, have nothing like that to quote from me. You have to invent a comparison, but did it badly since it makes no sense: _that means you have a mentality of a one year old since most religious individuals are religious due to their upbringing?_ Sorry? Did I say that? Did I mention an age? Did you even define 'religion'? No? then how do you know that we are talking about the same thing (hint: you don't)? 'Most people' leaves out some. What of those who became Christians as adults? Or those who became Christians from another religion: czcams.com/video/ckDwCuTFUGg/video.html As it was, I was not raised a Christian, so your 'most people' fails the standard of fact. Sorry, your comparison was weak and mentally flatulent. _What ridiculous casuistry i say_ Then you are wrong again. Better casuistry than your stupidity, but not casuistry, either.
Anyone else learning new words just listening to him ? I need to keep searching for the meaning of words to understand the argument and I thought my English was good ? Lol
I cannot walk on water. I suspect you can't either. In novels, however, anything is possible,. Dead people can rise up out of their graves. People can ride dinosaurs.
And yet they were healthier than we are today. Them lived under conditions that would kill most of the people in the civilized world today. No dead people ever rose up out of their graves: They were raised at the command of God. Only Fred Flintstone and Barney rode dinosaurs. Mankind was created the same day as the land animals which included the dinosaurs. Adam, Eve, and all animals in the land and sea ate plants: There was no death until Adam intentionally and directly sinned against God.
@hatter00 Look in the mirror to see an idiot. It is rare that anyone lives to be 100 these days. Yet is was common for people to live hundreds of years before the flood of Noah's day, Methuselah holding the record at 969. It amazes me how you can believe in evolution - everything (the universe and all living things) - coming from nothing with no cause or purpose. Right. Yet another indoctrinated person.
@@JR-st3mp Genesis 5 "1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; 2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. 3 ¶And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth: 4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: 5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. 6 And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos: * 7 And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters: 8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died. 9 ¶And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan: * 10 And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters: 11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died. 12 ¶And Cainan lived seventy years, and begat Mahalaleel: * 13 And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters: 14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died. 15 ¶And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared: * 16 And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters: 17 And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died. 18 ¶And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch: 19 And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: 20 And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died. 21 ¶And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah: * 22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: 23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: 24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. 25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech: 26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters: * 27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died. 28 ¶And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son: 29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the Lord hath cursed. * 30 And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters: 31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died. 32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth." Sounds pretty healthy to me and no Obamacare either.
@@DavidParker-cf2km You think because I'm an athiest that I like Obamacare? I don't. Obamacare was doomed to failure before it ever began. I don't like socialism either. I'm a capitalist businessman, and I don't believe in fairies, unicorns, or any religion, including Christianity. You don't have to be religious to believe in capitalism. I ask for proof and you read me scriptures. Useless. Professing to me that you believe what is written in the bible is true is only proof that you drink that particular KoolAid. Noah was 500 years old, eh? OK, prove it. If you provide bible verses as proof of your claims, then you are either brainwashed, ignorant, or crazy. Which is it?
The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth - Mikhail Bakunin.
I grew up in a jewish secular household where listening to great music like Bach, Beethoven, brahms, wagner was our "religion". I never heard about this person "dying for my sins" until my teen years. It was an anathema for me and seemed nonsensical. I have never been able to wrap my head around this curious practice. My exposure to judaism was scant but wnat i absorbed was that i am not judged by my thoughts but judged by my actions. I wonder if the reason many famous scientists and great musicians are Jewish, probably of the secular variety is because they're free of this outlandish and, simply put, strange concept of another's ability to absorb my "sin". Less guilt leads to a more freeing mind? I love listening to Hitchens. He is so smart
The Christian God wanted to free us from the Law. He ended up enslaving us more because in Christianity you're guilty of your thoughts and not of your actions. The same with God. You not only have to obey him anymore but you have to Love him. Brainwashing at the core
@The Wizard of Whatever Ok, sounds complex. I'll elaborate: one chance out of two. REALLY -- there being no 3rd option available since the proof rendered by Parmenides in the 5th century BC (sorry about that inconvenient abbreviation) that one either exists or does not exist eternally has never been refuted by the greatest minds that have ever lived from Aristotle to Zarathustra including [but not limited to] Dionysus, Einstein, Tesla, Hume and Kant ...and which assemblage of great minds, unfortunately, does not include one C. Hitchens, however esteemed he may be in your mind.
@The Wizard of Whatever Please help me. I'm seriously confused, it seems. Kindly present the the third option beside : A. Hell exists. or B. Hell does not exist. Thank you. (Kindly omit hypotheticals or we'll be here until we figure out whether or not mice can evolve into baseball bats.)
@The Wizard of Whatever I am not sure I understand your logic, but have no wish to argue. Thank you for your input. Just an aside: if the existence of hell (or heaven, or God for that matter) is a delusion for fools only, then well over 95% of all human beings who've ever lived are fools -- perhaps as high as 99%. I'll say one thing: That makes Hitchens one REALLY SMART COOKIE! ... or one of the most arrogant dumbbells who ever lived.
Morality is an objective criterion for judging whether an action is right and wrong. If there is not a transcendent (i.e. God) source of morality, there is no objective morality. If there is no objective morality, there is no positive law. If there is no positive law, there is no civilization.
Well, there are SO MANY deities to choose from.....where to start... or....perhaps develop a new one and become amazingly rich!! Now there's an idea...!!! Or....Just live and enjoy this life on earth what has been evolving for millions of years... Yes you will be reborn...ashes help the earth if cremated, if buried your remains also helps regenerate the earth...am happy with that as should everyone.
This video should be shown in schools..IF ANY RELIGION IS TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS..THIS BRILLIANT PIECE OF LOGICAL SPEAKING BY HITCHENS...PROVES..ALL GODS ARE MAN MADE MYTHS AND ALL RELIGION IS FASCISM.
Do you know that, if you buy a calendar in Italy, for every day of the year there is a name that happens to be a saint...like, Saint Mark, Saint Simon, etc.. how all this names just happens to be Saint ? 355 + of them ?? what they have done to be Saint ? Christianity is a joke !!
@@ingriddubbel8468 I guess that two with the same name can't be put on a calendar....first in , first served...but i think it's a joke the fact that, a few cardinals " decide " on who can become " saint "... suddenly a halo appears on the head of George....now St. George, what a lot of BS !
Too bad he cannot tell you what he cannot now deny. But, as Jesus said, even if one came back from the dead, Hitchens would not believe - and neither can you.
@@DavidParker-cf2km and why should we think any of this is real? Have you actual evidence of heaven or hell? the bible is just another collection of myths, fabels and stories like any other "holy book"
let me put it this way. I worked with this lady who was a total jesus and God freak, she would say things like bless your heart and bless your day. she was the same kind of lady who would run over a homeless person on the way to church
Tariq Khan, that is why you should fix you eyes upon Jesus, the author and finisher of the Christian faith. A profession of Christianity does not a Christian make. I would estimate that about 99% of the people who profess to be Christian have never even read the Bible much less understand that civilization - science and the advancement of technology - is merely applied Christianity, the rule of law, limited civil government, etc. By the way, have you given your home and all your money to the homeless? Do you now work day and night to feed and house the homeless? Maybe the lady is following your example. Maybe the lady read she is not to cast pearls before swine. Maybe the lady is applying the principle that she is to minister to the congregation before ministering to all consuming godless wastrels. Maybe the lady is not so stupid as to believe that giving money to a drug addict is a good thing. Maybe the homeless were not always homeless but squandered and are still squandering their opportunities in favor of inertia because of the idiots that enable their chosen lifestyle. There is no "helping" someone who is not motivated to help himself.
RELIGION: You are a corruptive force, science! You must be dealt with! SCIENCE: What will you use to cast me aside? RELIGION: You! Furthermore, I'll also use you to support my own righteousness! SCIENCE: ?????
@@r0bw00d Oh, right I forgot the internal combustion engine was invented by the ancient Mandarins, and powered flight first developed in Hong Kong, and Japan was a major exporter of steel Samurai swords. That's why the British had such a difficult time controlling China and the French were barely able to rape Siam for a hundred years. Yep, highly developed Oriental society brought us modern technology. If you really want to know what did, it was the Protestant work ethic, the idea that a man is entitled to the fruits of his labor, that all men are created equal in the sight of God, that truth is absolute, that all are subject to God's law, etc. That is what "made America great". A few decades of Christian freedom in a land unspoiled by satanic notions of "divine right" of kings and ruling classes and permanent lower classes. It was the liberty God said belongs to mankind.
I did that. No you go look up how many people died because of King Richard I. And then look up how many people died because of Benjamin Netanyahu. Then look up how many people died because of EVERY CHRISTIAN American president in the last 60 years. If you're going to cherry-pick, we can all come up with multiple examples of genocides by leaders of EACH religion.
@Daniel De saint malo Ask your church to open the books and see how much is going to charity and the upkeep of the Church and how much goes to enriching the church leadership. Go on I dare you.
@Daniel De saint malo Well if you want to contribute to events run by corrupt people that's your business. Personally, I think you are morally bankrupt to support those people. And what about politicians. For starters I don't choose to pay tax I'm required to by law and I buy nothing from politicians during elections, money does not change hands. So you are talking absolute rubbish. And really politicians are bad so that makes you giving money to your corrupt church ok? Wow, you really have no moral compass, do you.
“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” ..... Mark Twain.
This is at Georgetown University, the Jesuit college in Washington DC, at least 8 years ago. This probably would not have happened when I was a student there in the mid-1960s.
All of the arguments for religion in these posts would have gone up in flames had the writers attempted the same BS debating him. You all sound the same and your justifications are quite literally flawed beyond reason.
czcams.com/video/BqHrpBPdtSI/video.html not all scientists agree with materialism.. don't believe every thing All scientists claim to have proof or no proof of . I was born into a cult religion. Didn't stop me from wanting to know what is the truth
Hitchens was awesome. He was a joy to watch debate and destroy all religious apologists that were foolish enough to take him on. You are greatly missed Hitch, the world is a less colourful place without you in it!
@@user-mr1zs1np7w the point is it's not about God . It's about the case against Darwinism.. and I came across this , I think it's an interesting video . I don't go to church .I came from a cult church growing up .this is not the video on Darwinism lol. Anywys . It's still Interesting however
How can anyone justify following a system of belief concocted several thousand years ago, when people were confused, ignorant and seeking enlightenment for phenomena that were completely bewildering?
'i' missing from Christopher's name in the title :P Love this gentleman. It put a fracture in the world that this wonderful man was lost early to cancer. A mind a man, an intellect, an honesty, a rationality, a logic, a beautiful orator all in one.
@@michaellawlor5625 being a christian and or swallowing the mythical kool aid does not necessarily make you moral or bring one morality. My very own grandfather was the perfect example of this. A man of high morals and integrity as well, that was the "oak tree" of our family. I find your statement ignorant, judgemental and totally lacking truth.
@Marxine St.Arline okay I'll think about it. How did the teachings of the bible teach me the immorality of the bible? I'm opposed to slavery, genocide, and feel females deserve to be treated better then livestock. I assume we both hold these things to be moral, but neither of us arrived at this biblically. Also a side note of China abolishing slavery before Christianity doing so.
I love this guy. With the same crushingly clear logic applied through intellect as Chomsky does in politics, Hitchens simply explains the absurdity of basic tenets of Christianity. He doesn't have to fight it or really refute it; it falls under its own absurdity. And I completely agree; to make all of us explicitly part of the Original Sin is, logically speaking, amoral.
@Sticky Steve Hatred? The guy was vile, what are you talking about. And to the other idiot drinking and watching videos, pull up the Hitchens, George Galloway debate. A Hitch fan would need to be drunk watching that.
@@ericday4505 yes stupid; hatred. You hoped someone watching would become an alcoholic because you "don't like the guy he's watching". Your sad attempt of innocence isn't helping either. If you're just looking for someone to insult you to think you've proven anything I'd be happy to call you a Dipshit
Fiend Matador Slayer of a Thousand Noobs i prayed to god, then to all the gods but they don't answer prayers. well, satan doesn't take souls or give us money so... neither satan or the gods exist. to believe in magic is stupid and a waste of time.
At work yesterday, in the elevator, a woman said to me "as a nurse I live and see the reaults of Adam and Eve's sinner coming true". I laughed so hard. I said to her, "how would two people whether they existed or not, affect your choices and the choices of billions of people today?" And she couldn't answer the question without quoting the bible, and for me is okay, but it doesn't provide an objective truth, instead it shows her belief in belief and nothing more
I wish I had his ability to use words to bamboozle the god squad when they come a knocking on my door. "Fuck off you delusional wankers" is wearing a bit thin I fear.
God damn! I miss Christopher Hitchens, best orator & polymath of modern times, he could have recited the sheep herder written bible and it would have been interesting.
@@kawasakiwhiptwo5821 Oh, I am so relieved, Not many people can take poison like this and do not get sick.. unless they are on it all the time and do not know otherwise..
@@kawasakiwhiptwo5821 Exactly what I wrote: "do not know otherwise?". Any real effort on your side to understand the topics Mr.Hitch. addressed in his propaganda...
Hitchens believes that forgiveness of sins through the sacrifice of another human is utterly immoral. *I agree* Considering that Jesus is the son of God, Christianity isn't about sacrificing humans, it's about God demonstrating his love for his creation and giving us a reason to believe. So simple...I'm surprised Christopher didn't know this. His brother Peter knows it...I guess Peter was the real brains of the family...
@@peli_candude554 I was raised in the superstition called "Christianity." I now identify as an atheist because I bothered to seek. Lo and behold, I found... no god.
just had an interesting discussion on jere. A user asserted evolution is racist. I responded by saying evolution considers humanity as a single species, therefore can t be...I then named prominent scientists I Admire, Krauss, Feynman etc... I was told THEY were racist. When I challenged the user for making such a libellous claim, and to demonstrate Krauss was racist...said user removed all comments...Isn t there a bit in the Bible about not bearing false witness? lol
+Andulsi : I haven't removed any of my comments. That's a baldfaced lie. I never specified any named preacher of yours as racist. That's a boldfaced lie. I know nothing of the people you named. I stated that many of the multiple theories of evolution create a caste system of species by their stated design, which is not politically correct in our current world and could be viewed as outright racist. Get it right. And I'm sure if Krauss or any true intellect responded, he would understand exactly what I'm saying - he's heard is dozens of times before - and would respond with intelligence and insight instead of cursing, vagueness, and hate.
+Andulsi : Demonstrate that Joel Osteen is a stupid, ignorant religious fool as you've stated about all people of faith. And when you try, be prepared for me to ignore your answer, ask you again. And again. And again. See how you enjoy your own behavior.
I never responded to a text about Joel Osteen stating he was such. You answered a text where I mentioned Krauss stating he was racist. I can demonstrate Sye Ten Bruggengate is an ignorant bullying liar if you want... But you re just shifting the onus on me.. which I m not going to let you get away with either.
I can demonstrate Ray comfort is a homophobe. I can demonstrate Terry Scott uses the Bible to justify racism and slavery. I can be very specific about people I ve experience of... But we digress.. demontrate or retract
Damn I wish I could express myself like that man. When somebody questions my atheism I don’t even bother to try. I just say Google Christopher Hitchins. I don’t seem to be able to say more than that I think all religion is horseshit. I miss him.
don't believe in fairy tales, they help children to use their imagination when ther'e sproting. but as they mature, reality becomes more prominent in their lives..
+MIKE MCGILL not 100% right mike, i was deeply religious at one time in my life but things changed over a period of years,. we're all born without a belief in gods, some of us are lured into the religious traps forever, ''but some manage to escape into reality''..
+Pat Brennan I was deeply religious too for a time in my life and back then my problem wasn't that I didn't understand logic. My problem was that I didn't want to hear it if it conflicted with my faith, I ignored it and instead found a passage in the Bible that would reassure me in my faith. So yeah, logic doesn't resonate well with religious people...I know first hand.
Christians refined Greek logic. Greg Bahnsen had a perfect understanding and grasp of logic. Hitchens would never debate Bahnsen. Stein did. That debate with Stein is on CZcams somewhere. Meanwhile, learn: czcams.com/video/zRq6qKp78W8/video.html
Christians accept and develop logic. Science and logic are part of Christianity. Cause and effect, the very basis of science, are Christian concepts as is the notion that what we do today can benefit future generations.
Christians absolutely do understand logic and argue logically. Strict use of logic is part of Christian doctrine. We absolutely believe in cause and effect, the foundation of scientific research. On the other hand, you could not possibly have won a debate with RC Sproul or Greg Bahnsen. You could not possibly win a debate Ravi Zacharias. Christopher Hitchens and Dawkins cannot win a debate with a Christian theologian, because the atheist position is inherently irrational and illogical. You start off with an incoherent argument and all we have to do is expose your lack of logical consistency.
For people who are saying his speech is not about God's existence or non existence its about Christians unethical reasoning. Please read the Bible for yourself dont let someone dictate or reason for you. Im sure Christopher would agree that in order to make a deposition about something you have to do your research and dig into the subject. Im glad to see lots of people who are at least trying to search for the truth. Being in the grey is where it is dangerous.
He mention ethics and morality, but if there's no God then why is their even such a thing as ethics or morality? When you say there's too much evil in this world you assume there's good. When you assume there's good, you assume there's such a thing as a moral law on the basis of which to differentiate between good and evil. But if you assume a moral law, you must posit a moral Law Giver, but that's Who everyone is trying to disprove and not prove. Because if there's no moral Law Giver, there's no moral law. If there's no moral law, there's no good. If there's no good, there's no evil. You are only suppressing the truth people.
There's an obvious answer to your question that I'm surprised you're ignoring. We humans are the creators of morality, or the "moral law givers," if that's what you want to call it. We have invented and applied moral systems for the purpose of mutual benefit.
->organisms->Life->Animals->humans->survival(key!!)->tribalism ->intelligence ->fear->love->emotions.etc.all interlinked which lead to us to identify morality and reason. We recognise negative and positive effects of human behaviour ..our moral compass comes from how we feel about the outcome of a particular action (that causes a feeling we connect with.) In the bible we read “do to others as you would apone yourself” ?? What made you think that was a good moral thing.which it is!.....(don’t say the Holy Spirit ) and I don’t wana sound cold..but I used to be a Christian and my voice of reason made me to believe a lot of the bible is immoral I not saying I’m right and Christians are wrong /immoral but just my opinion /conclusion to the whole thang.
Moral rules are derived from reason, compassion, and empathy. There are certain ways we must behave if we are to live and prosper together in harmony. Human beings have a moral sense with which they derive these rules. When humans develop their various religions, they can then instill these moral rules as commandments in their scriptures and doctrines. No invisible sky dictator needs to be involved.
Two things. First, you've just completely ignored Hitchens' comment about Mt. Sinai. Second, to paraphrase Hitchens in another medium, you strike me as someone who has never read anything of the opposing viewpoint, in this case, secular morality, of which there are plenty of books, articles and videos which explain this.
NONSENSE! This individual really does not know, that THE BIBLE says: CHRIST came to save HIS people from their sins, NOT all people. Most were predestinated to perish.
Ronnie Houser The info I provide is BIBLICAL. Matt 1:21 21 She will give birth to a son. You will name him Jesus.[b] Give him that name because he will save his people from their sins.” Rom. 9:27 27 And Isaiah cries out about Israel: “There are so many people of Israel, they are like the grains of sand by the sea. But only a few of them will be saved. 28 Yes, the Lord will quickly finish judging the people on the earth.” Rom 11:5 5 It is the same now. God has chosen a few people by his grace. 6 And if he chose them by grace, then it is not what they have done that made them his people. If they could be made his people by what they did, his gift of grace would not really be a gift. Is. 10:22 22 Israel, your people are as many as the sands of the sea, but only a few of them will be left to come back to God. But before that happens, your country will be destroyed. God has announced that he will destroy the land. And then justice will come into the land like a river flowing full. 23 The Lord God All-Powerful really will destroy this land.
His people? What you mean the Hebrew? Because in the old Testament God seem to care only about the Hebrew!! If you like you can insult your self by assuming that people need to care what Hebrew mythology apply to us. But live us out of it…We are not Hebrew. Nobody cares what the bible says. The bible also says that we should eat shit and should stone to death homosexuals.
"It undermines our integrity to live and witness in truth..." I love hitch and this is by far one of the most potent things he has ever said. Voltaire also said if you can convince people to believe in absurdities you can convince people to commit atrocities. Words for life.
@@jessebryant9233 Surely it goes without saying. No I dont believe in any Diety. We are all atheists, unless you believe in every God from every religion? Or do you just pick on to which is most convient or one that had been revealed to you in which ever culture you grew up in.
So you are an atheist? Then it goes without saying that your worldview is absurd! And no, one does not have to believe in more than one God to be a theist. Be serious. Besides, your god is Nature... and yourself... _Hey, are you a brain or do you use a brain to think?_ Sadly, you only believe what you believe because of the culture you grew up in. (Or at least, that's what YOU just said!) Hey, keep spouting your literally mindless dogmas! _Preach it Massarotti!_
I swear I learn a new word almost every time I listen to Hitch
a lot of his followers don't know many words, more of them are illiterate all together
Arrogant and wrong.
Religion is slowing us down
What are you trying to get to? your grave? careful, you might get it. Repent while you can.
@@JPX7NGD Yes yes repent or your all-loving God will send you to burn in hell... THAT'S LOVE. Get help freak.
@@JPX7NGD 😂
Excellent speech from Christopher Hitchens. The courage to speak out against religious madness. For centuries all religions of this world have brought suffering on humans.
Courage?
Hitchens always preaches to friendly audiences. He preaches the religion of this world to the vast majority of this world. The overwhelming majority, from the unwashed ignorant to the effete of the atheist snobs, accept him as a high priest of atheism. He fortifies their fervent hope that they won't have to account to God for how they have lived their lives.
No, you have it completely backwards. It takes courage to expose what an unscientific hoax evolution is, to demonstrate that evolution has no cause and effect basis as all things scientific must, to point out that there cannot be "natural selection" of things that don't exist. No, on the contrary, it takes courage to show atheists who violently resist the unwelcome truth that evolution is the religion of the blindly irrational. To attempt to show the truth to an evolutionist is like addressing a rabid lynch mob with a blood lust. Hitchens always had a friendly audience where ever he preached, because Christians are commanded to argue fact, not lynch. Evolutionists on the other hand are not constrained by ethics - murdering, lying, cheating, stealing, whatever helps you survive while others unaided die - is condoned by atheism.
David Parker There has never been any sign, throughout history, of any great god looking after everyone. It's all the same boring banal teachings of religious bumpkins trying to get rich off of deluded flocks who want to believe in something.
David Parker
Aaaaah Shaddaup. You don't know what you're on about, you stupid git.
And, before you start whining that I didn't address you're points, you've written nothing that you didn't pull from deep in the recesses of your posterior and which requires any sort of thoughtful response.
To suggest that Hitchen's only spoke before friendly crowds is utter rubbish. He spent the last couple of years of his life deliberately seeking out believers and debating the best and brightest of them... If one can use the terms "best and brightest" to describe religious apologists.
That you lie so freely about the basis and nature of the Theory of Evolution and what does or does not constrain atheists is ample evidence of how completely devoid of any ethical constraints you yourself are.
You're nothing but a brain washed minion of superstitious zealots, devoid of any intellect, morality and shame.
And, you're LOSING the debate.
Suck on that before you do us all a big favor and drop dead.
"that after having seen the sort of people they attracted in the comments section as supporters, I was rather glad I was not, as it were 'on their side'." God forbid that you should be offended in a world so completely absent of religious nutcases.
So sorry you never heard a good teacher. There is no excuse, however, for not reading what they had to say. The problem with evolutionists is their ignorance. Except for a very few, Dawkins comes to mind, none are aware of just what it is they claim just popped into existence without any physical cause (to the abysmally ignorant, "chance" is not a force). If you want to pretend you are scientific, here are some scientists who argue from their scholarship in the physical sciences:
Creation.com , ICR.org
the doctrine of vicarious redemption by human sacrifice. WOW he was good
What you don't know is what he is saying now.
Here's a hint: Luke 16:19-31
roflmao!
You, of course, understand it all too well. 'The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.' - Bertrand Russel. Question everything!
AAH Replies I don't think the people who think the sacrifice is symbolic or allegorical are the folks we're worrying about. Your entire statement is nearly pointless.
It's like when believers try to say that Jesus was being symbolic when he told followers to bring nonbelievers and kill them at his feet. That's all fine and dandy, but tell that to the people taking it literally and killing people because of it.
AAH Replies And not to mention the absolute laughability of saying that Hitchens appeals to those who "need things laid out for them." That's hilarious! I suppose you're also the believing type to say such gems as: "Atheism takes more faith than god" or "You can't be moral without god"...
Seriously, what is scripture if it isn't a doctrine that lays out EVERYTHING for you?? This is beyond hypocrisy...
What a mind, what a wordsmith, what a man.
I'm your 80 like.
This man is brilliant.
+Dary Matera he s not a scientist...ask a scientist about evolution...they re the ones to talk to...
Dary Matera
Even if that were true, it is still better than anything your fictional character up in the sky did.
+UnknownGenius01 : A superior being has the ability to build and create. Man mirrors that everyday. A goo pool turning into a human? That's your better theory? Please enlightened us as to how that works?
go read a science book and quit strawmanning the theory
+Andulsi : Translation: You don't have a clue what I'm referring to, so you reference a random "science book" where you think the answers you don't have might be. I've read, and written, science books. The answers aren't there, because they don't exist. Life springing from inanimate objects is anti-science. It's a ridiculous concept that only the smallest of minds support. And get a dictionary. You used the term "strawmanning" incorrectly.
We need more like Carlin, Dawkins and Hitchens.
... Dennet ... Barker ... Sweeney ...
@Daniel De saint malo have you listened to Sam Harris?
I'm coming x
Actually what we need are people that will listen to these ideas and be smart enough to understand them. Most of the people in the world today are capable of neither.
@@alesplut6209 Carl Sagan....
I found Christopher Hitchens after he passed away but Goddamn I'm glad I did, though I wish it was otherwise... we miss you, you were one of a kind
did he die or did god kill him!
@@healthyone100, do you know the answer to this question?
Not to worry. If you stay the course you're on, you'll be spending your eternity with him ...and it won't be heavenly.
@@TheAvenstar what a wonderfully loving thing to say.
@@zer-op2gq the truth is always "loving" whether it is popular or not. Comfortable "little white lies" may seem loving in the short term but they are all injurious eventually.
I think i just found my new favorite person
Welcome! I wish I knew about him when he was alive...
A fascinating person
You need to grow more, this man deceived you all the way to the kitchen.
@Englebert Humperdink I'm not sure you're eager to hear another opinion but your own, Christopher Hitchens, jew, Dawkins, jew, Harris, jew, Maher, jew, Carl Sagan, jew, Isaac Asimov, jew, I hope that caught your attention.
@@2wolfsfightinsideyou Are Jews not allowed to have opinions?
World is missing this great man. I cannot watch Hitchens videos without breaking in tears knowing that he is not with us anymore.
Hitchens is shedding a few of his own right now.
I don't miss that pompous ass at all.
Tears? You are an inconsistent materialist atheist.
So sorry
Yes.
Everyone who agreed to attack the people of Iraq is a murderer at heart.
Of all the peoples to attack, Saddam Hussein and his Ba'ath party were the most dedicated enemies of the Taliban and Al Queda.
It is analogous to the US attacking China after Pearl Harbor.
He hated your stupid religion
@@DavidParker-cf2km Hitchens showed you the TRUTH...and that hurts...right..??
"Compulsory love is another sickly element of Christianity" - classic Hitchens (I miss the guy). In one stroke he adds a little of Old Testament eye-for-an-eye to his acceptance of innate morality and thoroughly rejects forgiveness. Rejects the two seminal catholic doctrines in one sentence: love your neighbor as yourself and that forgiveness is better.
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Yet he defends Stalin
_Compulsory love is another sickly element of Christianity" - classic Hitchens_
No, just nicked from Nietzsche. Nothing Hitch said was original or right.
“Celestial Dictatorship” WOW that pretty much sums it up
Do you believe in absolute or relative morality?
Yeah, but this "Celestial Dictatorship" was made up to uphold real religious dictatorship on Earth, which makes it even worse!
@Sticky Steve Where does your objective morality come from?
@Sticky Steve A god is the only way to reach objective morality. If you don't believe in a god, where does your objective morality come from?
@Sticky Steve Please restate the example you are referring to.
@6.25 "What is it like - I've never tried it, I've never been a cleric - what is it like, to LIE to children for a living and tell them that they have an authority that they MUST love! Compulsory love - what a GROTESQUE idea - and be TERRIFIED, all at the same time. What is it like, I'd like to know. "
BRILLIANT , just brilliant. And terrifyingly real.
Every time I watch Christopher on CZcams I think about how much he is missed and how I would have loved to hear his views on some of the world events that he sadly did not live long enough to see.
You mean he is dead ? Thank God for raking him early .......he could have mislead soooo many
Yes, he died ( see google or other available search engines). At least he could speak english well and could spell all the words correctly in a 17 word sentence. I think Christopher would have found it mildly amusing.
@@66Viscount well ..... I get the humour , you don't get the seriousness of the issue , for all we pray.
If you are incapable of knowing that which is moral-
How can you know if your god is?
If i had 50 per cent of this man's skill, intellect, oratory ability, i would be blessed. Love live CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS.
He his dead.
Which of his arguments do you like the most?
People go to church for the same reasons they go to a tavern: to stupefy themselves, to forget their misery, to imagine themselves, for a few minutes anyway, free and happy - Mikhail Bakunin.
Not why I meet with my fellows.
Ah, yes, an anarchist and revolutionary, just the kind of expert we want on any number of subjects.
@castroy64 you've posted the same thing many times. It's you who are obsessed my little Jesus liar.
Your comment is akin to what the Communists said about religion (and one of the relatively few things it got right): religion is an opiate for the masses.
Some people use drugs and alcohol to try and escape from their earthly problems - others delude and brainwash themselves with religion. They believe in an invisible man in the sky who listens to your prayers and is actively involved in the affairs of mankind.
That is deeply offensive to those of us who love the pub
Religion in all its forms has been circling the toilet bowl for centuries...like a maddeningly buoyant turd.
I sometimes tell the religious that they are circling the drain in the shallow end of the gene pool, but I might have to steal some of your material.
Such eloquence and imagery, I am impressed. May I offer one of my own in exchange!
Prayer: - self-medicating delusional tranquilizer (Category Placebo )
IF god exists...it would be proud of Hitchens.
*tears* Oh Hiiiitch! I miss you Hitch! *tears tears*
♥♥♥ >sob
He’s in hell. 😎
@@originalname4972 You xtians are so unlike your god. Figures.
Funnily enough i was a christian until i read the Bible
+SeriouslyNotNormal --- That was true with me too. I'd bet for most of us. This quote is so true:
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.” - Isaac Asimov
Asimov wrote fiction.
You never made it through Leviticus.
Then you were never a Christian.
1 John 2: 18-19 "Little children, it is the last time, and as ye have heard that Antichrist shall come, even now there are many Antichrists: whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us: for if they had been of us, they should have continued with us. But this cometh to pass, that it might appear, that they are not all of us."
The old no true Scotsman fallacy.
But of course, fear is the essence of authority when it comes to religion.
Interesting username lol.
Love is the essence of Christianity.
Well put.
Was love involved in Pennsylvania, with all those depraved holy men diddling little boys?? Three hundred priests!! And all covered up by the church higher ups!!! That's love is it?? If you support that, you are as guilty as the weenies in the church.
Of course not. Exploitation is never "love".
Furthermore what is your basis for assuming that the Roman Catholic church and hierarchy are even Christian? They still hold to the articles of the Council of Trent in which they to this day deny the complete sufficiency of Jesus's sacrifice of himself for the sins of his elect past, present, and future. Salvation on the basis of the sufficiency of Jesus's propitiatory sacrifice is the very essence of Christianity, it is the Good News - the Gospel.
But there is a far more insidious institution that covers up child molestation and protects the molesters:
"One study from Hofstra University laments that while there are a number of federally funded national studies on child sexual abuse, there are none that document educator sexual abuse. Gleaning what it can from related studies and databases, this report notes that 9.6 percent of students grades 8 to 11 have reported sexual abuse, and 21 percent of these alleged abuses are by educators.
This represents roughly (by my quick math) about 300,000 cases of sexual abuse.
Other sources confirm this problem is big-“far more common” than you want to believe. Further, just like the Catholic problem, public schools “continue to conceal the actions of dangerous educators in ways that allow them to stay in the classroom.”
Further, one study says that between 1 and 5 percent of teachers sexually harass or abuse students. Given that there are 3.2 million school teachers, those numbers represent between 32,000 and 160,000 predators in the schools.
Despite this startling problem being laid before the U.S. Department of Education in a 2004 study entitled, “Educator Sexual Misconduct: A Synthesis of the Literature,” it was related to me that there are no updated stats or studies. Despite the overwhelming indications, there have been no national or even statewide studies of student experiences of educator sexual misconduct. Fifteen years have gone by since this study!"
americanvision.org/16723/the-big-double-standard-on-child-sex-abuse-no-one-is-talking-about/
Entirely agreed. This is something I've realized since I was about 15.
So you're telling everybody that you still think like a 15-year-old?
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@@mensetens6391 he literally didnt say that. What appalling misrepresentation expected of your kind. Tell me, in the same frame of fallacious logic of yours, that means you have a mentality of a one year old since most religious individuals are religious due to their upbringing? What ridiculous casuistry i say.
@@mensetens6391 No he is telling you that even as a teenager he has better critical thinking skills than you and other religious morons around the world
@@llamaliammm _Tell me, in the same frame of fallacious logic of yours, that means you have a mentality of a one year old since most religious individuals are religious due to their upbringing_
False Equivalence Fallacy. He said:
_This is something I've realized since I was about 15_
Not something to boast about since teens are notorious for bad thinking. If he's still thinking that way, then he's still thinking like a 15-year-old.
You, on the other hand, have nothing like that to quote from me. You have to invent a comparison, but did it badly since it makes no sense:
_that means you have a mentality of a one year old since most religious individuals are religious due to their upbringing?_
Sorry? Did I say that? Did I mention an age? Did you even define 'religion'? No? then how do you know that we are talking about the same thing (hint: you don't)? 'Most people' leaves out some. What of those who became Christians as adults? Or those who became Christians from another religion:
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As it was, I was not raised a Christian, so your 'most people' fails the standard of fact.
Sorry, your comparison was weak and mentally flatulent.
_What ridiculous casuistry i say_
Then you are wrong again. Better casuistry than your stupidity, but not casuistry, either.
I only wish I was as fucking cool and chill as Hitch when belittling religion.
merry Hitchmas
I love your comment and I don't know why.
Oh, he'd love that!
Anyone else learning new words just listening to him ? I need to keep searching for the meaning of words to understand the argument and I thought my English was good ? Lol
People always say they are praying for me to keep me from going to hell! That is such a waste because there is no hell!
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Ladies and Gentle men, Brothers and sisters... 😃 Such a lovely man. Miss you deeply sir, you are truly amazing.
I cannot walk on water. I suspect you can't either. In novels, however, anything is possible,. Dead people can rise up out of their graves. People can ride dinosaurs.
And yet they were healthier than we are today. Them lived under conditions that would kill most of the people in the civilized world today.
No dead people ever rose up out of their graves: They were raised at the command of God.
Only Fred Flintstone and Barney rode dinosaurs.
Mankind was created the same day as the land animals which included the dinosaurs. Adam, Eve, and all animals in the land and sea ate plants: There was no death until Adam intentionally and directly sinned against God.
@@DavidParker-cf2km Oh yeah? Prove it.
@hatter00 Look in the mirror to see an idiot. It is rare that anyone lives to be 100 these days. Yet is was common for people to live hundreds of years before the flood of Noah's day, Methuselah holding the record at 969.
It amazes me how you can believe in evolution - everything (the universe and all living things) - coming from nothing with no cause or purpose.
Right. Yet another indoctrinated person.
@@JR-st3mp Genesis 5 "1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
3 ¶And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
6 And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos: *
7 And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters:
8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died.
9 ¶And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan: *
10 And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters:
11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died.
12 ¶And Cainan lived seventy years, and begat Mahalaleel: *
13 And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters:
14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died.
15 ¶And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared: *
16 And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters:
17 And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died.
18 ¶And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:
19 And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
20 And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.
21 ¶And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah: *
22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech:
26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters: *
27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.
28 ¶And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:
29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the Lord hath cursed. *
30 And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters:
31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.
32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth."
Sounds pretty healthy to me and no Obamacare either.
@@DavidParker-cf2km You think because I'm an athiest that I like Obamacare? I don't. Obamacare was doomed to failure before it ever began. I don't like socialism either. I'm a capitalist businessman, and I don't believe in fairies, unicorns, or any religion, including Christianity. You don't have to be religious to believe in capitalism.
I ask for proof and you read me scriptures. Useless. Professing to me that you believe what is written in the bible is true is only proof that you drink that particular KoolAid. Noah was 500 years old, eh? OK, prove it. If you provide bible verses as proof of your claims, then you are either brainwashed, ignorant, or crazy. Which is it?
The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth - Mikhail Bakunin.
@castroy64 I love you. I mean I love your one sided argument. I bashed in another comment too. I also included crimes by religion in the name of God.
@castroy64and I love religious assholes trying to distance themselves from their past.
I grew up in a jewish secular household where listening to great music like Bach, Beethoven, brahms, wagner was our "religion". I never heard about this person "dying for my sins" until my teen years. It was an anathema for me and seemed nonsensical. I have never been able to wrap my head around this curious practice. My exposure to judaism was scant but wnat i absorbed was that i am not judged by my thoughts but judged by my actions. I wonder if the reason many famous scientists and great musicians are Jewish, probably of the secular variety is because they're free of this outlandish and, simply put, strange concept of another's ability to absorb my "sin". Less guilt leads to a more freeing mind?
I love listening to Hitchens. He is so smart
The Christian God wanted to free us from the Law. He ended up enslaving us more because in Christianity you're guilty of your thoughts and not of your actions. The same with God. You not only have to obey him anymore but you have to Love him. Brainwashing at the core
You know where this leads us? It means after we die there is nothing. Just like before we were born. I'm OK with that. Are you?
You better hope you're right. But, hey you've got a 50/50 shot. Good luck. If you come up wrong, you get the big OOPS! forever.
@The Wizard of Whatever Ok, sounds complex. I'll elaborate: one chance out of two. REALLY -- there being no 3rd option available since the proof rendered by Parmenides in the 5th century BC (sorry about that inconvenient abbreviation) that one either exists or does not exist eternally has never been refuted by the greatest minds that have ever lived from Aristotle to Zarathustra including [but not limited to] Dionysus, Einstein, Tesla, Hume and Kant ...and which assemblage of great minds, unfortunately, does not include one C. Hitchens, however esteemed he may be in your mind.
@The Wizard of Whatever Please help me. I'm seriously confused, it seems. Kindly present the the third option beside : A. Hell exists. or B. Hell does not exist. Thank you. (Kindly omit hypotheticals or we'll be here until we figure out whether or not mice can evolve into baseball bats.)
@The Wizard of Whatever I am not sure I understand your logic, but have no wish to argue. Thank you for your input. Just an aside: if the existence of hell (or heaven, or God for that matter) is a delusion for fools only, then well over 95% of all human beings who've ever lived are fools -- perhaps as high as 99%. I'll say one thing: That makes Hitchens one REALLY SMART COOKIE! ... or one of the most arrogant dumbbells who ever lived.
@The Wizard of Whatever And a good one to you too, sir, as well as thanks for some respectful dialogue.
There are some really angry Christians around. Can any of you explain to me how Christianity provides morality?
Human sacrifice.
And I am not angry, not now anyway.
Phil C excuse me, was that supposed to explain how christianity provides morality? Human sacrifice! I do hope i misunderstood your comment
They are not actual practicing christians
They all cherry pick to whom their neighbor is
Morality is an objective criterion for judging whether an action is right and wrong. If there is not a transcendent (i.e. God) source of morality, there is no objective morality. If there is no objective morality, there is no positive law. If there is no positive law, there is no civilization.
Well, there are SO MANY deities to choose from.....where to start... or....perhaps develop a new one and become amazingly rich!! Now there's an idea...!!! Or....Just live and enjoy this life on earth what has been evolving for millions of years... Yes you will be reborn...ashes help the earth if cremated, if buried your remains also helps regenerate the earth...am happy with that as should everyone.
Nothing better than a dose of The Hitch on a sunday morning. They sy is clear, the birds are singing, and ll is right in the world.
Do you believe morality is objective or subjective?
This video should be shown in schools..IF ANY RELIGION IS TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS..THIS BRILLIANT PIECE OF LOGICAL SPEAKING BY HITCHENS...PROVES..ALL GODS ARE MAN MADE MYTHS AND ALL RELIGION IS FASCISM.
Agreed
LONG LIVE THE HITCH!!!!!!
Actually he wouldnt want that lol
I absolutely 100% agree!
“For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.”
“My book is true because it says it’s true”
Any Christian who can think, if he had the courage to watch this in its entirety, would leave his church immediately.
Do you know that, if you buy a calendar in Italy, for every day of the year there is a name that happens to be a saint...like, Saint Mark, Saint Simon, etc.. how all this names just happens to be Saint ? 355 + of them ?? what they have done to be Saint ? Christianity is a joke !!
Look it up. There have to be criteria to cannonize people. In not saying the reasons are logical but there is a process for canonization.
@@ingriddubbel8468 I guess that two with the same name can't be put on a calendar....first in , first served...but i think it's a joke the fact that, a few cardinals " decide " on who can become " saint "... suddenly a halo appears on the head of George....now St. George, what a lot of BS !
Ingrid Dubbel
Yes but their canonization process is erroneous, and beatifies people who are clearly not great humans.
Usually they were noble and rich people who gave money to the pope or built churches.
Thank you Christopher Hitchens for eloquently putting into words, what I have instinctively known my whole life.
A shame he died so early but his ideas and ideals never died, they'll live on in us
Too bad he cannot tell you what he cannot now deny. But, as Jesus said, even if one came back from the dead, Hitchens would not believe - and neither can you.
@@DavidParker-cf2km he cannot tell anyone anything because he's dead, and who knows which ancient bronceage mythology divinity he's now with if at all
@@justtheaverageone3840 No shit Sherlock, all he can do is fry and regret how he spent his life.
By the way, what is a "bronceage mythology divinity"?
@@DavidParker-cf2km and why should we think any of this is real? Have you actual evidence of heaven or hell?
the bible is just another collection of myths, fabels and stories like any other "holy book"
Christopher Hitchens, boy have you got that right.
let me put it this way. I worked with this lady who was a total jesus and God freak, she would say things like bless your heart and bless your day.
she was the same kind of lady who would run over a homeless person on the way to church
Tariq Khan, that is why you should fix you eyes upon Jesus, the author and finisher of the Christian faith.
A profession of Christianity does not a Christian make. I would estimate that about 99% of the people who profess to be Christian have never even read the Bible much less understand that civilization - science and the advancement of technology - is merely applied Christianity, the rule of law, limited civil government, etc.
By the way, have you given your home and all your money to the homeless? Do you now work day and night to feed and house the homeless?
Maybe the lady is following your example.
Maybe the lady read she is not to cast pearls before swine.
Maybe the lady is applying the principle that she is to minister to the congregation before ministering to all consuming godless wastrels.
Maybe the lady is not so stupid as to believe that giving money to a drug addict is a good thing.
Maybe the homeless were not always homeless but squandered and are still squandering their opportunities in favor of inertia because of the idiots that enable their chosen lifestyle. There is no "helping" someone who is not motivated to help himself.
RELIGION: You are a corruptive force, science! You must be dealt with!
SCIENCE: What will you use to cast me aside?
RELIGION: You! Furthermore, I'll also use you to support my own righteousness!
SCIENCE: ?????
@@r0bw00d Christianity provided the foundation of logic and stability that made research possible and worthwhile.
Tell that to the Orientals.
@@r0bw00d Oh, right I forgot the internal combustion engine was invented by the ancient Mandarins, and powered flight first developed in Hong Kong, and Japan was a major exporter of steel Samurai swords. That's why the British had such a difficult time controlling China and the French were barely able to rape Siam for a hundred years.
Yep, highly developed Oriental society brought us modern technology. If you really want to know what did, it was the Protestant work ethic, the idea that a man is entitled to the fruits of his labor, that all men are created equal in the sight of God, that truth is absolute, that all are subject to God's law, etc. That is what "made America great". A few decades of Christian freedom in a land unspoiled by satanic notions of "divine right" of kings and ruling classes and permanent lower classes. It was the liberty God said belongs to mankind.
The ancient Chinese had a wonderful society that didnt require the biblical god to give them good morals.
I suggest you read up on the Yangshao Culture of the Yellow River Valley as well as on Taoism, Confucianism, and Buddhism.
ozskipper that is a perfect example
I did that. No you go look up how many people died because of King Richard I. And then look up how many people died because of Benjamin Netanyahu. Then look up how many people died because of EVERY CHRISTIAN American president in the last 60 years. If you're going to cherry-pick, we can all come up with multiple examples of genocides by leaders of EACH religion.
says the wall where they buried 400,000 slaves ..uh huh
@@kantraxoikol6914 The bible had slaves too. Duh..
If god is so powerful, why do Christians keep giving him money?
how else would they settle the rape charges?
"He needs money. He always needs Money. He is all-wise all perfect, all-knowing, somehow just can't handle money."
- George Carlin.
@Daniel De saint malo Ask your church to open the books and see how much is going to charity and the upkeep of the Church and how much goes to enriching the church leadership. Go on I dare you.
@Daniel De saint malo well you keep funding corruption. Your God would be so proud.
@Daniel De saint malo Well if you want to contribute to events run by corrupt people that's your business. Personally, I think you are morally bankrupt to support those people.
And what about politicians. For starters I don't choose to pay tax I'm required to by law and I buy nothing from politicians during elections, money does not change hands. So you are talking absolute rubbish.
And really politicians are bad so that makes you giving money to your corrupt church ok? Wow, you really have no moral compass, do you.
Until people get over the fear of death,religion will remain unfortunately. RIP Hitch.
Actually, I would be scared as HELL (no pun intended) about death if I were an atheist.
“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” ..... Mark Twain.
This is at Georgetown University, the Jesuit college in Washington DC, at least 8 years ago. This probably would not have happened when I was a student there in the mid-1960s.
It has to be more than 8 years ago cuz Hitchens has been dead for almost 10 years now and your comment was posted a month ago.
All of the arguments for religion in these posts would have gone up in flames had the writers attempted the same BS debating him. You all sound the same and your justifications are quite literally flawed beyond reason.
for example...?
czcams.com/video/BqHrpBPdtSI/video.html not all scientists agree with materialism.. don't believe every thing All scientists claim to have proof or no proof of . I was born into a cult religion. Didn't stop me from wanting to know what is the truth
Hitchens was awesome. He was a joy to watch debate and destroy all religious apologists that were foolish enough to take him on.
You are greatly missed Hitch, the world is a less colourful place without you in it!
After the video ended, I got an ad for the Israeli institute of biblical studies...........CZcams now does irony!
Christopher Hitchens was probably one of the best debaters in modern history. RIP Legend
Im.....speechless.....
Beautiful....
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@@user-pv7pk5nh3k what was the point of that.
If you are trying to tell me god exists then im not even gonna waste my time on this.
@@user-mr1zs1np7w the point is it's not about God . It's about the case against Darwinism.. and I came across this , I think it's an interesting video . I don't go to church .I came from a cult church growing up .this is not the video on Darwinism lol. Anywys . It's still Interesting however
I miss him. Damn, i truly miss him.
How can anyone justify following a system of belief concocted several thousand years ago, when people were confused, ignorant and seeking enlightenment for phenomena that were completely bewildering?
Finally now I can refute the "Christian ethics" argument. Thank you Hitch.
'i' missing from Christopher's name in the title :P
Love this gentleman. It put a fracture in the world that this wonderful man was lost early to cancer.
A mind a man, an intellect, an honesty, a rationality, a logic, a beautiful orator all in one.
had to give that thumbnail a click
favorite human
Great talker, but he is way off. Where does he get his morals from?
@@michaellawlor5625 being a christian and or swallowing the mythical kool aid does not necessarily make you moral or bring one morality.
My very own grandfather was the perfect example of this. A man of high morals and integrity as well, that was the "oak tree" of our family.
I find your statement ignorant, judgemental and totally lacking truth.
@Marxine St.Arline okay I'll think about it. How did the teachings of the bible teach me the immorality of the bible? I'm opposed to slavery, genocide, and feel females deserve to be treated better then livestock. I assume we both hold these things to be moral, but neither of us arrived at this biblically. Also a side note of China abolishing slavery before Christianity doing so.
I love this guy. With the same crushingly clear logic applied through intellect as Chomsky does in politics, Hitchens simply explains the absurdity of basic tenets of Christianity. He doesn't have to fight it or really refute it; it falls under its own absurdity. And I completely agree; to make all of us explicitly part of the Original Sin is, logically speaking, amoral.
" Those that can make you believe absurdity , can make you commit atrocities ".a quote I believe attributed to Voltaire
Refreshing clarity of thought, here.
Having a drink listing to all my fav hitch Videos. which ones all of them
Good I hope you become an alcoholic..
@@ericday4505 no chance of that because i only drink couple times a month
@Sticky Steve Hatred? The guy was vile, what are you talking about. And to the other idiot drinking and watching videos, pull up the Hitchens, George Galloway debate. A Hitch fan would need to be drunk watching that.
@@ericday4505 yes stupid; hatred. You hoped someone watching would become an alcoholic because you "don't like the guy he's watching". Your sad attempt of innocence isn't helping either. If you're just looking for someone to insult you to think you've proven anything I'd be happy to call you a Dipshit
yesterday i offered my soul to satan so he could make me rich. i'm still poor as a rat.
At least a rat has some form of common decensy.
So you're already better then a Christian. LEL.
Fiend Matador Slayer of a Thousand Noobs i prayed to god, then to all the gods but they don't answer prayers. well, satan doesn't take souls or give us money so... neither satan or the gods exist. to believe in magic is stupid and a waste of time.
Offer him some chocolate chip cookies, worked for me.
outsideworld76 I will try XD
Julia skidel Try praying to be transformed into a Meerkat ,those things are cute as all get out and really cool...Surely a God couldn't resist that.
At work yesterday, in the elevator, a woman said to me "as a nurse I live and see the reaults of Adam and Eve's sinner coming true". I laughed so hard. I said to her, "how would two people whether they existed or not, affect your choices and the choices of billions of people today?" And she couldn't answer the question without quoting the bible, and for me is okay, but it doesn't provide an objective truth, instead it shows her belief in belief and nothing more
I wish I had his ability to use words to bamboozle the god squad when they come a knocking on my door. "Fuck off you delusional wankers" is wearing a bit thin I fear.
He caters to ignorants..the less you know the bigger the news is.... And there is a big $ concerted effort to keep you this way...
You can never go wrong with Jesus Christ. Lord and Saviour of my soul. 👍
what about the hells of all the religions you dont believe in?
Trust Jesus. He has informed us about the real hell.
THE SPAGHETTI MONSTER! LORD OF PASTA AND ZESTY ITALIAN SAUCE
Wow. Hitchens at his best
He is in fact talking about Catholicism.
Not very well.
Summed up very nicely Christopher. R.I.P
I would have liked to have a beer with this man. Of course, no topic would be debated.
God creates evil. Apparently. Isaiah 45:7
God damn! I miss Christopher Hitchens, best orator & polymath of modern times, he could have recited the sheep herder written bible and it would have been interesting.
Beautifully explained.
Monotheism is celestial totalitarianism.
I love how pissed and butthurt believers get.
The truth hurts,and so do Hitchslaps.
Poor you...
@@Matt6X no,I'm good Matt,thanks.
@@kawasakiwhiptwo5821 Oh, I am so relieved, Not many people can take poison like this and do not get sick.. unless they are on it all the time and do not know otherwise..
@@Matt6X let's start at YOUR beginning Matt. what was your "poor you" comment supposed to mean to me?
@@kawasakiwhiptwo5821 Exactly what I wrote: "do not know otherwise?". Any real effort on your side to understand the topics Mr.Hitch. addressed in his propaganda...
Hitchens believes that forgiveness of sins through the sacrifice of another human is utterly immoral.
*I agree*
Considering that Jesus is the son of God, Christianity isn't about sacrificing humans, it's about God demonstrating his love for his creation and giving us a reason to believe.
So simple...I'm surprised Christopher didn't know this. His brother Peter knows it...I guess Peter was the real brains of the family...
Only if you believe 2 things...
1.) That Jesus *wasn't* human.
2.) That he actually ever existed in the first place.
@@riffgroove
Of course...which is where the questioning of his existence and divinity become the main focus of those who do not believe.
@@peli_candude554 I was raised in the superstition called "Christianity." I now identify as an atheist because I bothered to seek. Lo and behold, I found... no god.
@@caseysammich2878
Did you look under the bed or in the closet? What did you find there? Who did you find there?
Have you looked recently?
@@peli_candude554 Spoiler alert. No god or jesus. I know I'm ruining various plots with one response, but the truth isn't always going to be insane.
I can only hope that my children can shake off the chains and lies of religious belief systems. Or we may in fact be living in the end of days...
Religion is not moral nor immoral. Religion is a method of imposing one's morals on a group of followers through fear.
He always calls everyone his brothers and sisters🤗🕺🏼💃
just had an interesting discussion on jere. A user asserted evolution is racist. I responded by saying evolution considers humanity as a single species, therefore can t be...I then named prominent scientists I Admire, Krauss, Feynman etc... I was told THEY were racist. When I challenged the user for making such a libellous claim, and to demonstrate Krauss was racist...said user removed all comments...Isn t there a bit in the Bible about not bearing false witness? lol
user name is Dary Matera should professor Krauss wish to have a stern word.
+Andulsi : I haven't removed any of my comments. That's a baldfaced lie. I never specified any named preacher of yours as racist. That's a boldfaced lie. I know nothing of the people you named. I stated that many of the multiple theories of evolution create a caste system of species by their stated design, which is not politically correct in our current world and could be viewed as outright racist. Get it right. And I'm sure if Krauss or any true intellect responded, he would understand exactly what I'm saying - he's heard is dozens of times before - and would respond with intelligence and insight instead of cursing, vagueness, and hate.
+Andulsi : Demonstrate that Joel Osteen is a stupid, ignorant religious fool as you've stated about all people of faith. And when you try, be prepared for me to ignore your answer, ask you again. And again. And again. See how you enjoy your own behavior.
I never responded to a text about Joel Osteen stating he was such. You answered a text where I mentioned Krauss stating he was racist. I can demonstrate Sye Ten Bruggengate is an ignorant bullying liar if you want...
But you re just shifting the onus on me.. which I m not going to let you get away with either.
I can demonstrate Ray comfort is a homophobe. I can demonstrate Terry Scott uses the Bible to justify racism and slavery. I can be very specific about people I ve experience of...
But we digress.. demontrate or retract
Only the good die young... he is dearly missed :(
Damn I wish I could express myself like that man. When somebody questions my atheism I don’t even bother to try. I just say Google Christopher Hitchins. I don’t seem to be able to say more than that I think all religion is horseshit. I miss him.
don't believe in fairy tales, they help children to use their imagination when ther'e sproting. but as they mature, reality becomes more prominent in their lives..
+Pat Brennan Why are you watching this..?
@@Stephenparisi1
I don't think you have a point.
The religious did not understand logic .
+MIKE MCGILL not 100% right mike, i was deeply religious at one time in my life but things changed over a period of years,. we're all born without a belief in gods, some of us are lured into the religious traps forever, ''but some manage to escape into reality''..
+Pat Brennan I was deeply religious too for a time in my life and back then my problem wasn't that I didn't understand logic. My problem was that I didn't want to hear it if it conflicted with my faith, I ignored it and instead found a passage in the Bible that would reassure me in my faith. So yeah, logic doesn't resonate well with religious people...I know first hand.
Christians refined Greek logic.
Greg Bahnsen had a perfect understanding and grasp of logic.
Hitchens would never debate Bahnsen.
Stein did. That debate with Stein is on CZcams somewhere. Meanwhile, learn:
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Christians accept and develop logic. Science and logic are part of Christianity. Cause and effect, the very basis of science, are Christian concepts as is the notion that what we do today can benefit future generations.
Christians absolutely do understand logic and argue logically. Strict use of logic is part of Christian doctrine. We absolutely believe in cause and effect, the foundation of scientific research.
On the other hand, you could not possibly have won a debate with RC Sproul or Greg Bahnsen. You could not possibly win a debate Ravi Zacharias. Christopher Hitchens and Dawkins cannot win a debate with a Christian theologian, because the atheist position is inherently irrational and illogical. You start off with an incoherent argument and all we have to do is expose your lack of logical consistency.
..hitch...i miss your erudite, passionate skills at the pulpit, and your amazing sense of humor
I believe that the world can all agree on not hurting each other ever some day, some day.
This man is BRILLIANT! We should have people like this in politics. This guy is thinking with his own head - that is rare today!
He sure fooled you. My guess is that didn't take brilliance, it merely took telling uncritical you what you wanted to hear.
Whew. Yet another scathing rebuke of the sanctimonious, self-righteous, faux-morality of Christianity and all the world's religions.
For people who are saying his speech is not about God's existence or non existence its about Christians unethical reasoning. Please read the Bible for yourself dont let someone dictate or reason for you. Im sure Christopher would agree that in order to make a deposition about something you have to do your research and dig into the subject. Im glad to see lots of people who are at least trying to search for the truth. Being in the grey is where it is dangerous.
The world needs less Gods, and more Hitchens.
how can you hate a god you don't believe in the first place. I don't believe in fairies. I can't. I don't believe in them. boom.
He mention ethics and morality, but if there's no God then why is their even such a thing as ethics or morality? When you say there's too much evil in this world you assume there's good. When you assume there's good, you assume there's such a thing as a moral law on the basis of which to differentiate between good and evil. But if you assume a moral law, you must posit a moral Law Giver, but that's Who everyone is trying to disprove and not prove. Because if there's no moral Law Giver, there's no moral law. If there's no moral law, there's no good. If there's no good, there's no evil. You are only suppressing the truth people.
There's an obvious answer to your question that I'm surprised you're ignoring. We humans are the creators of morality, or the "moral law givers," if that's what you want to call it. We have invented and applied moral systems for the purpose of mutual benefit.
->organisms->Life->Animals->humans->survival(key!!)->tribalism ->intelligence ->fear->love->emotions.etc.all interlinked which lead to us to identify morality and reason.
We recognise negative and positive effects of human behaviour ..our moral compass comes from how we feel about the outcome of a particular action (that causes a feeling we connect with.)
In the bible we read “do to others as you would apone yourself” ?? What made you think that was a good moral thing.which it is!.....(don’t say the Holy Spirit ) and I don’t wana sound cold..but
I used to be a Christian and my voice of reason made me to believe a lot of the bible is immoral
I not saying I’m right and Christians are wrong /immoral but just my opinion /conclusion to the whole thang.
Moral rules are derived from reason, compassion, and empathy. There are certain ways we must behave if we are to live and prosper together in harmony. Human beings have a moral sense with which they derive these rules. When humans develop their various religions, they can then instill these moral rules as commandments in their scriptures and doctrines. No invisible sky dictator needs to be involved.
Two things. First, you've just completely ignored Hitchens' comment about Mt. Sinai. Second, to paraphrase Hitchens in another medium, you strike me as someone who has never read anything of the opposing viewpoint, in this case, secular morality, of which there are plenty of books, articles and videos which explain this.
@@TBrewer64 How did we get that moral sense? Not trying to be condescending or anything like that, truly wondering.
Absolutely amazing.
it's literally brilliant. Incredible
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NONSENSE! This individual really does not know, that THE BIBLE says: CHRIST came to save HIS people from their sins, NOT all people. Most were predestinated to perish.
Ronnie Houser The info I provide is BIBLICAL.
Matt 1:21
21 She will give birth to a son. You will name him Jesus.[b] Give him that name because he will save his people from their sins.”
Rom. 9:27
27 And Isaiah cries out about Israel:
“There are so many people of Israel,
they are like the grains of sand by the sea.
But only a few of them will be saved.
28 Yes, the Lord will quickly finish judging the people on the earth.”
Rom 11:5
5 It is the same now. God has chosen a few people by his grace. 6 And if he chose them by grace, then it is not what they have done that made them his people. If they could be made his people by what they did, his gift of grace would not really be a gift.
Is. 10:22
22 Israel, your people are as many as the sands of the sea, but only a few of them will be left to come back to God. But before that happens, your country will be destroyed. God has announced that he will destroy the land. And then justice will come into the land like a river flowing full. 23 The Lord God All-Powerful really will destroy this land.
His or people or all people doesn't change his point.
Bucketheadhead Then he should not be talking about Christianity as if he knew what he was talking about.
Aidan Gibson What double?! I DO NOT care what views denominations have, since I DO NOT belong to them. THE BIBLE says, that YHWH predestinated ALL.
His people? What you mean the Hebrew? Because in the old Testament God seem to care only about the Hebrew!!
If you like you can insult your self by assuming that people need to care what Hebrew mythology apply to us.
But live us out of it…We are not Hebrew.
Nobody cares what the bible says. The bible also says that we should eat shit and should stone to death homosexuals.
I miss his speeches/debates.
We rarely hear any of Hitchens' addresses on TV. I wonder why not.
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What a shame that such a brilliant man as Mr. Hitchens passed away so young. He is greatly missed by Athiests such as myself.
"It undermines our integrity to live and witness in truth..." I love hitch and this is by far one of the most potent things he has ever said. Voltaire also said if you can convince people to believe in absurdities you can convince people to commit atrocities. Words for life.
Atheism is absurd. Are you a believer... or do you take the absurd position of 'lacking belief'... Or do you have some other worldview?
@@jessebryant9233 My view is based I truths, there is nothing absurd about facts and reality.
@@nassa4077
So you're not an atheist then? You're being kind of cryptic...
@@jessebryant9233 Surely it goes without saying. No I dont believe in any Diety. We are all atheists, unless you believe in every God from every religion? Or do you just pick on to which is most convient or one that had been revealed to you in which ever culture you grew up in.
So you are an atheist? Then it goes without saying that your worldview is absurd! And no, one does not have to believe in more than one God to be a theist. Be serious. Besides, your god is Nature... and yourself... _Hey, are you a brain or do you use a brain to think?_ Sadly, you only believe what you believe because of the culture you grew up in. (Or at least, that's what YOU just said!) Hey, keep spouting your literally mindless dogmas! _Preach it Massarotti!_
LOL the advert I got on this video was for learning about Judaism.
For a humble, god-fearing Christian this man is an impertinence.