The Most Beautiful Goths Game?

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  • čas přidán 5. 10. 2020
  • (Host of the tournament is Membtv: / membtv )
    TheMax is one of the most interesting pro players in AoE2, and Riut matches up against him here in a really unique civ matchup. Gold positions, time windows and cubes... the game sense here is just off the charts!
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Komentáře • 195

  • @martinkrauser4029
    @martinkrauser4029 Před 3 lety +330

    7:45 "You guys know how I feel about forward archery ranges."
    Yep! We know the drill. Join pro tournament, find good empty island, build three.

  • @Cipher71
    @Cipher71 Před 3 lety +75

    Most players: *spend 3 hours constructing their town based solely on aesthetics*
    Competitive players: *make the trees smaller and use a map grid to avoid silly mistakes*
    TheMax: *C U B E S*

  • @TheDanzielDK
    @TheDanzielDK Před 3 lety +56

    3:06 The video he's talking about is Low Elo Legends #20, in case anyone is wondering.

  • @westtex3675
    @westtex3675 Před 3 lety +92

    Cube mod should also make the units look like cubes, scooting across the map.

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap Před 3 lety +11

      yes cubes with military designations for the different units like in hearts of iron

    • @ps2cscpp
      @ps2cscpp Před 3 lety +2

      there is one but it is impossible to recognize unit types, so impossible to use properly

  • @tamaskosa3283
    @tamaskosa3283 Před 3 lety +14

    TheMax playing is like Neo at the end of Matrix when he finally realises he is the chosen one and sees everything in numbers and letters

  • @RennieAsh
    @RennieAsh Před 3 lety +70

    Before I watch this later, I goth to say : t90 is obsessed with goths right now, ever since the 1 minute forward barracks strat

  • @molloz98
    @molloz98 Před 3 lety +40

    From now on I'm a big TheMax fan. Dude suffers through an ugly ass age of empires just so we can enjoy the beauty of it. What a hero!

  • @filadelfozuniga3411
    @filadelfozuniga3411 Před 3 lety +52

    Hey t90, you should make a 2nd channel to upload full series, it would be like an archival where u find sets instead of digging on twitch or going to unlisted vids.

  • @mrlongines3888
    @mrlongines3888 Před 3 lety +282

    If you'd have to pick between your girlfriend and Age of Empires, what civ would you play as?

    • @vietrumpet123
      @vietrumpet123 Před 3 lety +47

      The real win is having a girlfriend who plays AoE too. 😎😎

    • @yob5591
      @yob5591 Před 3 lety +10

      Username just about fits

    • @vietrumpet123
      @vietrumpet123 Před 3 lety +1

      yob lol, no shame in admitting it. We’re all pretty whipped for T90. 😂😂

    • @zeflute4586
      @zeflute4586 Před 3 lety +14

      I'll go Frank, cause it's the most important thing in a relationship.

    • @jcarteaga5296
      @jcarteaga5296 Před 3 lety +7

      @@vietrumpet123 Got my wife into AOE2, I see that as an absolute win!

  • @SeaBomb
    @SeaBomb Před 3 lety +39

    Theman, themyth, themax

  • @bohemiancasanova5538
    @bohemiancasanova5538 Před 3 lety +12

    "Max makes AoE beautiful" - T90
    Couldn't agree more. He is by far my favorite player. Gonna be rooting for him to win KOTD!! It's not gonna be easy but if he plays up to his potential he can do it

    • @erickcher
      @erickcher Před 3 lety

      TheMax and Liereyy make it beautiful; Vinchester and Mr_Yo make it funny.

    • @devinosland359
      @devinosland359 Před 3 lety +1

      Just dont look at his screen... then its not so beautiful....

  • @PriyamvadRai
    @PriyamvadRai Před 3 lety +45

    I goth to watch this one as soon as it goth uploaded

  • @Reluxthelegend
    @Reluxthelegend Před 3 lety +10

    32:00 Huskarls already do bonus damage against eagles no reason to tech into champions

  • @arjunsatheesh7609
    @arjunsatheesh7609 Před 3 lety +2

    36:01 T90 places down some farms for the TheMax at the bottom, that was the real 200 IQ play here.

  • @lalolanda8458
    @lalolanda8458 Před 3 lety +4

    I believe that the most beautiful strategic minds (please, those unknown strategists who deserve this title as well, forgive the ignorance) of AoE2 are Tatoh and TheMax. Watching them play makes me happy and grateful. Great upload, T90.
    Edit: RiuT played well too, he deserves props!!

  • @PoonDestruction
    @PoonDestruction Před 3 lety +12

    I would consider free loom an eco upgrade, since the TC can create an extra villager instead... then maybe an earlier than usual feudal age (in which you will have an extra 50 gold of wiggle room).

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir Před 3 lety +2

      It depends on your level. Most higher level players don't get Loom when they don't need to, so it may often be saved for feudal or even later depending on the situation. It only really matters if you consistently get loom in early dark age, so for low elo players it can be considered an eco upgrade, but for higher elo players not so much.

    • @TheRealOnlineAcc
      @TheRealOnlineAcc Před 3 lety +7

      @@Real_MisterSir what are you talking? Low elos don't get loom, pro get loom before going up to feudal in open maps

    • @lukasg4807
      @lukasg4807 Před 3 lety

      Yes but it's a small one.

    • @Halvtooth
      @Halvtooth Před 3 lety +1

      I would say the bigger "pseudo eco bonus" for goth is their infantry discount, if you manage to force fights were you trade fairly equal you will probably save more resources per fight.

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheRealOnlineAcc when I say "low elo" I mean the people who know the game decently well but just aren't good enough to climb. These are the guys who always get loom early because they don't trust their boar lure, or they don't wanna risk dying to early aggression, etc. High elo players can deal with this and rarely get early loom exactly because its an economic setback when you are in the early stage of dark age. Basically, to most high elo players loom has to be forced, and is not a standard procedure early on. The typical time they get loom, is often at a point where +-1 villager doesn't make as big of an economic difference compared to when you are below 10-15 vils.

  • @MrRNN3
    @MrRNN3 Před 3 lety +11

    Do "Darkness Everything" where unites don't create a sight line and you need to rely on buildings to see.

  • @row0111
    @row0111 Před 3 lety +4

    " A goat's going to be stolen, big deal."
    - T90 2020

  • @bryan-zamanizulu-stone3911

    Great content T90! Love your CZcams content! I’ve improved my game massively though watching your informative videos!

  • @theaterobscura
    @theaterobscura Před 3 lety +2

    That Max impression was amazing.

  • @ZacklFair
    @ZacklFair Před 2 lety +1

    Max needs a Mod that shows which upgrades have been made on each building, so he stops forgetting it.

    • @krystofcisar469
      @krystofcisar469 Před rokem

      little research toolbar on the top (like that one in capture age) would be sometimes super helpful.

  • @coddmodd
    @coddmodd Před 3 lety +1

    what a good game, i remember seeing this game in the 90's when i wasnt even 10 yet. though i played much or ever but id like too

  • @bizzhat
    @bizzhat Před 3 lety +9

    I'm almost certain that block mod saves a lot of RAM - any specs on it? perhaps I could even play the de version with my 2 Gigs ?!
    also, knowing TheMax plays with blobs, wouldnt spamming palisades be like... evil ;D

  • @madvtecyo546
    @madvtecyo546 Před 2 lety

    27:10 “get cubed” lol

  • @TEHBILB
    @TEHBILB Před 3 lety

    22:59 great skirm on camel micro

  • @debug7
    @debug7 Před 3 lety +1

    such a great game from both players! :3

  • @Jannesverige
    @Jannesverige Před 3 lety +1

    Had been fun to see a top tourney, where the opponent chooses the civraft for the other.

  • @SilverFan21k
    @SilverFan21k Před 2 měsíci +1

    Excellent win by Max

  • @Renny_7777
    @Renny_7777 Před 3 lety +1

    I thought this sounded familiar, I was there on the steam. Great game!

  • @andrewwang8021
    @andrewwang8021 Před 3 lety +1

    Oh God, this was intense!

  • @Thirsty_Fox
    @Thirsty_Fox Před 3 lety +2

    I wonder if getting Ballistics sooner might've tipped the balance enough.

  • @ChocolateMilkCultLeader
    @ChocolateMilkCultLeader Před 3 lety +1

    Mayan 2 Handed Swords do well against Goths for defense. Once randomed Mayans vs Goths in DM and won using 2HS as defense (w/ plumes+Halbs) and raiding with Eagles

  • @ANO-.-NYM
    @ANO-.-NYM Před 3 lety

    I love watching high-level players verse each other. So satisfying to watch

    • @TeeKayFourTwoOnebeta
      @TeeKayFourTwoOnebeta Před 3 lety +1

      You cannot "verse" someone. The word you're mangling is "versus", which means 'against' and is not a verb.

  • @rundair
    @rundair Před 3 lety

    40:18 I cant find the TheMax vs Tatoh game on your channel you talked about here

  • @nyoodmono4681
    @nyoodmono4681 Před rokem

    Do you know the cartoon 'The Max'? Was one of those fascinating wierd cartoons aired on MTV.

  • @d1ks4u
    @d1ks4u Před 3 lety +1

    this was incredible .... max is too good

  • @vietrumpet123
    @vietrumpet123 Před 3 lety +4

    New fan of high level AoE games here! Can someone explain to me whose face is on the castles and why it’s on the castle? 😂😂

    • @yago93100
      @yago93100 Před 3 lety +2

      "Daut castle"... search the hidden cup Daut showcase

  • @n.e.g4865
    @n.e.g4865 Před 3 lety +1

    There is also a vid of theviper playing as a fake themax against hera using cube mod

  • @igelkotte
    @igelkotte Před 3 lety +1

    Damn this was a good game to watch as a "noob". Perfection from both sides. You can learn so much

    • @krystofcisar469
      @krystofcisar469 Před rokem +1

      You can see everything that you´ll forgot to do in your ranked match :D

  • @Shlonzs
    @Shlonzs Před 3 lety

    Why isn’t the overlay showing all the ressource upgrades (stone and gold)?

  • @TheHFChang
    @TheHFChang Před 3 lety +1

    Themax has really refined his game. He could go far in kotd3

  • @joacolopezrp
    @joacolopezrp Před 3 lety

    What a game!

  • @wildtrickster4135
    @wildtrickster4135 Před 3 lety +2

    22:58 why'd he randomly decide to kill that Camel :C

  • @johnbongjoey5200
    @johnbongjoey5200 Před 2 lety

    "A Goat Is Going To Be Stolen". What a great prophecy

  • @AustinKU123
    @AustinKU123 Před 3 lety +41

    Spoiler Warning:!
    Random guy in chat: "you keep saying that its over for Mayans, but it doesn't' seem to be over"
    literally within 20 seconds call gg.

  • @Felipe-vm4yl
    @Felipe-vm4yl Před 3 lety

    Just... Damn!!

  • @ramsoofkyo9047
    @ramsoofkyo9047 Před 3 lety

    11:25 LOL

  • @joshmccraney4020
    @joshmccraney4020 Před 3 lety +1

    6:13 the game agreeing with t90 lol

  • @Bulgarian021
    @Bulgarian021 Před 3 lety

    I have been in this situation as mayans 2-3 times. It sucks. The only thing vs mass huskarls is heavy scorpions+ swordsmen but it is SO EXPENSIVE, you need 30 scorpions minimum and still losing it

  • @darthwader4472
    @darthwader4472 Před 3 lety +1

    Never thought I'd see the words "beautiful" and "goths" in the same sentence....

  • @sammao2011
    @sammao2011 Před 3 lety

    The Mayan player can try to make insane amount of barrack and mass spam helberdiers (economy need to be very strong though) and just try to spam down the huskarl that way. Yes it is a tough battle and certainly favor the Goth, but it is still better than keep using plume archers. Plus, huskarl actually cost quite a bit of gold, so using heldberdiers isn't the worst trade ever.

  • @votecthulhu9378
    @votecthulhu9378 Před 3 lety +1

    cube mod looks so nasty wtf

  • @anonnon6278
    @anonnon6278 Před 3 lety +3

    link to the TaToH vs The Max game?

  • @ianian830901
    @ianian830901 Před 3 lety

    Yesterday I just 3v4 all game with goth

  • @kooroshrostami27
    @kooroshrostami27 Před 3 lety

    The fact that cube mods shows soon to be overchopped trees by the small cube size really does makes it unfair imo.

  • @betwixtX
    @betwixtX Před 3 lety

    TheMax is the Bobby Fischer of aoe2

  • @burntalive
    @burntalive Před 3 lety

    Being saluted almost 1 year later

  • @aquasquid36
    @aquasquid36 Před 3 lety +1

    GET CUBED!!

  • @SuperFlipperFlapper
    @SuperFlipperFlapper Před 3 lety +1

    Maybe if I install the Cube mod, I'll be able to pass the Ranked Benchmark Test...

    • @SuperFlipperFlapper
      @SuperFlipperFlapper Před 3 lety +1

      cube mod didn't help me

    • @michaelgordonsaxophone
      @michaelgordonsaxophone Před 3 lety

      @@SuperFlipperFlapper Good to know. My laptop can't even run DE in single player. I just still play the classic game on voobly and gameranger 11

    • @SuperFlipperFlapper
      @SuperFlipperFlapper Před 3 lety

      @@michaelgordonsaxophone I did find one way to cheat thr benchmark test. Lower your resolution as far as you can and switch it back to regular after the test. The test score will still be the same

  • @RazorWinter
    @RazorWinter Před 3 lety

    What are some examples of civ win?

  • @janknoblich4129
    @janknoblich4129 Před 3 lety

    28:38 horse collar took 30 minutes?

  • @vonhumboldt1985
    @vonhumboldt1985 Před rokem

    Can somebody plz answer this: When is the right time for wheelbarrow and handcart ? Thank you.

  • @SHlTAKE
    @SHlTAKE Před 3 lety

    1:20 "Shooting down the enemy hunt"
    How come I almost never see pros do it? At least in your videos
    I always wondered that
    I have seen many a dark age raid, where they just pass by some unmolested hunt and ignore it

    • @javiercanada6212
      @javiercanada6212 Před 3 lety

      Most high rank players consider it playing too dirty, unsportive. Usual ranked games are full of that though, I get my boars or hunt stolen or killed way too often.

    • @krystofcisar469
      @krystofcisar469 Před rokem

      If u lame with your villagers you probably do more damage to yourself.

  • @barsni4779
    @barsni4779 Před 3 lety +1

    You think he lost? Nah, he goth this.

  • @ShivamSingh-dk2pu
    @ShivamSingh-dk2pu Před 3 lety

    theMax is

  • @markdowse3572
    @markdowse3572 Před 3 lety

    @ 4:20 FOUR Men-At-Arms? 😯
    Unthinkable! Ha ha ha 🤣
    When is TheMax going to get "SUPPLIES"? 🤔

  • @Gui101do
    @Gui101do Před 3 lety

    Winland!

  • @DiegoAlanTorres96
    @DiegoAlanTorres96 Před 3 lety

    Missed a lot of knight shots without ballistics

  • @Ty5oN101
    @Ty5oN101 Před 3 lety +2

    Wait the overlay is back?

    • @SeaBomb
      @SeaBomb Před 3 lety +4

      They're playing on the old patch for the entirety of kotd3 so the overlay will work

    • @Ty5oN101
      @Ty5oN101 Před 3 lety

      @@SeaBomb ahhhh thanks

  • @amazingsmurf6679
    @amazingsmurf6679 Před 3 lety +1

    If the AI had an ELO ranking! which would have the extremely heavy, very heavy and heavy AI?
    What would you say?

    • @krystofcisar469
      @krystofcisar469 Před rokem

      Hard AI reminds me around 800 player - however AI dont build walls and goes every time for crazy boom production sooo...

  • @nwhome9615
    @nwhome9615 Před 3 lety +2

    No you're the most beautiful @t90

  • @AnthanKrufix
    @AnthanKrufix Před 3 lety

    I don't think that cube mod looks bad.

  • @Metroyeti17
    @Metroyeti17 Před 3 lety

    TheMax is out here playing Minecraft

  • @ohlookanotheraccount
    @ohlookanotheraccount Před 3 lety

    ~P E R K E L E~

  • @sideofqueso1967
    @sideofqueso1967 Před 3 lety +1

    I wonder if he always post his videos late now so people can sleep to them

  • @ktm_nl
    @ktm_nl Před 3 lety +9

    that wall glitch needs to be removed if you cant attack and destroy the walls that bs

    • @lukasg4807
      @lukasg4807 Před 3 lety

      Every single time, you idiots pop up in the comments.

    • @ktm_nl
      @ktm_nl Před 3 lety

      @@lukasg4807 so somebody is a idiot because of a opinion? Well my opinion is that your parents shouldn't have kids but here you are!🙃

  • @svn7298
    @svn7298 Před 3 lety +1

    That was a very good game. Too bad that one could after, 5 minutes of the game, from your commentary know that Max would win.

  • @XxTheMoBSteRxX1
    @XxTheMoBSteRxX1 Před 3 lety +1

    MOMMY MILKIES gimme the milkers BADONKERS... AWWOOOOOOOGGGGAAA LOOK AT THEM BAZOOOOKAS MOMMY MILKIES

  • @Xokken333
    @Xokken333 Před 2 lety

    T90 says he's dead too early every game

  • @Shlonzs
    @Shlonzs Před 3 lety

    So TheMac is basically playing Minecraft 111111

  • @jackman00110101
    @jackman00110101 Před 5 měsíci

    Wow

  • @cronos351
    @cronos351 Před 3 lety

    bow saw 1:00:00 that why i only whatch viper game

  • @NC7491
    @NC7491 Před 3 lety

    You need to fix the audio, there's distortion in the sound.

  • @JJ-zr6fu
    @JJ-zr6fu Před 3 lety +2

    I think eventually there needs to be a standardized layout for tournaments so players can't use different types of mods. Maybe this will be done for AoE 4 but you risk losing the enjoyment in the game if you have grid and cube mods.

    • @krystofcisar469
      @krystofcisar469 Před rokem

      I think everybody should use big trees.. Just bcs it looks cool :D Small trees are actually good for walling and doesnt look bad but i dont think game needs some symplifiing i any means.

  • @mysteriousshadow395
    @mysteriousshadow395 Před 3 lety

    Now palisade scans are disabled...

  • @derikaem8021
    @derikaem8021 Před 3 lety +1

    Is Goths vs Mayans the most unbalanced civ-matchup in AoE? I was always assuming that, but this game did not look that unbalanced

    • @CrnaStrela
      @CrnaStrela Před 3 lety

      Absolutely not, any archer civs can win against Goths and even win by destroying them in feudal/castle, Mayan in particular can extend that window all the way to Imperial Age thanks to El Dorado. Something that is very one sided is probably Portuguese against Viking in land, they just cannot win anything in land maps.

    • @derikaem8021
      @derikaem8021 Před 3 lety +1

      @@CrnaStrela of course, any civ with an early eco bonus is able to win in early game. in these stages of the game the civs do not theoretically differ from each other as heavily.
      The thing is, mayans have no cost-effective answer to huskarls. not even el dorado eagles, because they take bonus damage from huskarls.
      portuguese, as i saw them succeeding, have to be played defensively. as long as you do not lose, you come closer to the stage when your opponent is out of gold, while you have feitorias and a lot of powerful gold units. therefore it is important to hit imp first, otherwise your defenses go down to trebuchets. i agree that it is very hard to hit imp before vikings do with their amazing midgame eco. you would probably need to push them successfully with gold-discounted archers and knights, which - I think - is doable.

    • @krystofcisar469
      @krystofcisar469 Před rokem

      @@CrnaStrela Portuguese got good army Imo - only really strong option vikings has is berserk/champ arbalest. They tend to have one of strongest castle age eco but not that protuguese dont have answers for it.

  • @meytah8382
    @meytah8382 Před 3 lety

    8:00 do devs not work on this game anymore tho? like come on.

  • @ronaldshartzer6142
    @ronaldshartzer6142 Před 2 lety

    I really hate seeing the people in chat call it before feudal is even hit

  • @DS_4172
    @DS_4172 Před 3 lety +3

    Does anyone know if he'll upload that game where the person just resigned once Goths hit Imp?

  • @Zircillius
    @Zircillius Před 3 lety +2

    Did T90 seriously suggest eagles stand a chance against Huskarls?? 11 first of all eagles have no defense against skarls they get shredded instantly. secondly eagles take 3 times longer to produce BEFORE perfusion (which makes them take 4 or 5 times longer) so unless the mayan player has 50 or 60 barracks, they're worthless.

    • @Gammelmann
      @Gammelmann Před 3 lety +1

      T90 is right, FU Mayan Eagles and FU Elite Huskarls trade equally, both kill each other in 7 hits. It's not a great counter, but it's still the Mayan players best option. The difference is Huskarls are more food and less gold heavy, and produce faster (13 sec vs. 20 sec before perfusion) , so the advantage is still Goths, but it's absolutely doable to win with Eagles.

    • @Zircillius
      @Zircillius Před 3 lety

      @@Gammelmann Yeah, Mayan Eagles after your research El Derado, which is incredibly expensive. What are the stats after perfusion? It's hardly doable. Besides, If you're a Mayan player and invest the 40 plus barracks you need to beat goths, all the Goth play has to do is switch to champs for a bit and game over.

    • @Gammelmann
      @Gammelmann Před 3 lety +3

      @@Zircillius That's why you mix in plumes as well, to kill the champs. Mayan eco should allow you to get El Dorado, it is almost always picked up if possible and plume+eagles is known as the best combo vs Goths. It is absolutely possible to win with. Of course it's very gold intensive and you have limited time to make it work, but no alternative is great. What other option is there? Two handed swordmen without supplies? Halbs? Full scorpions? At that stage of the game you just have to make do with what you've got.

  • @lustify8977
    @lustify8977 Před 3 lety

    I’ve been playing this game since I was 5 but I stopped playing in like 2013 when I was 8 so I don’t really remember the game but I know it’s fun

  • @lordrubbish_aoe
    @lordrubbish_aoe Před 3 lety +2

    200ICube

  • @kaleidoscope155
    @kaleidoscope155 Před 3 lety

    Age of empires

  • @vOddy75
    @vOddy75 Před 3 lety

    Can some one who is good at this game tell me why Mayans don't go for heavy scorpions against Goths? They smack both champions and huskarls.

  • @allancg1022
    @allancg1022 Před 3 lety

    #soBangSoGood

  • @illegalsmirf
    @illegalsmirf Před 3 lety +1

    YOU are beautiful and I love you xxx

  • @TheSuperappelflap
    @TheSuperappelflap Před 3 lety

    get cubed

  • @CrossbowManD
    @CrossbowManD Před 3 lety +1

    I still cringe seeing the goths with free loom. I'll never get over what they did to the Aztecs, and free loom for goths is just an extra insult after taking it from the Aztecs.

    • @kavenram
      @kavenram Před 3 lety +1

      Exactly right. With so much firepower giving goths free loom is just broken as fuck.

    • @Wwillswords
      @Wwillswords Před 3 lety +1

      @@kavenram except goths swing wildly from stomping to being stomped the loom upgrade actually makes them more balanced meanwhile the Aztecs economic upgrades make them broken with free loom

  • @Semirotta
    @Semirotta Před 3 lety

    Just looked what the cubes would look like, imo it looks better. Helps you see the holes in woodlines and what not really nicely.

  • @Alannnn14
    @Alannnn14 Před 3 lety

    Cube nothing?