Then again, when he mentions the shot for the Shotgun as "slugs," that's incorrect. I'm pretty sure it's some type of buck shot. 00B judging by the pellet count and size.
Before the patches the pistol could kill in 9 shots dual wielded. Does this help defend the pistol in 2? No but it was still alright for a few months somewhat.
You are a man of culture, Cole. During my childhood (now I became adult), I always assumed franchise wide, it was the absolute worst gun of Halo. Shame I never had any other Halo games than Halo 2.
@@williamwest9204 honestly it made no sence to balance the ar, pretty much all the ce maps are super open / big so it wouldn't even matter if they made the ar better
40:07 the if you enter the passenger seat weaponless you go into a t pose is actually present in the retail version but Ive only seen done with marines
it's a pretty important thing to acknowledge any missteps you may have taken and genuinely try to do better in the future. good on you for admitting to your mistakes and hearing others out, and im also sorry to hear that you've been going through a rough patch in life currently thanks for the great content, this video is super interesting and you put a lot of effort into analyzing it all, good work as always dude, and take care of yourself
It's unlikely to happen because I don't think anyone but the devs have put their hands on it, it'd be a miracle for them to leak it but still, what would work on that engine? The E3 demo?
XUZUL I'd hope so. Or at the very least, maybe some kind of content that we've never seen before. What's interesting about the engine is that there's an old screenshot of Bloodgulch rendered in the engine on Bungie.net halo.bungie.net/news/content.aspx?cid=25650
About 2-3 weeks before halo 2 originally released in the US my local internet cafe at the time had a French version of I'm not sure was a full or alpha/beta version of halo 2 for everyone to play/lan with. I haven't had any luck finding any information of this build of Halo 2 anywhere online, can anyone shed any light on what version that possibly was?
I love this analysis. You really have poured your soul into analyzing the alpha. This overlook is really detailed. Hope to see more gameplay footage and that you get through your rough times.
You reminded me how unnecessarily big waterworks was. The map feels like it was intended for a larger player cap than the 16 that the release version of the game has. I bet it could have been a cool map with something more like 24 players on it.
I feel like the unused campaign images hidden in the alpha would've made a neat addition to this video, but overall you did a great job Vadam. Nice to have you uploading again!
This was a great analysis, Good job Vadam. It looks to me that given the state this alpha was in Bungie basically made Halo 2 in just over a year which give credence to them describing Halo 2 as having the 'mother of all crunches'. It's a shame we never got to see a halo game with that fancy stencil lighting system.
I remember reading about this alpha back in the day. A player with the name "char" was interviewed because he was destroying everyone else. I was so jealous and wanted to be a Microsoft employee one day so I could be invited to something like this too. 😆
I fucking love these videos dude, also I would love to see the halo 4 beta and or alpha if you can, because there are a lot of unused armor abilities that haven't been covered that I've only seen once that involves a bubble shield thing and some other shit too.
im new to this channel so i had no context behind your apologies (which of course you explained) but holy shit, why the fuck dont other youtubers take a page out of your book on how to apologize? it was simple and it was honest and not made to be a big deal. thats how its supposed to be done. mad respect bro. i had already subbed but if i could do it again, i would. very classy.
This comment is way past the upload date but man, don't feel like you owe the CZcams community a thing. We love your content but I think most of us would agree that we'd rather you take care of your personal struggles than prioritize content. Thank you for the content you put together, I hope things got/are getting better!
Awesome work, Vengeful. But, I think you missed an important thing about the reloading. You can actually slightly speed up the reloading speed by meleeing, just like in CE. If you try to reload and melee before the reload animation completes in Halo 2, you don't get back your bullets. However, in CE and the Alpha, you get back your bullets if you melee as soon as you see the clip get into the gun.
The thing is, that’s not always true. A lot of the Melee animations take forever in the alpha, like basically all the human weapons. With the BR especially, you’re better off just letting the reload finish.
The Vengeful 'Vadam Oh, right.. It's still an interesting remnant from CE though in my opinion. Try the Brute Shot. It increases reload speed quite a bit. For the other weapons, it's situation dependent I guess. Imagine a close situation where that could save you. You melee your opponent right when you see the clip enter the gun, then you' re immediately ready to shoot some more, since you already have a full clip. Unless meleeing is really useless in the Alpha? I haven't exactly tested it outside of a single player environment.
Let me just say if Halo 2 didn't have split-screen (which was basically the only way I played it, since I didn't have an Xbox but my friend did) I would've never fallen in love with the game. Halo 2 is my all-time favorite Halo game for a reason, because me and my best friends would sit and play campaign co-op and multiplayer for hours and hours. Without split-screen idk if I ever would've even played at all.
Wallace Jenkins Knew someone would say that, as it always happens. When Bungie is being referred to in terms of Halo, Destiny never comes to thought because Destiny doesn't even come near Halo. Mentioning Destiny Bungie is useless.
I just realized that this version of the Battle Rifle's bullet fire and stuff is just like that new rifle from Halo Infinite that was revealed. Or maybe it isn't and I'm just insane.
I always just sit around thinking what Halo 2 could've been if they were able to keep the "pstencil engine" and were given another year of development. The original bungie team were so ambitious and ahead of their time. I hope one day we get access to the original halo 2 in its pstencil engine state. Also the E3 2000 halo ce demo would be great to get our hands on too.
Shouts to the real OG's hunting for days on end in Burial Mounds to find the mongoose and super needler. Anyone remember the invisible walkway that leads you all the up the pizza cutter?
That old Xbox article gave me fucking chills. I haven't been on that article in 14 years. All those old Xbox games that were new and were just releasing content on Xbox Live was just recent on that article. It's now 2018 and it feels like that it's right now that article is a time machine but it unfortunately its not😔 23:20
Please help, I transfered the game via FTP, I can run it, but when I trying to "bypass" the code pressing A button, it doesn't do anything, just says "go to the Xbox dashboard?" I already downloaded the game on your link given below. Sorry if I made mistakes with my English :p. Edit:Just run the patched .xbe file, by searching on a file explorer
Do you think it will ever be possible to get our hands on an alpha still running Halo 2 stencil engine? Or was the game still too early in dev to even be playable in a alpha build?
If you want to download the build and play it yourself, check the description. Download link is there.
Is there a video on how to install it?
Is it an Xbox rom?
the link no longer works, just in case you weren't aware
@@TheUltimoScorp he updated to the link I sent
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Its satisfying hearing "magazine" instead of "clip."
Then again, when he mentions the shot for the Shotgun as "slugs," that's incorrect. I'm pretty sure it's some type of buck shot. 00B judging by the pellet count and size.
@@quickscopeoneeighty9158 I just call them shells... also originally they looked more like cards so...
Clipazines
The pistol doesn't do any damage. So in other words, it's just like the final game's version of the pistol?
It may suck, but I fucking love duel wielding them, they just feel so great to use
Haha
Before the patches the pistol could kill in 9 shots dual wielded. Does this help defend the pistol in 2? No but it was still alright for a few months somewhat.
lolololololololololololololololololololol.
You are a man of culture, Cole.
During my childhood (now I became adult), I always assumed franchise wide, it was the absolute worst gun of Halo. Shame I never had any other Halo games than Halo 2.
Pretty cool to see how close it was to CE originally.
Hasuku ikr just imagine if bungie wasn't restricted to time restraints
Long as autos didn't suck and magnum didn't win everything for free it woulda been good
@@williamwest9204 problem is not the magnum which was perfect it was spawning with it every time and amount count
@@williamwest9204 honestly it made no sence to balance the ar, pretty much all the ce maps are super open / big so it wouldn't even matter if they made the ar better
Halo 2 uses a modified CE engine, just with better lighting and Havok physics implementation.
40:07 the if you enter the passenger seat weaponless you go into a t pose is actually present in the retail version but Ive only seen done with marines
On halo reach if you download a no weapons game type or a dayz gametype that spawns with no weapons it will t pose when in the vehicle.
To be honest, I thought that "FuckGamecheat" player was actually Gamecheato himself...
*BOI, WAS I WRONG*
cheats are for losers
What does that have to do with my comment?
I understood that reference
Forgive me for being clueless, but what reference are you talking about?
czcams.com/video/FcNTEyEqxH0/video.html
it's a pretty important thing to acknowledge any missteps you may have taken and genuinely try to do better in the future. good on you for admitting to your mistakes and hearing others out, and im also sorry to hear that you've been going through a rough patch in life currently
thanks for the great content, this video is super interesting and you put a lot of effort into analyzing it all, good work as always dude, and take care of yourself
Now we just need someone to leak a build of Halo 2 with the Stencil engine on it.
It's unlikely to happen because I don't think anyone but the devs have put their hands on it, it'd be a miracle for them to leak it
but still, what would work on that engine? The E3 demo?
XUZUL I'd hope so. Or at the very least, maybe some kind of content that we've never seen before. What's interesting about the engine is that there's an old screenshot of Bloodgulch rendered in the engine on Bungie.net halo.bungie.net/news/content.aspx?cid=25650
Dude that would be orgasmic just to play the '03 E3 demo! BTW, has anyone here played the OG Xbox version of Kameo?
@@christopherwalkinalloverya5824 look it up. Its out there being played
About 2-3 weeks before halo 2 originally released in the US my local internet cafe at the time had a French version of I'm not sure was a full or alpha/beta version of halo 2 for everyone to play/lan with. I haven't had any luck finding any information of this build of Halo 2 anywhere online, can anyone shed any light on what version that possibly was?
I love the "running" animation so much
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A warzone Halo 2 style would have been fantastic. Though I imagine it wouldn’t run well considering it’s the OG Xbox.
Og battlefield games did it.
An hour long Vengeful Vid?
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I love this analysis. You really have poured your soul into analyzing the alpha. This overlook is really detailed. Hope to see more gameplay footage and that you get through your rough times.
You reminded me how unnecessarily big waterworks was. The map feels like it was intended for a larger player cap than the 16 that the release version of the game has. I bet it could have been a cool map with something more like 24 players on it.
It could be pretty neat as a Warzone map or something in H5.
I still think it's fun though
my dad was one of the bungie employees that got selected to play this build back in the day :)
Nice!
Now we wait for the alpha campaign content. It's gonna be awhile...
All I want is to see the early betas and alphas of the campaigns
Facts!
OMG, I would kill to have a playable Halo 2 '03 E3 demo!
@@christopherwalkinalloverya5824 soon
This was an awesome video! I love looks at these kinds of builds. It’s amazing how much stuff gets changed or cut in game development.
Thanks for your hard work and great vid. Super interesting to see how halo 2 evolved over its short dev time.
Wow, the alpha actually had health.
halo 2 is so good
guy with ayylien gamertag is lit
Ayy Lmao Ayy shouldn't you be at Generalheed's comment section?🤔
i live in every halo comment section but heed is my man
ayyyy lmaooo
Damn these are always so good. Great works as always.
This deserves way more views you put a lot of effort into your videos, great work man
Awesome video! Glad to see you noticed all of these changes. I missed a lot of them while playing.
I love your vids about halo man. You really put alot of effort and information in these. Like even the things you mention!!!
I feel like the unused campaign images hidden in the alpha would've made a neat addition to this video, but overall you did a great job Vadam. Nice to have you uploading again!
Awesome in depth look at the alpha! Keep up the great work!
So glad I found this video. Very interesting. Nice work Vadam! 😊
This is a great video. Huge props man for the hard work
This was a great analysis, Good job Vadam.
It looks to me that given the state this alpha was in Bungie basically made Halo 2 in just over a year which give credence to them describing Halo 2 as having the 'mother of all crunches'. It's a shame we never got to see a halo game with that fancy stencil lighting system.
Great video pal. These were some of the most fun games of Halo i played with people. It was great!
wow, so proud of you! you always put so much work into your videos!! keep it up!
Ashley Eve your a gamergirl.
saint john no it’s fake
This was a really cool look back on the development of Halo 2!
I love that we can now play all the Alphas and Betas. Moders better be taking notes.
Awesome videos, can't believe I only just found this channel.
Looks like you did a lot of research for this. Great video!
I have no idea of what he's talking about in the beginning, mainly because I just discovered his channel XD
WOW I learned a lot from this. Thank you. You earned a sub
Amazing video bro, I subbed!
Happy you’re back man.
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Can we copystrike Mustafa Curgu?!
Mustafa Curgu Lol
Mah boi veggie 💕💕 I love this content yo, I appreciate the work you put into this
Thanks Nivi! :D
Good to see Vengeful Vadam back on YT. :)
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THAT is how you take responsibility. That is commendable, that is someone you want on your team. I respect the heck outta you, Vengeful 'Vadam.
Your vids are always badass!
This is a pretty cool alpha. Look at how far we've come
I wished that 343 would upload the files of the E3 demo of halo 2 to the halo community so people can explore.
I remember reading about this alpha back in the day. A player with the name "char" was interviewed because he was destroying everyone else.
I was so jealous and wanted to be a Microsoft employee one day so I could be invited to something like this too. 😆
Espere mucho por este vídeo tú me agradas por que siempre haces muy buenos videos sobre las betas alfas y otras versiones de juegos de Halo :')
Can't wait for the full game to come out
I fucking love these videos dude, also I would love to see the halo 4 beta and or alpha if you can, because there are a lot of unused armor abilities that haven't been covered that I've only seen once that involves a bubble shield thing and some other shit too.
im new to this channel so i had no context behind your apologies (which of course you explained) but holy shit, why the fuck dont other youtubers take a page out of your book on how to apologize? it was simple and it was honest and not made to be a big deal. thats how its supposed to be done. mad respect bro. i had already subbed but if i could do it again, i would. very classy.
Wow nice video great to come back
you can tell who's clocks are off from the debug text in the middle of the screen
Man, I want the build of the E3 2003 Campaign demo to leak onto the internet.
This comment is way past the upload date but man, don't feel like you owe the CZcams community a thing. We love your content but I think most of us would agree that we'd rather you take care of your personal struggles than prioritize content. Thank you for the content you put together, I hope things got/are getting better!
I enjoyed the video, man! It’s always interesting seeing how my favorite games are made. Got one for Combat Evolved?
I hope those real life things have gotten better, mister. Dope video
Awesome work, Vengeful. But, I think you missed an important thing about the reloading. You can actually slightly speed up the reloading speed by meleeing, just like in CE. If you try to reload and melee before the reload animation completes in Halo 2, you don't get back your bullets. However, in CE and the Alpha, you get back your bullets if you melee as soon as you see the clip get into the gun.
The thing is, that’s not always true. A lot of the Melee animations take forever in the alpha, like basically all the human weapons. With the BR especially, you’re better off just letting the reload finish.
The Vengeful 'Vadam Oh, right.. It's still an interesting remnant from CE though in my opinion. Try the Brute Shot. It increases reload speed quite a bit. For the other weapons, it's situation dependent I guess. Imagine a close situation where that could save you. You melee your opponent right when you see the clip enter the gun, then you' re immediately ready to shoot some more, since you already have a full clip. Unless meleeing is really useless in the Alpha? I haven't exactly tested it outside of a single player environment.
Please keep the old one up. It was one of the coolest analysis videos out there, along with its series for the 3 halos
You might be talking about the Halo 2 Beta Analysis, which I plan to keep up. The vid I took down was about the alpha videos that Toxzin posted.
amazing video
Let me just say if Halo 2 didn't have split-screen (which was basically the only way I played it, since I didn't have an Xbox but my friend did) I would've never fallen in love with the game. Halo 2 is my all-time favorite Halo game for a reason, because me and my best friends would sit and play campaign co-op and multiplayer for hours and hours. Without split-screen idk if I ever would've even played at all.
I can’t wait for u to return
I wonder if you can use some of the button combos that are found in the retail version on the alpha and beta version of halo 2.
Nice video! Thanks for the great content :) But i wounder when will your full SPV3.1 review come?
I’m gonna wait until SPV3.2 drops, which should be sometime soon, actually.
Wow, nice! Can't wait :)
So Headhunter and Invasion were not new fully to Halo: Reach? Huh, I did not know that wow.
This makes me so happy lol.
I’d kill to sit in a room with the original Halo 2 Bungie development team and talk for hours about every single thing.
iPlayiOS Don't you mean bungie before Activision and destiny
Wallace Jenkins Knew someone would say that, as it always happens.
When Bungie is being referred to in terms of Halo, Destiny never comes to thought because Destiny doesn't even come near Halo.
Mentioning Destiny Bungie is useless.
Remember man irl comes first, I'll always be waiting here.
I just realized that this version of the Battle Rifle's bullet fire and stuff is just like that new rifle from Halo Infinite that was revealed. Or maybe it isn't and I'm just insane.
Wow I’ve always thought the wraith had the feel of it’s charged shot. So much cleaner and efficient than it’s final version.
I cant get past the authenticator screen in the Halo 2 alpha? mine just gives me a prompt to return to dashboard everytime I try.
"There are those who said this day would never come. What are they to say now?"
I always just sit around thinking what Halo 2 could've been if they were able to keep the "pstencil engine" and were given another year of development. The original bungie team were so ambitious and ahead of their time. I hope one day we get access to the original halo 2 in its pstencil engine state. Also the E3 2000 halo ce demo would be great to get our hands on too.
Where is that old stencil engine campaign footage from at 2:37? It looks familiar but I can't remember where that was shown.
I've noticed my halo 2 alpha build only has burial mound? Edit: idk what I did but all them maps load now my bad lol
22:08 Thats a Halo Custom Edition port of Lockout! Cool!
8:23 The *power* *OF* *T H E* **I** **C** **O** **N** **I** **C** _FLOODS_ *_**U**_*
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What are the double hex number strings in the halo 2/halo 3 alpha/beta builds for? (The alphanumeric strings next to the ammo counter)
I want to know this too and nobody has asked about it and I couldn’t find an answer online
At 22:09,Is this Custom Edition? I know that map is lockout but can anyone give me a link or something? I love to play that map on CE
Hey, does anybody know how to play the alpha and beta? Downloaded the files and have no idea what to do know.
Shouts to the real OG's hunting for days on end in Burial Mounds to find the mongoose and super needler. Anyone remember the invisible walkway that leads you all the up the pizza cutter?
28:05 woody's dialogue from toy story
Lol. Very clever
@15:10, I find that incredibly hilarious.
That old Xbox article gave me fucking chills. I haven't been on that article in 14 years. All those old Xbox games that were new and were just releasing content on Xbox Live was just recent on that article. It's now 2018 and it feels like that it's right now that article is a time machine but it unfortunately its not😔
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Halo 2 is my favorite MP of all of them, but these weapons look more fun than what we got.
Are there button combos such as the BXR OR RRX OR BXB in the alpha?
can you make video on differences between halo ce and halo2 on xbox and pc
Please help, I transfered the game via FTP, I can run it, but when I trying to "bypass" the code pressing A button, it doesn't do anything, just says "go to the Xbox dashboard?" I already downloaded the game on your link given below. Sorry if I made mistakes with my English :p.
Edit:Just run the patched .xbe file, by searching on a file explorer
15:01 Same thing in Halo 3 if you die.
I've gotten revenge kills that way.
Do you think it will ever be possible to get our hands on an alpha still running Halo 2 stencil engine? Or was the game still too early in dev to even be playable in a alpha build?
Too early in dev, as far as I know the E3 demo was completely scripted and might have actually been pre-constructed
8:08 a feature later added into Halo 5: Guardians
Annnnnnd ruined
I wish they kept the shotgun higher in the shoulder in first person, instead of it looking like it’s at the hip.
How do I play it? Do I need to put it on a blank Xbox disk? Is there a .exe file?
I wonder if backpack reloading would work in H2 Alpha.
Can you do a Halo CE beta video if possible?
How can I get multiplayer games running? I have it working on my modded xbox, and with internet.
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What would a Halo 2 Game made out of the Stencil Engine look like?
how do i get past the network screen?
i managed to find an unlisted video of halo 2 in it's pstencil phase.
i'm surprised that the alpha and beta builds don't have ragdoll physics yet.
Care to share that video?
@shiggy
Please share
This may be a dumb question but how do you actually access the "Shared" map? I got this Alpha running, but can't figure it out.
Top 10 youtube apologize done right
Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question, but are there people playing this online right now?