2022 WRX- Stage 1 No Nonsense Tuning Results- Impressive Gains, Minimal Mods!
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
- Alex explains the impressive gains you can expect from your 2022 WRX with tuning only via COBB Accessport, and tuning with intake only. Also discussed are OTS vs Protune, Flex sensors, and more!
Update: WE HAVE ADDED FULL E85 MAPS TO OUR WEBSITE FOR EVEN BETTER GAINS!
Want to have us tune your 2022+ WRX? We are ready!
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0:00 Intro/ Baseline Recap
1:17 OTS map 93 octane gains
1:44 stock vs 93 OTS 0-60 comparison
2:14 OTS map E30 Gains
2:39 OTS Map w/ Intake 93 Gains
3:04 OTS Map w/ Intake E30 gains
3:11 TQ numbers- How high?
4:28 Total gains from stock to Intake E30 OTS map
4:58 What is an OTS map?
6:03 What is a Protune (custom tune)
7:36 COBB OTS vs BCP OTS, what's the difference?
9:07 Flex Sensor Kit
10:06 outro - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Really appreciate what you've done here broke it down to layman's terms. You have made a complicated topic very uncomplicated. Thank you much appreciated
Glad it provided you with good info!
Love how you educate people continuously.. would luv to see you making another video for ecutek/gtr like how to start and setup the program in the first time for the gtr..i know u made that already but maybe there's some new stuff in it that you want to update
Amazing information explained in a super comprehensive manner. Love these videos
Thank you for the thoughtful comment. It may be too much for some but we like to explain things as thoroughly as possible!
VERY cool that you back.up the dyno gains with actual on road acceleration e.t's
Just trying to keep it honest!
Been watching your update videos not noticing your the local tuning company for me looking forward to getting my car an bringing it to you
Amazing video, well explained! Love the comments about this car's potential
Thank you for the support!!
You have a great approach to tuning, imo. Thanks for being thorough.
Thank you for the compliment!
Excellent video. Very thorough and easy to comprehend. 👍
Thank you 🙏🏻
I agree with your philosophy about torque. I really do like the FLAT torque curve the factory tune has, just needs to be turned up a little.
Agreed 👍!
I like how the FA24 drives from the factory.
I wonder if it's possible to tune the car so that there's more torque and it stays flat? The stock torque curve looks awesome and would make a fun driving experience I think.
Subbed, good video!
Very clear explanation, thanks for taking the time much appreciated, shame I’m in Oz
That's awesome!
Great shop.
Thank you for the great info.
Glad it was helpful!
Love your video!! Once I get enough money will go to you guys because I can put my money on you guys to not to blow my car up!
Love my OTS Cobb. No problems ever
I was on the fence about getting a WRX, I think you might have just convinced me
Glad we played a part!
Absolutely mind blowing gains for so little modification
I may try you all out when my perrin intake comes in. I was gonna go with drunkmann since he’s well known. But I really enjoyed this video and how you explained everything. Thank you! I’m guessing you have tunes for the different intakes as well?
Thanks for the comment! Our OTS w/ intake map is custom set up for all well-known intakes, correct!
I know the cars havent been out for a suppeerr long time but i am really really curious about reliability. have you guys seen any tune only VB wrxs end up with major engine killing injuries due to tuning only? I really do want one of these cars. i'm just holding off for the 2024 so it has eyesight
should do a video showing how the burble sounds
At what point is a clutch upgrade needed? Also what numbers to the crank would an OTS tune produce with an otherwise stock car? Thanks
planning on getting the flex fuel kit for 2022 wrx. have few questions will I need a aces sport in order for me to further any problems yes ima get the port as well but going get flex fuel first will I still be able too operate the vehicle no limp mode
looking to buy your intake 93 tune now. just before i order the ets intake did you guys use the heat shield or not? i would imagine so but i want to run the same set up and if you think i dont need the heat shield it will save me $100
Im planning on getting the cobb port soon for my VB. How do your OTS tunes work in higher altitudes? Im in Denver, Colorado. Thanks
I just had my car retuned after getting equal length headers, downpipe, injectors, downpipes, catback, intake etc... Made over 150 HP over stock running 450 hp at the wheels.
What fuel?
Stock wrx is 300whp?
250whp stock @@bobforpples
I planned to install jb4 and ets intake runs on 93oct, I wonder how much whp can she make.
more content!!!! :)
With just a tune only, what effect does it have on your fuel economy?
I’ve wanted a job here for so long
Email sales@bcpdirect.com , worst that could happen is we save your resume for another day!
Good luck 👍🍀.
Hope you help others get more out of their cars.
Did you get the job?
@@Player-9 I don’t have any certifications just 20 years of experience figured I didn’t wanna waste anyones time
Gotta come here and get my car tuned
What turbo would you recommend for ets intake fmic?
E85 is amazing.
I would imagine those tunes would work with the Australian market?
I’m looking at y’all store it looks like you guys don’t support wrx 09-14 E tuning, I’m only seeing sti. Am I missing something?
what viscosity oil running in these engines?
Awesome video. Makes complete sense you don't just aim for big numbers but consider the driving experience. Stock it seems that torque maxes out and stays strong throughout the powerband, more torque would feel good but since it doesn't stay as high throughout the power band it sounds like it'd feel a lot different. Is it possible to tune the car so that you get more torque overall, but it stays flat throughout the powerband?
Thank you for the comment! Your theory is 100% correct. We can lift torque to create a "square" or balanced power/torque curve. The limit is the horsepower at higher rpm being limited by fuel quality and the mechanical parts themselves. As I mentioned in the video, it is easy to make gobs of torque down low, but if you do not match that with the power up top you will have a very "punchy" feeling powerband. Matching the torque and horsepower will create the most balanced driving experience which is why you see many stock figures looking like that.
@@boostcontrolledperformance1523 Thanks for the reply! Do you think with the new WRX that it’s possible to replicate the stock curves, except with more horsepower and torque? Do you think the stock curves are optimal (i.e. would replicating them but with more hp and torque be the best driving experience?)?
I’ve only become interested in modding cars and tuning recently, from the dyno charts I’ve seen before (so not a lot) I’ve never seen a chart where the torque curve has been so flat!
@@Spacemonkeymojo Yes, you can replicated the stock curve to a certain point! Pretty much take the max HP we can safely make and then you can easily lower torque to match that and square the graph out!
@@boostcontrolledperformance1523 That's awesome! Thanks for the replies! Subbed :) Looking forward to more videos on the new WRX!
Can you do this to my 24 outback Onyx XT?
You don’t need mods to run an e85 tune? Just the tune?
Alex is the mutha effen man
Appreciate the love!!
There's been a lot of controversy about how much torque this cvt can handle. Let's say I punch it every once in a while. What torque would you say is the safest
Been wanting to get into tuning and working in a shop like this. Any advice where to start?
There's a lot behind this response, but simply put- start modifying/tuning your own car and strive to learn more. Once you have yours figured out, you can start to work on other's.
Can you come to Australia and fix me up😊
Is the 93 pump ots map tuned conservative afr and timing? Or is it near "perfection" on extrapolating all the hp/trq out of it? If so I would rather get a pro tune and have them conservatively tune it for longevity of engine vs lets pull another 15hp and 30ftlbs more out of it and reduce longevity of engine. I know stock is best for longevity Im just looking for a scooch more without compromising the integrity or longevity of the engine.
It's definitely optimized for max power without getting to risky. We know everyone drives differently so it's best to lean on the side of caution. Our OTS maps are set up for one mod only. The Pro Tune maps are better dialed in for YOUR car, driving style, etc.
@@boostcontrolledperformance1523 Thank you for responding
How do I avoid blowing my engine lmaoo I read so much about not being able to modify these cars
Hey, I haven't done any research on this, but, is it possible for me to run full E85 on this car? If so, besides injectors and a bigger pump is there anything else I would need?
You can run full E85 on stock fuel system up to about 360whp. No upgrades required. You can order this from our website in the description!
Got 19k miles on e50 pushing 400/450 with ets intake only.
Based on our tuning experience and the size of the stock turbo those numbers sound like virtual dyno estimates.
They are actual dyno estimates, not virtual road estimates.
240 stock
300 91oct
404 e50
I have a 22 manual, Invidia r400 cat back, Cobb access port, ets intake, Cobb intercooler, Perrin charge pipe and turbosmart plumb back bov. Only the exhaust is fitted currently, once fitted I will protune, any recommendations on some safe power numbers as this is my daily
350whp and ~ 375-400wtq would be about were we leave that car at (on 93 octane).
Do you think a charge pipe and a intercooler are safe on a stock tune?
It's best to be tuned for these are they can change the way the turbo makes boost. It would likely be ok, but without reviewing data it's always a bit of a toss up if something is 100% safe.
Thinking about buying one of these cars, would an intake, intercooler and axel back be enough to make 380whp 380tq running 93?
That's a stretch. Without ethanol, I don't see 380whp being possible with those mods.
I currently own a 10th gen Civic Si and doing a tune and intake was quite noticeable. However, there were penalties for increasing the torque. Within 10,000 miles, the clutch started slipping and after 55,000 miles, I lifted the head. These items were very expensive, so I am fearful of doing anything like this to a car ever again. It will be interesting to see the effects of an OTS tune on these new Subies. I still have my Civic, but if I had to get another car, it would be the new WRX. I would gladly trade the mpgs for AWD and bigger power.
A slipping clutch is only a matter of time but that depends heavily on driving style. Lifting a head from a tune only sounds pretty extreme. We don’t see those issues on turbo Subaru. Contrary to popular belief, we very rarely see any head gasket issues with turbo Subarus. That was the NA models which had that issue.
The L15's are notoriously known to be the weakest Honda motor ever. There's a reason most people build them before they modify them. If you want to modify a Honda motor, go for basically any other motor.
@@SkylineLofe After head studs, a heavier clutch, and an intercooler, mine has been great. I wished I bought a Type-R and then I wouldn't have needed all the upgrades...
A very fun car without having to dump alot of money into it
Solid performance for sure!
Can you get a flex fuel kit so the car reads and adjusts to the blend?
Not yet, COBB will have to develop that. In the meantime, the Fuel-it kit will help with monitoring ethanol content.
Do you have a video of your 91 ots tune?
The 91 tune will be very similar to the 93 tune, but about 10-15 less HP and TQ. Remember, it will also baseline lower on 91 so the percentage gains are about the same!
I really like this , but, how will it affect MPG???
On gasoline tune, should get about the same cruising. On Ethanol blend, it will suffer slightly.
I have a 22 wrx I have all stock what do you recommend d I do to increase horsepower m as ybe with just a new air intake
Any options mentioned in the video would be great for you! We suggest the intake and E30 tune for the best HP per dollar!
If I upgrade the intake do I need a tune to maximize the benefit of the upgrade?
Depending on your vehicle’s air mass strategy you may require a calibration for an intake just to keep the calibration safe.
Thats all great, the main problem is the second the ECU is flashed with a tune the engine warranty is void, so any issues arise with the engine you're on your own for repairs, these cars are very expensive to repair out of pocket.
This is very true, unfortunately. That’s why I’m stuck with Jb4 for a year so far.
It's not really a problem, just a decision that some choose to make. And to be fair, these cars are very approachable in terms of repair costs compared to other platforms.
I have a 23 wrx. Can someone tell me if i can the ots maps or should I just get a pro tune
Thank you for asking. Our 23 tuning is live now. The OTS is a perfectly fine map and we include a log check with all of them to ensure safety. If you order a protune you will just get more revisions if needed and better support. Either one you will be happy with. If you can afford it, just go protune and maybe on ethanol fuel!
Hi do you guys have tunes for the 2023 Subaru WRX yet?
is it not the same vehicle effectively?
@@matthewrank109 Not according to COBB apparently there's some differences between the 22 model year and 23 model year, so I don't know if an Accessport for a 22 model year will even work on a 23 model year yet.
@@RaceCarFriends wwwwhhaaaa?? Good to know thanks much
I also didnt know this lol now im curious what the differences are between the 22 and 23
@@matthewrank109 Lol no worries, please let me know if you find out otherwise, or let me know when you have a tune available for the 23 model year WRX's and I'll most likely order my Accessport through your company.
If I install a cat back exhaust should I get a tune?
Nope, no need to tune it for a catback!
Is the stock tune for 93 oct using e85 or e0?
Not sure we understand your question. Anything labeled "93" in our videos is 93 octane with 10% ethanol in it.
Interesting how Dmann tunes are pushing 360/400tq on 93 with an ETS intake alone. Your numbers seem low compared to his, why is that?
Our opinion would be that it’s on a higher reading dyno/virtual dyno. We set up our tunes to make the most power that we can, safely. Trap speeds don’t lie. Our E30 and intake only tune traps 112+ in the quarter mile. We’ve seen others claiming 400whp barely trapping any higher. You can only run so much boost and timing on a given setup and we optimize it the most we can!
@boostcontrolledperformance1523 respectable answer, I dig it. Interested to see what others are trapping in the 1/4 mile on other tunes
@@joshstane5926 just a heads up. If you are considering running one of our tunes, we offer a 30 day guarantee. If you don’t like it, we will refund you. But once you run it, we think you’ll be impressed!
@boostcontrolledperformance1523 are your tunes pro-tunes (e-tunes depending on who you ask) or OTS tunes? Although the OTS tunes are insane on these cars I'm looking to get a pro-tune next if at all. So far the numbers have been exactly what I'm looking for as far as boost, feedback knock, etc.
Can you run e88 in this car without damage?
With proper tuning yes, but as you go up in power a lower content blend is require to keep the fuel system within it's operating capacity.
I found a 2022 subaru wax and the guy runs e30 in it and 91 with no flex fuel kit is that bad
Would it cause problems
You can run E30 if you have an E30 tune.
Are your ots maps literally just cobb ots maps?
Aside from being dishonest that would also be pointless for the end user in terms of performance. Our 93 map on average made about 13whp and 34wtq more than the COBB 93 map and obviously they are not offering maps for intakes or ethanol blends so it wouldn't even be a possible situation.
Outside of the obvious power changes, our throttle mapping and driving experience is quite a bit different along with various optimizations to the mapping that we feel is the best for the car and end user. Order one and find out for yourself!
I want you guys to tune my wrx.
Happy to help when you are ready! Link in description!
I’m thinking about getting a 2023 are they pretty reliable? Thanks
I ended up getting a 2022 premium trim 6 speed last year, and I've had a great experience so far. Used prices were so inflated that it was cheaper to pick a new one. My advice would be to define the options you absolutely want (sound system comes highly recommended for instance). For me the cost/value worked out such that the limited trim wasn't worth the extra dough. Just make sure you break in the engine properly (Try to keep it below 4k rpm for a thousand miles, and you'll be golden. It's worth mentioning legacy subie boys are still butt hurt about the wheel well accents so you might not always get a lil wave if that matters to you XD
@@BaroqueBtch 😂😂thanks so much for your info! I can’t find any car that is worth msrp except the wrx I think I’ll go basic trim 6mt and do you recommend sti short shifter? Thanks I’ll def do all those things. I don’t care if people think it’s ugly haha I know this car be perfect for daily and fun hehe. Thanks again!
@@mrslapside you will not regret it. Just got the 23 wrx premium. The car is just begging for more.
@@DennysD123 hell yeah!!! Which color do you recommend ima start shopping soon!
@@mrslapsideI just picked up a ‘22 premium 6MT in ingition red a couple weeks ago. She’s a looker for sure.
I want to get a stage one tune but the warranty on mine would be voided, are the chances high of a problem occurring or should i be fine?
Can you tune the CVT?
Yes, we can tune the CVT model WRX's engine but cannot tune the CVT transmission itself.
0-60s a bit deceptive if you raise the rev limit to clear 60 in two gears instead of three
Deceiving? You 100% have to tune the car in order to reach 60 in 2nd gear. Is it also deceiving that we shorten the wastegate actuator to increase the boost? Adjusting the calibration to achieve a better result was the goal, right?
Are you doing tunes for e85? Or just e30
We also have E85 tunes, see the website for that option at checkout. There is not a huge difference in power but small increase over the E30/40 tune!
Any acceleration 0-60? 0-120?
1:44 stock vs 93 OTS 0-60 comparison
Please watch whole video! 🙏
@boostcontrolledperformance1523 I am asking if engine + transmission can hold as normal for daily driving without breaking down?
Iam surprised about hp gained from fuel + cold air filter only I didn't expect >50hp for small modifications
kinda skewed the 0-60 comparison. stock you guys short shifted and reached 60mph in 3rd gear. with the tune youve reached 60mph in 2nd gear. hence the 1sec off. unless the tune changed rpm redline. but still. even if it changed the rpm redline... stock tune should be 0-57mph or w.e speed it tops out at vs. 0-60mpg for the increased redline. if so.
They aren't skewed, those are the actual results. "Hence the 1 sec off". The car picked up a considerable amount of torque and horsepower, are you suggesting that has nothing to do with it?
Dragy results
Stock Tune 0-50mph = 4.23
Our 93 Tune 0-50mph= 3.57
@@boostcontrolledperformance1523 like ive said comparing a 0-60 pull with 1-2-3 gear vs the tuned with 0-60 with 1-2 gear was skewed...
@@red-bd3mc how is it skewed? It's impossible to go 0-60 without shifting 3rd on a stock car.
It seems you are more concerned with this than any other part of the video so we included the 0-50 as well, just for you, red1.
@@boostcontrolledperformance1523 " It's impossible to go 0-60 without shifting 3rd on a stock car." this part should have been mentioned in the video... instead it was skipped. even when big time media-auto reviewers put out 0-60 times... they would never put out a 0-60 of a car that has to go into 3rd gear for a brief second in order to do 60mph. plenty of these tests would simply state 0-56mph 4.0sec .... versus going into 3rd and having a 0-60mph 4.8sec. it skews data... makes it appear as if the car is slower than it actually is.
@@red-bd3mc he mentioned that redline is raised on his tune, with some common sense you'd figure the rest of it out. as far as your auto reviewer comparison goes, that's complete bs. last gen all the reviewers would compare 0-60 on wrx vs sti and it was common knowledge that the sti had to shift 3 times to reach 60 and it made it slower to 60 in most of the test because of it. i've never seen a review that did 0-56 because of shifts lol
Why do people act like changing fuels is not a huge deal? Not every area has access to flex fuels and you still have to install a kit…oh yeah just change to E85 you’ll make way more power no big deal…
For clarification, no flex kit is needed (or available for this platform) to run ethanol blend. You can add the sensor to aid in knowing your exact ethanol content. If you use your same perspective on it being a big deal and not understanding that to some it's not, if you flip this logic around: For many who have access it is indeed not a big deal and they might ask why someone like you thinks it IS big deal, lol.
When you can gain significant power from just putting different fuel in, many people(including ourselves) would argue this is the easiest way to pick up power.
@@boostcontrolledperformance1523 you still need a tune to run full e85…and a flex fuel sensor. Then you need to plan your day around finding an e85 station wherever you go. What if you go on a road trip? Def need to swap back to stock fuel tune. It’s a massive headache even for people who live in flex fuel available areas
@@garrett6389 you do not need a flex fuel sensor to run an ethanol map. If it was a massive headache Ethanol tunes wouldn’t be one of our best sellers. You are welcome to run whatever fuel is comfortable for you!
@@boostcontrolledperformance1523 I get you are trying to sell a product but you are putting people's car at risk telling them to run a fuel that the owners manual says you can run 2.49 gal of e85 max on the stock tune. Unless you are sourcing fuel from a highly controlled source you can expect some fluctuation of ethanol percent at the pump. Running without a sensor is just plain irresponsible. It's really not as simple as just picking a different nozzle at the pump as you make it seem and that's all I was trying to highlight.
@@garrett6389 tell us more about how the tune is set up and how a full-time closed loop fueling system works
Just leave it stock. Dont molest that poor car.