This Strat Revolutionized Trackmania's Hardest Maps

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
  • Trackmania players will stop at nothing to achieve their goals, and finishing the hardest Kackiest Kacky tracks is no exception. This is the story of the discovery, popularization, progression, abuse, and eventual redemption of Trackmania's simplest strat.
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    Special thanks to / @exlpt2234 for creating the thumbnail. :)

Komentáře • 353

  • @bettaTM
    @bettaTM  Před rokem +699

    Fun fact: All b-roll shots in this video are on Kacky tracks which have had low-input strats discovered.

    • @milknuggetzgaming4723
      @milknuggetzgaming4723 Před rokem +8

      Stunning

    • @RubyPiec
      @RubyPiec Před rokem +1

      b-roll?

    • @milknuggetzgaming4723
      @milknuggetzgaming4723 Před rokem +16

      B-roll is all the extra like scenery shots not necessarily main part of the video

    • @thegamer97HS
      @thegamer97HS Před rokem +1

      can you explain how the failed run had the exact same 8 inputs of the wr, when the game is detrministic? im confused.

    • @RubyPiec
      @RubyPiec Před rokem

      @@thegamer97HS probably wrong timing

  • @hardikgupta8496
    @hardikgupta8496 Před rokem +433

    Almost makes me stop missing Wirtual's documentaries. This was such a fun watch!

    • @fjaps
      @fjaps Před rokem

      Wdym missing

    • @Oscwal
      @Oscwal Před 5 měsíci +18

      @@fjapshe barely uploads

    • @Dalroc
      @Dalroc Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@Oscwal Yeah he kinda stopped after being exposed for cheating after the release of Midori.

    • @Oscwal
      @Oscwal Před 5 měsíci +19

      @@Dalroc what? I don’t think you understood that situation correctly…

    • @jakubfrgal7112
      @jakubfrgal7112 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@Dalroc excuse me, what?

  • @TmOnlineMapper
    @TmOnlineMapper Před rokem +223

    I absolutely hate the sentiment of gatekeeping information because there are bad actors.
    Keeping such information secret helps no one. Bad actors are always there and the only way to find them is by looking for them, questioning achievements (by everyone) and double checking suspicous activity.
    Additionally throwing bad actors "easy" targets makes exposing them easier.

    • @gmdFrame
      @gmdFrame Před 5 měsíci +18

      Yes. That way way of thinking is always harmful to everyone, and nobody should be like that.

    • @dragoninja5489
      @dragoninja5489 Před 4 měsíci +4

      I agree

    • @Shelleloch
      @Shelleloch Před 2 měsíci +1

      The thing is, withholding partial difficult low-input-strats raises the barrier for entry of these bad actors considerably. Especially since these strats are incomplete and generally unfeasible for humans to execute with any consistency, they aren't of any use to anyone except the bad actors.
      And so, in this very specific case, withholding this information is effectively inconsequential.
      The general sentiment is right though, this is just a rather unfortunate unique case.
      Setting up honeypot easy targets only catches the idiots who wouldn't have tried it if not for the partial strats being available. (e.g. Sinon only needed to not have posted that cam3 recording to not get caught.)

  • @caliburnleaf9323
    @caliburnleaf9323 Před rokem +12

    What's the point of concealing strats just because a cheater might use it? It's like when teachers punish a whole class because of one misbehaving child; the misbehaving child keeps misbehaving, while everyone else suffers for it. There's always going to be cheaters in games, but the vast majority of players are honest. Communities are supposed to help each other and foster competition, but concealing strats does neither. A community that isn't open with each other can hardly be called a community at all.

  • @Nicklander
    @Nicklander Před rokem +360

    It’s incredible how skilled you have become making Trackmania documentaries in such a short amount of time. I would go as far and say that you might even be the best documentary maker.

  • @xSwitchB1ade
    @xSwitchB1ade Před rokem +96

    You should create an audio track that could be played alongside the map with beeps at consistent timings just before the inputs are needed. maybe 350-500ms before? The sound cues would likely be REALLY helpful.

    • @jorishenger1240
      @jorishenger1240 Před rokem +5

      I could try when i get home, if you reply to this reply in a week i remember

    • @romeolz
      @romeolz Před rokem +1

      ​@@jorishenger1240I'm slightly late

    • @jorishenger1240
      @jorishenger1240 Před rokem +1

      @@romeolz ty, ill do my best

    • @Error-ys5qj
      @Error-ys5qj Před rokem

      @@jorishenger1240how’s it coming?

    • @jorishenger1240
      @jorishenger1240 Před rokem

      @@Error-ys5qj fuck i forgor

  • @Rastats
    @Rastats Před rokem +153

    That my friend is an insane video, outstanding storytelling and very good editing!

  • @michaelwaters1358
    @michaelwaters1358 Před rokem +57

    I have not heard of you before but your narration and story building is excellent. Look forward to more videos.

  • @Iwatoda_Dorm
    @Iwatoda_Dorm Před rokem +25

    Goes to show that the best story tellers are the ones who have experienced it themselves. You seem like an absolute genius figuring these out and are a god send to the kacky participators. Especially for those rng maps, absolute legendary status xD.

  • @AwJack
    @AwJack Před rokem +23

    I never thought I'd be as interested as I was watching a video on such a simple yet intriguing premise in our favorite racing game. The presentation was spot on, and I found myself deeply engaged way more than I'd have ever anticipated. Excellent video man! You've earned a new sub, and I hope from others many more.

  • @toxin2591
    @toxin2591 Před rokem +33

    Awesome video, would be really cool to see more documentaries from you!

  • @Schmaniol
    @Schmaniol Před rokem +14

    your storytelling is amazing, keep on doing these types of videos and you'll go very far my man

  • @zefil2864
    @zefil2864 Před rokem +6

    Incredible documentary, great work put behind it, you can really tell thet youve got passion for both trackmania and youtube! Hope to see you make it far!

  • @TomasOlivaMusic
    @TomasOlivaMusic Před rokem +6

    Loved the vid. Happy to see somebody taking over the TM documentary torch since Wirtual only rarely posts those these days :) Here's to your 1M subs in a year or two! :)

  • @kju-uu8me
    @kju-uu8me Před rokem +3

    this video just randomly popped up in my side bar and I gotta say the first minute already reminded me of how I clicked on a wirtual video the first time, I think you can make it high up.

  • @jreynoldswrap
    @jreynoldswrap Před rokem +5

    I never put more than an hour into trackmania, but over the past year I've watched many many hours of Wirtual playing it. Tried some other content creators in trackmania and wasn't interested. BettaTM is the first trackmania player to make youtube content I enjoy equally to Wirtual. Great video! I was interested and engaged watching it.

  • @parknich081
    @parknich081 Před rokem +5

    bro is the next wirtual

  • @-mv
    @-mv Před rokem +6

    WOW! No wonder this quality seemed familiar. Only when you showed your previous video as a pop up at the end did I realize I've watched you before. Stellar quality, I'll subscribe for future content like this one. 👍

  • @Senkey15
    @Senkey15 Před rokem +11

    Great video and storytelling, would love to see more documentaries from you

  • @LuckersTurbo
    @LuckersTurbo Před rokem +8

    Really refreshing video, I enjoyed every single bit of it. Also, great storytelling keep it up!

  • @zoraa3406
    @zoraa3406 Před rokem +2

    Interesting video! You managed to drag us into the story and kept the viewer entertained through out the enitre video!
    Enjoyed listening along and made me fully watch it to the end. Amazing work Betta!

  • @eseilawimpershlaak
    @eseilawimpershlaak Před rokem +3

    What a gem! Subbed immediately! Looking forward to see more! Very good storytelling and editing!

  • @CubemasterXD
    @CubemasterXD Před rokem +5

    the drop at 5:28 was insane
    you truely "get" how to make fascinating videos!

  • @Laiteux
    @Laiteux Před rokem +5

    this was so well made, wow, please keep it up

  • @pepijnroth7566
    @pepijnroth7566 Před rokem +2

    Betta, this is amazing and very much fun to watch, please keep doing it!

  • @par8678
    @par8678 Před rokem +10

    We need more of this, what an incredible video

  • @yuakka
    @yuakka Před rokem +3

    damn bro your past two videos have been really high quality, keep it up

  • @braydonblyth5517
    @braydonblyth5517 Před rokem +1

    Love the video man, just came from the cheese police video and really enjoyed this video too. Hoping you make more 🙏

  • @lildmckay
    @lildmckay Před rokem +1

    This was fantastic! What a well-made video. The music choice and your delivery were perfect.

  • @ladyravendale1
    @ladyravendale1 Před rokem +1

    This video easily fits up there with Wirtal and Maximum’s videos! I can’t wait to see what you will make next!

  • @jickhertz4124
    @jickhertz4124 Před rokem +1

    Gave me shivers... the fact it was personal made it so much more meaningful! Congrats mate!

  • @SAMUSWAGGINS
    @SAMUSWAGGINS Před rokem +1

    Holy shit dude, wirtual2 has been found but with MORE in-depth analysis and concrete examples! Happy this vid found its way to my front page, well deserved +1 sub :)

  • @jjoorreenn
    @jjoorreenn Před rokem +2

    This feels like watching the start of something more. Keep it up man!

  • @zac-oros
    @zac-oros Před rokem +2

    Okay, here we go!!! Great content. Excited to see more from you

  • @xdCUPaCAT
    @xdCUPaCAT Před rokem +2

    Incredible video, the pacing, excitement, it was interesting the whole way through... Keep it up!

  • @exlpt2234
    @exlpt2234 Před rokem +5

    Such a good watch! Very well done!

  • @Hieufin
    @Hieufin Před rokem +2

    Bro. Day by day your videos are getting better, day by day i want to support you more

  • @tkienjoyer
    @tkienjoyer Před rokem +2

    "This came as a conplete shock, as no one in their right mind had though that four (frame perfect) inputs would ever be done by a human" gd players: hold my orange juice

  • @Arcsinx
    @Arcsinx Před rokem +12

    This is what we need, more long format videos like this is so good for trackmania as a whole like W guy showed.

    • @richardli4038
      @richardli4038 Před rokem +1

      W>L stopped bc the effort to profit ratio too high

    • @Arcsinx
      @Arcsinx Před rokem +1

      @@richardli4038 W guy might make profit with the second channel but he still puts out good content when he wants (kinda), its more passion towards the game than anything. Also its not with gameplay videos that youll stand out so making it with TM must mean long form videos like this, except if you stream.

    • @thedoczekpl
      @thedoczekpl Před rokem

      @@richardli4038 Wguy stopped because he forgot his password. He has already found it and seems to be back to releasing them monthly

    • @thedoczekpl
      @thedoczekpl Před rokem

      @@Arcsinx The best proof of what you're saying is looking at subscribers of his documentary and gameplay channel - the first one has twice as many as the second.

  • @WazaYTB
    @WazaYTB Před rokem +1

    I can't believe my eyes, you are an absolute legend dude. This game will never stop to amaze me!

  • @Stiruz
    @Stiruz Před rokem +2

    Amazing video! Keep it up, been longing for this type of content.

  • @Patittek
    @Patittek Před rokem +4

    Your videos are getting better and better good job!

  • @user-jr4ih7zk6o
    @user-jr4ih7zk6o Před 4 měsíci +1

    It's kinda insane that with low input strats keyboard became in some way better than analog devices and may become prefered input device for kacky.

  • @car8070
    @car8070 Před rokem

    excellent video! i hope you grow as a content creator, the production quality was absolutely amazing. enjoyed every second, props to you.

  •  Před 8 měsíci +2

    Leaving this comment here for me to try to estimate the actual timings of the inputs at 23:03 later (although I don't find such achievement very plausible).
    60fps setting.
    Note: this comment is obsolete because they've already found the timings of the imputs.
    23:03, frame 44: start of race (0.00)
    23:07, frame 19: earliest spotted instance of the right key being pressed (3.566 to 3.583 [from start of second: 0.316 to 0.333], thus 3.57 or 3.58)
    Note: frames 17 to 18 had the same distance time-wise between them than to frames 18 & 19 (so 1.667), so I assume the right press was made likely at 3.58.
    Conclusion: likely, 3.58 right press.
    23:07, frame 35: earliest spotted instance of the right key being released (3.816 to 3.833 [from start of second: 0.566 to 0.583], thus 3.82 or 3.83).
    Note: frames 33 to 34 had the same distance time-wise between them than to frames 34 & 35 (so 1.667).
    Conclusion: likely, 3.83 right release.
    Airbreak (unfinished): estimated 23:09, frame 41 (5.933 to 5.950).

  • @PugCuber
    @PugCuber Před rokem +17

    he finally revealed it…
    I’m so proud of you Betta guy

    • @ramdoula506
      @ramdoula506 Před rokem +1

      time to turn on them cheats heh ?!

    • @PugCuber
      @PugCuber Před rokem +7

      @@ramdoula506 NONONONONONO
      NOT THE SINON INCIDENT AGAIN PLEASE

    • @ramdoula506
      @ramdoula506 Před rokem

      @@PugCuber hehehe

  • @Ifinishedyoutube
    @Ifinishedyoutube Před rokem +2

    Top of my CZcams front page and I thought you were wirtual. Good job!

  • @sawyerbaumann1939
    @sawyerbaumann1939 Před 5 měsíci +1

    At 11:48 it Saïd Simo the greatest kacky player of all time because he won 3 kacky championships

  • @PanNic97
    @PanNic97 Před rokem +2

    Very nice video about something i never heard of even tho im quite involved in the trackmania community. Thank you for this video!

  • @Wilker_uwu
    @Wilker_uwu Před rokem

    this should also be an appreciation post on how much the devs thought out about future-proofing all sorts of verification and replicability into the game so long ago

  • @MaxenceFrenette
    @MaxenceFrenette Před 2 měsíci

    This is some Wirtual-level documentary video. Thank you so much, this was a great watch!

  • @vedad1932
    @vedad1932 Před rokem

    That video 100% deserves a sub. Thanks for taking the time to share!

  • @Cara.314
    @Cara.314 Před rokem +7

    i think it's worth mentioning how someone won Cup of the night using a low input strat, he'd found a perfect turn angle that could be held from the start that would result in a fast time on a track very hard to do consistently. track was called "deterministic deep dip." Would that be a zero input Strat?

    • @pjw-
      @pjw- Před rokem

      what about a low input strat on that ice pinball map xdd

    • @natentequechuor738
      @natentequechuor738 Před rokem +1

      Didn't they put some books against their controller to ensure the angle would be consistent ?

    • @thedoczekpl
      @thedoczekpl Před rokem

      @@natentequechuor738 Can't say it's unlikely, but there are other methods of ensuring the input value is correct - there are plugins which display percentage of input value, and such accuracy is usually enough (for example on bobsleigh)

  • @mohamadsalemamaraya224
    @mohamadsalemamaraya224 Před rokem +3

    i dont understand how underrated you are

  • @badmanw
    @badmanw Před rokem +1

    you've become my favorite tm youtuber because u have interesting topics and overall the editing and story is good🙂

  • @pjw-
    @pjw- Před rokem +2

    this video is so good I hope to see more of these in the future!

  • @kristian5335
    @kristian5335 Před rokem

    glad you mendtioned ILU , very nice video , ive been waiting to see that -150 run for quite a while :D

  • @juneydapps8042
    @juneydapps8042 Před rokem +2

    cheating sucks - but the 99% shouldn't be punished for the actions of the 1% - sick video bud - liked and subbed

  • @PretzelBS
    @PretzelBS Před rokem +1

    I’d like to point out that the #1 demon in geometry dash, Acheron, has 63 frame perfects at 60fps and 8 frame perfects at 120fps. It’s been beaten by 5 people

    • @bennettmp
      @bennettmp Před rokem

      I was thinking the same thing, gd players be crazy when it comes to frame perfects

    • @shadoww7301
      @shadoww7301 Před 14 dny

      geometry dash runs at 60 inputs per second but trackmania is 100 inputs per second

  • @Vacuna.
    @Vacuna. Před rokem +3

    Really enjoy your videos. Hope to see more of them

  • @TechX1320
    @TechX1320 Před rokem +2

    Sinon probably just used timed macros which a lot of keyboards and mice come with these days, or edited replay files. I use macro scripts in many games that have tedious tasks. Not so much an exploit but just tool assisted. I don't think sharing them is a big deal. Its just the same as sharing tips and tricks on any other track. Because one person did it, they're gate keeping what otherwise is completely safe to share

  • @VaelynTV
    @VaelynTV Před 8 měsíci

    I only play TM2020 and have never played TMNF, but I gotta say, your videos are very well put together and very enjoyable. Keep doing it!

  • @LuckAss10
    @LuckAss10 Před rokem +1

    very nice video bettaman, keep those documentaries coming and goddamn reveal more lowkeys for nubs like me :D

  • @kevinfoley7667
    @kevinfoley7667 Před rokem

    insane vibe with this video man. super high quality! easiest subscription ever

  • @sawyerbaumann1939
    @sawyerbaumann1939 Před 5 měsíci +1

    At 1:06 is where Simoo in one of your videos won the kacky 3 times I’m a FAN

  • @loupphok
    @loupphok Před rokem +2

    Always a pleasure to watch your videos!

  • @ggbirdymill1618
    @ggbirdymill1618 Před rokem

    Very great video and some truly wise words. Thank you for sharing your achievements and thoughts!

  • @matiaskekki2998
    @matiaskekki2998 Před rokem

    Fantastic video! Glad to see more rising creators from the TM community.

  • @zthebluemoth6799
    @zthebluemoth6799 Před rokem +1

    man that was a killer intro, got me hooked lol

  • @3gggggggg
    @3gggggggg Před 3 měsíci

    2:57 the comparison here is crazy

  • @gaellederrey8204
    @gaellederrey8204 Před rokem

    Are you the new and improved Wirtual? Amazing vid! Congrats mate! I hope we'll see more of these!

  • @TheOneWhoHasABadName
    @TheOneWhoHasABadName Před rokem

    these “consistent” low input strats are really interesting. as someone who doesn’t play trackmania but plays celeste, where top players do arcane rituals to set up subpixel positioning to clear a room consistently for deathless challenges (or for less skilled players to cheese a room), the low input strats in trackmania feel a little bit similar
    of course, the strats found in trackmania often require hitting an input timing less than 1 celeste frame, which is a little bit harder lol

  • @Dxtchi
    @Dxtchi Před rokem

    cool to see my event featured in the video! awesome work as always

  • @Yerta_i
    @Yerta_i Před rokem +1

    I thoghut u were wirtual.. LOL ur so good at storytelling! you has earned my sub! I'm looking foward to watch more viedos by you!

  • @Spely
    @Spely Před rokem

    Insane video, explanations are perfect and we can hear your passion for the game

  • @ABaumstumpf
    @ABaumstumpf Před 10 měsíci

    So those maps are prime candidates for TAS bruteforcers - Test all start-delays automatically.
    There are quite a few around and some do allow for speedups to make it not take all night.

  • @richtercl98
    @richtercl98 Před rokem

    really enjoyed to hear the storys behind this kinda starts - didnt even know they existed before!

  • @grimreefer213
    @grimreefer213 Před rokem

    Great video and awesome work finding these strats!

  • @sergevalet
    @sergevalet Před rokem

    this is AWESOME! keep it up bro, great work

  • @malcomb111
    @malcomb111 Před rokem

    Amazing storytelling on the vid and congrats on the accomplishment!

  • @nukewurld
    @nukewurld Před rokem +2

    This channel going to the moon

  • @relyT
    @relyT Před rokem +2

    if you keep making great content like this one will eventually go viral

  • @spazghost
    @spazghost Před rokem

    Excellent video. Pressing both keys at once with one finger is a really smart start for ubers

  • @Alexey-qs6nr
    @Alexey-qs6nr Před 5 měsíci

    right now it is up to kacky map creators to build such maps that 2-3 LIS are not enough to beat them. But it can probably only help partially, so that the rest of the map is finished manually, something like use LIS to get guaranteed uber at the beginning. Such approach is more immune to the cheaters.

  • @jasonknoll5170
    @jasonknoll5170 Před rokem

    amazing video bro. Glad i discovered your channel!

  • @Eddyithink
    @Eddyithink Před rokem

    GG! Sick video!
    I eventually figured you were making a video out of it, hence not posting the clip yet hahaha

  • @Jackson-lt8td
    @Jackson-lt8td Před rokem

    Only 1 yr old channel your videos are so good you deserve more subscribers

  • @lucasnatal8067
    @lucasnatal8067 Před rokem +1

    I love this trackmania stories! This videos make me try to be part of the game "history" somehow

  • @nicholasspicer5171
    @nicholasspicer5171 Před rokem

    that NickName guy is insane. great video!!

  • @solidshark91493
    @solidshark91493 Před rokem

    Havent been here before, usually just watch Wirtual and actually got back into the game recently. Ive been dreading trying to learn all the techniques that have developed over the years to play kacky and this actually gives me a little hope lmao

  • @keelanruffner5440
    @keelanruffner5440 Před rokem

    18 in the summer 2023 campaign has a single brake-tap setup for the wr shortcut

  • @toolng1798
    @toolng1798 Před rokem +2

    I've been doing low input strats without knowing it lol
    On straight maps with a luck factor I start with pf and then changing one little input to see what happens

  • @Cacte
    @Cacte Před rokem +1

    Really Great Documentary !

  • @SupraSav
    @SupraSav Před 5 měsíci

    The dedication to this game that should have probably been released in '04, is baffling to me.

  • @ivanrezic
    @ivanrezic Před 6 měsíci

    Hey nice videos! What is the discord server where all these discussions and shares happen (e.g. igntul's discovery)?

  • @FalloutsTehevilone
    @FalloutsTehevilone Před rokem

    Love this and the last video you put out! Hope to see more soon.

  • @noehtm2432
    @noehtm2432 Před rokem +1

    ofc u found input start on almost all my ilu map xdd ggs tho amazing video

  • @zzzFaw
    @zzzFaw Před rokem +1

    amazing vid once again please keep doing these

  • @PlanetHydrangea
    @PlanetHydrangea Před rokem +6

    i am overly impressed with how good this video is
    if only u werent so god damn busy we might actually get a "the history of kackiest kacky, i guess" video xdd
    ggs on the wrs and looking forward to see more video essays!!!!!
    edit: nvm i got censored in this video --
    xdd still wicked cool

  • @sawyerbaumann1939
    @sawyerbaumann1939 Před 5 měsíci +2

    At 14:55 is the sumo one in his video