James Penton. A Jehovah's Witness Inquisition. The History and Impact of Disfellowshipping/Shunning
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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2024
- From our 2003 archives. Professor James Penton attended the " Out of The Watchtower - into Christ" convention of former Jehovah's Witnesses in England and Wales, and discusses how the Watchtower evolved its doctrine on disfellowshipping and shunning by twisting scripture and the impact this has had on many Watchtower victims. James also provides a great insight into the Watchtowers early leadership
Thank you James Penton 🙏
Long live Penton!!!
When was this recorded? So this is what evil apostates are like? I loved your talk, James. I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said. Thank you for your insight.
"it knows that it has to change" Wow! James you ol prophet, that's exactly what they're trying to do and even more so now. God bless you!
The only mention the Holy Bible makes of shunning refers to shunning all appearances of evil, as stated in 2 Thessalonians Chapter 5:22-23, which simply means to avoid taking part in anything that is evil, such as fornication, lying, murder, stealing, etc., anything that God does not want us to do. Thank you for pointing out the awful practice of total or indiscriminate shunning.
Which church are preaching the gospel of the kingdom around the world to all nations as Jesus Christ said? Matthew 10:16, 24:24, 28:19-20, Mark 13:10, if not only only only the Jehovah's witnesses..
No Christian church knew anything about former JWs disfellowshipped and ruined. I crawled alone in my life through jobs and education as I could, living single, raising children, rebounding, failing, falling, getting up again...Sir, all through the years. I made it. Jesus is still with me, but PTSD still plagues my dreams, my trust, my decisions about people. And now I’m old. There was a time after harsh WT “inquisition”(so true), that I was living in my car. I even attempted to go back so I could be loved and helped by my JW brother who was told over the years to think of me “...as one dead.” Again, a woman in front of three elders and having, in writing, to describe every horror and hardship out in the evil world so they could prove the world was wicked and I could not make it without Jehovah. Then shunning as I stood in the KH without greeting or welcome. I broke again. I could not do it. I could not deny Jesus, I could not agree with the Blood doctrine. My JW accused me of rebelliousness and had to still think of me as dead. All I could think of was suicide. But I had children and aging parents. I worked two jobs and moved so many times because of rents I could not afford so my night classes and my car were vital in my life so I could achieve. That “evil government” I was taught to disdain in JW, became my resource for housing, food, and education. WT did nothing. I was “dead.” When my JW brothers wife died, I could attend a memorial flouting Paradise but elders made sure I was kept apart from comforting my brother. When my parents died, he could not attend the Catholic chapel. When this same brother had a Stroke , the elders reminded him I was dead and I could not help him. Now I don’t know if he is alive. I. Would t have the strength to sue that empire
All I can do is hate the WT as a business and walk away and if anyone cares to listen, I’m here. You see, until podcasts started, there WAS no help for ex JWs. So only NOW have I even begun to grieve. And at the step in the grieving process that I am, I find it hard to be kind, Sir. Merry Christmas! I now celebrate Christmas! Thank you for hearing me.
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Thank you for sharing. You are stronger than you know. I was in over 50 years and am now PIMO. I am here for you and love you my dear sister ❤❤❤
Thank you for sharing, so many can relate and I am so thankful that you can now continue to find your feet and find some sort of healing through all the hurt and darkness you have experienced, all of us ex witnesses would throw our arms around you and give you the big hug you deserve if we could. A lot of what you shared reminded me in part of this former witness testimony here: czcams.com/video/GFFSRFx8hh0/video.html&ab_channel=TheKingdomPublishersJourney-ChristianexJW
I know that everything you have shared here is true and that you have experienced much more than what you have shared here.
Shunning is a spiritual death sentence that you do not deserve. It is by no means Jehovah's loving provision. It is not discipline, no, it is a punishment intended for us to not be heard. Yet I do hear you and your pain. Being mad at the Watchtower is part of the grieving process that can lead to healing.
((((( 💔 HUG'S 💔 )))))
I am so sorry honey. I myself have been treated very badly by my whole family who were Jehovah's Witnesses and by Jehovah's Witnesses organization.
Can I tell you something? I've done a lot of research on Jehovah's Witnesses that religion is one of the most demonic religions that you can be involved in. But then again so is the Catholics. I don't know if there's a religion on the face of the Earth that God approves of. But you know what? I almost think that we were set apart from that religion because Jehovah and Jesus have something special for us.
I have to agree with you...their is a pure spirit of hate and incredible meanness that's present in the organisation...and it comes
from Rutherford...Hugh respect to
you , I've read Apocalypse Delayed
Baloney
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 36What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
Some women are meek and quiet and submissive
These are the .godly ones.
But the loud and bossy and those who don’t know the first thing about being a man, but try so hard to be
Are disgusting in their filth
Even a Christian cannot brush aside the worship of Jehovah as God. In Revelation 1:5 the Son of God called himself "Jesus Christ, 'The Faithful Witness.'" When on earth as a man he was a Jew, an Israelite, to whose nation the words of Isaiah 43:10 were written: "'You are my witnesses, ' is the utterance of Jehovah, 'even my servant whom I have chosen.'" Jesus demonstrated that he was a faithful and true witness of Jehovah God. His genuine disciples today must be the same kind of witnesses, Jehovah's.
But the organization isn’t who we should follow. They keep changing doctrine. Follow yawheh through Jesus.
Follow no man. Governing Body is the Evil Slave. Cant you see that? Open your eyes
Do you really think God has a Name? Do you really think we are worthy to utter the name of God? Even Jesus called Him, “Father”. Title. Who do you think you are?
Christ slone our hope is found, He is my strength my rock my song....
If you have not the son, then you have not the Father... Rhe New covenant is through Chrisg.. So we are Witnesses of Christ..... Christ is the center of our salvation.. The focus is Christ. His righteousness
I am a nostic..not agnostic. I adhere to them who did not adhere to Catholic or protestant or jew. Or anything
I respect that. I’m so disgusted with everything now. I still hold on to Jesus. But no religion whatsoever. I hear you.
Out of darkness?
He made it about as far as that betrayer Judas did.
No light in this one, only darkness.
Such a disgusting thing to say, you must be a JW
@@Tomsnothere295 What are you talking about? This guy is in on the Beroean pickets BS, he is a watch tower freemason.
Actually your to far gone
Stockholm sindrom is strong in that area
Day to day preaching is disgusting? 🤦🏻