Deskmeet B660: More Like Desk Meat! 128gb / 20tb dGPU in a Tiny Package
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Don't let the small form factor fool you, this thing packs a punch! Meet Deskmeet from ASRock. If you want a mini desktop computer as your gaming pc, well you are in luck! This dude holds a B660 motherboard, DDR4 memory, a 20cm long graphics card (RX 6600 in our case), and the power supply all inside an 8-liter case! Cool stuff bro!!
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This would be awesome if it had ECC support and space for a 2nd 3.5in drive, be a perfect TrueNAS unit then! I do appreciate that's far from the market it's aimed for, would be a great little PC for more than just day to day usage. Nice find Wendell 👍
I think for that you could still use this without a gpu and print some HDD brackets. You could probably fit 3 drives, maybe even a 4th
Asrock's page says you can mount a second 3.5in drive in the GPU area using those four little tabs that stick out. 5:32 has a clear shot of them. Though I don't know how much clearance that would leave for the GPU. Maybe only single slot.
Check out the am4 version. A pro cpu should do ecc
@@josephcameron5294 The manual says you can't use a GPU if you put a 3.5in drive there, and only a single slot GPU if you put a 2.5in drive there.
@Bikerchris The AMD version supports ECC, apparently.
Aahhh, it has 3x SATA 3.0 Gbps interfaces on the motherboard...
I gotta get one of these B660 versions!
I love these looks at the ASRock mini PCs. I built a DeskMini for an HTPC after your original review of that form factor.
9:51 Rad job, editor
I do what I can lol ~ Editor Autumn
One thing to note is that the PSU is custom with a reversed fan that sucks air into the case and exhausts onto the CPU cooler. Unless you can reverse the fan of another PSU or figure out another cooling solution, you're going to thermal throttle the CPU rather quickly. Anyway, great video! I ended up buying one of these and added a i31 2100f, RTX 3050, NVEMe drive, 16Gb of RAM, and an Intel AX m.2(e) card to get wifi6 (unit comes with AC m.2). Awesome SSF unit!
Not a big issue, just open up any power supply that you want to use and just flipped the fan cable. Voila, you got a "custom" psu.
I think you hit the nail right on the head when you mentioned it's efficiency. It's not a fire breathing performance juggernaut but it is a well-performing efficient machine. I appreciate seeing machines like this. They make more sense than these tricked out hot boxes that look great, but heat up the house.
Super Awesome video share Wendell ! ! !... thoroughly enjoyed watching You toss, turn & flip the interior case (maybe to "find" the "TOP"??)... that's when my old standby tools are front & center for me, "scotch tape & sharpie"... short strip of tape down 1st & then apply an "Arrow/TOP" to properly orientate the case (or item needing it)... keeps it clean so when it's time to Sell/Trade, just pull off the tape and " WHA - LA ".. cleaner than a whistle!!
Like the tiny fun bits on your video, and what a cool office build..
Very nice Wendell! Keep it up
I wonder how many 3.25 or 2.5 inch drives you could cram in it with some custom 3D printed brackets and enough room for a controller card? This Deskmeet has so much potential, super cool!
I've built many DeskMini X300 desktops for non-gamer friends and they love having their desk space back. I'll probably recommend the DeskMeet for the next friend that wants to upgrade their gaming rig. I wish you had reviewed the AMD version of the DeskMeet. The lower power CPU makes more sense in this form factor. Losing the second M.2 slot isn't a deal breaker.
the 12100 is a great contender for lower power CPU and they are fairly cheap ;-)
Thank you for this - this could also be perfect for friend's childrens first gaming system.
You can literally upgrade the pc to the level of standard gaming pc, so its probably the last you ever need, im talking about 144hz 4k gaming, unless you are into competitive game
I considered this system (the X300 version) but I went with the DeskMini X300W with a Ryzen 5 4600G, 16GB G.Skill DDR4-3200 CL20 RAM kit, 1TB Crucial MX500 SATA SSD, 1TB WD Blue SN570 M.2 NVMe SSD, and Noctua L9a-AM4 Cooler breaking out to a Sapphire Pulse RX 6600 in an x16 M.2 Dock (for gaming at home).
7:46 - don't do that, do it... lol
8:33 at that moment we found out Wendell is actually a cat in disguise
Now in stock in the US at Newegg.
12:34 If I understood this correctly it is not a regular power supply though, is it? I think it is pulling in air from the back and exhausting it towards the CPU cooler while regular power supplys pull in air from the fan opening and exhaust it out the back.
So when you put in a regular power supply you would create more of a negative pressure situation and make the CPU and power supply "fight" for air. To be fair, with low power components this will probably be fine, but still something to keep in mind.
it is not a regular power supply.
So it goes the Dell way with the front IO, huh? But since it's ITX otherwise, I guess you could still replace it down the line should it fail/require an upgrade, as long as you're fine with either giving up on front IO, or printing some custom bracket for it.
not unusual in MINI pc's these are not your regular ITX/ATX/MATX motherboards/cases ;-) where Dell operates in the normal off the shelf but decided to use special crap noone can reuse
There is also a AMD Ryzen Version that might be a little cheaper, the Deskmeet X300. Its almost the same besides afaik it only supports 1 nvme SSD. But keep in Mind the GPU could be up to 2 Slot width without any head room over that! Another Option like the Deskmini, the Deskmeet also supports APUs like the 2200G and up and CPUs up to 5000.
the deskmeat x300 supports all 65w ryzen chips, not sure about it to buy it though
I need this to have 3x5.25 bays with a clear shot to the PCIe slots... for reasons.
Also, i hope raptor lake gives us a 12300 with 4P+8E
Still a great little system though
I remember watching a recent video where Wendell was working with a case that had several 5.25" bays into which he installed adapters for 2.5" drives. It is is extremely hard to find any case companies that make units with 5.25" bays, since all anyone wants to buy these days are cases with as many glass sides as possible. So your collection of cases to choose from will be small and likely expensive since they won't be making them in as large of quantities. That is why I will be using the two old Thermaltake cases I have until they become unusable for whatever reason. They each have 3 5.25" bays. One has the rest of the space as 3.5", and the other has 3 3.5" and 3 2.5". They don't have front usb3 which can be a pain, but simply plugging in a 18" usb 3 cable to one of the rear ports makes it manageable. I'm not a 10yr old boy so I don't need or want RGB infesting my system, so as the saying goes, you will have to pry these cases from my cold, dead hands....
@@SirReptitious This is the reasons i was referring, though i have the 24 bay and the 8 bay, and planned on combining them
I feel like AsRock needs to get into making laptops. (do they already? I dont know.) Because i feel like they would make killer laptops for fair prices which would destroy the laptop market with all their overpriced bullshit. Imagine an AMD laptop that was both budget but powerful using the new 6000 series chips. man asrock could rock the market.
Bought the Ryzen (AM4) version. Right now I have a Athlon 2200G installed, but plans for a Ryzen 7 5700x or G and RX6600. Nice upgrade from my X300 DeskMini.
@21:48 -- Yes. Please. VMs, Proxmox, GPU Passthrough, and a Maxed out Version.
Was there ever a video on that?
Shame it's not 2.5GbE
Personally I'm waiting for the deskmini version to be available somewhere!
the deskmini has been around for ages already
I was just thinking of that DeskMeet but an AMD model with 5600x/5800 and challenger ITX 6600, must be great for living room PC, if manage to find 12core 5900 (yes, it's only 65W !!! wiiiii), would be even great for little gaming/multimedia NAS-like box with two vmachines and 128 gigs
Could not get pricing or stock, but this is perfect for a middle-aged power user. With the density of today, you can get away with this factor thanks to both competent CPU and GPU. With LVM or rdiff you could get away with M.2 and SATA for expanded storage. VFIO for handling multiple platforms.
Chances are you are not going to use the additional power of K CPUs if you build it with as your pet machine. The way we used to do things :)
Planning on buying two of these. One with a 12100 and an X550-T2 for opensense. The other with a 12500, a single slot 6400, and an asus hyper m.2 card. Slap six 1TB m.2 drives for an unraid.
Pretty cool little rig, would be a great little office machine.
Wonder if one of those quad slot M.2 PCIE cards for alt uses.
I wish that I had a class teach, when I was in school, like Wendell.
“This is ridiculous…in the best possible way!”
looking forward to the B680 Deskmeet with ECC support
DeskMeet X300 support ECC memory.
Do you think they'll make an AMD one? (edit: there is!) My Deskmini X300 could do with some more sata ports
Looks like a great alternative to the aged HPE Microserver Gen10+ for HomeLabs... Superior memory capacity, superior CPU, builtin M.2 for OS and caching, with space for 2 SATA 2.5" SSDs... would have been better if it had SFX PSU for more internal space for the cooler, though maybe some of the thinner coolers out there could be even better than the box one from Intel, I mean some slim Noctua or Cryorig etc.? Or to at least allow 4+ SATA 2.5"... it could make a huge difference... As to the GPU, the one you used is not a good choice - if it's desktop oonly, then OK, but you'd want something like the older Quadro T1000 instead for extra CUDA support or media-usage... Or maybe even better, once Intel GPUs are available, a pairing of such with the CPU/MoBo for the extended QSV feature-set since QSV still offers better quality/compressed-size than NVENC/VCE.
You could use a HDPlex or a PicoPSU, that will enable a larger cooler and/or more 2.5/3.5 drives.
This case design just reminds me of those all aluminum ITX cases from Lian Li that have been discontinued.
Wendell - seriously, you can't keep making comments about taking the mill to computer parts without actually doing it at SOME point! When do we get the unnecessarily labor intensive Level1 custom PC(...server?) build?
Still have mixed feelings about Alder Lake, a bit iffy on it, but I do dig this build. LOVE what all ASRock does, some of the most interesting products on the market!
👍👏I almost bought one, but what i dont like, the board and the case are unique, so no upgrade, replace, repair🤔
Throw a 4port intel Nic in that and run Proxmox/PFSense in it!
You know, I used to keep a cone of gyro meat on my desk, rotating over an open flame. This ended in tragedy one day when my uncle came over to throw his piss jugs away and my pet monitor lizard got out of his enclosure and bit my uncle's face off.
Would've made sense to make it an external power brick here and provide 2 x 3.5 HHDs instead
It does fit two 3.5s.
i have one of these! instead of mounting a 2.5 inch, I have it behind the graphics card + I put a noctua fan on the 3.5" mount! It works wonderfully and keeps everything well below 50 (sitting at 45 on the VRM right now!!!!). i've got so much thermal room i'm going to try putting an i7-13th gen in it and give it hell.
I'd be interested in doing this! What size fan did you use, and do you have any pictures? And would it still fit if I'm using a dual slot graphic card?
@@Tesseus i don't have any pics, and honestly if i opened the case it might ruin it because it's sort of held in by tension. you have to... 'massage' the ATX power connector and make sure you're not putting any untoward pressure on the RAM slotsg. it's a shame you don't get a lot of power delivery control on these boards because i've got this one nice and chilly!
also it's a standard 120mm chassis fan lol
does it support CEC?
"I don't even know why I'd need it!" But I need it! LMAO.
Can i get 3-2.5 ssd in it? because the specs says upto 5 drives 2nvme 3 satas but i cannot find where to put 3rd sata
Reminds me of DoubleMeat Palace from Buffy.
I'm still Rockin my X99 AsRock OC Formula w/ Xeon E5-1660v4.
See what I did there.
Can you try to rotate the fan inside the PSU to blow air on the CPU and VRMs and check again the temperatures?
Another very informative review! Greetings from Greece!
Asrock claims the fan is flipped in the marketing on their site.
Im gonna wait for the deskmini B560
I see you used a "not-ltt" brand screw driver to open the case.
I've seen several videos on the Desk meet...but none answer the crucial question:WHERE CAN I GET ONE???
can get one just fine at the computer stores here...
@@LiLBitsDK Thanks--got mine at Newegg. (I went for the X300.)
I wish you had provided a picture of the inside of the box after you had the power supply installed. It seems like the cabling would be kind of ugly on the inside (as are most builds).
is that meet on your desk, or are you just happy to see me
Does, Gigabyte RTX 4060 windforce oc will fit?
haha it's funny, i was thinking of a place to put this i could use this beast and wanted to add it to cart when Wendell put it perfectly "i dont even need it"
500 watt pico PSU would make this a fun little water cooled project
Pretty nifty. That Rome ASRock ITX is the same size do I sense a Rome DeskMeet in the near future?
I couldn't help but notice the sneaky browser tab about Malenia in the background. Has someone been playing Elden Ring? :D
Ah yes another perfect Asrock product they will never actually get on shelves
oh? I can get all their mini pc's just fine?
The only deal breaker is the use of non-standard ITX, else it meets everything a SFF person wants (maybe except watercooling, additional RGB, and/or even smaller size such as those
their older deskmini's were not even ITX either, did you whine about those too?
@@LiLBitsDK they were smaller.
I tried the boxed cooler on my asus itx b660 board... would not work. The pins just screamed "NOOOO", and popped off.. I find the stock cooler hence - cr@p.
I cannot find these anywhere..ebay, Gumtree...PC retailers...no where.
Portable VFIO setup with 12700 :)
Where is the ECC support Asrock? You were the chosen one!
The other comments mention that there is an AMD version of this! With a Ryzen Pro CPU, (UDIMM) ECC should work afaik. (Might also work with a non-Pro CPU? But might also not.)
@@Blacklands Hm, that's interesting, thanks. So Asrock is the chosen one after all.
Yes the spec sheet says that ECC is supported by the board so as long as CPu supports ECC it is OK.
The non-PRO APUs can't support ECC because AMD has blocked that, but the PRO APUs do indeed work with ECC
that included psu has a reversed fan, it sucks air in
loving those 4 DIMMs
Yeah that's cool n all, but can it run Crysis?
all jokes aside. This is a pretty cool mini ITX build, maybe a Low power under TV "Console"? :v
I think he may have ingested his pain killers this morning.....
6:44 OK so what's with the bar of radioactive soap?
So 4 P-cores is 80, and 6 is less than 200...i really just want to get a dual socket mobo...
Could you fit a Be quiet PureLoop 120 Water cooler without a GPU
As consumers, we consume... Are you sure we can't take just a small bite?😁
Its not sold anywhere. Why they bother?
Seems like a great case but I hate a case that breathes through the bottom for the exact reason you mentioned. If you have to put the computer on carpet, a bottom vent will be negatively affected. Also, I hate feet on a computer. If I were on a boat, where the room could pitch in any direction then feet would be a good idea but if you have a stable floor then feet only make it hard to pull a PC out of it's location under the desk. And rubber feet are the worst because they tend to stick to the floor. The jarring up and down that the computer experiences (the washboard effect) when you drag it across the floor is really good (not) for it. And a computer with rubber feet on a carpet is un-draggable. I hate feet on a computer. The best cases have a little bump out in the floor of the case that smoothly contact the surface you set it on (whether desk or floor). Whether carpet of bare floor, such a case is easily slid into and out of position. If you're on a boat, however, feet are appropriate.
never EVER put ANY PC on a carpet... PERIOD...
@@LiLBitsDK - Because of the static electricity potential? I agree.
@@GizmoFromPizmo no for all the crap dust and blocked airflow static electricity outside the case doesn't matter at all
Sadly it missing a second pcie slot, preferably x8 with an open back.
sounds like you want a MATX system, don't look at mini PC's then
A dumb question. Why no one makes ITX boards with 4 ddr slots if this claims to be ITX?
this is ITX board, not mini-ITX board. It is bigger.
That Wendy's ad is from 1984!
With an SFX PSU, can we fit a U12S and maybe a 12600k?
Is this a standard mini itx? Great vid and content.
no...
i saw some coverage on the ryzen version and immediately fell in love! its a very similar layout to the DIY 8L full custom cpu/gpu loop build i've made and am very proud of, but i used a B450i at the time and i'm particularly smitten with these 4dimm slot, 2x m.2 gen 4 slot motherboards! absolutely everything i could wish for in an exquisitely mini package!
do they support bifurication?
i'd love to build an igpu based server with one of the affordable 4x4NVME add in cards or similar. split one of the onboard m.2 slots into more satas, use an itx power supply and i think you could get at least 8 2.5" and 5 m.2 drives into this thing with printed brackets or double sided tape! its all solid state so its fine!
shame its only got gb LAN, that might need a workaround too. but honestly as a little home use data center, wifi6 is probably ok right?
~swoon~
I'd also be interested in the bifurcation feature. How did you end up?
I got one of this, is compatible with 3600nhz rams ? 128gb?
Can we call this motherboard form factor ITX-L?
Does floatplane get this video?
It's been on floatplane for about a week ~Editor Autumn
@@Level1Techs I apologize. I missed it. Thank you!
It looks like a better Lian Li TU-100, it definitely uses the space much better.
Screw in the bottom
Wendel is everything a home server? Jk I know the answer is yes
Someone get this man an iFixit toolkit!
Woot! No thanks to proprietary motherboards (integrated front IO) but interesting nonetheless.
most mini pc's are proprietary they are not the same ITX/ATX/MATX standard ya know...
Is this going to be another desk mini Max? And by that I mean a really cool idea that never actually goes on sale.
it's in the stores *shrug*
@@LiLBitsDK I've not found it in any stores. Micro center: no Amazon: no Newegg: no
@@matjam421 well we have it here in Denmark :D both AMD and Intel versions
@@LiLBitsDK I can't find it anywhere in the US
@@matjam421 it will come they just launched the product... same with every new thing don't expect it instantly
Wish it had more io though
I'm new to building pcs. you guys think i could run dark souls 3 with this and core i3 12100f and an rx 6400?
Try to get a 6600 but should be ok
I bought a R5 5600 184.99 and have it overclocked to 4.7 ghz all core and a R7 1700 cooler and its at 45c watching this video.
so it's 45C while pretty much idling... how is it doing running hard then?
@@LiLBitsDK It was running cinebench r23 at 95 c.I back off to 4.5 ghz and went down on the voltage on my X470 Gigabyte motherboard to 0.096 and now it runs at 83 c on cinebench r23 i do have a new cooler coming today an ID-214 se 180 watt cooler should make a difference.
@@stevenanderson3205 use a proper cooler then
Will it fit with zotax rtx 4070 dual fan?
I have a zotac 2070 in mine, I had to bend the backplate but you could just take it off
I you get one of those Kioxia enterprise SSDs in there you can also have many terabytes of SSD storage (I believe even > 20TB with their current best)
I was wonder how would this could handle 20TB of storage, until you bring up the 16TB drive ...
any modern sata connecter can handle 20TB no issue ya know... it's ages ago we had a 2TB/4TB limit
@@LiLBitsDK Well at first I thought consumer drives are at the largest ... like 10TB. And I thought this wouldn't fit too many of them
I didn't think about enterprise drives at all.
But again, even with 10TB drives. Fitting 2 of them should not be a problem with case this big.
Or maybe I'm just not up-to-date about the harddisk drive size nowadays. All hdd I have are 4TB.
@@WutipongWongsakuldej well here they just list "harddrives" they don't differ between consumer and enterprise... they just list em all and you pick the one you want, pay for it and they ship it to you and they go up to 20TB it seems but quite a few different ones around 16TB nad 18TB as well
Hmm, homelab potentials....
I really wish the general quality and company support / warranty services were better on AsRock. I generally avoid them as a company because of this. And no ECC? Hard pass.
Plus their aftercare / BIOS / UEFI support is lacking on a ton of boards.
Why do people still call it OLOY? it's YOLO backwards!!!
I have a feeling this PC was turned into a studio PC for the show :P
1:09 Next time put pickle Rick on focus
does this come with motherboard?
Yes
Try Gaming 1080P 120fps without BPU card. AMD Can do it.
Asrock X99 itx could do 256GB using 2x 128 lrdimm
Only briefly. Intel pushed out a microcode update nerfing this capacity