Eurovision 1963: Nothing’s as it seems | Super-cut with animated scoreboard
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- An edited down version of the Eurovision Song Contest 1963 from London, with a scoreboard using today’s technology. This all started as a lockdown project!
This edit will give a flavour of the evening (Saturday 23rd March) with the BBC commentary from David Jacobs (although, as in 1960, not during the voting).
Having hosted in 1959 and 61, 1963 would prove too much for RTF’s bank balance, but the problem with the 62 result is that the next two down the list were micro-state Monaco and then the last hosts Luxembourg. They both refused to take it on, and so the BBC were offered it (I wonder if Yugoslavia were considered).
Luckily for the Contest the BBC are keen EBU members, and they had a relatively new building to show off. BBC Television Centre, or TVC to fans, had been officially opened a few months after the 1960 hosting. It was the largest building of its kind in the UK and thoroughly state of the art. I’m lucky enough to know people who worked there (I only visited once) and all I hear about is how magical the place was - a maze of offices and studios that housed some extraordinarily creative people working on culturally significant projects. I’ll post some links in the comments if you want to deep-dive, but if you’re fan of the mighty British TV industry, there’s a chance one of your vintage favourites was made there.
Therefore, this Contest is a radical change to CLT’s production - firstly opening with helicopter(!) shots and a smart, modern set full of mirrors and statement lights. Studios TC3 and TC4 were used, the two studios that were finished at the time. TC1, the largest in the complex, would go on to host flagship productions like Election Night, and globally known shows like Graham Norton - it’s ripe for Eurovision, but it didn’t open until 1964.
TC3 was earmarked for drama, and TC4 for light entertainment. In the end, that’s what we got. TC3 was built for speech production, so the audience, scoreboard and veteran of ’60, Katie Boyle, were based there. TC4 had a variable acoustic system involving microphones and speakers around the walls, ideal for orchestras. Due to being in a studio and being far too early for anything ‘personal’ in the microphone department, the artists could perform without standing in front of one - boom mics out of shot would pick up their voices. This freed them up to move around and use props more than before.
As there were no mics on camera though, there’s always be accusations that singers were lip synching. There’s also technical flourishes we haven’t seen before, like every artist looking towards the same camera at the end of their performance, remarkably well timed. Props and different sets raise the question about timing, although there were much longer ‘postcards’ (not in the modern sense), so much so David Jacobs seemed to run out of things to say. So what wasn’t live? Who knows, I don’t want to unnecessarily take away from an extraordinary technical achievement, but it’s also lightyears ahead of what we’ve seen before.
The production changes were followed by an excellent voting sequence. If Norway had had their house in order, the sequence would have been just as tense as what panned out, with DEN & SUI on 37 points and ITA on 33, with 1 country left to vote. Unfortunately, that wasn’t to be. Norway appeared to alter their vote when they were not ready the first time, Swiss votes were literally removed from the board and given to the Danish at the last moment. One final illusion in a production full of them.
DESIGN AND THE BOARD
63 was supposed to follow my 1960 board, and the core of it does. I had planned to replace images of the Royal Festival Hall will ones of TVC…but then I remembered, I don’t own any copyrights. In fact, I’ve accredited the 1960 photo I used but it does make it risky. I also wanted to achieve something lighter, and went about recreating the set. My best find, which will be linked below, is Television Centre fan and former employee who’s recreated the Washington Post font seen on all the early signage. I couldn’t help but use it everywhere I could. I know it’ll divide some people, but there’s no typeface that could encapsulate the building more than that.
Approaching the confusing scoring was always going to be difficult. I felt the best thing to do was to remove all the Norwegian votes, but I am aware the drama is in the vote change during the last round. I’ve attempted to keep both, maybe that’s a mistake, but it’s what felt right.
TRANSFER NEWS (source: Wiki)
For the SECOND time, none.
INTERVAL ACT
On yer bike! (Must have been dizzy by the end)
CREDITS
@Lucas Hammar for the show upload,
Flags: countryflags.com
All Copyright belongs to BBC.
00:00 Intro
03:35 Song super-cut
23:46 Interval
23:36 Voting intro
26:44 The reorder board 63
40:51 The Final Round
43:27 Recap, data & reprise - Hudba
A few other things I couldn’t fit in the description:
- A big thank you again to those who’ve supported the channel on ko-fi/thereorderboard! Obviously 1964 provides some challenges and it’ll take me a bit of time. I’ve also done 7 boards pretty much back-to-back, so now might be a good time to fold in a weekend off. I’ll keep tinkering with bits so hopefully it won’t take too long!
- I hope you don’t mind how I approached the final round. If I just showed my board (with the Norwegian votes omitted), you wouldn’t get the reason why Katie Boyle and the audience is so confused. I haven’t built the facility to ‘rewind’ points, and I don’t think I wanted to just recreate what we see in 1963. I’m having enough trouble keeping the ‘CanWin’ function honest with all the voting system changes too! I’m sure someone won’t like it, but that’s OK. I’ve put ‘messages’ at the bottom as I know some like to watch a section and comment immediately ‘that’s wrong’ so hopefully that’ll mitigate that a bit.
- There’s so much to talk about with the production, the songs almost get overlooked. For me, Denmark is the rightful winner, but only because it’s quite different to everything else, especially last year’s winner. T'en va pas uses the same trick of repeating ‘in-line’, like ‘Un premier amour’. I think T’en va pas is actually better that that, but the guitar, the visual effects and rhythm of Dansevise is just great. Unfortunately, it didn’t do that well commercially, which is to be expected for a Danish entry, even though it was covered in English. Worth mentioning that Denmark repeated their success with a duo, just like their previous high point in 1957. This time though, the kiss at the end was between Ronnie Carroll and Grethe Ingmann, much to the (jovial) protestation of Jørgen!
- To my mind, Spain, Monaco and France were all great entries. I even enjoyed Sweden’s imagery, which I only found through doing the subtitles!
- The voting appeared very one sided, with almost half the board full of countries not scoring anything for a long time, and eventually we ended up with another 4 non-scorers. Interestingly, the top three all scored points from 11 juries. You could say it’s a terrible night for the Scandi/Nordic block with NOR, FIN, SWE all finishing with 0, but their first win from DEN rather ruins that fact! The Netherlands must be head-scratching having scored only 8 points since Een Beetje took the prize in 1959.
- We appear to have found a board that fits in one camera shot! I believe this is the last board to feature song numbers, but song names will reappear in 1966.
- Some of the official write ups mention that the audience weren’t seen or heard. They are seen at the beginning, and you can hear the audience, and Katie Boyle, gasp at a few key moments in the voting. The kerfuffle with Norway is the subject of much suspicion, and the wiki article has a poorly attributed write up of what was going on in Oslo. What’s clear though, is that Roald Øyen followed the rules of stating the song number and the country…the mistake he made was giving the points in descending order, and not performance order. Spain did the same thing, in fact, but didn’t get chastised by Boyle. Clearly something was up for Roald to call halt and I would have thought the jury was perhaps watching the programme air. That’s all we’ll say for now.
- I think this was the first mention of a scrutineer - behind the telephone? Quite ironic that we’d had reasonably smooth voting up until this point.
- The UK went for Ronnie Carroll again, which has created an odd pub-quiz fact. James Newman was the UK’s entry for two consecutive years too in 2020/1, but Carroll got to the stage twice. I expect after doing so well between 59 and 61 that winning seemed inevitable for such a smooth crooner. Say Wonderful Things was a much more mature entry than Ring-A-Ding girl, even though I’m not sure how those backing singers managed perfect vocals without some help 😊. Ronnie appears to have taken the two fourth places on the chin and those results are a remarkable achievement in the context of today. Say Wonderful Things was his second most successful song in the charts, topping at 6th. After that, the material dried up. He maintained a career in entertainment, whether on stage or not, and even owned a cinema. Whether his failure in Luxembourg and London, and then in the charts, played on his mind or not we don’t know, but he decided to stand for Parliament a couple of times - intending to gain a place in the Guinness World Records by achieving no votes at all. Unfortunately, 23 voters didn’t agree with the plan.
- Great to see representatives coming in from future Eurovision countries, two Israelis and a Greek! Switzerland coming close second, and the other two (Austria and Luxembourg) coming 7th and 8th.
- history of television studios in London (tvstudiohistory.co.uk) is a great little website for the unofficial history of Television Centre and other studios. This is maintained by Martin Kempton.
- Washington Post - Dave Jeffery (kecskebak.co.uk) Here’s the website about Washington Post, the BBC’s typeface from Dave Jeffery who recreated it. I’ll be writing a note to him shortly! I know the typeface may fly over people’s head, but it did make it on air in the 1960s.
- I’ve decided to keep the speech at the end, it’s got a great message of the time, specifically mentioning the terror that new (nuclear) technology might bring, and a hope of more Eurovision programmes. I enjoyed the moment where Stuart Hood announced the winner of the next prize, only for them not to appear. Surely they would have known this? It got very ‘Sound of Music’…although I doubt the Danes were escaping to Switzerland!
- A very brief round of up where we are history wise…1963 would be dominated by American news really, especially with the assassination of JFK in November, and the increasingly gloomy situation in Vietnam. In Europe, De Gaulle, having escaped from his own assassination attempt, caused some considerable issues when he decided to veto the UK’s entry into European Common Market. That occurred at the end of January and would set a frosty tone for UK involvement in the project. De Gaulle was fixated that European governments would let American power in through the back door. The Élysée Treaty, signed in January intertwined French and German governments to meet twice a year to make sure they’re in step with one another.
- In the same week as the Contest, the Beatles released their debut album Please Please Me, a second one would be released on the 22 November - the same day as JFK’s assassination. The following week, the Beeching Report into the ageing UK rail network was released - the UK government is working today to try and undo some of the swinging cuts made by it. 1963 also sees a new Pope (Paul VI) and a new German Chancellor, Ludwig Erhard. In a similar Eden/Churchill relationship, Erhard served a remarkably short term (for German Chancellors) having to live in the shadows of Adenauer. ‘I Have A Dream’ is spoken by MLK in August, The Great Train Robbery takes place in the UK, a new Prime Minister takes office in October (Alec Douglas-Home) and Harold Wilson becomes Labour Party leader. If you like that sort of thing, Doctor Who was first aired by the BBC in November, but the first episode was filmed down the road at Lime Road Studios, not at TVC.
Look forward to watching once I finish work. I’m not English so the football holds no interest :)
Sorry to be “that guy” but song numbers will return one more time, in 1970.
And I think the Spanish jury didn’t get in trouble with Katie because while they announced in the wrong order, they used the correct song numbers.
Oh, and I’m sure the UK’s relationship with the Common Market will all work out beautifully…
Ah yes of course you’re right about the song numbers - often I don’t have time to flick through every board to check!
Yeah 64 & 65's scoreboards are...weird. That whole voting system from 1964-66 was just bizarre. You can include the lights they use to look like dice, then have the number pop-up alongside it when a country is selected for points. Similar to 2000 having the number show up. I don't know about the histogram bars though, I guess you can instead have a country fill up when their voting and would fill up by either a third or half for each vote cast and fill up when completed. Yeah, I think by 1966 RTL realized the stupidity of that scoreboard and just used numbers again like any other normal person.
@@j.t.5178 I like the 1964 and 1965 scoreboard. It showed some imagination which we don’t get today with the template scoreboards. I agree the voting system was bizarre though- 5, 3 and 1 points, but it could be 6 and 3 points, or 9 points to one country.
How times change:
1963 - The countries screw up their votes.
2019 - The EBU screws up somebody’s votes.
Eurovision 1963: Welcome to the future.
I think it's easy to say this is one of the greatest editions ever: the idea of the studios, the absence of microphones, the way they transformed every song in a little video clip... they were just 50 years ahead of their times (think of Euphoria, the concept of the performance is exactly the same BBC Imagined in 1963). It's absolutely amazing.
The winner, in my opinion, is still one of the greatest songs ever in the contest: after 60 years is still fresh and contemporary. Absolutely excellent.
And then we have some other fantastic songs (Sweden), wonderful singers (Luxembourg) and the perfect perfect perfect host: Katie Boyle was professional and spontaneous at the same time.
And to get to the reorderboard: the choice of the animated stage is brilliant so as the way to show the points and the last set of them from Oslo. You managed to make this amazing edition even more enjoyable. Thank you so much.
Thank you for taking the time to comment I'm glad you enjoyed it - I certainly enjoyed making this one.
The songs were performed live and not as videoclips. The microphones are there too. You just don´t see them, as they used the same technique, as when recording movies, where you also don´t see the microphones. The singer from Monaco had a very cautious voice, and therefore she is standing quite close the camera, so you don´t see her microphone which hangs just above her.
@@singing5100 I know they sang live and the microphones were there, but you couldn’t see them. This made the whole “video clip feeling” - which was the point of my post - that was definitely ahead of their times - as I meant with the euphoria reference :)
@@pointlessnostalgic78 Oki ;)
and euphoria was just one song
this entire year gave me music video vibes which wouldn't really be recreated for most of the participating songs until very recently
I would argue that Denmark's entry is the start of pop in Eurovision, with hints of psychedelia, guitar riffs, a more modern vocals not in the chanson style.
I'm afraid that this is a very late answer. I'm also afraid that especially Otto Francker (the author of this winning song) would very much disagree had he still been here. He was very much a fan of the traditional songs of the world and very open to influences from all around, but generally used them to make people in Denmark aware of the things moving in the outside world while he himself made mostly revy songs (a revy is something very Danish where any and all topics moving in society is brought up in sketches and funny songs, many times also having a sharp punchline in them if someone, like politicians, had screwed up royally) and Danish popular music which was at the time mostly the chanson type. He often spoke about this when teaching his choire new songs, so that is how I know this. But in his later years he taught us everything from opera to even heavy metal with a twitch though being almost 80 at the time which in my view shows just how open minded and broad he was. Also a very down to earth and humorous man despite his fame who could even see the potential that a person had where everybody else failed to see it. I had always been a bass singer because that is where I was comfortable singing, but he made me try out tenor and proved that it was where my real force was, eventually ending me as the lead tenor and sometimes solo artist at concerts. He regretfully passed away only a few years after I joined choir singing, and his son took over and sadly spoiled the fun and exploring new things and styles that Otto knew was the main drive for all of us.
While I did like “T’en va pas”, I agree that “Dansevise” was the right winner. Had Switzerland won, it would have been another French-language chanson winning the contest, and it would have seemed like France, Luxembourg, Netherlands and Switzerland were just swapping wins with each other. Perhaps this would have led to viewers and broadcasters losing interest?
I liked T'en va pas more than Dansevise but I agree that Dansevise should have won for the same reason you stated.
Switzerland and France are excel·lent songs
Despite his stressful turn, the Norwegian spokesperson would return to the contest as Norway’s spokesperson quite a few times after 1963 - the last time as recently as 2003.
I never knew that :D
One of my favorite festivals of all. Definitely turned a "festival being broadcast on TV" into an actual TV show
Ah, the year when the voting messed up, whereas this board helped us sort out the mistakes and show us the real voting.
Yes, this year was the best production by far and Denmark’s entry is one of my all time favourites !
that’s wrong
... That you don't get more recognition for the outstanding work you've been doing 👏👏👏
The 1960s obsession with extreme close-ups starts here I think. By 1965, we can practically see fillings!
No those extreme close-ups were used because the cameras & lighting RAI used was awful. You can barely see Udo Jurgen's face for about half of his performance.
Interesting how Danish is the third language to have won the ESC after French and Dutch - and compound this with how this is the ONLY Danish language winner (as Fly on the Wings of Love and Only Teardrops are both in English)
It was interesting how Denmark won, and every other Nordic country failed to get any points at all!
Interesting....or....suspicious lol
One of the musically most brilliant editions, both regarding its era and beyond. An unprecented amount of stunning, timeless entries which can easily be appreciated almost sixty years later. Apart from the obvious, deserved winner Denmark I feel I need to acknowledge Switzerland, Monaco, France and Luxembourg who all brought instant classics, but also some of the less recognized favourites of mine (including Finland, Sweden, the Netherlands, Belgium). There was even something to the entries I'd rank least favourably - Germany and Spain.
You've got to hand it to BBC for modernising the brand of Eurovision so fearlessly in just one year. Invisible microphones, innovative staging which enhanced each entry's particularity.. almost sounds like science fiction, considering the year (pointlessnostalgic78 and others have summarized it well already).
Flawless work as always, as if it needs saying. Your attention to detail and devotion to explaining the broader context and trivia so well is much appreciated, I enjoy reading it thoroughly with each new video. Thank you so much!
This really does feel like a refreshingly modern contest compared with the ones previous: the use of set, colour(!) and camera angles really give it a distinct look from song to song (the mirage effect at 18:04 and that overlay over the Danish entry put a smile on my face); plus the 'postcards' of the continent of Europe and the song title on top. That and the lovely Austrian version for a split second caught me off guard - before realising the language rule didn't come in till some years later, and I love the slinky vibes of the Swedish entry - shame it didn't get as much love with the juries!
One for Eurovision bingo: extreme close ups, and in abundance!
Norway getting off to a flying start and charging through their voting (initially) was hilarious! And, provides a good insight into revealing results by point order rather than performance order which I think gives an extra edge of suspense. Then of course it all goes absolutely pearshaped. I wonder, could Katie (by way of bosses there) have allowed that procedure instead? I mean (provided it was authenticated) the results were already announced and they could have continued… But all understood in the name of following procedure and likely for the ease of the scoreboard operators.
Top 5 instead of Top 10 - but the 1963-voting system is actually the most similar one to the system used since 1975.
“I wonder if Yugoslavia were considered.”
Apparently, yes. The Dutch newspaper”Leeuwarder courant” reported on 18 September 1962 that Belgrade was offered the contest but showed no interest. It then mentions that BBC was the only broadcaster that was keen to take the 1963 contest on.
Another great video! I love the scoreboard font which is just so in keeping with Television Centre and the early 1960s BBC. I like your choices for the song clips too (particularly Ronnie Carroll's kiss which is just a great image to end the song with!). Thank you as always for the care and love you must put into these.
It's such an exciting vote as well. I think this 5,4,3,2,1 system works well and it's a shame it wasn't used again - it would have made the 1964 voting more exciting (without changing the result).
1963 shows us a one-off glimpse of what Eurovision would have been like in studios rather than as large scale OBs. It's great to see the songs so well presented, but I think we lose the atmosphere of the big show. It'll be quite a few years before we see such creative camera direction at the contest again.
I'm not especially keen on Dansevise but I can see why it won on the night. The song stands out against it's opponents and Grethe has great on screen charm. Personally, I like the UK, France and Belgium.
Just wanted to thank you for these amazing videos - the scoreboards are out of this world.
Thank you Phillip!
I’ve been looking forward to this one, thank you! 👍
I have yet to watch this year fully but I actually loved the staging style and camera work for this year. Seeing the camerawork for Denmark really proved that they really deserved to win this year.
Yea I think that’s a good comment especially because it highlights Eurovision moving away from each song being presented in a uniform way, which was intended in the early years. Together with the voting problems, it was a controversial way to win - but a deserved victory in my opinion.
As soon as the song started playing I knew Denmark would win 💯
First of all, let me say thanks you for the magnificent work of yours. 2. Please guys, analyze this results from Nordic countries and compare them with their 1999. voting. Everything is perfectly clear.
It's actually a quite funny story behind the Norwegian jury vote. One of the Norwegian jurors told years later about how him and a few others were rushed to the NRK studios in taxis on the final day. They receieved 150 KR (which was a lot of money back then) each for "wasting their Saturday evening on being jurors at ESC". They said they had already decided to vote for Denmark as they had the most sympathy for them 😂😂😂
Oh God this is amazing on several levels. Your design and font are very apt for the time and I like your set shifting in size just as the votes are to be announced. You also handled the Norwegian and Monageusque voting mishaps beautifully and the split screen was an excellent idea - of course, your scoreboard is the better one.
There were some very strong songs this year but I'm not sure if Denmark was my favourite, although it was a worthy winner. My top 5 are:
1 point France
2 points Italy
3 points Denmark
4 points Belgium
5 points Monaco
5 points denmark*
Ahh, thanks Brendan!
Another great video! I also don't understand why the official revert back the scores after Norway's mistake. It would have been a pretty easy fix. Anyway, I love the scoreboard and the font you used. It gives a very Jet Set style, especially with the map of Europe in the background. I agree with you about how lopsided the voting was. Rating only your top 5 songs out of 16 is still pretty unfair, although not as bad as the year before! Monaco's voting was hilarious, I mean how do you miss that? It was pretty obvious!
Here's my hypothesis. Similar to 1960, all the jury spokesmen were in BBC Television Centre, except for Spain as it's the only one that sounded like the BBC called RTVE directly through the phone. Before the broadcast, NRK was having trouble getting 20 people to be juries, so they rushed to find anyone to become one and got some people on the day of the contest and listened to all the songs twice right before the end of the final and the counter got the results from those jury members right at the end of the performances.
Then, right before the end of the interval act, the BBC called NRK to submit their results, but they were not finished tallying up the votes. I mean, it will take a while to add up the top 5 songs out of 16 countries from 20 people. The interval act was only five and a half minutes long and they were announcing the votes in the order of the songs performed instead in reverse-order like the year before. Norway was 5th country to vote, whereas the year before they would have been the 12th country. You have to take into account pocket calculators were not readily available until the 1970s, and the calculators available at that time were huge, expensive machines. So it would make sense that Norway was tallying the votes by hand and would have made a mistake in the process.
Anyway, when BBC called NRK to submit their votes, the jury counter panicked and gave the Norwegian spokesman (and Eurovision official) a preliminary result over the phone in descending order. The spokesperson gave the votes to Katie in similar fashion, but both Katie & the spokesman realized the mistake. When Katie told him that the way was voted was incorrect and to announce them again in the correct order, he took that chance to ask Katie to come back to them in order to get some extra time for the counter to finish adding up all their votes, since there were still 11 countries to vote. This gave NRK an extra 8 minutes to tally up the scores.
However, the Eurovision official didn't tell the scoreboard operators to reset the scores back to before Norway voted and were left in place, because he didn't want to interrupt the voting process. Something similar happened in 1961 when 4 points magically disappeared from the UK almost at the end of the voting and everyone just stared in confusion. Also, with the BBC wanting to keep it as close to 1.5 hours as much as possible, the BBC production was rushing everyone to GET A MOVE ON, as they were pissed off when it overran 15 minutes over the allotted time slot in the 1959 contest. That's why while the performances themselves felt fine, but everything around it seemed a bit rushed. (The contest overran by 3 minutes.)
There were a couple ways to mitigate this. The NRK spokesperson telling Katie that they hit a voting snafu and ask her to come back to them later without announcing the preliminary results, or the BBC could have added a 2nd interval act because that is nowhere near enough time to to that much math to make a country's top 5 by hand.
Because of this complete clusterf***k of a voting process, the EBU made the Eurovision scrutineer be on stage during the voting beginning in 1964 to make sure the votes were counted correctly and to interrupt the host to correct any mistakes on the scoreboard. Also, they would make the jury vote during the dress rehearsal in later years. If the scrutineer have been on stage during the voting, have pointed out Monaco's mistake and would have interrupted Katie to allow the scoreboard operators to reset the preliminary Norwegian votes. There would have been much less confusion and suspicion after the contest.
As for the results themselves, Denmark was a worthy winner, but I wouldn't have minded Switzerland to win again. All of the songs were very good, but it was obvious that they were still transitioning out of the music styles of the 50s. Hence why most of the songs that at least experimented or tried different genres were successful. The only one that flop was Sweden, even though it was one of the most beautiful entries that year. Honestly, if they did the top 10 instead, I'm pretty sure there would have not been 4 nul-points this year. They all deserved at least one point this year!
Thank you for reading my TED Talk.
I enjoyed this TedTalk! And also, thanks for bringing up that they run over time-wise, I think it's quite an important factor in these early shows.
A fantastic scoreboard yet again! I love the way you replicated the in-studio board by having the 'tens' column of each score clicking over before the 'units'. By the way, that was some fancy electronic scoreboard they had on the night, wasn't it?! The UK reverted to split-flap/Solari boards after this, I think.
The only other thing I wanted to add was that it always makes me laugh when a singer utters 'La la la la la' and you provide the exact same words in the translation alongside!! Simple things make me happy... :)
The BBC used Nixie Tubes to show the scores on the night. Retro chic for sure (even though they weren’t retro back then.) Shame they moved to split-flap for 1968, and used them again in 1972 and 1974. TVE also used split-flap in 1969.
1966 and 1967 used the same mechanism as we’d seen in 1959, 1961 and 1962.
1970, I can’t tell- think it’s like a number clipper, it’s not split-flap but still looks very mechanical.
@@mrjdsworld80 The Nixie tubes seemed very bright and clear... and the number 'font' they used seemed different somehow. A great scoreboard for 1963, though!
Thanks for watching Chris! And thanks for noticing the bit of coding I had to do to make it look more mechanical, which although not split-flaps, are still a bit away from computer chip controlled!
Nana Mouskouri deserved better than 8th place with 13 points.
So did Françoise Hardy!
A very strong set of songs and I like the TVC setup for the production. BTW: the way you integrated the map into the lower thirds is absolutely marvellous! My points for London (and an honourable mention to Germany):
1p 🇫🇷 France
2p 🇮🇹 Italy
3p 🇲🇨 Monaco
4p 🇨🇭 Switzerland
5p 🇩🇰 Denmark
I think this was the first 'proper' controversy when it comes to the voting. It was certainly odd and I do agree they were watching the votes being counted once the error was picked up by Kate.
But it just looks like an honest error to begin with. But hey, no surprise if they thought "well, lets take advantage of it and help out a neighbour", especially since the rest of them got bugger all lol.
Sorry I haven't commented in a while. Been watching all of your re order's with great excitement every time. You always do a fantastic job with these no matter what the typeface and graphics you use.
It's just great to see all these votes in proper modern style voting.
Keep up the good work.
P.S. don't know if you've heard but... IT'S COMING HOME!!! lol
btw, I would like to make a minor request. I happen to put on a rather good ol fashioned posh accent, and I've always dreamed to commentate on one of these shows (I sometimes put on a modern contest and pretend to commentate to it like it was live lol).
I'm wondering if I could commentate on one of these older shows if there happens to be any issues in getting hold of English commentary?
Ah Jamie what a great pitch! I know it's annoying but I'll probably keep any original commentary, although I may well need a voice for another project so I'll keep you in mind!
@@thereorderboard Soz for late reply. Would absolutely love to get involved in one of your projects. DM me on FB. Jamie Snelling the name.
P.S. It went to Rome lol
P.P.S Congrats on getting your scoreboard shown on the Eurovision Replay of 1980! Whoop Whoop
Here's a fun fact: if the 1963 contest had used either the 1962 or the 1964 voting system, we would've seen a tie 6 years earlier as Denmark and Switzerland would've both tied with either 20 points under the 1962 system or 31 points under the 1964 system. Assuming that the top 3 stays the same for each jury, of course.
If they had used the 5 - 3 - 1 voting Switzerland and Denmark would have tied with 31 points each and Italy would have been third with 24 points. Six countries received 0 points.
=1. Denmark - 31 points
=1. Switzerland - 31 points
3. Italy - 24 points
4. United Kingdom - 15 points
=5. France - 14 points
=5. Monaco - 14 points
7. Austria - 7 points
8. Luxembourg - 4 points
9. Belgium - 3 points
10. Germany - 1 point
=11. The Netherlands - 0 points
=11. Norway - 0 points
=11. Finland - 0 points
=11. Yugoslavia - 0 points
=11. Spain - 0 points
=11. Sweden - 0 points
The BBC have always been movers and improvers when it came to Eurovision Song Contest productions. Pity it didn't do anything new and special in Liverpool.
This contest was my first Song Contest. I was 9 years old. I remember a few things about it. There was a great build up with mentions of it in the TV Schedule announcements. I was determined to watch it and now, now that she has passed away at 99 years of age, I duped my mother into claiming I couldn't sleep and sat with my father and her to watch the programme.
My mother said Denmark would win and she was right. I remember particularly the tapping of the guitar. Da Daga Dang Tap Tap Tap!
Every time I hear Dansevise, I recall that night and my love affair with the ESC, dwindling though it has become with the Internet age. I preferred it when I only knew one song on the night, (the UK entrant) and all the other songs in strange languages were new and you had one chance to hear the song.
Now the audience know all the words to all the songs, know all the acts and all the weird dance moves and lighting effects and cheer and spoil the songs.
The only surprises is the voting and that has been reduced to announcing the 12 points in a pointless (excuse the pun) exercise to join up all the countries and show off. There is no time to see the 1-8 and 10 points. Though I do like the public voting presentation these days.
If there was a couple of changes I'd make, I'd stop the countries who fail to make the final from voting in the final. I think it would improve the quality of the songs presented in the semi's which in many cases are dire, and secondly I'd bring back the national language rule. since 1999 Sweden and Azerbaijan have not presented a song in their native languages. So Sad!
One thing more I have noticed not only on this night but in other contests is Fascist Spain at the time, voting for Communist Yugoslavia and vice versa. Anyone else notice that?
Your videos is awesome 🥵! What programs u use to do scoreboard?
The French song is famous even now in Serbia, 60 years later. The Serbian version of the song is "Bila je tako lepa", which means the same as the original title and it's an evergreen here.
Jacques Raymond is so charming
Yes lovely men his now 88 years
There’s so much odd about this contest I don’t know where to begin. I do understand the odd staging arrangement between two studios though. This was the second time the BBC had to step in as host and I’m sure they took it back in-house as a way to say to other broadcasters who maybe couldn’t afford a big outside broadcast that they could easily host it at their studios. Does the fact it was in-house explain why the archive footage of this contest is so much better than for the other contests of this time?
For me the weirdest aspects are the fact Katie doesn’t repeat any of the points awarded, the complete silence from the audience during the voting and the mysterious, unseen “Eurovision official” at the other end of a phone line.
The no repeating of the points suggests that the spokespersons were pre-recorded. That wouldn’t explain the botched Norwegian vote but it’s possible they didn’t have time to pre-record.
I think there's lots of factors that go into why some of the archives are better than others - yes it may well because the programme originated from a dedicated building. It may well be that it was kept especially (unlike so many other recordings) because it was important to the BBC and it's history.
26:13 - the pointing stick is back! Sadly we won’t see it again.
This is a solid scoreboard! Pretty minimalistic style-wise, but everything works out nicely here; the font is better here than with 1960's! (On another note, what are the podiums in the foreground supposed to represent?)
1963 was an interesting year in the contest. Production-wise, it was pretty solid, even with the performances looking like the contestants are shooting a music-video. Pretty prophetic for staging to come, huh (the best "stagings" were from Italy, Denmark, and France)? It's also quite curious how the Norwegian voting got messed up like that. (and this was fifteen years before Mr. Naef, haha)
My top five:
5. FRA
4. GER
3. SUI -- Song #100 in the contest's history, haha! That aside, Esther is a really good performer, who elevated "T'en vas pas" to another level. It's very desperate in terms of getting one's lover back, but hopeful in some places.
2. MCO -- While Francoise Hardy is a well-known name in French music, her Eurovision entry is so underrated by the fandom! "L'amour s'en va" is melancholic and somber, with a bit of daintiness to balance it out. I'm also impressed by Francoise writing her own song.
1. DEN -- But Dansevise was and will continue to be a deserved winner, as it has its own quirks and stands against the test of time. The opening guitar riff begins something iconic, and Grethe's voice joins in this playful waltz of sorts. I also really like the imagery the song has; there's something playful about it! Probably my favorite entry of the black-and-white era of Eurovision.
I think I'm on board with your song choices! The hexagons are a rough approximation of the studio layout for the songs!
It was really odd that the scoreboard didn’t reset after the botched Norwegian votes and they stayed on the board until Oslo was called back. The actual 1963 board used (I think) Nixie tubes for total scores, and as we saw after the second Norwegian vote, these could count down, as well as up. It just added to the confusion they didn’t update the board.
Odd that no one picked up on the Monaco error either, everyone seems to have a laugh at the spokesman but no one realised the error!
Also when Monaco were called back to give their votes again, they weren't forced to give the song number, like Norway were, in what was a critical vote!
@@davidspear9790 I guess the issue was Norway gave the wrong song numbers, whereas Monaco awarded one vote too many, song numbers weren’t the problem there.
-1965: How NOT to control your anger-
-1966: A vote-for-your-neighbors contest-
-1967: Runaway v2-
1968: A voting thriller
1969: Quadruple winner!
1970: NINE points?
1971: Points away!
1972: Points away! V2
1973: Points away! V3
1974: An absolute throwback
1975: We almost won, but we didn't.
1976: Runaway v3
1977: Not quite enough
1978: 5 12s in a row
1979: Three horses in Jerusalem
1966: A vote-for-your-neighbours contest
1977: not quite enough
1978: 5 12s in a row
1979: three horses in Jerusalem
Fun fact, this was the only contest held in a tv studio.
@@dawidjan1993 and 1957
I think I know what you mean - 1957 and 58 weren't in dedicated TV studios, but rather sound recording studios (for radio) that had cameras put in them. TVC was certainly built for the exclusive use of television, it was even built with colour broadcasts in mind.
Can someone please tell me how the audience present that evening watched the performances live? TV screen??
Monaco Spokeperson was funny😂😂😄😄
Such class, compared with the contest today.
How pretty is Katie Boyle?! Never realised
someone tell me where the microphones are like they’re gone!
Host know already Who is the winner 26:14!
i can hear the pain in the danish guys voice when he gives switzerland the exact 4 points they need to surpass denmark
What was Katie on about to the Norwegian jury - she said that he hadn’t stated the number and then the country before the points, but he had ! Ok, he had said England for U.K., but then they’d called us England before in other contests without a hitch ! Maybe Katie was on speed or something and she just couldn’t quite keep up ?! 😂
Sadly the inevitable death of the BBC speeded up when they abandoned this building….selling such a factory of creativity was a huge mistake.
Incredible to see Sweden with a nul-point song.
not the right song of them - this song was so classy and awesome
It reallyyyy looks like Norway cheated just to see Denmark win 💀
What the hell happened with the Monegasque spokeperson?!
Is France the first wind machine?!
Hi I saw the tutorial to make this but I understood nothing bcs I installed the new version of vizrt😭
Yes I'm so sorry! That's already out of date isn't it!
@@thereorderboard haha yes
My votes for this year
Monaco 5 points
Italy 4 points
Denmark 3 points
Switzerland 2 points
United Kingdom 1 point
Françoise Hardy is sooo classy! Monaco should have won this.
It was correct Katie Boyle
To me this Eurovision had a very correct score. Denmark really had the best song, then Switzerland and then Italy. I totally agree. And yes, the Netherlands and the other Scandinavian countries really had the worst songs. I do think the UK and Austria were very overrated and I do think Luxembourg and Belgium deserved better.
Dansevise is the first Scandinavian song to win, but also the first one to be won by a couple/duo. It is also the first Eurovision song to not have the title sung! (Un jour, un enfant being the second, l'oiseau et l'enfant being the third, insieme: 1992 the fourth, running scared the fifth, 1944 the sixth and most recent one)
But Insieme 1992 starts with the title sung in a capella.
@@trygve45 yes but 1992 is no where in the song haha
Great job with the scoreboard… but the typeface was a choice! sorry!
I like the typeface, because it’s exactly what you would have found at TVC in 1963 so it’s completely of it’s time.
@@mrjdsworld80 I agree, it was of it’s time and very BBC, but I can’t seem to warm to it stylistically.
@@mrjdsworld80 I’ve just been to TVC tonight to see a Russell Howard Hour recording and there are parts of the building (a side entrance into TC1) that still have this typeface!
Wow that norwegian vote was disgusting! How were they able to get away with that? Were there no scrutineers back then?
Norway was SHAAAADY, knowing FULLY WELL that Switzerland had actually won but they decided to change their votes last minute! I can't complain tho Dansevise is a MONUMENTAL better song than old-fashioned T'en va Pas! Even tho i like Esther better as a singer, Can't wait for 1964 tho! Seeing my beloved ''Non ho l'eta'' winning with the first major Landslide victory in eurovision history, achieving a score THREE TIMES THAT of the second place....
Good that they changed it
What a terrible song from Italy!! so many better songs in that contest. Denmark song is wonderful, but Esther Ofarim & Nana Mouskouri rule!
Danish song was the best