Most Unusual Over/Under Shotgun I've Seen

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    I really don't have much I can say about this one - beyond it being made in Paris by Lefaucheux, I don't know anything about it's history or development. I do know that I have never seen another shotgun with this type of action, though...

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  • @DrunknBraindead
    @DrunknBraindead Před 4 lety +4630

    Hearing Ian say he has never seen something before is like hearing the lockpicking lawyer say he hasn't been able to pick something open.

    • @jonme225
      @jonme225 Před 3 lety +154

      I just changed videos from the lock God to the gun god and this is the first thing i see

    • @cbass2976
      @cbass2976 Před 3 lety +121

      "Lockpickinglawyer fans watch this"

    • @moldyskittle
      @moldyskittle Před 3 lety +65

      I love that similar people such as ourselves love both of these guys.... and they’re referenced by the fans. Truly. They’re among the best CZcamsrs.

    • @karljermunson9910
      @karljermunson9910 Před 3 lety +5

      He just said that in today's video!

    • @kuplung22
      @kuplung22 Před 3 lety

      @@cbass2976 true

  • @Kunelciyan
    @Kunelciyan Před rokem +518

    The Museum of Art and Industry in St. Etienne has a copy of this weapon in their collection, and they say that the design belongs to a man named Henry Rieger. A cursory glance on the internet says that he worked for Lefaucheux in the mid-to-late 19th century. Conventional double barrels of his are out there, marked both Rieger and Lefaucheux. Hope that this comment is of some help in identifying this weapon.

    • @armedbrit493
      @armedbrit493 Před rokem +27

      You are a scholar and a gent for posting this.

    • @jongustavsson5874
      @jongustavsson5874 Před 7 měsíci +6

      @@Z3R0_2PR1N9 I would imagine he does not really have time to read every comment on every video, and that comment was made 7 years after the video was uploaded.

    • @jakichan1234
      @jakichan1234 Před 7 měsíci

      Donc c'est une arme française de saint Étienne ?

  • @nicholasplesko533
    @nicholasplesko533 Před 4 lety +2778

    It’s hard to believe this isn’t used in a modern shotgun. Looks like a good design to me. I’d buy a new one.

    • @ethanking4954
      @ethanking4954 Před 3 lety +284

      Same it's definitely a huge improvement over the break open design.

    • @benben9794
      @benben9794 Před 3 lety +29

      Reminds me of a tank kinda you know

    • @sappynos6440
      @sappynos6440 Před 3 lety +22

      bro just make one🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @bladehunter1097
      @bladehunter1097 Před 3 lety +74

      I'd buy one of these just cause it seems fun to play with that whole mechanism

    • @biziblanco
      @biziblanco Před 3 lety +57

      @RamblingBaba _ I think his point is that it would have practical use with grenades and such, a double barrel shotgun isn't the most efficient thing nowadays, sadly it's probably why a new double barrel design won't be introduced any time soon

  • @L3GN5RW9
    @L3GN5RW9 Před 4 lety +1838

    2015: "This is the Most Unusual Over/Under Shotgun I've Seen"
    2019: 10 gauge bullpup curved-barrel over/under

    • @Styrak
      @Styrak Před 4 lety +33

      2019: Hold my beer

    • @jonathanrentfro1887
      @jonathanrentfro1887 Před 4 lety +18

      lol I just saw that one

    • @reliantncc1864
      @reliantncc1864 Před 4 lety +10

      I think this one still wins. I get where you're coming from, though.

    • @sawyere2496
      @sawyere2496 Před 4 lety +7

      Triple barreled drilling with swiveling stock

    • @MrDgwphotos
      @MrDgwphotos Před 4 lety +2

      I was expecting this comment.

  • @joelsagnes2841
    @joelsagnes2841 Před 7 lety +5602

    Being a Frenchman and living in France, when I showed a friend of mine this video, he told me he has seen one sample of this very shotgun in the firearms museum in St-Étienne.

    • @mysty0
      @mysty0 Před 7 lety +271

      Your comment needs to be voted to the top for providing information, hopefully my comment helps get it up there

    • @MrImachickenlol
      @MrImachickenlol Před 7 lety +39

      thanks for the info

    • @patrickriday
      @patrickriday Před 7 lety +68

      It's on Google street view, looks like a nice place. What does the graffiti on the other side of the store say? I tried translating my best guess, but I think one word is an abbreviation/slang.
      37 Rue Vivienne, 75002 Paris

    • @joelsagnes2841
      @joelsagnes2841 Před 7 lety +38

      I've seen it. Generally, these kinds of taggings don't really bear any meaning, besides for those who made them. Maybe. Such is the case here.

    • @patrickriday
      @patrickriday Před 7 lety +6

      Thank you

  • @kevinsullivan3448
    @kevinsullivan3448 Před 8 lety +1710

    I see one distinct adventage to this system over a converntional break shotguns; you can reload either barrel individually without losing the ability to fire the other barrel. So if you were hunting fowl and you firedd one barrel and then the rest of the fowl were out of range you could reload the spent barrel without taking the unspent barrel out of battery.

    • @jceepf
      @jceepf Před 7 lety +61

      Yes great comment

    • @Svorty
      @Svorty Před 7 lety +286

      I also do believe that such a mechanism would be very convenient for reloading in prone position. Definitely far more than standard break shotguns.

    • @garykeith1481
      @garykeith1481 Před 7 lety +8

      Svorty yes

    • @bobhunt4402
      @bobhunt4402 Před 5 lety +20

      I think that's a nonexistent advantage. Anyone with any experience can eject or extract just one spent hull from any top lever double shotgun (o/u or SxS with extractors or ejectors), reload, and be ready to fire just as rapidly. I'm also very sure that action would be much more expensive to manufacture than an Anson & Deely boxlock or even a modern sidelock requiring not only a lot of hand fitting but many more fiddly bits and some very precise machining to adequately seal the breech.
      It's an unusual and interesting shotgun nevertheless.

    • @cyruspalmer98
      @cyruspalmer98 Před 5 lety +12

      @@Svorty Shooting shotguns prone?...

  • @extraintelligence
    @extraintelligence Před 3 lety +242

    Honestly, that looks like a lot more convenient to reload than a typical break action. It's a shame that whoever designed this didn't have more success.

    • @kashikaze9129
      @kashikaze9129 Před 9 měsíci +18

      probably an expensive method and the others work just as well

    • @Slavic_Goblin
      @Slavic_Goblin Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@kashikaze9129 I don't imagine this would have been that much more expensive. It doesn't have all that many more moving parts.

    • @kashikaze9129
      @kashikaze9129 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@Slavic_Goblin then go make them

    • @warweasel2832
      @warweasel2832 Před 6 měsíci +6

      @@kashikaze9129 Your frame of reference here is asinine, incorrect, and in bad faith. The baseline we are referencing is not whether a person with no machinist skills could make one in their basement. It's in relation to modern sporting firearms.

    • @kashikaze9129
      @kashikaze9129 Před 6 měsíci

      @@warweasel2832 i stopped reading your comment after "in bad faith"

  • @jonny-nava-367
    @jonny-nava-367 Před 4 lety +547

    1:57 "I fired both unintentionally"
    Heavy Metal starts

    • @zackhall5566
      @zackhall5566 Před 4 lety +43

      rip and tear.

    • @codysykes5568
      @codysykes5568 Před 4 lety +17

      *BFG Division Intensifies*

    • @edwards4144
      @edwards4144 Před 4 lety +7

      zack hall until it’s done

    • @anggikharisma6388
      @anggikharisma6388 Před 3 lety +4

      Demons : *why do I here boss music?*

    • @MoldyStir-Fry
      @MoldyStir-Fry Před 3 lety +2

      Mick Gordon slides in ripping a sick riff on a guitar while simultaneously pulling a shotgun out of his underwear 🤣

  • @foobar201
    @foobar201 Před 8 lety +1060

    As unconventional as this is, it looks functional and durable.

    • @doktorbimmer
      @doktorbimmer Před 8 lety +53

      +foobar201 Wow, a beautiful and very interesting design... I have never seen anything quite like it before..
      very cool.

    • @JackSparrow-yl3yu
      @JackSparrow-yl3yu Před 8 lety +1

      +foobar201 why unconventional?

    • @Charsept
      @Charsept Před 8 lety +13

      +Jack Sparrow I'm fairly certain he was referring to the shotgun, which absolutely is unconventional.

    • @JackSparrow-yl3yu
      @JackSparrow-yl3yu Před 8 lety +3

      Charsept
      well what else could he be referring to ?

    • @doktorbimmer
      @doktorbimmer Před 8 lety +10

      Jack Sparrow I think its pretty obvious that a "conventional" breech-loading metallic cartridge shotgun design from this era would be a break-action design..

  • @Doug_R1
    @Doug_R1 Před 8 lety +1910

    Thats actually incredibly cool looking. Its such a shame quirky guns like this arent produced today. I'd buy a shotgun with an action like that.

    • @wynwilliams6977
      @wynwilliams6977 Před 8 lety +61

      +Doug Peck You can if you follow the link, you may be bidding against me though :D

    • @DreamPen
      @DreamPen Před 8 lety +55

      +Paul Williams It'd be nice if a gun company out there would go to you to look at this gun and copy its design. If it happens, please let them. I'd love to see this action replicated.

    • @wynwilliams6977
      @wynwilliams6977 Před 8 lety +72

      DreamPen I couldn't get it but I have a friend who is a gunsmith and we are trying to replicate it ;)

    • @Macca-95
      @Macca-95 Před 8 lety +12

      +Drunk “Very” Turtle I'd love to hear if that ends up successful. Would be amazing to see.

    • @wynwilliams6977
      @wynwilliams6977 Před 8 lety +39

      HaydenMcM1 We actually have a (semi) working alpha model, when we get something decent I will post it up ;)

  • @Mercymorn99
    @Mercymorn99 Před 4 lety +308

    I want to apprentice at a gunsmith just so I can try to replicate this. I literally think of this shotgun at least once a week

    • @Steinersgarage
      @Steinersgarage Před 3 lety +24

      Im not a gunsmith. But I am a "inventor" or a machinist. And I'm thinking of doing a gun like this one too, but for modern standards. Meant to be used for hunting or sporting. The one thing is that in my country I need to be licensed to manufacture a gun. I have started to design it on paper. But it's still lots to design as I want it to be a safe and reliable gun if I ever decide to get the license and manufacture it.

    • @noadadgringor6140
      @noadadgringor6140 Před 3 lety +7

      @@Steinersgarage How's that going for you? Just wanna know

    • @Steinersgarage
      @Steinersgarage Před 3 lety +16

      @@noadadgringor6140 well i have sent an email to the ones that give out the licences and i have found out that i only need the license to produce a gun. i dont need it if i will only make one gun for personal usage. witch is a nice thing. and on the design side of things im trying to make a good and reliable way to cok the weapon. and as of now im thinking of doing it so when i put the breaches to the side it coks the weapon. so when the shell have enterd the barrel and the breach have returned to the normal position the weapon is ready to fire.
      Basically I only have to put in a shell and pull the trigger.

    • @ZayBurd
      @ZayBurd Před 3 lety +1

      @@Steinersgarage any update?

    • @Steinersgarage
      @Steinersgarage Před 3 lety +6

      @@ZayBurd nothing interesting have happened. The only thing is that virus have slowed down my gun license and as of now I want to assemble it to get a feeling for it. And then see if what I've drawn on paper works good in reality.

  • @RealAzK
    @RealAzK Před 3 lety +20

    "I fired both unintentionally"
    *Doomslayer sent you a friend request*

  • @micnor14
    @micnor14 Před 8 lety +1355

    I bet you could reload that bad boy faster than anything. I like the design.

    • @starcoloneldunadansonoft501
      @starcoloneldunadansonoft501 Před 8 lety +14

      +Michael Norman Ghost Bear!

    • @Networkengie
      @Networkengie Před 7 lety +11

      Michael Norman me too such an awesome design

    • @DOT107
      @DOT107 Před 7 lety +55

      especially in trenches, Reloading it would be niffy and actually keep you on the edge without loosing momentum.

    • @jessejlewismeng
      @jessejlewismeng Před 4 lety +9

      Uhhhh nah man. You gotta manually eject each shell so it def takes way more time than a regular overunder w/ automatic eject

    • @gabelost7357
      @gabelost7357 Před 4 lety +12

      Jesse Lewis Won’t the design let you just tilt the gun a bit, and let the slugs just fall out?

  • @Crlarl
    @Crlarl Před 7 lety +1484

    Someone needs to make reproductions of this.

  • @Ogsonofgroo
    @Ogsonofgroo Před 5 lety +14

    That is a very cool loading/ejection mechanism, yes I know-i-know, very late to the party, but that is such a beauty piece of engineering I had to add my thanks to Ian and his FW channel for continuing to bring interesting/rare/forgotten weapons to light.
    This particular one seems like it would be fairly quick loading, and by the looks of the top loader it has been well loved.
    Thanks lots from the PNW Canada, Cheers!

  • @mindrockingimages
    @mindrockingimages Před 4 lety +5

    Finally started going back and watching older videos, I wish there were little bloopers at the end of more current videos. Love what you do and I appreciate the knowledge of firearms you share, thank you.

  • @GenaTrius
    @GenaTrius Před 8 lety +599

    Wow, this seems like a really convenient action as over-unders go.

    • @gregbilotta2472
      @gregbilotta2472 Před 8 lety +73

      +Gena Trius Its a really clever way of doing it as well....really cool shotgun

    • @the49thline
      @the49thline Před 8 lety +39

      +Gena Trius It would be a dream to use for clay pidgeons

    • @tribblier
      @tribblier Před 8 lety +16

      +the49thline Better for real pigeons

    • @tribblier
      @tribblier Před 8 lety +1

      ***** ross mk2 with straught pull, under barral shot gun and mp40 with extended mags and laser, silenced colt 1911 with laser and extended mags

    • @taccovert4
      @taccovert4 Před 8 lety +4

      +Gena Trius I like that you can reload only the barrel you need to, while maintaining the other one ready to fire at all times. Would have been something that a great war Lieutenant might have like to have for trench raiding and such. Obviously a pump or semi-auto would be more efficient, but for single-loading shotguns (IE one cartridge loaded per barrel, no magazine) this seems to be the most functional setup I've seen in a tactical light.

  • @christopherneelyakagoattmo6078

    Part of the theoretical allure was armament while reloading. You could top off the empty chamber without inconveniencing the loaded hole. With a regular double you can get caught out, standing there with an open action and shells in your hand. The idea was that one could be empty, or have just fired one round, and as soon as a round seated in the chamber, the trigger could be pulled. So you did not just look at a sporting shotgun. That was a Tactical innovation for guard/coach guns.

    • @reaver414
      @reaver414 Před 7 lety +22

      thank you for this comment that makes a lot of sense

    • @MaceGaming53
      @MaceGaming53 Před 7 lety +2

      Yah i thought the same thing

    • @andypanda4927
      @andypanda4927 Před 7 lety +3

      Christopher Neely Provenance? Hope it's book can read at library for more details. Martini - henry influence other commenter mention?

    • @Bacteriophagebs
      @Bacteriophagebs Před 5 lety +11

      I doubt that. It's way too fancy/expensive and probably too long for a coach gun, and it's not a dangerous game weapon. It was either an experiment or, more likely, a gun made to address someone's handicap.

    • @HMan2828
      @HMan2828 Před 3 lety +2

      Also allows you to reload without breaking your aim. Pretty sure you can easily reload a chamber by touch alone.

  • @anglicky69
    @anglicky69 Před 4 lety +28

    This is, until he came upon the "bullpup over / under with a secret" shotgun

  • @GET-Designsuk
    @GET-Designsuk Před 7 lety +7

    Hi Ian, I am really impressed with this design, it is unbelievable that it did not catch on. It has given me an idea for a modification to my over and under air shotgun. I would not use the same action as I never copy and in this case it would not work anyway but a push through breach would. I love your work in bringing unusual designs to our notice: a great many thanks for that. Keep up the good work.

  • @Slartybartpharst
    @Slartybartpharst Před 8 lety +442

    It's kinda like a pair of Martini Henri's turned on their side. Very cool.

    • @kevingooley9628
      @kevingooley9628 Před 6 lety +4

      I believe Greener imported single barrel shotguns to the American frontier made from modified surplus Martini breeches. Assume this may have been a similar concept, repurpose existing parts?

    • @77gravity
      @77gravity Před 5 lety +4

      Lever action would make this gun ROCK.

    • @deniscurran6674
      @deniscurran6674 Před 4 lety +4

      It has two little levers.

  • @PiperAmadeus
    @PiperAmadeus Před 7 lety +375

    I inherited a shotgun just like this from my grandfather.
    He told me that it was a Lefaucheux 1848 before his passing, whenever it was intended to hunt or not that was the purpose it served. Got some documents on it, sadly i no speak french oui oui. (sad joke) not to mention they are old and is almost falling apart. A friend translated a section of the text and it pretty much said that it was ment to replace the previous weapon (wich ever that was) The rest of the text is almost gone to age.

    • @kekula69
      @kekula69 Před 6 lety +8

      merde

    • @edwardteach3000
      @edwardteach3000 Před 6 lety +7

      Piper Amadeus i know im late to the party but thiers some interesting info about the company that (possibly) made this gun the comments above

    • @colejosephalexanderkashay683
      @colejosephalexanderkashay683 Před 3 lety +2

      it would be cool to have such a gun; do you shoot it much?

    • @PiperAmadeus
      @PiperAmadeus Před 3 lety +6

      @@colejosephalexanderkashay683 I have for memories sake and it does pack a punch.

    • @h.walker1332
      @h.walker1332 Před 3 lety +7

      @@PiperAmadeus You should post pictures of it and the documents. Gun nerds can get a lot on info out of a small amount of stuff.

  • @erg0centric
    @erg0centric Před 5 lety +28

    "That is not how it works"
    That is exactly how I would make it work.

  • @raphaelrae8186
    @raphaelrae8186 Před 3 lety +6

    No disassembly required. I like it. Whoever designed that brilliantly simple masterpiece must have been a genius.

  • @TheCarlos840
    @TheCarlos840 Před 8 lety +501

    If you google the address (Lefaucheux 37 Rue Vivienne Paris) there are a few pages coming up with some information... Apparently the company was started around 1850, the last member of the Lefaucheux family died in 1869 without kids and the company was taken over by Laffiteu (the husband of the deceased) and then by Rieger in 1876. It was then sold in 1905 to its final owner. The no 37 address was used until 1914, point at which the shop moved. It seems the guns made during the Rieger era had a large LR marking, so this gun could have been built between 1850 and 1876...
    If you go to www.littlegun.info then French section, then LeFaucheux there are a lot of pictures and some info about LeFaucheux guns and revolvers, some weird designs too...

    • @JFHomehr
      @JFHomehr Před 8 lety +36

      +TheCarlos840 Since it's marked "Mon Lefaucheux" (mister Lefaucheux) it most likely stand for Casimir Lefaucheux. He got to the 37 rue viviene in 1850 and died there in 1852. If it was the later company, it would have been marked "Lefaucheux" or "E. Lefaucheux" depending if it was sold by the widow or the son.

    • @TheCarlos840
      @TheCarlos840 Před 8 lety +15

      +Gil gamesh
      You might be right! I can't find any information about the "Mon Lefaucheux" marking and cannot find a single picture of a gun with the "Mon Lefaucheux" marking apart from this one. Its always "Lefaucheux" or "E. Lefaucheux"! Also it seems most guns with the full address marked on them are from the Eugène era, which lead me to believe this was one to... There really isn't very much info available.
      So if you are right and this gun is pre Eugene, it could be as old as 1850 to 1852. Either way it is definitely between 1850 and 1876.

    • @drmaudio
      @drmaudio Před 8 lety +6

      +Gil gamesh So given this, wouldn't that put the year at '52. The earliest reference I can find for a "modern" centerfire (as opposed to pin fire) shotshell is 1852 from Lancaster Cartridge in England and from Pottet in France.

    • @TheCarlos840
      @TheCarlos840 Před 8 lety +9

      +Gun Sense (drmaudio) If we can confirm without a doubt that the "Mon Lefaucheux" marking means it was made by Casimir Lefaucheux then yes.
      I haven't been able to confirm that. I think we can mostly say it "should" be from 50-76, with a high probability it is from 50-52.
      If you look at the pictures of the 30 or so guns shown in the link i posted previously, you can see that the markings vary a lot, making it hard to be 100% positive it is from one period or the other. Maybe someone with more knowledge can give us more info, i can't.

    • @drmaudio
      @drmaudio Před 8 lety +1

      TheCarlos840 Interesting. Thanks.

  • @WizardAngst
    @WizardAngst Před 7 lety +497

    Possibly a custom peice for someone with a damaged/lost/deformed hand? Looks like its designed to be loaded one handed.

    • @MURDERFACE555666
      @MURDERFACE555666 Před 5 lety +33

      WizardAngst i thought the same though now i’m not sure about firing a shotgun like that one handed

    • @alexanderhorst7528
      @alexanderhorst7528 Před 5 lety +27

      I thought about resting on the forearm, but I doubt it. Since this is already a highly customized gun, they would have adopted a front section more suitable to this.

    • @_Gnome.
      @_Gnome. Před 5 lety +4

      @@MURDERFACE555666 A real man could do it easily. I don't think you could, though

    • @Bloodreign137
      @Bloodreign137 Před 5 lety +63

      Gnome and are you saying you’re a “real man” for insulting another man about his masculinity while having a conversation that you weren’t a part of..? Because to me it seems like you’re very insecure about yourself to make a comment like that

    • @JackNapierTM
      @JackNapierTM Před 4 lety +7

      @@Bloodreign137 reading your comment made my pants tighter.

  • @ChumblesMumbles
    @ChumblesMumbles Před 3 lety +3

    Interesting - there's still a gun shop at 37 Rue Vivienne in Paris. The Armurerie de la Bourse (the metro stop around the corner is the Bourse - the old stock exchange stop)

  • @ratchetmidmo66
    @ratchetmidmo66 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I love this. Old unique firearms make me drool!!! Thanks for sharing, Ian!

  • @Dr.TJ_Eckleburg
    @Dr.TJ_Eckleburg Před 8 lety +109

    That's actually a really cool, logical design. I wonder why it never caught on.

    • @justsomeplantcells-
      @justsomeplantcells- Před 3 lety +5

      Yeah. The shotgun design is so cool!
      It’s like break action but much smaller

    • @johnfulkrod9596
      @johnfulkrod9596 Před 3 lety +4

      Lots of weapon designs don't catch on. I always wanted a double - action revolving rifle with a stock and swing - out cylinder, but the only one I've heard of was cap and ball.

    • @MachineMan-mj4gj
      @MachineMan-mj4gj Před 3 lety +1

      @@johnfulkrod9596 Taurus supposedly makes a carbine version of its Raging Judge, that might tickle your pickle.

    • @davitdavid7165
      @davitdavid7165 Před 3 lety +1

      Peaple being used to tradition? Also,making them pivot on the other side would have made it better for right handers. In military settings,i imagine peaple having problems with accidentally pushing the block and debree stoping them from rotating.

    • @hyfy-tr2jy
      @hyfy-tr2jy Před 3 lety +4

      @@johnfulkrod9596 not sure why you say that. There have been many attempts at it but basically the reason it never stuck was that you cannot hold a revolving rifle's forearm without some significant arm protection. The escaping gasses from the front of the cylinder that leak out behind the forcing cone of the barrel will leave you with serious burns and or tissue damage on the inside of your arm.

  • @basedury
    @basedury Před 8 lety +125

    Really neat, and seems like it could actually be practical.

  • @jeremyplanqua6040
    @jeremyplanqua6040 Před 7 lety

    Hi ! I'm french, and i discover this on your channel :D I can't believe it... It's a superb collection firearm. I'm lovin' it :)

  • @bobbythompson3544
    @bobbythompson3544 Před 6 lety

    Love this brilliant design, awesome design, thank you for this presentation!

  • @Deunstephe
    @Deunstephe Před 7 lety +129

    This is the most interesting shotgun I've ever seen.

  • @behemothokun
    @behemothokun Před 8 lety +49

    This looks really cool, and the craftsmanship looks high quality aswell.

  • @crobulari2328
    @crobulari2328 Před 7 lety +2

    In a gunshop I saw a 12G by the same maker. This had an underlever and the S/S barrels moved forward away from the breech for loading. The underlever was then pulled back and cocked the hammerless action as the barrels went back to battery.

  • @NotThatGuy523
    @NotThatGuy523 Před 7 lety +3

    Probably one of the coolest shotguns I've seen, I love the reload mechanics

  • @aileenhunts6404
    @aileenhunts6404 Před 7 lety +48

    There was an adresse carved into the gun "37 rue vivienne Paris"
    There's still a gun shop at that place, they might know something about it ^-^ or maybe not

    • @faerlabaermar
      @faerlabaermar Před 5 lety +3

      They likely don't know much, the company was passed out of its original family and then bought by a few others. Seems to be just your average gun store now.

  • @patricktakada9551
    @patricktakada9551 Před 8 lety +639

    Ian, have you ever thought about doing a series on more common weapons (AK, VZ.58, ARs) and going over the history and quirks of the weapons? I know they're not forgotten, but they probably have lots of facts about them forgotten and it'd be cool to get your input on them, plus there'd be a lot of extra views.

    • @silent_bob_
      @silent_bob_ Před 8 lety +111

      +Patrick Takada Me too. I enjoy the way Ian disassembles and points out quirks and characteristics of weapons and gives a honest opinion.
      Far better than most gun reviews.

    • @weeeds334
      @weeeds334 Před 8 lety +10

      +Patrick Takada good idea, i am sure ian would know things about such weapon you dont hear in every other vid etc

    • @SckharVawn
      @SckharVawn Před 8 lety +5

      +Patrick Takada
      I'd love to learn about newer guns as I do learn about the older ones with him, he has a very nice way to teach and show that even me, someone who isn't very good at listening to english can understand very well!

    • @AntiAnathema
      @AntiAnathema Před 8 lety +6

      +Patrick Takada Ought to be in a different channel then as the name doesn't quite reflect that

    • @2tommyrad
      @2tommyrad Před 8 lety +8

      +Patrick Takada Ian created a very interesting niche in a very common line of study. There are dozens of modern firearm YT channels that discuss interesting facts. Why would Ian taint his niche with something that is already being done 20 times a day on YT?

  • @barronbasstard
    @barronbasstard Před 7 lety

    That's one of the coolest things I've seen!
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @maverickrider4591
    @maverickrider4591 Před 4 lety

    Very well thought out.
    I could see you continuing to follow your target for second shot as you emptied the used cartridge and grabbed a ready cartridge from your bag, then began loading the empty barrel.
    It is also interesting to look at as well as a handsome weapon.

  • @AirGunScientist
    @AirGunScientist Před 7 lety +5

    That is a REALLY cool Shotgun. One advantage over a standard O/U is you could keep one type of shot in the upper another in the lower, and only open that breech to reload without opening the other.
    Thank you for sharing.

  • @PassionOld
    @PassionOld Před 7 lety +16

    Lefaucheux is really a wonderful french brand, still considered by many overhere as one of the best french manufacturer ever. I wasn't surprised when you revealed the name.
    It seems to be a really fair price ^^

  • @jamesranger6283
    @jamesranger6283 Před 4 lety

    I like stumbling across a video every now and again that I have not seen yet. Great vid, Very nice looking firearm. looks like allot of care went into the fit and finish. It for sure would draw allot of interest at the range shooting clays.

  • @magicman9218
    @magicman9218 Před 5 lety +2

    Why are these videos so oddly peaceful and relaxing

  • @GreyDevil
    @GreyDevil Před 8 lety +15

    Man i really like the loading/unloading mechanism for this shotgun, i would love to see a modern shotgun with a similar system.

  • @kombik7189
    @kombik7189 Před 7 lety +17

    The first thing I thought when I looked at that was "a sideways Martini!!" Seriously though, that's exactly what it looks like. The way the breach blocks hinge, the firing pin in the block. It's extremely cool. Like you, Ian, shotguns leave me cold. Double rifles, drillings, etc, sure but not shotguns. But I'd like that one!

  • @DMX-PAT
    @DMX-PAT Před 6 lety +1

    I love these one-ff works of art, they belong in museums man, ingenious!!

  • @nat040496
    @nat040496 Před 8 měsíci

    I love this. It very much feels like some enthusiast gunsmith just making something he thought was fun.

  • @athodyd
    @athodyd Před 8 lety +8

    4:19 is awesome. I now want a Forgotten Weapons Blooper Reel more than I've wanted anything else in my life.

  • @bobgarr6246
    @bobgarr6246 Před 8 lety +5

    As a smith I can see the inherent advantages in this style of o/u. First, you are eliminating the costley and laborious practice of fitting a hinged barrel gun. This includes the fitting of the hinge pin, the critically fitted relationship between the forend and the receiver, the timing of the auto ejectors, primary extraction and the extractors, fitting of the thumb lever and probably most importantly the fitting of the standing breach and the water table. Very ingenious, the company and name have been around and have made a name for themselves. As has been said, it does invoke the Martini name, but yet........ there is something here that in my mind is reminiscent of the original Browning Auto 5. Just watching those action proving rounds slip past the breech block and into the chamber reminded me of the fits I had while studying the design , function and repair of the Auto 5. Just like the Brownings shell latch and carrier and primary and secondary cartridg stops there was something eerily familiar. My guess would be it was manufactured arround the time the supperposed came out, so about the 1930's? Any guess Ian?

  • @H2oRiz
    @H2oRiz Před 4 lety

    Beautiful! The breach blocks are stunning. I'd like a gun like this.

  • @LordAnestis
    @LordAnestis Před 3 lety +4

    This is actually a really nice-looking shotgun!

  • @RobertoDonatti
    @RobertoDonatti Před 8 lety +5

    Amazing gun! There's still a gunshop at Rue Vivienne 37 in Paris, where the Lefaucheux shop used to be.

  • @krowerQ
    @krowerQ Před 8 lety +19

    that's a really beautiful design. :O

  • @Blackraven6
    @Blackraven6 Před 3 lety

    This is amazing! I like this concept so much!

  • @drewschlosser26
    @drewschlosser26 Před 6 lety

    That is so beautiful. Amazing streamlined design

  • @mitchlol5710
    @mitchlol5710 Před 8 lety +82

    Ummmm, this is actually really cool and I'd like it a lot if I had the money haha

  • @SteelJM1
    @SteelJM1 Před 7 lety +6

    I'd imagine the extractors would work as ejectors as long as while reloading, the shotgun is pointed up or at somewhat of an angle. Looks like with practice one could reload it pretty quickly.

  • @Hrafnhistorical
    @Hrafnhistorical Před 4 lety

    God that's such a beautiful piece of kit. Really speaks to me.

  • @bernardi5919
    @bernardi5919 Před 3 lety +4

    That's like an over-under shotgun version of a Martini rifle

  • @ShawarmaFarmer
    @ShawarmaFarmer Před 8 lety +16

    I never could forsee this day in which our resident CZcams sage is bereft of the information we came for. Nevertheless, an interesting and peculiar piece. One can only assume it's tale. Despite the age of the firearm, whoever came across must have taken good care of it, on the exterior anyways.

    • @CaffeinePanda
      @CaffeinePanda Před 8 lety +2

      +Oliver Karuna There's been a couple of videos where he finds a really interesting gun to show, but has no solid information about its origins.

  • @imajeenyus42
    @imajeenyus42 Před 8 lety +9

    Ian, really interesting design. I've always had a soft spot for Martini-type actions ;-) Any ideas on the firing mechanism - striker/hammer? Is it cocked by the lever, or by pushing the breechblock out the way?

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  Před 8 lety +5

      +Lindsay Wilson I believe the breechbock actually cocks it.

    • @Pprokop87
      @Pprokop87 Před 8 lety

      +Forgotten Weapons I think that the breachblock pushed to the side pushe a lever combined with the trigger and cocking the hammer with some ind of a spring, then pulling the trigger releses the hammer that pushes the firing pin in the breechblock (i sam a smal hole in the center of it at 1:30) and the shotgun fires.
      What do you think about that Ian?

  • @bobsteb61
    @bobsteb61 Před 4 lety

    Unique and very awesome. I'd very much like to have a similar gun in my collection.
    P.S. I love the blooper at the end lol very funny/entertaining and insightful to the reality of making these videos

  • @rudeawakening3833
    @rudeawakening3833 Před 2 lety

    Very well worded , and stellar presentation , sir !
    Thank you 🙏

  • @ninjawannabe87
    @ninjawannabe87 Před 4 lety +4

    the way the stock comes off is interesting, I imagine someone could make some interesting stock types if they had the time resources and savvy. if I had the 3 aforementioned things, then I would probably buy this shotgun. double barrels shotguns and other weapons with that much wood on them have a lot of artistic potential

  • @embarkingolive
    @embarkingolive Před 8 lety +13

    This is actually a pretty efficient action for reloading.

    • @embarkingolive
      @embarkingolive Před 8 lety +6

      Agreed, a little refinement and this design would have dominated break action double barrel designs.

    • @embarkingolive
      @embarkingolive Před 8 lety +1

      True, but this seems like prototype. with a bit of refinement I think this could have been a very useful extraction/ reload action in comparison to the popular break action shotguns of the time.

  • @blitzkrieg8776
    @blitzkrieg8776 Před 4 lety +1

    I wouldn't mind having on of these, seems durable and cool looking.

  • @cgvapors963
    @cgvapors963 Před 4 lety

    That's a really slick loading mech for that day and age. I imagine someone could get off shots very quickly with some practice using this unique action.

  • @rickyny78
    @rickyny78 Před 8 lety +8

    3:18 "This by the way, is not a button. Don't ask me how I know".

  • @romeotango5597
    @romeotango5597 Před 7 lety +6

    Man,... really sad that this was up over a year ago, I would have loved to own this.

  • @jimciancio9005
    @jimciancio9005 Před 2 lety

    That's some Wild outside the 📦 Design of how that works and seems to make a good bit of sense for speed loading a double barrel with basically one hand! I love it!

  • @EcclecticNerd
    @EcclecticNerd Před 8 lety +3

    Re-watching this has me intrigued. Has anyone done that type of action, but in a side by side? Seems like it'd be a rather efficient way to either have it where you drop the shells from the top of the action, or even have them loaded from the bottom, so when you pop the breech blocks up the empty cases just kind of fall away.

  • @asianpower66
    @asianpower66 Před 8 lety +8

    You should definitely do a video on Lefecheux revolver.

  • @PavusthePug
    @PavusthePug Před 6 lety

    First video I've watched, instantly subscribed.

  • @alterpanda8988
    @alterpanda8988 Před 6 lety

    i keep coming back to this video because it is so cool

  • @mikak.7272
    @mikak.7272 Před 7 lety +15

    The second I saw those breach blocks, I had to thing of a Martini-Henry

    • @kingflynxi9420
      @kingflynxi9420 Před 7 lety +3

      DerWillDochNurSpielen it is like a sideways martini Henry now you point it out

  • @ryotaryuu
    @ryotaryuu Před 8 lety +4

    this is the coolest thing ever. someone should make new copies.

  • @draks7340
    @draks7340 Před 7 lety

    This is a beautifull pieace of craftmanship!

  • @luke1035
    @luke1035 Před 6 lety

    What a beautiful shotgun! Thanks again for the great content.

  • @MrGrenadeMcBoom
    @MrGrenadeMcBoom Před 8 lety +15

    That seems pretty fun. Not sure if it's an improvement over the good old break action, but it is cool.

    • @MaartenvanRossemLezingen
      @MaartenvanRossemLezingen Před 8 lety

      It may have been designed for old people with arthralgia, its purpose doesn't necessarily have to be being better.

    • @2adamast
      @2adamast Před 8 lety +2

      +MrGrenade McBoom I think that in 1850 _the good old break action_ was newfangled, where falling blocks were the thing.

    • @ethanschmitz5095
      @ethanschmitz5095 Před 7 lety

      MrGrenade McBoom opp

  • @BrokenArrow951
    @BrokenArrow951 Před 8 lety +29

    The ending was brilliant

    • @AkkaBowdenKerby
      @AkkaBowdenKerby Před 6 lety +1

      Callum Thompson yes.. comic genius.. hahahaha

    • @avro205
      @avro205 Před 6 lety +2

      So I can show you how this works...*misses* ... that is not how it works. Didn’t even miss a beat

  • @legion8585
    @legion8585 Před 3 lety +1

    I think I'm in love with this beauty.

  • @Blackevo9
    @Blackevo9 Před 4 lety

    Wow! Amazing and beautiful. Love unique guns like this.

  • @topsu8283
    @topsu8283 Před 7 lety +9

    i would wanna buy that

  • @iamscoutstfu
    @iamscoutstfu Před 8 lety +6

    That things gorgeous. classy gentlemen's gun.

  • @CaptainRuderalis
    @CaptainRuderalis Před 4 lety

    Beautiful piece of Lefaucheux

  • @Mauser_.
    @Mauser_. Před 6 lety

    Incredible find! Thanks

  • @thegeneralissimo470
    @thegeneralissimo470 Před 8 lety +12

    That has to be one of the sexiest shotguns i've ever seen. I would love to do a replica of it!

  • @cameronzy279
    @cameronzy279 Před 7 lety +7

    quite honestly, I think this should be brought back

  • @MKmod-hp3lw
    @MKmod-hp3lw Před 4 lety

    Really nicely made. ..I like it

  • @pjnoonan1423
    @pjnoonan1423 Před 4 lety

    I would totally buy one of these. It combines my favorite features of both semiautomatic and double barrel shotguns.

  • @yo10057
    @yo10057 Před 7 lety +13

    imagine firing it without the stock

    • @bfnvalley
      @bfnvalley Před 7 lety +7

      yo10057 Broken fingers, broken hand...

    • @yo10057
      @yo10057 Před 7 lety +14

      before shooting: "i have a hand"
      after shooting: "what hand lmao"

    • @jesuisunepizza2138
      @jesuisunepizza2138 Před 7 lety

      SKOLAS BROOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • @yo10057
      @yo10057 Před 7 lety

      hi

    • @CloudTheZoologist
      @CloudTheZoologist Před 5 lety

      no no no I imagined that too but noo on the other hand it could be useful for building some kind of boobytrap

  • @user-sv6tx8uq9e
    @user-sv6tx8uq9e Před 3 lety +6

    Гениальный механизм! Лайк за обзор!

  • @shaneharrison4775
    @shaneharrison4775 Před 3 lety

    That a beautiful piece of kit and it is most interesting

  • @TobiasRieperGER
    @TobiasRieperGER Před 4 lety +2

    This is an interesting piece of mechanical art.

  • @christiancontreras5349
    @christiancontreras5349 Před 7 lety +6

    That is a cool shotgun, when you fire ,you just lean the gun down for the shells to fall out, and reloading should be quick.

  • @FenderMannen
    @FenderMannen Před 8 lety +7

    "Technically, Dunn was
    under Oveur, and I was under Dunn"

  •  Před 6 lety

    Very neat design , loving it.

  • @holdernewtshesrearin5471

    absolutely beautiful! and fascinating! id love to own one of those!

  • @Armageddon2077
    @Armageddon2077 Před 8 lety +7

    Hey, how much did this go for? I can't stop thinking about it - and although it's unlikely I'll ever have it or anything like it, I'd really like to know a ball park figure for something like this is.