The reason Sinner strings are strung at a high tension is because Head Hawk Touch is not a co polymer polyester string l, its a monofilament polyester string which behaves very differently. Its a lot softer, has more power and needs to hevstrung to provide control like a multifiliment string. De Minaur uses 4G as a cross string and its a brutally stiff string which only behaves well with it responsiveness when string in the high to mid 40s. The advantage of this string is it has the best tension maintenance of any polyester string on the market.
hawk family is still the control oriented category of Head's catalog. I agree that it's relatively softer in feel, not sure if i could label it as "powerful", especially the 1.30 gauge but your analysis makes sense when compared hawk touch to 4g - they are different indeed
nope. too costly. Also, I don't try new setup anymore to focus on improving my game and not being caught on gears, raquets and strings. hawk or hawk touch at 22kg is my compromise. It lose around 2kg quickly to settle at 20kg and finish around 17kg after some weeks. @@dandan.tennis
sounds like a good combo indeed :) in my blade from 2015 18x20 I enjoyed 1.20 solinco tour bite quite much. I've heard good things about 1.20 confidential in tight patterns but personally I prefer a stiffer strings in more responsive racquets than a power string in a control oriented master racquet xd ofc hawk touch is still a control oriented family of racquets but the gauge changes the response quite much.
Within the last 7 minuits of your video you showed your options for an ultimate racquet selection . Will or would you place your customized angell racquets to test against the rest of your srlections or any of the new dunlop cx's ? If not selecting an existing angell , then why not ? therefore are they truly worth the purchase vs a similar donnay pro 1 octacore 97 and or a self customized dunlop cx 95 tour ? How does the newer vcore 95 compare to the angells that you purchased , since it is on your list . Lastly I have heard that Angell's grips are sized larger than they should be and grommets are weak and tear easily , have you seen this ? Thank You , Derek
Hey Derek :) i will probably compare them to angell tc95 16x19 which was my previous main but i don't think I will put angell in the tournament. I want to try something else and unlock some things that were maybe a bit harder to unlock with tc95. New perspective, new experience and story. I did have like 3 different Dunlops CX in my hands across all the years. Great frames, AMAZING feel and control but they are platform racquets, they need mods and this was always a bit frustrating. Yonex Vcore 95 needs mods as well which is frustrating too but the endorsements are a bit more inspiring and the frame itself is a bit more modern which IMO sets the potential a bit higher. That being said I am quite interested in the new CX200 line, just not sure yet if enough to invite it to the tournament :) Yonex Vcore 95 is much more control oriented than Angell TC95 16x19. Lower launch, less power from vcore 95 even with some lead applied. Transitioning from hard-court season to clay season was tricky with tc95. i don't see donnay's around therefore they lack that inspiration aspect. I am working on my tennis identity a lot now and I must know exactly what to expect from the racquet and the potential playstyle and usage. they don't really promote it anywhere.If they don't care then why should we care right? If anything, Angell grips from the custom line could feel a bit smaller than let's say Wilson. I picked the same size and I was happy. Some went size up, didn't see anyone going down in size. No problem with grommets for me and I was testing a lot of strings sometimes even the sharpest on the market. Don't worry I would say. all the best, Dan
@@dandan.tennis Thank for for your reply , apparently the tc lines layup creates a lack of performance in some areas ? Is this also an issue of head size selection or just inherent issues ? It seems like control may be one of them . I understand the frustration with the Dunlop CX optimization . I have two cx 200 tour 95 18x20 's and the amount of thought you have to put into it inorder to optimize them is frustrating . My grip size is a 2 , so 95 - 97 sq inches is optimized for me . A 95 demands alot of the player and yet can be optimized to become a PT57A . If your grip size is larger and you like the control and feel , try the positively reviewed new CX 400 tour 100 . Dunlop is weaving its way into all areas of tennis and do endorse . Look at the contract with the european tennis association in 2022 . Slinger and kswiss seem to have a major enough investment by dunlop /srixon to push those products . It seems like you need to adapt to the the playing styles forced upon players by the tour and there ball and court manipulations . Precision is still prized on tour . If you can get your hands on prince racquets to demo it may be beneficial for you. Donnay is quite difficult to demo and see in person . Luckily I am in NY where the pro one 97 octacore is sold . The store in NYC is " RPNY " and yet they should be available through belgium or other distributors in europe . From your statement it seems that the vcore 95 is the racquet that makes it hard to transition from hard to clay courts . Is this also the case for the tc95 as well and or just any 95 ? Lastly the concern with pallet size came from Mark Sansait on you tube with the k7 red and time410S on you tube in regards to grommets , as well as still being a concern for him on all the various racquets that he has purchased from angell . When I spoke to Paul angell on line , I brought this up and he stated nothing pro nor con about these issues . Total customization beyond the scope of the tc is also only possible if you purchased 20 + racquets . The newer hot melt based react line seems to be a better performer than the tc even if you allowed paul angell's team to optimize them to their ideal performance and without negating anything to do so , and yet a 96 pro 18x20 does not seem like it would perform any better than my customized dunlop cx . The new cx lineup may be equal or better and I can demo those . It is a risk to go in blindly . If the k7 red 98 were not just out of optimization range then it would be a contender . The slazenger cosmetic was nice . Thank You ; Derek
@@derekpappas1556 lack of performance comes from the lack of mass. TC95 MUST be heavy in order to perform. I think most 95" frames must be heavy in order to perform. I don't know why brands offer 95" with 310g/310mm balance and SW under 320. it's a bit stupid. regarding control of tc95 it's the design. some will like it, some wont'. I personally loved it's response. just had to pick 1.30 gauge. The spin potential for it's headsize is absolutely top of the top. ye but you loose a bit of that control. I can see Vcore 95 being compared to the legendary prestige frames there are some similarities between those lines and i see many prestige users actually preferring vcore 95 over percept 97. i think any 95" can be a bit tricky from hard to clay. with tc95 it was maybe especially harder because if you time it wrong the ball will jump too high. vcore 95 is easier to play flat but its harder to push out the opponent. there is a small difference between the grips of custom line and k7 line. k7 line felt a bit bigger to me :) oh boy, what a conversation xddd you owe me a coffe xddd all the best, Dan
@@dandan.tennis Put all of this on a video , it is worth it specifically and in general . Understanding all these points are important and they tend to get glossed over . Make it a discussion and lesson , based on conditions and performance balancing . An advisory would work as well . I can understand if people choose the vcore 95 over the percept if the D and H are too heavy and unmanuverable for their needed performance . Even with added weight , the vcore 95 would be maneuverable and add control and comfort . Too much weight will cross the line and drasticly minimize comfort , manuverability and feel . So the wright racket layup is very important to performance . 1 of the 18x20 95's that I have in the CX came in with a low 311 vs 315 weight and low sw in the 270's without strings . The head lightness was 12 points . While it may seem bad , it was actually a god send because it created after strings and weight added to the head a 340 in weight and poss 9 points hl along with a sw in the 320 's . It was still highly maneuverable and worthly of being used as a more spin friendly racquet . I added a .33 thin overgrip for cosmetic and balancing reasons . The strings are head pps 17 in the mains at 42lbs and razorcode 18 in the cross at 36 lbs . Optimized tennis and increases the sweet spot while keeping their spin potentials equal at 6.0 and 6.1 . Power generation in the mains with some control rebalancing works . While the the vcore 95 is easier to use off the bat , I did not feel a oneness with it and the new one looks too much like a squash racquet vs a tennis racquet . I can not see trying it . The vcore's 16x20 pattern does offer that balance of spin to control, but it's all in the spacing . To have to go to a 1.30 on a 16x19 just negates the spin benefit , then what's the point of the high spin . For angell It is all about balance and needing to make the wright decisions all around , even if it is not popular . You would think that the pallets for the k7 would be the same as the tc choices in manufacturing , since it is your choice anyway . Perhaps the distributors are different . This needs to be corrected . The grommet weaknesses tend to apparently be at the knot holes . FINAL AND THANK YOU , Derek
The reason Sinner strings are strung at a high tension is because Head Hawk Touch is not a co polymer polyester string l, its a monofilament polyester string which behaves very differently. Its a lot softer, has more power and needs to hevstrung to provide control like a multifiliment string. De Minaur uses 4G as a cross string and its a brutally stiff string which only behaves well with it responsiveness when string in the high to mid 40s.
The advantage of this string is it has the best tension maintenance of any polyester string on the market.
hawk family is still the control oriented category of Head's catalog. I agree that it's relatively softer in feel, not sure if i could label it as "powerful", especially the 1.30 gauge but your analysis makes sense when compared hawk touch to 4g - they are different indeed
Head hawk touch and head are great for their responsiveness. Launchy, with touch hahaha
@@juleschenutInternational have you tried lynx tour with hawk touch hybrid ? :)
nope. too costly. Also, I don't try new setup anymore to focus on improving my game and not being caught on gears, raquets and strings. hawk or hawk touch at 22kg is my compromise. It lose around 2kg quickly to settle at 20kg and finish around 17kg after some weeks. @@dandan.tennis
Just looked on tennis warehouse and they have hawk touch listed as a co-poly monofilament
Personally I really like hawk touch. Also 1.20 seems to be the sweet-spot for my 18*20 TF40. Predictable enough without being to demanding.
sounds like a good combo indeed :) in my blade from 2015 18x20 I enjoyed 1.20 solinco tour bite quite much. I've heard good things about 1.20 confidential in tight patterns but personally I prefer a stiffer strings in more responsive racquets than a power string in a control oriented master racquet xd ofc hawk touch is still a control oriented family of racquets but the gauge changes the response quite much.
Same in the prestige mp 630 18x20 it is very soft so you can use it in smaller string images like a V18 from isospeed it is also a very good choice
@@Tennis040 true
Lynx tour is apparently best head strings
best seller probably ye :) @@Bambotb
Within the last 7 minuits of your video you showed your options for an ultimate racquet selection . Will or would you place your customized angell racquets to test against the rest of your srlections or any of the new dunlop cx's ?
If not selecting an existing angell , then why not ? therefore are they truly worth the purchase vs a similar donnay pro 1 octacore 97 and or a self customized dunlop cx 95 tour ?
How does the newer vcore 95 compare to the angells that you purchased , since it is on your list .
Lastly I have heard that Angell's grips are sized larger than they should be and grommets are weak and tear easily , have you seen this ?
Thank You ,
Derek
Hey Derek :)
i will probably compare them to angell tc95 16x19 which was my previous main but i don't think I will put angell in the tournament. I want to try something else and unlock some things that were maybe a bit harder to unlock with tc95. New perspective, new experience and story.
I did have like 3 different Dunlops CX in my hands across all the years. Great frames, AMAZING feel and control but they are platform racquets, they need mods and this was always a bit frustrating. Yonex Vcore 95 needs mods as well which is frustrating too but the endorsements are a bit more inspiring and the frame itself is a bit more modern which IMO sets the potential a bit higher. That being said I am quite interested in the new CX200 line, just not sure yet if enough to invite it to the tournament :)
Yonex Vcore 95 is much more control oriented than Angell TC95 16x19. Lower launch, less power from vcore 95 even with some lead applied. Transitioning from hard-court season to clay season was tricky with tc95.
i don't see donnay's around therefore they lack that inspiration aspect. I am working on my tennis identity a lot now and I must know exactly what to expect from the racquet and the potential playstyle and usage. they don't really promote it anywhere.If they don't care then why should we care right?
If anything, Angell grips from the custom line could feel a bit smaller than let's say Wilson. I picked the same size and I was happy. Some went size up, didn't see anyone going down in size. No problem with grommets for me and I was testing a lot of strings sometimes even the sharpest on the market. Don't worry I would say.
all the best,
Dan
@@dandan.tennis Thank for for your reply , apparently the tc lines layup creates a lack of performance in some areas ? Is this also an issue of head size selection or just inherent issues ? It seems like control may be one of them .
I understand the frustration with the Dunlop CX optimization . I have two cx 200 tour 95 18x20 's and the amount of thought you have to put into it inorder to optimize them is frustrating . My grip size is a 2 , so 95 - 97 sq inches is optimized for me .
A 95 demands alot of the player and yet can be optimized to become a PT57A . If your grip size is larger and you like the control and feel , try the positively reviewed new CX 400 tour 100 .
Dunlop is weaving its way into all areas of tennis and do endorse . Look at the contract with the european tennis association in 2022 . Slinger and kswiss seem to have a major enough investment by dunlop /srixon to push those products .
It seems like you need to adapt to the the playing styles forced upon players by the tour and there ball and court manipulations . Precision is still prized on tour . If you can get your hands on prince racquets to demo it may be beneficial for you. Donnay is quite difficult to demo and see in person . Luckily I am in NY where the pro one 97 octacore is sold . The store in NYC is " RPNY " and yet they should be available through belgium or other distributors in europe .
From your statement it seems that the vcore 95 is the racquet that makes it hard to transition from hard to clay courts . Is this also the case for the tc95 as well and or just any 95 ?
Lastly the concern with pallet size came from Mark Sansait on you tube with the k7 red and time410S on you tube in regards to grommets , as well as still being a concern for him on all the various racquets that he has purchased from angell . When I spoke to Paul angell on line , I brought this up and he stated nothing pro nor con about these issues . Total customization beyond the scope of the tc is also only possible if you purchased 20 + racquets .
The newer hot melt based react line seems to be a better performer than the tc even if you allowed paul angell's team to optimize them to their ideal performance and without negating anything to do so , and yet a 96 pro 18x20 does not seem like it would perform any better than my customized dunlop cx .
The new cx lineup may be equal or better and I can demo those . It is a risk to go in blindly . If the k7 red 98 were not just out of optimization range then it would be a contender . The slazenger cosmetic was nice .
Thank You ;
Derek
@@derekpappas1556 lack of performance comes from the lack of mass. TC95 MUST be heavy in order to perform. I think most 95" frames must be heavy in order to perform. I don't know why brands offer 95" with 310g/310mm balance and SW under 320. it's a bit stupid.
regarding control of tc95 it's the design. some will like it, some wont'. I personally loved it's response. just had to pick 1.30 gauge. The spin potential for it's headsize is absolutely top of the top. ye but you loose a bit of that control.
I can see Vcore 95 being compared to the legendary prestige frames there are some similarities between those lines and i see many prestige users actually preferring vcore 95 over percept 97.
i think any 95" can be a bit tricky from hard to clay. with tc95 it was maybe especially harder because if you time it wrong the ball will jump too high. vcore 95 is easier to play flat but its harder to push out the opponent.
there is a small difference between the grips of custom line and k7 line. k7 line felt a bit bigger to me :)
oh boy, what a conversation xddd
you owe me a coffe xddd
all the best,
Dan
@@dandan.tennis Put all of this on a video , it is worth it specifically and in general . Understanding all these points are important and they tend to get glossed over . Make it a discussion and lesson , based on conditions and performance balancing . An advisory would work as well .
I can understand if people choose the vcore 95 over the percept if the D and H are too heavy and unmanuverable for their needed performance . Even with added weight , the vcore 95 would be maneuverable and add control and comfort . Too much weight will cross the line and drasticly minimize comfort , manuverability and feel . So the wright racket layup is very important to performance .
1 of the 18x20 95's that I have in the CX came in with a low 311 vs 315 weight and low sw in the 270's without strings . The head lightness was 12 points . While it may seem bad , it was actually a god send because it created after strings and weight added to the head a 340 in weight and poss 9 points hl along with a sw in the 320 's . It was still highly maneuverable and worthly of being used as a more spin friendly racquet . I added a .33 thin overgrip for cosmetic and balancing reasons . The strings are head pps 17 in the mains at 42lbs and razorcode 18 in the cross at 36 lbs . Optimized tennis and increases the sweet spot while keeping their spin potentials equal at 6.0 and 6.1 . Power generation in the mains with some control rebalancing works .
While the the vcore 95 is easier to use off the bat , I did not feel a oneness with it and the new one looks too much like a squash racquet vs a tennis racquet . I can not see trying it . The vcore's 16x20 pattern does offer that balance of spin to control, but it's all in the spacing . To have to go to a 1.30 on a 16x19 just negates the spin benefit , then what's the point of the high spin . For angell It is all about balance and needing to make the wright decisions all around , even if it is not popular .
You would think that the pallets for the k7 would be the same as the tc choices in manufacturing , since it is your choice anyway . Perhaps the distributors are different . This needs to be corrected . The grommet weaknesses tend to apparently be at the knot holes .
FINAL AND THANK YOU ,
Derek