Tomer: will never consider a viewer-submitted list with hedron archive.... ME: Time to submit my Moonfolk tribal Kaldra list and add 1 HEDRON ARCHIVE!!!!!!
I'm sad they didn't play my "Secret from Tomer" Hedron Tribal deck, but man does it feel good to get a shout out from Seth and Crim. I'll probably need to update the deck now that we have Commander Legends stuff out and I really want to add some of those cards in.
@@stefanfan4030 Here's the link to the list I sent to the Goldfish Crew. I've already started brewing the sequel with the release of Commander Legends. Tomer don't you dare peek ;D ;D www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3502465#paper
"cant break infinite spore frog fogs". Literally has a mimic vat on the battlefield, that just disrupted all graveyard shennanigans in the world. A Classic
I love that Pinching Station is a 7 mana artifact, that essentially makes half as many 2/2's per turn as Field of the Dead. Which costs nothing and taps for mana.
Thank y'all for running my turtle deck! So excited to start running black with Archelos. Edit: Oof sorry for the flood. Man that was brutal, but hey, that's Magic for ya. Also that mystical tutor had so many hits in the deck, but I just checked the list and it looks like I forgot to put Devastation Tide in. Oh well, my B. Not the best showing but hey I thought the episode was great. Thank you Richard for running the deck!
@@turtle3611 It´s an awesome deck and there are some nice additions for my turtle deck. Turtles are a terrible tribe for tribe shenanigans. So i run a high toughness/ Sultai Clan theme for my deck. Adding Naga and Snakes for a little bit of extra flavour
@@genbu2870 Yeah they don't have any tribal synergy between them. But that's why I'm so excited to swap to Archelos just to add black to maybe shore up that lack of synergy. Also to add Wandering Tombshell lol. Hopefully Richard will champion the turtle tribe once again after Archelos releases.
41:00 Tomer, "fun fact" . Me, "here he goes to gush about Kaldra." 41:30 "The Mirrodin set symbols are the pieces of Kaldra." Me, " pays 1 to create a sadness avatar."
I love this series. Please, never stop playing splashy spells and jank themes. If you guys ever start feeling commander fatigue, cycle out members to keep the magic alive. Thank you for brightening my weekend spent in quarantine!
*Tomer starts complaining about how all his ramp is too expensive* Me: Ok Tomer chill out- *Seth plays a Gaddock Teeg locking Tomer out of his ramp* Me: THAT RAMP IS FAR TOO EXPENSIVE
Clicked for Mageta, was not disappointed. Also, never realized there was a debate on how his name was said, but at least he wrecked the board a bunch of times! Seems like a commander that is fun and crazy, and by being mono-white, is not going to be too nuts by definition. I suppose the proliferation of white effects that give your board indestructible makes him more interesting, but mono-white just struggles, even with a commander that in other colors would probably be really nuts.
oh lord, that no scope was priceless! A bunch of feels rushed into me when I saw you draw it! I was like "oh Tomer is going to loooooove this!". Feels good. Edit: TOMER NOOOOOO!!!!! you had one job!
I know this is a year old but I couldn’t believe what I was hearing come out of Tomers mouth on that one. Nas is consistently on peoples top 20s of all time. I’m from NY so I know I have an east coast bias but underrated??!
Whether something is a fruit or vegetable depends on context - are you speaking as a botanist, or discussing food? Tomatoes are the fruit of the plant, but when discussing food, most people consider them a vegetable. I'm not sure who considers garlic a fruit, given that the bulb is not the flower or fruit of the plant.
Re: Cyclonic Rift. The reason its not fun to watch is that its a single card that either wins the game, or means that only one person gets to play from now on. Insurrection will usually mean 1 person loses, but then the board state returns and the game continues (ignoring sac outlets and other shenanigans, but then its a multi card combo.)
I have loved Kaldra since I first opened them, I got my pieces from packs I opened and back then when I didn't have full spoilers for a set it was incredible saving up allowance and cracking packs, for no value, until you opened the equipment matching the set symbol (mirrodin - sword, darksteel - shield, fifth dawn - helm) and then I put them into every deck I made from then on. And while now I don't have them in every deck I always have at least one deck with them in it!
How can I submit my list for the next "submitted decklists" video? I have a Vannifar EDH deck that's poppin sweet and I wish to see it played in some big channels like yours. Since my birthday it's on 15th of December, it would be the best birthday wish ever! Just saying tho huehue
facecams are so insane how much they add to the show now seeing it when you dont have them. Makes me wonder in two years what will be insane that we dont have today.
The garlic part that is consumed is the seed part. A fruit is the seeding portion of the plant. Vegetables are the roots, leaves, and stems of the plants.
I think you guys should maybe talk about the powerlevel of decks before an episode so that there aren't two players with actually playable cards facing turtle tribal
@Tomer Botanically, garlic (Allium sativum) is considered a vegetable. It shows characteristics of a vegetable as it has a bulb, tall stem, and long leaves.
Brudiclad is one of those commanders everyone agrees is cool, to the point it's requested everywhere. EDHRec staff have all built it at least once each.
Brudiclad is literally my top 5 favorite creatures ever, I build around him all the time. I used to have a veryyy cool version of him I called "Attack of the Clones". Sadly, I had to sell a chunk of it ;(
'Vegetable' in the context Tomer was seeking is a culinary term, not a biological ones, so the Wikipedia article won't tell you. As a cook, I can tell you garlic is a seasoning, not a vegetable.
I would have got cruel celebrant instead of sun titan with mimic vat, or copy it later with rite of replication. Seth have very few outs to 20-30 cruel celebrants, even if he won't die immediatly, and even 1 break his sacrifice loop win. Sac fog frog? Sure, drain you for 30.
Am I missing something or is the math in the Cloning Golems page wrong? wouldn't 2 kicked Rites just give you 186 Precursor Golems and 1017 Vanilla Golems?
No. After the first Rite, you have 6 Precursor Golems, so when you cast the second Rite you get 6 triggers. When each trigger resolves, you get a kicked Rite targeting each of your other golems. Those resolve before the remaining triggers, making 5 copies of each of your golems, and the ones that are precursors make more vanilla golems. Then you resolve the next trigger and get another set of Rites targeting all your golems...
Also Tomer: Has incredibly destructive game ending board state with "Poo Poo" deck. Also Also Tomer: Skips his game ending combat. Also sad he didnt just make them all sun titans.
NAS was the first rapper to ever win a Grammy with his song featuring Lauren Hill "If I Ruled The World". He got best song of the year. At the time there wasn't a rap/hip-hop category.
Garlic is a vegetable. Fruits are defined as the seed bearing structure from flowering plants formed from the ovary after flowering. Vegetables are loosely defined as pretty much every other edible parts of plants. Fun fact: the state vegetable of Oklahoma (my home state) is the Watermelon. Wish I was kidding.
I would like Cyclonic Rift to stay on the banned list for Commander Clash so that people will not hassle. I love the card, and I don't mind seeing it win games. But I like not seeing people hassle about it.
i don't get why seth was searching for a sac outlet as spore frog is selfsacrifice he just had to get it in case of and reanimate it in response to anything after sac it
In English, the term "vegetable" is pretty loose and is often used to describe, like, any leafy green or planty food thing. There might be some scientific definition but it's loosly "any edible plant". So I'd say garlic is a vegetable, but a subcategory of like, rooty vegetable versus a leafy vegetable like cabbage or something
1:11:01 Tomer why didn't you choose the Brudiclad token and make all of your tokens non-legendary versions of Brudiclad? EDIT: He saw the line 2 minutes later
Brudiclad has a couple of ways of dealing with enchantments, mainly copying Knight of Autumn with Rite of Replication, but also more realistically Ugin, the Ineffable.
Tayam only removes counters from creatures, so Tangle Wire doesn't combo with Tayam directly. It's in the deck as a very powerful stax card in the short term, and helps protect him from interaction early on while you set up the board for a combo win. That said he sat around with Fiend Artisan in his graveyard for what felt like forever, but kept talking about needing a sac outlet. Fiend Artisan's whole job in the deck is to tutor combo and stax pieces as needed.
“Standard legal in China only” was the funniest thing. That turtle is too OP for the rest of the world
"while Seth be durdling, I'm gonna be turtling" lol.
Tomer: will never consider a viewer-submitted list with hedron archive....
ME: Time to submit my Moonfolk tribal Kaldra list and add 1 HEDRON ARCHIVE!!!!!!
I don't consider decks with Moonfolk or Kaldra either so that list would be the easiest skip.
I'm sad they didn't play my "Secret from Tomer" Hedron Tribal deck, but man does it feel good to get a shout out from Seth and Crim. I'll probably need to update the deck now that we have Commander Legends stuff out and I really want to add some of those cards in.
pssssst could you share me the link please? rly wanna see it now
It sounds like such a cool deck
@@stefanfan4030 Here's the link to the list I sent to the Goldfish Crew. I've already started brewing the sequel with the release of Commander Legends. Tomer don't you dare peek ;D ;D www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3502465#paper
@@VRanger100 that's so sweeeeet I really hope one of the guys picks it
"cant break infinite spore frog fogs".
Literally has a mimic vat on the battlefield, that just disrupted all graveyard shennanigans in the world. A Classic
Seth can just return the frog to the field in response with his land and/or with his commander.
@@ODIRGO it would force targets making deck less efficient
@@ODIRGO Mimic Vat is a replacement effect, spore frog would go straight into exile and not be able to be returned
@@ewanhiddleston6642 Mimic vat is not a replacement effect. It's a trigger effect. It doesn't even have the word "instead" on its text.
I love that Pinching Station is a 7 mana artifact, that essentially makes half as many 2/2's per turn as Field of the Dead. Which costs nothing and taps for mana.
Thank y'all for running my turtle deck! So excited to start running black with Archelos.
Edit: Oof sorry for the flood. Man that was brutal, but hey, that's Magic for ya. Also that mystical tutor had so many hits in the deck, but I just checked the list and it looks like I forgot to put Devastation Tide in. Oh well, my B. Not the best showing but hey I thought the episode was great. Thank you Richard for running the deck!
Would it be "running" if it's turtles, though?
So sad that he drew so many lands, but yeah I guess the deck didn't quite get off to a running start.
Yeah the flood was brutal. The deck has all 18 turtles in the Simic colors out of 28 creatures (29 if you count birthing boughs).
@@turtle3611 It´s an awesome deck and there are some nice additions for my turtle deck.
Turtles are a terrible tribe for tribe shenanigans. So i run a high toughness/ Sultai Clan theme for my deck. Adding Naga and Snakes for a little bit of extra flavour
@@genbu2870 Yeah they don't have any tribal synergy between them. But that's why I'm so excited to swap to Archelos just to add black to maybe shore up that lack of synergy. Also to add Wandering Tombshell lol. Hopefully Richard will champion the turtle tribe once again after Archelos releases.
41:00 Tomer, "fun fact" . Me, "here he goes to gush about Kaldra." 41:30 "The Mirrodin set symbols are the pieces of Kaldra." Me, " pays 1 to create a sadness avatar."
Crim: I won’t strip mine you. Does
Crim: I won’t wrath. Does
Crim: seth broke our spoken agreement I’ll get him!
Love you crim never change.
Still hoping for a 4 Sisters of Innistrad Week :3
Thematically, that would be sick!
Gameplay-wise, probably 2 voltron decks vs boros burn vs life tax/gain, and 4 smothering tithes...
Tomer recently said that will be happening.
@@Welverin AWESOME :3
I love this series. Please, never stop playing splashy spells and jank themes. If you guys ever start feeling commander fatigue, cycle out members to keep the magic alive. Thank you for brightening my weekend spent in quarantine!
I just realized Tayam interacts favorably with cumulative upkeep...mmmmm
Less so than you're probably thinking. Tayam only removes counters from creatures.
@@MinionNumber3 a constant source of counters is worth considering at least. But yes, there like to be very few that are worth it.
*Tomer starts complaining about how all his ramp is too expensive*
Me: Ok Tomer chill out-
*Seth plays a Gaddock Teeg locking Tomer out of his ramp*
Me: THAT RAMP IS FAR TOO EXPENSIVE
Clicked for Mageta, was not disappointed.
Also, never realized there was a debate on how his name was said, but at least he wrecked the board a bunch of times! Seems like a commander that is fun and crazy, and by being mono-white, is not going to be too nuts by definition. I suppose the proliferation of white effects that give your board indestructible makes him more interesting, but mono-white just struggles, even with a commander that in other colors would probably be really nuts.
oh lord, that no scope was priceless! A bunch of feels rushed into me when I saw you draw it! I was like "oh Tomer is going to loooooove this!". Feels good.
Edit: TOMER NOOOOOO!!!!! you had one job!
1:00 It is so cool to hear Seth say "Doug, probably better known as Dan Wildfire" so long ago
Illmatic is a classic and Nas is a legend. underrated is not a word I'd use to describe him
I know this is a year old but I couldn’t believe what I was hearing come out of Tomers mouth on that one. Nas is consistently on peoples top 20s of all time. I’m from NY so I know I have an east coast bias but underrated??!
Great game guys, unfortunate on the missed attack by tomer. But seriously one of the best games I have seen here on CC for a long time! Awesome!
Enjoyed seeing Brudiclad in action. Might give the deck a chance and build around it. Seems fun.
Tomer: *realizes he could have made a token copy of wurmcoil pre combat*
Tomer: Aww geez
He could've exiled Wurmcoil Engine with Mimic Vat, but he skipped it in favor of Sun Titan for some reason.
@@SmashPortal probably so he can make more copies of sun titan and that he can go crazy with recursion
@@SmashPortal Making Sun Titan protects Mimic Vat I guess?
Seth, use your assassin's trophy, man!
Been waiting a week to see how Tayam does!
14:30 That sounded like i should run archive in every deck, including ni-rump Teysa one. Thank you, Tomer!
Whether something is a fruit or vegetable depends on context - are you speaking as a botanist, or discussing food? Tomatoes are the fruit of the plant, but when discussing food, most people consider them a vegetable. I'm not sure who considers garlic a fruit, given that the bulb is not the flower or fruit of the plant.
This feels like a slap bet.
Make it loom!
By the way, the deck was made by Jeriah, not Daenen.
Would probably help if you posted that while logged in as Daenen_Wildfire lol
Hold your horses can be reiterated into "pull your ponies"
Please don't hate me
And both are telling you to "be stable"
Re: Cyclonic Rift. The reason its not fun to watch is that its a single card that either wins the game, or means that only one person gets to play from now on. Insurrection will usually mean 1 person loses, but then the board state returns and the game continues (ignoring sac outlets and other shenanigans, but then its a multi card combo.)
Tomer losing to MTGO passing through his combat step was low key bullshit.
Always is
4:33 😂😂😂 One of the All Time funniest moments from Commander Clash !!! 🐢🐢🐢
I have loved Kaldra since I first opened them, I got my pieces from packs I opened and back then when I didn't have full spoilers for a set it was incredible saving up allowance and cracking packs, for no value, until you opened the equipment matching the set symbol (mirrodin - sword, darksteel - shield, fifth dawn - helm) and then I put them into every deck I made from then on. And while now I don't have them in every deck I always have at least one deck with them in it!
How can I submit my list for the next "submitted decklists" video? I have a Vannifar EDH deck that's poppin sweet and I wish to see it played in some big channels like yours. Since my birthday it's on 15th of December, it would be the best birthday wish ever! Just saying tho huehue
I really enjoy the decks that are user submitted or themed. Btw will you guys ever get guests back on commander clash?
facecams are so insane how much they add to the show now seeing it when you dont have them.
Makes me wonder in two years what will be insane that we dont have today.
1:16:20
"It's MEGETA!"
I'm dying!
The garlic part that is consumed is the seed part. A fruit is the seeding portion of the plant. Vegetables are the roots, leaves, and stems of the plants.
Richard is the "Puffy" of the MTGgoldfish crew
Someone tell me if I am getting it wrong, but Tanglewire(having Fading counters) is in there as a combo for Seth's commander?
You are quite correct.
I think you guys should maybe talk about the powerlevel of decks before an episode so that there aren't two players with actually playable cards facing turtle tribal
2 players seth and tomer
Lol I'm ded. The reefer worm though. 🤣
Im hyped for brudiclad. Hes a cool deck
Recently made brusiclad a secret commander in a jeskai tokens deck. He’s super fun
"There's no instant or sorcery turtles!" Check again buddy, Shell Shield. BOOM!
Garlic Gun = Team Four Stars abridged series reference. well done Tomer well done.
Where do we submit a deck to them?
Tomer being a Nas fan is not something I ever would have expected
I was hoping you guys would make the Clash Commander Legends edition. I'm really looking forward to see Seth's take on Blim, Comedic Genius
@Tomer Botanically, garlic (Allium sativum) is considered a vegetable. It shows characteristics of a vegetable as it has a bulb, tall stem, and long leaves.
Brudiclad is one of those commanders everyone agrees is cool, to the point it's requested everywhere. EDHRec staff have all built it at least once each.
Brudiclad is literally my top 5 favorite creatures ever, I build around him all the time. I used to have a veryyy cool version of him I called "Attack of the Clones". Sadly, I had to sell a chunk of it ;(
What is the one with the stars for?
Which week was the Seth and crim deal gone wrong
just curious, is it possible to add you guys as friends on magic the gathering online?
I liked the hedron archive video. It was entertaining
Awesome. That was an ending.
Tangle Wire has 3 counters on it so it helps enable your combo..
Tayam can only remove counters from creatures.
I thought Set said "Elspeth conquers Seth" at one point 😂
'Vegetable' in the context Tomer was seeking is a culinary term, not a biological ones, so the Wikipedia article won't tell you. As a cook, I can tell you garlic is a seasoning, not a vegetable.
You're not a cook, Mr. Curry. You're a spice.
@@marymccleary8757 Nice.
1:30:20 is the timestamp Tomer really hopes everyone will just forget
Edit: I spoke too soon - 2:12:12
I would have got cruel celebrant instead of sun titan with mimic vat, or copy it later with rite of replication. Seth have very few outs to 20-30 cruel celebrants, even if he won't die immediatly, and even 1 break his sacrifice loop win. Sac fog frog? Sure, drain you for 30.
It's Garlic gun, Tomer was right (as always)
31:56 Seth sounds like the Skeksis' Chamberlain from The Dark Crystal.
What program are they using?
Wow I'd just finished watching the previous weeklong chaos week video and they've already uploaded another
The epic Tomer punts never fail
Looks like Richard is using Tomer's merfolk deck.
How could you get rid of tayam's horns in the intro?
Tomer discarded archive to counter something, didn’t he?
Tbf, this was a tomer win, if i was in Seth's place i would have conceded
Am I missing something or is the math in the Cloning Golems page wrong? wouldn't 2 kicked Rites just give you 186 Precursor Golems and 1017 Vanilla Golems?
No. After the first Rite, you have 6 Precursor Golems, so when you cast the second Rite you get 6 triggers. When each trigger resolves, you get a kicked Rite targeting each of your other golems. Those resolve before the remaining triggers, making 5 copies of each of your golems, and the ones that are precursors make more vanilla golems. Then you resolve the next trigger and get another set of Rites targeting all your golems...
So I was missing something, thanks.
Yey!!l. Tomer pov. I’ve missed that
Tomer: Picks deck.
Also Tomer: THIS DECK IS POO POO
Also Tomer: Has incredibly destructive game ending board state with "Poo Poo" deck.
Also Also Tomer: Skips his game ending combat.
Also sad he didnt just make them all sun titans.
@@PvtSkittles656 no deck in the world can work around pilot errors.
Villian Crimmander Clash featuring the 4 Horsepeople of Apocalypse Jen vs Vince Vs Crim Vs Jake!!
NAS was the first rapper to ever win a Grammy with his song featuring Lauren Hill "If I Ruled The World". He got best song of the year. At the time there wasn't a rap/hip-hop category.
Garlic is a vegetable. Fruits are defined as the seed bearing structure from flowering plants formed from the ovary after flowering. Vegetables are loosely defined as pretty much every other edible parts of plants. Fun fact: the state vegetable of Oklahoma (my home state) is the Watermelon. Wish I was kidding.
I would like Cyclonic Rift to stay on the banned list for Commander Clash so that people will not hassle. I love the card, and I don't mind seeing it win games. But I like not seeing people hassle about it.
Random Nas's Illmatic moment, that's a first for the clash lol
Imagine pronouncing Nas wrong. I thought Seth was the one to do that. Also, Seneca@York represent!
He was whaling on me 👀 🤣
Ok that was the punt of all punts.
First! Also, mad props to the editor for quick turn around!
Well that was a huge punt. But wow that was a great game.
i don't get why seth was searching for a sac outlet as spore frog is selfsacrifice he just had to get it in case of and reanimate it in response to anything after sac it
The same now
Cyclonic Rift deals with enchantments
Tayam will rule the world. I love my Tayam deck.
Yeah! Back to Tomer cam!
So you guys have done commander clash where you all have to use a random card. What if you did a commander clash where you had to use random partners?
Tomer’s famous move: Bluff or Punt!
Saw Brudiclad had to watch
In English, the term "vegetable" is pretty loose and is often used to describe, like, any leafy green or planty food thing. There might be some scientific definition but it's loosly "any edible plant". So I'd say garlic is a vegetable, but a subcategory of like, rooty vegetable versus a leafy vegetable like cabbage or something
I saw the verbal agreement
How do we submit decks?
The week before viewer submitted they'll say to comment ur deck list under a comment by mtgoldfish
Seth's aristocrats deck has one proper sac outlet. ONE.
I put hedron archive in my Ich-Tekik eggs thing, it's really good in there I'm sorry tomer.
Tomer you lied there isn’t a koz highlight video yet 😭😭😭
1:11:01 Tomer why didn't you choose the Brudiclad token and make all of your tokens non-legendary versions of Brudiclad? EDIT: He saw the line 2 minutes later
Why didn't Crim path the fish at 53:20? If his plan was to wrath the board that's the creature that had to go!
With brudiclad I turned 1 sharing sphink into 18 and attacked with all of the sharing sphinxes
Brudiclad has a couple of ways of dealing with enchantments, mainly copying Knight of Autumn with Rite of Replication, but also more realistically Ugin, the Ineffable.
Darksteel was a set of mirrodin
I'm only half way still, but Seth. The Tangle Wire was an easy 3 counters to remove
Tayam only removes counters from creatures, so Tangle Wire doesn't combo with Tayam directly. It's in the deck as a very powerful stax card in the short term, and helps protect him from interaction early on while you set up the board for a combo win.
That said he sat around with Fiend Artisan in his graveyard for what felt like forever, but kept talking about needing a sac outlet. Fiend Artisan's whole job in the deck is to tutor combo and stax pieces as needed.