I have never had an Issue getting an urbie to fly. Its a simple process really. Have an atlas pick up the urbie, hot load said urbie into the muzzel of the HGR of a Fafnir and let her rip. Clan elementals also work in the same fashion, it just takes 3 elementals to equal one urbie in throw weight.
F-4 Phantom is proof that "if you put enough thrust behind a brick, you can make it fly." - Col. Clarence “Dick” Anderegg, who flew 170 combat missions over Vietnam.
I will not stand for any LAM Slander in this here House of the Dragon. We had produced these fine machines for many generations. That is, before the Cat arrived...
Thanks for mincing your words. As a LAM fan, I'm very appreciative that such a big BT persona voiced very valid LAM critique, without completely dumpstering on the whole concept. My life wouldn't have ended if you were a bit more harsh, but the little head nod to us LAMlovers warms my center torso.
I mean, I'm really not a fan, and I don't think they fit in the setting at all, narratively or on the tabletop, but some people love them. They're just not really reflective of Battletech and how its depicted.
it is already an april fools gag on Sarna so this is nothing new, and considering that this channel has it out for the mech, this is no surprise at all.
Everything I have heard about the rules for LAMs has scared me off from getting into them. That being said, I was on the forums the other day and someone pointed out that they could possibly be something to add to Clan Snow Raven maybe in the future to give them something special and thematic to make them stand out in a way sorta symmetrical to Hell's Horses with their Quadvees.
While I know this doesn't mean we are getting the others - I really do hope that they do a LAM box set - either as a 3 model box for each type (eg: Stinger, Stinger Guardian, Stinger LAM) or do a 6 pack of the Guardian/LAM versions of the primary 3 (Stinger, Wasp, PhoenixHawk).
Honestly, I had a good cackle at the news. It also reminded me of Eldonious Rex's Urbie LAM artwork that fused our lovable trashcan with the aesthetic of Valkyries/Veritechs. Hope you have safe travels!
Hey big red, I dont comment a lot but I am glad you are taking more time to take care of yourself. Also thank you for reminding Tex that you guys are beloved by the community on the BPL podcast. Speaking of podcasts as you may have contacts from a much wider audience of both battletech and 40K I would just like to put it out in the eather that I would love to listen to an Adeptus Ridiculous style battletech podcast that is loretainement/ infotainment focused, If there is some lorehound with a great radio voice who has the time and has been thinking of doing it.
What!?! Urbies fly now!?! This is insanity! It's like Peter Venkman said, "Human Sacrifice. Cats living with dogs. Mass hysteria!" I bet that they still fly slower than most mechs walk though...
Enjoy Schaumburg. It is a decent venue. Take plenty of pictures! Last year the Battletech banner was the biggest! The play area and booth was great 👍 Lots of other things of course, Golden Dragon awards and such. Safe travels!
I decreased my working hours from 40 to 32 hours (so less than half of your workload) While I have less money available it was definitely the right decision. I would have finally burned out. Even if you have the best Job in the World, you only can do so much before your body and mind fail. So stepping back and reducing the workload is just wise and better for All of us in the long run.
Reminds me of an OLD Ghost Bear message board I used to be on as a kid in the 90's, where the head admin was obsessed with an Urbanmech Quad LAM. Of course such a thing was... difficult to make, but I think I remember him jiggering a spec sheet program to make it happen, and someone did some crude renderings of it.
For a bit more context on the LAMs not coming back, the other aspect is that Ray has also mentioned (via a recent Sarna interview) that while the whole of Aerotech has a small dedicated fanbase, it doesn't really convert to sales numbers. To horrendously paraphrase, 'People say they like warships, dropships, etc, but when push comes to shove it never translates to broader usage' At least to me, the urbie-LAM seems to fall into the april-fools joke-product sales numbers paradigm that has broad appeal, rather than the standard LAM-aerotech "we say we want it but never actually buy it" paradigm
Finally... Urby Air Suport. It does remind me of those old bombers, like the superfortress and stratofortress. I'm going to buy two of these little cursed suckers...
Being both a Battletech and Robotech fan I was very excited for the LAM way back when they came out. After playing them on the tabletop they fairly quickly fell to the way side with my player group as they did not play well on the table top. Just didn't feel like Battletech by the time we got the rules for them.
I wouldn't mind seeing fixed mode mechs that were similar to the middle modes of the old LAMs, but with completely different wing and cockpit areas. After all, the wings of the old Phoenix Hawk LAM metal mini was so radically different from the Macross mech that you really couldn't say it was a Gerwalk Valkyrie - or that it could have conceivably transformed from a Phoenix Hawk. No jet mode, no battloid mode, and preferably no similarities to the Macross designs.
A planet-lifter is usually sufficient to make an urbanmech fly. Indeed for strategic mobility without a drops-hip, use of a planet lifter is a legitimate tactics. Enjoy the time-off BigRed. You deserve it! I know you’re still working offline but hope you find this a refreshing break for you.
You know the only reason this mech exists is because some grunt somewhere was like “man, if only thing destroyer of worlds could fly.” And some gov’t contractor said “hold my beer”
I am a LAM fan but I doubt we’ll see plastic LAMs anytime soon. It’s a business and there are so many other Mechs that would be more profitable if released in plastic. I like the Urbanmech LAM release as the fun little thing it is. Looking forward to more of your content whenever you can get it done👍 It’s always top quality.
Technically, there is s speed limit to get airborne under the LAM rules of old. Which an Urbie cannot reach. Unless it jumps off a cliff to gain enough speed to take flight. Even so I have a pair of custom made quad-Urbie LAM figures me and a couple of guys paid for. As a lark with the PUB. Palerider's Uber-urbanmech Brigade.
IMHO, Catalyst, etc. needs to find a way to make air power work in Battletech. The world of Battletech should reflect modern combined arms, and it does, except air power (which is all-important today).
What got me in the door, and out of it as well, was the Macross mechs. Especially the veritech fighter. Even now, the Phoenix Hawk is my favorite mech. The CGL model is great. I also love the 3 modes of the veritech. Which works great as a mech, helio-gunship and fighter jet. That said, I agree with those that think LAMs shouldn't really be a functional thing in Battletech. The setting has nutso technology (teleporting autoloaders), but LAMs don't need to be one. The tabletop mechs don't really give LAMs a niche that feels necessary. In all likelihood, LAMs would continue to be not worth it or bend everything around them to deal with them. Neither are great options.
I've worked out the PERFECT way to use the LAM Urbanmech: shove them out of the dropship over the battlefield and let them land and distract the enemy Mechs, while your own forces keep fighting! And if the Urbies land in one piece, they can soak up some of the incoming fire as well!
Finally! A flying trash can! I'm not up to date on the current LAM rules , but IIRC there used to be a minimum amount of hexes that a LAM in Airmech mode must travel to stay airborne. Under current rules is an Urbie even fast enough to do that? Also it would be REALLY great if this flying trash can was available in the 3025 era. Even if they have to downgrade the gun.
"And thus it came to pass, that the Church of the Flying UrbanMech was born, with its chapel shrines spreading plucky hope throughout the Inner Sphere. "And it came to pass that the clans' iron wombs were placed within the UrbanMech and warriors were birthed between its legs. "And the Children of Kerensky said together, "Hail, Mother UrbanMech who begets our trueborn warriors as they should have been: Trashborn! They will cleanse the galaxy in holy dumpster fire!" Selah.
It is going to be one off until it sells well and I think we could see LAMs not as playable mech but as paint projects. So CGL can try to attract people who like to paint minis but don't play a lot of games.
I'm a LAM loving clannie, but it is not hard to admit that they are hard to incorporate well with the setting. It very much can and has been done, but i would rather not see it made cannon as some piss poor business decision. Bring them back in once large scale space-navy combat is normalized again, where they have a niche to carve out that's useful.
Urbanmech LAM... Even before you said it was one off, I was muttering "April is in three weeks". The LAM as is makes little sense, but we have the partial wing. A full fledged wing, a gerwalk, makes sense. Even a gerwalk/mech transitional. BUT, LAMs and those tracked Hell Horses abortions are canon. They're in too much of the lore. We're stuck with them. And Harmony Gold is welcome to try again- the copywrite case law has changed. This could bring Macross back to North America without bad fan subs of the Indonesian dub and torch Robotech.
On the one hand, as much as I like my transforming robots, the UrbanLAM hurts my soul. On the other hand, at least now in Air-Mech mode it can theoretically generate some half-decent defensive movement bonuses, right? :P
It's a couple of weeks early for an April First joke. So it "transforms" by pointing it's guns "up" and firing off it's legs jump jets and it already has "wings" built into it's back. It doesn't really "transform" at all. It looks like Leader 1 ate a bit too much and got fat.
Wouldn't they have to add five or ten tons to the chassis to make the thing fly, though? That would quickly bump the Urbie into the Medium mech range, considering its already at the top of Light.
For a brief moment the thought of an Urbanmech LAM was highly concerning but it is funny. I wouldn't mind plastics for the other ones but I do also agree that they don't entirely fit what Battletech became.
I love LAMs, and there are dozens of us, DOZENS!
#37 reporting for duty!
Dozens!!
Baker's dozens!
Why are LAM so hard to hit.. my pilots are like lvl 7-10 gunnery skill
LAMs, or HAMs?
The Urbanmech LAM is proof that you can make anything fly if you have enough dynamite ...
Relevant: /watch?v=2Gw5pdTyu_w
I have never had an Issue getting an urbie to fly. Its a simple process really. Have an atlas pick up the urbie, hot load said urbie into the muzzel of the HGR of a Fafnir and let her rip. Clan elementals also work in the same fashion, it just takes 3 elementals to equal one urbie in throw weight.
YEEEEEEETTTTT!!!!!
F-4 Phantom is proof that "if you put enough thrust behind a brick, you can make it fly." - Col. Clarence “Dick” Anderegg, who flew 170 combat missions over Vietnam.
Certain modern tanks have proved this concept 😂
I will not stand for any LAM Slander in this here House of the Dragon. We had produced these fine machines for many generations. That is, before the Cat arrived...
You've not even heard the video yet, it's not out yet! lol
sLAMder?
House cats keep knocking my minis over.
finally we have reached the peak of human technology
If R2 can fly, then Urbies can fly, too!
That just good science.
R2 can not fly.
That shit is dumb
To be fair Jumpjet atlases are totally normal so why not LAM urbies?
Phoenix Hawk LAM would be a giant flex on Harmony Gold though. Have fun a Adepticon
House Davion aerospace pilot: "They fly now?!?" Urbanmech: "We fly now" (Brrrrrrts with malicious intent as "Freebird" plays loudly through speakers)
Thanks for mincing your words. As a LAM fan, I'm very appreciative that such a big BT persona voiced very valid LAM critique, without completely dumpstering on the whole concept.
My life wouldn't have ended if you were a bit more harsh, but the little head nod to us LAMlovers warms my center torso.
I mean, I'm really not a fan, and I don't think they fit in the setting at all, narratively or on the tabletop, but some people love them. They're just not really reflective of Battletech and how its depicted.
Wait it's not April Fools Day yet!
it is already an april fools gag on Sarna so this is nothing new, and considering that this channel has it out for the mech, this is no surprise at all.
Ah, a new Arrow IV ammunition type!
Urbanmech LAMs firing Urbanmech LAMs firing Urbanmech LAMs firing Arrow IV! It’s Urbanmechs all the way down!
Everything I have heard about the rules for LAMs has scared me off from getting into them. That being said, I was on the forums the other day and someone pointed out that they could possibly be something to add to Clan Snow Raven maybe in the future to give them something special and thematic to make them stand out in a way sorta symmetrical to Hell's Horses with their Quadvees.
I ALWAYS love and support LAMs. Even silly ones! Fun video, Red. Thank you!
Trash cans fly now?
Trash cans fly now!
It IS a Trash CAN, not a Trash Can't!
I know Red loves Urbanmechs and LAMs almost as much as he loves protomechs. This is a big moment for him.
CGL: Announces Urbie LAM
Me: This is not an out of season April Fools joke, it’s an early April Fools joke
Also safe travels Red, enjoy your trip 😃
And it will sell like hot buns. Which will privide more money for more serious new models. A win-win for me.
All hail to the flying trashcan!!!😜
While I know this doesn't mean we are getting the others - I really do hope that they do a LAM box set - either as a 3 model box for each type (eg: Stinger, Stinger Guardian, Stinger LAM) or do a 6 pack of the Guardian/LAM versions of the primary 3 (Stinger, Wasp, PhoenixHawk).
Darn. Can't just impulse buy the LAM urban mech. -yet.
Steiner scout lance: "Da fuuu is that?!?"
A target
Death @@vinter5256
Skeet practice?
Urbanmech LAM: "Oh, you know-"
*AC-20 Headshot*
"a REAL scout mech."
Thanks for the update and safe travels to you!
Two things, one you mean my strategy of “Kick the Baby” using an Atlas and urbie will work, and two are they gearing up for April fools?
Honestly, I had a good cackle at the news. It also reminded me of Eldonious Rex's Urbie LAM artwork that fused our lovable trashcan with the aesthetic of Valkyries/Veritechs.
Hope you have safe travels!
Hey big red, I dont comment a lot but I am glad you are taking more time to take care of yourself. Also thank you for reminding Tex that you guys are beloved by the community on the BPL podcast.
Speaking of podcasts as you may have contacts from a much wider audience of both battletech and 40K I would just like to put it out in the eather that I would love to listen to an Adeptus Ridiculous style battletech podcast that is loretainement/ infotainment focused, If there is some lorehound with a great radio voice who has the time and has been thinking of doing it.
I hope someone paints it like Superman
That should be the fastest urbanmech ever designed XD
I love lams and Stan the urban lam
... What in the cinnamon toast fuck?
I stop paying attention to BattleTech for a month and this happens
I want 3
Will have to listen later! Just a comment for the algorithm! Hope you are doing well red and have fun at adepticon!
Enjoy your break. See you in two to three weeks. Take care.
Hey red. Your long form lore videos always get me through work. Enjoy your break/travels bro you deserve it for your hard work.
Avatar frothy mouth cheer meme engaged.
I wish you luck on the weight loss. Thanks for the videos & the work you put in them.
What!?! Urbies fly now!?! This is insanity! It's like Peter Venkman said, "Human Sacrifice. Cats living with dogs. Mass hysteria!" I bet that they still fly slower than most mechs walk though...
Enjoy Schaumburg. It is a decent venue. Take plenty of pictures! Last year the Battletech banner was the biggest! The play area and booth was great 👍 Lots of other things of course, Golden Dragon awards and such. Safe travels!
I decreased my working hours from 40 to 32 hours (so less than half of your workload)
While I have less money available it was definitely the right decision. I would have finally burned out. Even if you have the best Job in the World, you only can do so much before your body and mind fail. So stepping back and reducing the workload is just wise and better for All of us in the long run.
Completely understandable and good luck, Big Red. Keep being awesome.
Good for you taking time for yourself and enjoy your trip. I can't wait to start travelling again.
Reminds me of an OLD Ghost Bear message board I used to be on as a kid in the 90's, where the head admin was obsessed with an Urbanmech Quad LAM. Of course such a thing was... difficult to make, but I think I remember him jiggering a spec sheet program to make it happen, and someone did some crude renderings of it.
Be safe and welcome to America!
Oh god the air ships have returned
For a bit more context on the LAMs not coming back, the other aspect is that Ray has also mentioned (via a recent Sarna interview) that while the whole of Aerotech has a small dedicated fanbase, it doesn't really convert to sales numbers.
To horrendously paraphrase, 'People say they like warships, dropships, etc, but when push comes to shove it never translates to broader usage'
At least to me, the urbie-LAM seems to fall into the april-fools joke-product sales numbers paradigm that has broad appeal, rather than the standard LAM-aerotech "we say we want it but never actually buy it" paradigm
Flying dustbin? Oooh.
BTW I remember tech readout 3050 being released. I stopped playing tabletop shortly afterwards...
Good stuff putting your health first! Enjoy your trip Red. Hope your catch a flight in the new Urbie LAM :D
Hope to see you at adepticon. Good luck on the flight and enjoy your travels man.
I'm glad your slowing down a bit, nobody can work like that forever. Stay healthy my guy
Finally... Urby Air Suport. It does remind me of those old bombers, like the superfortress and stratofortress. I'm going to buy two of these little cursed suckers...
Heard about the UrbieLAM from a FLGS where we actually do have Urbie Derbies, so this it excellent news!
I'll be making the clićhe comment: "It's a bird?! It's a plane?! No! It's Superurben-LAM!😘
A flying Urbie. I guess if it had a friend whom was an Atlas (or Atlas II) who could toss it far enough.. and enjoy the convention.
Have a good trip red. Safe travels
May O'hare and Schaumburg treat you well BigRed! I'm hoping to visit Adepticon for the first time ever as well!
Being both a Battletech and Robotech fan I was very excited for the LAM way back when they came out. After playing them on the tabletop they fairly quickly fell to the way side with my player group as they did not play well on the table top. Just didn't feel like Battletech by the time we got the rules for them.
More excited about the chance to possibly run into Big Red at Adepticon(also being my first ever convention) than a gimmick Urbie. :D
That's cool that you are travelling. Enjoy!
Glad to hear you are feeling happier and healthier, that's always great ^^
Appreciate you Big Red your content. Enjoy your time!
"Just don't actively hate me!"
*I dunno man, that's a pretty big ask from a Canadian*
I hope you have a great trip to Adepticon someday I’ll get to another con myself it’s been over 25 years for me
3:42 silver lining ... i get time to catch up on previous videos
C'mon, Veritech Urbie LAM in the Dark Ages! Flight through a giant yeet seat!
I wouldn't mind seeing fixed mode mechs that were similar to the middle modes of the old LAMs, but with completely different wing and cockpit areas. After all, the wings of the old Phoenix Hawk LAM metal mini was so radically different from the Macross mech that you really couldn't say it was a Gerwalk Valkyrie - or that it could have conceivably transformed from a Phoenix Hawk.
No jet mode, no battloid mode, and preferably no similarities to the Macross designs.
The Superman theme would have been appropriate soundtrack for this announcement.
A planet-lifter is usually sufficient to make an urbanmech fly. Indeed for strategic mobility without a drops-hip, use of a planet lifter is a legitimate tactics.
Enjoy the time-off BigRed. You deserve it! I know you’re still working offline but hope you find this a refreshing break for you.
You know the only reason this mech exists is because some grunt somewhere was like “man, if only thing destroyer of worlds could fly.” And some gov’t contractor said “hold my beer”
They fly now!
I am a LAM fan but I doubt we’ll see plastic LAMs anytime soon. It’s a business and there are so many other Mechs that would be more profitable if released in plastic.
I like the Urbanmech LAM release as the fun little thing it is.
Looking forward to more of your content whenever you can get it done👍 It’s always top quality.
Sigh, ...BattleTech was never really on board with all things flying. Not just LAMs but also ASFs and bigger ships.
It is just like it is.
Traveling!
Flying!
Well, better warm up your Urbanmech LAM! 😁
Have a good trip
WHAT?!? You have a life outside of the channel? Hope you have a great time and will catch you when you are back.
Technically, there is s speed limit to get airborne under the LAM rules of old. Which an Urbie cannot reach. Unless it jumps off a cliff to gain enough speed to take flight. Even so I have a pair of custom made quad-Urbie LAM figures me and a couple of guys paid for. As a lark with the PUB. Palerider's Uber-urbanmech Brigade.
Good for you, Enjoy your time at the event.
Good for you for cutting back, work life balance is important. Thanks for making great content!
IMHO, Catalyst, etc. needs to find a way to make air power work in Battletech.
The world of Battletech should reflect modern combined arms, and it does, except air power (which is all-important today).
Enjoy your trip, dont forget to bring some rock home, we all have sweet tooths. Leona
Good luck, safe flights.
Insert “They fly now?” Meme here.
I saw the thumbnail and immediately thought of Big Duo
What got me in the door, and out of it as well, was the Macross mechs. Especially the veritech fighter. Even now, the Phoenix Hawk is my favorite mech. The CGL model is great. I also love the 3 modes of the veritech. Which works great as a mech, helio-gunship and fighter jet.
That said, I agree with those that think LAMs shouldn't really be a functional thing in Battletech. The setting has nutso technology (teleporting autoloaders), but LAMs don't need to be one. The tabletop mechs don't really give LAMs a niche that feels necessary. In all likelihood, LAMs would continue to be not worth it or bend everything around them to deal with them. Neither are great options.
that's why they are an optional rule....use em or don't use em'....same way people can pick and choose the era's and tech levels they wanna play.
I've worked out the PERFECT way to use the LAM Urbanmech: shove them out of the dropship over the battlefield and let them land and distract the enemy Mechs, while your own forces keep fighting! And if the Urbies land in one piece, they can soak up some of the incoming fire as well!
Hope I see you at adepticon!
Finally! A flying trash can!
I'm not up to date on the current LAM rules , but IIRC there used to be a minimum amount of hexes that a
LAM in Airmech mode must travel to stay airborne.
Under current rules is an Urbie even fast enough to do that?
Also it would be REALLY great if this flying trash can was available in the 3025 era.
Even if they have to downgrade the gun.
stat lines i've seen for it by fans give it a 3/5/5 move profile....which means when its in airmech mode its cruise is 15, and its flank speed is 23
@@fochtsnetwork I REALLY need to get all of the current/correct LAM rules and catch up on it all.
"And thus it came to pass, that the Church of the Flying UrbanMech was born, with its chapel shrines spreading plucky hope throughout the Inner Sphere.
"And it came to pass that the clans' iron wombs were placed within the UrbanMech and warriors were birthed between its legs.
"And the Children of Kerensky said together, "Hail, Mother UrbanMech who begets our trueborn warriors as they should have been: Trashborn! They will cleanse the galaxy in holy dumpster fire!"
Selah.
You know, one of my biggest problems with Urbies is their lack of mobility…
Enjoy your trip and see you when you get back!
It is going to be one off until it sells well and I think we could see LAMs not as playable mech but as paint projects.
So CGL can try to attract people who like to paint minis but don't play a lot of games.
They made the urbie fast
I'm a LAM loving clannie, but it is not hard to admit that they are hard to incorporate well with the setting. It very much can and has been done, but i would rather not see it made cannon as some piss poor business decision. Bring them back in once large scale space-navy combat is normalized again, where they have a niche to carve out that's useful.
Urbanmech LAM... Even before you said it was one off, I was muttering "April is in three weeks". The LAM as is makes little sense, but we have the partial wing. A full fledged wing, a gerwalk, makes sense. Even a gerwalk/mech transitional. BUT, LAMs and those tracked Hell Horses abortions are canon. They're in too much of the lore. We're stuck with them. And Harmony Gold is welcome to try again- the copywrite case law has changed. This could bring Macross back to North America without bad fan subs of the Indonesian dub and torch Robotech.
They have made a meme a reality. Remeber folks this is proof to not let your memes be dreams
On the one hand, as much as I like my transforming robots, the UrbanLAM hurts my soul.
On the other hand, at least now in Air-Mech mode it can theoretically generate some half-decent defensive movement bonuses, right? :P
It's a couple of weeks early for an April First joke.
So it "transforms" by pointing it's guns "up" and firing off it's legs jump jets and it already has "wings" built into it's back. It doesn't really "transform" at all. It looks like Leader 1 ate a bit too much and got fat.
Was hoping for a moment that the Annihilator LAM was next
Wouldn't they have to add five or ten tons to the chassis to make the thing fly, though? That would quickly bump the Urbie into the Medium mech range, considering its already at the top of Light.
To be clear, this is a design I haven't seen spoken of since the days of Dropship Command 😮
So is that the "less Slow" speed that urbie speedometer means now?
I was more on board before you said it would be the first plastic LAM.
For a brief moment the thought of an Urbanmech LAM was highly concerning but it is funny.
I wouldn't mind plastics for the other ones but I do also agree that they don't entirely fit what Battletech became.
April is just around of corner!
It's only a matter of time until the quar-urbie