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KAREN JONES SINGS 'LORENA'. Red Dead Redemption 2
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- čas přidán 28. 05. 2019
- Red Dead Redemption 2. Arthur Morgan listens to Karen Jones at the campfire singing 'Lorena'.
The character of Karen Jones was underused by Rockstar. She had so much potential but was reduced to a bit part player and eventually a drunk.
Red Dead Redemption 2, In my opinion, is the best game I have played but they missed an opportunity.
We know the fate of every gang member apart from Karen. There is no grave, no death scene.
I think Rockstar could bring her back.
Written by Reverend Henry Webster in 1856. This song was popular with Confederate soldiers during the US Civil War
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Here is a link to Karen singing Poor Lonesome Cowboy.
• Karen Jones sings Poor...
After all, we know all characters' end except Karen Jones. This is so sad. Her sadness is making me sad. This game is so real. I will always miss her.
Hi Anil. I've a feeling she'll be back in RDR3.
@@BlueSamGames I hope so.
Supposedly its mentioned in a letter by Mary Beth that she dies after chapter 6 from all the hard drinking she did after Sean died.
@@BlueSamGames It's hinted in a letter by Tilly in the epilogue that she drank herself to death.
@@kupper123 poor karen.. well, in a way, that was for the best, she was so sad, she was suffering so much, she lost Sean, she was definitely broken
was walking by on a random night and heard her singing and i liked it so i just sat down and listened to the whole song. glad i ain’t the only one lmao. This game is AMAZING!
Hi Elijah. It sure is.
Wish Arthur complemented her singing in that moment. It was so beautiful and I enjoyed it so much.
Literally just watched her singing it while playing. Looked it up right after.
Same here! I love that song with Karen's voice singing it.
You ain't the only one!
@@marvinheemeyer6660 yeah even though it’s supposed to be her drunk version I actually like it. She doesn’t sound too bad. There’s something to be said for raw, stripped down delivery in singing when you can tell the singer means it as opposed to “produced” songs/singing.
*steps down from soapbox*
Just did that too, first time ever playing the game. Such a masterpiece.
Thought I was the only one that enjoyed just sitting down and listening to her sing
Hi Corey. She has got a unique sound.
There's Blues, Soul and country in there.
To my ears anyway. lol.
Im trying to figure out how to get it on mp3. Like u said its mixed with all types of singing
@@coreywaller Hi Corey. I think I can take the sound file from the original video and convert it to MP3. I could probably email it to you. I'll let you know tomorrow.
Did you find a way to extract it to mp3?
@@coreywaller Hi Corey. Yes I have it here.
I could email it to you.
I'm on Bluesamgames@gmail.com.
I miss when I sat by the camp with Karen at Horseshoe Overlook 😔
Hi. I liked her character. She should have played a bigger part in the story.
@@BlueSamGames i think half of the characters in camp were neglected in the story. And the fact we couldnt take them with us on our adventures was a mistake.
@@Scoffslaphead72 What a great idea. Imagine being able to control the other characters. You could use them for the more tedious missions such as collecting herbs and hunting multiple animals for the satchels.
@@BlueSamGames I personally would have omitted Micah and Sadie and probably sprinkled their experiences into the others. Felt they were poorly written.
@@IamFrozenUnderpants Hi. I think those characters were 'Overacted'. The poorest dialogue, for me, was in the Epilogues. Some of the writing was so lazy, I think they just couldn't wait to finish the game. The most useless or needless character was the Reverend.
This really made me feel sad, hearing this on my 5th playthrough for the first time. This game holds a special place in my heart. I come back to this song every now and then, reminds me of better times and a D&D character I play.
Same I’m on my 12th play-through.
Mathew R holy shit dude
Mathew R im on my 7th shit still immersive asf
Goodness. How do you guys manage to do more than a 2nd play through? I just finished my first and is already scared of doing a 2nd. More power to you.
I heard it for the first time in my second play throigh and it’s magical u can explore all the other mission forks that you never tried I love this game man
never heard it in my first playtrough. so it made me a lot happier to hear it on my second
Hi. Glad you found it. She is a good singer.
Same here.
I had to go through 16 playthrough’s before I could hear it, your lucky 😂😂😂
I heard it in my third playthrough.
The raw sorrow of this song made me stop what I was doing and sit next to her while she sang. Only took four playthroughs to hear this great performance.
It's funny, cause I was about to talk to Lenny, I think, about the job we did when we stole that wagon full of guns. I was gonna talk to him, then go to bed to do the next mission. As I'm going over to my bed, I hear her singing. I walked over to her, watching her sit alone and sing this song. I sit down across from her, just listening to her sing. I thought to myself "Damn, I wonder if the voice actress was asked to sing this song or they caught her singing this song randomly and asked her to sing it again, but in full mocap gear?" Cause I was really blown away when I first heard it, since I've never heard her sing alone before.
Hi Mark. I could listen to her all night. I'd like to hear her sing more solo songs. Maybe 'Amazing Grace' or 'Peace in the Valley'. There are loads of good songs she could do.
Thanks for the comment. Stay safe.
this breaks my heart, you can feel the sadness in her voice i was taken aback when i heard her singing i sat down and listened to the entire thing. im really glad i caught this moment, i love karen, it makes me sad that we never get to know what happened to her, i hope shes at peace wherever she is. this game is so full of heart i cant help but be emotional at moments like these i appreciate every little thing i caught in the camp all the little glimpses of these characters meant a lot to me
Hi. I've a feeling she'll come back in RDR3. Rockstar didn't kill her off like some of the gang. She just disappeared.
bro it crushed me seeing her sing this at shady belle. hope she didn’t suffer too much whenever she ended up
Hi Ty. It is an emotional scene. I like to think she sobered up and became a singer or dancer or maybe an actress.
@BlueSamGames Year late, but it's implied in a letter by Tilly in the epilogue that she drunk herself to death
I heard her voice the first time just now and was mesmerized. She’s such a good singer damn.
During the scene where her and the girls go to town and they sing, they had to tell Karen to "stop singing so well", she has a beautiful voice
I literally cried at that scene.
I had listened a couple times but this one hit me so hard 'cause I realized while she was singing how everything in that history will end:
Just a lonely boy with hunger of revenge for his father' s death.
The history is too much ironic.
Hi Enzo. Well said.
My mother’s name is Lorena. I never heard her name in any form of media until this game. It was nice.
This song has always been a favorite of mine to sing at the campfire while at reenactments. Hearing it in the game filled me with a warm fuzzy feeling.
Hi. I heard it was liked by both sides during the Civil War.
@@BlueSamGames It was!
I always took her to having the sweetest voice in the game
Specially when she says:: welcome back there Arthur
In my playthrough, Karen woke up in the middle of the night and went and sat by the campfire right next to Arthur and started singing, a very beautiful yet sad scene, my 2 favorite characters and both had sad endings. Awesone game and awesone vid👍
Hi. That sounds like a great scene. I think Arthur feels a bond with Karen.
Glad you liked the Video.
Stay safe.
Playing it for the first time (about 40% through) and came across her singing it from the start...was heading to my tent and heard her voice in the near distance...sat across from her and listened to the whole thing.... completely enthralled the entire time and it's moments like that in games that make them truly special...wasn't a cut scene, had nothing to do with the story yet it'll be something I'll always remember dearly....even Karen says it best after singing...."Hell of a song, that one." That moment made her one of my favorites in the entire game.
Also, I see that some people didn't see it until another playthrough, I feel lucky that I saw it the first time around.
Beautiful Civil War song
It is?
@@MothProGamer It’s from before the civil war, but it was incredibly popular with the men in the camps (especially on the southern side) as it reminded them of their wives back home.
@@etowahwillis902 ow :c
One of my favorite random happenings in the whole game. Such a beautiful moment.
Hi. Easily the best song in the game.
Just started another playthrough of this and heard her singing it by the fire at Horseshoe Overlook by herself, had to come and listen as i dont remember it on my first playthrough. Really affected me, heh. Though she said something different on mine when she finished. I was playing in 1st person and she sort of looked at Arthur smiling slightly, sadly and said ''My favorite song.'' Then just fell silent and stared into the campfire.
Jesus Christ this game is fucking fantastic.
I heard her singing it one time in my 4th play through and was surprised, was already sitting down as she came and started singing and sat through the entire thing, calmed me down as I was a bit stressed
I miss that part of my childhood, my neighbor used to sing songs like that , a capella. Her voice was so beautiful! When I listened to Karen , just brought my memories of that.
Hi. What a wonderful memory of your childhood. I envy you.
I can't say I specifically remember anyone singing from my childhood. How crazy is that?
This game broke my heart and it took me a long time to start it again. I caught this moment recently and I did exactly what you did. That moment when she paused, I also tried to talk to her. I think it takes at least one playthrough to really appreciate the NPCs in this game. Knowing (or not really knowing) how Karen ends her story makes this moment bittersweet. This moment is poignant because it's shortly after, that the trigger to her rapid decline (Sean) begins.
Hi Daniel. Yes I agree.
The plot lines running through this game are worthy of a movie.
What an incredible game!
Yes it is. Thanks for the comment.
It's such a massive and detailed game.
Hope God eased your path as you went by Karen. Hopefully by grace. Greatest game of all time
My favorite thing about this game is every time I start playing and just wander around, something special and surprising happens. And it always feels natural and random, and like there’s some story behind it even if the game doesn’t explore that story. That’s what this moment was for me. I heard her voice from across the camp, followed it to the campfire where she was singing alone and I sat with her until she finished singing. I can only make out some of the lyrics but it sounds like there’s a lot of pain and longing behind it. And I want to hear it with a full band behind her voice.
I was sitting on the log right beside Karen the first time I heard this song
Me too, it really moved me, Karen is my favorite RDR2 character.
@@selfmadewidow3474 Ya, it was of my favorite moments of the game for sure
Hi everybody. I hope you are all safe and well.
Here is a link to a video of Karen singing Poor Lonesome Cowboy:
czcams.com/video/3rrTeDyvSh4/video.html
John proposes to Abigail. czcams.com/video/q7e7w55EDeM/video.html
Just discovered this yesterday and I just sat and listened to her sing lol I love it
First heard of this song in So Weird. Caught me by surprise when she started singing it here. It's just so . . . so weird.
Hi Jason. It's so weird that I never heard of So Weird.
Do you know where I can find this version? I Googled it but couldn't see the song.
It's just .....you know.....so weird.
@@BlueSamGames So Weird is an 80's TV show on the Disney Channel. It is currently on Disney +. The song is sung by MacKenzie Phillips (though she does not sing the full song in the episode)
@@jasonmiller3543 Thanks
Legends has it that he still reads comments to this day
Lovely voice. I think I like this version best.
I was sitting on the log beside Karen the first time I heard this. It was epic to say the least
Hi Hammond. Sat next to her while she is singing. That sounds cool.
I think this scene is one of the most memorable in the game.
@@BlueSamGames To say I was moved would be an understatement. Thanks for the upload
My health wasnt so great that day. Thought this would be an awesome song to die to
To this very day I relish in the memory of riding into camp and sitting beside Karen
I've worked at a biker bar for over twelve years now, and there is a chance I could beat Arthur in a fist fight
Saving this to my playlist
i just heard her singing in my playthrough a moments ago and i've run to search on youtube if she had sang more songs lol
Hi. This is the only 'Solo' song I have seen her sing. She sings other songs with various gang members.
The voice actor and motion capture actress did an amazing job of bringing karen alive
Seen this game played so many times, but im finally getting to play it myself, this scene got me deep in the feels, sat and listed to the whole thing thank you for this
I’m 50 years old. I’ve played RDR2 since the hour of release, and never heard this song, in ANY form or media, until yesterday, when I heard it in a documentary about the Confederates marching to it as they fled Atlanta.
Today, I fire up RDR2 and hear Karen singing it by the fire, after 3.5 years about easily 2000+ hours of playing this game.
What are the odds?
Such a beautiful moment in the game, then Arthur "Hi Karen, You keepin out of mischief?" 😅
I literally just heard this song right now and liked it so much I had to see if it was recorded so I could just listen to it while I am away from my console. It is a beautiful song. I’d even go as far as saying Karen singing it is my favorite version. Thank you for this, I greatly appreciate it.
The sad part about this is right after this song, I walked away from the campfire then heard Lenny tell his story. It went from sad to “damn”
Hi. Yes it is a beautiful song. It is sung well with true feeling.
Just another little gem in a masterpiece of a game.
@@BlueSamGames agreed
I was listening to this song sitting next to Karen and In the middle of it Micah says to get up and do something instead of sitting around
"it matters little now Lorena, the past... the eternal past"
Turns out Karen is my kind gal. I always thought she was pretty. If you pay attention. damn. Just want the pretty lady t be happy. One of the best voice actors. I believe she's as drunk as I am. Maybe it's just case I thinks she's actually talk t me
one night i came to the camp and karen was singing this song and i sat down and listened to her for an hour straight
First time I heard Karen singing this by the fire I was mesmerized then Uncle and Sean had to ruin it by being all loud and drunk singing that dumb “keyhole in the door” song so had to look this up to listen to it in peace. Thanks for posting!
I was walking on the camp try sort out some stuff and heard her sing, i stop everything i did and just sat down and listen to her, i got a crush on her after that
Bro why am I crying right now lmfao
I always loved her singing
Hi Matthew. She does have a good voice. This is her best song in the game.
Heard this when using the camp ledger. Stayed for the whole song.
Hi Anthony. It is a special moment in the game.
I can't think of a similar scene with any of the gang members.
Theres 2 versions of the song for whether she's drunk or not
Hi. I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
her singing is so soothing
Hi Bruce. She has a great voice.
She sounds so sad. Terrific performance.
Idk what it is, but I too literally stopped in my tracks and sat to listen. It was soothing but sad at the same time 😔
I was playing on my 3rd playthrough and I herd her singing randomly in camp I listened to the whole thing, and after that I turn the game off and watched the Civil War by Ken Burns lol
Love the intro
Wow, that's really beautiful and poignant, I've never heard that before...I'm still in Chapter 2 in my current playthrough, I'll be on the lookout for this for sure!
I heard all the songs she can sing but I just learned the name of this onr
Hi Rune. I think it's the best song in the game.
She seems to really put her heart into it.
I wish Arthur and Karen were closer in the game, like in more companion activities and missions. In some ways Arthur and Karen were soul mates.
Hi Jules. She does seem to have a closer bond with Arthur than with other men in the gang. Her relationship with Sean is different of course.
It would have been good to see her take part in more mission.
I made a video of the Valentine bank robbery which focuses on Karen's role.
This is the link if you're interested: czcams.com/video/kDKam6OQf_0/video.html
@@BlueSamGames I meant platonically, like siblings in arms but moreso than the other strongmen of the gang.
It's almost as if the game wants you to hear her sing this.... Almost impossible to miss... The actress who plays Karen, Jo Arminoux had to learn this song for her role as Karen.
Hi Neil. Yes, there is no other scene in the whole game which compares to this one.
i named my horse lorena
It is crazy, if you give every part of the game an actual try and experiment and explore you can find alot of new things oj multiple playthroughs
Hi Fernando. It is a massive game. Even if you achieve 100% there is still more to do and discover.
I remember when I heard it she said or what I assume she was going to say since I greeted her too fast, “That’s one of my favorites.”
HI. Yes she does say that.
@@BlueSamGames oh okay, and hello 👋
The only KAREN that i love!
0:09
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@@BlueSamGames 2 things 1 I'm suprised you had replied to me most youtubers don't reply to comments and 2 this was just a timestamp to when karen starts singing
@@monsters691 Hi. I knew it was a time stamp but I thought you were referring to something unusual in the video and I didn't know what.
I try to reply to all comments. If I understand them. lol. Stay safe.
i was so pissed when i accidently sleep when she was singing
This song makes me so depressed for Henry D.L. Webster and Ella Blocksom!
Weirdly her voice sounds sadder than when l first heard it.
Anyone else starting to tear up?
The first time I encountered this in my game was the morning after the party the gang has after saving Sean. She was sitting by the tree overlooking the valley as the sun rose. It reminded me of the times I’d be at a party with my friends and the last handful of us up would watch the sun come up, and just have those real, deep conversations.
Great Memories.
Third playthrough and I walk into camp one night about to head to Pearson and I hear this singing for the first time and it was so nice and sad. I watched Arthur watch Karen do the whole song. At the end Karen said 'what no standing ovation?" Lol. I already really liked her but now I do even more so. I'm sad for her ending.
Well we don't know, for sure, what happened to Karen. Maybe she'll come back in RDR3?
Well it’s been a few days now since that whole mess... since that boy Kieran... I don’t think I’ve seen so many bodies and blood since what happened with Sean a while back in Rhodes. Many agree that we should hurry mans move camp but Dutch is adamant we keep our attention on the Saint Denis bank. It seems that no matter how far we travel death is never far behind. I fear for whom the reaper might next take. Me, Bill, Hosea, or God forbid one of the women. Speaking of the women Ms Jones in particular seems worse for ware. Last night by the fire I found myself simply mesmerized by a song she was singing, I swear I’ve heard it before somewhere but I could not recall the name. I didn’t ask Her what it was as it seemed like she needed space, needed time. I get the feelin she was growin rather fond of Kieran or perhaps she still sorrows for Sean. Or perhaps I’m just a Damm fool grasping at straws. After what happened and the brutality of it all I reckon we could all use a bit of time.
HI. That is an interesting take on Arthurs thought process.
He cared about Karen. What do you think happened to her?
BlueSamGames well in the epilogue you can get a letter from Tilly that implies Karen drank herself to death.
@@jwall1646 I had heard that.
I wonder why all the other characters who died, excluding Micah, have a grave. Karen's has not been found.
It's probably an oversight by Rockstar.
BlueSamGames I would love it if she came back or is just mentioned in some single player dlc but Knowing rockstar that’ll never happen.
@@jwall1646 I think they have deliberately left the door open.
In the Epilogue, Sadie and John talk about how the Reverend Swanson 'cleaned up his act' and went on to lead a church in New York.
Even Mrs Downes changed professions and went on to own a Golf Course.
These are two examples of 'Redemption'.
There's no reason why Karen could not 'Clean up' her act.
I love when Javier plays the guitar
Hi Mike. Yes there are some good guitar tunes played by Javier.
1:20
LOL her voice is cracking🤣🤣🤣
Hi. She does put a lot of emotion into it. Top quality singing.
i really liked her character... she only wanted to be more like a normal girl and even i think sean was not the right guy for her, i felt so sorry for her that he died... poor karen, its so sad that we dont know for sure what happened with her at the end... 😞
Hi. I think she could still be in the game, in the Epilogue.
She was a good singer and loved to dance. Maybe she became an entertainer.
Just my theory.
I just heard her singing Then I looked it up I felt sad
Hi. Yes it is a sad song.
This happened at the Rhodes camp for me
so pretty😿❤
Karen was one of my favourite characters..
Mine Too. She should have had more scenes.
“Revenge is a fools game”
I wonder if the game engine even allows you to not sit at the campfire when you hear Karen singing this. I have to admit I've never tried to just walk past.
WR+KJ=❤️
This is so sad...i hope she survived it all and moved to Mexico. She is my favorite .
Hi. I don't think she's dead. There was no death scene for her and there is no grave site.
Her character was too big to just fade away. I think we will see her again.
Mexico sounds good.
@@BlueSamGames i know we will see her again👍
I know im late but when you play as john you get to meet tilly and she says that the bottle got to karen meening she died by drinking its sad 😔
@@darthsidious1528 Tilly did not say Karen died from the hooch she said she THINKS Karen drunk herself to death, just an assumption not a fact, just cause Tilly thinks Karen died does not make it canon. Sadly Karen is probably dead but not necessarily from drinking directly.
My favorite side character is always Karen. Tragic story.
NPC gold right there
For me best moment in game. Made me sad. After that never antagonist Karan again.
Hi. Yes, it is a stand out moment in the game.
The lyrics represent the story if you dont know
Its possible that the heroine of RDr3 is Karen.
Hi Jay. That is a great idea.
Fun fact, this is karen singing this while drunk. There is also a version of her not drunk singing this. Do a CZcams search you can find a recording
I tried listening to her but then a different member of the group sang some random song and miss grim kept comming up to me with messages about something and I'm sitting here like Y'ALL SHUT UP I'M TRYING TO LISTEN TO KAREN 😡
I know that feeling. Sometimes I feel like saying 'Will you F*** **f and leave me alone'. Especially when it's The Reverend.
An the only 1 who sat down next t’her and cracked some Gin? And Javier? Chop some wood, feed Nags, take Maize t’Pearson and sit down and have a ciggy round camp fire and listen t’em sing 🥰🥰🥰
Hi. I think it's right, to do what you do. Getting immersed in the game is the best way to play it.
I talk to players who have just blasted their way through the Story mode and say they've finished the game.
They have no idea about some of the things you can do and see.
whatever happened to Miss Jones? fuck i'd love to know if she made it
Hi. I think Rockstar have left Karen's story open. There is no grave and no definite word of where she went to. Tilly does say she thinks alcohol finished her off but there is no proof of that.
She liked to sing and dance. I think she'll come back as an entertainer.
@@BlueSamGames i'd like to think she made it out of her sorrow and demon that is alcohol, she was always a strong woman, if they make a rdr3 i hope we get some sort of confirmation or life sign from her atleast, or maybe rockstar intends her fate to be a mystery forever, not even the gangmembers know maybe shit went down
I always liked the Harlot
Hi. Me too. She's a 'Trollop'. According to Molly O'Shea. lol
What if Karen's real name is Lorena and the song is about herself. Just saying thats what I think
Toy story 2???😂
Sucks that she disappeared without a trace
Hi. I think Rockstar have left the door open for a return.
Karen doesn't have a grave. There was no death scene. Just one sentence from Tilly Jackson saying that she thought the booze had killed her.
@@BlueSamGames yep, let's hope so!
She should stick to other things than singing xD
I was playing with the dog companion mod installed and Karen started singing this so I sat down and my dog sat in the fire and burnt
Hi Tom. Excellent. I would love to have seen that.