Bruce Lee also admired Western Fencing movement. Vasyl Lomachenko fights with a dominant lead hand, he uses traps and pulls to control his opponent. Very technical
Kind of. He mostly uses footwork and punch speed with accuracy. It's not traps, it's just him having a high fight iq being multiple steps ahead of his opponents. The base is footwork not traps and bullshido.
@@mrarivv0007 Lomachenko definitely sets trap, especially when moving off angle and making his opponents follow him. If you think that’s just bulshido I’m talking bout then u might wanna redifune your definition of boxing traps.
@@mrarivv0007Duran uses trapping, I suppose he's a bullshido artist too 😂 I love these guys, constant target practice, keep spreading your dearth of knowledge, it's good for us
Im in Thailand right now learning Muay Thai and my Kru (coach) is an ex champion here. he just tought me something very similar today. The front foot remains flat, you dont move the back foot but it goes up on the ball and you step diagonally forward THEN punch without over twisting the back leg while at the same time thrusting the hips. The result is alot more force with less energy expended. very effective and you can feel it when you get it right!
Although not explaining to punch THROUGH the target with bad intentions this is a good demonstration of a bodyweight jab or falling jolt whatever you want to call it . He has explained and demonstrated the mechanics really well but always no matter what punch you throw punch THROUGH ! The target and aim to do damage . Good video
Keith, the reason I mentioned this in the other video is because it is one of the ways I have have been taught to generate power in TWC, the difference was the term "settle" was used vs "fall" or "sink". Also, if can roll punch, it kinda works this way. Lead foot hits at the same time as lead hand, trail hand strikes as trail foot lands with your forward movement. Tbh this, heun sau, and a few other things are what made me relate to TWC as my first Martial art was fencing (heun sau is how one can move your blade to a riposte and attack from the "outside" if your "inside" attack is stopped.)
I enjoyed your video and I think overall it was a good breakdown. I do have one criticism though: I have to staunchly disagree with how you end the movement. If you land heel first and deliver the punch as the foot rolls forward onto the ball, you lose the benefits of the "straight jolt" turning it into a stiff Jab. The fist MUST land before the foot to deliver all the energy into the target. If you land on the heel and roll forward, you dissipate much of that energy into the ground. That is why Jack mentions the loud crash of the foot against the canvas of a missed straight jolt. The foot slams down hard. You don't hear that when the punch lands because the energy is transferred from the fist to the target before the foot lands. The analogy of the fencer is good and correct but the fencer doesn't require much power to pierce his opponent with a rapier, he just needs to cover the distance in such a way as to fully extend the thrust of his arm, skewering his adversary. Two very different applications of force. I welcome your feedback.
I see it bit differently. It is not a fencing thrust. Look at Dempsey's analogy of the kid sledding down the hill. When you lift the lead leg to step forward your weight is dropping just like the kid descending the hill on his sled. When your lead foot contacts the ground that downward dropping momentum is suddenly shot forward straight out in front as the punch. This is the kid reaching the bottom of the hill and level ground and shooting forward. You can do a "falling step" from close range. Dempsey talks about making this dynamic a part of punches other than the straight lead. Obviously this wouldn't work if you are thinking of it like a fencing thrust where the tip of the foil (fist) must contact before the foot hits the ground. You can even use a "falling step" in close without stepping! You simply drop your weight and then redirect the momentum forward sharply without even lifting the front foot.
kmyers3770 You just essentially made my argument for me. With the exception of the foot landing first, you say the same thing as me. As for the fist landing before the foot in order to transfer the maximum amount of energy... Well, that's just physics. If math isn't your thing, no problem. Jack Dempsey himself states the very same thing in his book.
ye man he says to land the hit before your foot lands. its using the force of gravity to add power to your punch. gravity wouldn't play as much of a part if your foot lands before you hit.
N2tao its ever so slightly roll..its like a loaded spring...it might be his variation..but end result is the same..I'm glad u mentioned it..think of it as A pivot : one motion ...to deliver your punch at the desired angle for max speed n power...⚡💨
When you hit your lead leg should be literally off the ground. Watch Tyson his school of boxing was closely related to Dempsey, it’s a shuffle step as well meaning lead leg can change. But this is not the Dempsey falling step on the vid it’s certainly good Jkd mechanics. The idea is your literally falling and catch yourself with the person’s body not with your foot. It’s why Tyson started square because depending on what punch he through he would lift the same leg falling forward and not planting til after impact if you miss you catch yourself with your foot in a wide and low stance which gives your gate a natural bob and a wide stance is ideal for turning punches where pivoting the feet along with the core creates massive power and the rear leg will be pulled off the ground watch Conor mcgregor for this strike... the rear leg lifting allows you to square. You can also use the falling step side to side right hook lifts left leg falling left. A wide stance also allows you as is shown well in jkd good mobility but Tyson and Dempsey were very much off balance during there punches which is why they had to punch from either leg.
You comment is good. I too though that he wasn't moving in a Dempsey way, but a JKD way. In the end of the day, movement is just movement, but if he wants to explain an established concept he should do it according to the original source first and not using his personal bias to modify it.
Get in your fighting stance, lean forward, using your front leg, spring forward. Executed correctly, 80% of your bodyweight is dumped into the target. Think of it like a dive into a pool. Similar to Muay Thai superman punch.
I knew Bruce loved boxing, I had no idea it was all Jack Dempsey until I saw the look of the strikes, stance, and movement in this video. Wow! Awesome!
I wouldn't say it was "all Jack Dempsey"! ;-) Bruce was inspired by/influenced by several of the old boxers via the books and fight footage they left behind. Another important one was Jim Driscoll, who wrote several books. One of them was all about how to use the lead hand punch!
Great description of what the champ wrote about the trigger step in the beginning of the video. The only problem with your demonstration is its obvious you are shifting your weight to, and pushing off your rear foot.
Iron Fist Wing Chun Boxing taking the step with the body weight on the lead foot causes you to immeadiately FALL. hence falling step. Try it with your back foot off the ground so you cant cheat. Youll know u got it when your lead foot makes a loud slap when it lands.
@@eb2894 Correct. Dempsey talks about the back foot simply being there to save you from falling off balance. All the weight should be into that front foot. What I like to do in sparring (haven't used it in an actual bout yet) is to feint the left jab and at the same time shift my weight forward into the left foot. THEN I come with the Jolt.
Sunday 26th May 2024. 07.59am. Dear Sir. Good-morning. How are you? I sincerely hope you are well. I love the way, you explained 'the falling step'. I cannot thank you enough, for what you have done for me. I only hope I so the falling step justice and pay particular attention to my movement and technique. You deserve an applause. 👏 Dill Smith (trainer) say's 'big up' All the best. The Bull Of Lewisham. 🦬
agree with SLIM SHADY rear leg on ball acts as a spring then after punch delivered rear leg drawn forward to execute next DROP STEP -SIDE SLIP -FIST or any combination in SAM NESS' PEEK-A-BOO COMBINATIONS credit CUS D'AMATO ...MIKE TYSON little man knocks out big me
Good shift of weight, but the technique shows a wide open line to the jaw... and that jump launch from the back foot makes you lead with the head, may pose risks for check-counters or side-step-counters.
🤣 naa he explained it well though mate I've seen some right shit demonstrations of stepping into your jabs and he showed it better than most of the other mugs
Not the drop step you have to land the punch nearly extended just before the lead foot touches the ground again and this has to be timed with the right distance so that your arm doesn't collapse from landing too late but also so that the entire "jolt" is through by still not positioning the foot too far back and pulling back on the momentum. The way I was taught was with a rag and at first I was told to intentional exaggerate the step, almost like jumping and then hitting before I would land. Then you just tighten everything up. And Dempsey would twist his lead foot when he was doing a whirl, sort of have to in order to put the line of attack adjacent tangent (90) from the core of the target which is where the most power can be absorbed. And it's really hard to implement this on a heavy bag, you can, but you have to modify like Tyson did (that's not the only reason he had to modify it, boxers were different creatures by the time Tyson came along). Dempsey was so good at this because he probably spent more time fighting real opponents when he was young than he did training on equipment. Bruce Lee did study Dempsey, but felt that his punches would telegraph too much, so he cut the process in half essentially striking a balance between the some of the forward momentum in the drop step and the ability to counter quickly by shifting which required the front foot to be planted. That's what you're doing. Probably is more practical in a street fight, but Lee also never really considered the figure eight that Dempsey incorporated into his punches, similar to how Benny Urquidez developed his movement to meld with combinations and vice versa. The problem with Lee is he was about spending an inordinate amount of time in training through the progression a student takes only to return to mastering the fundamentals and continuing to refine them in order to be prepared for any opponent. That's just unrealistic for most people; he never understood 'good enough' and even if he would acknowledge the practicality behind such a notion, would still reject it on the basis of the spiritual aspect martial arts had in his life. Lee tried to teach people how to live their lives, Dempsey tried to teach how to survive several minutes in a physical confrontation, though he did consider for his own purposes and the sport the benefits that boxing could have in developing character and discipline.
Yes. Dempsey explains this in his book. The jab uses the shoulders to deliver power and the fist lands turned down parallel to the floor. The power of the shoulder swivelling lands the blow. The straight punch uses the whole body for the power and in particular the falling step puts the weight of whole body into the punch. The fist lands upright and just the last three knuckles are used because they are a straight conduit of the body weight. The punch should land before the lead step lands on floor to ensure whole body weight is delivered through the fist.
Brandon Rios used that shot alot..most effectively Vs Anthony Peterson,MIguel Acosta and Mike Alvarado(second fight)..actually hurting his opponents.Also Sergey Kovalev & Miguel Bertchelt have the jolt in their arsenal.
During training, Bruce Lee would stand at a long distance from his student. He would ask him, "do you feel safe?" right before he lunges in and hits him. 😂
I am a Tae Kwon Do instructor. Have taught “Old School” TKD as well as boxing for almost 40 years. This is bad instruction. Flat footed and basically leading with the face. An even distribution of weight on the balls of the feet, mostly, and learning from a good boxing instructor would help this person. Unfortunately too many martial arts instructors think they can box without ever having studied under a qualified coach. I was one of them as well! Get humble, and get to a boxing gym.
@@kingalpha8389 Natural order being what? FATHER MOST HIGH GOD/YAHUAH/YAHUSHUA JESUS/YESHUA/LIVING WORD Man Animal Plant Ect.. Ps. Dont be so primal and act like you (got some sense) can access that frontal lobe unless you have a dry sense of humor and I missed it.. :-)
@@PLONG12345 The technique might be old, but the book from which it's from was first published in 1950. So people had time to test around this concept.
erst den schritt zu machen und dann zu schlagen ist doch kein falling step, nicht umsonst heisst es, nur der tor rennt seinem schlag bevor, so ist das ganze unsinn
you have to literally fall into the punch. the back foot is like the kickstand. It's not a punch i would start off with in a real fight. but if you are going round, and then have the chance to land this punch should be a KO punch.
I must warn people who wants to use jolt... you can do it sometimes but you have to understand , you put your back in danger, back muscle are not made for rotations
I would have to disagree on the balance aspect of this technique. Idk if its the actual technique or the way it was demonstrated in this video. Also, you're talking "long range" but it definitely compromises speed; looks like a really predictable punch.
Marco Angelo Torres it’s the way he does it, I’m 22-1-1 as an amateur and this is my go to jab, highly effect if you do it properly, but high risk because you sacrifice the ability to counter if your opponent times your step.
The irony is Dempsey's theory on proper punching technique was close to wing chun; his concept of the power line...landing with the ring finger knuckle is also foundational in wc. The major difference is where the force comes from and the angle of the knuckle.
I don't know anything about Wing Chun or any other martial art, but this is a good explanation of the falling step and jolt. This isn't taught in any boxing gym I've ever trained in. I started incorporating it a few years back. If nothing else, using the Jolt will disrupt the opponent's offense.
back heel is turned in the wrong direction. called a jab shuffle or jab step. knee should be towards your op. when knee is turned out it vulnerable to a kick or knee and reduces the length of your lunge. Keep weight on the balls of the feet, balance with your heels. your close....
This is incorrect as the fist must contact the mitt prior to the foot stepping down. Otherwise the power is lost in the ground. Don't feel bad because 98 % of people don't get this punch right. But Bruce Lee certainly did!
who is the guy thart telling for punches?a heavyweight champion maybe?bcuse if not then its a shame to show people bad moves that can lead them to death lol....
It's much better to have your weight on the back foot with your lead hip up higher then the back hip. Step in hard with the jab, front foot and body weight all at once. Never just ''fall in'' because you're coming up off the back foot which means if/when you get countered you're stuck there with your legs splayed out and can't move, all you can do is hope to grab for safety. You need to 1) push in, off the back foot with the jab, 2) If jab lands throw a second jab while pushing out/away off the front foot and always with your knees bent so you're low on the way out with your hands up ready to punch or defend. Philly power jab.
How do you know? The fist should land before the front foot, the back is there to kind of steady your balance. But if you are fighting, landing a few then pow..throw this punch...at least my hand..will break the other person's face
Vinny DiLorenzo his face isn’t guarded, he drops his arms when he strikes, leaving him completely open, he isn’t fast enough, and looks at his hands instead of his opponents eyes, wing Chun is not applicable, it’s weak. For the same reason you never quite see Bruce lee, using it in his movies, he sticks to the kicks and punches of TKD, boxing, and grappling of judo. I can tell he’s an amateur just by looking at his demo. It’s sloppy, looking like he started at a very late age, and didn’t train enough.
The way you are doing this is completely wrong. You are letting your foot touch the ground before your hand hits. Then your weight goes into the ground not the opponent. Your hand should be on the target before your foot lands. No disrespect meant here.
YALL ARE BEHIND MAN. AS A BOXER IV BEEN DOING THIS PUNCH FOR YEARS. ITS CALLED A POWER JAB. AND YOU ARE DOING THE MOST UNCOMFORTABLE VERSION OF IT. THERES A BETTER WAY TO DO IT FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT ANGLES.
@@boxing.ascetic Maybe i will someday if i can get atleast 100K followers and monetize my channel. until then i dont even think i have a dozen followers.
I think you are fooling yourself. To get that lead leg to move forward fast, the rear leg has to push somewhat. Test it again. Forget the darn dogma and try it both ways. I dare you to throw a good step jab with no weight or push on your rear leg as you suggest here.
This guy is doing it wrong, using the right words to an extent but his form is terrible. Let me break it down. When all of your weight is on that front foot. You then let that front foot give, you lift it up ever so slightly. When that happens you feel the tension in the ball of your back foot and it will propel you forward, or push you forward. Your level will change when that happens, so as your moving forward you are also falling down. When done correctly you actually hit your target before that front foot touches and your head will be in a lower place then it was before. Almost like a lunge. In theory all of the weight and force is supposed to land on your target giving you maximum power. The key and trick to this is understanding range and leverage to truly maximize this. The closer your stance is the better actually, gives you more time to land the punch. Although the faster you let the leg give out and allow your weight to fall forward the more powerful the lunge becomes, the faster the punch becomes, which then translates into a more powerful punch cover a greater distance.
It truly bothers me how poorly this man is using his back leg. Completely destroys the purpose of this punch. The fact that it’s pointing out and not in clearly demonstrates how he has no idea what the fuck he is doing.
no disrespect to IFWCB...greatful for the discussion and using my own mind and JACK DEMPSEY & SAM NESS BOOK to self tutor...not so easy to execute fist off falling step
U are pulling the hand back before striking as well... Stop doing that, It may take months to practice to get it,but don't draw your hand back.. And ,that long range lunge punch,is not nor was it ever meant to use like that,it probably you have that distanc e,run the othe r way,,it's demo ,carnival exhibition purpose...
Bruce Lee also admired Western Fencing movement. Vasyl Lomachenko fights with a dominant lead hand, he uses traps and pulls to control his opponent. Very technical
Kind of. He mostly uses footwork and punch speed with accuracy. It's not traps, it's just him having a high fight iq being multiple steps ahead of his opponents. The base is footwork not traps and bullshido.
@@mrarivv0007 Lomachenko definitely sets trap, especially when moving off angle and making his opponents follow him. If you think that’s just bulshido I’m talking bout then u might wanna redifune your definition of boxing traps.
@@mrarivv0007 being multiple steps ahead and having a fight iq is what he uses to set said traps.
@@mrarivv0007Duran uses trapping, I suppose he's a bullshido artist too 😂
I love these guys, constant target practice, keep spreading your dearth of knowledge, it's good for us
@@ThepurposeofTime u know nothing 🧠🥜
Im in Thailand right now learning Muay Thai and my Kru (coach) is an ex champion here. he just tought me something very similar today. The front foot remains flat, you dont move the back foot but it goes up on the ball and you step diagonally forward THEN punch without over twisting the back leg while at the same time thrusting the hips. The result is alot more force with less energy expended. very effective and you can feel it when you get it right!
I know yall stopped making videos but thanks for your service🙏🏾
Although not explaining to punch THROUGH the target with bad intentions this is a good demonstration of a bodyweight jab or falling jolt whatever you want to call it . He has explained and demonstrated the mechanics really well but always no matter what punch you throw punch THROUGH ! The target and aim to do damage . Good video
Keith, the reason I mentioned this in the other video is because it is one of the ways I have have been taught to generate power in TWC, the difference was the term "settle" was used vs "fall" or "sink". Also, if can roll punch, it kinda works this way. Lead foot hits at the same time as lead hand, trail hand strikes as trail foot lands with your forward movement.
Tbh this, heun sau, and a few other things are what made me relate to TWC as my first Martial art was fencing (heun sau is how one can move your blade to a riposte and attack from the "outside" if your "inside" attack is stopped.)
Short, helpful and awesome little video!
You gentlemen are an awesome duo . And I appreciate the knowledge you have shared. Thank you and I await your next video.
I enjoyed your video and I think overall it was a good breakdown. I do have one criticism though: I have to staunchly disagree with how you end the movement. If you land heel first and deliver the punch as the foot rolls forward onto the ball, you lose the benefits of the "straight jolt" turning it into a stiff Jab. The fist MUST land before the foot to deliver all the energy into the target. If you land on the heel and roll forward, you dissipate much of that energy into the ground. That is why Jack mentions the loud crash of the foot against the canvas of a missed straight jolt. The foot slams down hard. You don't hear that when the punch lands because the energy is transferred from the fist to the target before the foot lands. The analogy of the fencer is good and correct but the fencer doesn't require much power to pierce his opponent with a rapier, he just needs to cover the distance in such a way as to fully extend the thrust of his arm, skewering his adversary. Two very different applications of force.
I welcome your feedback.
I see it bit differently. It is not a fencing thrust. Look at Dempsey's analogy of the kid sledding down the hill. When you lift the lead leg to step forward your weight is dropping just like the kid descending the hill on his sled. When your lead foot contacts the ground that downward dropping momentum is suddenly shot forward straight out in front as the punch. This is the kid reaching the bottom of the hill and level ground and shooting forward. You can do a "falling step" from close range. Dempsey talks about making this dynamic a part of punches other than the straight lead. Obviously this wouldn't work if you are thinking of it like a fencing thrust where the tip of the foil (fist) must contact before the foot hits the ground. You can even use a "falling step" in close without stepping! You simply drop your weight and then redirect the momentum forward sharply without even lifting the front foot.
kmyers3770 You just essentially made my argument for me. With the exception of the foot landing first, you say the same thing as me.
As for the fist landing before the foot in order to transfer the maximum amount of energy... Well, that's just physics. If math isn't your thing, no problem. Jack Dempsey himself states the very same thing in his book.
ye man he says to land the hit before your foot lands. its using the force of gravity to add power to your punch. gravity wouldn't play as much of a part if your foot lands before you hit.
N2tao its ever so slightly roll..its like a loaded spring...it might be his variation..but end result is the same..I'm glad u mentioned it..think of it as
A pivot : one motion ...to deliver your punch at the desired angle for max speed n power...⚡💨
david barton tell her David maybe u could explain to her...
When you hit your lead leg should be literally off the ground. Watch Tyson his school of boxing was closely related to Dempsey, it’s a shuffle step as well meaning lead leg can change. But this is not the Dempsey falling step on the vid it’s certainly good Jkd mechanics. The idea is your literally falling and catch yourself with the person’s body not with your foot. It’s why Tyson started square because depending on what punch he through he would lift the same leg falling forward and not planting til after impact if you miss you catch yourself with your foot in a wide and low stance which gives your gate a natural bob and a wide stance is ideal for turning punches where pivoting the feet along with the core creates massive power and the rear leg will be pulled off the ground watch Conor mcgregor for this strike... the rear leg lifting allows you to square. You can also use the falling step side to side right hook lifts left leg falling left. A wide stance also allows you as is shown well in jkd good mobility but Tyson and Dempsey were very much off balance during there punches which is why they had to punch from either leg.
You comment is good. I too though that he wasn't moving in a Dempsey way, but a JKD way. In the end of the day, movement is just movement, but if he wants to explain an established concept he should do it according to the original source first and not using his personal bias to modify it.
When you hit with your lead leg off the ground, the jab is more power due the extra force of gravity
Great explanation.
Get in your fighting stance, lean forward, using your front leg, spring forward. Executed correctly, 80% of your bodyweight is dumped into the target. Think of it like a dive into a pool. Similar to Muay Thai superman punch.
Excellent video.
Well done Sir.
I knew Bruce loved boxing, I had no idea it was all Jack Dempsey until I saw the look of the strikes, stance, and movement in this video. Wow! Awesome!
I wouldn't say it was "all Jack Dempsey"! ;-) Bruce was inspired by/influenced by several of the old boxers via the books and fight footage they left behind. Another important one was Jim Driscoll, who wrote several books. One of them was all about how to use the lead hand punch!
Mikey Dunks I heard that he admired Muhammed Ali's fighting style .
Bruce used Ali"s cross step footwork and jab
I don't know about all, he also looked into thoughts and techniques of other great Boxers
any idea what the book titles were or should I just search Jim Driscoll
Great description of what the champ wrote about the trigger step in the beginning of the video. The only problem with your demonstration is its obvious you are shifting your weight to, and pushing off your rear foot.
You may be right! Still practicing! ;-)
Iron Fist Wing Chun Boxing taking the step with the body weight on the lead foot causes you to immeadiately FALL. hence falling step. Try it with your back foot off the ground so you cant cheat. Youll know u got it when your lead foot makes a loud slap when it lands.
@@eb2894 Correct.
Dempsey talks about the back foot simply being there to save you from falling off balance.
All the weight should be into that front foot.
What I like to do in sparring (haven't used it in an actual bout yet) is to feint the left jab and at the same time shift my weight forward into the left foot. THEN I come with the Jolt.
@@ironfistwingchunboxing139 this was a good demonstration mate dont worry
Sunday 26th May 2024.
07.59am.
Dear Sir. Good-morning. How are you? I sincerely hope you are well. I love the way, you explained 'the falling step'. I cannot thank you enough, for what you have done for me. I only hope I so the falling step justice and pay particular attention to my movement and technique. You deserve an applause. 👏 Dill Smith (trainer) say's 'big up' All the best. The Bull Of Lewisham. 🦬
You don't drag the back leg, Dempsey book says ball of your back leg acts as a rocking chair to teeter you more forward, to help gravity
agree with SLIM SHADY rear leg on ball acts as a spring then after punch delivered rear leg drawn forward to execute next DROP STEP -SIDE SLIP -FIST or any combination in SAM NESS' PEEK-A-BOO COMBINATIONS credit CUS D'AMATO ...MIKE TYSON little man knocks out big me
Was just reading about the falling step in Dempsey s book and found your video lol great video and very thorough
do you have a pdf or a hard copy, if it's a hard copy where did you get it
No its realy bs he shows it very wrong
Very good breakdown
Good shift of weight, but the technique shows a wide open line to the jaw...
and that jump launch from the back foot makes you lead with the head, may pose risks for check-counters or side-step-counters.
Where can we see this being done right, with the punch supporting the weight?
I believe this step and shoulder lunge is called the rock slide and it turns the jab into a battering ram especially when they step into it.
I did this a lot , aaaa lot 👍great content sir .
where is the jet sound?
Sir i thank you
Good stuff
will landing of the punch hand before foot?
Never thrown a dig in his life this lad
🤣 naa he explained it well though mate I've seen some right shit demonstrations of stepping into your jabs and he showed it better than most of the other mugs
I don't see a video made by you explaining it better.
Thank you
Not the drop step you have to land the punch nearly extended just before the lead foot touches the ground again and this has to be timed with the right distance so that your arm doesn't collapse from landing too late but also so that the entire "jolt" is through by still not positioning the foot too far back and pulling back on the momentum. The way I was taught was with a rag and at first I was told to intentional exaggerate the step, almost like jumping and then hitting before I would land. Then you just tighten everything up. And Dempsey would twist his lead foot when he was doing a whirl, sort of have to in order to put the line of attack adjacent tangent (90) from the core of the target which is where the most power can be absorbed. And it's really hard to implement this on a heavy bag, you can, but you have to modify like Tyson did (that's not the only reason he had to modify it, boxers were different creatures by the time Tyson came along). Dempsey was so good at this because he probably spent more time fighting real opponents when he was young than he did training on equipment.
Bruce Lee did study Dempsey, but felt that his punches would telegraph too much, so he cut the process in half essentially striking a balance between the some of the forward momentum in the drop step and the ability to counter quickly by shifting which required the front foot to be planted. That's what you're doing. Probably is more practical in a street fight, but Lee also never really considered the figure eight that Dempsey incorporated into his punches, similar to how Benny Urquidez developed his movement to meld with combinations and vice versa. The problem with Lee is he was about spending an inordinate amount of time in training through the progression a student takes only to return to mastering the fundamentals and continuing to refine them in order to be prepared for any opponent. That's just unrealistic for most people; he never understood 'good enough' and even if he would acknowledge the practicality behind such a notion, would still reject it on the basis of the spiritual aspect martial arts had in his life. Lee tried to teach people how to live their lives, Dempsey tried to teach how to survive several minutes in a physical confrontation, though he did consider for his own purposes and the sport the benefits that boxing could have in developing character and discipline.
New sub here.Thx for an excellent vid ✌
G'day. This look like a straight to me. Can anyone explain the difference between a jab and a straight ??(apart from intention.) Thanks. MozzfromOz
Yes. Dempsey explains this in his book. The jab uses the shoulders to deliver power and the fist lands turned down parallel to the floor. The power of the shoulder swivelling lands the blow. The straight punch uses the whole body for the power and in particular the falling step puts the weight of whole body into the punch. The fist lands upright and just the last three knuckles are used because they are a straight conduit of the body weight. The punch should land before the lead step lands on floor to ensure whole body weight is delivered through the fist.
Brandon Rios used that shot alot..most effectively Vs Anthony Peterson,MIguel Acosta and Mike Alvarado(second fight)..actually hurting his opponents.Also Sergey Kovalev & Miguel Bertchelt have the jolt in their arsenal.
Brandon Rios is a bum . No style , flat footed , takes punches on his chin to get inside and doesnt move his head enough , Garbage !
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Marvin Hagler used a variation of that. That's why he fought southpaw; he wanted the strong hand forward.
You punch your target before your front foot lands. It adds more power
Jack Dempsey is my great uncle
So you're James 'dumb ass' Dempsey? Get lost wanna'be
You never go heel, toe
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I can’t stand when the pad man doesn’t catch the punch 🥊
you could actually turn that off balance posture into a badass kick but that aint boxing lol
Isn't this how most people in mma learn to jab by default? At least a version of this.
Juan portillo if your reading this, watching this video brought back horrible memories
I’ve heard Bruce called this the “straight blast”.
During training, Bruce Lee would stand at a long distance from his student. He would ask him, "do you feel safe?" right before he lunges in and hits him. 😂
This story of the "falling step" is "how to complicate the explanation of a dynamic weight shifting"
No with dempseys punch you actually catch yourself with your fist on the other persons face.
Hand first ,hand first.
I am a Tae Kwon Do instructor. Have taught “Old School” TKD as well as boxing for almost 40 years. This is bad instruction. Flat footed and basically leading with the face. An even distribution of weight on the balls of the feet, mostly, and learning from a good boxing instructor would help this person. Unfortunately too many martial arts instructors think they can box without ever having studied under a qualified coach. I was one of them as well! Get humble, and get to a boxing gym.
The technique was from old boxing.I mean really old 1920's maybe.
I'll fight you, bro.
@@kingalpha8389 Natural order being what?
FATHER MOST HIGH GOD/YAHUAH/YAHUSHUA
JESUS/YESHUA/LIVING WORD
Man
Animal
Plant
Ect..
Ps. Dont be so primal and act like you (got some sense) can access that frontal lobe unless you have a dry sense of humor and I missed it.. :-)
@@carpejkdiem I lift, son. You had better watch it.
@@PLONG12345 The technique might be old, but the book from which it's from was first published in 1950. So people had time to test around this concept.
Just like bruse lee straight lead
erst den schritt zu machen und dann zu schlagen ist doch kein falling step, nicht umsonst heisst es, nur der tor rennt seinem schlag bevor, so ist das ganze unsinn
Looks like Jeet kune Do lead for sure. Token a couple noses using this technique. Opponent never sees it coming. Only fought in self defense.
you have to literally fall into the punch. the back foot is like the kickstand. It's not a punch i would start off with in a real fight. but if you are going round, and then have the chance to land this punch should be a KO punch.
I must warn people who wants to use jolt... you can do it sometimes but you have to understand , you put your back in danger, back muscle are not made for rotations
But you're not supposed to rotate on the jolt. The weight goes straight forward.
😂🤣 You never step in heel to toe
You push/slide in ball of the foot first!
I would have to disagree on the balance aspect of this technique. Idk if its the actual technique or the way it was demonstrated in this video. Also, you're talking "long range" but it definitely compromises speed; looks like a really predictable punch.
Marco Angelo Torres it’s the way he does it, I’m 22-1-1 as an amateur and this is my go to jab, highly effect if you do it properly, but high risk because you sacrifice the ability to counter if your opponent times your step.
Not really getting more out of this than I would from normal push-off or hip drive.
This isn't falling step, this is trigger step
flat onya back foot instead on ball of foot otherwise good vid thanks
rear foot on ball act as spring--agree with RB
Looks like a jab to me.
it is, its just a very specific way to do the Jab
Almost like a Bruce lee jkd punch
The irony is Dempsey's theory on proper punching technique was close to wing chun; his concept of the power line...landing with the ring finger knuckle is also foundational in wc. The major difference is where the force comes from and the angle of the knuckle.
No knife hand, and you whirl your shoulder slightly. Ol' Jack shakes his head..
That assistant likes to touch his face a lot
He's punching way to late into drop step technique, you should almost be falling forward as punch is thrown, hes close but dynamics are off.
1000 % incorrect sir, the hand makes contact with the foot not after it as you do which let's the power go into the floor
Thats not a falling step my dude. With a falling step the hand hits before the foot plants.
I don't know anything about Wing Chun or any other martial art, but this is a good explanation of the falling step and jolt.
This isn't taught in any boxing gym I've ever trained in. I started incorporating it a few years back.
If nothing else, using the Jolt will disrupt the opponent's offense.
2 mitts are better than 1
back heel is turned in the wrong direction. called a jab shuffle or jab step. knee should be towards your op. when knee is turned out it vulnerable to a kick or knee and reduces the length of your lunge. Keep weight on the balls of the feet, balance with your heels. your close....
This is incorrect as the fist must contact the mitt prior to the foot stepping down. Otherwise the power is lost in the ground. Don't feel bad because 98 % of people don't get this punch right. But Bruce Lee certainly did!
This has no boxing background does he
keep ur hips lose it will generate more power
hahaha you're funny😂
Thats nothing like what dempsey is saying 😂😂😂
John 3:16 For God so love the world that he gave he's one and only son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
En spanish please
who is the guy thart telling for punches?a heavyweight champion maybe?bcuse if not then its a shame to show people bad moves that can lead them to death lol....
It's much better to have your weight on the back foot with your lead hip up higher then the back hip. Step in hard with the jab, front foot and body weight all at once. Never just ''fall in'' because you're coming up off the back foot which means if/when you get countered you're stuck there with your legs splayed out and can't move, all you can do is hope to grab for safety. You need to 1) push in, off the back foot with the jab, 2) If jab lands throw a second jab while pushing out/away off the front foot and always with your knees bent so you're low on the way out with your hands up ready to punch or defend. Philly power jab.
Real fight you would be knocked out
How do you know? The fist should land before the front foot, the back is there to kind of steady your balance. But if you are fighting, landing a few then pow..throw this punch...at least my hand..will break the other person's face
Vinny DiLorenzo his face isn’t guarded, he drops his arms when he strikes, leaving him completely open, he isn’t fast enough, and looks at his hands instead of his opponents eyes, wing Chun is not applicable, it’s weak. For the same reason you never quite see Bruce lee, using it in his movies, he sticks to the kicks and punches of TKD, boxing, and grappling of judo.
I can tell he’s an amateur just by looking at his demo. It’s sloppy, looking like he started at a very late age, and didn’t train enough.
i knew y'all were a couple of towel snappers….
The way you are doing this is completely wrong. You are letting your foot touch the ground before your hand hits. Then your weight goes into the ground not the opponent. Your hand should be on the target before your foot lands. No disrespect meant here.
YALL ARE BEHIND MAN. AS A BOXER IV BEEN DOING THIS PUNCH FOR YEARS. ITS CALLED A POWER JAB. AND YOU ARE DOING THE MOST UNCOMFORTABLE VERSION OF IT. THERES A BETTER WAY TO DO IT FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT ANGLES.
@@boxing.ascetic I spend most of my time in the gym actually training not making youtube videos so probably not.
@@boxing.ascetic Maybe i will someday if i can get atleast 100K followers and monetize my channel. until then i dont even think i have a dozen followers.
I'll fight you, bro.
@@illuminatedperspectives2894 You need to put content out first. You won't get 100K followers just because you want it.
AlexEinherjar i know hopefully i can get more time to start working on content production.
there is no jab behind it..it's straight thru
It’s too wing Chun, not boxing, your footwork, punching hand movement, drops too much, it’s not good boxing or fighting habit
you got it all wrong...
I think you are fooling yourself. To get that lead leg to move forward fast, the rear leg has to push somewhat. Test it again. Forget the darn dogma and try it both ways. I dare you to throw a good step jab with no weight or push on your rear leg as you suggest here.
This punch has no power behind it.
Or you could spend £5 on a knuckle duster....? Just a thought........
This guy is doing it wrong, using the right words to an extent but his form is terrible. Let me break it down. When all of your weight is on that front foot. You then let that front foot give, you lift it up ever so slightly. When that happens you feel the tension in the ball of your back foot and it will propel you forward, or push you forward. Your level will change when that happens, so as your moving forward you are also falling down. When done correctly you actually hit your target before that front foot touches and your head will be in a lower place then it was before. Almost like a lunge. In theory all of the weight and force is supposed to land on your target giving you maximum power. The key and trick to this is understanding range and leverage to truly maximize this. The closer your stance is the better actually, gives you more time to land the punch. Although the faster you let the leg give out and allow your weight to fall forward the more powerful the lunge becomes, the faster the punch becomes, which then translates into a more powerful punch cover a greater distance.
It truly bothers me how poorly this man is using his back leg. Completely destroys the purpose of this punch. The fact that it’s pointing out and not in clearly demonstrates how he has no idea what the fuck he is doing.
rear foot on ball acts as spring
no disrespect to IFWCB...greatful for the discussion and using my own mind and JACK DEMPSEY & SAM NESS BOOK to self tutor...not so easy to execute fist off falling step
U are pulling the hand back before striking as well...
Stop doing that,
It may take months to practice to get it,but don't draw your hand back.. And ,that long range lunge punch,is not nor was it ever meant to use like that,it probably you have that distanc e,run the othe r way,,it's demo ,carnival exhibition purpose...
Worst explanation of Dempseys technique this guy has no real knowledge of Boxing looking at his technique stance and explanation.
You would be better playing tennis.
Yo, it doesn't look like boxing.
Ty