If you want the promises of the tithe you should tithe. If it is in your heart ask God. Always ask God. You can even give God a tithe of your day. God wants your love and your heart.
Your are misleading saying tithe is not mandatory. How come we still claim blessings of old testament if it's useless. Christ did not stop tithe either. Tithing was before the law. Abraham tithed as a response to a revelation of the goodness of God in delivering him and his household from raiding kings. Jacob tithed as a response to a dream about God and his holiness. After Moses received the 10 commandments, the tithe was set up by God as a requirement by 11 tribes to give 10% of their income to support the tribe of Levi, who had the responsibility of the priesthood and running the temple Jesus did not abolish tithe
There were no blessings ever promised in the bible for paying money to a religious institution. Abraham (Abram at the time) submitted a one-time honorarium to Melchizedek comprised of items he said he wouldn't accept. There's no biblical evidence he ever did so again, that this was required by God, or that this established any mandate for anyone else. There's no biblical evidence Jacob ever submitted a tithe or any information on how he would do so. It's interesting how his lineage did so under Mosaic Law. All biblical systematic (required) tithing began and ended under Mosaic Law. Systematic tithes were specifically purposed and only received as consumable items. Jesus fulfilled the Old Covenant laws for atonement which the ceremonial and civil ordinances such as tithing supported. Those ordinances are now obsolete under the New Covenant.
Today's version of tithing money to a religious institution has no biblical precedent. Giving is another matter and yes, we should do so as we're able. Monetizing the tithe as a deliverable was man's idea after the bible was written.
Here are a few key points that everyone needs to understand, on the topic of tithing: (1) Levites receive tithes, and no one else. God Himself mandated this (see Numbers 18:21-22). (2) The tithe of Abraham to Melchizeded was a tithe of tradition, not religion, becasue there were no religious or legal requirement to tithe, as he did. (3) The tithe promised by Jacob was similarly one of tradition, not a religious observance (4) No gentile has ever been required to tithe in the Old testament. Only Jews. And only to Levites, because of Numbers 18:21-22. (5) No gentile has ever been asked to tithe in the New Testament, and certainly, not the church (6) Every mention to tithe in the New Testament was directed to Jews, as was required by the law of Moses, never to Gentiles (7) Gentile believers were never required to live by the law of Moses in the New Testament; this law is what mandated tithing. Concerning giving, or tithing, or prosperity, Malachi 3:8-12 is not the full counsel of God. It is an excerpt, quoted to the church for centuries (believe it or not), which is a misrepresentation of God's counsel. We've accepted it because that's what we have always been taught. If you're interested in learning more, check out "Tither, You Are Free!", available on Amazon.
@@Moteswa I merely clarified that the law of Moses was given to the Jews, not the Gentiles. However, both Jews and Gentiles are now serving *the same God,* under the New Testament principles of grace, in Jesus Christ. The Old Testament, Mosaic law, has been replaced by grace, in Christ Jesus. This is why the apostles, who are Jews, never did any animal sacrifices or similar requirements of the law of Moses. It is why Paul said true circumcision is of the heart (Colossians 2:11-12), which is opposite of the requirement of the law of Moses to physically circumcise. Tithing, which was mandated under that same law, has similarly been replaced by grace. Moteswa, you are under grace, not the law.
@waynemcghie6500 Malachi 3:8 KJV [8] Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. The above verse addresses a MAN, not a Jew!.
@@Moteswa you said, "The above verse addresses a MAN, not a Jew!" I don't think you are reading the scripture in context. For example, Jesus told the devil, "It is written: Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God" (Matthew 4:4). Based on your argument, the scripture addresses a MAN. So, does it mean that a WOMAN shall live on bread alone, but NOT on every word that comes from the mouth of God? Of course not! Throughout the Bible, "mankind" or "man," has been used to mean all people, including women. So, "Will a man rob God" addresses people who were required to pay tithes. But I ask you, who were these people that were required to pay tithes? Well, the Bible provides that answer, and I even gave you the scripture. If you want to know, read Numbers 18:21-24. That's where God established tithing under the law of Moses.
@waynemcghie6500 Whenever the Bible refers to a MAN the Woman was indirectly included. So there is no issuie. MAN means MANKIND. You insist that MANKIND meant JEWS, the Bible does not say so. Sorry! MAN meant every HUMANKIND on earth and NOT JEWS only. Unless you give me a verse which says MAN meant JEWS, the discussion ends here.!
What we give on Sunday is nether tithes or offerings. The collection for the saints in 1 Corinthians 16:1-2 was given for needy Christians (saints). There were different offerings in the old law such as trespass offerings, burnt offerings, etc. however the most common type, burnt offerings, were animal sacrifice for atonement of sins. In Christianity, Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God, is the ultimate sacrifice for sins. Therefore what we give on Sunday in the collection, is not offering. There is no verse that calls it offering.
This is error. 1 Cor 9:13-14 reveals that the tithe and offering there is a command in needing to be given to the preacher of today as his pay. The food in verse 13 is the mandatory tithe and in 2024 such tithe is the equivalent money. A command from God that preachers must be paid in this way. Unless they as led wish to work like Paul did for himself.
If you want the promises of the tithe you should tithe. If it is in your heart ask God. Always ask God. You can even give God a tithe of your day. God wants your love and your heart.
Your are misleading saying tithe is not mandatory. How come we still claim blessings of old testament if it's useless. Christ did not stop tithe either.
Tithing was before the law. Abraham tithed as a response to a revelation of the goodness of God in delivering him and his household from raiding kings.
Jacob tithed as a response to a dream about God and his holiness.
After Moses received the 10 commandments, the tithe was set up by God as a requirement by 11 tribes to give 10% of their income to support the tribe of Levi, who had the responsibility of the priesthood and running the temple
Jesus did not abolish tithe
There were no blessings ever promised in the bible for paying money to a religious institution.
Abraham (Abram at the time) submitted a one-time honorarium to Melchizedek comprised of items he said he wouldn't accept. There's no biblical evidence he ever did so again, that this was required by God, or that this established any mandate for anyone else.
There's no biblical evidence Jacob ever submitted a tithe or any information on how he would do so. It's interesting how his lineage did so under Mosaic Law.
All biblical systematic (required) tithing began and ended under Mosaic Law. Systematic tithes were specifically purposed and only received as consumable items.
Jesus fulfilled the Old Covenant laws for atonement which the ceremonial and civil ordinances such as tithing supported. Those ordinances are now obsolete under the New Covenant.
@@markb7067 Malachi 3; 8--18 ''When did we rob thee?'' ''when you refused to tithe,'' I don't know it verbatim but I know what God said.
The ''standard'' 10% is good. or whatever you feel in your heart.
@@marilynwillett804 Take a look at Malachi 1:6 and 2:1. It's evident that the narrative the chapter 3 was directed towards the Levitical Priests.
@@markb7067 Malachi was not written to Jews only. I don't see that reference.
Today's version of tithing money to a religious institution has no biblical precedent. Giving is another matter and yes, we should do so as we're able. Monetizing the tithe as a deliverable was man's idea after the bible was written.
Here are a few key points that everyone needs to understand, on the topic of tithing:
(1) Levites receive tithes, and no one else. God Himself mandated this (see Numbers 18:21-22).
(2) The tithe of Abraham to Melchizeded was a tithe of tradition, not religion, becasue there were no religious or legal requirement to tithe, as he did.
(3) The tithe promised by Jacob was similarly one of tradition, not a religious observance
(4) No gentile has ever been required to tithe in the Old testament. Only Jews. And only to Levites, because of Numbers 18:21-22.
(5) No gentile has ever been asked to tithe in the New Testament, and certainly, not the church
(6) Every mention to tithe in the New Testament was directed to Jews, as was required by the law of Moses, never to Gentiles
(7) Gentile believers were never required to live by the law of Moses in the New Testament; this law is what mandated tithing.
Concerning giving, or tithing, or prosperity, Malachi 3:8-12 is not the full counsel of God. It is an excerpt, quoted to the church for centuries (believe it or not), which is a misrepresentation of God's counsel. We've accepted it because that's what we have always been taught. If you're interested in learning more, check out "Tither, You Are Free!", available on Amazon.
Your aproach is wrong. You cannot separate God of Jews and of Gentiles.
@@Moteswa I merely clarified that the law of Moses was given to the Jews, not the Gentiles. However, both Jews and Gentiles are now serving *the same God,* under the New Testament principles of grace, in Jesus Christ. The Old Testament, Mosaic law, has been replaced by grace, in Christ Jesus. This is why the apostles, who are Jews, never did any animal sacrifices or similar requirements of the law of Moses. It is why Paul said true circumcision is of the heart (Colossians 2:11-12), which is opposite of the requirement of the law of Moses to physically circumcise. Tithing, which was mandated under that same law, has similarly been replaced by grace. Moteswa, you are under grace, not the law.
@waynemcghie6500 Malachi 3:8 KJV
[8] Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
The above verse addresses a MAN, not a Jew!.
@@Moteswa you said, "The above verse addresses a MAN, not a Jew!" I don't think you are reading the scripture in context. For example, Jesus told the devil, "It is written: Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God" (Matthew 4:4). Based on your argument, the scripture addresses a MAN. So, does it mean that a WOMAN shall live on bread alone, but NOT on every word that comes from the mouth of God? Of course not! Throughout the Bible, "mankind" or "man," has been used to mean all people, including women. So, "Will a man rob God" addresses people who were required to pay tithes. But I ask you, who were these people that were required to pay tithes? Well, the Bible provides that answer, and I even gave you the scripture. If you want to know, read Numbers 18:21-24. That's where God established tithing under the law of Moses.
@waynemcghie6500 Whenever the Bible refers to a MAN the Woman was indirectly included. So there is no issuie. MAN means MANKIND. You insist that MANKIND meant JEWS, the Bible does not say so. Sorry! MAN meant every HUMANKIND on earth and NOT JEWS only. Unless you give me a verse which says MAN meant JEWS, the discussion ends here.!
What we give on Sunday is nether tithes or offerings. The collection for the saints in 1 Corinthians 16:1-2 was given for needy Christians (saints). There were different offerings in the old law such as trespass offerings, burnt offerings, etc. however the most common type, burnt offerings, were animal sacrifice for atonement of sins. In Christianity, Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God, is the ultimate sacrifice for sins. Therefore what we give on Sunday in the collection, is not offering. There is no verse that calls it offering.
This is error. 1 Cor 9:13-14 reveals that the tithe and offering there is a command in needing to be given to the preacher of today as his pay. The food in verse 13 is the mandatory tithe and in 2024 such tithe is the equivalent money. A command from God that preachers must be paid in this way. Unless they as led wish to work like Paul did for himself.
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