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  • čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
  • This is everything I could fit into a concise video about Cata Demo Lock. Hope you enjoy:
    FULL prebis set: sixtyupgrades....
    If you want to use a mastery set before combat:
    1. Mastery set on 6s before prepull
    2. Soulburn + Soul Harvest 5s before Pull
    3. 1-2s before Pop mastery trinkets + meta + prepot
    4. Swap gear back the final second
    5. Leap into melee or move while casting in
    #showtooltip Metamorphosis (Prepull)
    /use Volcanic Potion
    /use Blood Fury
    /use 13
    /use 14
    /cast !Metamorphosis
    /equipset MAIN (name of your set goes here)
    NO mastery set before combat:
    1. Soulburn
    2. Soul Harvest
    3. Prepot (Precast Incin)
    If you do not need 3 shards on a fight then you can skip 1/2 and just prepot + precast incinerate
    1. Fel Storm/On Use Trinkets/(Elements if necessary)
    2. Incinerate/Shadowbolt for 5% crit (Skip if precasted)
    3. Demon Soul (Felguard) + Meta ( if not prepoped, can macro together with racials)
    4. Immo, Bane, Corr
    5. Felhunter insta summon while Soulburn is still active
    6. Hand of Guldan
    7. (In melee) Shadowflame
    8. (In melee) Immo Aura
    9. Doomguard with as many procs as possible at anytime in this opener. Blood Fury + Trinkets last ~15s so probably around step 10 is when I normally pop it. Large chunk of your damage.
    Advanced Tips:
    1. Doomguard snaps SP, haste RATING, crit, master (as demo)
    2. Demon Soul mid fight (we HARD SUMMON Felguard) for felhunter uptime instantly after.
    3. Positioning in melee, ports op charge op
    4. Felstorm opener only with 2+ targets, otherwise better to get felhunter out asap.
    More information about openers/precombat prep listed in discord and if you have questions on Anything/Macros/Addons/WAs: / discord
    Streamed at : / itspummel
    SUPPORT ME AT: / itspummel
    0:00 Intro
    0:12 Talents
    0:49 Glyphs
    1:30 Stat Priorities
    2:25 Prebis + Enchants
    2:38 Mastery Sets + Pre-combat
    4:14 What is Pet Twisting?
    5:05 Debuffs + Opener
    6:20 Full Opener
    6:46 Rotation Maintenance
    8:05 Advanced Tips
    10:08 Outro

Komentáře • 251

  • @ItsPummel
    @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +10

    THE WEAKAURA PACK IS FROM AHLAUNDOH ON TWITCH. IT IS PAYWALLED.
    If you want it you must sub to him on twitch, join his discord, connect your twitch to your discord, then it should appear.
    As the game progresses the order we does things sometimes changes, if you disagree with something or want to learn more modern rotation please join the discord and ask in the #request-help channel.
    Adding any helpful tips to this pinned comment:
    Profs: Tailoring/Engi for T11
    "Impending Doom" talent has 15% change with Incin, Soul Fire, and Shadow Bolt to reduce the Meta cd by 15s, making your cds not align sometimes.

    • @xxbrutal1ty94
      @xxbrutal1ty94 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Raist>god here. Great vid brother! I actually macro my meta w demon leap so I can get higher uptime on IA before I pull out my DG. I haven't had a chance fo dissect sims yet tho just seems like a higher uptime on that would be better because u still have time to snap everything else

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      @@xxbrutal1ty94 Thats a great idea I gotta try that out

    • @zedfelos
      @zedfelos Před 2 měsíci

      Would I lose access to the WA pack if I were to unsub from the twitch channel later?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@zedfelos You'd be unable to update the WA if he makes any changes, but long term you'd have it forever.

    • @alirezamashreghi1
      @alirezamashreghi1 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Parsing guide waiting room ❤❤

  • @Reaperkiller85
    @Reaperkiller85 Před 23 dny +1

    Thanks for the great guide! I am switching to demo-lock from Fire mage to help our group be more well rounded to clear heroic raids so your guide is definitely going to help me get up to speed and seems like I can still top the charts with this class!

  • @TWISTEDGiraff3
    @TWISTEDGiraff3 Před měsícem +2

    Thank you I really needed this. It seems like a lot to take in but hopefully it’s one of those things where it’s not so bad once you’ve done it a fair bit.

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před měsícem +1

      It is just a repetition and you will pick it up quick I think

  • @matthewframpton8737
    @matthewframpton8737 Před 10 dny +1

    Great guide! I've been wanting to get into Demo - but it feels like a spec with a V.High skill ceiling and it's been frustrating to not feel I am getting the results I wanted from it. This has helped me a lot to clear some things up!

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 10 dny +1

      Its satisfactory once you can get your ducks in a row and figure out where your fingers are supposed to move on the opener, the maintenance is the easy part in my opinion. You'll continue to pick it up quick

  • @j-mikey
    @j-mikey Před 2 měsíci +2

    thank you so so much, as someone mentioned, the WA would be huge to have!!

  • @klkd477
    @klkd477 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Great video man! Exactly what I was looking for. Thsnks

    • @ksadjdadjaifen
      @ksadjdadjaifen Před 24 dny

      Actually a bot lmao. This guy's entire comment section is bot comments he purchased.

  • @RJSoler
    @RJSoler Před 2 měsíci +3

    Thanks Pummel! Coming in clutch and always a good watch

  • @edwineliel
    @edwineliel Před měsícem +1

    Great job thanks for taking the time to do the video :)

  • @borg_wow
    @borg_wow Před měsícem +1

    This is exactly what I was looking for. A detailed step by step for the rotation, I was pulling SHIT DPS my first raid, horrible, cause I had no idea how to effectively execute even after scouring the WoWhead guides.
    Can you give some tips on heroic dungeon rotations and AoE for packs of 3+?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před měsícem

      on ~3 I usually put immolate on all the mobs + corr + agony if it can tick the entire duration. Single target into one, 4+ just hellfire, shadowflame, felstorm.

  • @fugazi8115
    @fugazi8115 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Thanks for the great Demo guide for Cata!

  • @demonek156
    @demonek156 Před 2 měsíci +5

    There's 1 thing you didn't mention! Shadowflame has haste breakpoint as well, and you need 1007 rating for an additional tick. That's not too hard to achieve so it's a small thing that might be worth keeping in mind when looking at you pre-raid bis

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +2

      I can't believe I forgot shadowflame haste tick, this is good info, thanks!

    • @boffboffautopflege7957
      @boffboffautopflege7957 Před 2 měsíci

      but its 1007 rating without raid buffs? I have 1251 (13,06% with selfbuff) and get 4 ticks on the puppet.

    • @demonek156
      @demonek156 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@boffboffautopflege7957 yeah it's without raid buffs. I don't remember exact value for an actual tick to happen, but you need 8% more haste (5% raid buff + 3% dark intent). Wowhead guide definitely mentions it.

  • @Funkefetti
    @Funkefetti Před 2 měsíci +2

    2400 solves and no staff, thanks pummel this video really helped!

  • @murderface219
    @murderface219 Před 2 dny +1

    Great video, thanks a lot! Quick question: when I do the mastery swap before pull, it puts my trinkets and gloves on CD, even though I share the same gloves and trinkets across both Mastery and Normal sets. That's not supposed to happen right?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před dnem +1

      @@murderface219 yeah that’s not supposed to have if they’re the same in both sets in the same spots. Would just double check that

  • @jennak88
    @jennak88 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Hey Joardee this video is great, but my guild is still struggling to kill heroic LK as you still haven't made a boss guide for it. Can you please help?

  • @abdelmalekbechar2817
    @abdelmalekbechar2817 Před 28 dny +1

    Yo hi, I'm starting the class on wow cataclysm and I have a question running through my head, what is an opener and a full opener, I can't differentiate between multi-target and single-target rotations (I'm French! )

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 28 dny

      @@abdelmalekbechar2817 basically the same thing, full opener is tying it all together

  • @spinifex3715
    @spinifex3715 Před 2 měsíci +1

    thanks for the vid. i'm hating demo atm, sweating hard for average dps, basically just the raids uber and health stone producer, hunters destroying just pressing 1 button lol.

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah hunters doing big dam and using a lot less apm atm, play what you think fits your style, I am loving my hunter too rn

  • @YeovilCarpers
    @YeovilCarpers Před 2 měsíci +2

    been waiting for this one!

  • @joanhoyos4369
    @joanhoyos4369 Před 2 měsíci +3

    The best video on ytb about demon warlocks. Mate why do you prefer incineration version, over the shadow bolt version?
    Thanks

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +2

      I think it makes more sense with the incin 5% dam + ease of use with molten core procs

    • @markpfiester2579
      @markpfiester2579 Před měsícem +1

      Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!

  • @matthewframpton8737
    @matthewframpton8737 Před 10 dny

    @ItsPummel Question: What are the Pros/Cons of the Shaowbolt vs Incinerate playstyle? is there a breakpoint based on Haste/iLv I should be looking to? Or do they perform fairly similarly and it's personal Pref?
    Question: Do ALL Dots - Corruption/Immolate/Bane of Doom or Agony all snapshot our stats in the way you describe Doomguard doing? I.E. Should I be aiming to pop all my Procs/Pots/Cds before applying Dots - and similarly aiming to refresh them AFTER I pop buffs like Synapse Springs? or do these DoTs scale dynamically and not care if I had the buff before/after cast?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 10 dny +1

      Sbolt sims slightly higher, most people run sbolt at this point including myself. It's a little more fun too with the procs baked in.
      Dots take in SP/haste they don't really snapshot crit like they used to. I would put up inital dots with procs, but I wouldn't overwrite a current agony/corr before it runs out with more procs, but doom is very worth it since it lasts so long. Merfin has a good SP doom snapshotter. TLDR no to refreshing besides doom. Dots do not scale dynamically, but in the case of immolate when it gets refreshed by hand of guldan the new immolate will take your current SP. Hope that helps.

    • @matthewframpton8737
      @matthewframpton8737 Před 10 dny

      @@ItsPummel so much tyvm!

  • @Darniros
    @Darniros Před 2 měsíci +1

    Best guides! thank you so much

  • @talisredstar1543
    @talisredstar1543 Před 2 měsíci +1

    is the in game stats window broken? because i'm at 1788 hit on my lock and it says I honly have 15 percent hit. I should be over 17 percent right now. anyone know?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      Double check that you are looking at spell hit% and not melee, you have spell/ranged/melee hit that all show on the character panel now

    • @talisredstar1543
      @talisredstar1543 Před 2 měsíci

      @@ItsPummel .... ... >.< I straight up been looking at melee this whole time jfc. I fixed that shit so I have to scroll down to see melee, and spells is the one i'll see al the time. omg. I can't believe I didn't catch that. I was just blinded by "hit chance

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      @@talisredstar1543 Happens to everyone, super normal least you got the right hit now

  • @lookherelooklisten3078
    @lookherelooklisten3078 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Dope vid

  • @gilmarbotellopalomino2460
    @gilmarbotellopalomino2460 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Tengo una duda, he visto tambien el video de Pummel, pero no logro ver en que gasta su primer (opener) QUEMAR ALMA.

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      You use it on Felhunter "pet swap"

  • @alistrine2218
    @alistrine2218 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great guide this was useful.

  • @adama3212
    @adama3212 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Shadowbolt or incinerate as main filler though? And why? I like numbers. I hear SB but see you using incinerate filler it seems. Which is what I've been doing but thinking about switching glyphs too SB build. I think its same talent tho right

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      The sim says SB is better, but in my head the ease with incin molten core procs + 5% incin dmg as a glyph is better and feels smoother. I think the difference is almost negligible and the sim assumes perfect (4%) shadow trance uptime which I think is unrealistic, but might be higher on multi-target fights. Basically sam talents except you take imp Corr instead of Bane.

  • @AutomaticChess
    @AutomaticChess Před 2 měsíci +9

    Can you link the weak auras you use to help with the rotation pls?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      Unfortunately, the WA is under a paywall from Ahlaundoh, it is in his discord once you connect your discord to twitch + subbed to him it should appear!

  • @Temkras
    @Temkras Před 2 měsíci +1

    Hi. Me again. Just learning. Do you have a macro to use the Felguard's spells? Felstorm and Axe toss that is.

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před měsícem +1

      #showtooltip
      /cast [pet:Voidwalker] Sacrifice
      /cast [pet:Succubus] Seduction
      /cast [pet:Felhunter] Spell Lock
      /cast [pet:Felguard] Axe Toss
      All in one pet macro

  • @jamos169
    @jamos169 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Thanks dude, one question I have, is in decimation I understand you still use incinerate on MC proc, but do you still use Shadow Flame on CD?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      I would still use it as of right now, especially since its one of the few spells you can move and cast while you re-position. Maybe there's a threshold where the dot isn't worthwhile to use anymore, but it feels right atm.

    • @jaygee6629
      @jaygee6629 Před 2 měsíci +2

      It also, more importantly, counts towards Shadow Bite damage.

    • @ksadjdadjaifen
      @ksadjdadjaifen Před 24 dny

      @@ItsPummel "as of right now" maybe dont make a video before the game is even released. tons of updates and outdated info

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 24 dny

      @@ksadjdadjaifen I made the video when the game came out so people had a place to start, obviously things change as people discover things in the community that's the nature of this game. I only use sbolt filler now, my opener has changed, my mastery set has updated, etc. Was planning on making an updated video when I got back from my 3 week international trip.

  • @Mindtricks101
    @Mindtricks101 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Hey do you have a list of you addons you use as a lock or just in general? Im getting back after a few years and can't help but play my main again :D. That weak auras looks perfect

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah I got everything listed in my discord, if you got any further questions feel free to DM me I answer everything

  • @mr.melancholy5664
    @mr.melancholy5664 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks bro appreciate the video ❤

  • @JohannesWOW
    @JohannesWOW Před měsícem +1

    7:15 how come you didnt cast Hand of Gul'dan to reapply Immolate? Then proceed to hard cast Immolate with Hand of Gul'dan off CD?
    Also, I got trinkets that proc haste, some proc INT. Which ones actually matter for snapping abilities? I only ask, cause you brought up the word 'nuance'
    wouldn't you say that 'incinerate/shadow bolt filler' should be discussed in the advanced tips and tricks section? I only ask because you brought it up, it wasn't something I found falling into your discord. You literally mentioned it. So. Why are there two versions? Once you explain it, I bet we agree it matters.

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před měsícem

      @@JohannesWOW
      Didn’t hand of guldan because I was monologuing about doom and wasn’t paying attention (can’t talk and play apparently)
      Int are the trinkets that matter for snapping Doomguard/abilities, haste trinkets might not bring you to certain breakpoints and immolate refreshes with hand
      Incinerate filler is simpler and shadowbolt spec adds nightfall procs that’s about it. Shadowbolt spec sims (last time I checked) about 50 dps more than incinerate. Didn’t think it was worth an explanation because it a rounding error when we sim 30k+ damage, play how you want is my mantra.
      Hope this helps

  • @Neardrage
    @Neardrage Před 2 měsíci +1

    OH BOY WAS I WAITING FOR THIS

  • @PewPewPlasmagun
    @PewPewPlasmagun Před 2 měsíci +1

    The haste soft caps appear to be for goblin only with the 1% racial.

  • @jaygee6629
    @jaygee6629 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Should be noted, the SB build is just straight up better than the incinerate build. It's not a single target verse cleave scenario as previously thought.

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      The sim isn't 100% complete, but as of right now this is very correct and a good take.

  • @bogkisson1161
    @bogkisson1161 Před měsícem +1

    if using shadowbolt instead of incinerate spec, why molten core talent? am i missing something, why not aura of foreboding and max out fel synergy instead

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před měsícem

      Molten core talent is worth in the sbolt spec because it is extra damage compared to the aura and fel synergy.

  • @mikaeleriksson7768
    @mikaeleriksson7768 Před měsícem +1

    Nice vid pummel! What are your thoughts on affliction in cata? is it viable or is it demo all the way???

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před měsícem +1

      Aff is good once I get a break from raiding and work I’ll be making a 10 minute affliction guide

  • @williejohnson515
    @williejohnson515 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I have that same spec but I been filling with shadowbolt should I just mainly fill with incinerate .. and only cast shadowbolt for the buff?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      if you use sbolt use the corruption glyph + bane talent (destro tree), if you want to use incinerate filler use incin glyph + corruption talent (aff tree). You can use either

  • @MW3FANBOY123
    @MW3FANBOY123 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Do I reapply my dots at 1 second only if I have trinket to go with it ? Or never clip dots ?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I'd let my dot expire if its stronger than the new application, but if you want more dot uptime and cannot time that perfectly, I would clip my dot in advance.
      Ex: You apply Doom with DMC: Volcano + Tendrils and it has 15s left, but you have no trinket procs. I would let it expire then reapply it immediately, hopefully enough time for new procs.
      OR
      You apply Doom with only Power Torrent (weapon enchant) and its at 14s, but you see volcano is about to come off cd. I'd wait for the volcano proc up to the last second to reapply.
      There's a lot of different scenarios that could happen with each dot and I imagine someone somewhere will eventually make a WA letting you know if you should clip or not similar to corruption snapping in wrath. Hope this helps.

  • @Ranieri69er
    @Ranieri69er Před 2 měsíci +1

    Can we get a bis mastery set video please! thanks for the video, best lock guide ive seen for cata so far!

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      I don't have a vid about it, but here is a sample mastery swap set: sixtyupgrades.com/cata/set/utGxvrgBSH4Ab6rgbv6GwH

    • @Ranieri69er
      @Ranieri69er Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ItsPummel you are a legend my dude. Btw, whats your thoughts on the other lock specs post the race for world first? I saw a lot of destro and affli in the mix, i was underwhelmed from how they performed in heroics but they seem to have good use in raids.

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Ranieri69er I think aff is situationally insane like on twin dragons, haven't really tried destro out that much ngl, but from streams and such it looks like it can be worthwhile. Locks in a weird spot rn where everything can be used, just play what feels right

  • @stavey1123
    @stavey1123 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Appreciate the helpful guide. I know this is a hot take but I hope set swapping gets changed. Theres kinda enough BS to this spec already. Idc about pet swapping but it could EASILY be changed with a Glyph.

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I wouldn't mind it either, I don't think its a hot take its probably more of a community stance at this point

  • @bboyrecovery
    @bboyrecovery Před 7 dny

    The only reason i want to play this is because Frost DK 2 spell rotation LOL gets boring. This rotation looks like it actually takes some focus. Thanks!

  • @atanasatanasov5119
    @atanasatanasov5119 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Nice video bro, you posted just in time. Can you make a video on the best mastery prepull set?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      I didn't plan on making a mastery prepull set. When youre doing heroics just grab cloth pieces that have more mastery than the ones you have, if theres enough people asking I'll give in and probably make one. The Grim Batol heroic agi/mastery on use is probably the most important early piece for it.

    • @atanasatanasov5119
      @atanasatanasov5119 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ItsPummel Thanks! Btw considering its a great dps increase, I think people would be interested in the mastery set. It's the coolest mechanic rn 😄

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      @@atanasatanasov5119 I'll see what I can do and post it in my discord.

  • @imbacookiemonster
    @imbacookiemonster Před měsícem +1

    Hi, i swapped to Demo warlock for cata, and i usually do well on other classes, however im only avg 50 ish in cata, on a decently geared warlock. i feel like im following rotation and opener fine, but i just cant push my parses higher. my activity is very high, i feel like im missing something crucial. any idea?

    • @tristonsharp3644
      @tristonsharp3644 Před měsícem

      Just keep lvling my dude

    • @imbacookiemonster
      @imbacookiemonster Před měsícem

      @@tristonsharp3644 ....

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před měsícem

      @@imbacookiemonster, cata parses are done differently so heroic is it’s own, normal it’s own. Then 10/25. Depending on the mode will determine how difficult it is to parse in it. Raid dps is big as well a good raid dps can push your purples to oranges will kill time, also kill strategy like maloriak skipping green phase will always net a lower parse (as of right now)

  • @Syiforce
    @Syiforce Před 2 měsíci +3

    Cover photo goes hard

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      Thank you!

    • @kromster1427
      @kromster1427 Před 2 měsíci

      @@ItsPummel my man did you make this art? if so where can i find it please i would like to print it out for my wall irl thanks mate

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@kromster1427 my boy Xyph made it, if you want it dm me on discord ill hook you up with him

  • @HybridMarco
    @HybridMarco Před 2 měsíci +1

    I may be super dense but why do you soulburn and soul harvest off the rip if you already have all your shards?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      Soulburn eats 1 shard, if you don't soul harvest you will go into the fight with only 2. If the fight is quick this is ok, but some fights are longer like sinestra where you probably will want all 3. You can also grab them off mobs spawning. Soul harvest is not mandatory.

  • @landenseal8156
    @landenseal8156 Před měsícem +1

    Hey Pummel. Great vid wanted to know your thoughts on lock 4 set and if its even worth using. thanks.

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před měsícem

      I'm using it and think its worth at the moment.

    • @user-it9ws2by2v
      @user-it9ws2by2v Před měsícem +1

      @@ItsPummel in what situations do you use the ability. fel something. anyway aoe? single target?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před měsícem

      @@user-it9ws2by2v what is fel something

  • @Blackstar-ti4py
    @Blackstar-ti4py Před 2 měsíci +1

    Any upcoming cata aff lock videos?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I gotta make the 10 min aff vid, but this release week + work has been real taxing, I'll do my best to get it out asap.

    • @Blackstar-ti4py
      @Blackstar-ti4py Před 2 měsíci

      @@ItsPummel Thanks!

  • @Daffy720
    @Daffy720 Před 2 měsíci +1

    How to Get The dots to get extra time when you dot The target before The dot goes out? You do that on bane of doom.

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      If you re-dot on the last tick of the dot that last tick will roll into the next one. Doom is 1 minute, so if you refresh the doom itll be 1 minute + whatever the duration until the next tick would be.

  • @NauwaTV
    @NauwaTV Před 2 měsíci +1

    Does the haste reduce Unstable Affliction ticks aswell for Affliction Warlocks? And are the softcaps the same for all 3 warlock specs?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +2

      For corruption its the same, UA is 9.9% haste for the 1st tick and almost 30% haste for the 2nd so you'd probably just go for the first. The stat priority is a bit different for aff as mastery is not as prominent. I have plans to do a 10 minute affliction guide as well, but between the launch and the day job this week I won't have time until the weekend.

    • @NauwaTV
      @NauwaTV Před 2 měsíci

      @@ItsPummel Alright, cheers my man! I got Rank 1 Destro in wrath but looking to maybe switch it up for Cata depending on what spec i find the most fun to play.

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@NauwaTV Destro on 2 target with the new curse probably owns, single target it doesnt seem that bad either. I think it would be fun to hit rank 1 again. Least you won't need a mastery swap set

  • @brandonsias7319
    @brandonsias7319 Před 7 dny +1

    Man how do I set my display up like yours? I sick when it comes to getting it organized like that.

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 6 dny +1

      Combination of WA's and addons, I have a list in my discord and you can DM me if you have quesitons

    • @brandonsias7319
      @brandonsias7319 Před 5 dny

      Appreciate it!

  • @solidlifeJ
    @solidlifeJ Před 2 měsíci +1

    thank you for the video will you be making a affliction guide?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah I want to, just don't really have time during launch this week

  • @krysteris
    @krysteris Před 2 měsíci +1

    Demo is so fun now 🎉

  • @chrisarets2231
    @chrisarets2231 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Why do we pick up the stamina on the first row ? Do we actually need it or is it more a matter of that we dont have anything else usefull to pick ?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      Nothing else useful and we have to proceed further into the tree later.

  • @Handzupisgeil
    @Handzupisgeil Před 2 měsíci +1

    How do i Finish a boss?
    Lets say hes at 10% life do i reapply all my dots or just spam decimation?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      hand of guldan will refresh Immo, corr I'd refresh if you can get the full duration as of rn, doom you can set up to run the last 1:00 of the fight and not worry about it. Spam soulfire, and when you get MC procs use MC (incinerate)

  • @alternative87dude
    @alternative87dude Před 20 hodinami

    Maybe in high end raiding its only 40% some one pulls before 0. but in my exp its more like 60% of the time u cant do the prepull rotation, so i gave up on it. xD
    whats that adon to see cds on ur dots? Atm i dont use any of such addons and man, do i fuck up my rotation often.
    Also, why use soulburn before soul harvest? It gets on cd and i cant swap out my pet.

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 11 hodinami

      I do the meta swapping now like 3-5s before and never get caught out. The dots are a weakaura from Ahlaundoh, can find it on his twitch

  • @arielflores2012
    @arielflores2012 Před 2 měsíci +1

    how much better is demo compared to affliction ? is there still snapshotting for corruption

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      multi target 2-3 affli is good, even single target its ok. Demo just is more consistent with cds.

  • @ralphxh1079
    @ralphxh1079 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Bro how can i come from being a top dog warlock in retail and be so lost when it comes to cataclysm? Hope this tips helps me.

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      If you know retail warlock you will be A-ok in cata, surely.

  • @lookherelooklisten3078
    @lookherelooklisten3078 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Hey pummel if I don’t run a mastery set pre pull , will I still be able to parse 90-95 you think ?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Probably, thing is we do not know yet until people start to settle in to the fight scripts of T11

    • @lookherelooklisten3078
      @lookherelooklisten3078 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ItsPummel okay thanks I decided to make a mastery set just in case

  • @Funkefetti
    @Funkefetti Před 2 měsíci +1

    Apparently the shadowbolt specc sims roughly 500 dps above the other one, thoughts?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah its simming higher right now, in practical use the shadow trance is a ~4% proc on average for a fight. Incinerate spec is easier to use. I will probably try shadow bolt since it sims higher and see how I feel with it.

  • @Daffy720
    @Daffy720 Před 2 měsíci

    How important is hit cap when raiding? If you have 11%, and goes to hit cap 17%. How much damage increase will you see?

  • @nb-xc8rk
    @nb-xc8rk Před měsícem

    I have right now around 9k gs and close to full epic and my meta with regular gear is around 58 % extra damage. How much % can i get with full max Mastery gear? Is 70 % extra damage possible? Otherwise it seems not to be worth if its just like around 5 % extra damage

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před měsícem

      5% is a lot, I don't know how much full 372 mastery set vs P1 bis gives you but if you can get 5% dam on pull with a button for 30s it seems worthwhile

  • @Joegengstah
    @Joegengstah Před 2 měsíci +1

    Hi do you know if fel storm and the stun resets when you resummon your main pet?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      It does not as of right now

  • @Gasman343
    @Gasman343 Před 2 měsíci +1

    hello mate! best demolock guide ever! would like to know your macros aswell ty

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      I have some macros on my discord, but always open to questions.

    • @ksadjdadjaifen
      @ksadjdadjaifen Před 24 dny

      it's outdated and came out before cata even released lmao. so many bots in these comments

  • @snatchpf9288
    @snatchpf9288 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Finaly boys he did it!It's out! 10min hunter when?xd Havnt been around lately did you get the staff yet sir ?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      no staff yet... no sword.... I'll think about making a 10 minute hunter guide this'll probably be in a bit given cata is coming out tomorrow and I gotta grind hard 4-5 champs

    • @snatchpf9288
      @snatchpf9288 Před 2 měsíci

      @@ItsPummel Don't stop believing Iknow you'll gegt it you deserve it much love sir

  • @Mrphrplekoca
    @Mrphrplekoca Před 2 měsíci +1

    Is it worth to use felstorm anymore since felhunter is showing more dps

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      When there are 2+ targets on the opener yes, Ex: Halfus

  • @brittanyblackledge2030
    @brittanyblackledge2030 Před měsícem +1

    What add on to have your bars set up like that?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před měsícem

      @@brittanyblackledge2030 bartender and the bars are mouseover

  • @wisht7624
    @wisht7624 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Hello sir, where can i find your weak aura please ?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      The WA pack is Ahlaundoh's you can go to his twitch, sub, and connect to your discord to grab it.

  • @driftaivalorant1832
    @driftaivalorant1832 Před 2 měsíci +1

    What about AOE? or Multi-Target council like fights

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Depends on number of targets, 2-3 I'd multi dot with immolate + corr + doom (agony on off targets), do single target rotation into the priority. More than that you can use hellfire + shadowflame + immo aura.

    • @driftaivalorant1832
      @driftaivalorant1832 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ItsPummel ty

  • @TheTimbox1234
    @TheTimbox1234 Před 2 měsíci +1

    do u have the macro for the non mastery swap for cds like meta etc?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      Yeha its listed in my discord, its basically the same thing but without the prepot or the gear set

  • @Combustibleporcupine
    @Combustibleporcupine Před 2 měsíci +1

    Yeah ive got an 81 warlock. Thats probably as far as I'll get because I'm not feeling all this shit tbh. Too much thinking involved. More thinking than I can do while drunk so it's not for me because i'm usually drunk or on my way... mage is more my style lol

  • @slmmvi2788
    @slmmvi2788 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Is it a big dps diff between SB and Incinirate specs?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      The sim says ~1500 dps in the random sim I did, but the sim is still in alpha, I like the incinerate atm.

  • @caseyryan5501
    @caseyryan5501 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Can you go through the Addons you use! :)

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      I have all the addons I use listed in my discord, if you got a specific question shoot me a message!

  • @W0ndering50ul
    @W0ndering50ul Před 2 měsíci +1

    Your video layout and presentation are great however could you do a video for those of us that are not min max inclined. Sort of your everyday wow player who wants to do well but have fun doing so. You know the average player doing dungeons and chill progression raiding. I respect the level at which you play and its incredible what is possible but all the snapshoting and pet twisting is a little overwhelming

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      What did you have in mind? I'm open to this sort of idea, but usually when I make something like this its more thinking top down, not starting lower, if that makes sense. If you aren't min max inclined you can keep felguard out the whole time and not use a mastery set, but I think the concepts are still important to know just in case you ever venture into wanting to do those things later down the line maybe you get bored of the tier or something. Reply to this with an idea though maybe I run with it. Right now I'm a bit overwhelmed prepping 3 chars for week 1 raiding but I want to make some more vids after.

    • @W0ndering50ul
      @W0ndering50ul Před 2 měsíci

      So from a perspective of someone swapping to the spec for the first time and has empty action bars, just spitballing here but maybe the abilities you will be using the most ordered generally, next layout the dps cooldowns and when you personally would tend to use them and when not to use the for example common mistakes made by novice players new to the spec. Any helpful macros or aura add ons that can help you notice procs for people like myself who can loose track when there is a lot going on. Then any utility cd's and examples of when you use them and presented in a way that master the core then when you feel you have it down start considering using "x" during "a" . Also maybe too much but a few clips of anything you have talked about being used in say a dungeon. For example you approaching a pack then pausing and going through your thought process briefly. Foe example ahead there is "these" mobs with "this" and I'm thinking the tank is likely to do "x" so what I am going to do here is ....... and then putting what you said into action so we can see what it looks like in practice. Sorry for waffling but that would be fantastic. I'm sure if you created a video template for something like this you could knock it out for other classes. I'm sure there would be plenty of people very grateful 🙏

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@W0ndering50ul This seems more like a catch all than a warlock specific thing? Am I reading a bit too much into it? Like a guide for when to pop cds on a boss + utility that cane be used because its pretty dynamic in general.

    • @wow-tn1wk
      @wow-tn1wk Před 2 měsíci +1

      Tbf your guide does a fantastic job covering all the main bases, mainly I was sort of pointing towards some usage examples for tge basic approaching an aoe pack, cleave pack, single target. Understand every situation is dynamic but would be good to see some of the thought processes that go through a top players mind during some encounters. What mat seem obvious to some might have been missed by others. However if you didn't change or add to anything you have done then your guide is still very good and helped me get started on demo when I got in from work.

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      @@wow-tn1wk I get what you're saying, if I do a guide for another class I think I'll diversify the rotation information with target count thats a great point and a valid criticism. Thank you very much for watching and leaving a truly non-troll insightful comment

  • @bnybhhd
    @bnybhhd Před 2 měsíci +1

    how do i get your transmog in cata?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      Have to make a group for Ulduar 25 man its the tier 8 set. Staff is the archaeology one.

  • @nyosis_tv
    @nyosis_tv Před 2 měsíci +2

    Man I can't believe all the bullshit swap mechanics we need to do in order to be optimized in Demono. Are Aff / Destro that far behind for PVE ?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      on multi-target they aren't but you won't beat the spergy of demo on single target atm sorry to say...

  • @theunderdog88
    @theunderdog88 Před 2 měsíci +1

    nice vid

  • @bradleymuzzy1305
    @bradleymuzzy1305 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great video! What is the password for your weakaura?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Gotta look up Ahlaundoh on twitch and sub to him + join his discord for it.

  • @user-bx4jw7ev9i
    @user-bx4jw7ev9i Před 2 měsíci +1

    I need WAs for warlock!!

  • @WisdomcubeWoW
    @WisdomcubeWoW Před 2 měsíci +1

    Demo should be fun. Archeology staff is bullshit though, I only get greys.

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I HATE THE ARCH STAFF AHHHH

  • @Temkras
    @Temkras Před 2 měsíci +1

    Affliction guide coming out?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +2

      It's on the to do list, have a few videos I need to work on. Been real busy between irl job + keeping up in game.

    • @Temkras
      @Temkras Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ItsPummel No worries! Is it even worth playing Affli over Demo?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      @@Temkras Yeah it is on a few fights, although you can demo all 13 and be fine

  • @dand2128
    @dand2128 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Are we using Fel Flame to renew Immolate?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      Hand of guldan renews immolate, so you shouldnt need to use felflame outside of 4pc procs

    • @dand2128
      @dand2128 Před 2 měsíci

      @@ItsPummel thanks. Also, why is it so important to keep shadow flame up/on cd? Feels like a weak spell

    • @envycaution4636
      @envycaution4636 Před 2 měsíci

      @@dand2128 if I understand it correctly and pummel can correct me if I’m wrong, since it leaves a dot the fel hunters shadow bite does more dmg, (shadow bite does more dmg per each dot on the target)

    • @dand2128
      @dand2128 Před 2 měsíci

      @@envycaution4636 ohhhh interesting. Good to know.

  • @MadiTheGJ
    @MadiTheGJ Před 2 měsíci +1

    Can you share the WA you're using?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      The WA pack is from Ahlaundoh and behind his sub on twitch paywall.

  • @sRxcss
    @sRxcss Před 2 měsíci +1

    I would love to play a Warlock but the Mastery Gearswitching is so fucking annoying cba

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      The gear swapping isnt the end all be all and half the time you're going to get locked into your gear anyways

  • @Yeauhyuh
    @Yeauhyuh Před 2 měsíci +1

    what was the music in this video

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      The Heartbound OST

    • @Yeauhyuh
      @Yeauhyuh Před 2 měsíci

      @@ItsPummel i went through all 100 and couldnt find it :( which isss itttt

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Yeauhyuh Throne of Fire and Throne of Frost

  • @ayolilbro8479
    @ayolilbro8479 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Unrelated but what's the song playing at the beginning I know it from somewhere and it drives me crazy

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      It's from the Heartbound OST, Throne of Fire or its the Throne of Ice I forget which one

  • @PeterBonnici
    @PeterBonnici Před 2 měsíci +1

    you able to link your wa's?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      All the WA's are in the discord, the big pack in the middle is by Ahlaundoh and you have to sub to him to get it from his discord.

  • @JustinTumblerlike
    @JustinTumblerlike Před 2 měsíci +1

    pummelundoh

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      don't think he'd like that lmao

  • @gologotha7922
    @gologotha7922 Před 2 měsíci +1

    any recommended weak auras?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I'd recommend a pack to have everything in place and a raid pack, but nothing super lock specific as of rn,

    • @gologotha7922
      @gologotha7922 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ItsPummel thanks for the recommendation

  • @takas01
    @takas01 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks
    Ar you renew your WA pack?

  • @ryern447031
    @ryern447031 Před měsícem +1

    Bro can you please do an in depth guide for affliction?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před měsícem

      @@ryern447031 I have one mostly made, just need to edit it and out of the country for a few weeks.

  • @45blank16
    @45blank16 Před 2 měsíci +1

    HOW DO YOU DO THE LEAP

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      Should just be a spell in your book

  • @TheTimbox1234
    @TheTimbox1234 Před 2 měsíci +1

    do you use reforge like preset demo for the stat weights?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah with reforgelite I just use the default,sometimes it makes some weird decisions, so just double check.

  • @willyhotshot
    @willyhotshot Před 2 měsíci +20

    honestly lock looks tedious this xpac

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +6

      It's a lot

    • @angelsantana6995
      @angelsantana6995 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Naw, imo lock is the most fun this xpac

    • @CyberMonkey03
      @CyberMonkey03 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Yeah I’m boutta roll with my mage instead

    • @SimakSantana
      @SimakSantana Před 2 měsíci

      Let the shitters play their mages joke of a class to be top dps

    • @Obzen88UK
      @Obzen88UK Před 2 měsíci +4

      Problem I’m having with lock is, if I use wrong spell at the wrong time I go from one of top of dps chart right down towards the bottom. Very punishing class

  • @SuzanneTurney
    @SuzanneTurney Před 2 měsíci +1

    dear god... I cannot be that fast..

  • @Paelmen
    @Paelmen Před 2 měsíci +1

    Could you share your UI?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      It's Ahlaundoh's weakaura pack and he put a paywall (sub to his twitch) on it, I'd love to share but I can't really

  • @xamurai00
    @xamurai00 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Does this guy have fun though

  • @WAGE_SLAVERY
    @WAGE_SLAVERY Před měsícem

    gamer

  • @supperEisMan
    @supperEisMan Před měsícem +1

    Nice video, just sad that yet again warlock can only do well if you abuse nieche game mechanics.

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před měsícem +1

      Maybe they'd change meta to dynamically update with mastery, but I doubt it. Agree with your take.

  • @carrioleaks
    @carrioleaks Před 2 měsíci +1

    Literally your video and wowhead says two completely different specs and play styles for demo.

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      Lot of different ways to play, this is what I am going with, things may change down the road. I may be completely wrong and wowhead is correct or wowhead might be wrong and I am correct.

  • @Yamulo
    @Yamulo Před 2 měsíci +1

    They haven’t removed this mastery shit yet?

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Nope :)

    • @Yamulo
      @Yamulo Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ItsPummel do you think it’s worth using the on use mastery trinc pre pull? I’m not sure because it’ll put your dmc on icd but it is 22% damage. Unrelated, do you think they will address this or do you think it’ll be here to stay long term

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      @@Yamulo As of right now I think it'll be long term although for my sanity I hope its short term. I am going to try to do it and see if I get griefed by my raid

    • @Yamulo
      @Yamulo Před 2 měsíci

      @@ItsPummel it’s just such a weird mechanic that I feel like makes the class even clunkier. We just need people to abuse it so hard they have to address it lol

    • @ItsPummel
      @ItsPummel  Před 2 měsíci

      @@Yamulo That would be ideal, truly