As someone who normally rents a suburban when in the US (I’m in U.K.) Last month the Chevy wasn’t available so they gave me the expedition, found the luggage for 5 just fit and just but the comfort for 5 upfront was perfect. I drove 4620 miles from SFO via Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, Nevada and back up highway 1. The thing I noticed was the excellent fuel economy. The next time I’m lucky enough to visit your great country it’ll be the expedition again.
Having worked at GM and Ford dealerships as, not a sales person, but a product specialist, I can say confidently that Ford makes a better product. It’s not even close.
@@plmn93 I’m sorry to hear that. There are some vehicles that have defects when built that cause problems, but you said reliability was ok, I’d compare the f150 to a similar dodge, Toyota, Nissan, from the same year and same trim level. Even GM, while generally a little bit ahead of ford with new technology, has weaker beds, and the technology inside is much more prone to failures. A great example was how quickly GM added wireless charging to their vehicles. You won’t find an original wireless charger from before 2018 in a GM vehicle that still works. They rushed the new feature out either before testing it or they cut corners to make it more affordable, and just like a cheap lightbulb, they’ve burnt out. Ford took their time, and once they introduced the same feature, it will charge through phone cases, and out of hundreds or thousands of vehicles, I haven’t seen one inoperable yet. Now..if we’re comparing Ford’s vehicles to Volvo, Mercedes, or Tesla…of course ford’s going to come up short. But in their class, imho, ford is top of the food chain.
@@richardwhite3521 Well my warped dashboard, freezing door latches, and clunking rear leaf springs tells me Ford sometimes has trouble with the most basic of things. If GM is worse, I just can't imagine how bad they must be. Then there's my previous F-150 which was built better but had the awful 5.4 3V that between the phasers and spark plugs cost me a bundle.
With the second row moving forward thingy, the key point to note is that in the expedition, you can move the seat forward even when there is a child seat hooked up. That is an important thing if you use the third row often..
On our sequoia the second row all 3 seats move independently and it really comes in handy being able to slide those seats with a car seat hooked up. Great feature.
We had that one our piece of shit brand new vw atlas. That feature in theory is good unless it fails when you have your child in their car seat. Our child flung forward when for some reason the bench seat flung forward.
That's a big deal with a 2nd row center console or a bench seat, but with the captains chairs, most kids just run through the middle to the rear seat without moving the 2nd row captains chairs. If adults have to get in the 3rd row occasionally with car seats in the second row, the expedition has a huge advantage.
@@markpitchford7375 True. My use case - we have 2 car seats on each of the window sides of the 2nd row bench. And we occasionally have a grandparent or someone needing to go to the 3rd row. So much easier with a seat that will move with a child seat installed.
2011 Lincoln Navigator. 290k miles. No major repairs. No oil consumption. Smoothest tranny. Even Air suspension all original and works flawlessly. Same exact story with 2 x Lincoln MKTs. 2014. 400K and 450k miles. Both still work. Only suspension work done few times. 3 escalades this summer. 2015-2016. 2 transmissions and all 3 engines. All gone…. Average 150-200k miles. All above vehicles are serviced my same in-house mechanic team. Same drivers constantly switching between these vehicles. Long story short. Going to DMV on Monday to register my brand new expedition. As my personal vehicle. For Myself. I believe that’s a right choice.
The height of the 2nd and 3rd row seats is more on the Expedition, thus making it more comfortable for longer trips and bigger people. Even if leg room is comparable, the height of the seats makes a big difference in comfort. The Expedition is superior in this regard.
I bought the 2021 Tahoe High Country last year - I have put 53,000 miles on it already- no issues whatsoever , best vehicle ever made period ! Comfort, looks , plenty of power ( 420 HP) , quiet , great off-road capability, handling ….there is NOTHING I can think of as far as criticism . I’ve owned Range Rovers , Beemers, Mercedes and Ford this beats them all ! Geez - GMC should pay me for this !! 🤣🤣
Expedition all day long .... better drive, quicker acceleration, better towing capacity, better fuel economy, more room in the third row, using the flip up tray more storage space in the rear with the third row up and frankly better looking (I guess the last one is subjective).
Been in the back of both, and sorry the Expedition third row is not bigger or more comfortable. Ride and drive is subjective to the reviewer and having been with both, you purchase the one you like. I prefer the Tahoe, my daughter the Expedition. Both happy and both win
The Expedition rides like a horse cart compared the Tahoe. And they're the same in acceleration. The torque of the Ecoboost gives a placebo effect of being faster than the Tahoe 6.2
@@victoriachanel2493 We've had ours for 7 months and over 6K miles with no issues. It's a first year vehicle and so something could happen. But that could happen whenever you purchase a new vehicle by and manufacturer. However if you go out to the forums for either vehicle you will find issues. I would say drive both and pick the one that says buy me.
Had one as a loaner while my truck was getting body work done and it sucked. Only has about 9k miles on it too. The trans seemed to always gear hunt on the highway, everytime you let off the throttle the torque converter wpuld unlock so as soon as you pushed it back down the rpms would go up and down. It always shocked me everytime I got out unless I grounded myself to the door jamb first. Went to pass a car on a 2 lane and there was a loud bang, a sound of pins and needles and the dash lit up like a Christmas tree with all kinds of transmission shift errors. Had to hit the brakes because it stopped accelerating all together and pull on to the shoulder until we were down to about 30mph and it sorted itself out. Needless to say passing a car on a 2 lane rd was no longer an option.Even though it was a long wheelbase version the second row seats had to be upright or the 3rd row wouldn't fold. A problem we never had on our sequoia, we could have the 2nd row reclined and the 3rd row would still fold. Also like the roll down glass on the sequoia. The steering was terrible too. Felt like it was spring loaded. Always wanted to snap back to the center. Changing lanes you had to hold on and center the wheel yourself because if you didn't it would snap to the center and the whole truck would swerve. When they came out I thought they were nice. We even considered looking at trading the sequoia for one but after driving it, it just made us appreciate the sequoia that much more. Aside from being a little faster and getting about 2mpg better on the highway, the sequoia was a much better vehicle. These new GMs look nice but their ridiculously overpriced.
I own a 2021 Tahoe High Country - it’s my third Tahoe . I’ve owned 3 S - Class Mercedes , BMW 750 , Range Rovers ….in my opinion the best vehicle I have EVER owned is the new Tahoe with the 6.2 engine - comfort, beauty, power, reliability , practical …..I may be exaggerating and y’all can laugh at me but I’ll go ahead and call it the best vehicle ever produced in history !!!!!!!!!!
With the expedition it feels like you’re driving on air! Nice and simple comfortable interior… The Tahoe has flash and styling … but if you’re on a road trip it’s Expedition - King of the road! Just sit back… relax … and enjoy that ride!
Carlos, that was an excellent dual review: thorough, thoughtful, well spoken and the clarity came without an overabundance of detail. I've been considering both these SUV's for a possible purchase, had considered neither of them quite suited my missions, and your review was very helpful in confirming my reservations. Thank you.
Great review! I upgraded from my Explorer to a Tahoe and have NO regrets. We considered the Expedition but simply preferred the aesthetics and technology of the Tahoe. I still drive my explorer because after 8 years it is still reliable and in perfect condition. I love our Ford vehicles so maybe next go round I’ll get the expedition or a navigator 😊 I should mention I have 3 kids from 5-13 years old who all play sports so the interior room has been a game changer
2011 Lincoln Navigator. 290k miles. No major repairs. No oil consumption. Smoothest tranny. Even Air suspension all original and works flawlessly. Same exact story with 2 x Lincoln MKTs. 2014. 400K and 450k miles. Both still run like champs. Only suspension work has been done few times. 3 escalades this summer. 2015-2016. 2 transmissions and all 3 engines. All gone…. Average 150-200k miles on those units. All above vehicles are serviced By same in-house mechanic team. Same drivers constantly switching between these vehicles. Long story short. Going to DMV on Monday to register my brand new expedition. As my personal vehicle. For Myself. I believe that’s a better choice.
Thank you for your excellent review. I own a 1999 Tahoe LS. I bought it brand new (ordered it from the factory). It’s been a great vehicle but is now 23 years old and has 236,500 miles on it. Because of its age and high mileage, I decided to rent an SUV for a recent 5,000 mile road trip with friends around the southwest starting in Denver and ending in Tucson. Hertz gave me a 2023 Ford Expedition. Wow, I was very impressed with its performance and gas mileage. I got between 19-24 mpg (amazing for a huge, full size SUV). It’s handling was solid, and responsive. It was very roomy with plenty of interior space for our luggage and gear. A very nice vehicle! I’m now looking to replace my old Tahoe, and may go with an Expedition. But before I make any purchase, I’d like to at least test drive a new Tahoe - though so far, there aren’t any in stock. Again, thank you.
If you have kids that use Car Seats, then the Expedition is the best option because it allows a much easier and wider access to the third row. Even with the kids big bulky car seats, the sliding seats of the Expedition make it a pleasure to access any part of the vehicle.
This review was absolutely outstanding! I told myself..."I'm not about to watch a 20 minute video at 1 o'clock am"... Now I'm writing a comment...🤦🏾♂️..lol Job well done! Unfortunately, this video was like an evenly match tug of war which left me slightly undecided...🤷🏾♂️...but I will say I'm leaning toward that boss Chevy. I had a 2017 Chevy Tahoe LTZ and it was perfect. My wife talks about that vehicle more than she talks about me...😂
Carlos !!! you are the best and unique reviewer for cars ,,, I am really interesting watching your videos and what you are giving to us .. please keep it up 👍🏻🥰🏆🎖🥇🏅👏🏻
Bro, you should be in Hollywood, your looks, voice, script memories, but most of all your voice man you're so calm and best in your field as far as i saw during my 10 years searching. Good luck man with your new movie 😅
I just picked up a used 2020 Expedition Platinum Max. It is very sharp in the pearly white and white leather interior. I've yet to see any Tahoe look as attractive. I also appreciate the visibility as mentioned in the video. The slightly lower dash and sloping hood is noticeably better than the higher, more squared off front end/hood of the Tahoe.
@@joshuasyrtash860 the nissan GTR and the older SUPRAS are turbo 6s and no one has EVER complained about either and are two of the most coveted vehicles on market!
Good comparison, important points were mentioned. The differentiation line between the two in regards to power, space, comfort and practicability is very thin. I think whichever a buyer picks for sure won't go wrong
I've been in both and I'm not sure which I preferred. In terms of the seats, I thought the leather quality was better in the Tahoe, but the Expedition's seats were slightly more comfortable for me (6"2, 200 pounds).
Seems to me like the Chevy Tahoe is trying to get their people with gimmicks. The expedition just is what it is and it doesn’t lie to you, and it doesn’t seem to be afraid to do the work.
Like the comparison. Like you said, it is upto the individual in what they want in the vehicle. It is just a pitty we have to get the chevy imported and converted to right hand drive if we want one here in New Zealand. I personally would go the chev Tahoe high country four wheel drive model. At near on 170,000 nz dollars (135,000 u s dollars) it will only be a dream
At these prices these vehicles better be uber reliable. All I know is my 2001 expedition still drives like the day I bought it new in 2000 and she has 300,000 miles. All original driveline, zero problems, zero leaks. Only routine maintenance, rebuilt front suspension and 1 AC compressor over 24+ years. I think I got my moneys worth.
While sitting on the third row seat the visibility towards the sides is very different. On the Expedition you have a much clearer view and feels good. However, on the Tahoe/Suburban the placement and width of the pillar is annoying, you feel like your in a box or tunnel because you really have to turn your head to look outside and it feels somewhat claustrophobic. Having an Expedition my kids that use the 3rd row seat, noted this difference right away and they said they felt the Expedition was much better and confortable.
I've rented both and I agree; they're both very good. The Ecoboost TTV6 is a great roadtrip rig. Just don't expect to save gas over a V8 because it needs large injectors to feed those turbos in boost.
@@AlexN2022 3.5 V6 is not hard to maintain, it's in multiple different Ford products so it's tested and proven and is basically considered one of the best engines for it's category today, it's very reliable as long as you take care of it just as you do any other engine.
Love both vehicles and I'm in the market for a full-size SUV to replace my 2008 Ford Expedition Limited with 206,000 hwy miles. To your point, I do not like that most manufacturers have added an unnecessary complication of something as basic as gear shifting? For the sake of emergency driving and as a former military person, the quickness of shifting from Reverse to Drive can be very important in high-stress situations and is far more seamless with the old shifters (either steering column or center console) as opposed to trying to navigate and commit to muscle memory these tiny new buttons and knobs. Hard to change old habits and that is definitely going to be an annoying change I'll have to adjust to. I wish they would provide the option to have the OLD standard shifters for all new SUV's. Otherwise both of these vehicles look amazing and I enjoyed your thorough review very much. Thanks for the level of detail you provided.
The Chevrolet Tahoe and Suburban, the GMC Yukon and Yukon XL, and the Cadillac Escalade account for 50% of all large SUV sales in the US. GM makes 340,000 of them every year and exports about 80,000 to 31 countries. They’re made in GM’s plant in Arlington, Texas, which is said to be the most profitable assembly plant in the world. We estimate they generate $20 billion in revenue for GM and about $4 billion in profits. Autoline Daily.
@@iggy-pg6gq "A report from JP Morgan says that GMC’s Denali sub-brand generates $6.4 billion in revenue. That’s more than Land Rover and close to Audi. And we’re just talking about a trim line, not the entire GMC lineup." Autoline.
9:12 to get out of the 3rd seat on the tahoe you push the button 2 times and folds and pushes the second row seat up(Not push button then pull the strap), the strap is to manually fold and push away.
Bot a limited expo So good Came out of older Tahoe Put my beast in sport mode Blow doors off Tahoe Including high county Tight steering Amazing upshifts Better tranny, gearing, chassis by gar
GM typically goes much more conservative on towing stats than Ram and Ford. If you tow a lot I would get the Tahoe with the Diesel engine. Just my opinion
I have been a Toyota guy for many years and I have never owned a Ford until this year, and they made a believer out of me. I quit buying or even looking at any thing GM when they took the Government buyout back in 2009.
For large SUV's like these you want good visibility, this includes the visibility through your rear view mirrors. The Tahoe/Suburban has a small mirror even though the mirror housing is large. If you notice GM put a wide frame around the mirror to fill this gap - pointless and useless, they should have made the mirror bigger to fit the mirror housing. The Expedition on the other hand has a much larger mirror that gives you a better view of the vehicle and your surroundings. Better visibility makes for safer driving, and is even more important when hauling a trailer - bigger mirrors on the Expedition are better.
Great review. Thank you. Got a 2021 Tahoe High Country. Have some issues with clicking noise at the dashboard area , passenger side , and noise under the seat.s 3 weeks at the dealer and couldn´t solve it. i put tape and silicone everywhere..... jajajaja
Am in Kuwait now, where this type of vehicles are highly appreciated , and every house should have one of these Amerecan giants, what we care about in Kuwait is 3 things, 1- reliability which go’s to Tahoe, 2- after sale service, which gos to Tahoe too, this is why in kuwait you sale 10 Tahoe’s vs 1 expedition, consequently the third important thing gos to Tahoe, which is 3- resale value , thanks for the awesome video
Both are very nice vehicles and both are way too expensive for a bunch of electrical gimmicks that do nothing to enhance the driving experience. I’ve owned Suburbans for 25 plus years and this particular Ford in the EXT version was extremely powerful and comfortable. The drawback is the hideous mileage the V-6 gets rolling down the roads at 80mph with a full compartment of people and junk. I fully expected 18-20 but only achieved 16. Next on my list was a 21’ Suburban for the next trip. 5.3 with the 10 speed. Very comfortable, very powerful and much better handling. The mileage was a complete surprise. 22 all day long on the same road with the same load. I really wanted to test the diesel but these don’t exist in rental fleets. I certainly couldn’t find one. At the end of the day, I opted for the 2020 suburban. I did give up some handling and electrical gimmicks that do nothing for me. It has a key, column shifter attached to the tried and true 6l80 and the damn engine doesn’t shut off when you stop. (Although the 21’ was seamless when it did turn off and on.) I also saved 15k over the 21’ model. I was fortunate to purchase one before the market went nuts along with the prices and lack of availability of anything. Given this I would probably go with the 20’ suburban again. I did have an opportunity to drive the diesel, which was somewhat disappointing from a power standpoint and the mileage was only 25 mpg, no load, sea level driving with freeway traffic. Certainly not worth the premium cost for diesel that should get at least 28 mpg. Considering it’s a relatively new platform and being a late model GM product, I was never a real consideration.
Hi Carlos, I enjoyed your review of these two SUVs but it would have been really helpful if a reviewer would talk about child seats. How many can you fit, safety features and access. Having third seating that can fit three car seats is important when your a large family. You might be surprised at how few vehicles there are that can do this.
If your kids us Car Seats the Expedition is a much better option because you can access the third row seat just by sliding the seat forward and tilting it, thus giving you a large opening for an adult to jump into the back. On the other hand the Suburban/Tahoe will not allow you to fold or move the seat with enough clearance to jump into the third row. I have an Expedition and 3 kids that use large car seats (2 in the second row + 1 in the third row), we love it. We went to see the Suburban/Tahoe in person but this accessibility is lacking.
Where both of these expensive SUV's fall short is that there is no interior out of sight storage for any small air compressor, tool box, especially in the back tail gate section area.
It’s crazy how many reviews say that it’s tough to achieve the fuel efficiency with the Expedition 3.5L. My experience has been entirely different. I get about 25 mpg driving up to my lake place.
Ecoboosts are very sensitive to speed, wind, and driving habits. My 2.7 F-150 gets 25 at 60 MPH but struggles to hit 20 at 75 MPH. In fact I often get better mileage around town than I do on the Interstate, which is a first in 30 years of car ownership.
18:00 You mention that Expedition's soft seats do not cushion bumps. Late last year I drove cross country in Expedition, 3,000 miles in 4 days. At the end of the fourth day it was just was comfortable as on day 1, and I crossed some crappy roads. My impression from the Tahoe was that the side bolstering was too firm, and I did not understand why. In any case, I liked them both in my own trials, but I would give comfort to Expedition.
This gentleman forgot to mention that this Tahoe clever design feature of its electrical-powered armrest console, doubling as a discreet safe. This innovative compartment, accessible by sliding the console, provided secure storage for valuables like wallets, phones, or even a firearm, thwarting potential break-ins.
That push button shifter is a deal killer for me. I'm not a big fan of rotary shifters, like on the Expedition, but they are far superior to push button shifters.
@@treefity350 As he pointed out at 3:09, it makes going back and forth from drive to reverse needlessly complicated. With a hand lever shifter or a rotary knob you can do it without looking - just turn the knob or pull the lever the appropriate amount of detent clicks and you're where you want to be. You'll always be looking at that push button shifter to see which one you're pushing (or pulling).
@@StephenPaul1160 if you can't figure out how to press some buttons I'm not sure how one would have the mental fortitude to reach a level of income allowing them to afford a $80k SUV and I find that worrying that I share the road with those individuals.
I use to like Tahoe but i got a 2010 expedition limited edition, I change the oil, spark, air filter, coolant let me tell y'all the Expedition woke up n u can feel the power ...Ford expedition all day!!!! day!!
I just bought the Expedition MAX Limited, although I am 100% GMC fan, the new dash on the GMC product specific the big screen thingy is a reminder of what a Toyota Camry has to offer, in fact it’s probably the same product and that’s the one and only reason I took my money to Ford.
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Tahoe For The Win
You should have taken these off road
Neither Dodge Durango Hellcat ..... 😁😁🔥🔥
You're my favorite, Carlos!
@@robarakira Carlos is a legend! Been reading car magazines since 1980 and he is one of my favorites.
As someone who normally rents a suburban when in the US (I’m in U.K.) Last month the Chevy wasn’t available so they gave me the expedition, found the luggage for 5 just fit and just but the comfort for 5 upfront was perfect. I drove 4620 miles from SFO via Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, Nevada and back up highway 1. The thing I noticed was the excellent fuel economy. The next time I’m lucky enough to visit your great country it’ll be the expedition again.
Get the platinum
Having worked at GM and Ford dealerships as, not a sales person, but a product specialist, I can say confidently that Ford makes a better product. It’s not even close.
That’s true
Agree
As an F-150 owner, I have trouble imagining worse build quality in a modern vehicle. Reliability has been OK, I guess.
@@plmn93 I’m sorry to hear that. There are some vehicles that have defects when built that cause problems, but you said reliability was ok, I’d compare the f150 to a similar dodge, Toyota, Nissan, from the same year and same trim level. Even GM, while generally a little bit ahead of ford with new technology, has weaker beds, and the technology inside is much more prone to failures. A great example was how quickly GM added wireless charging to their vehicles. You won’t find an original wireless charger from before 2018 in a GM vehicle that still works. They rushed the new feature out either before testing it or they cut corners to make it more affordable, and just like a cheap lightbulb, they’ve burnt out.
Ford took their time, and once they introduced the same feature, it will charge through phone cases, and out of hundreds or thousands of vehicles, I haven’t seen one inoperable yet.
Now..if we’re comparing Ford’s vehicles to Volvo, Mercedes, or Tesla…of course ford’s going to come up short. But in their class, imho, ford is top of the food chain.
@@richardwhite3521 Well my warped dashboard, freezing door latches, and clunking rear leaf springs tells me Ford sometimes has trouble with the most basic of things. If GM is worse, I just can't imagine how bad they must be. Then there's my previous F-150 which was built better but had the awful 5.4 3V that between the phasers and spark plugs cost me a bundle.
With the second row moving forward thingy, the key point to note is that in the expedition, you can move the seat forward even when there is a child seat hooked up. That is an important thing if you use the third row often..
You can do the same with the Tahoe. We do it all the time in our 2021
On our sequoia the second row all 3 seats move independently and it really comes in handy being able to slide those seats with a car seat hooked up. Great feature.
We had that one our piece of shit brand new vw atlas. That feature in theory is good unless it fails when you have your child in their car seat. Our child flung forward when for some reason the bench seat flung forward.
That's a big deal with a 2nd row center console or a bench seat, but with the captains chairs, most kids just run through the middle to the rear seat without moving the 2nd row captains chairs. If adults have to get in the 3rd row occasionally with car seats in the second row, the expedition has a huge advantage.
@@markpitchford7375 True. My use case - we have 2 car seats on each of the window sides of the 2nd row bench. And we occasionally have a grandparent or someone needing to go to the 3rd row. So much easier with a seat that will move with a child seat installed.
Here i am with a 2011 Tahoe with 171,000 miles on it, and it is still going on strong.
2011 Lincoln Navigator. 290k miles. No major repairs. No oil consumption. Smoothest tranny. Even Air suspension all original and works flawlessly.
Same exact story with 2 x Lincoln MKTs. 2014. 400K and 450k miles. Both still work. Only suspension work done few times.
3 escalades this summer. 2015-2016. 2 transmissions and all 3 engines. All gone…. Average 150-200k miles.
All above vehicles are serviced my same in-house mechanic team. Same drivers constantly switching between these vehicles.
Long story short. Going to DMV on Monday to register my brand new expedition. As my personal vehicle. For Myself. I believe that’s a right choice.
The Expedition Platinum has massaging seats where the Tahoe does not. This helps a ton on long rides!
and it is so much more attractive overall.
The height of the 2nd and 3rd row seats is more on the Expedition, thus making it more comfortable for longer trips and bigger people.
Even if leg room is comparable, the height of the seats makes a big difference in comfort. The Expedition is superior in this regard.
I bought the 2021 Tahoe High Country last year - I have put 53,000 miles on it already- no issues whatsoever , best vehicle ever made period ! Comfort, looks , plenty of power ( 420 HP) , quiet , great off-road capability, handling ….there is NOTHING I can think of as far as criticism . I’ve owned Range Rovers , Beemers, Mercedes and Ford this beats them all !
Geez - GMC should pay me for this !! 🤣🤣
Ford is the much better product and just for kicks that 3.5 liter twin turbo will smoke that 6.2 slug chevy uses.
@@jessicapynn3067 it dose 😂
Wait till your lifters let go near 100K and we’ll talk how reliable it is.
Ford Expedition May Be Okay-But I'll Take The Chevy Tahoe Anytime
Expedition all day long .... better drive, quicker acceleration, better towing capacity, better fuel economy, more room in the third row, using the flip up tray more storage space in the rear with the third row up and frankly better looking (I guess the last one is subjective).
Been in the back of both, and sorry the Expedition third row is not bigger or more comfortable. Ride and drive is subjective to the reviewer and having been with both, you purchase the one you like. I prefer the Tahoe, my daughter the Expedition. Both happy and both win
The Expedition rides like a horse cart compared the Tahoe. And they're the same in acceleration. The torque of the Ecoboost gives a placebo effect of being faster than the Tahoe 6.2
Tahoe has better fuel economy with the Diesel engine
@@jcarbs1671 what about reliability? That's the most important thing for me..thanks!
@@victoriachanel2493 We've had ours for 7 months and over 6K miles with no issues. It's a first year vehicle and so something could happen. But that could happen whenever you purchase a new vehicle by and manufacturer. However if you go out to the forums for either vehicle you will find issues. I would say drive both and pick the one that says buy me.
$80k for a truck, absolute insanity.
Rather spend $80k on a truck and earn it all back plus value than $80k for a car and lose it all after I leave the lot.
@@c.albrow9161 Earn it all back? You must be kidding.
Come to Texas with an $80k truck and I'll prove it
@@c.albrow9161 I live in Texas. It still depreciates
If it doesn’t have a bed, it’s not a truck. That’s why they’re called SUVs!
My wife has the Expedition Max and absolutely loves it. Such an awesome vehicle.
This is one of the best comparisons I seen. Thanks
Get the expedition. It's awesome!
Had one as a loaner while my truck was getting body work done and it sucked. Only has about 9k miles on it too. The trans seemed to always gear hunt on the highway, everytime you let off the throttle the torque converter wpuld unlock so as soon as you pushed it back down the rpms would go up and down. It always shocked me everytime I got out unless I grounded myself to the door jamb first. Went to pass a car on a 2 lane and there was a loud bang, a sound of pins and needles and the dash lit up like a Christmas tree with all kinds of transmission shift errors. Had to hit the brakes because it stopped accelerating all together and pull on to the shoulder until we were down to about 30mph and it sorted itself out. Needless to say passing a car on a 2 lane rd was no longer an option.Even though it was a long wheelbase version the second row seats had to be upright or the 3rd row wouldn't fold. A problem we never had on our sequoia, we could have the 2nd row reclined and the 3rd row would still fold. Also like the roll down glass on the sequoia. The steering was terrible too. Felt like it was spring loaded. Always wanted to snap back to the center. Changing lanes you had to hold on and center the wheel yourself because if you didn't it would snap to the center and the whole truck would swerve. When they came out I thought they were nice. We even considered looking at trading the sequoia for one but after driving it, it just made us appreciate the sequoia that much more. Aside from being a little faster and getting about 2mpg better on the highway, the sequoia was a much better vehicle. These new GMs look nice but their ridiculously overpriced.
I love my 21 Expedition max
Carlos will always be the best cars reviewer on CZcams imo
💯🔥. Carlos was born for this!
I own a 2021 Tahoe High Country - it’s my third Tahoe . I’ve owned 3 S - Class Mercedes , BMW 750 , Range Rovers ….in my opinion the best vehicle I have EVER owned is the new Tahoe with the 6.2 engine - comfort, beauty, power, reliability , practical …..I may be exaggerating and y’all can laugh at me but I’ll go ahead and call it the best vehicle ever produced in history !!!!!!!!!!
I am laughing at you.
With the expedition it feels like you’re driving on air! Nice and simple comfortable interior…
The Tahoe has flash and styling … but if you’re on a road trip it’s Expedition - King of the road!
Just sit back… relax … and enjoy that ride!
Carlos, that was an excellent dual review: thorough, thoughtful, well spoken and the clarity came without an overabundance of detail. I've been considering both these SUV's for a possible purchase, had considered neither of them quite suited my missions, and your review was very helpful in confirming my reservations. Thank you.
What did you end up going with
@@user-uz3ct9ei8l Hybrid F150, called a Powerboost
Great review! I upgraded from my Explorer to a Tahoe and have NO regrets. We considered the Expedition but simply preferred the aesthetics and technology of the Tahoe. I still drive my explorer because after 8 years it is still reliable and in perfect condition. I love our Ford vehicles so maybe next go round I’ll get the expedition or a navigator 😊 I should mention I have 3 kids from 5-13 years old who all play sports so the interior room has been a game changer
Tbh we talk and we believe u r the most independent and objective reviewers out there
This is the best best best beeeest ever comparison I have ever watched on CZcams. Thumps up.
very good review and comparaison, thank you!
2011 Lincoln Navigator. 290k miles. No major repairs. No oil consumption. Smoothest tranny. Even Air suspension all original and works flawlessly.
Same exact story with 2 x Lincoln MKTs. 2014. 400K and 450k miles. Both still run like champs. Only suspension work has been done few times.
3 escalades this summer. 2015-2016. 2 transmissions and all 3 engines. All gone…. Average 150-200k miles on those units.
All above vehicles are serviced By same in-house mechanic team. Same drivers constantly switching between these vehicles.
Long story short. Going to DMV on Monday to register my brand new expedition. As my personal vehicle. For Myself. I believe that’s a better choice.
Great review! Another thing I think worth mentioning… The Expedition has an aluminum body. No rust from winter road salt in the north country.
Thank you for your excellent review.
I own a 1999 Tahoe LS. I bought it brand new (ordered it from the factory). It’s been a great vehicle but is now 23 years old and has 236,500 miles on it. Because of its age and high mileage, I decided to rent an SUV for a recent 5,000 mile road trip with friends around the southwest starting in Denver and ending in Tucson. Hertz gave me a 2023 Ford Expedition. Wow, I was very impressed with its performance and gas mileage. I got between 19-24 mpg (amazing for a huge, full size SUV). It’s handling was solid, and responsive. It was very roomy with plenty of interior space for our luggage and gear. A very nice vehicle!
I’m now looking to replace my old Tahoe, and may go with an Expedition. But before I make any purchase, I’d like to at least test drive a new Tahoe - though so far, there aren’t any in stock.
Again, thank you.
You are very thorough. Probably the best review for these 2 cars.
If you have kids that use Car Seats, then the Expedition is the best option because it allows a much easier and wider access to the third row.
Even with the kids big bulky car seats, the sliding seats of the Expedition make it a pleasure to access any part of the vehicle.
This review was absolutely outstanding! I told myself..."I'm not about to watch a 20 minute video at 1 o'clock am"... Now I'm writing a comment...🤦🏾♂️..lol Job well done! Unfortunately, this video was like an evenly match tug of war which left me slightly undecided...🤷🏾♂️...but I will say I'm leaning toward that boss Chevy. I had a 2017 Chevy Tahoe LTZ and it was perfect. My wife talks about that vehicle more than she talks about me...😂
You mean premier right? ! 😂😂👌🏻
Look at the Yukon Denali. Interior blows away the Ford.
@@zachritter7013 Haha I guess so... overseas they are not referred to as the Premier... only the LTZ
Carlos !!!
you are the best and unique reviewer for cars ,,,
I am really interesting watching your videos
and what you are giving to us ..
please keep it up 👍🏻🥰🏆🎖🥇🏅👏🏻
Bro, you should be in Hollywood, your looks, voice, script memories, but most of all your voice man you're so calm and best in your field as far as i saw during my 10 years searching. Good luck man with your new movie 😅
I rented a expedition max for a family trip. I was pleasantly surprised with the turbo V6. Plenty of power however braking was underwhelming.
You failed to mention the Expedition has a aluminum body - meaning no RUST!
I'll be waiting on a updated video when the Wagoneer arrives
I just picked up a used 2020 Expedition Platinum Max. It is very sharp in the pearly white and white leather interior. I've yet to see any Tahoe look as attractive. I also appreciate the visibility as mentioned in the video. The slightly lower dash and sloping hood is noticeably better than the higher, more squared off front end/hood of the Tahoe.
I feel that both suvs are best in their category, I would personally take the Tahoe because of the 6.2 but the eco boost is a beast too
Ford literally has a eco boost in there supercar
And the Baby Duramax diesel is the next level with 460 ft lbs of torque and 28+ mpg fuel economy in the new GM full-size SUV's.
Taho all the way! Turbo chargers 6 banger ? Really??
I would go with the 3.0 Duramax Diesel for fuel economy and 460 lbs ft. of torque @ only 1500rpm. You can't beat that! Also a 600mi. driving range!
@@joshuasyrtash860 the nissan GTR and the older SUPRAS are turbo 6s and no one has EVER complained about either and are two of the most coveted vehicles on market!
Good comparison, important points were mentioned.
The differentiation line between the two in regards to power, space, comfort and practicability is very thin.
I think whichever a buyer picks for sure won't go wrong
Hey Carlos! I've been watching you for years & you're aging beautifully like the Motorweek guy.
I've been in both and I'm not sure which I preferred. In terms of the seats, I thought the leather quality was better in the Tahoe, but the Expedition's seats were slightly more comfortable for me (6"2, 200 pounds).
You failed to mention the rear view mirror camera . It is fabulous ! Patty
Great review, thanks! I’m #TeamGMC, but acknowledge the rental Expedition max I had was pretty equal.
Expedition is nice but not a fan of turbo V6. I have the 04 Ford Expedition 5.4 3v still going strong 💪
Seems to me like the Chevy Tahoe is trying to get their people with gimmicks. The expedition just is what it is and it doesn’t lie to you, and it doesn’t seem to be afraid to do the work.
I hate when vehicles lie to me!!
Very good comparison mentioning important points and details
Thank you
From the old continent of the tiny, too tiny SUVs-like
The rotary shifter is super convenient to use, makes shifting effortless
Like the comparison. Like you said, it is upto the individual in what they want in the vehicle. It is just a pitty we have to get the chevy imported and converted to right hand drive if we want one here in New Zealand. I personally would go the chev Tahoe high country four wheel drive model. At near on 170,000 nz dollars (135,000 u s dollars) it will only be a dream
At these prices these vehicles better be uber reliable. All I know is my 2001 expedition still drives like the day I bought it new in 2000 and she has 300,000 miles. All original driveline, zero problems, zero leaks. Only routine maintenance, rebuilt front suspension and 1 AC compressor over 24+ years. I think I got my moneys worth.
While sitting on the third row seat the visibility towards the sides is very different. On the Expedition you have a much clearer view and feels good. However, on the Tahoe/Suburban the placement and width of the pillar is annoying, you feel like your in a box or tunnel because you really have to turn your head to look outside and it feels somewhat claustrophobic.
Having an Expedition my kids that use the 3rd row seat, noted this difference right away and they said they felt the Expedition was much better and confortable.
Thank you for sharing this. These are the little things that are hard to learn before a purchase.
NOT A FAIR COMPARISON if you going to use High country for Tahoe you should use King Ranch for expedition
Go for the Duramax 3.0 diesel in the Tahoe! Great motor.
The Ford Expedition looks better to Me but, I am a biased Ford Owner🤷🏽♂️
I've rented both and I agree; they're both very good.
The Ecoboost TTV6 is a great roadtrip rig.
Just don't expect to save gas over a V8 because it needs large injectors to feed those turbos in boost.
Well more power, performance and very similar fuel economy makes it worth it to most buyers.
@@JC71444 but also more maintenance and (remains to be seen) worse longevity.. It's still a wash
@@AlexN2022 3.5 V6 is not hard to maintain, it's in multiple different Ford products so it's tested and proven and is basically considered one of the best engines for it's category today, it's very reliable as long as you take care of it just as you do any other engine.
Love my Expedition!! It’s a dream compared to my 2018 Tahoe.
I agree, your 2018 Tahoe was very inferior to the Expedition. But I think the 2021 will surprise you as it did me.
I ordered an Expedition, so glad to see your comment. I can't wait for it to get here!
You just made my decision so much easier! Ford Expedition it is!
Yeeeeaaaa but after comparing it to the 2021 Tahoe, I’m sticking with Chevy
@@tjhouston1280 Yeaaaaaaaaa after the amount of problems my family has had with Chevy over the years, I’m sticking with Ford
Beautiful scenery and beautiful cars!! This looks like CA but where exactly? So lovely there!
Still love my 1998 Eddie Bauer with the 5.4L Triton and AWD, 4H 4L Modes. Still drives like new.
Everything still works and no plans to replace it.
Love both vehicles and I'm in the market for a full-size SUV to replace my 2008 Ford Expedition Limited with 206,000 hwy miles. To your point, I do not like that most manufacturers have added an unnecessary complication of something as basic as gear shifting? For the sake of emergency driving and as a former military person, the quickness of shifting from Reverse to Drive can be very important in high-stress situations and is far more seamless with the old shifters (either steering column or center console) as opposed to trying to navigate and commit to muscle memory these tiny new buttons and knobs. Hard to change old habits and that is definitely going to be an annoying change I'll have to adjust to. I wish they would provide the option to have the OLD standard shifters for all new SUV's. Otherwise both of these vehicles look amazing and I enjoyed your thorough review very much. Thanks for the level of detail you provided.
The Chevrolet Tahoe and Suburban, the GMC Yukon and Yukon XL, and the Cadillac Escalade account for 50% of all large SUV sales in the US. GM makes 340,000 of them every year and exports about 80,000 to 31 countries. They’re made in GM’s plant in Arlington, Texas, which is said to be the most profitable assembly plant in the world. We estimate they generate $20 billion in revenue for GM and about $4 billion in profits. Autoline Daily.
Copy and paste much?!?!?.........
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"A report from JP Morgan says that GMC’s Denali sub-brand generates $6.4 billion in revenue. That’s more than Land Rover and close to Audi. And we’re just talking about a trim line, not the entire GMC lineup." Autoline.
9:12 to get out of the 3rd seat on the tahoe you push the button 2 times and folds and pushes the second row seat up(Not push button then pull the strap), the strap is to manually fold and push away.
4:51 best phone case ever. The cameras are to be the bazooka missiles Arnold Is holding. Super cools case I want one for my iPhone 12 mini.
Tahoe for me! Or maybe Yukon Denali
Thank you for great review!
It's the expedition for me since it's familiar to the F-150
I'm personally will always go for the expedition
Bot a limited expo
So good
Came out of older Tahoe
Put my beast in sport mode
Blow doors off Tahoe Including high county
Tight steering
Amazing upshifts
Better tranny, gearing, chassis by gar
Towing capacity is a very important factor so the ford expedition is my 🏆to me and my family
GM typically goes much more conservative on towing stats than Ram and Ford. If you tow a lot I would get the Tahoe with the Diesel engine. Just my opinion
I have been a Toyota guy for many years and I have never owned a Ford until this year, and they made a believer out of me. I quit buying or even looking at any thing GM when they took the Government buyout back in 2009.
For large SUV's like these you want good visibility, this includes the visibility through your rear view mirrors.
The Tahoe/Suburban has a small mirror even though the mirror housing is large. If you notice GM put a wide frame around the mirror to fill this gap - pointless and useless, they should have made the mirror bigger to fit the mirror housing.
The Expedition on the other hand has a much larger mirror that gives you a better view of the vehicle and your surroundings. Better visibility makes for safer driving, and is even more important when hauling a trailer - bigger mirrors on the Expedition are better.
Great review. Thank you. Got a 2021 Tahoe High Country. Have some issues with clicking noise at the dashboard area , passenger side , and noise under the seat.s 3 weeks at the dealer and couldn´t solve it. i put tape and silicone everywhere..... jajajaja
My neighbors cousin sister-in-law best friend from 3rd grade named Grace has the Tahoe and she loves the power behind the wheel and new design.
Am in Kuwait now, where this type of vehicles are highly appreciated , and every house should have one of these Amerecan giants, what we care about in Kuwait is 3 things, 1- reliability which go’s to Tahoe, 2- after sale service, which gos to Tahoe too, this is why in kuwait you sale 10 Tahoe’s vs 1 expedition, consequently the third important thing gos to Tahoe, which is 3- resale value , thanks for the awesome video
إحصائيات من باطك
@@sy-xs4bc يظهر انك وكيل فورد في الكويت، و الا عندك اكسبديشين و تبي تبيعه، عطنا احصائياتك الموثقة لو سمحت، و ساعتها نغير راينا
الله يصلحك انا ماعندي فورد ولا عمري شريته بعدين وش جاب طاري الفورد في الموضوع؟!
بوجه لك نفس السؤال عطني إحصائية على كلامك
كلامك صحيح بخصوص القيمه وقت البيع.
ولكن للأمانه الاكسبديشن اكثر صار من التاهو واليوكن بالشارع والسبب فرق السعر.
الاكسبديشن 11.500
والتاهو 14.000
Great job on both Vehicles, one question do they come with spare tires
Even though i’m a stand for Chevy, the wheel design isn’t acceptable. The Ford Expedition looks better.
Tahoe all day!
Yup my father owns one tahoe
Both are very nice vehicles and both are way too expensive for a bunch of electrical gimmicks that do nothing to enhance the driving experience. I’ve owned Suburbans for 25 plus years and this particular Ford in the EXT version was extremely powerful and comfortable. The drawback is the hideous mileage the V-6 gets rolling down the roads at 80mph with a full compartment of people and junk. I fully expected 18-20 but only achieved 16. Next on my list was a 21’ Suburban for the next trip. 5.3 with the 10 speed. Very comfortable, very powerful and much better handling. The mileage was a complete surprise. 22 all day long on the same road with the same load. I really wanted to test the diesel but these don’t exist in rental fleets. I certainly couldn’t find one.
At the end of the day, I opted for the 2020 suburban. I did give up some handling and electrical gimmicks that do nothing for me. It has a key, column shifter attached to the tried and true 6l80 and the damn engine doesn’t shut off when you stop. (Although the 21’ was seamless when it did turn off and on.) I also saved 15k over the 21’ model. I was fortunate to purchase one before the market went nuts along with the prices and lack of availability of anything.
Given this I would probably go with the 20’ suburban again. I did have an opportunity to drive the diesel, which was somewhat disappointing from a power standpoint and the mileage was only 25 mpg, no load, sea level driving with freeway traffic. Certainly not worth the premium cost for diesel that should get at least 28 mpg. Considering it’s a relatively new platform and being a late model GM product, I was never a real consideration.
Love the Tahoe
Tahoe interior probably nicer, but I preferred driving the Expedition, which didn’t feel quite as cumbersome to maneuver (even MAX vs. regular Tahoe).
Iv got the 2020 expedition max. It's not fancy like the chevy. But it's extremely more convenient.
Hi Carlos,
I enjoyed your review of these two SUVs but it would have been really helpful if a reviewer would talk about child seats. How many can you fit, safety features and access. Having third seating that can fit three car seats is important when your a large family. You might be surprised at how few vehicles there are that can do this.
Great suggestion! I agree!
If your kids us Car Seats the Expedition is a much better option because you can access the third row seat just by sliding the seat forward and tilting it, thus giving you a large opening for an adult to jump into the back.
On the other hand the Suburban/Tahoe will not allow you to fold or move the seat with enough clearance to jump into the third row.
I have an Expedition and 3 kids that use large car seats (2 in the second row + 1 in the third row), we love it. We went to see the Suburban/Tahoe in person but this accessibility is lacking.
Where both of these expensive SUV's fall short is that there is no interior out of sight storage for any small air compressor, tool box, especially in the back tail gate section area.
My first choice would still be the Canyonero. 65 tons of American pride!
It’s crazy how many reviews say that it’s tough to achieve the fuel efficiency with the Expedition 3.5L. My experience has been entirely different. I get about 25 mpg driving up to my lake place.
Ecoboosts are very sensitive to speed, wind, and driving habits. My 2.7 F-150 gets 25 at 60 MPH but struggles to hit 20 at 75 MPH. In fact I often get better mileage around town than I do on the Interstate, which is a first in 30 years of car ownership.
18:00 You mention that Expedition's soft seats do not cushion bumps. Late last year I drove cross country in Expedition, 3,000 miles in 4 days. At the end of the fourth day it was just was comfortable as on day 1, and I crossed some crappy roads. My impression from the Tahoe was that the side bolstering was too firm, and I did not understand why. In any case, I liked them both in my own trials, but I would give comfort to Expedition.
Do 3rd row windows open in Ford Expedition? Controls in 3rd row or driver controls?
As for my choice, I would go for Ford Expedition.
I like videos like this.
This gentleman forgot to mention that this Tahoe clever design feature of its electrical-powered armrest console, doubling as a discreet safe. This innovative compartment, accessible by sliding the console, provided secure storage for valuables like wallets, phones, or even a firearm, thwarting potential break-ins.
The Tahoe/Suburban is my dream car, and this only helps me reassure that dream 😂😂
That push button shifter is a deal killer for me. I'm not a big fan of rotary shifters, like on the Expedition, but they are far superior to push button shifters.
What's the problem with push button shifter?
@@treefity350 As he pointed out at 3:09, it makes going back and forth from drive to reverse needlessly complicated. With a hand lever shifter or a rotary knob you can do it without looking - just turn the knob or pull the lever the appropriate amount of detent clicks and you're where you want to be. You'll always be looking at that push button shifter to see which one you're pushing (or pulling).
@@StephenPaul1160 if you can't figure out how to press some buttons I'm not sure how one would have the mental fortitude to reach a level of income allowing them to afford a $80k SUV and I find that worrying that I share the road with those individuals.
@@treefity350 OK - try to do a three point turn without looking at the shifter in the Tahoe. Let me know how it goes.
Don't hear any complaints from Ford guys on the Navigator having push button gear selectors.
I use to like Tahoe but i got a 2010 expedition limited edition, I change the oil, spark, air filter, coolant let me tell y'all the Expedition woke up n u can feel the power ...Ford expedition all day!!!! day!!
Hi from Venezuela 🇻🇪
Excellent review of both vehicles. Have to lean toward the Tahoe-6.2 liter is a great engine. Can’t beat the comfort and handling!
2WD Tahoe with diesel for me. I won’t be buying one anytime soon but that would be my choice.
buy it with 4wd because that duramax can burn rubber lol
Which one will last longer is what I want to know
80,000 dollars, I just bought the nicest car I've ever owned for 5000 bucks, 2004 grand Cherokee with low mileage and not a scratch on it
Are you super cereal
I just bought the Expedition MAX Limited, although I am 100% GMC fan, the new dash on the GMC product specific the big screen thingy is a reminder of what a Toyota Camry has to offer, in fact it’s probably the same product and that’s the one and only reason I took my money to Ford.
That compartment that you put bag of candy in is really designed for sunglasses because it is felt lined.
I drive both almost everyday for the last 7 months. Perfer the Expedition hands down.
9:14 you could also just press the button 2 times and it will completely open the seat
Tahoe please 😁
"These SUVs start at really attractive base prices" ($51K) hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, damn that is funny.
Compared to the 80k that the testers cost 50 ain't bad! But yes truck prices are ridiculous
Mi preferencia es la GMC Yukón pero entre estas dos el hermoso sonido del V8 me inclina a la Chevy.