Swedish third tier team Torns IF find offside rule loophole
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Swedish third tier team Torns IF have found a creative way to create one-on-ones with the goalkeeper.
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It's based on a rule found on page 93 in the Laws of the Game stating that "the first point of contact of the ‘play’ or ‘touch’ of the ball” should be used when judging offside, although it might not be straightforward to outwit defences. In light of this finding, the International Football Association Board have agreed to review the wording of Law 11.
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"Adam you're our most gifted technical player. Can you place the ball on top of your foot and keep it there?" No, apparently not. 😂
funny that the whole video is a joke and got attention from governing bodies haha
I tried, I'm sorry.
Ballon D'Off winnder
even i could do that without flaw
Gives me hope to be a 3rd division footballer😂
Seems very difficult to pull off. Hope to see some wild offside goals this season
This is ingenious but I don't think it will work in a live match as the defenders won't ever allow a player that much time on the ball for this to be effective.
A player on the other team could just come over and knock it off his foot
@@Duckiman did you honestly think this was a serious video? Obviously it wouldn't work in an actual game
@@pandadoublexl It's in realms of possibility. I think the easiest way to use this loophole would be to receive the ball on the ground with your back to goal and then do a 180 degree scoop turn, keeping constant contact between your foot and the ball while doing the 180 and sending the ball towards the goal at the end of your turn.
Not at all pretty much any player in a top league or even a low league can balance the ball on their foot
Makes sense because even for a normal pass contact with the ball isn’t instantaneous, just very quick. And they always go with the moment of contact. Would love to see someone pull this off and the VAR meltdown before it’s banned
Why ban it though? It's so hard to do, if you can make this work on the pitch then it should be worth 2 goals i'd say
It'd be a new refereeing jurisprudence, so it must involve France.
@@AndyLowe-netit's really not hard to do lol, especially for top-tier players. The guy in the vid could probably do it easily too if they weren't joking around
@@AndyLowe-net They might not ban it, just adjust the wording so it's about when contact with the ball is suspended rather than the ambiguous wording of "first contact".
Oh, so this is what the antony spin is for 😂😂
He is maybe the Chosen One. The one to make the epic assist
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He was a visionary, but United fans killed his confidence smh.
@@Chip_Fuse if he passed instead of shot, we would have won the quadruple. the vision was there, but the path wasnt
Incredibly ingenious. I don't know how they can pull this off in the middle of a game with all the movement.
If the goalkeeper does this however, he might have a bit more time on the ball to pull it off before launching it 80 yards up the pitch 😅
@@JoshAston23 Alireza Biranvand threw the ball from his area to the other teams area, so that would be ideal. Just play short around your own box, flick it up and head it back to the keeper to catch, meanwhile have two players straying deep offside, completely unnoticed, then boom, long throw.
@@TheDandonian only issue is, I'm pretty sure there is a rule against flicking the ball up and heading it to your GK otherwise teams would keep doing that to timewaste
Just give that ball to Messi and run towards the goal
you could also probably drag the ball along whole you hop with your other foot and then scoop the ball forward to make the pass
Theoretically this is possible, but let's be honest, if you did this, 99% of linesman would call it offside before you could even score
If the player ignores it and scores, VAR can count the goal. Think of that one JonJo Shelvey goal (idk if I spelt that correctly)
Not if the ref whistles before he scores @@MCart1215
@@MCart1215why wouldn’t you just take two seconds to google his name instead of saying “idk if that’s spelt correctly”
You wouldn’t even have to load the the page just type it in and it would auto suggest after a few letters
@@smallarmskepa4390he might be on mobile?
@@smallarmskepa4390 Sometimes you just don't have the motivation to close yt and go search the correct way to write something
Morata about to become Top Scorer this season
and Richarlyson
Football boot brands should design a shoe that could balance the ball. Like a cup design on top-aft of the toes. 😆
you can do it with a little bit of practice its not super hard
Lots of player can do that
heck i can even hold it for 10 seconds or more before my foot gon numb 😅
But balancing a ball on your foot is super easy already haha
IT would go to VAR and we would all age waiting for a decision
We don't have VAR in Sweden
@@clanker3967 :0
If it is COMENBOL you receive the VAR response by mail within a month.
Free kick exploit: one player stands on the ball while the taker kicks it. In the post-whistle interim, other runners can take up positions behind the defensive wall. If the defenders are alert, they could rush at the ball while it's being stood upon.
Could the first player just place a foot on top of the ball and then have a second kick it (similar to how a FG is taken in American football). The first touch would be the offside touch and the second would be the pass. would this also circumvent an indirect kick? Is it two simultaneous touches?
No, this wouldn't be legal. The runners are offside at the time the taker touches the ball. The fact that another player is also touching the ball is irrelevant.
@@mrchewbacahimself7807 This wouldn't work - it wouldn't cancel offside (see above) and it also wouldn't circumvent an indirect kick. The rule states that the ball is in play when "the ball is kicked and clearly moves", so the first player is irrelevant. If he moves the ball, then it does circumvent an indirect kick (and this is even done sometimes), but again doesn't cancel offside.
Antony can spin and scoop a pass to Rashford 20 feet offside with this trick 😂
So technically a Goalkeeper could throw a ball from one side of the pitch to the other and no one could be offside as long as they were onside when the ball was picked up? Basically an impossible feat but interesting nonetheless lol
Now I know why Salah is not offside when he is assisted by Alisson Becker, thank you mate
And you cant be offside when its throw in. But few teams take advantage of that
You also can only be offside in the opposition half, not your own half.
@@SamxJxPx1993hold my beer
Can’t be offside from a goal kick anyway lol
I'm a ref and yeah, it would be from the start of when he started balancing it on his foot that the offside position is judged of his teammate
Linesman will call it offside and VAR won't know the rules because they're incompetent, so the goal will be offside.
Anthony gonna spin till every united player goes onside and release the ball.
This will be the next Willie Carr (remember him?) moment. EPL teams will be working on this for next weekend
Yes, Willie Carr, then the volley. Brilliant move.
Came here to mention that free kick - well done!
Except that manoeuver was banned afterwards, as I recall.
so, this is the Var criteria for offsides, they review the first frame when the foot touches the ball
Looks like fun training session brilliant 😝
This certainly highlights why VAR should not be checking offsides to within millimeters - the same degree of accuracy cannot be equally applied to the moment the ball leaves the foot or head of the passer. Also a ball squashes on contact. Unless they don’t show it on TV, VAR does not zoom in on the foot of the player passing the ball to check there is the same millimetre of space between ball and foot.
Decimal points cannot be invented if they don’t exist in the original data.
The offside rule applies to the moment of contact, not the moment of release.
No, it does not.
@@martin6123 it is the moment of release u joker, what sport have u been watching pal?
@@flexline5274literally in the video you're commenting on.
Yeah? Pray tell then, where do we draw the line?
Well they have been inplementing the rule incorrectly. It was always enforced when the ball leaves your body part you are allowed to play with.
Because no one has ever done this before so the point of contact is always the point at which the ball is hit anyway
@@0Bennyman there will always be some delay between when the first and last contact though, and it is enough to change quite a few goals throughout the history of var...
@@AB-gb6zz There's not enough frame data between those two events, if you often look VAR flick between frames around the contact and you can see one frame is where the ball is in contact with the boot and the next frame it's already left.
If the premier league was broadcasted at 100fps this would be a different story.
@@hedgehog11953 I didn't say it was feasible for most passes. I simply corrected the claim that the "point of contact is always the point at which the ball is hit anyway".
I agree, it looks to me like they try to find the last frame where the ball is still touching the passer, not the first. Often with one-time passes there isn't more than frame, yes, but quite a few times there is, especially on a through ball which takes a softer touch and isn't smashed with force
I play for Torns IF
Are you in the video
@@j-roc6989 No I don't play in the team for adults I play in the F 12/13
@@OlympiaMandMs har ni testat det här på match?
@@danialkhan3959 Vi kör inte med offside men vi gjorde det en gång på träningen
@@OlympiaMandMs jaha, då förstår jag.
There are enough players who could quite easily scoop ball onto foot & hold it there to flick it forward 20-30 metres though, would be interesting to see!
“Hold it there” whilst the opposition stand still ?
they could do a scoop pass, keep the ball touching the food on the floor, easy to do, and scoop the ball to your team mate, or you could just drag the ball
... but VAR lines it up with the moment the ball leaves the boot......
This is a funny concept but what's even more funny is a third tier football player having that much trouble balancing the ball on his foot lol
It's just for comedy, of course he can balance the ball on his foot :D
this was quite the hilarious skit
This seems like the palming ball dribble rule in BB.
You can skip normal dribble as long as your hand on the bottom or side of ball after you receive or normal dribble.
In this case, as long as your foot and the ball are not magnet, this cannot be a possible situation.
Unless you're Kerlon.
Nice
Or you could just place your foot on the side of the ball then push it through....
Exactly. No need to put it in the air
You wouldn't get any power behind the ball that way, without breaking contact with the ball
you put your foot next to the ball touching it , and an other player comes and kicks your foot with the ball, he technically didnt touch the ball, and he can put some power to it. :D
I always thought it was the moment the ball left the boot
A pass is made with any part of the body. Not just the boot.
@@RefereeChannelYou sure about the any part bit?
@@randlepmcmurphy6117
Well with goalkeepers and throw ins yes.
@@jakemartinez6894 Throwing the ball isn’t a pass. 😂 in the NFL maybe, but football no!
@@randlepmcmurphy6117
So both the English language basic reasoning evade you…
explain more. still dont get it
according to the laws of the game, the offside determination is made at the point the ball is first touched, if you are onside at this point then you can go anywhere to receive the ball and still be onside. The loophole is the law never says how much time is allowed to elapse between the first touch and release. In practice, the release is almost instantaneous, unless you do this weird balance-the-ball first touch, then release the ball from the balance way later.
In this case, a player can balance the ball (first touch), then his teammate in an onside position can move to an offside position, then the player can release the ball to him, and the play will be considered onside because the teammate who received the ball was onside way back when the first touch (balancing the ball) was made.
@@MoviesUnderTheSurfaceThanks for your Explanation, but i still don't get it and I'm watching football for almost 30 years, maybe i'm too dumb for this 'masterpiece'
@@narrator_7 So the rule basically states that whether or not a player is offside is determined when the ball first touches the player that's passing the ball. In almost every realistic case, the ball leaves a passer's foot in the initial contact between the passer's foot and the ball.
However, this creates a loophole like in the video. If the passer's foot stays in contact with the ball, then the time of the initial contact of the ball and when the ball leaves the passer's feet is different.
Imagine if the passer receives the ball and no one else is offside. The passer controls the ball in a way that his feet never leaves the ball, or in other words the passer's feet always stays in contact with the ball. Because the rule states that offside positions are determined on the initial contact and no one is offside when the passer receives the ball, no one CAN be offside until the passer stops touching the ball. So, the passer stays in contact with the ball, and a teammate makes a run forward beyond the last defender. Normally, this would be offside, but because the teammate is still onside when the passer first touched the ball and the passer is still touching the ball right now, he is still considered onside according to the rules.
This is the most Swedish thing I ever saw
No mate, I've seen a Viking, eating Meatballs, in Ikea......... now that's the most Swedish thing ever!
@@nickmaclachlan5178 But meatballs are originally from Turkey...
@@Jake-vh6jpYes and no. Swedish meatballs are not from Turkey. Köfte are. Swedish meatballs are inspired by Köfte sure, but they are still two quite different things. It is Swedish meatballs that are world famous, and they honestly taste much better. They took the “meatball” concept and improved it.
Contact there means a pass to your team mate. Only loop hole is the word first, it is literally irrelevant in the rule as there can only be one final contact to give the ball away
I'm sure someone has already thought of this but deemed it virtually impossible to pull off in any meaningful way so just ignored it.
couldn't you keep contact on the ball on the ground and sweep it forward
Pippo Inzaghi : I don't need these gibberish 😏
Do a Cuauhtemoc Blanco pass.
Ishowspeed becoming the goat
Antony’s having a field day when he finds this video
I thought they look at point when ball leaves your foot not when ball comes to your foot
They dont
Clever idea.
Isn't the "first point of contact" the moment the ball lands on a player's foot - NOT the moment it leaves??
That's the point of the video.
Would this apply if someone brings down the ball with their chest and then volleys a lob pass without letting the ball hit the ground?
No, the chest is considered one touch and the pass is the next. It doesn't matter if the ball doesn't touch the ground.
I also found a loophole, that is referees in England
for those who don't speak swedish, it's so clearly a skit🤣
Sign me up!
Coaches and Players should pull out the rules book in matches.
That is awesome
If the receiver of the pass is offside when the guy balancing the ball first touches it, then surely he’s still offside (or even more offside) when he receives it?!
Correct. The point is to make the opposite. Start onside and receive it ”offside” but not being offside because you were onside when the touch began.
Thanks@@RefereeChannel I thought I knew offside rule well but turned out I don't know this fundamental rule. I'm still confused though haha
Brazil national tram finna go wild with these
It's when the ball leaves the foot.
Putting your foot on the ball would work the same?
Actually quite clever.
It's when the ball leaves your foot
Incorrect. The law is clear: 11.2: ”The first point of contact of the ‘play’ or ‘touch’ of the ball should be used.”
Genius 😱
It's not the FIRST point of contact, is it? It's the moment he passes the ball to the other player.
Someone must try this in a real match
Nice
At which point of the video we had to laugh ?
I know this video is just a joke, but in case anyone here thinks that it‘s really a loophole, this would never work in a real match, therefore it‘s a non issue.
could easily work, just needs the ball on his foot for 2 or 3 seconds, attacker can get a few metres advantage, scoop pass, job done
@@tomb9625 No referee would not call the offside even if it's technically not an offside. So no, it won't work in reality.
@@92brunod not if the var uses gar (google assisted referee)
@@92brunodwould go to VAR and be overturned because the rules are the rules
I imagine it can work in corners or throw-ins in tight corners, you balance the ball and pass it to a teammate who runs past the defense. Worst case it's a time wasting tactic lol
Didn't Kerlon used to do something like this,? dribble the ball on his head all the way, opponents have no choice but to foul him to get the ball
If Ronaldinho never did it, I can't believe that it's legal.
Can we not go back to the offside rule of 40 years ago? It was so much simpler then and everyone not only understood the rules but also didn't have to stand/sit around for several minutes wondering whether a goal could be celebrated. Also, the lino flag went up immediately not 30 seconds later and 30 yards down the field. I mean. how freaking stooopid is that? Players make tackles that needn't be made; someone is going to get seriously hurt one of these days because of the ridiculous rules.
CL winners in the making
Reading the rules the way they do you wouldn't need to have the ball above ground either as long as you're touching the ball, meaning that you could also do this exploit with a ground pass. That would be much easier as well. I might be wrong but going off the sentence they've circled in red you wouldn't even need Adams world class technical abilities for this.
The subtitles are pretty off.
But to be fair it’s hard for Swedes to understand Scanian dialect , so do I really expect The Guardian to do it 😕?
Luis Diaz enters the chat.
Torns IF vs Grêmio do Magarça
I can just imagine Odegaard getting the ball in an open space and playing martinelli
What is Ter Stegen doing there
I would love to see it, but you would need someone like Messi to pull it off
i dont get it
Maybe the ball haven't touched the grass
1. Im 'murcan. 2. I have only reffed @ rec. League lvls. If sum1 balanced the ball as shown, & teammate flew past the d, then w/o breakin contact the ball was passed by law 11 yea im allowin play on. (& lord knows how much screamin from the opponent im absorbin but we can hav that argument)
Hes not wrong
is this true?
First point of contact means what body part, not how long it touches it for…
Incorrect.
That’s not a loophole in any way. The law is written that way. As a referee I have known this all the time.
i bet the refs would disallow it anyway because they don't know the rules
Here’s why you need Ronaldinho
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Swedish Third Tier Football System Is Ettan If You Remember :)
Bring back Inzaghi
😅
They would just change the rule pointless!!!! The off side rule was originally to stop goal hangers!!! You know those Those lazy players who cant be be arsed!!!!
Im pretty sure holding the ball in any way like that is illegal
Is that stated in the rules?
Huh?😂
Jor jor se bolke logo ko scheme batade.
should be errated
its against the rules to hold the ball like that:)
No. It is legal.
@@GoMrTom it is legal if you play on your backyard. Not in any professional league
Nope, sorry, he is still offside at the moment of "play"
I want my 01:18 seconds back.
At least their swedes not mullahs
bro had to pull up with the blonde hair and blue eyes 😂