SF/SH37 & JA37 VIGGEN at F13 Wing (English Subtitles)
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- Episode 5 "The Pilots and the Planes they flew: The Monster-machine" by NT24, Norrköpings Tidningar. A mini documentary of the SF/SH37 and the JA37 operations at F13 Bråvalla Airforce Wing during the Cold War.
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Beaches being raked in Soviet Union is not a myth. I have seen it. To be fair, i have seen the result not the process itself. So i don't know the actual purpose or if it was done by men in uniform. But realistically, what other purpose could it have served? Considering the paranoia of the time i find it plausible even if hardly useful. Even as a kid i was wondering "but what if the spy rakes the sand behind himself?"
007 with licens to rake...
In the Baltic states might it have been amber collection?
To detect defectors trying to leave by boat.
@@SonsOfLorgar I guess a defector would just bring a rake.... so this whole thing sounds a bit strange to me to be honest :)
@@SonsOfLorgar Or to spot there are intruders.
I am French. I am an aviation fan and I went several times to Lynkjoping where I had the privilege to see this bird for real. What a beast. Raw power, beautiful. I miss it. Too bad it was hanging up out of reach in the ceiling of the museum and too dark in winter to see the other one outside. Never mind, I also visited the goteborg museum too. I love the Saab aircrafts. Hats off to swedish engineers for a legacy of great machines.
God bless you. Yepp, the swedish engineers are one of a kind. As is the french, of course. Viggen (AJS 37 is a beast, or was...). (Btw, it is Linköping ;-) )
There's a swedish group of enthusiasts that during the past 10 years have stored two viggens to flying condition and they regularly fly them at airshows througout europe, keep an eye out for them. (Swedish Air Force Historic Flight) They also operate two J35 Drakens, J29 Tunnan, A32 Lansen etc. :-)
@@RaXXha thanks for the tip, I watched numerous videos on these. I have to say that I also love the Draken, the Lansen and the Tunnan little brothers The 105 and the Safir are nice too.
Cheers from a Mirage 2000 mechanic. Viggen is such an interesting aircraft. If you live in France, go into the Montélimar museum, they have a very beautiful SK-37.
Bon du coup tu parles français. Si jamais il y'a encore au moins un Viggen qui vole. J'habite en Suisse et il ya souvent des petits meeting aériens ici et parfois des beaucoup plus gros. Bref tout 4a pour dire que l'été dernier, en 2019, il y'a un vigie qui était passé au Zigermeet à Mollis. Il ya les vidéos sur youtube. Sur ce, Tcho
Both the draken and the viggen are some of the most beautiful aircraft to ever fly !
The Swedish armed forces during the Cold War era is a fascinating subject, so many incredibly designed fighting machines. Thanks for the video!
Hehe, then you should see the tunnels and underground bases and fortresses they built. They had one base 1 km down into the rock hanged up on suspenders designed to survive a direct nuclear hit, for example. They had one entire military harbor (Muskö) in granite caverns.
hi there - You do know- we only had 2 (two) right ?
@@TeamDriftEVO 2 of what? Nuclear "proofed" bunkers or domestic plane designs? Neither is correct. AFAIK all of the Stric bunkers were on springs, muskö, and several others. Several are still classified, although i don't think any of the command posts are still in use.
@@TzunSu Muskö is being brought back into service, our Navy command is stationed there as of 2019.
Before we went full blown pussies. Yes those were the days.
Minns än i dag när jag var 15-16 år och satte plantskog i Orsa finnmark. Vi satte plant högt upp på ett berg och två viggen passerade under oss. Det var jäkligt mäktigt, ljudet, farten och att de flög så pass lågt. Samtalet resten av den tiden handlade enbart om viggen.
Serious well trained men flying a solid platform. Have my respect.
Interesting perspectives from the pilots. And such a wonderful aircraft too! Thanks for the upload
DCS took me here. I love flying the Viggen!
YES!
So the gripen is why we can't fly the ja37
@@Dilla2k9theres really no big diffrence. The a2a systems in the viggen is really bad, and even if they where good, its not a dogfighter by any means.
Aye Viggen Gang lol
@@christianbarstad923 You cannot compare AJ/AJS37 with JA37 when it comes to air-to-air capability. The difference is huge. Literally two complete different aircrafts. Different engine, avionics, sensors, weapons, data-links. JA37 was an excellent BVR platform from early 80s up until mid 2000s.
I really enjoyed this one a lot! A Swedish friend had cool stories about watching Drakens and Viggens, and even seeing them operate from the forest. I always admired SAAB’s innovative fighter aircraft.
Får rysningar när ja tänker tillbaka till det magiska ljudet som man fick uppleva som barn när Viggen kom flygande.
I grew up i in Norrköping where F13 was situated. As I remember it, there were "Viggens" flying over town almost every day. I will never forget their sound!
One of the most beautiful jet with unique camouflage pattern around.
Wonderful video. Always great to listen first hand declarations of flightcrews.
Keep uploading good stuff!!
Vägbassystemen är bland det absolut häftigaste Sverige har haft.. F13, Sveriges bästa flottilj! Glömmer aldrig åren före högstadiet då jag sommartid nästan dagligen cyklade ner till F13 o hängde utanför staketet vid bergrummet..
Vi har det än idag - bara mindre prat om det
Nu byggs det ut kraftigt och moderniseras 👍🏻
The bang he describes sounds like a "superbang", where the front and rear bang can get compressed into a single combined one, far more energetic during a sharp turn.
Gjorde Vpl tjänst på F21 Kallax 1978-79. När Viggen kom in över fältet, slog på EBK'n och försvann rakt upp i luften som en raket så skakade marken. Det var mäktigt.
What a wonderful documentary. Nice work on making it.👍👍👍👍👍
Efterlängtad, tack så hjärtligt. :)
The story @ 12:55 i can confirm i was in the Groud Crew at the Base back then and i saw the damages.
Thanks, glad that Jerry did film like he did. :)
I have many memories of the place in the southern Dalarna I lived in when I was growing up. The military had major exercises there.
Viggen and Draken flew almost every day in the area at low altitude and also over the village so the houses shook. a pilot flew over the paper mill between the chimney and a building.
Could tell many memories from that time.
There are also sad memories where they flew over a croft outside the village and scared rabbits they had out so they died from the supersonic bang when they flew over.
Ljudet av Viggen är ljudet av min barndom på 80-talet. Ståpäls direkt !
Ståfräs direkt
Saknar ljudet av jaktplan som tränar från min barndom.. lite tråkigt att de ska gå bakåt så där
Exakt!!!
Glömmer aldrig när en rote brakade över vårt sommartorp i södra Östergötland på trädtoppshöjd i början av 80-talet på så låg höjd att jag såg ansiktet på piloterna!
Rakt över taket över taket hos mor och far utanför Frösön!
Äntligen nytt avsnitt! Välkommet!
Fantastiska 18 min, tack!
In Sweden you can see roads that are made for airplanes here and there. Very smart way to keep the enemy guessing
Not only the roads but the REVERSE GEAR (Which viggen have) is ingenious to back up and park the beast among in forest areas
I wish the US would use this tactic more there’s a lot of roads at least in my state that planes could land on easily even without reverse thrust
@@zanejohnston2925 Well you are lucky to be a world apart from any danger and dont have to worry about the wrath of a whole airforce, at max it might be 1-2 aircraft carriers but the US would be able to handle that with ease.
Sucha beautiful plane and fantastic people those pilots...
Ihave been fortunate enough to see one of these fly, it is just amazing....
Fantastiskt reportage.
A Very respectable maximum speed with excellent combat radius and a good service ceiling , With excellent operational service specifications .
Cant wait to visit Sweden. Such a rich history. Heres to getting on the road again😉
tom mullaney, don't miss Stockholm!
@@duartesimoes508 Last year this time we were in Germany did the rail system through The Netherlands, Belgium, and France! I hope we all survive these troubled times here in America and around the world. I will never take another moment for granted with many things, and one of them is traveling with my son and exploring other cultures.
Exelent documental!!💪❤👍👍👍
Fantastiskt bra film.
Vilken bra film! :)
Jättebra film!
When i see flying like that
I cry.. It is so beautifu
Bra film.
Tidigare ägarna av vår gård har berättat att efter stridsflyg kört förbi föll en hel lada någon gång på 60-talet.
Familjen satt och åt middag i lugn och ro när planet flög förbi.
Many years ago (yeah, it sorta sucks getting old even though the alternative is way worse) I was told a story by a friends dad (the dad being ex Swedish Airforce pilot) about a picture taken from a Viggen.
The picture only showed some blurry grey construction against a clear blue sky.
Apparently the grey stuff was the underside of the bridge between the island of Öland and the main land. Picture had been taken by the Viggens spy cam while the pilot was flying the plane on its back under the bridge.
If true or not I do not know. But I do know there were some crazy pilots back then.
Actually, as far as I know this happened at F21 in the 1960s. The plane was a J29 "Tunnan" that flew upside down under the bridge at Luleviken. Allegedly the plane was piloted by the head of the reconnaissance squadron. He was ordered to take pictures of the bridge during a exercise. Apparently, thinking that this menial task was somewhat beneath him he decided to spice it up a bit by flying upside down under the bridge with the cameras running. I was told, in 1978, that the pictures were still with the reconnaissance squadron but I never saw them.
@@larss337 Great info Lars, thank you for pitching in! Like I said, it has been a while since I heard that story. I can very well imagine I got it mixed up.
We lost a lot of great pilots each year to accidents too during those years.
Saknar det speciella ljudet som Viggen har, gåshud.
Ljudet av frihet.
My heroes have always been fighter pilots. I rode bike and often pretty fast but Mach 1.2 at 300M? My god you fellahs are brave!
Do you plan doing other english subtitles for Viggen videos ? Very good job !
Cool plane!.. thanks 👍🇳🇿..
The Viggen is a Swedish legend 👍
Väldigt intressant film. Tog mig tillbaka till min barndom i Bro på -70talet där Viggar från Uppsala flög över på väg till, eller från, Östersjön...
Viggens vrål i vårt luftrum är något man saknar!
Växte upp i Norrköping, inte långt från F13.
Underbar maskin
Mycket bra och intressant!! :)
Tror SVT hade varit intresserad av denna filmen
För lite genus :(
@@callez2402 SVAR: Nej
@@AndersTheRipper För SVT alltså
@@callez2402 Haha!
@@callez2402 fortfarande SVAR: Nej.
beautiful aircraft.
Jag växte upp i Småland där Viggen i Sõdra Sverige flögs som mest (och en krashade). Det var alltid lika spännande när en viggen lågsniffande syntes över trädtopparna på sidan i någon lång sväng eller plötsligt ljudlöst framifrån. Jag var helt flygtokig.
Beautiful bird
the best of all times ❤❤❤❤❤
Kolla/ lyssna videon heter "Viggen takes off from Färila AB 2004"
Och dra på volymen !!! 😁😁
Rått!!
beautiful jet
Även om det förnekas från officiellt håll minns jag klart och tydligt hur viggen kommer in i överljudsfart över storsjöflaket och sveper över F4 där jag såg det (och hörde) det med mina egna ögon och öron. Vill minnas att det var en brygga från tornet då till en annan byggnad som vi stod på.
I'm just here for the pickled herring... I heard that the swedes were storing pickled herring in Luxemburg, i went there to get some, but it turns out, its was full of Ferrero rocher balls and those... Those are revolting... At least i saw that store that make "little things made out of straw", Amazing indeed...
Just wish F13 Kungliga Bråvalla would be operational again!
Very dense, cold air will magnify a shock wave significantly.
Exactly!
@@duartesimoes508 Yes it was in the winter i was there.
Sjukt, ja en gång i tiden så hade Sverige en hyfsat bra militärt del och sjukt bra plan. Annat e det nuförtiden även fast vi har Gripen
Viggen “Thunderbolt” is the coolest name on a fighter ever 💪🏻
it can also be a tufted duck....
Drake is a male mallard.
My small Private Military Company would like to procure 100 units for um... transportation and sports purposes.
On Credit naturally.
Flygmekaniker på Viggen i lumpen, grymt roligt
Jag låg som flygplan/vapenmekaniker 90-91 på F13.
så bra
Vad hette flygchefen på F13 ca hösten 1990 ?
During the sixties whe had the fourth biggest airforce in the World, not bad for a country with 7 million people.
Krister Andersson Damn amazing. Pretty good to build an airplane that good. And do it all over again with the Gripen. Must have cost a fortune and you guys pulled it off!
And the third biggest (UK) had a bunch of bombers and other aircraft that actually makes the Swedish airforce the third biggest when counting only fighter, attack and interceptor aircraft.
Well SAAB have built Aircraft since the 1930s and after WW2 they managed to get their hands on German data and the result was SAAAB J29 tunnan in the late fourties.
I think that Draken was quite a bit louder actually, at least at take off Draken was defening.
Draken was more like a shriek.. a bit more bite in that sound.
I know it's an old video but I have a question as I see it it seems no plane is fully armed no flight is fully loaded in many vidos but you have to go up and defend our border so you go up for border control but no weapons so how did you know if it was an attack or not
SwAF QRA has historically mainly been carried out with armed canons. On JA37 it's a built in 30mm Oerlikon canon. Swedish radars see all the way across the Baltic Sea, hence the QRA already has a pretty good idea of what to expect before they take off. As I understand, the reason why QRA by standard is not fully equipped with A2A missiles is because the intention is not to come across as aggressive and provocative. The intention is to mark presence and to document for intelligence purposes.
As an example, when U137 ran aground and got stuck in 1981, there was a lot of movement/activity on the Sovjet side. At F13 (and probably other air wings as well) you had everyone in high-alert. Jerry told me they were a four-ship on the runway, fully loaded out, engines running, following the developments across the radio. Luckily, tension de-escalated and they were never launched against any attacking sovjet forces.
The point is, configuration and load-out was based on the threat and situation.
@@MIPousette I believe a bunch of Rb04 was transferred to the bases.
Did F6 and F7 transfer to other fields (Moholm/Hagshult ?)
Which basically means : ok we will try to sink you.
thought he was going to start rapping at 4:33 lol
The Vikings of the sky!
When a bird is your worst enemy
Det kanske vore bra att införliva vägbassystemen igen.
Jag var där då
what is that little helicopter in the back round with 09 on it? Look like a little bird
"Hkp 2" (Sud Aviation SE 3130 Alouette II)
@@MIPousette thanks
Viggen was a beast.. i really like to fly it in DCS - i wonder why it never was exported, but i guess the US were involved (deal regarding the engine or smth i heard) it would have outclassed many planes out there.. and also the Draken (just compare it to the crappy Starfighter... Draken was as fast und just better in every other aspect)
This is why I want the viggen to be added in war thunder
Hur kan de träffa ett annat plan i luften när de åker så snabbt
Skicklighet, precision och blixtsnabba reflexer!
så sattans sjukt o va stridspilot.
Mmm barndom. Så många underbara motorljud i barndomens Arboga
حضور وانصراف في العالم
انا في العالم البحري
So cool to see the ghost (czcams.com/video/kBq5qA8r4dA/video.html) on the cars from Koenigsegg today. It's because they are built in what used to be the old hangar of the Swedish air force’s Johan Röd squadron. Nice video I enjoyed it!
Jakt Attack Spaning
👍👍💛💛💙💙
No subtitles !
You have to click the Caption/Subtitles icon on the CZcams-player
im malays people but i very like it this viking air force by having a design create and my country ever not to buy the another one beautiful this air force tho..but my country had Air Force like-SU 30MKM-F18/DHORNET and lastly BAE HAWK.. to me my country Air Force their are still beautiful ever had yea ✌ ..#respectfullysweden
Inte så mkt om vänner dom förlorat i tjänst?
Det var mer på tunnan tid
During the Cold War, 5 nations in the world built and flew their own aircraft. The United Stated. Soviet Russia. France. Great Britain. And.....Sweden.
No😁 Czechoslowakia had L-29 Delfín and L-39 Albatros. They are not fighters MACH1+ but we also flew own aircrafts😉 Poland had ISKRA planes.
@@pumelo1 All of which were, and are, trainer aircraft and not meant for combat.
@@mooneyes2k478 L-39 ZA,ZO, L-59 was used also as light fighter bomber. With bombs and gsh-23 canon
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I like your 😍😍😍😍😍❤❤❤🇹🇷
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One of the best fighters of the era, unfortunately underrated because of retarded export restrictions. It was slightly superior to the Mirage F1 that did very well in the export market.
Wonder how Argentina would have coped with Swedish aircraft and missiles…
I doubt the Viggen would’ve done well in export, as it is extremely specialized to it’s role in the Swedish Air Defense network. Other nations would have to extensively modify the airframe to their needs.
No subtitles
You have to enable "Captions" in the CZcams player.
It`s amazing how Sweden offered to sell a squadron of this beast to then communist Albania, in early 80s.
Frankly Frank not entirely correct. Even the J35 Draken was in service until mid 80’s. AJ, SH &SF37 was supplied 1970-1980 & JA37 1980-1990 tot 329 built . Mid 1980’s 54 of J35 Draken where upgraded from F to J- version (new systems & weapons), and these where retired 1998. Viggen was fully retired by 2005
If that deal would have taken place today, no one would have taken notice..
Too much trust and privilege to them, who are watching, QRA etc. part.
viggen får mig att känna saker ;)
I snorren?
greveeen 😉😉😳
Not the biggest fan of the viggan I think the j35 looked better but that's my opinion on cranked Delta wings in general
Det står att det skall vara engelska textremsor, men det finns det inte.
Jo då
Man ska bara starta dom
Du får väl klicka igång subtitles på rätt ikon så ska du se att det fungerar utmärkt.
@@carpetclimber4027 Nej, de skall finnas från början. Det är vad texten säger. Skulle det vara som du säger, skulle beskrivningen ha varit annorlunda.
@@EliasGranqvist nej står med Eng text och då man startar det en gång finns den i allt tills det stängs av igen
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Gjorde VPL på F21 -95 AJS 37 1 Komp. Rote splittade ovan plattan, sprakade fint i öronen.....
ghost squad...koenigsegg..
Var det den som ni svenskarna kalla det för Julgran?
Nej, men den flygande julkalendern.
@@robertthoren4022 🤣