I've met some of the KISS members more than once & can only speak of my own experiences. Never met Peter or Ace. Vinny Vincent was the nicest, most down to earth. Eric Carr was a total sweetheart. We all know Gene is an arrogant, sex-crazed, narcissist, but was always very friendly & approachable. Paul was a complete ass! We asked for his autograph & he acted as though we were bums asking for a handout! He was cold, rude, stand-offish, & downright horrible! I've hated him ever since!!
Yep , Paul is smart enough to put on the entire i love the fans stick . But he truly is a Ass , just as much as Gene , but hides it from the Press and Camera . His Ex Wife will tell you what he is like behind the mask .
I have met Paul personally Offstage and he refused to sign my album even though I told him I have been a Lifetime fan over 30yrs. There was only one other fan present when we met and he refused to sign. I found him to be quite arrogant and full of himself
So, Peter worked so hard during the Reunion tour that he was voted "MVP" by the band. His hands hurt, so he couldn't hit the drums as hard as he did in the 1970s and so they used triggers. And what does Paul say? 6:20 - we used to say "Peter could play a solo by sneezing." Nice thing to say about your MVP.
Bullshit, Peter was great!!! Paul wonders why he still doesn't realize that Peter got himself fired from Kiss years ago, because he couldn't take it anymore the narcissist Paul and Gene dictatorship!!! Disgusting, and Gene didn't need to help one of the best drummers ever put a drum solo together? Lol Disgusting
He's had a pretty rough life having to deal with all these useless no-talent peons the whole way. Ace sucked and has always sucked even on the first Kiss albums. Ditto for Peter Criss the un-couth diner and ignorant of Starbucks etiquette
Only difference is that it happened to paul naturally..he cant sing as he used to after 44 years of giving 100% to kiss. Paul had a powerful voice and could hit the high notes in the past...he did fantom of the opera way back. He can still sing...but he is 66 yrs old. Not easy to do.
Meh his voice was ok but his insistence on singing every syllable to the crowd was ridiculous. He couldn't just tell the crowd what was next. He had to sing it to them. That got old in a hurry
No he can't unless it's a sound room where he doesn't have to sing to a certain volume level. They had to do a lot of tweaking to his vocal on the song he did recently with Ace.
Phillip H Anselmo- Just like to say that I saw Pantera at The Marquee Club in London on your very first Uk appearance on the ''Cowboy's Tour''.....I still have a Plectrum of Dime's from that show and all of you performed like it was your last! You did all of the Cowboys album and as an encore you played a track of The Power Metal Album......The next day I thought I my head had been divorced from my neck! Thanks for the pain...That show would have made the best DVD ever....
Facts: KISS stayed at The Ritz-Carlton in San Juan Puerto Rico when I was part of the leadership in Loss Prevention. Gene was very laid back and glued to Shannon the whole time. Peter was very incognito and super low key. Ace was friendly and after the show was over instead of hitting the after party, he came straight back to the hotel in full make up. I met him at the entrance and escorted him to his room while taking his room service order and talking about his killer riffs on The Dynasty Album especially 2000 man. When I got him to his room he had me wait and came back out with a $100 bill and the pick he used at the concert! Now as for Paul. For someone talking about the others not understanding the finer things in life. Dude you were staying at The Ritz- Carlton. Walking around in the lobby with no shirt on is a no no for sure. I remember having to ask him on 3 different occasions to put on a shirt. Also, according to the Lobby Lounge waitresses, he was a poor tipper. No hate on Paul, but lets keep it real. I will say this, aside from the Paul no shirt incident, he was cool too. Way better than The Scorpions. Had to tell them that accosting the Housekeeping staff with sexual innuendos and offering the ladies money for sex is a real bad look and we came too close to throwing them out. There management made them apologize publicly. That is another story though....lol
Problem is, both Paul and Gene knew problems were going to come up with Peter, yet they went ahead with a reunion. Now, Paul says it wasn't about the money. Riiggghhhtttt....
@@larryross8538 it's laughable how the Ace and Peter male groupies aka nut huggers, are so much like them..always finding excuses to justify their actions and blaming others for their shortcomings...
Look at who has the money and who doesn't. Peter is worth $5 million now, Ace $1 million. Paul $200 million and Gene . . . . . . $400 million. The last two didn't need the money, it's about the buzz you get and doing what you love to do. Shit Harrison Ford still acts and he's worth $300 million.
"Me, Gene, Ace and Peter back together, magic" (should have replaced the word magic with money). I have to admit hearing this edit was hilarious. "Are you kidding? This time last year you hadn't been to a Starbucks" comedy gold
Paul Stanley has always been the opposite of rock n roll, Gene Simmons is a literal clown, Criss is pathetic, Ace is limited but at least he always realized it was a joke.
I'm not sure Starbucks qualifies as a "world experience" but hey, it seems like Stanleys view is the most condescending and self aggrandizing view of everyone in the group. Such a shame. Kiss was 4 members. everything else was unfortunate. You got a member that is lacing in an area,, pick him up and carry him along. If you're not there yet, fine, regroup and go on but once you have the recognized group you just got to go with it.
Starbucks is where Paul can show off by “maneuvering in nice surroundings”. It’s funny to think of Paul condescending to Peter while drinking overpriced coffee out of a paper cup.
Saw Ace and Peter at a club (the Metron) in Harrisburg, PA. The most energetic Kiss show I've ever seen and I saw the Kiss reunion new years eve show in New Jersey. Peter played 100,000 years with his band among other classics, then later joined Ace to sing Strange Ways. Ace shuffled onto the stage, then ferociously darted to the crowd and laid into Parasite and played all of his smash hits. Smoking solo for shock me, and his pulsating lit Les Paul for New York Groove! Shows like that in '95 were what got Paul and Gene talking about a reunion tour.
Ace will probably be late for his own funeral but at least he didn't right a long, boring, overpriced, book just to demean everyone else who helped put him where he is.
Peter's behavior in KISS is unfortunate, but I can say that the 3 times I have had interactions with him, he was kind, engaging, patient, and polite, and seemed to be interested in me as a person. I have great memories with him. What happened between the members of KISS is between them and them alone.
Just because he is kind towards you,doesn't mean he can be an asshole to others. The problem s they have grown apart.They were this 4 hungry kids,that came up off the street with all their extra baggage. They worked an got famous,but a hey got famous they also grew apart,and the difference in their life style became evident. Along with their different talent and gifts. Gene is shrewd business man and talent spotter. Producer too. Ace is a guitar player without a stage an not all that bad singer,and song writer.. Peter was good drummer. good singer. As far a song writing goes I don't think he wrote all that much. Paul is a good singer producer and writer. Wih a huge ego.Just like gene But they've both been smart enough to not piss away their talent.
I grew up listening to kiss as my first favorite rock band. I love the original line up and currently in my view kiss is not kiss. It's a shame they couldn't make it work and stay together. As a society, we ALL have issues of some sort. I've seen gene in some interviews and he seems like a arrogant, narcisitic person but I still enjoy listening to the music he,paul,ace and peter helped to create which played a role in my rock roots. Long live rock!
Someone has rose coloured glasses on. Ummmmm, who had the songs?who had the drive?who had the vision? Paul and Gene were driving the train....but all pistons were needed ...in the beginning, Pete was really good, but only for 5 years. The make up put more focus on who was the drummer of the band...unlike any other...but really, Gene and Paul could have chosen any other rock and roll drummer, and the hype would have been the same....probably better, as Pete’s drumming , along with his attitude went downhill quick...
Ace and Gene have even been jamming together at Gene's Vault Experience meet and greets, reminiscing over all their wacky antics and admitting it wasn't as bad as their autobiographies made it seem. Apparently they've called Peter several times to get him to come along but (as Paul states here), GiGi's been acting as a buffer to keep them away. The only thing stopping the original members from playing together again is Paul and GiGi being manipulative bitches.
@@ToruKun1 GiGi is very much Peter's other half. She keeps him from working with Gene and Paul since they've ripped him off since the reunion days. Yes Peter screwed around a lot and was often really hard to work with, but Gene and Paul still really screwed him in some of those reunion/farewell deals
Detroiter here, whole family from Detroit (not the Eminem or Kid Rock suburbs). I did not attend this show, but remember the tour. WRIF in Detroit interviewed KISS and it was sold out. Whatever shortcomings as musicians they have, they always seemed to deliver a show worth the money. The squabbles and personalities outside of the show really makes no difference. It's a rock and roll Show. Detroiter here.
always funny to hear people make the distinction of being from the REAL city instead of the suburbs like claiming the city limits of detroit is a badge of honor or something to be proud of lol. i was born in flint and i hear the same crap like don't say you're from flint when you live in the next town over...okay then, i wasn't born anywhere. you can have the city and all the mess that comes along with it.
I hate how Gene & Paul put down Ace & Peter. I was a Fan from the get go @ 6-7yo. But I did notice Peters drumming. I was shocked at how little his wrist and sticks were moving. It was kinda sad. I was told it was Carpal Tunnel (sp... Sorry). But I guess Paul is trying to sell books so I guess it's OK to throw people under the bus.
Sell your soul for rock and roll. All of these guys are mentally disturbed in varying degrees. Gene claims he's never been drunk of high in his life, so he acts like a misogynistic, cash hungry narcissist. Paul is similar. The other guys are simply human with ground based issues.
Anyone who states Peter isn’t a bad guy must have never read his book. He lists all the stupid shit he does and then blames everyone else for his own decisions. I met him and he was an inconsiderate prick. Read Lydia’s book. That says it all.
@@syngynm5237 Not defending Peter's downward spiral but being a bass player myself I've known lots of drummers over the years. Most of the time their shoulders deteriorate, particularly the rotator cuffs. It tends to happen when they hit their fifties so I don't believe Peter was lying or exaggerating. Sure, he could do one off shows with a few songs but playing a 2 hour set every night must've been murder for him.
@@warptek I respect your pov. It is valid, regarding injuries and age diminishing how well, often and long older players can still do it. I think Criss suffers from age and injury as much as he is impacted because he didn't work his craft over the years.
Paul is a miserable guy he's always putting one of the other band mates down I just listened to Peter's bio and man they treated him like shit they meaning Gene & Paul I know Peter wasn't an angel but he seems like the most genuine and down to earth out of the 4
@@theward2425 But of course the context is in KISS is drug use ok? No...that's the context. Ace nods out while putting on makeup? Yeah..that's an issue. If other groups do drugs does that have anything to do with what KISS does or expects of it's members? Of course not...do better in your reasoning.
C'est vrai 💚 Fan de Paul, mais c est fini, il vieillit mal et a toujours critiquer, se prenant pour un Dieu il va aux toilettes comme tout le monde, faudrait lui rappeler .
well cris had his problems and was a only mediocre drummer but he did sing and write their highest charting song so he did bring something to the table
Peter didn't write "Beth". It was written by Stan Penridge from the band Chelsea. Bob Ezrin rearranged it into the song we know today. Stan was nice enough to give Peter a writing credit even though Peter had little to do with it.
@@sandytinky thats some cool info never heard that story i knew he didn't arrange it though either ways kiss would not have the song if jt wasn't for Peter. I wish they had the internet when i was a kid bands were such a mysterie some i never even saw what they even looked like until i saw them live and others only a couple pics from the album covers and some in magazines or tv performances if they were that big. Midnight special was a good one!
Paul's accounts often sound reminiscent of corporate fake news. I wouldn't ever want to meet or be friends with Paul because it sounds as if anything I did, he would bash me for it.
Funny you say that as even Peter said Paul is nice and sweet guy but after he has just shaken your hand he has also taken your wallet and slit your throat and you did not know it. Yes I would say Paul would be a nasty man . Gene though is a nostalgic man and he would love the original lineup but has to appease the King Maker.
Michael, you are living in fantasyland. Gene doesn't want to deal with Ace or Peter the same as Paul doesn't want to deal with them. And Peter is the biggest liar out there. He couldn't even make himself look good in his own book.
Gee, thanks Paul for introducing Peter to Starbucks, because they r so hard to find and cost crazy amounts of money for a cup of coffee. Did you show him Costco?
@@tjclt250r yeah so obscure that even I, living in bumfcuk nowhere, went to one over 20 years ago in the uk. lucky paul was around as peter might have missed out that place of high culture.
Peter played with Ace and Anthrax and must have been nearly 70 a few years ago and played with no triggers. He can still play but more importantly he always had a great vocal. Look at the speed of ticket sales in 1997 when they sold everything out in 10 minutes. They did not even sell out 2017. Like or not Peter and Ace are the draw along with Paul and Gene.
But can he play consistently? It’s one thing to play one show after you’ve had all the time in the world to rest, than it is to perform constantly while on tour.
Has Paul Stanley ever listened to his voice and slow guitar playing even in them days? Also, they sure as hell needed Peter and Ace for a reunion tour obviously, they aren't mad about the insane money that brought in!!!
No doubt Peter's and Ace dependencies were harmful, Paul and Gene were not without their issues. Paul is a huge drama queen and always will be. Gene is 100% money driven and seceding to his "wisdom". That said, Gene is the one that keeps things together. Don't think Peter could make it through even one concert but Ace still can. Let's have one go round with at least Ace back on stage as the original Space Man. Try a one -of concert and see how that goes.
Terry, your views are off. Paul was the one that kept Kiss together when Gene was doing everything else, and the band is back to a partnership now. And the reunion talk is beating a dead horse.
Ace is all over the place on stage now - he's off key and can't sing. Sorry, any KISS reunion these days would be terrible. Paul is over the hill vocally, and Simmons is looking like a retired fat mobster.
I love the original line-up, Ace in particular, but even I have to admit that it must get pretty fucking annoying after a while to have to deal with someone who is always drunk or high. It bums me out that Ace could never quite keep his shit together. I often wonder what the 80's and 90's would have been like if Ace and Peter were better behaved and never left the band in the first place.
What's really sad is that they had a second chance and Ace pretty much went right back to the behaviors that sunk him the first time. You would think that a man in his 40's being presented with the chance to regain the millions that he lost would get his shit under control the second time around. But in spite of it all, he gave us some great music. I still think Dark Light is one of his best songs ever.
At least Ace had been sober for over 11 years now. I bet that he does a few more shows with KISS next year. Peter? Well, he's over 70 now, and since Paul is the guy that really controls that band, it seems like Paul is really pissed off at Peter (probably because Peter had some not very flattering things to say about Paul in his book), and although he did say a lot of GOOD things about Paul in his book as well., I doubt that he will be invited.
DanR67 . . . I agree with you re:Dark Light. I have played Dark Light to my KISS hating guitar playing friends and acquintances. Many of them thought that the guitar work, in particular, was by Jimmy Page. They were stunned when I showed them The Elder cover.
Devante, your comment is ridiculous. When two of the members are stoned and can't even show up to the studio, it's up to the other two to cover for them, which they did. Ace and Peter had unsuccessful solo careers for a reason. And if you judge your bands by makeup and costumes, I can understand why you can't comprehend the changes and why.
This honestly breaks my heart to listen to. I’ve heard three interviews now, four with this one where he does nothing but bash Peter. Regardless, he was fucking up and you had to fire him. That’s fine. But...there was no need to air all this dirty laundry. All this bashing...this was someone who was a part of your life, your legacy, your band...enough is enough. Just let that shit go and stop talking so much trash.
Okay Paul why rip on the guys who revived you career and made the Hottest Band In The World Hot again. I saw the Reunion Tour and all were good and I saw Peter,s solo and it was the best I had ever heard him or any drummer in Kiss play before! Now why wait until now to tell these stories ? Okay so he and Ace are not class acts but you need all four more as much as you dislike each other! The current band is a parody and has tainted the legacy beyond ever being what is once was! I don't doubt Peter & Ace doing what they did as all of a sudden they were big shots again and played up to it knowing they had the two (Jews) in a corner. The Farewell should have been it . Sad that this is now a Soap Opera !
Paul Gene Ace and Peter are old men now, what's done in the past won't change, would be nice if they could forget it and respect each other while there's still time
Gene and Paul....literally couldn't get booked on a real tour until Ace and Peter came back. Those two fools resorted to taking over the fan conventions and upcharging everything in sight. Gene and Paul literally owe their Kurrent Kiss Kover Klub to Ace and Peter for giving them one last go around. Their "keeping the brand alive" was 100 percent delusional. They were dead as Kizz Koffins until the two trouble makers came back. Paul should refer to them as the two cash generators because its the literal truth.
headlesssoldier No one knew who Ace and Peter were. It was the word “reunion,” as well the makeup. You could dress anyone in those clown suits and make a mint. Like they do now.
CelestialWoodway If Ace and Catpiss came back now, it wouldn’t have half the effect it did in 96. That ship sailed along time ago. People would demand their money back. Those weren’t real Kiss fans in 96 either. Most were people just looking for an event. Think I’m wrong? Where were the real fans in 81 and 82? Where were the real fans in 94? Real fan, bullshit. Sounds more like fair weather fans. Kiss plays to more people now than they did in the 70s. I say that with no bias for current Kiss. Kiss’s best period was 73-75. Anything after Bob Ezrin got a hold of them sucks, except COTN. But, Kiss is more successful now than they’ve ever been in terms of tours. But I wouldn’t see them. Paul sounds like he swallowed razor spooge. Roll Catpiss and Ace in there and it’d be a geriatric horror show.
I couldn't f**king believe the title of this video. Paul never gets tired of hearing his own voice. I don't know what went on in KISS but it's gotten to the point where I just don't care anymore. KISS to me are a historic band which ended when Ace left, no offence to Vinnie, Mark, Bruce or Tommy. The Reunion Tour should have been the end of it. Instead Paul and Gene kept it going and ruined the band's legacy.
I don't know why I watched any of this as I've no interest in Kiss and gave up when the narrator, after about a minute, implied that drinking in Starbucks made you in someway cultured.
All the guys in kiss sit around judging each other. Their growth became stunted by being in a rock band. They all act like each others boss/judge/creator. lol
2:25 : the way he talks about "this version" of Kiss. As if all other versions are just as valid, but for some unknown reason fans like "this version" the best. Sounds like he still doesn't know why. I think in his mind "Heavens on Fire" is just as good as "Strutter". "Crazy Nights" is just as good as "I Want You". Then at 5:20 : "We had always had a drum solo during the Alive years" ....? and the other years? I've never known Kiss to not have a drum solo. I've never seen Kiss live where there wasn't a drum solo. Not sure why he's making that distinction.
You have to realize, Peter was living under a bridge, panhandlin for pocket change for years after he was kicked out of kiss. I'm not surprised that he was freaking out at the taste of starbucks. Living under the bridge, he was probably lucky to get a cup of folgers coffee.
Does Paul ever critique any of his bullshit? Voice has went into the toilet, and by the way never better than Pete's anyway, and guitar 🎸 flat cords and average at best? Try again Paul Hitler!!!! Lol 🤣
Peter Criss is so happy for that biscotti. 😂 PS saying that reminds me of that newspaper article about a lady who said she wears whatever to the Dollar Store and doesn't bother to get dressed up like she does for Walmart. 🤣
Paul is so mean. Unnecessarily in many instances. You can tell hes not an easy person to be in a band with, but for the mot part sounds like he doesnt think his shit stinks.
Jim Foxx, no they are not "both" that way. I worked with Paul and so I was around all of them. Peter wasn't so bad. Paul was polite until you start getting goofy. Ace was not so bad and was the quietest. Gene was the big asshole. Couldn't do nothing right with Gene. Gene is a collector of his own feces which he plans to have fossilized and available for people to buy thousands of years from now, to remember Kiss's "Demon".....
well i must say it's pretty cool that you got to work with paul. i've kind of wanted to meet ace myself but i've heard people say he's not nice and then i hear other people say he's a sweetheart
I met Paul with another fan at the motel Kiss were staying in. He refused to sign my Album . I told him that I was a fan of Kiss for over 30yrs and had been at the Original 1980 Australian tour . He still refused to sign
Same here. Drove 6 hrs to see him on his Live to Win solo tour in '06(?) Waited outside the bus for a couple of hrs in the afternoon. He comes out, I ask him to sign a cd of his new album, and he walked away.
I am the boss of you, that's why. I tell you to jump, you say "How high, Sir?" I tell you to run, you say "How far, Sir?" etc. etc. I will give you your opinion and you will damn glad I did.
I saw the 90's reunion tour in Montreal and it was awesome. It was my 70's childhood dream come to life. All my favorite Kiss songs are from that line up plus some from their time with Vinnie. I never really liked the 80s stuff, Animalize was ok but after that, stuff like Let's Put the X in Sex was very cheese, those kinds of songs allowed Grunge to take over the scene so easily. It's sad to see them all shitting on each other because they are my childhood heroes. If I go see a Kiss tribute band, I want to see the 70's stuff and that's all. Seeing the 70s style line up doing Heaven's on Fire is bad. Peter is/ was fucking awesome, ok so he's old now, that's how life works. I felt bad for Peter when they let Eric Carr sing Beth on Smashes Thrashes and Hits, that was really lame. Same thing with not letting Steven Adler into the GNR reunion tour, it's fucking bullshit because each of those guys were stand out characters that had a hand in making those bands become successful.
Haha true... I'm straight and I can barely remember yesterday. However, this audio is still hilarious and a lot of what he says rings true about Gene being self-centered. I used to be in a band and my bandmates were pretty egotistical to the point of this kinda sh*t. Still funny.
Seriously...I wish that Paul would talk about his own personality flaws too. I mean he blast Ace, Peter, Vinnie and even Gene for less than perfect behavior but what about himself? I never hear him be as harsh to himself as he is to others like he's some kind of flawless messiah. Seriously, Paul's lack of self awareness and culpability for his own rude, uncultured behavior is a huge reason why I'm not quite cozy with him. Seriously, at least Peter had the decency to won up to every crappy thing he's done in the past in his own book. What about Mr. Perfect Paul Stanley?
In a different forum, Paul would...like in his book he does. The thing is why he has to talk about Peter and Ace is because it's a huge story about them being ousted out of the hugest band around. They have to give reasons why, you know. It was a huge deal to have to fire the 2 original members...so there are many accounts of their own inadequecies stating what had happened.
You would think that by now they would all realize how lucky they’ve been, but absolutely knowing it took all 4 of them to create, become, and accomplish all they have..They very well may bff e the damn luckiest 4 guys on earth...
Yes, Peter was co-dependent, and still is to this day. Paul is trying to explain their comeback and how grateful everyone should be, but Pete is ALWAYS self destructive, eventually. Not entirely his fault, but once you are old enough, you need to take responsibility for your actions.
The 4 original members just never clicked. At least they gave us that reunion tour and a few years after. But I don't think I could stand being around a guy like Paul for many years either
Mike m. Nor should it. His dedication to the band kept them afloat for forty years. Peter and Ace lost interest in the 70s. Gene lost interest in the 80s. Say what you will about the quality of their output since 77, the only reason Kiss exists is because of Paul. Not Peter, not Ace, not Gene. Paul.
Marty White I'm a fan of kiss I have most of the albums and DVDs and the lineup with Tommy and Eric is the best they have ever been, a little more humility would be a good thing
I can't stop there!!! They made a noble however failed attempt to be something they could never be. A creative band. Elder! Most of us just want to rock!
While Im pretty convinced it would have been a blast partying with Ace or Peter in 70s I am also totally convinced working with them was not. Still for me it was always the music even if I like the visuals as well. But only the 70s, to me they havent really done anything relevant after 1982. My 5 cents. 🤘❤
I agree, having enjoyed them since the 70s and catching them in Houston (Love Gun 77), it was always the music. The makeup and show may have helped them gain attention, it also worked against them, I think. By 1979, I felt KISS was for preteens.
More like 1978 -- you really gonna throw down over "dynasty' and the "four faces" garbage. They owe you me and everyone in America money over that crap.
I don't think Dynasty is the worst they have released to be honest. Ace's song are all good and there's a couple more on the album that is OK. I think the real disaster was later in the 80's when Paul Stanley wanted be Paul Bon Jovi... :D
My first concert was kiss w peter framton in detroit , best ever, ahh the good ole days !!! Rock on , it seems when criss came out w his album all hell broke loose !!
Ace actually did make some money with Frehley's Comet in the late 80's. I know he was still drinking and doing some other things, but Frehley's Comet toured pretty well during that time. It's not accurate that he didn't make ant money apart from KISS.
There's a lot more we don't see or hear about. Peter never wanted the glam or glitz that came with KISS. If you told the band before they became famous that KISS would be the star attraction at concert venues in the late 70s, Peter probably would have walked out then. Not everyone wants that lifestyle. Peter didn't. Listen to his solo album, it's laid back. He wanted out after KISS got famous, but Gene and Paul wanted nothing of it. So what would you do if you got depressed? Drink right? Gene and Paul loved the limelight, reveled in it. But, they knew KISS wouldn't survive long if Peter/Ace left the band. That's probably when they decided to remove the makeup, to make it easier to make the changes after that. It was successful to some degree, but remember, to this day Beth is the best selling single of all of KISS' playlist and that pisses off both Gene and Paul. Beth started the Power Ballad movement for the next 20 years. To this day, Peter still did it the best.
Bullshit Peter knew what they wanted and said he would do anything to make it. He got it but he wanted to live the excess and it got him even Ace got fed up with him. But the original is still the best .
He did get it, and I think that's what Peter wasn't ready for...was that once he got it, he found he hated most of it, or at least enough of it that he was conflicted about it, and it brought out bad things in his personality.
Patrick, what do you base this opinion on? Because it's definitely not Peter's or Lydia's or Kiss' books and interviews, that's for sure. His solo album? Seriously?
I based it on quotes of his before and after KISS. Keep in mind Peter and Ace were brought in based on ads Gene and Paul placed. Gene and Paul had always envisioned more than making music. Once it became apparent that KISS was going to earn more than the music (concerts and merchandising), Peter really started to see things differently. Really once KISS got so big they got their own movie, Gene and Paul started to see the band differently. Peter just wanted to play and record. Have a good time. Gene and Paul saw an empire with them on top. What most don't know is Gene and Paul saw themselves KISS with Peter and Ace as backup musicians. Gene and Paul were pissed when Ace had more success than either of them with his solo album. That moment is what caused the fracture in the band. Gene and Paul wanted to go one way and Peter didn't.
Um, no. First off, Genes solo album charted the highest. Secondly, if it was all about the music for Ace and Peter, then why were they blowing off sessions and spending all their time doing anything but working? Both of them had unsuccessful solo careers and horrible reputations in the business for a reason.
Agreed. It was a symbiotic relationship for Gene and Paul to recapture the fame and wealth, they had to put up with Peter and Ace, and their old habits. It worked for a while, but Peter and Ace had problems they refused to deal with.
Phillip H Anselmo If you call being truthful about Peter complaining, then yes, he does it the whole book. I think they should rehire him just to fire him again.
OK, people trigger their drums. That is not uncommon. Even Billy Cobham likes to be mic'ed up loud so he doesn't have to sacrifice his technique. The fastest metal drummers in the world usually use triggers. So I'm going to have to say Paul is a little ignorant about his craft in terms of drums. Peter was doing exactly what you do with triggers. You hit them hard enough but no harder. This allows you to have fluidity and speed. And yeah as you get old you're not as strong and you were. But in this situation strength has nothing to do with it. Once you trigger a drum that variable is removed.
Yes he made out Peter was lame and I saw the Reunion Tour and that drum solo was great better than any other Kiss Drummer has ever done! This is sour grapes from a man who has gotten his ego over inflated .
The fact of the matter is, Paul drank also. But Paul don't like to speak about what Paul has done. Paul likes to run Paul's mouth about everyone but Paul. My just how long is Paul's arm to pat himself on his back just for being Paul.
I guess now is a good time to point out that Beth made an absolute fuckton of money and the only reason I even liked kiss was Peter's ragged assed drumming and Aces raw "cats-fucking on the pickups" Style. For me, Ace is the archetypical rock and roll guitarist and without the opiates it ain't ever gonna be the same. Paul and Gene were too busy trying to get laid, Peter and Ace absolutely carried the band into the 80's.
At his stage in the game you'd think Paul would be happy to smell the roses rather than rake up the shit. Sad.
Well stated.
@GIL Favor Great come back, Potsie.
@Anderson Cooper Nothing of value comes out of Pauline Stanley.
He’s just telling you the truth dickhead.
@@OutOnTheTiles No need to stop being a lady.
I've met some of the KISS members more than once & can only speak of my own experiences. Never met Peter or Ace. Vinny Vincent was the nicest, most down to earth. Eric Carr was a total sweetheart. We all know Gene is an arrogant, sex-crazed, narcissist, but was always very friendly & approachable. Paul was a complete ass! We asked for his autograph & he acted as though we were bums asking for a handout! He was cold, rude, stand-offish, & downright horrible! I've hated him ever since!!
Yep , Paul is smart enough to put on the entire i love the fans stick . But he truly is a Ass , just as much as Gene , but hides it from the Press and Camera . His Ex Wife will tell you what he is like behind the mask .
Igor.the same.response.from Paul.he is a ass Eric car was the best guy I ever met he gave me a autagraft picture and and ahug that felt real.
He refused to sign my album in front of one other fan only. Even though I had explained to Paul I had been a fan for over 30yrs
He's even more like that now.
@DankBeans Yes I did
Paul Stanley is somehow, some way more conceited than Gene Simmons.
At least Gene is open & up front about it, Paul pretends to be so wonderful & humble. He's a phony.
Gene is a really nice, appreciative person. Met him 3 times, always great.
Paul and Gene are all business, that’s what it’s about. The other two wanted to have fun and party.
Get your nose out of Peter and Aces's ass and get w reality. Grow up bitch
Peter and Ace are KISS gods and nothing will ever change that.
Not gods they are men but will meet God one day as we all will
@@russellbarlow1796 Thanks, Jesus! Say hi to Dad! Come on, a-hole, it's gods, not Gods. Education is a good thing
Paul sounds really narcissistic and self centered.
@llahmitswr Ace isn't, he's the only down to earth member.
That’s just rude to call me that
I have met him and he Is
or...is he a professional?
I have met Paul personally Offstage and he refused to sign my album even though I told him I have been a Lifetime fan over 30yrs. There was only one other fan present when we met and he refused to sign. I found him to be quite arrogant and full of himself
So, Peter worked so hard during the Reunion tour that he was voted "MVP" by the band. His hands hurt, so he couldn't hit the drums as hard as he did in the 1970s and so they used triggers. And what does Paul say? 6:20 - we used to say "Peter could play a solo by sneezing." Nice thing to say about your MVP.
Bullshit, Peter was great!!! Paul wonders why he still doesn't realize that Peter got himself fired from Kiss years ago, because he couldn't take it anymore the narcissist Paul and Gene dictatorship!!! Disgusting, and Gene didn't need to help one of the best drummers ever put a drum solo together? Lol Disgusting
Peter was such an a-hole for saying he enjoyed the biscotti.
Paul knows his Starbucks biscotti, he's a very cultured man.
Paul brags about his Starbucks sophistication. What a bore.
He's had a pretty rough life having to deal with all these useless no-talent peons the whole way. Ace sucked and has always sucked even on the first Kiss albums. Ditto for Peter Criss the un-couth diner and ignorant of Starbucks etiquette
Ace and Peter WERE the talent dumbfuck. Gene and Paul are ego driven no talent douchebags. Nobody who played in KISS could even come close to Ace.
@@blindmelonstubbly If Ace sucked so much then why does Tommy mirror his licks identically to Ace's??
Rockett Customs You need your ears washed out if you think these mediocre, substance abusing losers had any shred of talent.
@@blindmelonstubbly Peter and Ace were into playing in a rock band Paul And Gene F'd that up.
Apparently everyone let paul Stanley down. Makes me never want to meet him or have anything to do with him.
Paul needs his own CZcams channel where his visits all the high places like Maccaroni Grill, Cheescake Factory and Golden Corral
Paul Stanley: Many Reservations
and then a night at the Motel 6 with "sanitized for your protection" on the toilet seat
Not being pretentious isn't a liability, Stanley.
Love Golden Corral
That's awesome
Here's paul ripping Peter for his deteriorating skills & now Paul can't sing a note. Karma?
Only difference is that it happened to paul naturally..he cant sing as he used to after 44 years of giving 100% to kiss. Paul had a powerful voice and could hit the high notes in the past...he did fantom of the opera way back. He can still sing...but he is 66 yrs old. Not easy to do.
but phil he talks shit about EVERYONE in the band ace gene and peter like as if his shit doesn't stink
Meh his voice was ok but his insistence on singing every syllable to the crowd was ridiculous. He couldn't just tell the crowd what was next. He had to sing it to them. That got old in a hurry
No he can't unless it's a sound room where he doesn't have to sing to a certain volume level. They had to do a lot of tweaking to his vocal on the song he did recently with Ace.
Phillip H Anselmo- Just like to say that I saw Pantera at The Marquee Club in London on your very first Uk appearance on the ''Cowboy's Tour''.....I still have a Plectrum of Dime's from that show and all of you performed like it was your last! You did all of the Cowboys album and as an encore you played a track of The Power Metal Album......The next day I thought I my head had been divorced from my neck! Thanks for the pain...That show would have made the best DVD ever....
Facts: KISS stayed at The Ritz-Carlton in San Juan Puerto Rico when I was part of the leadership in Loss Prevention. Gene was very laid back and glued to Shannon the whole time. Peter was very incognito and super low key. Ace was friendly and after the show was over instead of hitting the after party, he came straight back to the hotel in full make up. I met him at the entrance and escorted him to his room while taking his room service order and talking about his killer riffs on The Dynasty Album especially 2000 man. When I got him to his room he had me wait and came back out with a $100 bill and the pick he used at the concert! Now as for Paul. For someone talking about the others not understanding the finer things in life. Dude you were staying at The Ritz- Carlton. Walking around in the lobby with no shirt on is a no no for sure. I remember having to ask him on 3 different occasions to put on a shirt. Also, according to the Lobby Lounge waitresses, he was a poor tipper. No hate on Paul, but lets keep it real. I will say this, aside from the Paul no shirt incident, he was cool too. Way better than The Scorpions. Had to tell them that accosting the Housekeeping staff with sexual innuendos and offering the ladies money for sex is a real bad look and we came too close to throwing them out. There management made them apologize publicly. That is another story though....lol
Very cool info! Was this during the Reunion tour, the Psycho Circus tour or the Farewell tour?
It was the Psycho Circus Tour!
Extra interesting! Thanks for replying :)
Marvin Felix Camillo Jr. Nice story, thanks. 👍
Great story man
"Took him too starbucks" ohhhh boy..
Problem is, both Paul and Gene knew problems were going to come up with Peter, yet they went ahead with a reunion. Now, Paul says it wasn't about the money. Riiggghhhtttt....
Of course it’s about the money ace and Peter were broke but they get a pass because they were playing for the love of music lol right
@@larryross8538 it's laughable how the Ace and Peter male groupies aka nut huggers, are so much like them..always finding excuses to justify their actions and blaming others for their shortcomings...
Look at who has the money and who doesn't. Peter is worth $5 million now, Ace $1 million. Paul $200 million and Gene . . . . . . $400 million. The last two didn't need the money, it's about the buzz you get and doing what you love to do. Shit Harrison Ford still acts and he's worth $300 million.
"Me, Gene, Ace and Peter back together, magic" (should have replaced the word magic with money). I have to admit hearing this edit was hilarious. "Are you kidding? This time last year you hadn't been to a Starbucks" comedy gold
@@larryross8538 Simmons was down to 7 million and Stanley was down to about 9 million prior to the reunion.
This is both hilarious and pathetic, and I"m not talking about Peter Criss.
GFY
I agree
Agreed
Very true, mate!
I think we all know who the real narcissistic sociopath is? His last is Stanley? Lol 🤣 😆
Ace and Peter were the coolest Kiss members. Gene and Paul are about as rock n roll as an accounting firm.
And their shrewd business sense made Criss and Frehley millionaires.
Paul Stanley has always been the opposite of rock n roll, Gene Simmons is a literal clown, Criss is pathetic, Ace is limited but at least he always realized it was a joke.
I'm not sure Starbucks qualifies as a "world experience" but hey, it seems like Stanleys view is the most condescending and self aggrandizing view of everyone in the group. Such a shame. Kiss was 4 members. everything else was unfortunate. You got a member that is lacing in an area,, pick him up and carry him along. If you're not there yet, fine, regroup and go on but once you have the recognized group you just got to go with it.
Starbucks is where Paul can show off by “maneuvering in nice surroundings”. It’s funny to think of Paul condescending to Peter while drinking overpriced coffee out of a paper cup.
Saw Ace and Peter at a club (the Metron) in Harrisburg, PA. The most energetic Kiss show I've ever seen and I saw the Kiss reunion new years eve show in New Jersey. Peter played 100,000 years with his band among other classics, then later joined Ace to sing Strange Ways. Ace shuffled onto the stage, then ferociously darted to the crowd and laid into Parasite and played all of his smash hits. Smoking solo for shock me, and his pulsating lit Les Paul for New York Groove! Shows like that in '95 were what got Paul and Gene talking about a reunion tour.
Ace will probably be late for his own funeral but at least he didn't right a long, boring, overpriced, book just to demean everyone else who helped put him where he is.
No, Ace had someone else write his book for him filled with inaccurate information because he can't remember anything.
Lance E did you read Pauls book? I liked it and actually could see the veiws he spoke of. You can tell those who speak and haven't read! Rock on!!
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Sharon M Rock on Beautiful 🤘🏼🥰
@Greg Hubbard the Dead by Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons and so was Peter Criss???? You drugged out when you wrote this????????????
Peter's behavior in KISS is unfortunate, but I can say that the 3 times I have had interactions with him, he was kind, engaging, patient, and polite, and seemed to be interested in me as a person. I have great memories with him. What happened between the members of KISS is between them and them alone.
Just because he is kind towards you,doesn't mean he can be an asshole to others.
The problem s they have grown apart.They were this 4 hungry kids,that came up off the street with all their extra baggage. They worked an got famous,but a hey got famous they also grew apart,and the difference in their life style became evident. Along with their different talent and gifts. Gene is shrewd business man and talent spotter. Producer too.
Ace is a guitar player without a stage an not all that bad singer,and song writer..
Peter was good drummer. good singer. As far a song writing goes I don't think he wrote all that much.
Paul is a good singer producer and writer. Wih a huge ego.Just like gene But they've both been smart enough to not piss away their talent.
@@johnnyguitar6639 I never said that, it just means the problems he had with the other guys are not mine or any other outsider's business.
Peter and Ace were both great guys with the fans, Paul was actually very rude and narcissistic and a male diva!!!
All 4 members of the band were dysfunctional it is just that Paul and Gene were more functional in their dysfunction than Ace and Peter
Paul's a massive snowflake. Ask Eddie Trunk. Can't handle any criticism whatsoever.
Paul is an egomaniac, but Eddie Trunk would drop to his knees and blow him if Paul said
YEP...Paul is defiantly a pussy
I grew up listening to kiss as my first favorite rock band. I love the original line up and currently in my view kiss is not kiss. It's a shame they couldn't make it work and stay together. As a society, we ALL have issues of some sort. I've seen gene in some interviews and he seems like a arrogant, narcisitic person but I still enjoy listening to the music he,paul,ace and peter helped to create which played a role in my rock roots. Long live rock!
You're right it's FISS.........fake kiss 😜
When the original Kiss were at their peak, Ace and Peter, were the engine room of the band. they was carrying Gene and Paul imo.
I'd say classic Peter was always a better drummer than Paul ever was a rhythm guitarist
Ace maybe Peter a defo no.
Someone has rose coloured glasses on. Ummmmm, who had the songs?who had the drive?who had the vision? Paul and Gene were driving the train....but all pistons were needed ...in the beginning, Pete was really good, but only for 5 years. The make up put more focus on who was the drummer of the band...unlike any other...but really, Gene and Paul could have chosen any other rock and roll drummer, and the hype would have been the same....probably better, as Pete’s drumming , along with his attitude went downhill quick...
Just like the add on members do today.
Really gene and Paul wrote the music and hired ace and Peter lol but they carried gene and Paul
What's sad is Ace is doing much better than the fake Kiss is and he is going strong.
Ace and Gene have even been jamming together at Gene's Vault Experience meet and greets, reminiscing over all their wacky antics and admitting it wasn't as bad as their autobiographies made it seem. Apparently they've called Peter several times to get him to come along but (as Paul states here), GiGi's been acting as a buffer to keep them away. The only thing stopping the original members from playing together again is Paul and GiGi being manipulative bitches.
He is? He's begging to tour stadiums, he cant even sell out a nightclub
@@ToruKun1 GiGi is very much Peter's other half. She keeps him from working with Gene and Paul since they've ripped him off since the reunion days. Yes Peter screwed around a lot and was often really hard to work with, but Gene and Paul still really screwed him in some of those reunion/farewell deals
Detroiter here, whole family from Detroit (not the Eminem or Kid Rock suburbs). I did not attend this show, but remember the tour. WRIF in Detroit interviewed KISS and it was sold out. Whatever shortcomings as musicians they have, they always seemed to deliver a show worth the money. The squabbles and personalities outside of the show really makes no difference. It's a rock and roll Show. Detroiter here.
You didn't see them there so it doesn't matter that you live near Detroit.
always funny to hear people make the distinction of being from the REAL city instead of the suburbs like claiming the city limits of detroit is a badge of honor or something to be proud of lol. i was born in flint and i hear the same crap like don't say you're from flint when you live in the next town over...okay then, i wasn't born anywhere. you can have the city and all the mess that comes along with it.
I hate how Gene & Paul put down Ace & Peter. I was a Fan from the get go @ 6-7yo. But I did notice Peters drumming. I was shocked at how little his wrist and sticks were moving. It was kinda sad. I was told it was Carpal Tunnel (sp... Sorry). But I guess Paul is trying to sell books so I guess it's OK to throw people under the bus.
Proving that money can't buy happiness.... To much is not enough.... And none of these guys are at peace with themselves.
Sell your soul for rock and roll. All of these guys are mentally disturbed in varying degrees. Gene claims he's never been drunk of high in his life, so he acts like a misogynistic, cash hungry narcissist. Paul is similar. The other guys are simply human with ground based issues.
Anyone who states Peter isn’t a bad guy must have never read his book. He lists all the stupid shit he does and then blames everyone else for his own decisions. I met him and he was an inconsiderate prick. Read Lydia’s book. That says it all.
Mike Magnum BULLSHIT
As they say, money can't buy happiness, but it sure makes misery a lot more comfortable.
Genes still bitter that Peter used to beat him up!!
Peter beat him “ gene” up?
@@BigDaddy-vr2ut Peter used to beat Gene over the head with the Spoiler lol
money changes everything and everyone.
Peter always whimpering “ my arms hurt my shoulders killing me ,let’s cancel tonight”
Peter is a judrool Marmaluca and Gavone. He hits lighter than Delahoya in his garter belt.
@@syngynm5237 Not defending Peter's downward spiral but being a bass player myself I've known lots of drummers over the years. Most of the time their shoulders deteriorate, particularly the rotator cuffs. It tends to happen when they hit their fifties so I don't believe Peter was lying or exaggerating. Sure, he could do one off shows with a few songs but playing a 2 hour set every night must've been murder for him.
@@warptek I respect your pov. It is valid, regarding injuries and age diminishing how well, often and long older players can still do it. I think Criss suffers from age and injury as much as he is impacted because he didn't work his craft over the years.
@@warptek 👍
Paul is a miserable guy he's always putting one of the other band mates down I just listened to Peter's bio and man they treated him like shit they meaning Gene & Paul I know Peter wasn't an angel but he seems like the most genuine and down to earth out of the 4
Drugs.....tin foil on the windows.........but Paul and Gene are the bad guys?
@@AAE-cg1il boo hoo😭 drugs. every other band took drugs him and ace were from brooklyn and the bronx what you expect lol
@@theward2425 But of course the context is in KISS is drug use ok?
No...that's the context.
Ace nods out while putting on makeup?
Yeah..that's an issue.
If other groups do drugs does that have anything to do with what KISS does or expects of it's members?
Of course not...do better in your reasoning.
@@AAE-cg1il yeah, they are. most greedy and self centered figures in music around, and they’re posers.
C'est vrai 💚 Fan de Paul, mais c est fini, il vieillit mal et a toujours critiquer, se prenant pour un Dieu il va aux toilettes comme tout le monde, faudrait lui rappeler .
well cris had his problems and was a only mediocre drummer but he did sing and write their highest charting song so he did bring something to the table
Peter didn't write "Beth". It was written by Stan Penridge from the band Chelsea. Bob Ezrin rearranged it into the song we know today. Stan was nice enough to give Peter a writing credit even though Peter had little to do with it.
@@sandytinky thats some cool info never heard that story i knew he didn't arrange it though either ways kiss would not have the song if jt wasn't for Peter. I wish they had the internet when i was a kid bands were such a mysterie some i never even saw what they even looked like until i saw them live and others only a couple pics from the album covers and some in magazines or tv performances if they were that big. Midnight special was a good one!
Paul's accounts often sound reminiscent of corporate fake news. I wouldn't ever want to meet or be friends with Paul because it sounds as if anything I did, he would bash me for it.
Funny you say that as even Peter said Paul is nice and sweet guy but after he has just shaken your hand he has also taken your wallet and slit your throat and you did not know it. Yes I would say Paul would be a nasty man . Gene though is a nostalgic man and he would love the original lineup but has to appease the King Maker.
Everyone spins. Sounded like he was reading from his book
Michael, you are living in fantasyland. Gene doesn't want to deal with Ace or Peter the same as Paul doesn't want to deal with them. And Peter is the biggest liar out there. He couldn't even make himself look good in his own book.
Terry, that is Paul. It's the audio book.
@@terrycarlton6991 Yes, he was. It's his audio book.
Gee, thanks Paul for introducing Peter to Starbucks, because they r so hard to find and cost crazy amounts of money for a cup of coffee. Did you show him Costco?
they are talking over 20 years ago when starbucks was tiny...
The moment he was shown Costco was the moment everything turned to shit, again.
@@tjclt250r yeah so obscure that even I, living in bumfcuk nowhere, went to one over 20 years ago in the uk. lucky paul was around as peter might have missed out that place of high culture.
Peter played with Ace and Anthrax and must have been nearly 70 a few years ago and played with no triggers. He can still play but more importantly he always had a great vocal. Look at the speed of ticket sales in 1997 when they sold everything out in 10 minutes. They did not even sell out 2017. Like or not Peter and Ace are the draw along with Paul and Gene.
But can he play consistently? It’s one thing to play one show after you’ve had all the time in the world to rest, than it is to perform constantly while on tour.
Peter, my favorite drummer ever and band member of the original lineup, always had the best voice by far, not even close
Has Paul Stanley ever listened to his voice and slow guitar playing even in them days? Also, they sure as hell needed Peter and Ace for a reunion tour obviously, they aren't mad about the insane money that brought in!!!
No doubt Peter's and Ace dependencies were harmful, Paul and Gene were not without their issues. Paul is a huge drama queen and always will be. Gene is 100% money driven and seceding to his "wisdom". That said, Gene is the one that keeps things together. Don't think Peter could make it through even one concert but Ace still can. Let's have one go round with at least Ace back on stage as the original Space Man. Try a one -of concert and see how that goes.
Terry, your views are off. Paul was the one that kept Kiss together when Gene was doing everything else, and the band is back to a partnership now. And the reunion talk is beating a dead horse.
Terry Carlton fuck off wannabe!!!
Ace is all over the place on stage now - he's off key and can't sing. Sorry, any KISS reunion these days would be terrible. Paul is over the hill vocally, and Simmons is looking like a retired fat mobster.
You don't go up by pushing others down.
My Opinion Get off your high horse, Chester.
Paul has a right to his opinion.
My Opinion Let me help you. “Hey dumbass. You’re an idiot. Dimwit.”
Lol. I love getting insulted by those with no language skills. 😘
Michael Stephen then explain Trump
@@mickfunny4185 Still your President.
I love the original line-up, Ace in particular, but even I have to admit that it must get pretty fucking annoying after a while to have to deal with someone who is always drunk or high. It bums me out that Ace could never quite keep his shit together. I often wonder what the 80's and 90's would have been like if Ace and Peter were better behaved and never left the band in the first place.
What's really sad is that they had a second chance and Ace pretty much went right back to the behaviors that sunk him the first time. You would think that a man in his 40's being presented with the chance to regain the millions that he lost would get his shit under control the second time around. But in spite of it all, he gave us some great music. I still think Dark Light is one of his best songs ever.
At least Ace had been sober for over 11 years now. I bet that he does a few more shows with KISS next year. Peter? Well, he's over 70 now, and since Paul is the guy that really controls that band, it seems like Paul is really pissed off at Peter (probably because Peter had some not very flattering things to say about Paul in his book), and although he did say a lot of GOOD things about Paul in his book as well., I doubt that he will be invited.
DanR67 . . . I agree with you re:Dark Light. I have played Dark Light to my KISS hating guitar playing friends and acquintances. Many of them thought that the guitar work, in particular, was by Jimmy Page. They were stunned when I showed them The Elder cover.
Me too Dan. They had so much talent.
Devante, your comment is ridiculous. When two of the members are stoned and can't even show up to the studio, it's up to the other two to cover for them, which they did. Ace and Peter had unsuccessful solo careers for a reason. And if you judge your bands by makeup and costumes, I can understand why you can't comprehend the changes and why.
Paul "wasn't about the money"
Me "🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣"
@@blindmelonstubbly Must've took him all the way to the cleaners-his current net worth is about $200 million less than Gene's.
This honestly breaks my heart to listen to. I’ve heard three interviews now, four with this one where he does nothing but bash Peter.
Regardless, he was fucking up and you had to fire him. That’s fine.
But...there was no need to air all this dirty laundry. All this bashing...this was someone who was a part of your life, your legacy, your band...enough is enough.
Just let that shit go and stop talking so much trash.
Still find it hard to believe that Peter never had been to a shitty Starbucks and being Italian not eating a Biscottie. I call BS on this one.
this title will never not make me laugh. I randomly think of it during the day. it's the psychopath bit.
Yeah MAGIC with Ace & Peter. Nothing without them
Okay Paul why rip on the guys who revived you career and made the Hottest Band In The World Hot again. I saw the Reunion Tour and all were good and I saw Peter,s solo and it was the best I had ever heard him or any drummer in Kiss play before! Now why wait until now to tell these stories ? Okay so he and Ace are not class acts but you need all four more as much as you dislike each other! The current band is a parody and has tainted the legacy beyond ever being what is once was! I don't doubt Peter & Ace doing what they did as all of a sudden they were big shots again and played up to it knowing they had the two (Jews) in a corner. The Farewell should have been it . Sad that this is now a Soap Opera !
How long have you been playing drums?
Eric Carr is and was the best drummer KISS ever had!
Paul Gene Ace and Peter are old men now, what's done in the past won't change, would be nice if they could forget it and respect each other while there's still time
Gene and Paul....literally couldn't get booked on a real tour until Ace and Peter came back. Those two fools resorted to taking over the fan conventions and upcharging everything in sight. Gene and Paul literally owe their Kurrent Kiss Kover Klub to Ace and Peter for giving them one last go around. Their "keeping the brand alive" was 100 percent delusional. They were dead as Kizz Koffins until the two trouble makers came back. Paul should refer to them as the two cash generators because its the literal truth.
headlesssoldier No one knew who Ace and Peter were. It was the word “reunion,” as well the makeup. You could dress anyone in those clown suits and make a mint. Like they do now.
Bullshit. All the real KIS fans knew them. And they are not making much money now and have to co-headline tours with Def Leppard and others.
CelestialWoodway If Ace and Catpiss came back now, it wouldn’t have half the effect it did in 96. That ship sailed along time ago. People would demand their money back.
Those weren’t real Kiss fans in 96 either. Most were people just looking for an event. Think I’m wrong? Where were the real fans in 81 and 82? Where were the real fans in 94? Real fan, bullshit. Sounds more like fair weather fans.
Kiss plays to more people now than they did in the 70s. I say that with no bias for current Kiss. Kiss’s best period was 73-75. Anything after Bob Ezrin got a hold of them sucks, except COTN.
But, Kiss is more successful now than they’ve ever been in terms of tours. But I wouldn’t see them. Paul sounds like he swallowed razor spooge. Roll Catpiss and Ace in there and it’d be a geriatric horror show.
Yep they were going downhill and probably would've disbanded already if it hadn't been for the reunion
headlesssoldier Finally a true knowledgeable fan of kiss. Kiss doesn't make 1/16 of the cash they made on the reunion tour without Ace and Peter.
I couldn't f**king believe the title of this video.
Paul never gets tired of hearing his own voice.
I don't know what went on in KISS but it's gotten to the point where I just don't care anymore.
KISS to me are a historic band which ended when Ace left, no offence to Vinnie, Mark, Bruce or Tommy.
The Reunion Tour should have been the end of it.
Instead Paul and Gene kept it going and ruined the band's legacy.
I don't know why I watched any of this as I've no interest in Kiss and gave up when the narrator, after about a minute, implied that drinking in Starbucks made you in someway cultured.
You're too dumb to understand.
Paul's problem is that he remained stuck in rock music. Music for damaged people like Ace and Peter.
Can we acknowledge what a genius Ace is? That dude fake a gunshot wound to get drugs. That's creative for sure.
The wound was real. He was shooting with his cousin. To your point, he probably didn't need pain meds, just antibiotics.
All the guys in kiss sit around judging each other. Their growth became stunted by being in a rock band. They all act like each others boss/judge/creator. lol
2:25 : the way he talks about "this version" of Kiss. As if all other versions are just as valid, but for some unknown reason fans like "this version" the best. Sounds like he still doesn't know why. I think in his mind "Heavens on Fire" is just as good as "Strutter". "Crazy Nights" is just as good as "I Want You". Then at 5:20 : "We had always had a drum solo during the Alive years" ....? and the other years? I've never known Kiss to not have a drum solo. I've never seen Kiss live where there wasn't a drum solo. Not sure why he's making that distinction.
The best part of a current Kiss show is the Who medley in the middle and the best thing Eric has played in years !
No drum solo on the last tour
They made millions on all those songs.The KISS Army bought them all!
Peter probably didn't make much But Ace made money with Frehleys Comet. So he made more than squat.
You have to realize, Peter was living under a bridge, panhandlin for pocket change for years after he was kicked out of kiss. I'm not surprised that he was freaking out at the taste of starbucks. Living under the bridge, he was probably lucky to get a cup of folgers coffee.
He had to settle for Cock Full o' Nuts. Which tastes like brewed squirrel turds.
That wasn’t him. It was a imposter and he confronted him wayyyyy back when on Donahue
Look up Peter criss imposter on CZcams that wasn't him dudes name is Chris dickenson
Yea Paul your just the best just ask you cause your the only one who thinks so.
guess what Paul...nobody cares how you feel
sounds like Peter has emotional issues and could use some therapy
Paul is definitely right about Peter's use of triggers during the reunion. In every piece of footage he's hardly moving
singer uses them too
Does Paul ever critique any of his bullshit? Voice has went into the toilet, and by the way never better than Pete's anyway, and guitar 🎸 flat cords and average at best? Try again Paul Hitler!!!! Lol 🤣
Peter Criss is so happy for that biscotti. 😂
PS saying that reminds me of that newspaper article about a lady who said she wears whatever to the Dollar Store and doesn't bother to get dressed up like she does for Walmart. 🤣
Paul is so mean. Unnecessarily in many instances. You can tell hes not an easy person to be in a band with, but for the mot part sounds like he doesnt think his shit stinks.
you're talking about Gene, not Paul.
Puertecitos68 they both are that way
Jim Foxx, no they are not "both" that way. I worked with Paul and so I was around all of them. Peter wasn't so bad. Paul was polite until you start getting goofy. Ace was not so bad and was the quietest. Gene was the big asshole. Couldn't do nothing right with Gene. Gene is a collector of his own feces which he plans to have fossilized and available for people to buy thousands of years from now, to remember Kiss's "Demon".....
well i must say it's pretty cool that you got to work with paul. i've kind of wanted to meet ace myself but i've heard people say he's not nice and then i hear other people say he's a sweetheart
I don't think Paul likes his own Band He thinks he is KIss
I met Paul with another fan at the motel Kiss were staying in. He refused to sign my Album . I told him that I was a fan of Kiss for over 30yrs and had been at the Original 1980 Australian tour . He still refused to sign
Paul and Gene always say without the fans there would be no band. I guess they only care if they can charge fans for everything even for an autograph.
Same here. Drove 6 hrs to see him on his Live to Win solo tour in '06(?)
Waited outside the bus for a couple of hrs in the afternoon. He comes out, I ask him to sign a cd of his new album, and he walked away.
One thing is clear...no one loves Paul as much as Paul does. He also sounds like friggin’ robot reading this.
shinner65 fuck off
Randy Hutchinson right back at ya, dipshit!
his reading sounds fine - you are wrong
7777Scion my opinion is my opinion. Who the fuck are you to tell me I’m wrong
I am the boss of you, that's why. I tell you to jump, you say "How high, Sir?" I tell you to run, you say "How far, Sir?" etc. etc. I will give you your opinion and you will damn glad I did.
I saw the 90's reunion tour in Montreal and it was awesome. It was my 70's childhood dream come to life. All my favorite Kiss songs are from that line up plus some from their time with Vinnie. I never really liked the 80s stuff, Animalize was ok but after that, stuff like Let's Put the X in Sex was very cheese, those kinds of songs allowed Grunge to take over the scene so easily. It's sad to see them all shitting on each other because they are my childhood heroes. If I go see a Kiss tribute band, I want to see the 70's stuff and that's all. Seeing the 70s style line up doing Heaven's on Fire is bad. Peter is/ was fucking awesome, ok so he's old now, that's how life works. I felt bad for Peter when they let Eric Carr sing Beth on Smashes Thrashes and Hits, that was really lame. Same thing with not letting Steven Adler into the GNR reunion tour, it's fucking bullshit because each of those guys were stand out characters that had a hand in making those bands become successful.
Peter looks like Paul Shaffer with a muskrat on his head (in the thumbnail)..
Oh lord... Paul...STICK IT.
An Ace Frehley concert has been far better than a KIss concert for many years now.
The numbers don’t show it.
There's usually more people at a Jay Z concert than most rock concerts, number of attendees means nothing in regards to quality
Damn what are u smokin?
...and without lip syncing too
Paula's audiobook is nothing short of comical. His condescending pomposity is so off the charts, its hilarious
Criss was disliked by Kiss's other three members.
Thus, it's Criss who is the dud, not Stanley.
Sounds like an old queen, just airing the dirty laundry, from so many years in the closet.
Shes a mess! Lol
Haha true... I'm straight and I can barely remember yesterday. However, this audio is still hilarious and a lot of what he says rings true about Gene being self-centered. I used to be in a band and my bandmates were pretty egotistical to the point of this kinda sh*t. Still funny.
Seriously...I wish that Paul would talk about his own personality flaws too. I mean he blast Ace, Peter, Vinnie and even Gene for less than perfect behavior but what about himself? I never hear him be as harsh to himself as he is to others like he's some kind of flawless messiah. Seriously, Paul's lack of self awareness and culpability for his own rude, uncultured behavior is a huge reason why I'm not quite cozy with him. Seriously, at least Peter had the decency to won up to every crappy thing he's done in the past in his own book. What about Mr. Perfect Paul Stanley?
Obviously, you've never read Paul's book.
Just listening to him you know hes a douche. Criss was a great talent. Ace couldnt play.
If that's true, then why did different producers replace Criss on songs and why did his solo career fail miserably?
In a different forum, Paul would...like in his book he does. The thing is why he has to talk about Peter and Ace is because it's a huge story about them being ousted out of the hugest band around. They have to give reasons why, you know. It was a huge deal to have to fire the 2 original members...so there are many accounts of their own inadequecies stating what had happened.
yeah right man. for someone who was bullied about his ear you would think would be less critical about everyone and everything.
You would think that by now they would all realize how lucky they’ve been, but absolutely knowing it took all 4 of them to create, become, and accomplish all they have..They very well may bff e the damn luckiest 4 guys on earth...
The Biscotti Incident is the funniest thing I've heard all year!
Yes, Peter was co-dependent, and still is to this day. Paul is trying to explain their comeback and how grateful everyone should be, but Pete is ALWAYS self destructive, eventually. Not entirely his fault, but once you are old enough, you need to take responsibility for your actions.
Gerber Bernstein well spoken Sir, Bravo, thankyou
Bullshit, Peter was amazing!!! This is another Paul Stanley bashing tour, scumbag
Blah, blah, blah!!!!! Delusional narcissistic sociopath asshole!!!!
saw them in montreal.. ace was drunk as hell..would drink mini tia maria besides the stage.. had problems standing up but his playing was ok..
Ace me fera toujours rire 😄
The best interview ever with Paul Stanley is from the Joe Rogan podcast! Paul opens up and actually doesn’t point fingers , check it out
The 4 original members just never clicked. At least they gave us that reunion tour and a few years after. But I don't think I could stand being around a guy like Paul for many years either
Eric Carr was the best drummer KISS has ever had!
And Paul treated him like shit too, to the point where Eric refused to talk to him for a whole tour.
ToruKun1 I never heard that, but did hear Paul fought Gene over paying Eric's medical bills . Gene did not want to pay them.
I saw Eric Carr on the crazy nights tour playing his massive chrome drum kit he was amazing ✔
The Fox was, is and will always be KISS's #1 Drummer
@@rustyblades2566 Peter is the best drummer Kiss ever had.
I wouldn't call him a pychopath
Paul Stanley this, Paul Stanley that, Paul Stanley the other....
I know it's an auto-biography, but this guy has an ego bigger than the solar system.
Little Peteer had never even tried a biscotti. Oh man. Thats wild. I had biscotti since i was a young boy
Paul's ego knows no bounds
Mike m No Paul, no KISS.
Mike m. Nor should it. His dedication to the band kept them afloat for forty years. Peter and Ace lost interest in the 70s. Gene lost interest in the 80s. Say what you will about the quality of their output since 77, the only reason Kiss exists is because of Paul. Not Peter, not Ace, not Gene. Paul.
Marty White I'm a fan of kiss I have most of the albums and DVDs and the lineup with Tommy and Eric is the best they have ever been, a little more humility would be a good thing
Marty, those are some true words. Respect.
Amen, the only one in attendance for every recording session, was Paul.
Paul said Bithcotti......lol!!!
"I took him to a steak restaurant and he ordered chicken!"- Paul Stanley
I can't stop there!!! They made a noble however failed attempt to be something they could never be. A creative band. Elder! Most of us just want to rock!
Dont care what anyone says..i saw the farewell tour..peter and ace sucked. Those 2 were pains in the ass.
I agree. I was so underwhelmed. I saw them on the Farewell Tour and they were better, but nowhere as good as Kulick, Singer, Carr, etc.
While Im pretty convinced it would have been a blast partying with Ace or Peter in 70s I am also totally convinced working with them was not. Still for me it was always the music even if I like the visuals as well. But only the 70s, to me they havent really done anything relevant after 1982. My 5 cents. 🤘❤
I agree, having enjoyed them since the 70s and catching them in Houston (Love Gun 77), it was always the music. The makeup and show may have helped them gain attention, it also worked against them, I think. By 1979, I felt KISS was for preteens.
After 1978 !!
Mark Chang your comment too is trash
More like 1978 -- you really gonna throw down over "dynasty' and the "four faces" garbage. They owe you me and everyone in America money over that crap.
I don't think Dynasty is the worst they have released to be honest. Ace's song are all good and there's a couple more on the album that is OK. I think the real disaster was later in the 80's when Paul Stanley wanted be Paul Bon Jovi... :D
My first concert was kiss w peter framton in detroit , best ever, ahh the good ole days !!! Rock on , it seems when criss came out w his album all hell broke loose !!
Ace actually did make some money with Frehley's Comet in the late 80's. I know he was still drinking and doing some other things, but Frehley's Comet toured pretty well during that time. It's not accurate that he didn't make ant money apart from KISS.
There's a lot more we don't see or hear about. Peter never wanted the glam or glitz that came with KISS. If you told the band before they became famous that KISS would be the star attraction at concert venues in the late 70s, Peter probably would have walked out then. Not everyone wants that lifestyle. Peter didn't. Listen to his solo album, it's laid back. He wanted out after KISS got famous, but Gene and Paul wanted nothing of it. So what would you do if you got depressed? Drink right? Gene and Paul loved the limelight, reveled in it. But, they knew KISS wouldn't survive long if Peter/Ace left the band. That's probably when they decided to remove the makeup, to make it easier to make the changes after that. It was successful to some degree, but remember, to this day Beth is the best selling single of all of KISS' playlist and that pisses off both Gene and Paul. Beth started the Power Ballad movement for the next 20 years. To this day, Peter still did it the best.
Bullshit Peter knew what they wanted and said he would do anything to make it. He got it but he wanted to live the excess and it got him even Ace got fed up with him. But the original is still the best .
He did get it, and I think that's what Peter wasn't ready for...was that once he got it, he found he hated most of it, or at least enough of it that he was conflicted about it, and it brought out bad things in his personality.
Patrick, what do you base this opinion on? Because it's definitely not Peter's or Lydia's or Kiss' books and interviews, that's for sure. His solo album? Seriously?
I based it on quotes of his before and after KISS. Keep in mind Peter and Ace were brought in based on ads Gene and Paul placed. Gene and Paul had always envisioned more than making music. Once it became apparent that KISS was going to earn more than the music (concerts and merchandising), Peter really started to see things differently. Really once KISS got so big they got their own movie, Gene and Paul started to see the band differently. Peter just wanted to play and record. Have a good time. Gene and Paul saw an empire with them on top. What most don't know is Gene and Paul saw themselves KISS with Peter and Ace as backup musicians. Gene and Paul were pissed when Ace had more success than either of them with his solo album. That moment is what caused the fracture in the band. Gene and Paul wanted to go one way and Peter didn't.
Um, no. First off, Genes solo album charted the highest. Secondly, if it was all about the music for Ace and Peter, then why were they blowing off sessions and spending all their time doing anything but working? Both of them had unsuccessful solo careers and horrible reputations in the business for a reason.
Sounds like this has been edited to diss Ace and Peter.
Robert Weedman Kind of, but I think it’s been edited to make Paul look like a whiny, intolerant douchebag.
Agreed. It was a symbiotic relationship for Gene and Paul to recapture the fame and wealth, they had to put up with Peter and Ace, and their old habits. It worked for a while, but Peter and Ace had problems they refused to deal with.
Phillip H Anselmo If you call being truthful about Peter complaining, then yes, he does it the whole book. I think they should rehire him just to fire him again.
Fire him again, lol. Complainers and whiners like Pete, wear you down after a while.
@@martywhite1084 That's for sure. With a capital "D" in Douchebag.
I think the best way to describe Peter Criss is...the 3rd best drummer Kiss ever had.
Both Peter and Ace abused drugs and alcohol for 4 decades and risked the Kiss brand
peter criss sound really *cool*
He sounds like a dumb arse.
OK, people trigger their drums. That is not uncommon. Even Billy Cobham likes to be mic'ed up loud so he doesn't have to sacrifice his technique. The fastest metal drummers in the world usually use triggers. So I'm going to have to say Paul is a little ignorant about his craft in terms of drums. Peter was doing exactly what you do with triggers. You hit them hard enough but no harder. This allows you to have fluidity and speed. And yeah as you get old you're not as strong and you were. But in this situation strength has nothing to do with it. Once you trigger a drum that variable is removed.
Yes he made out Peter was lame and I saw the Reunion Tour and that drum solo was great better than any other Kiss Drummer has ever done! This is sour grapes from a man who has gotten his ego over inflated .
Almost sounded like they did it without Peter's knowledge. At least initially
Peter's playing was garbage on the Reunion tour. His tempos dragged and he played nowhere as good as he used to. It was sad.
Lance E that's bullshit! I was there! It was amazing!
I've noticed that he was hitting the drums very softly in the 90s
This shit is so funny. He just lowers the boom on Criss in so many of these excerpts.
Speaking of a “Buffer” Paul Stanley is a Pickle Buffer
Necesary Evil better to be a buffer than a fluffer
I sucked nobody's Dick!!!
HYOOO LOL
Ace Frehley Why do you have a Stratocaster as your profile picture ? You are a Les Paul guy
A fan gave me that Guitar it had my face on it so I made it my profile picture.
The fact of the matter is, Paul drank also. But Paul don't like to speak about what Paul has done. Paul likes to run Paul's mouth about everyone but Paul. My just how long is Paul's arm to pat himself on his back just for being Paul.
So, obviously, you haven't read his book.
Paul ate A LOT of potato salad during that tour.
I guess now is a good time to point out that Beth made an absolute fuckton of money and the only reason I even liked kiss was Peter's ragged assed drumming and Aces raw "cats-fucking on the pickups" Style. For me, Ace is the archetypical rock and roll guitarist and without the opiates it ain't ever gonna be the same. Paul and Gene were too busy trying to get laid, Peter and Ace absolutely carried the band into the 80's.