The Khmelnytsky Uprising and the Zaporizhian Hetmanate
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In 1648 the Ukrainian Cossacks of the Zaporizhian Host (also known as the Zaporozhian Host), led by Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky (aka Khmel'nits'kyi or Chmielnicki), rose up against the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, founding the first internationally recognized Ukrainian state, the Zaporizhian Hetmanate or Rus' State (Hosudarstvo rosiiske). This video is a part of #ProjectUkraine, a HistoryTube collaboration aimed at raising awareness of Ukrainian History and raising funds for Ukraine relief efforts. We have partnered up with the Babyn Yar Holocaust Memorial Centre in Kyiv, which was bombed by the Russian troops at the start of the invasion. Today, the foundation has transformed its projects, refocusing its resources and efforts on purchasing and delivering humanitarian aid to civilians, and evacuating people from combat zones. In the first week of April, the centre provided over 7000 food baskets to patients and doctors at Kyiv hospitals, to bomb shelters in the Kyiv underground, as well as to people with disabilities and elderly people who cannot leave their homes. They also provided targeted assistance to 3354 people, delivering specific medications, food and hygiene products on individual requests. We hope that viewers would consider donating to this noble cause and help with the humanitarian situation in Ukraine.
0:00 #Project Ukraine Intro
1:14 Topic Introduction
1:53 Background
2:57 The Cossacks
5:43 The Spark
8:02 The Rebellion
11:06 Declaration of Independence
12:42 The Russian Alliance
15:34 The Russo-Polish War and the Ruin
18:58 Aftermath
20:47 Citations
Corrections:
07:07 I decided while in the process of recording to pronounce Warsaw based on how Polish spelling is usually pronounced... without realizing that "Warsaw" isn't actually a Polish spelling at all. The city is called Warszawa in Polish, pronounced "Var-Shah-Vah".
15:42 The EAST Bank, not the West Bank. I got mixed up somewhere along the line because of how maps are oriented with the West on the Left and the East on the Right, but the designations of Left Bank and Right Bank are from the perspective of someone looking down the Dnieper.
18:41 Once again, I got mixed up about which side was left, flip these: Yuri got pushed to the Right Bank (West), while the Left Bank (East) fell under Russian authority.
Such a small channel you really deserve more attention I hope this playlist brings it
Thank you!
A spurisingly great coverage of this complicated subject. The two things that perhaps could be added are the Crimean-Nogai Tatar slave raids on Ukraine (kinda mentioned but already in the middle of the main conflict and without much explanation) and on the other hand the Cossack raids on Ottoman territory. However, there was already way more details and insight here than I expected from a relatively short CZcams video. Great job!
Fun fact: the picture at 6:40 is Polish-Jewish artist's Artur Szyk interpretation of the first recorded Polish-Americans arriving in Jamestown, where they promptly started the first recorded labor strike in America, to obtain equal rights with the English settlers.
Thank you! I considered talking a bit about the Tatar slave raiding economy, but didn't want to overload the video with surrounding context, so I just made a brief mention of Tatars taking Jewish slaves. I also didn't go into the relationship of the Crimean Khanate to the Ottomans for similar reasons. These topics are covered in some of the other videos of Project Ukraine, like Hikma History and Al Muqaddimah 's videos about the Tatars, so I'd encourage you to check those out if you haven't seen them!
@@SomasAcademy What a pile of cr^p. If you called Khmelnitsky Ukrainian at that time, he would slice you to pieces. Or something more imaginative.
A very good job of compiling the facts of the whole topic. The breakoff and hostility between the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Cossack Rus was a great mistake that cost both parties a lot of blood and ultimately took their freedom.
Yup and the effects of that whole mess are still being felt today
So proud to be part of #ProjectUkraine =) amazing videos by all the great content creators! 🇺🇦
Great video! My Dutch Ashkenazi ancestors migrated to Amsterdam because of the Khmelnytsky Uprising and it makes it so much more interesting knowing the in-depth story.
Wishing the charity all the best!
As a Ukrainian living in the West, delving into the history it is apparent that Khmelnytsky's legacy will always be complex and divisive. On one hand he is seen as a patriot as an early Ukrainian charismatic leader pushing for greater rights under Polish rule and ultimately rebelling against it. However, his name will always be linked to the large pogrom against the Jewish population -regardless of how much the atrocities were actually under his control. Finally, due to his alliance with Muscovy, his name is ironically often brandished by the Russians as symbolizing an eternal link between Ukraine and Russia - which they maintain justifies such things as the invasion of 2022.
This is by far the most thorough video I've came upon this subject. Great work! 👏👍
For me as a Pole, with some knowledge of the subject, it was still very interesting to see the complicated issues explained from a different perspective. Good maps, good background photos & videos (The Zaporozhya's Sicz clips are great!). Kudos!
P.S. Just a sidenote: could you please perhaps coisider speaking slightly slower in future videos? 🙂 [Yes, I know it's possible to set speed of the video, but at 0.75 speed it already sounds artificial (as if lector was a bit drunk 😉) ].
Thank you!
I do have a habit of speaking too quickly in my videos (which makes me stumble over my words a lot, I have so many mistakes to cut out of every recording), apologies about that lmao. It may be because I personally watch all videos at double- speed (I have a short attention span lmao), which has probably warped my idea of how fast people are supposed to talk in videos. Thank you for the suggestion, I'll try to speak more slowly in the future!
@@SomasAcademy I have the same habit for the most part (though "just" 1.5 usually 😆). And I guess some youtubers do record videos in their 'normal' pace and afterwards slow it down for videos. This sounds strange later on. I guess it would be better to practice slower pace oryginally. You have grat potential for superb videos so fingers crossed! 😎🤩
Just learned about project Ukraine. Due to a deep confusion that my country was treated as a small Russia in the past I can not express how I’m feeling now, when people all over the world are making videos about Ukrainian history. Just thank you - I hope this project would reach many people.
Bro. Without Russia you would have been under the Ottomans/ tartars or part of Poland. Yall are all part of descendants of the Rus( ukranians russians and belarussians)
It’s about time you got featured in a Kings and Generals collaboration. Great content as usual!
Thank you!
I don't know how accurate they are, but hearing your pronunciations of Polish and Ukrainian names is music to my ears.
I'm not sure about all of them, but I got a Ukrainian acquaintance to check my pronunciation for most of the Ukrainian words. A Polish commenter said I was spot on with all the Polish names, except for my pronunciation of "Warsaw" as "Vorsov" - basically, I realized while recording that Polish W's are pronounced like V's, and just pronounced Warsaw like I normally would but with V sounds instead. What I didn't realize is that the actual Polish spelling is different, "Warszawa," which is pronounced like "Var-sha-va".
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention it but it's clear that much effort has been put into getting the pronunciation right.
Awesome summary, please more of that!
What a underrated channel!!!!
Thank you!
More content like this one and it will fly like an eagle ;) soon!
342 followers!?
You're so underrated!
Thank you! That number was 290 this morning though lmao, this collab has brought me a bunch of new ones.
@@SomasAcademy I remember watching your video about Kano Sugako a while ago after I read what she wrote before she died. But I never thought to subscribe. I'm now watching your Ito Noe video. I'll make my way to watching your other videos eventually.
Great, now I need to start playing With Fire and Sword again. A great Mount and Blade expansion set during this period. Be a Cossack, smack some Tatars, get smacked by Hussars.
great video, thank you!
Thank you for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed!
The Khmelnytsky Uprising (Polish: powstanie Chmielnickiego; in Ukraine known as Khmelʹnychchyna also known as the Cossack-Polish War, the Chmielnicki Uprising, the Khmelnytsky massacre or the Khmelnytsky insurrection, was a Cossack rebellion that took place between 1648 and 1657 in the eastern territories of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, which led to the creation of a Cossack Hetmanate in Ukraine.
Thank you, so informative, well done Project Ukraine
I am so grateful for Project Ukraine. Not just because it makes giving aid easier, but it also exposes me to so many awesome YTers as well. You have another subscriber!
Thank you for covering this topic. Greetings from Ukraine
I bet Bogdan regrets now his decision to unite with Moscow...
From his perspective it was just a military alliance, and he quickly came to regret it when he saw Moscow trying to assert domination over Ukraine!
We all regret it...been regretting it for centuries!
By subjugating Ukraine, Russia (Moscovi at that time) soon became an Empire. The whole world should regret his decision (
You are right. Death is a better choice than slavery either to Poland or Russia. Russians and their Don slaves can enjoy their little propaganda victory in Mariupol. Donetsk and Luhansk will fall to the democratic government of Kyiv when the year ends.
@@justinemot2282 Choice was to go back being slaves of Poles. Know Iron Felix? Donetsk people were given a choice to serve Iron Felix and his khan Lenin in 1917-1922, they chose to once again bow down.
Ukraine: exists
literally any empire near by: free food boys
Great video!
Let this video reach the spread it deserves ;)
Thank you!
Very nice
nice one
Interesting and informative , indeed the land pirates of Europe
The Zaporozhian Cossacks were actually conducting Sea raids against the Ottoman Empire.
BTW They obviously didn't consult the Polish authorities while conducting them. You might imagine that when a bunch of nominal Polish subjects showed up on some boats burning and pillaging the suburbs of Constantinople (Istanbul) itself it was complicating the Polish-Lithuanian diplomatic relations with the Ottomans, which was one of major factors behind the rising tensions leading to the 1648 Uprising.
@@Artur_M. alright then
Sea and land pirates
Makes you wonder why they didn't explode like the Mongol
There's a polish movie called with fire and sword depicting these events. Chmielnitsky, uprising battles both won and lost by cossacs. Tatars and winged hussars on actual horses and not CGI like we have it nowadays.
If you can suffer through polish language with subtitles lol it's gonna be worth looking into. Lovable characters and "different" kind of cinema were used to.
And books are on a whole different level too. But I'm polish so don't take my word for it, I'm biased xD
The book is heavily biased towards the Poles, and it skips several important events never mentioning the Russian pressure on either the Cossacks or the Poles. It also decides to cut the plot off in a very peculiar spot that hardly represents the true ending of the uprising.
The reasons for this are, as I'm sure you are aware, two-fold. For one, the book was never meant to represent historical reality. The "Ku pokrzepieniu serc" ("Towards strengthening hearts") line holds very true here. This is obvious with the frankly very bland, paragon-style character of Jan Skrzetuski (the historical Mikołaj Skrzetuski, a Greater-Polish noble, was far from virtuous), and the *heavily* white-washed duke Jeremi Wiśniowiecki. The book was also under strict Russia censorship as Russia-occupied Poland was hardly the place for free speech to be respected.
The movie itself is also not really accurate and, whilst approachable for a first viewing, not all that great either. It has the quality of a B-movie by American standards, the acting is sometimes woody, the dialogue cheesy and/or filled with ridiculous amounts of pathos, and the romantic subplot is very poor (though those last two are very indicative of Sienkiewicz himself and it's nigh-impossible to adapt his works without running into those problems). The film won't really impress military historians either, as whilst modern hussar representations are (is, I don't think there was one since the Russian-made "1612" movie) done partially with CGI, at least they depict the actual tactics used. "With Fire and Sword" just has a bunch of dudes in a blob riding in approximately the same direction. Then again, there has never been a fully accurate representation of 17th century Polish-Lithuanian hussars in film history, so there's that.
Thank you for the great video.
Several corrections:
Left bank Ukraine is the Eastern part since Dnieper flows from the north to south and its left bank is to the east while right bank is to the west.
There were a lot other Cossack rebellions before Khmelnytskyi uprisings. They were bloody and unsuccessful in long-term perspective.
Khmelnytskyi founded the state known as Hetmanate in the West. In fact this state was simply called the Zaporizhian Host. And there was one more quasi-state - independent republic of Zaporizhian Cossacks, led by otaman (the great leader). Originally Khmelnytskyi was a hetman (simply the person who leads an army). But after his victories he started to build his own state and the title Hetman received another meaning (more like Prince or Duke). While Hetmanate was controlled by Russia at least indirectly, Zaporizhian Cossacks republic was not controlled by Russia at all for a long time and Russia even constructed a line of fortresses in order to separate the regions and to stop Ruthenian migration to Zaporizhia.
Oh my goodness, that left-bank right-bank mixup was such a silly mistake on my part, I can't believe I didn't catch that before finishing the video! Thank you for the correction.
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Video: "Kings and Generals..."
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This is great content, Mad respect for the participation in #ProjectUkraine you have earned yourself a new sub. Слава Україні!
Thank you! Героям слава!
When i was a kid, I read a terrific historical novel about the Cossack-Tartar uprising against the Poles entitled With Fire And Sword, translated from the Polish. A great read.
nice
I think you shouldve mentioned how the character of the rebelion wasnt clear from the beggining.
With Khmelnytsky at first claiming to be rebelling against polish nobility in accordance with the wishes of the previous king. He claimed he was loyal to the PLC and was recognised as a citizen and even Hetman by the PLC. Later the character turned into an idependance war as negotations didnt bring much fruit.
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In Yidish and Hebrew , Cossacks are used in an expression to mean robber. The robbed Cossack, the robbed robber
It's a good and balanced video. One thing I should note, many miss the fact that Moscow was the latest ally Khmelnytskyi tried. The first and most important were the Ottomans, but unfortunately, in 1648, Ibrahim the Mad was replaced with a 6-years old Mehmed IV. The next was Moldova, and Khmelnytskyi lost his son in this campaign. There were also Transylvania and Sweden. Union with Moscow was an act of desperation. Common people and part of the clergy probably thought, "Ah, OK, they are Christian Orthodox also," more experienced and educated people never liked tyrannical Moscow.
The Ottomans were an ally of Khmelnytsky through their Crimean Vassals, but I left out mention of them to avoid getting into too many complexities of 17th century Eastern European geopolitics. I wasn't aware that he'd reached out to those other powers prior to his alliance with Moscow, though.
@@SomasAcademy Sweden was actually his preferred choice. Even after allying with Moscow, he wrote favorably of their honesty compared to that of Moscow. The alliance finally realized itself under the time of Hetman Ivan Mazepa.
Even after the Swedes were defeated, his successor Pylyp Orlyk followed the Swedes into Moldavia where he wrote a constitution declaring himself the protector of Ukraine and a Swedish subject. After the war, he also moved to Sweden and was given a pension.
@@ThePassionFwuit Interesting!
now ,we are Brothers and Sisters more when then!!! PLUA
Only reason why Poland has not pulled another 1768 is because of Biden and Johnson. Duda is a good man like many of them but large part still worship power instead of individual rights. Ukrainian cossacks just always asked for svoboda. Free men do not enslave anyone because their ancestors once were slaves.
Not that I'm in any way qualified to assess the accuracy of your pronunciation of the words/names mentioned in this video, but I really love the effort. It is great to hear the real pronunciation and not just the anglicised versions.
Also glad that you didn't whitewash the history, while at the same time not demonising Ukrainians. You handled it well imo. 💯
Thank you! I talked to Ukrainian to try and get most of my Ukrainian words right, though I must admit, I flipped back and forth between the Russian and Ukrainian pronunciations for Khmelnytsky throughout the video (Russian is more Khmel-nEEt-sky, Ukrainian is Khmel-nit-sky)
For the Polish names - the pronounciation is spot-on! (with just one minor exception of "Vorsov" ;) instad of Warsaw at 7:06, but this is really no big deal 😃 ).
@@pluki1357 Thanks for letting me know about Warsaw/Warszawa lmao, I just assumed the W's would be pronounced like English V's and didn't think to check the native spelling or pronunciation.
🎉
Like for Kyiv
13:05 Based
Good story but not fully accurate: the first (Ukrainian) Cossacks were boat riders and did not have horse-riding skills. According to Cossack legends (not necessarily historically accurate), they originated from Khazars (who actually had Jewish faith). In reality, Cossack communities were democratic and accepted people of all ethnic and racial backgrounds (Ukrainians, Poles, Russians, Jews, ...) who shared their values and were prepared to serve in the army. Cossacks, who generally were well-educated, should not be confused with rebelling peasants. It is true, however, that Khmelnitsky was a controversial figure in Ukrainian history.
Cossacks participated in boat piracy, but none of the sources I've read said anything about them originating as boatmen before their adoption of horse-riding. As I say in the video, the exact origins of the Cossacks are not clear, as they may have continuity from older steppe populations like the Cumans/Kipchaks, or may have originated with Rus' and other Eastern European groups assimilating into Tatar bands or imitating their lifestyle. They did indeed accept people from all backgrounds into their fold, as I reference in the video with the mention of runaway serfs joining them and the fact that they were defined by their lifestyle over anything else (Jabzy goes a bit more into that topic in his video, though, discussing examples of Jewish Cossacks).
@@SomasAcademy The Cossack army lacked cavalry, at least initially, and often had to cooperate with other armies (i.e. Polacks or Tatars --- Tatars were excellent horse riders). The Cossack army headquarters -Zaporozhian Sich (Host)-was located on an island (accessible only by boats) and could not possibly station cavalry. I agree: the influx of steppe people into Cossacks is quite likely.
Heh, how come Polish szlachta started to settle in Ruthenia when nearly all the nobles there were Ruthenians?
On the map of biggest possessions of Polish magnates in 16th-17th centuries there are only 2 names of not Ruthenian origin (Zamoyscy - Polish, Radziwiłłowie - Lithuenian).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnates_of_Poland_and_Lithuania#/media/File:IRPmagnates1.PNG
More here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnates_of_Poland_and_Lithuania
Taking this map to mean those were the only slachta would give you the impression that there were only 6 noble families in the Commonwealth. In reality, this map shows only Magnates, a small, powerful section of the nobility. There were many, many more families with much smaller holdings and less individual influence, and some of these families began to settle in Ruthenia during the 17th century, in accordance with a general trend toward resettlement of core populations in frontier regions which was becoming popular in Eastern Europe during this time (Russia as well as Poland-Lithuania).
@@SomasAcademy All the nobles of Ruthenia, powerful and small, preserved their priviliges when were incorporated by PL-LT Commonwealth. Act of Horodlo Union in 1413 guaranteed that, and more priviliges came later. PL-LT Commonwealth was very attractive for Ruthenian nobles, also culturally. Many Polish historical persons names of 19th century indicate Ruthenian origin (Kościuszko - Костя, Mickiewicz - Mićka - Дмитро, Sienkiewicz - Sieńka - Семен). Needless to say, many of those nobles became strongly Francophile and began to speak French as main language in 18th century.
Fugitives that fled to Ukraine in 17th century were treated as criminals by those Ruthenian origin nobles also, especially when they were get away peasants. Hence the name, Дике Поле - Wild Fields, because no tribunal had its legitimacy there. That is why Sejm, parliament (of the nobles) opposed to ennobling the Cossacks treated as former criminals on the run - only the Registered Cossacks, that is serving as soldiers and honored at war, could be ennobled.
Conclusion is - Khmelnytsky Uprising was more of feudal revolt than ethnic based conflict. For instance, no translators were needed during any Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian-Cossaks relations - partly because Slav languages were more similar than today, citizens of Kresy (Eastern Borderlands of PL-LT Commonwealth) used Polish as lingua franca in eastern form (even until today Poles easily identify accent from Kresy), and last not least - Latin could be used by all educated people. When Khmelnytsky was negotiating with Russians translators were needed, and the language of negotiations was in fact Latin.
@@0leandr1 The preservation of the Ruthenian Nobility's rights under the Commonwealth is not contrary to the fact that there was an increase in settlement by Polish nobles in Ruthenia during this time. Obviously there were still plenty of Ruthenian Nobles during the Khmelnytsky Uprising... I mentioned them in the video multiple times. They were not an active part of the Rebellion themselves as Cossacks and peasants were, but they were not targeted by rebels as Polish, Catholic, and Jewish nobles were, and after the Rebellion was over they retained their Noble status.
@@SomasAcademy That is the question of definition of who was Polish or Ruthenian noble. Almost all nobles in now Ukraine were Ruthenian origin. I don't know how do you identify them as Poles or Ruthenians specificaly.
Every bona fide citizen of Najjaśniejsza Rzeczpospolita (Serenissima Respublica) was talking Polish as lingua franca, but they were local (apart from royal land grantings due to ie. war achievements).
I am not trying to cover ethnic ideology of the Uprising that existed then (Різати Ляхів!) but to state that in fact it was feudal rebellion against nobles of Ruthenian origin who most commonly integrated very well into PL-LT Commonwealth (RON - Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów) and acquired Polish culture and sometimes religion. You can probably know that Catholic christianity was a choice due to its independence from authorities whereas Orthodox rite is obliged to serve it.
About the settlements - the settlement in feudal times was not of voluntary action. It was part of enterprise of the noble who invited settlers (whole communities) to dwell on or rent his land. Many foreign communities were invited by landlords to RON - you can say frequently by the names of the villages indicating Dutch or Germans. Or in the case of Eastern Borderlands - Poles (Ляхи).
So again - this is the question how do you define those nobles who were settling those incomers? By language they spoke? By religion? By name indicating ethnic origin? By majority they were just local nobles.
The nobles of Ruthenia abandoned Ruthenian language and culture in favor of Polish language and culture in order to integrate themselves into the elite of the crown. Most polish nobles in these territories were of Ruthenian origins. Khmelnytsky would likely follow the same path if he wouldn't get into a conflict with Czapliński which motivated him to run away to Zaporozhye.
The Polish nobles of the crown thought that they had the Ruthenian elites on their side, and failed to recognize the cossacks as the new elites.
You even pronounce Kyiv right!!!
I tried my best on all the pronunciation, and had a Ukrainian check most of them (would have asked him to check all of them but I added to the script after I talked to him lmao)
@@SomasAcademy wow! Amazing dedication! I wish I was so hard working in what I do. Ty!
@@SomasAcademy We really appreciate your efforts. 💛💙
This is one of the best videos on this topic, or in general Ukraine and Poland by someone that does not originate from those regions nor particularly specifies themselves on them. Though I already knew plenty about the topic you explained everything very thoroughly and easy to understand. You showcased all perspectives which usually is not the case on yt.
The only real criticism that I can give is the pronunciation. It was a bit off to say the least. I could hear that you tried but... well... At 7:05 you even tried pronouncing "Warsaw" (the English name of Warszawa [Varshava]) with an slavic(?) accent and then pronounced Władysław as Włołdysłow [Vwoudislov] as if it was a Russian name.
(and personally I am not a fan of this mini figure representing yourself I am assuming. Nothing to do with the looks, also don't like it when other channels do it, regardless of the way the character looks.)
Anyway, AMAZING video, hope you'll get more views and subs because that's the kind of information people need to see.
Thank you for the kind words!
I tried my best with the pronunciation, but unfortunately didn't know any Polish speakers I could ask to check my pronunciations, so my Polish may not have been quite up to snuff. In my native accent "aw (o)" and "ah (a)" vowels tend to blur together a bit, hence my pronunciation of "Władysław." "Warsaw" is an embarrassing example, because I realized that the Polish W wasn't pronounced like the English W while I was recording, but didn't think to check if "Warsaw" was accurate to the Polish spelling at the time, so I just pronounced the Anglicized name of Warszawa incorrectly instead of using the proper Polish name lmao.
@@SomasAcademy btw sorry for the atrocious grammar. Just realized it know after reading the whole thing and edited it now to make it more readable.
man even back then the ukrainians were such brave people they always tried to have there own country and they got that but know russia is just being an imperialist power
i really hope that ukraine wins this war man great video btw
Thank you!
Many more Russians should know about Ukrainas history for them to change their minds of the invasion currently.
Я не знаю
14:29 and that is one of the main reasons the war in Ukraine is happening now
Lmaooo
Slava Ukraine!!!!
Ironic isn't it
As my uncle once said, Ukraine is not a place it is a people.
My parents are Jews from Ukraine and i lived my whole life in Israel. I always thought Bogdan was a roadside bandit leader of a generic slav origin, which means Russian or whatever.
I thought he was one of the great oppressors of the Jews, a proto Hitler.
Bogdan sounds like Hebrew for "traitorous".
And Hebrew and Yiddish have an expression, 'the robbed Cossack", the robbed robber.
I only learned about him when the context of opposing Russian nationalism among the left popped up.
the name "Bohdan" in Ukrainian and Slavic languages
means "given by God." in Ukraine, Bohdan is perceived both positively and negatively for declaring an independent state, and negatively for the union with Moscow, for which Russia still reproaches us, that we are "brothers".
about the murders of Jews in this uprising, and in the history textbooks of Ukraine at school they teach about it, but not everyone remembers it.
@@itaamt i checked on wikipedia what does Bogdan mean.
And not liking not because of what he did to Jews isn't ok
@@itaamt bohdan is physically harder for me to say, plus, growing up in Israel, he was only known as Bogdan Khmelnytsky. His ethnicity wasn't specified, so it was left to individuals to think what his ethnicity was
There was no Russia back then, it was called Moscow kingdom (Moscuwy)
The Grand Duchy of Muscovy became the Russian Tsardom (Russkoye tsarstvo) during the reign of Ivan IV, approximately a century prior to the Khmelnytsky Uprising. It was also called the Empire or Tsardom of Muscovy or Moscovia by other states, but at this time the official internal name became Russia. For the sake of simplicity I think it was appropriate to use this name for the country throughout.
As a Jew of the Ukraine origin, anything besides Bohdan's pogroms are just a minor footnote to me
That's fair enough, please see the 2 minutes of this video I dedicated specifically to the topic of Anti-Jewish violence during the rebellion - it's within the section of the video titled "Rebellion". And I gotta admit, it's really weird getting this many comments from one person on the same 20 minute video spread out over the course of multiple days.
@@SomasAcademy i just don't like Ukrainians getting support from leftists for their own nation state while Jews don't
@@erdood3235 Well Ukrainians get support from leftists for their own nation state because that state is being invaded and having thousands of its people slaughtered by a larger and more powerful state (Russia) which claims rightful ownership over that land due to the dominant ethnicity, with whom the state itself is identified (in spite of the existence of many minority ethnicities) due to the state's foundations in expansionist settler-colonialism, having originated there, while denying that the local people had any identity prior to the 20th century, claiming that their own military actions are in the interest of eliminating Nazis by painting all the civilians they kill as such, and claiming to be acting in self-defense against a larger hostile entity on its borders (NATO/"The West"/"The Anglo-Saxons"). Israel doesn't because it IS a more powerful state that is invading its neighbor and slaughtering thousands of its people while claiming rightful ownership over that land due to its dominant ethnicity, with whom the state is identified (in spite of the existence of many minority ethnicities) due to the state's foundations in expansionist settler-colonialism, having originated there, while denying the local people had any identity prior to the 20th century, claiming that their own military actions are in the interest of eliminating Nazis by painting all the civilians they kill as such, and claiming to be acting in self-defense against a larger hostile entity on its borders (The Arab World/The Islamic World/"Arabs"). Hope this helps.
@@SomasAcademy if my parents had moved to Israel, I'd have suffered from Russia too, Ukrainians aren't the only victims here, and they have the power to victimize the minorities in their defacto ethno state whenever they'd like if Jews object to their thug of a hero.
well if Ukrainians have any problems with criticism, they can get their bandera lovers to decolonize the imperialism collaborating Jews out of Ukraine
There are many Jews of Ukrainian origin who are anti Ukraine or/and Ukrainians for their pogroms.
And many Jews in Ukraine in the late 19th and early 20th century, because of fear of the nationalist movements around them, or/and inspired by them, embraced zionism
Good job. But worth mentioning: commonwealth had religious tolerance,et least relatively ( codified by 1573 Warsaw Confederation) Slava Ukraini 🇺🇸🇵🇱🇺🇦
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Before the rus the area around Kiev was ruled by polans or east Polans. They say it’s not connected but that’s just old imperial Russian propaganda. Similar with Belarus
Do you have a source for that?
Also at this point in time ruthenians and Russians were very different, through Russification over 100s of years they became the status quo
@@Ciech_mate I don't conflate Ruthenians and Russians in the video. Now, I asked you for a source on your first claim, do you have one or not?
Yeah i have a few, i can give u them in a few hours, its midnight here so Im about to sleep
@@SomasAcademy thanks for getting back to me so soon! Also if its interesting for u, theres plenty of recourses on your basic wikis and other such basic sites
When are the Jews talked about here?
From about 8:40
@@SomasAcademy thanks
based and redpill