Why Advice from WHITE MEN Doesn't Work
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Ep 203 | Eddy and Alvin get chill about
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No they just look at statistics and reputable medical studies and….its not all about “how you feel”, its about what is true.
@@Marfmellow88lol, if that were the case then they wouldn't be on the political "side" most of them are on. They do not look at reputable medical studies, they cherry pick the titles, or at most the abstracts, of studies that sound like they support their world view. Meanwhile, being totally ignorant of the fields they use to support their arguments, they then try to "debunk" incredibly well supported ideas. It works because their audience is just as uninformed as they are. Reminds me of when Joe Rogan INSISTED that COVID vaccines cause myocarditis in young people at a higher rate than a COVID infection, and was debunked in real time by his guest and Jamie. He then just pivoted to talking about other bad shit he heard instead of fully accepting that one of the cornerstones of his antivaccine beliefs had been demolished in front of him. Why? *Because he doesn't understand what he's talking about.*
@@Marfmellow88and what is true is you can't give advice from a place of privilege what works for your people doesn't work for ours.
@@Dreadpoolz3977 doesn't that depend on the advice though? Generally speaking I think you're right but that's an extremely wide reaching and authoritative statement you made.
Man, I relate to Alvin so much on the friend groups and code switching. I went to a PWI and my primary peer group was the Black community on campus. I also had friends in my major cluster that were predominantly non-black, and I 100% spoke to them differently than I did with my black peers (friends or not) in those spaces. Knowing who you're with and where you are will always be a valuable survival skill for us.
'First of all, I have been, am, and will continue to be on fuck shit'😂😂😂😂
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Alvin hit again! These young guys are too rich to have baby mama problems. Man, condoms, NDAs and common ass sense! Man, just value yourselves and your opportunities more.
Eddy just gotta pick a different specialization. If bae is is on some fighter/barbarian shit, he just gotta go into thief to get that evasion and sneak attack up and it's all good
Lmao I appreciate this comment so much.
The smoke alarm beep at the beginning was amazing comedic timing lol
City Councilor here dropping in to say that all budget choices are political. Many of your local politicians will feign like they are completely removed from politics and just "doing the work of government" when in actuality every zoning choice every budget line item has a material impact on how the citizens of that municipality are able to function and seek political redress as well as their upward mobility.
On the preferences conversation: Strength (bench pressing) is not akin to a visual characteristic like height, in that it's a skill issue. If you say you don't want your partner to be stronger than you, assuming they are still visually attractive to you, I interpret that to mean that you want your partner to be inferior to you. That they are only allowed to improve themselves to a point that doesn't surpass your own skill (whether or not it's even something you work at yourself). That they have to diminish themselves to be valuable to you. And in the case of strength, I think it's especially egregious because what you're essentially saying is, 1. You must be weaker than me, aka I don't want you in a position to be able to physically defend yourself against me (huge red flag) and 2. even if I'm not a threat to you, my insecurity and inferiority complex means that you should be more physically vulnerable out in the world.
I'd say the same of any skill/ talent/ self improvement area. Insisting a partner be inferior to you to be attractive goes beyond having a type. "I can only love you if I'm better than you" seems obviously problematic. That's why I would say that no, a person *shouldn't* have an issue with it.
This is totally where the problem lies, you're right. Additionally when it comes to like Eddie specifically... like that isn't even his wheelhouse. From what I've seen at least it's not like he loves the gym, bench pressing is where he gets his confidence etc. He's literally saying here "I wanna be better than my girl at something I don't really do and am not invested in and if I can't be I won't date her"
I still dislike the attitude of the guys in the og video, but at least they are all clearly gym dudes. Like, the dog they have in this race is that. They actually care about the race at all. Still overall a red flag, but like. Not absurd
@@twistysunshine Yup, saying "I don't have to even be good at a thing, but you have to be worse or I can't love you is" is wild. Having a bit of healthy competition going is okay, maybe even fun, as long as the goal is enjoyment or your own self improvement. But if you have a need to keep your "loved ones" beneath you, you've got problems. That kind of mindset isn't healthy or appropriate for any relationship, be it friends, family, or romantic partners. I think most reasonably enlightened people recognize the problem with this attitude in a father towards a son, why subject a partner to that?
1. Grown man shit woulda been to wrap it up.
Fun episode as always. I will say I think a thing that did not get mentioned about preferences for dating partners is that one of the reasons stated preferences don't always match actual attraction is because there are clear messages from society about who is 'dateable/attractive' and who is not.
People- in my experience mostly women but I don't think I run in circles where men would discuss this- who fall outside of current western beauty standards due to weight or because of their appearance or being trans talk alot anecdotally about dating who say one thing but are actually actively seeking another. A cis woman on tiktok talked about how she gets read as trans a lot and approached by men for the purpose of flirting with a perceived trans woman who will when they realize their mistake go on and on about how much they hate trans women. I'm sure these men would never say outloud what their actual preference is.
I quite frankly don't trust most people's stated preferences but especially not those that are shared within a context that involves other people being able to observe and judge them for those preferences (i.e in videos to be shared widely on social media)
Underrated comment
Also there is an conversation to be had about how cultural works influence those preferences and how that tends to create a distorted view. Like in the conversation an example was given of "I want a women that looks as attractive as Beyonce"...okay, that is a signal flare that person's beauty standards is being influenced by the media they consume because all they're seeing is every news outlet or social media hyping how "objectively" beautiful she is when they have no awareness of how the spectacle promotes that let alone getting into conversations about how Beyonce's public image might be drastically different to how she is in private without her public face.
I know this is an extreme example, but growing up being acquantinces with weebs, it didn't surprise me how many of time will state an attraction to Asian women without an ounce of self-awareness how sexualized anime (and otaku related media) is and created that perception for them. Their preferences to me are then suspect through that lens.
This is not a dig at men however, there are a lot of successful men who are able to be successful, because there is a woman at home, taking care of their child. That could be their baby mama that could be their wife the point is the brunt of child labor And childcare is always going to be on the female partner. And I don’t even think a lot of men see it when it’s happening.
As far as the preferences convos go, my heart fluttered (and still does) for my wife, so I married her. I also get what Eddy was saying too. In response to the general question as Alvin clarified I get that too. I'm sure neither of us would say we're one another's IDEAL partner but we chose one another because that's what actually happens in reality.
Personally I think explicit expressed preferences are often unfair to future partners. The 4'11 girl isn't going around with a tape measure picking guys, she's dating like any normal person and if she ends up with someone who doesn't happen to meet her height preferences maybe the guy isn't going to feel so good about that.
Or maybe you meet a strong girl and she's beautiful and intelligent and everything you want, but she can bench press more than you. How would they feel hearing you say you'd never date someone stronger than you. Especially with the repulsion a lot of guys say that with.
I've just felt that having too many explicit expectations on what your future partner should be like is unfair on them
And unfair to the person upholding the expectations. These people with their highly arbitrary preferences are closing themselves off to the opportunity of love and intimacy.
I totally agree. Maybe it's because I'm queer but also like. It shocks me how comfortable people are with putting their partner in Gender roles. Like Eddie says I don't want someone stronger than me... its fair at the jump I guess for safety reasons. But is he okay with being stronger than her? He's not okay with her having that perceived power over him, but he is okay with having that over her. So it isn't just about safety, it's about stereotypes.
Or if it is about safety, then it's about him being safe and fuck her. Like I like Eddie but this seems to be one of his fuckshit moments as he would say himself
@@twistysunshine same here, every take I see on "who should pay for dinner" and "ok but x is supposed to be the protector and y is supposed to be the homemaker" sounds like wahwahwah to me, or whatever sounds the adults in Ed Edd & Eddy make. As a gay man, those barriers don't exist for me. The heterofatalism is crazy.
The thing is, IMO, that there are people who date by these ridiculous standards, but they tend to end up with people who have those same preferences and they have to uphold those gender roles ALL THE TIME. This creates strife a lot of times because most people aren't built to be that ONE thing all the time. I've seen these situations happen. I don't date like that, but I will say that there are people who do and it creates it's own problems. The majority of people don't when it comes to long term partners tho.
@@BlackXSunlight heteronormativity is why our species have survived the way it has and why you're alive today. From an evolutionary psychology standpoint (which the evidence is overwhelming) a woman usually looks for signs of commitment and that a man has the means to provide for her. The sexes have different sexual systems, stemming from thousands of generations of evolutionary influence, and these differences play out in meaningful ways. genes.
The act of sex comes with a greater cost to women, due to the possibility of becoming pregnant and having to take on related responsibilities-giving birth, breastfeeding, raising the child, and ensuring his or her survival. By comparison, for men, sex requires an investment of several minutes. (About five or six minutes on average, according to recent studies.) As a result, the female sexual system evolved to account for this discrepancy, because women who made good mating choices were the ones who succeeded at passing on their genes. This is why women, on average, are more selective about their sexual partners, preferring those who possess status and resources that will benefit them and their future offspring. Back in the day, if these resources were of poor quality or inconsistent, this would threaten a woman’s survival and the survival of her children. Being less choosy about sexual partners could also result in raising a child without the help of the father, who could otherwise provide material resources in addition to emotional support and physical protection. In response, men have evolved to be highly competitive in order to be attractive to the choosiest (and, therefore, highest value) sexual partners.
Individuals who are well adapted to their environment are more likely to survive and reproduce than those who are less well adapted. The mate preferences of one sex will determine the characteristics that are passed on in the other sex. For example, our female ancestors preferred male partners who could offer physical protection to them and their young, which is why greater height is generally seen as an attractive trait in men. Eggs are more costly to produce produce than sperm; consequently, women release one egg a month while men produce several hundred million sperm a day. Women are very selective about who gets to fertilize that egg, and men need to be competitive in order to get access to this precious resource.
Studies have shown that for women who are successful, they place an even greater emphasis on their partner’s generosity and financial success. This explains why some men will purchase expensive toys, like flashy watches and cars, as a way of signaling status to potential partners. A woman usually looks for signs of commitment and that a man has the means to provide for her. and practical needs to also be met. As a result, when women cheat, it is usually due to a lack of emotional intimacy in their current relationship or because their sights have shifted to someone who is more successful than their current partner. It’s about more than lust or the physical act. When men cheat, however, it’s for sexual novelty-the desire to have sex with someone new.
An organism exists to propagate its genetic material, and this is the sole “meaning” of its existence biologically.
Masculinity has been unfairly pathologized. Successful mating consists of attaining a partner with good genes so that one’s offspring will survive and be successful at passing on their lineage. Men’s behavior is, to some extent, the result of female sexual preferences. If women didn’t want to mate with masculine men, these traits would have been removed from the gene pool long ago. It’s a case of feminists the lady doth protest too much. “Toxic masculinity” is the result of women’s sexual preferences over thousands of generations. A study found that women prefer men who exhibit benevolent sexismsexism over those who do not, despite also finding these behaviors undermining and patronizing. Benevolent sexism consists of chivalrous behavior, such as opening doors and paying for dates, and positive attitudes about women that reinforce the belief that women are less competent, relegating them to traditional gender roles. (This is in contrast to hostile sexism, which involves overtly misogynistic views.) Regardless of whether women endorsed high or low levels of feminist beliefs, they interpreted signs of benevolent sexism as signals that a man is willing to invest in them through an ability to provide, protect, and commit to them. The positives associated with this behavior outweighed the negatives. From a brief survey of my straight male friends, the more progressive and feminist a woman proclaims she is, the more she prefers dominant, masculine men.
As for men’s sexual preferences, they are a solution to an interesting evolutionary quandary. Because men are unable to tell, simply by looking at a woman, whether she is of high fertility and high reproductive value, they’ve evolved to prefer partners possessing observable qualities indicative of both.
Women have also evolved to attract men in beauty standards like breat, waist to hip ratio, houglass figure, youthful appearance, beautiful-possessing symmetry, smooth, clear skin, and shiny hair- full lips and high cheekbones are a sign of facial femininity, linked with higher levels of estrogen and fertility. etc. Youth and attractiveness are physical cues that a woman is healthy and will have greater reproductive success. Men have evolved to prefer partners possessing observable qualities indicative of both high fertility (able to produce healthy offspring) and high reproductive value (able to have many children) This explains, in part, why the beauty industry is today a $500 billion industry and also why the growing popularity of lip injections and women overdrawing their lips on social media. Contour and highlighting exaggerate facial contrast to make one’s features appear more feminine, and foundation and concealer hide under-eye circles and discoloration to give the appearance of an even complexion. This is not due to the patriarchy or capitalism trying to sell women things they don’t need. These are tendencies that are, to some extent, hardwired in us. In one study, the nucleus accumbens, a brain region associated with feelings of pleasure, was shown to activate when men looked at attractive female faces. Research has also shown on-average sex differences in brain activation during sexual arousal. When men and women are brought into the laboratory and are shown pornography during an fMRI scan, visual areas of the brain are more activated in men, and regions associated with inhibition and emotional processing are more activated in women.
Another common indicator of attractiveness is waist-to-hip ratio (WHR), because it offers clues to a woman’s reproductive history and reproductive potential. Cross-cultural research has shown that, no matter where you are in the world, a low WHR (evident when a woman possesses a small waist and larger breasts and hips) is found to be attractive. The most attractive WHR, according to studies, is about 0.70.5 WHR tends to be lower in women who have fewer children, and also, women who are not currently pregnant, offering a visual estimate to an interested suitor regarding the likelihood that a woman would conceive and bear healthy children if he were to have sex with her. It is very unlikely that men have been socialized on a global scale to find an hourglass-shaped figure attractive. In modern-day beauty trends, this may explain the appeal of having a big “booty,” as popularized by celebrities and social media, and the subsequent rise in Brazilian butt lift cosmetic procedures, in which fat is taken from other parts of the body to create a more voluptuous bottom.
I also think it’s a bit unfair that women get more flak from society for their partner preferences than men. Women who date wealthy men are commonly derided as gold diggers, while men who prefer to date young, attractive women will get an eye roll at most. Overall, for both men and women, a partner’s looks matter because having a child with someone who is attractive means your children will inherit those good looks and be in a position to attract better mates in the future, thereby ensuring that your lineage continues, although the emphasis is certainly more on womens looks.
This does not apply to homosexuals because their brains are wired a differently due to lesser exposure to testosterone in the utero than a typical male has had. .Neuroscientific studies have shown that the brains of gay mens are partially feminized due to lower exposer to prenatal testosterone. and lesbians are partially masculinized due to a higher exposer that a typical female. Greater exposure to prenatal testosterone is also associated with attraction to women, aswel as male-typical interests and behaviours, regardless of whether the baby is male or female. The organizational effects of hormones on the fetal brain prior to birth have permanent effects
"With all the swagger of an adult African American..." yall should have Josh read random Freddie Gibbs lyrics on a cast one day, folk
😂😂😂😂
I agree that a man can be the less physically strong partner and still fulfill the traditionally masculine "protector" role. As a petite biracial woman, the amount of deference, respect, and courtesy I receive if I am seen next to a man, whether he is my father, brother, cousin, or partner, vs when I am alone is a world of difference. It doesn't matter how much the woman can bench, especially since plenty of people are extremely physically strong but don't necessarily look jacked.
Eddy being on the left side is throwing me off lmao
I can’t wait to listen to this. I’ve been thinking my whole life I gotta stop listening to my white friends. Tryna talk to them about getting a job is so frustrating.
Exactly what I needed right now thank God! Y’all upload on a schedule yet I’m pleasantly surprised every Wednesday 😂
lowkey same
The way Alvin said, “that’s my baby and I love her”. I done, end the show, goodnight!
Sorry, I don't see him refusing the baby as reasonable. If Anthony's so adamant about not having a kid, wear a condom. Always. Ask that she's on birth control as well. Take every precaution you can to NOT get someone pregnant. She could have an abortion, but unless they've ever had a discussion about that, asking her to have one is very unfair. He wants to have the cake and eat it too. That's not reasonable IMO.
How can you justify abortion if men can’t have a way out too? Not that you’re wrong. I absolutely agree that he should take care of his child .
@@Brighterdays346 Abortion is a person deciding what she'll do with her body, as is giving birth. The person who can impregnate another has to make those decisions and take precautions before/during sex. That's just how human reproduction works. It's not fair that if a couple wants to have a baby it's usually one person that has to get pregnant, it's not fair that some couples want babies and are infertile, etc. Human reproduction is not "fair".
@@80soa@80soa Did she not let him not use protection. It is a two-way street. Additionally is bringing a child into the world knowing their father didn't want them a completely selfish act? I think people keep jumping over the fact that there will be a new person brought into the world.
What is unfair about it? He said he didn't want to have a baby with her. She is sleeping with a man that has a girlfriend, why would that man want to have a child with his sidechick? Additionally, what is reasonable about bringing a child into the world knowing their father will not claim them? He said he wasn't ready for a child, that should be enough.
@@Brighterdays346a man has to be consciously aware and take necessary steps to prevent pregnancy if they don’t want a kid. Abortion isn’t always a possibility or wanted. Men need to take more responsibility for their seed. Sex can = baby so if you don’t want one take the necessary steps and know that accidents happen. If a women gets pregnant it’s both people’s responsibility whether the kid is wanted or not this is how sex works and the court of law agrees.
My homegirl is a model, at least 6', if not 6'3-4", if not taller in heels but has had a whole baby and about to marry her long-term boyfriend who is noticeably shorter than me (I'm 5'8", maybe 9"). End of the day, most people throw all that "check box/social media talk" shit out the window. When rubber meets the road, most of us roll. On the whole, social media Jibba Jabba is just that, bullshit to pass the time. People want partnership more than their preference and in the end nearly all of us "settle" in some capacity or another.
Or what we said we want was never as important to begin with.
@@beewest5704that as well for sure!
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I feel like Eddie is just intellectualizing insecurity with the wanting to be more x than his partner. Like it's fine but it seems like a manifestation of male fragility. Also Alvin was on point with how meaningless that stuff is IRL
a man's height and size being a factor in whether or not somebody is attracted to him is not a 'type,' it is a beauty standard like thinness, and wanting to feel 'protected' by a man is a social conditioning.
It certainly is both social conditioning and primal feelings. Because men generally aren't protectors. In fact they're women's biggest threat.
Exactly.
not social conditioning in the least. why throw hot words around like social conditioning all the time? For real. It doesnt make any sense whatsoever. The nose on your face is a form of social conditioning, its a literal combination of ancestral information giving you your actual appearance. So what the fuck do you even mean when you say social conditioning. You have no way of actually knowing how deep social conditioning is. The only social conditioning that exists in the world today is people being told to mindlessly repeat hot words like social conditioning. You see all the social pressure and environmental factors contributing to your own opinion or idea. So you actually just think your social conditioning is superior in a fight of social conditionings, even though thats unbelievably debatable to the literal end of time.
@@S4MBONEcut the semantics, what they mean is that protection comes in different forms today when phsycial strentgh aint gonna do jack against the human big mac walking uo to you with an AR
the "social conditioning" is the idea that a strong man or woman can only be physically fit to qualify as strong. but biceps cant lift broken spirits when your SO needs compassion and not brute force chauvinism. That doesnt mean you cant be masculine, just that in the modern world it means a hell of a lot more than what the war movies taught us.
Can someone please comment on the timing of that smoke detector beep at 2:32? It feels like bullying and harassment 😂💀
46:20 So true. The moment you meet someone you actually like, all the checkbox items go out the window.
So a good amount of the preference conversation is mood talk. And that's fine but be aware of it.
Great ep
Great video
So, on the topic of dating preferences, I feel like the key difference between y'all's arguments was that Alvin was coming from the perspective that your preferences are something you observe about your behavior, and Eddie was coming at it from the perspective that dating preferences are something you set for yourself. And I don't think dating preferences are something that you should be dictating like that. Just get to know people, and if you're attracted you're attracted. Don't let some arbitrary rule you've set for yourself hold you back.
Example from my own life: I have a strong preference for people with strong contrast between hair color and skin color. That's something I've observed about my own dating preferences. But I've been attracted to blond(e)s and I've been attracted to dark skinned people. I'm not gonna say no to someone I'm attracted to just because they don't fit a certain hair to skin contrast ratio or whatever. I think that distinction between a hard rule and things learned through introspection is super important.
Because I don't think it would be a far leap if I did set a hard rule about hair to skin contrast ratio, that could get real racist (or at least colorist) real damn fast. Similarly, this is how the whole super straight bullshit was used to weaponize dating preferences to sell transphobia.
I don't vocalize my preferences on people's bodies to a broader audience out of respect for people with or without those bodies. Negative preferences like "I wouldn't date someone of this race" is obviously worse than saying "I would only date people of this race" but both are going to push a standard of beauty. Enough dudes saying "I won't date a trans woman" makes men think they shouldn't date trans women even when they would otherwise.
Haha damn! You two are quick, the whole covid hustle bit, give me half so my body can rise up to the challenge!
Great intro!
I don’t actually think Anthony was wrong for sticking to his stance on not wanting a child - and Paige also wasn’t wrong for stating she felt opposite and her vulnerability in talking about the trauma of her previous abortion was admirable however… unfortunately where they both were wrong stems from the beginning. I know it’s serious and uncomfortable even, but if you’re having sex (unprotected especially) you NEED to talk about this shit from the beginning. In reality I know things can be hot and heavy and you’re not going to necessarily think about having a serious conversation…. But it is fucking essential… because then a situation like Anthony and Paige’s happens. It’s heartbreaking but it was doomed to begin with since there was zero communication (it seems)
My question is WHY DONT THESE ATHLETES WEAR CONDOMS!?!?
Cos s*x ain't as much fun.
2:28 seriously, with the smoke alarm chirp? 😂
A lot of people don't understand that they simply need to change the batteries to make it stop
Is the outtakes discussion supposed to be on patreon already? I’m already a patron.
Was an upload issue, it'll be on patreon within the next hour
Holy shit, 5 minutes in and I'm already cracking up! Love yall. Great and funny insights abound!
20:00 Nah, MONEY MAKES BYGONES, money doesn't make better or right. We just offer $ because thats all you can give after a tragedy. Its just all he's willing to give in this situation. He couldn't give his empathy, encouragement, a damn🤷🏾♀️😂 Her trauma, doesn't make him obligated to have a child with her but his busting in her does😂 Thats any mans consent for a child. And letting him bust was hers. Thats both of their "faults," because that how all human life works. Her body is only doing what it was supposed to do with the sperm he gave it. You seem to be speaking as if it's her "fault." Or perhaps he's treating it as if it's her fault that they have this child together. As if something unnatural happened and now there's a baby🤷🏾♀️. If they didn't want a baby, there's a billion in one things they could have done to prevent the pregnancy in the first place. He should've worn a condom, assured she was taking the pill as indicated, helped her track her cycle. Even pulling out is 70% effective. Although he's not a jerk for asking her to have an abortion, he'd be a jerk not to consider what he may be putting the mothers of his children through. Because he's out nothing, she's rising her life in some cases. He shouldn't keep throwing $ at the situation as if getting women pregnant is out of his control. 🤦🏾♀️
the call to action glitch in the matrix at the end 😅
I have a problem with folks assuming a child equals assistance it’s ridiculous asf most mothers aren’t on assistance and most do not receive the child Support they’re supposed to PER STATS
Druski is legit an anthropologist bro he's so talented 😅
Eddy’s particularness sounds like it comes from a place of insecurity x1000 😅. Alvin’s points hit it out of the park!
9:54 in the meantime in between time got me😂😂😂. I fully understood you and they did too.
In my experience, people's preferences reflect the height of what they find attractive on paper, and statistically seem more likely to date people who don't meet those heights. But also, a lot of people who are fucking/dating but not necessarily in love often treat this person as a substitute for a hypothetical future partner who does meet those heights. Like I know a young woman who said she wasn't into super skinny guys and then she got with this tall, skinny guy, and she's like "He's my lil nerd 🤓 my human palm tree 🌴 dis my husband yall" because they're in looooove. The people just hooking up and talking, no feelings really caught? They're in a choosy state.
Sorry guys but Anthony could've avoided all of this by being responsible and wrapping it up. If he didn't want a baby, he should've taken precautions.
And she could’ve avoided all this by not fucking a dude raw before knowing how he felt about having a child with her🤷♂️
@@undocumented9445 his autonomy ends at sex. Now he can't complain when she has a baby and he pays child support. Your rebuttal fails
I file Beyonce under "people the media tells you to be attracted to".
If your preference is “Beyoncé” and you pick a woman that isn’t Beyoncé, then obviously you compromised. Obviously you settled, and therefore the point is moot because *the preference doesn’t really matter* since you can’t have Beyoncé. It doesn’t matter if she kinda looks like Beyoncé or favors Beyoncé if she isn’t the entire total package of the identity of the individual Beyoncé-it’s not Beyoncé. you compromised. She isn’t the world class performer, she doesn’t have the same credentials, the same voice, the same ferocity. It’s like saying your preference is a Rolls-Royce Phantom and you get you a bargain bin Chrysler 300 because you think it’s a baby phantom and are happy with it.
I think that it’s interesting that we talk about human beings this way, and a lot of us do. Like when we say shit like “settle”, I don’t think we realize that this is a whole ass person not a job opportunity, car or a house. Maybe that’s part of the problem or at the heart of it. We have the wrong language and ultimately the wrong mindset to really approach and treat each other the right way. This is all kind to coming to me as I write this. We don’t see each other as having intrinsic value beyond what we can do for each other or how we make each other feel. The more I think about it. We don’t even recognize our own intrinsic value beyond shit like degrees, owning a business or overall financial success, our appearance and other superficial shit. I’m not going to say that I have not been guilty of that myself, at least in the past. This doesn’t mean that you get with just anyone, but it does mean that you ask some more fundamental questions about yourself. Such as. Beyond whatever I want to or have accomplished, who am I? What truly gives me value? And when we first meet someone, are we asking that question of the person? Honestly we are not there and that shit shows in how we relate to each other even beyond dating.
@@josho5860 I don’t care if you pearl clutch or are offended, the terminology or phrasing of “preference” in general presupposes settling.
@@josho5860 I think many are trying to live up to life long partnership when they are actually serial monogamous at best. Remove the cost burden of raising a child, a man made institutional concept, and there’s nothing wrong with hippie style free love and temporary coupling. We are in an unnatural environment so the problems you list are inevitable responses to being associated with your partner or “how much weight they pull” financially or status-wise
Ah yes, comparing women to objects like a typical man 💀
The intro was lit and properly awkward lol
If there were 2 women, and one had a bigger bench than me, I would definitely end up talking to her about it. I would find that extremely interesting.
Katt Williams talks about being a single dad in his interview with you Shanon sharp. He goes into details about where his kid was, being homeless and having to live out of a trailer that the studio provided. But Shannon didn’t ask for further details because we don’t expect that from men I guess.
Alvin for mayor in all the cities 🎉🎉
i miss josh but ngl, we needed this alvin-eddy combo :)
The perfect end to the preference conversation to prove how stupid it is, just ask if he would want to be with Rihanna if she could out bench press him. If the answer is yes then his whole argument is moot like Alvin said. If he says no Rihanna wasnt his preference after all
Random: my wife is into crime & cult docuseries. Watching "Love Has Won" w her had me screaming WHERE IS YOUR BABY! ...she absconded to become a religious diety/cult leader.😅
the likelihood of me finding a women who benches more than me is near zero. The world record is 301.
“Minimal Viable P*$$y” took my breathe away. Great podcast as always and love the opener discussion about overfunding of policing leads to underfunding of social safety nets and education systems like public libraries.
My preference IS a woman who can bench press more than me.
I'm wondering if.... If Eddy started dating someone... and then that someone started going to the gym and they can now bench press more than him, would he break up with her? I am very curious as to *why* a woman bench pressing more than a man would be a problem? Is it that they would feel emasculated? Why? How much lifting are people doing in their daily life that a woman bench pressing more in a gym is threatening their out of gym perception of themselves/their place in life?
Knowing how much I can bench (290), I’ve seen women who bench that much and more and they don’t look that attractive to me. Squat on the other hand though…
Collin Sexton from Powder Springs too
AE had a personal responsibility to wrap it up but fact of the matter is they both knew she wasn’t on birth control and he didn’t wear a condom. He has every right to say he don’t want a kid, and she has every right to not get an abortion. Having a conversation about it and expressing how you want to proceed is in no way problematic.
I can’t be the only one who would, if I were single, actively seek out a stronger woman. When my partner was a competitive powerlifter … let’s just say I was very happy 😅
31:13 Sometimes I tip the credit card companies when I pay
This podcast keeps innovating in the realm of absolutely WILD statements
Lol so eddy u not taking Rhianna home if she bench more than you?
31:32 Y'all are talking some real Army logic. And I don't even think you know it😂.
Very insightful!
Wow inward looking and beautiful!
Thank you like wow
Amazing totally subbed
Don't take advice from anyone you don't personally know and even then question everything
Don't take advice from therapists, or doctors, or lawyers. You are the only person to take advice from. If someone calls you a narcissist, they are only jealous of how amazing and special you are.
Yep yep
@@TheDetectiveJ You are being incredibly naïve if you think a person is trustworthy just because they have a master's or doctorate. All kinds of people lie, grift, and have a general disdain for others. You should always think about whether advice is applicable to yourself or your situation. It's called critical thinking.
@TheDetectiveJ Said like someone with Narc traits.So you do not think that licensed ,trained professionals should give advice to anyone.
You forgot about Josh Smith
PLEASE equalize your microphones, it's such a pain to turn the volume up and down constantly and still not be able to hear
Which mic was louder?
Both seemed fine to me
Ive only seen one white man who is a spiritual leader who can be flexible and talk to all kinds of people. Even he is like in my field its rare for a man to respect and lift up and love the feminine to do what he does. That seems to be true in and out of the spiritual community
29:50 GODDAMN EDDY HOLY SHIT HES DEAD HES DEAD
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Naw, see these Brodie's ain't real hustlers. See, to match Rock Lee, Everytime the bank says I got two more years left, I tell em to increase it 10 years more to really know how to be top dawg. Nothing less.
I don't know, just cause she bench presses more doesn't mean she's about to go into construction lol unless you go see her in the gym you might've never even known lol
same for white women when it comes to relationships and maybe other things too, dat i can't think of.
You guys are talking about the money situation and Eddie mentions that thats how society tries to make things better- and frankly not just society. Anthony himself was the one to broach it. He broached it immediately after being largely shitty and dismissive with his tone. He doesnt have to switch to business mode after being caring bc of her attitude; he chose to be uncaring and then chose to make this an official transaction, like she said after saying they would handle it themselves, and knowing he was pressuring her into something she didnt want to do. If he wanted he could have got his lawyers together, gave her that money, and then waived the rights to the child in court. Then in every direction he woulda done "what he's supposed to" for someone who doesnt want to have kids but isnt the one carrying the fetus. Or he could have wrapped it up.
Here all he did was pressure her, ignore all her reservations, intentionally choose to buy her silence with lawyers... its traditional extremely rich man acting however he wants shit. Hes no different than any exec who does this exact same shit.
Agreeing hard with Alvin on the benchpress question-I see Eddie’s point about personal attraction preferences being fine as long as you don’t denigrate ppl who AREN’T attractive to you, but the original hypothetical was ‘She’s a ten, BUT she bench presses more than you.’ If someone considers her a ten, they ALREADY think she’s attractive, but if they change their mind once they find out she can benchpress more, then they’re not basing it on initial attraction, they’re basing it more on societal metrics, which I agree with Alvin IS an asshole move. Obviously if you see a woman and she’s built and you go, ‘She looks great, but she’s not for me’ that’s obviously 1000% fine, which I think is Eddie’s point, but the ‘but’ in the original hypothetical really is the tipping point for me. Like it’s not until you learn she CAN benchpress more that you change your mind??? Bruh what that’s genuinely irrelevant, you can be strong, too, as per Alvin’s point, you’re just insecure 😭
Anyway thanks for a great podcast as per usual, hope Josh enjoys reading Corduroy to to the kids 😂
One thing on the bench press convo:
They didn’t really talk about how much the guy can actually bench press. There’s a threshold of what is achievable without chemical assistance that varies from person to person (and also correlates with gender). I think some of the “no” responses are really about the question of steroid use, similar to if someone asked a woman “would you date a man that benches 700 pounds” when it is highly unlikely that could be the case without him using steroids. If you stipulate “a woman that can bench press more than you without chemical assistance” then I feel like it’s a more fair question.
I feel like you're overthinking it, especially since the question wasn't framed like that, nor was it mentioned in the responses. The purpose of the video just seemed to be asking a bunch of built dudes if they're okay with being with a woman who could potentially be stronger or bigger than them with no further explanation or caveats.
There's def conversations to be had about steroid use but it's pretty clear the point was to get reactions like Eddy's.
13:41 he shouldn’t have putting himself and her at risk of procreation. The act should never get that enjoyable where you don’t have a preventative measure.
Amber Stevens-West looks like a younger version of Beyonce (in my opinion)
One thing is for sure is that Alvin is going spin any situation to take the side of the women
Can't help but feel as though Eddy is adamantly trying to justify people's insecurities w/ this whole preferences conversation. As if dudes haven't landed partners stronger and/or taller than them in the history of humanity, 😂😂😂. As if the idea that wanting to be the physically stronger partner in the relationship isn't something that should be interrogated (same goes for other presences as well IMHO). I don't care for this mode of thinking; projecting sentiments espoused on twitter onto real life.
Eddie knows he'd fold if Rihanna approached him. He also knows that if she revealed she benched 350, he wouldn't leave her. He needs to stop lying
Love yall but this episode really showed why Josh is necessary. This turned into a yapping competition by the end
Yeah these 2 are very opinionated and Josh is the man who will compromise (I can tell who's married 😅)
It is tricky to promote, begin w/ a tiktok highlight then break off and start from the original point without her video. I agree with her alot and I often thought of the same thing racially, religiously too and people, ie., who became doctors while being wheel chair bound... However, I wonder has anyone watching this video bothered to help a
single Dad, challenged a single Dad to petition for joint, full custody; altered their ambitions to care for a parent or any human being?... How many services exist to help single fathers and where are they located? The initial premise in general is bad ass, but once it goes to being received in a generalized way rather than to poke holes at both the cult of persona of these high profilers... It still comes to excluding alot of people by those who look through only a gender lens. How many women have helped single mothers? I do not hear very many female high profilers /mentors or famous mentees on Ted Talks sharing that information? Who did Oprah care for on her rise? I hope the audience
is less shallow than the people who wanted to take an hour of my life to watch through a lens of mediocrity. I could easily see a Black woman sayin' yes... " She just might be half a Karen; I like her ...."
2 and a half minutes in and you can already see that Alvin & Eddie don’t really like each other
Victim mentality, keeping playing it.
If watched casey its because he funny and entertaining. Him taking care of his kid aint got nothing to do with me. People pick and choose what they want to make a big deal
This channel is why so many men join red pill groups
Men join red pill groups because they're incels
"Family" does not equal, a girlfriend he got pregnant in HS. As long as he was paying his child support, that is all an 18 kid father is responsible for. The mother (and her family) made her decision to have a child at 15 and not get an abortion or have an adoption (and not wear a condom or be on birth control). That is what she signed up for. Woman have to start taking more responsibility for bringing children into the world. Like that is literally our job as Mothers, is to decided when and who gets to make life with us. And woman be making irresponsible decisions (often for ignorant reasons) and then want to cry, complain, and blame the man. Especially when the man tells you, they don't want a baby. Like why would you then still have a baby with a man that don't want you? Like that is some unhealthy shit, and shows that the mother is having babies for the WRONG reasons. It takes 2 but its not 50/50 unless that man has committed to the mother, by either being in a long term stable relationship or marriage.
I agree that the burden of childcare falls more heavily on the mother, but that does not excuse the man for being an absent father. If she is old enough to be a mother then he is old enough to man up and be a responsible parent.
its his fault she was pregnant
@@SCHRODINGERS_WHORE No actually it is equally both of their faults that she is pregnant and it is 100% her responsibility to have prevented that pregnancy or to have an abortion.
@@pearlykatte4747 She is not old enough to be a mother. Her body is physically capable of producing a baby but teenagers don't know enough about the world to be preparing another human being for the world. We should start considering that instead of thinking teenage pregnancy is a good thing, if the parents "man or woman up" and handle their responsibilities. Well they are also children. Their brains are even full developed.
Nobody ever said it was illegal to complain in the first place. Honestly, do you spend all day every day of your life simply complaining? Is this literally all you aspire to be is an annoying complaint department professional? Most people complaining have luxury and starbucks and SUVs and iphones and internet access and drinking water and social status and spend all day looking at themselves in the mirror to look at the only person who actually hears them when they complain in the first place. Complaining is not against the law, having feelings is not against the law, looking around at your fellow humans is not against the law, raising your voice, having a personal opinion is not against the law. None of the people you are complaining about give a shit about you or your little complaints. This complaint culture is nothing other than a fad, some way to pass the time while more successful and inspired humans move about and make things happen in their lives. Nobody is stopping you from learning more using the internet, improving your intelligence, gaining new skills, becoming formidable, working hard, meeting new people, listening to other people, starting a business, gaining knowledge. All I know is the more you hear yourself complain, the worse you personally feel about yourself deep down inside. Complaining is a crime against God because you only shut yourself down and prevent yourself from making any meaningful progress with your life then you turn around and blame others and feel justified while looking for high social status by being the most intelligent complainer. Its a downward slippery slope straight to depression and self hatred.