I built 3 of these. All successful. 2630v2, 2650v2, and a 2696v2. M.2 NVME SSD, 16 or 32 gb ram. 2 gb video cards. Got everything super cheap. They all run good.
Got one running too, if you set the PState coordination to SW_ANY you can get boost on a few cores up to 3.4 in HW_ALL mode it only boosts to 3.0. Currently building a 1680 V2 with a gigabyte motherboard and a 2060 super as a VR Rig.
@@creativegoblin4054 it should run just fine. 8 cores is really nice for After effects and premiere pro. Also set the BIOS power stage control to SW_ANY from HW_ALL to gain 3.4 GHz boost on a few cores. Lifting the TDP will also improve the performance as long as your MB supports it
Here I am in 2023 December and just picked up an x79 pro with e5 2650 and am about to build my first budget build in almost 20 years! No more console! Let's goooo
I would check MIYCONST channel for detailed reviews of these Chinese motherboards and best pairings vis a vis the XEON CPU's (both X79 and X99 variants). Also, I tend to shy away from Machinist and have opted for HuananZhi ("HZ"), given their reputation wrt VRM's (quality caps/chokes, etc.) and reliance on C600 series chipsets. With XEON, unless on an extreme budget, always opt for QUAD channel DIMM's, if at all possible. I have had a positive experience with the HZ on two builds: HZ deluxe X79 + E54627V2 (8C/8T all core 3.5Ghz) + 6 pipe x 6mm dual/RGB 120mm SNOWMAN HZ X99TF + E5-2678V3 (12C/24T all core 3.3Ghz with Miyconst Turbo-unlock) + SNOWMAN CPU cooler.
Good advice! I do actually watch MIYCONST. I chose this motherboard due to small size to fit in small case (and low price). I'm sure there are technically better options. If you can have a bigger case you can fit quad channel memory capable motherboard.
Nice video. I run a Dell T5610 workstation with dual 2650 V2s and 128 GBs of RAM. Got it second hand from an animation studio locally. Popped in a GTX 1070 and use it as my everything machine from video editing, messing around with VMs, coding, and gaming. The tower is a monster but I love this computer.
Bought the same motherboard and cpu combo for homelab too. While waiting them to arrive nice to meet with your videos. Waiting for installation tutorials and benchmarking videos.
Pc partpicker don't have this motherboard listed. Can someone tell me how to calculate the wattage of the smps that will be necessary to run this motherboard?
Could a e5-2695 v2(115W) or e5-2697(130W) work with this pico power supply? Since the video is 3 year old has anyone else watching this video lately bought it and is it the same?
nice tuctua fan cooler anyway im upgraging my old amd x870k to e5-2650v2 and it come with cpu fan and 16 gb ddr3 1600 ( i wonder if i can force to 1800 on bios)
Hey Ben. I stumbled across your channel looking at Xeon processors and found your video. Great video by the way. I would love to know what was the price point for the motherboards or where did you get them. Thinking of upgrading my Xeon E3 home server and your kit fits my needs. Curious on the price saving 🤔
Surplus parts prices change constantly depending on the macro world state. So prices before the Russia-Ukraine war and chip shortages will not be the same as now. It will probably have gone up. Check eBay!
Hola tengo un mvne ,m.2 sn850 a 7000mbps y no me deja instalar Windows se reinicia y me sale pantallazo azul me podrías pasar la BIOS de esa board por favor
Mine is working with non-ecc... It kept freezing while using ecc with all the slots populated, specifically the two by the I/O. Tried non ecc and no problems at all...
Weird. Did you have name brand ECC? Or ebay special ECC? Some companies disassemble, remanufacturer and reprogram old ECC ram which makes them very cheap as salvage but also a bit of a roll of the dice with quality.
It can support both. There are 2 jumpers on the motherboard to change the m.2 mode from NVME to SATA. I only tested NVME myself, but I believe @CraftComputing may have tested SATA.
@@BensTechLab would it be possible to know how exactly to relocate those jumpers? there is no video about this, I could not find it. Potential for likes :) by mistake bought one NGFF instead of NWME, but it is not detected by default pins and there are no instructions whatsoever..
Could you let me know if it works in quad mode and if it needs some bios tweaking to do so? I have a trouble with similar if not same board only showing 2 channels in dimms. But posting 16Gb of ram. Checked all rams, and resocketed CPU. No changes.
This motherboard only supports dual channel memory configuration. All 4 DIMMs should show up, but you won't get the performance found on higher end (larger) motherboards with quad channel memory configuration. This is one compromise of this board's features (supposedly required due to small PCB size, they couldn't fit all the traces on the motherboard unless you make it full size ATX).
@@BensTechLab I guess have some trouble with motherboard. Windows and bios sees 2 channels only. But CPU-Z and total ram in bios detects all 4x4. More than weird. it kind of works and not at the same time :)
@@rasapudzaitiene3236 Are all 4 sticks of RAM identical? Any chance they are either remanufactured or different controllers or speeds? Eitherway, you can send me a message via the BensTechLab.com website and I can email you a close photo of my jumpers.
Noticed the cooler looked like it was on sideways,this way just for testing or the only way it fits.Was wondering how well it would cool sideways when install in the case?
Mine are running. This motherboard is using a recycled chipset anyway, so the if you kill the motherboard it would it would be the because of VRM mosfets. Make sure you have cooling on the VRM and dont put too power hungry a CPU on this board!
please what do you recommend of both on Gaming - Video editing- Graphics Design ? Xeon E5-2660 16gb 256gb ssd VS I7 3770 16gb 256gb ssd? Which to choose?
I don't think I can provide such advice. It also depends on what kind of video editing, gaming and graphics design you want to do (1080p, 1440p, 4k?) and what GPU. You will need to decide for yourself, based on your unique situation.
Привет из России. Я тоже купил E5 2650v2 X79 LGA2011. Рад что такая сборка пользуется популярностью не только в России. Вот только не понял что за блок ты ещё подсоединил. Желаю всего наилучшего.
hey why when i use 2 ram in different channels system is ok but when i use 2 rams in dual channel or 3 or 4 rams my system-pc gets stuck after some minutes.. i can use it normally only with 1 ram or with 2 ram in different channels and cant use dual channel or quad channels, what is wrong?
It's unrealistic to diagnose this over the internet. You should test each ram stick one at a time first and also check the speed is the same for all sticks (and ideally same brand chips, although not technically required). Some cheap surplus ecc memory is also "salvaged" and the cheapest ones are sometimes faulty. Some ebay/aliexpress sellers will reprogram the chips to report a higher speed than they were actually spec'd for.
Correct me if I'm wrong - but these Chinese X79 motherboards don't support TPM or SecureBoot (i.e. Windows 11 compatibility). Is that a true statement?
Good question! You know, I'm not even sure. It may even be different for different Chinese X79 motherboards. These mATX ones do sacrifice functionality to make a physically smaller board... a larger full size ATX board may have more features. I'll take a peek at the MB for any obvious TPM headers sometime.
There are a lot of factors to consider. The cpu does contain the memory controller but also problems can arise from surplus memory being reprogrammed out of spec (making slower ram faster) or power supply voltages being out of spec (overclocking), and more... start by swapping your working ram into the bad slots to make sure it isnt dead ram sticks. Then maybe reseat cpu. Then if still dead maybe new cpu or MB.
@@BensTechLab Thanks for reply!! Yea ive tested and swapped ram its good. I was just wondering if you ever seen this problem. Ill probably buy a 2650v2 or something for like 20 bucks and just toss the 1650v2. Hoping thats the fix if not its finally time to move on to ddr4 for me. You got a new sub! Thanks again!
@@BensTechLab update: Turns out these boards have not so great slots and sockets. My pci e and small pci slots where the culprit. Had to reseat those give them a little wiggle and it all started working again. Just a heads up for anyone with this board.
@@aus109 Thanks for coming back to share your tip! I'm not surprised if the slots are lower quality. Its a remanufactured board aimed at a lower price point, so the slots are new but probably chosen for cost efficiency.
@@BensTechLab yea no surpised here, still really like this board! ive had it a good 2.5 years. I will also note i have every slot filled on this board. Maybe im pushing it too hard but its all working good! Id prolly buy another if it ever went out.
Unfortunately no. This is a compromise for the small motherboard size, they could not fit all the PCB traces for quad channel. Some other X79 motherboards that are full ATX size will support quad channel memory configuration.
Full size graphics cards can fit! The thickness of the card or depth from motherboard up to case side panel are not constrained. The length can support full length but not with a large powersupply or the long card and powersupply will conflict with eachother. So you'll need to invest in a quality small form factor power supply to fit long cards.
I built 3 of these. All successful. 2630v2, 2650v2, and a 2696v2. M.2 NVME SSD, 16 or 32 gb ram. 2 gb video cards. Got everything super cheap. They all run good.
Awesome! This is exactly what I'm doing. A homelab with a few of these for technical experimentation.
Got one running too, if you set the PState coordination to SW_ANY you can get boost on a few cores up to 3.4 in HW_ALL mode it only boosts to 3.0. Currently building a 1680 V2 with a gigabyte motherboard and a 2060 super as a VR Rig.
@@pepperfish_ Thanks for the tip! Sounds like a nice build you've got going.
Bro can i tell me___
Iam planning to buy 2650v2 will this run adobe after effects ?
@@creativegoblin4054 it should run just fine. 8 cores is really nice for After effects and premiere pro. Also set the BIOS power stage control to SW_ANY from HW_ALL to gain 3.4 GHz boost on a few cores. Lifting the TDP will also improve the performance as long as your MB supports it
Here I am in 2023 December and just picked up an x79 pro with e5 2650 and am about to build my first budget build in almost 20 years! No more console! Let's goooo
It's always fun to build something!
I would check MIYCONST channel for detailed reviews of these Chinese motherboards and best pairings vis a vis the XEON CPU's (both X79 and X99 variants).
Also, I tend to shy away from Machinist and have opted for HuananZhi ("HZ"), given their reputation wrt VRM's (quality caps/chokes, etc.) and reliance on C600 series chipsets. With XEON, unless on an extreme budget, always opt for QUAD channel DIMM's, if at all possible.
I have had a positive experience with the HZ on two builds:
HZ deluxe X79 + E54627V2 (8C/8T all core 3.5Ghz) + 6 pipe x 6mm dual/RGB 120mm SNOWMAN
HZ X99TF + E5-2678V3 (12C/24T all core 3.3Ghz with Miyconst Turbo-unlock) + SNOWMAN CPU cooler.
Good advice! I do actually watch MIYCONST. I chose this motherboard due to small size to fit in small case (and low price). I'm sure there are technically better options. If you can have a bigger case you can fit quad channel memory capable motherboard.
Awesome video. I watched a few of your first videos and were surprised that their quality were quite high! Subbed!
Hey Thanks! Appreciate it! 👍
Nice video. I run a Dell T5610 workstation with dual 2650 V2s and 128 GBs of RAM. Got it second hand from an animation studio locally. Popped in a GTX 1070 and use it as my everything machine from video editing, messing around with VMs, coding, and gaming. The tower is a monster but I love this computer.
Sounds like a good machine!
how do you cool them?
@@lucapagano3685 The stock tower coolers from Dell have worked just fine.
Bought the same motherboard and cpu combo for homelab too. While waiting them to arrive nice to meet with your videos. Waiting for installation tutorials and benchmarking videos.
Nice 👍 I'm just finishing up the video now for the full build and case fan tests!
I can feel the exhaustion in his after seeing the white blue bios interface!😅😅
I hope more brands make mini dtx motherboards.
Me too! There aren't many options right now for mini DTX. But its a really good balance of size/features.
Pc partpicker don't have this motherboard listed. Can someone tell me how to calculate the wattage of the smps that will be necessary to run this motherboard?
Could a e5-2695 v2(115W) or e5-2697(130W) work with this pico power supply? Since the video is 3 year old has anyone else watching this video lately bought it and is it the same?
Very nice work !
Thanks! 🙂
Thx mate! Nice vid
Glad you liked it! Will be testing thermals on this motherboard coming soon.
What F keys are you using for bios and boot menus?
I am getting error 79. What could be possiblity.
please x79-vg3 motherbard bios dump?
Nice work Ben!
Thanks!
Good job, sir
nice tuctua fan cooler anyway im upgraging my old amd x870k to e5-2650v2 and it come with cpu fan and 16 gb ddr3 1600 ( i wonder if i can force to 1800 on bios)
Hey Ben. I stumbled across your channel looking at Xeon processors and found your video. Great video by the way. I would love to know what was the price point for the motherboards or where did you get them. Thinking of upgrading my Xeon E3 home server and your kit fits my needs. Curious on the price saving 🤔
Surplus parts prices change constantly depending on the macro world state. So prices before the Russia-Ukraine war and chip shortages will not be the same as now. It will probably have gone up. Check eBay!
Hola tengo un mvne ,m.2 sn850 a 7000mbps y no me deja instalar Windows se reinicia y me sale pantallazo azul me podrías pasar la BIOS de esa board por favor
Mine is working with non-ecc... It kept freezing while using ecc with all the slots populated, specifically the two by the I/O. Tried non ecc and no problems at all...
Weird. Did you have name brand ECC? Or ebay special ECC? Some companies disassemble, remanufacturer and reprogram old ECC ram which makes them very cheap as salvage but also a bit of a roll of the dice with quality.
@@BensTechLab They were Hynix ECC... It's wierd that a Xeon is working with non ECC sticks.
@@Jim-qc4nb not weird at all. most of them work with non-ecc
Does the m.2 slot support both sata and nvme ssd? Or is it just limited to nvme only?
It can support both. There are 2 jumpers on the motherboard to change the m.2 mode from NVME to SATA. I only tested NVME myself, but I believe @CraftComputing may have tested SATA.
@@BensTechLab would it be possible to know how exactly to relocate those jumpers? there is no video about this, I could not find it. Potential for likes :) by mistake bought one NGFF instead of NWME, but it is not detected by default pins and there are no instructions whatsoever..
Could you let me know if it works in quad mode and if it needs some bios tweaking to do so? I have a trouble with similar if not same board only showing 2 channels in dimms. But posting 16Gb of ram. Checked all rams, and resocketed CPU. No changes.
This motherboard only supports dual channel memory configuration. All 4 DIMMs should show up, but you won't get the performance found on higher end (larger) motherboards with quad channel memory configuration. This is one compromise of this board's features (supposedly required due to small PCB size, they couldn't fit all the traces on the motherboard unless you make it full size ATX).
@@BensTechLab I guess have some trouble with motherboard. Windows and bios sees 2 channels only. But CPU-Z and total ram in bios detects all 4x4. More than weird. it kind of works and not at the same time :)
@@rasapudzaitiene3236 Are all 4 sticks of RAM identical? Any chance they are either remanufactured or different controllers or speeds? Eitherway, you can send me a message via the BensTechLab.com website and I can email you a close photo of my jumpers.
Noticed the cooler looked like it was on sideways,this way just for testing or the only way it fits.Was wondering how well it would cool sideways when install in the case?
These xeons have a perfectly square mounting hole pattern. So you can put the cooler on any way you like!!
I want to buy one
is it still working?
is it durable like normal mptherboards
Mine are running. This motherboard is using a recycled chipset anyway, so the if you kill the motherboard it would it would be the because of VRM mosfets. Make sure you have cooling on the VRM and dont put too power hungry a CPU on this board!
please what do you recommend of both on Gaming - Video editing- Graphics Design ? Xeon E5-2660 16gb 256gb ssd VS I7 3770 16gb 256gb ssd? Which to choose?
I don't think I can provide such advice. It also depends on what kind of video editing, gaming and graphics design you want to do (1080p, 1440p, 4k?) and what GPU. You will need to decide for yourself, based on your unique situation.
What about driver....?
Привет из России. Я тоже купил E5 2650v2 X79 LGA2011. Рад что такая сборка пользуется популярностью не только в России. Вот только не понял что за блок ты ещё подсоединил. Желаю всего наилучшего.
hey why when i use 2 ram in different channels system is ok but when i use 2 rams in dual channel or 3 or 4 rams my system-pc gets stuck after some minutes.. i can use it normally only with 1 ram or with 2 ram in different channels and cant use dual channel or quad channels, what is wrong?
It's unrealistic to diagnose this over the internet. You should test each ram stick one at a time first and also check the speed is the same for all sticks (and ideally same brand chips, although not technically required). Some cheap surplus ecc memory is also "salvaged" and the cheapest ones are sometimes faulty. Some ebay/aliexpress sellers will reprogram the chips to report a higher speed than they were actually spec'd for.
@@BensTechLab well every ram it works alone.. individual
But when i use dual channel the pc freeze..
Speed is always 1600 on every ram
Correct me if I'm wrong - but these Chinese X79 motherboards don't support TPM or SecureBoot (i.e. Windows 11 compatibility). Is that a true statement?
Good question! You know, I'm not even sure. It may even be different for different Chinese X79 motherboards. These mATX ones do sacrifice functionality to make a physically smaller board... a larger full size ATX board may have more features. I'll take a peek at the MB for any obvious TPM headers sometime.
tpm and secureboot on these motherboarsd are not relevent because the processors that you can put on the boards are not supported by windows 11.
Is memory running at quad channel or dual?
Unfortunately it is only dual mode memory configuration. I am told it is because of the small board size cannot fit all the PCB traces for quad mode.
Does this motherboard support bifurcation?
Good question! I actually don't know! Should I be looking for a specific option in the bios?
I have same board and 2 ram slots just stopped working. Do you think my CPU is going out? e5-1650 v2
There are a lot of factors to consider. The cpu does contain the memory controller but also problems can arise from surplus memory being reprogrammed out of spec (making slower ram faster) or power supply voltages being out of spec (overclocking), and more... start by swapping your working ram into the bad slots to make sure it isnt dead ram sticks. Then maybe reseat cpu. Then if still dead maybe new cpu or MB.
@@BensTechLab Thanks for reply!! Yea ive tested and swapped ram its good. I was just wondering if you ever seen this problem. Ill probably buy a 2650v2 or something for like 20 bucks and just toss the 1650v2. Hoping thats the fix if not its finally time to move on to ddr4 for me. You got a new sub! Thanks again!
@@BensTechLab update: Turns out these boards have not so great slots and sockets. My pci e and small pci slots where the culprit. Had to reseat those give them a little wiggle and it all started working again. Just a heads up for anyone with this board.
@@aus109 Thanks for coming back to share your tip! I'm not surprised if the slots are lower quality. Its a remanufactured board aimed at a lower price point, so the slots are new but probably chosen for cost efficiency.
@@BensTechLab yea no surpised here, still really like this board! ive had it a good 2.5 years. I will also note i have every slot filled on this board. Maybe im pushing it too hard but its all working good! Id prolly buy another if it ever went out.
Is this a quad channel ram slots?
Unfortunately no. This is a compromise for the small motherboard size, they could not fit all the PCB traces for quad channel. Some other X79 motherboards that are full ATX size will support quad channel memory configuration.
@@BensTechLab thank you for the info🙏👍
🙂
Hi Ben, can you please tell me if a normal high profile graphics card fit on that
Full size graphics cards can fit! The thickness of the card or depth from motherboard up to case side panel are not constrained. The length can support full length but not with a large powersupply or the long card and powersupply will conflict with eachother. So you'll need to invest in a quality small form factor power supply to fit long cards.