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Basketball Examined Westbrook is 1 of my fav players to watch, in person, but I have to agree with EVERY point made. If he made the adjustments mentioned, he could arguably, be in the MVP race every year. Going on 30 years of age, his best years may be behind him....
Thanks for spreading the truth
Basketball Examined What is the link or name for this Chuki. Instrumental?
Basketball Examined didn’t watch the video , I’m not going to. If you say anything bad about Westbrook I disagree. I already had a comment so you already know why I disagree.
Kala Kula what an insightful and open-minded approach
Westbrook plays like a my career created player
Slim Jim God except for the winning part.
and your rookie year like Donovan Mitchel ? ;)
Jin winning what? lol. getting to the playoffs is not ‘winning’
Except a my career created player wins and is way more efficient
We never lose on MyCareer. And we win our first championship on our rookie year.
This video is being proven 100% correct again in 2019. It's becoming even more clear to everyone why KD wanted to leave.
aaaaand it got him eliminated
3 straight first round losses. Now that's impressive as an all-star
Not in the 🚀
@@sankeerthkoshy61 I am here after the series and they won after 7 games with very little difference.
BEAST FuRy cause Russ didn’t play in 1st 4 games
If you clone Westbrook and make them play with each other.. I'm sure the other 4 Westbrook clones would ask for a trade
😂
I'm 40 years old. I never seen a star more interested in personal stats over A championship.
Very selfish
Lebron
So i guess 78% of the league does the same thing since none of them even been to the finals
akvalues have u ever seen a player more interested in championships over personal stats than jordan?! lol
I’m not really a lebron fan but even I can say lebron gets his stats organically. The stats come to him. WESTBRICK is the opposite he is determine to get that triple double fuck the w
This is why I like him in 2k, I control the beast
That is.... pretty accurate. xDD
I wish he would be as amazing in real as he can be if controled by a gamer.^^
I played my career as a ballhogging SG and everyime I pass the ball yo him as an assist, he bricks
Bruh I’m the same way. None of my friends can’t stand to play 2k with the Thunder because they don’t understand Westbrook’s game.
I hit 3’s with Westbrook and my friend get in a tantrum sayin “Westbrook don’t shoot 3’s!”. Westbrook is not the best 3 point shooter but don’t disrespect him buy sagging off all the way in the paint.
Keron Jones he shoots below 30%.......
Courtnye Pinto yeah but in 2k when he’s on fire 🔥 don’t you dare leave him open.
It's been 3yrs since i've watched this...and Westbrick is still doing the same shit.
I’m tired of talking about how overrated Russ is. It’s the same thing year after year: him getting a triple double, slack jawed idiots enamored by this, but covering up his terrible shooting percentage and his terrible playmaking. His defensive coverage is atrocious, sagging off of defenders so he can get a rebound, his management with the ball, and decision making is horrendous.
And what has these triple doubles done for Russ? A first round playoff knockout, but don’t worry guys he got a triple double, that sure makes everything better right? Instead of bringing glory to your team, fans, and city, but only yourself?
Hate KD all you want people but let’s face the facts: KD is the reason that OKC got even in the finals and WCF. He is the only reason you were even near there. And what did management do? Get rid of Harden and let Russ be the man and let the MVP winner play a subservient role. KD left to join a team that had a winning culture, unselfish play, and some of the humblest stars in professional basketball.
KD never needed Russ, Russ needed KD. And unless Russ can learn this and play differently he will never win a championship in his life
Thank you for exposing this fraud MVP superstar.
Edit: make that 3 straight first round knockouts.
It's so frustrating to see how harden got robbed
DJ Vibes as much as I hate his play style, he has his own team and is the Star now. He can do his own thing and works in a system that benefits the whole team.
Straight facts, wish I could like this comment more than once
Westbrook still has so much potential. If he were willing to apply himself defensively, take less shots, and take more care of the ball while getting players involved he'd be incredible. If he averaged 19 pts 8.5 assist and 7.5 rbs while going hard on defense and minimizing tos he'd be spectacular and his team would be so much better. He's wasting his prime with selfish play
best coment so far.
William Jr Pfann facts
Just Another Guy what’s crazy is he was a defensive player of the year coming out of ucla
Also, he has to move offball.
Well he had many years to change, he should have also noticed this as key player left him one after another. At this point, just accept him as who he is.
He's the perfect example of what happens when you don't develop any actual skills & rely on pure athleticism your whole career.
Thank god you made this video man. Nothing makes me angrier when people talk about how hard Westbrook plays "no matter what" when he refuses to move without the ball and plays NO defense, which people also refuse to acknowledge. Thanks for bringing these issues to light
*True Westbrick is a fraud*
FACTS.
Just realized, after being halfway through:
The vid is from last year...
😂😂😂
2019: same thing all over again.
He's an inefficient statchasing ballhog. His numbers are a result of his incredibly high usage rate and his teammates gifting him rebounds. I would never want this dude on my team (coming from a Bucks fan so you know I'm serious.)
101noz101 czcams.com/video/Ey9ckbCxG1g/video.html
101noz101 only average less than eight assists 3 times but ok. lol
101noz101 nigga WTF You being a bucks fan got to do with any of this shit. Fuck you and the fucking bucks. That’s why Lebron gonna sweep you guys next year. Don’t even need to watch the nba to know that. If you guys even make the playoffs next year. Plus saric should of been Rookie of the year dude had most of his team injury and was balling.
shut the fuck up kala kula
Westbrook is a player who wastes his potential by being inefficient and reckless. inefficient on both ends, if he was more efficient he can compete with the elite teams.
*Waits for Westbrook fans to make bs excuses*
Undank Kiddo he is an athletic machine, but in my opinion only an average player that somehow gained the status of a superstar.
Well, I'm from Germany and I cannot watch every single game, so my opinion doesn't mean anything anyway.
dont think this shitty ballhog will hv any fans lmao
See my comment please, thanks.
Davy Jones, was hier immer wieder übersehen wird ist die Tatsache, dass diese "athletische Maschine" voll mit Anabolika gezüchtet wurde. Wie viele andere so genannten "NBA Stars". In der NBA gibt's keine zuverlässigen Dopingkontrollen. Und die Kontrollen, die durchgeführt werden, entsprechen in keinster Weise den internationalen Standards. Man erschafft hier durch Besessenheit, Sportverbissenheit, unerlaubte Mittel und Geld ein kommerzielles System, ein riesiges Geschäft, das in Wirklichkeit auf der restlichen Welt mehr Schäden anrichtet als Nutzen. Man bedenke nur, wieviele Kinder und Jugendliche überall, diese Mogelpackung-Athleten nachahmen und in die NBA als Milliarden-Geschäft kommen wollen. Das Gleiche gilt für den korrupten, kommerziellen Fußball. Ich habe selber Basketball gespielt, und deswegen kann ich mit Wissen behaupten, dass das, was in der NBA dargeboten wird ist weniger Basketball (oh Gott, oh Gott, oh Gott) als eine Zirkusveranstaltung mit Basketballzügen. Und Westbrook ist ein sehr gutes Beispiel dafür. Aber das mögen viele Amerikaner. Was? Wenn ein einziger Spieler durch das ganze Feld marschiert und 100 Mal wirft unter Missachtung seiner Mitspieler. Hauptsache "gewinnen". Und, wenn beim Spiel noch ein paar Prügeleien auftreten, ist es noch unterhaltsamer. Hält das Geschäft auf Trab. Das ist natürlich nur meine bescheidene Meinung.
SicilyDZ neither does he care about winning
Westbrook's talent and skillets are very similar to Dwyane Wade but Wade's basketball intelligence is off the chart and played hard on both end of the floor.
Task Don just stop bruh pls
Kyle Patillo its true tho. Westbrook could be a efficient midrange shooter and finisher if he had the iq to
Drippy Jay and black PEPOLE could have fought off the whiteman in 1800s but we didn't have guns so I don't wanna hear sudda cudda wouldaa stop giving this man excuses
I will say, I'm not Westbrook fan at all. As matter of fact that I feel Westbrook is a cancer not only to Thunder but to entire NBA. I was only saying that Westbrook has great talent except that he has no desire to win, he could play like Dwyane Wade but he has neither the heart or brain to turn him into the great player like Wade. Westbrook is stats-padding his way into HoF, such a shame.
Task Don I see where your coming from but I don't feel you bruh not even a little bit lets b real his athleticism got him to the NBA and once that's gone he has nothing to fall back on plus his not leader. If the lead is weak the team is weak just like with wolves bruh you people give dis man to much underserved praise
This is one of those videos that's so good, it makes you mad. I'm mad that Westbrook fans will never watch this.
How about re-examining his 2019 first playoff exit
As a Thunder fan,
I completely agree with you. It’s not fun to watch most Thunder games and yes it’s so amazing to watch when he tries down highlight dunks and has an amazing 40+ point game but it’s not worth it to see him have games shooting 20% and bucking up 10 threes. As soon as Presti announced we’d be keeping Donovan I knew that next season even if by slim chance Paul George returns we wouldn’t be able to do anything past the second round or possibly even the first. Because Donovan doesn’t have any balls to step up to the plate and criticise Russ in what he’s doing wrong (and yes I do blame Russ for his shortcomings, I’m not throwing all the shade to Billy Donovan despite the fact he’s a poor coach) Russ has just developed these poor habits like padding his rebounding stats and taking too many shots. I do believe Russ is a great passer but for me he should be at around 7 or 8, not 10. He’s only getting those extra 2 assists above what he should be getting because of how much he holds the ball and how much of the offence is run through him.
I’m really not looking forward to the next 3/4 years as a Thunder fan. Pail George will most probably leave then we’ll just get 42-46 wind for the next 3 years and get bounced out every year.
You really had to leave all that space just to have people click on "Show More"
Lol
skinny slim when he gone he will be appreciated, smh. I'm a Cleveland fan and Westbrook jump off my TV more than bron.
I don't think his mentality mesh well with three headed monster. they didn't need melo. u could of got a shooter for less without ego. look at Houston, two clear stars an d role players. to say he cares more about stats is complete bs
Sleepy Eyes he does like you think him averaging triple doubles in a season are natural?
First player ever 2 record 2 triple double season... and got dismissed in the first round both of those year... and that will be the story until he wins one
And it's not as big as it's made out to be.
One thing people don't realize is that Oscar Robertson practically averaged a triple-D over his first five seasons. A couple of those seasons he missed clearing 10.0 in assists or rebounds by no more than .3 (such as the 9.9 assists his fourth year) while exceeding the other categories by far more. His average is indeed a triple-D when each category's stats from his first 5 seasons are combined and then divided by 5.
shaft9000 You have no idea as a Rockets/Harden fan how aggravating it was for the idiot voters and media to not realize any of this, when we all knew it was screaming in their face. Harden deserved the MVP that year WestBRICK won it, and then people have the fucking balls to say he didn't deserve it last season.
They got mesmerized by the numbers, when Harden had almost equal numbers, and was more efficient doing it.
Facts. And harden didnt have cp3 at the time
About time this guy uploaded. Missed the videos😂😂
Thanks for making these. Video is so well made i don't notice the time fly.
Thank you for making this. You destroyed every single narrative that there is on this guy. Westbrook is a fantastic player, but he has to be held accountable and isn’t
What I’m wondering is why his teammates give up rebounds to him. Does he bully them into doing it? Or do they not care about his stats?
He is the leader AND the best player on that team. You listen to your leader.
I would like to see Westbrook try to steal rebounds from Patrick Ewing, I don't think that would go over so well for mr. Westbrook.
Great videos, keep them coming.
Always great content bro...keep it up!
Westbrook needs a Popovic type coach that wont let him get away with the foolishness he does
Then what exactly will he be good at?
@@354allday nothing hes trash
He is one of the last players you would ever want to be teammates with. He plays the game the same way Wilt did before Alex Hannum was made the 76ers head coach, a ball-hogging stat-padder. Wilt didn't win any titles playing like that, and Westbrook damn sure ain't Wilt. He needs a coach that busts his ass and breaks him down, makes him play to win games and not for self-glorification through meaningless individual stats.
He should be on the heat
you're an idiot, but ok
Wilt is overrated.
Seth Kasso is that why retired players say they wish they could play with him?
DLX Infinite
His number is retired by every team he ever played for and he’s set records that hold to this day, well over 50 years later. His records will stand for the foreseeable future as well. To call Wilt overrated is similar to calling LeBron overrated.
Great videos brother - keep it going💪🏽✊🏾🏆
This video was so fire, you've gained yourself a new subscriber my friend.
Steven Adams has been the Thunder MVP for years.
One of my favorite players but sometimes the truth hurts..
Good stuff. Thanks for posting
You already know that knowledge is about to be dropped once you start hearing that tune. Great video as always.
I think it would have been worth mentioning that Westbrook was injured for a nice stretch during the time in which Kevin Durant made his bid for MVP.
Had Westbrook not gotten hurt, it's doubtful that KD wins MVP
bigrontheexception if the thunder kept harden and traded westbrick KD would have never left
had Kevin Durant showed up when OKC was up 3 to 1. spare me the stats, watch the tape, either he chocked, or it wouldn't make sense to join. a team u just beat would it. he never expected to be n that position and the rest history.
Kyle Patillo kd had a chance to prove himself when they was up 3 to 1. he can score 40 in his sleep. watch the tape. mostly. everyone agrees Westbrook balled out, and kd got slammed. but we suppose to praise him for winning, yea right. he soft and has no heart. they whole team fraud. why is that shit even close, oh my fault, but there nba players, ok curry lol.
Sleepy Eyes you sound dumb. Bad grammar and bad points. Remember at the end of game 6 in that series when Westbrook turned the ball over 4 times in the last two minutes? That’s called a choke. You call the whole Warriors team “frauds” for no reason at all. How are they frauds? Because they drafted well and win playing team ball instead of doing the stupid shit Westbrook does? Because they saw a chance to get a top 3 player and took it? I don’t think you understand how the NBA works.
Sleepy Eyes WB balled out by shooting 39% from the field and had 31 total turnovers in the series. Roflmao
Excellent vid.
This triple double narrative needs to cease. The media heads keep saying things like the players today like Harden..Westbrook and others putting up gaudy regular season offensive based numbers are well above the Basketball players of other eras. The overall athleticism and face ball skill level might be...but the defensive aspect and IQ level is only exhibited by a few of today's stars. Many other players might have been able to average a triple double but at the expense of winning consistently against the best teams. Just look at who advanced to the Finals...and who are sitting at home. Think for yourself...dont let the media heads do it for you...their job is to present information to you in an entertaining fashion....thats all.
Oscar Brown harden wasn't equipped to beat that warriors team yh he shot 42 percent in the playoffs but he was playing the best defense I've ever seen him play ND played a key factor in the 3 wins they had against gsw even tho he shot poorly ND did well drawing the defense to kick out to shooters even when his shot wasn't falling yh he went like 5-25 or sum shi but he is the acknowledge best player on the teaand on the floor in my opinion so they trust him to put up 25 shots (at most) even on a off night so pls stop trying to compare harden to Westbrook one can't get out the 1st round while one was missing there 2nd best player ND was up against 4 all stars
Harden is the same Ballhoger than Westbrook ...
Ball4Life
You are correct. Im just saying that during the regular season Westbrook and notably Harden put up some amazing offensive numbers...but the playoffs are different and expending so much energy on offense and forgetting the other elements in games often leads to long drawn out series. The Rockets indeed played surprisingly great defense ( Harden included ) against the Warriors and were on the cusp a Finals appearance. In relation to this Westbrook weakness vid....im just saying that when going up against the top teams relying on offensive prowess as the catalyst cannot work on a regular basis with ease. These two Conference finals are exposing that if the 3point shot goes down you can be unstoppable....if it doesn't...it cannot become a long road to victory. The common state of the NBA is a if you can't beat em join them mentality with the Warriors....hoping to out shoot them. The Rockets showed you can be physical with them and persevere...yet could not control the impulse to start jacking up 3's every possession and forgetting about the other fundementals of Basketball which is simply to get the best shot or go to the free throw line. My point is the Westbrook mentality of stats over winning has become rampant throughout the league and the media head gossip. This type of style of play does not lend to consistent winning results. The Warrior's players don't even worry about this triple double nonsense and concentrate on team high assist numbers which should be the goal for most players....especially your point guard.
Nigga duh fuck you talking about , CZcams is part of the media and this guy is hating. Go look up Russell Westbrook their do NOT have ONE muther Fucking nice thing to say about Russ. That’s why he got the biggest fucking contract in the NBA and got sign $500,000, 000 from Jordan. While you guys are fucking hating. He did it without the media help. He got a awesome son who won’t ever need to dribble a fucking basketball in his life and a wonderful Wife.
Kala Kula no one is hating on Westbrook, the person. No one says he isn’t MUST SEE TV. No one is saying he isn’t marketable. No one is saying he doesn’t work hard or isn’t rich.
Anyone that knows the game understand that Westbrook is glaringly inefficient. When he had NOBODY last year, he was MVP. But when you have 2 all stars, a defensive 2 guard and Steven Adams, you are NOT supposed to lose to the Jazz, led by a rookie. Durant, Ibaka AND Harden were ALL better off without him.
If you can’t see that, you’re a groupie.
Love your videos, because I feel like you go down to the nitty gritty of it all on your explanations. I subbed and I gotta say it was good sub to me. Also love that calming chill background music you have that plays in your videos.
Great video, you earned a sub
Haven't even watches the video yet and already I know straight facts are about to be spit. Westbrick doesn't make anyone better, in fact he makes alot of his teammates much worse.
Yo Mammas Boo so we gone act like he doesn't set up Steven Adams beautifully all game long. but ok
bruh get a life all you do is comment on youtube
Sleepy Eyes Steven Adams is a bonafide beast. Jose Calderon can get him the same if not way better looks than Westbrick does.
According to the calculations bro your profile pic is a Kim Possible character... You have already confirmed yourself a virgin, now stfu.
Yo Mammas Boo his teamates were awful when he went to the bench in his mvp season.
Thank you for high basketball IQ videos
Excellent video!
He will go down as one ofthe all time overrated players just like T-Mac
I can gladly say that I was always the outcast in this certain scenario. I got so much hate and comments calling me a "hater" because of my criticism on russell westbrook even before his mvp season. As soon as I noticed westbrook putting up these crazy triple doubles without winning the game I knew I didnt like this style of play. Reminded me of kobe but the big difference is that kobe is a much better shooter and a LOCKDOWN DEFENDER. I remember getting so much backlash from calling harden the 2016-17 mvp and the only real argument people had was "triple double" and "he has no help".I still think harden deserved it because he WON and honestly i could care less about triple doubles. In all nba history only 3 players have won mvp being lower than the 2nd seed. MICHAEL JORDAN WON IT in 1988 as a THIRD SEED BUT WAS TIED FOR THE 2ND SEED BECASUE OF SAME RECORD. KARL MALONE won it in 1999 as a 3rd seed but was also tied for the 2nd seed because of having the same record as another team. and then there is WESTBROOK. who won it as a FUCKING 6TH SEED. Im starting to notice a lot of dumb patterns in mvp voting and im not liking i. If were going to start awarding stats over winning then kobe shouldve won it in 2007 and wade shouldve won it in 2009 also melo shouldve won it in 2013 if were going by stats instead of wins. from now on you shouldnt be able to win mvp unless you are a 2nd seed (or tied for 2nd) or higher! i dont care if youre averaging 50 pooints and 20 rebounds. If youre not winning games then it doesnt matter.
MVP can be interpreted many different ways. The way I see it, it is about who is the most valuable to their team, and that was definitely westbrook last year
I was saying that the whole year last year. But I thought Harden and Westbrook didn't deserve the MVP. How can you name the League Most Valuable Player when they were both 1st round losers. One of them made it to the 2nd round only because both teams played each other! What happened to the days where winners and most heart won the MVP instead of sneaky stat padding and flopping for free throws gets you the MVP?? The NBA and their analysts are looking for anything flashy or stats based to media hype rather than looking at the actual big picture. It's sh*t now.
mvp is a regular season award, playoff success should not interfere with it.
FUCK OFF I was right with you until you said Melo should've won in 2013. LeBron beat him in every category except PPG which he only won by 1.
Harden definitely should have won it in 2017!! People like to use the "triple double" argument, but don't remember that Harden was averaging close to a triple-double himself. Only difference was that it was leading to more team success and even though they were only a 3 seed, they still won 55 games and Harden was the only All-Star on the team. I feel like he deserved MVP more last year than he does this year.
What's your background instrumental called? Also great video, u should collab with the NBA story teller that would be fire 🔥🔥
So nice to have a new video from the awesome channel. You always seem to really concentrate on the details and background before releasing a video.
Could not agree more about Westbrook. He is too selfish and cares too much for his own stats to ever help his team to win anything significant. Also the mentions and stats about Melo, PG13, Oladipo and Durant pretty much prove the fact that Westbrook can't really make anyone better but instead make some players actually worse around him.
LNU disliked the video XD
It's all true, the Russ fanboys can't see it though, to really like Russ you have to not understand basketball fundamentals. I've been annoyed by his play since that 2012 Finals, if he wasn't such a terrible decision maker they may have won, each game was competitive. It was a cringe fest every time Russ would touch the ball, not much has changed.
Douglas Quaid boii you a hater
Nah, he's just a super talented guy who never learned basketball fundamentals and is incredibly selfish on the court.
Which was worse his gameb2 or his game 4?
Kidd khamalah game 7
Jose Martinez talking about 2012
Good video bro
Spectacular work. Hopefully these Westbrick stans will wake up from their trance and grow in basketball knowledge.
IMHO this is quite a shallow analysis, based mostly on "basic stats", without any "player's" insights and therefor fails not just to provide points with any real value, but might easily be 80-90% wrong.
In that WCF against GSW OKC played one of the best bball in years and even GSW will admit you it was a (Klay's) miracle that they pulled it trough (and made a history themselves). That is quite a high level of playing and being as bad as was described in this video does not nearly take you that far.
What seems to have some weight you can throw in RW's way:
- KD is a better player, a true generational one and if you are a great player, it should work; I think it was a bit immature from both of them.
Biggest remarks on RW's games IMHO are:
- his passes are not enough "on-target" for average at best shooters (Grant, Abrinas, Ibaka, PP, Ferguson...) or after-prime stars (Melo). It takes a KD level of talent to adjust your shooting position as much as possible and quickly enough and still make it. If a shooter receives it "on time" and "in chest" - you get "olimpic Melo". RW often passes off-balance and in-air, while running. He's great for Adams and alley-ups (both guys rumbling in the paint), but not so much for OKC shooters. Melo mentioned that after coming to Houston and that is exactly the point HOU thought they will execute better - the picture in dictionary for "pass on point" is CP3 with Harden not far behind. That is why Ariza, Tucker and Ryan Anderson looked like Ray Allen while there with him and not as nearly as much elsewhere.
- that kind of passing is also a root for his many turnovers. Those are definitely bad.
- RW's 3PT shooting is bad mostly 'cause of shot selection (to quick, off-balance, over-defenders... you name it) and 'cause he's inactive (even lazy) without the ball. That movement would get him more open shots, get him in better rhytm...
What this video fails to mention is:
- base stats are "bad enough" they've invented and are using more advanced stats. And RW is killing it in RPM, RPM WINS, WARP... And he's decent on defensive part, too.
- getting a triple-double average takes so much, that he is ALONE on that mountain. Period. You know how they say it "If it's that easy, everybody would be doing it".
Basketball before 90's is quite far from today's NBA so you can put a big* on Oscar's triple-double season, Wilt was "an adult among children", etc.
That makes RW even "more lonely", not to mention he averaged it 2 seasons in a row!
- speaking of triple-doubles - it takes 10+ assists for it. As mentioned - he is not a great passer, so getting 10+ assists 2 years ago was a miracle in itselft if you look at that roster and the way they had to play. Teammates had app 5 open shots so he could get his final needed assist. Road crowd started cheering for him to get it that's how badly it was.
- It's smart basketball pushing for fast breaks. Quick long passes by big-men as shown in video - there is ONLY 1 big dude in NBA today that can get a rebound and make that pass - Jokic. Adams is not that guy. Nor are Grant, PP, ... But what Adams is is a beast on blocking out - and that's a book-level of smart playing. Best teams block out so hard that the ball might basically fall on the ground. Who's the best guy to pick it up for a fast break? RW is single-best player for that task in NBA today and stats prove it.
- that takes us to "energy level" needed for playing with average roster, without shooters, averaging a triple double and still being above-average on defense (check Harden and LBJ in last two seasons for comparison). RW, again, is a single player to have pulled that off. As Donovan said "One thing about Russ I do not have to worry about is whether he'll bring it tonight".
- in 2016/17 RW constantly came back in 4th Q in deficit. Every single game he had to "pull a run" in 4th for them to win. Some people felt sorry for him - they lead by 5-10 in 3rd, he goes for break and often they can not hold the lead by the end of 3rd, let alone giving him time for standard break until 4-5th min in 4th to come back. Compare that to GSW with Curry, Klay and KD joking on the bench. It takes enormuos energy and he delivered most of the time.
- one thing you failed to mention from year 17/18 is that OKC was literally destroying teams in Dec in Jan before Andre got hurt. They had "it". Andre was so good on D that PG had more energy on offense and they could hide Melo's D enough and give him also more energy on offense. Just check those games against Toronto and Cleveland like czcams.com/video/h14C_QOOEOE/video.html Without that injury we might be talking Melo still in OKC, even different champions (remember, OKC beat GSW twice that year)
- Melo was joking about Russ stealing rebounds as he later said it. It was just teasing reporters about it at the time they were starting to play better. Nothing uncommon in healthy teams.
- If I'm not mistaken PG was dragging some injury last season, especially in playoffs against UTA. You look at him this year it looks quite different.
- PG or Melo not making it to All-star - West last year was all-time stacked with all-time talent in their primes. And they were just starting to mesh at the time of voting.
- many teams say they want BIG3 but as soon as they get them they ask one "to take a back seat" (Bosh, Thomspon, Love...). OKC in 2017/18 tried all they could to have equal-big3. It might not be the best strategy afterall.
- RW alone gets people to buy tickets. There are 10 players at best to give you that.
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RW sure is not flawless, but saying his triple-doubles were meaningless is borderline clueless and even makes common folks claim it's overhyped. It's f*****' hard to acheive and he should never be questioned about it again.
I would love to hear someone with know-how like @bballbreakdown address this better than me and provide "final" answers for one of bigger stories in NBA in last decade.
Thanks for telling us this
Basketball is a team sport. Paul George Russ and Melo are all known for scoring when their the primary ball handler. The only way they can win a championship is if Melo leaves and they can get a great spot up shooter. And Roberson was a huge difference too on the defensive end and him moving around and cutting without the ball. Russ can win, the front office is the one with poor decision skill.
Alabama Abe Melo & PG are not the problem.
Yeah poor decisions 🙄, even tho everybody was praising the front office after the off season
No they need someone to shut Russ down. He doesn’t deserve to be the number one option. He shouldn’t even be point guard. He should just be a shooting guard, and whatever team he’s on should only use him as a scoring option, not a playmaker
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E.L Salvador They already pad him 216 million dollars. They got no choice but to make him the number one option.
@Basketball Examined I have to ask wha is this tune playing in the background??
I agree with your assessments 100%. I have seem this years ago.
i agree Westbrook is a cancer. however there is one fallacy to your argument. You presented oladipos improvement post Westbrook. But unlike KD and Harden, oladipos has played without Westbrook before he got to OKC. So if oladipos numbers pre Westbrook were bad, than his improvement can actually be chalked up to playing with Westbrook using your logic. probably shouldve left the oladipo mention out.
Olipido’s situation in Orlando was extremely shitty. The coaches weren’t sure what position they wanted him to play, the franchise had no direction and, the team around him was dysfunctional. But if you look at his Orlando highlights he’s basically the same player he is his now. It didn’t make it any better for him in OKC when all he was basically asked to do was space the floor for Russ. Sure he’s gotten a little better since then but he’s always been an excellent player, he just needed a situation that allowed him to be great.
oladipo even said he got a lot better because he learned from russ
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Oladipo wasn't good before he got to okc. He even talked about westbrook teaching him how to work hard and lead by example
Oladipo's situation is different because his improvement is actually relative to his natural progression in hand with the OPPORTUNITY to grow. You grow by actually being allowed to have a role in the offense other than just standing around and shooting. Oladipo showed promise in orlando, he was never a bad player, just in a bad situation. Besides, he was only in his like 2nd or 3rd season at the time. Dipo now is what happens when he was in an offense that 1. Allowed him to create the offense and 2. Played in a motion offense that fed off of his energy. In OKC the only options you had were give russ the ball and shoot when he gave it to you. No ball movement, player movement, etc.
Please make a new one I'm tired of this fraud being perpetrated as a Top 15 player. He plays for himself I'd rather have Lonzo Ball on my team at least he is a team player and his contribution is organic
yep
Too bad he can't even play because hurt all the time
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I’m so happy you said the ball moves faster than the man!!! My coach preached that shit!
Take off melo and give Russell Anthony Davis and let’s see what happens
First round exit.
Lol Have seen what durant has been doing the last couple of games? lol he was part of the problem as well,klay and Steph been bailing his chocken ass out.
I'm a Durant fan, but I'm gonna have to agree with you mate. His iso game is killing the chemistry and not effective at all. I'm glad they let Curry orchestrate the offense late in the 4th and in OT or they would have definitely lost big time.
Thank you for exposing him ❤️
yup...totally agree!
I would love to see you do a couple of video's.
1.Kobe Bryant (was he really great)
2.2018 NBA finals (KD vs LeBron) you said KD currently is better than LBJ who just had 51 the other day. I would love to get your perspective of that.
No one is mentioning Lebron going 1-10 in OT. JR's play didn't LOSE the game for the Cavs, the blocking foul didn't LOSE it for them either, it was Lebron in OT that actually lost the game. No one is even mentioning that, but are spamming his 51 points and JR's mistake. Again, NBA media induced hype to market their invested product. And like most fans now a days, they can't see the stats that matter, just the hype.
When KD tries to play hero ball, they lost to rockets tho
F. A. N 21 but KD was able to check his ego and STOP playing hero ball, and that is why he is forever better than the likes of Westbrook
"Is Kobe really great" are you dumb
im2hastyle idk about you but if I see someone who has the ball in their hands and can take a game winning shot but instead dribble the ball out im blaming them for the loss. You cant blame Lebron if he’s the only one who shows up
His trip-dub are ineffective but the team wins 80% of there gsmes 82-21 that's an 65 win pace but it doesn't effect anything right
How do you make those thumbnails there dope
Please do a video on Rule Changes and its Evolution on the League. The 3 Videos I just watched of yours reinforce what I see. I'm interested to see what you come up with.
To be fair, melo was just horrible and pg13 was just way too inconsistent especially after the all star break, and oladipo said he learned so much watching westbrook play and seeing how hard he goes everynight for this game, but yea everything you said besides that i agree with
pg13 and melo played bad because of Westbrook.
The Chi-Town Hero You mad?
James Harden left Westbrick becomes a mvp, Oladipo became a all star after he left
KratosKiller yea thats what happens when youre the main option in your own team instead of the 6th man lmaoo
@@Anton-vy5xq Yeah look at Melo paying bad now against OKC all becuase of Westbrook. Goatbrook takes bad shots misses free throws but Melo kinda sucks now.
"There's no stats to show Westbrook plays hard"
Gives no stats to show he doesn't
We usually on the same page but throwing the fact they are 20-5 when he gets a triple double is crazy and I do agree KD is the best player in world before this Achilles injury
Thank you for debunking that myth about how he 'plays harder than everybody else'. I've always wondered if this was true, then how is he not a better defender and have never been mentioned in any defense-oriented discussion. Not to mention that he doesn't make anybody better. Everyone with solid potential who has left him (Harden, KD, Oladipo) have gone to do significantly better things than they could with him.
Edit: PG13 is making a huge mistake by staying on OKC. I feel for him, who has all the potential in the world but is now stuck with a serial ballhog who has the stubbornness of a thousand mules
Interesting how you mentioned some valid points - but completely left out other important facts that don't fit your narrative. While I could agree with some points it was just too obvious you like your prepicked opinion much more than the actual truth. Some examples:
1) Russ getting rebounds doesn't help OKC on fastbreaks, guards should be running: leaving out that you need guys who are able to make those passes, showing a video with mostly wings running on the fastbreak (like it is in reality), leaving out the fact that good transition defense will intercept those passes by a non-guard while Westbrook grabbing the rebound gives you better passing, the option of a one man fastbreak (with possibly a pass to an open teammate after wreaking havoc on the defense) and the option of starting a half-court offense immediately with a lower risk of turnovers by bigs and the players on offense plus the ball where they should be. Maybe mention any of that next time and you'd be more credible instead of claiming 'facts' that aren't facts.
2) Russ only won one more game despite an 'all-star roster': poor coaching especially in terms of integrating Melo, Melo's bad performances, Roberson's injury, none of that mattered, right?
3) PG and Melo performing worse playing alongside Russ, being all-stars before but not/barely after: Melo's age, overall bad play, both going from East to West, PG going from 1st to 2nd option, all non-factors in the all-star voting, huh? But sure, painting the whole picture doesn't fit your narrative that it's Westbrook's fault lol.
4) Losing to Houston with a 'good' roster: that good roster where exactly one guy (Roberson) next to Russ did not play significantly worse compared to the regular season? That series where OKC was 62 (!) points worse with Russ taking a breather while Houston was 3 points better with Harden off the court? Exactly, Russ didn't show up and OKC lost because of him lol.
I could go on but it's more than obvious. Not that I wouldn't agree with some of your points like Russ ain't playing hard off ball on offense, him being inefficient as a shooter or taking too many bad shots. I do agree with that and I'm hoping for two years now that Russ gets a very different kind of coach to work on his weaknesses.
Still I can't take a video seriously that claims to tell the truth but then leaves out half of it and even gives false information in order to not have to adjust the false narrative on Westbrook. Is there maybe one Westbrook critic out there capable of making an argument without hating, disregarding and ignoring 'uncomfortable' truths? That would be awesome.
i see westbrooks shortcomings but the way you approached this video was by no means impartial. He is despite his controversy, extremely talented and will no doubt be a top 10 point of all time.
On pure ability yes, skill and winning not so much
Top 10 athlete? yes. Top 10 ego? yes. Top 10 ballhog? Yes. Top 10 point guard all time? definitely not.
Spot on.
Westbrook is an amazing talent with the aggressive athleticism and a will to win. I love that guy!
Stats are overrated.. use your eyes
If Thunder could go back in time, they would've had Westbrook go to Houston
Nah they'd have sent ibaka to houston and amnestied perkins.
First quote is so true
I just watch these cuz i like the beat 😂
Will LBJ be able to control this dumdum?
I doubt it but if anyone could do it maybe it’s Lebron one of the 3 greasiest players of all time
Update 6 months later: Lakers are 27-32 and might not even make the playoffs, so the answer is no
Im sorry but your voice kinda annoys me. But keep working
Look, when russ have a t double, it’s 80% that okc is going to win.
Secondly, russ have more game winners than anyone in the last 2 years
When you play non playoff teams that’s bound to happen
Oscar Robertson, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird obtained their many triple doubles by simply being superb basketball players. Russell Westbrook chases triple doubles by stat padding. This is why no true basketball fan will ever put Westbrook on the same level as Oscar Robertson, Magic or Bird.
Magic and Bird played to win. Westbrook plays for stats.
How can you steal a rebound? Either you get it or not! You telling me no one on the other team can stop Russ from getting rebounds?
Videos of Russ stealing rebounds like a crocodile speak for itself.
Alabama Abe They probably could but let's not act like Westbrook doesn't have a massive ego. I highly doubted that goes over well. So they can stop him from doing so but what does that do for team morale if your "leader" is losing his mind going off because he's "robbed" of his triple double
Alabama Abe there are videos of him stealing rebounds LOL
Yeah, theres video evidence of his teammates blocking for him or getting out of the way or giving him the rebound to pad up his stats. THERES AN EXAMPLE IN THIS VIDEO LOL @ 04:11 !!!! Carmelo is blocking out for him to grab the rebound haha.
im2hastyle you're supposed to box so your team get a rebound. And on the play @ 4:11 the ball was going to go out of bounds before Russ get it. Melo was just going to let it go
Good points there, but I am not defending Russ, obviously should have made it further into the playoffs, but we should be fair, his achievement means something at least.
4:51 this argument is weak af. What does the 10th of anything have to do with anything else. It is "MORE" assists, rebounds and points not the "10th."
Yes the rebounds are useless, the points are inefficient but are still good. However, people talking about him "artificially" creating assists is bullshit. By making sure his pass counts as an assist he is making sure that the possession counts, and that's good PERIOD.
Yeah it may be a forced triple double because of rebound situation but the points-assists double-double, though inefficient, is still 100% legit.
ebrahim alfardan I like that mindset, but I'll tell you one thing I disagree with here: Russ being first on turnovers-per-game.
Yea, if the pass gets through, it's a possession saved from being a wasted one. But if out of every 10 assists you get, you have 6 turnovers (Don't actually know what his turnover-per-game # is) then, under basic math, that's worth just as much as 4 assists and no turnovers. It's ineffective, and ugly. Obviously it's not that simple to sum it up just like that, there's more details and stuff, like the turnovers would only cancel out the assists if the other team scores with the turnovers, but I'm trying not to go into too much detail here.
Under this idea, Westbrook only saved 4 possessions instead of 10 possessions, because in order to get those 10 saved possessions, he had to waste 6 possessions.
John Centeno Totally agreed, maybe if you make a new stat to account for possessions created like say, rebounds + steals - turnovers, this would eliminate Russ's double digit rebounds but I can't see how turnovers affect his assist, yes they both come as result of his high usage, but he is the PG, he should have the ball more than other players.
I disagree with what you said about the assists. He makes sure that if the ball does go in, it results in an assist for him, instead of letting someone else get the assist within the flow of the offense that probably will result in a better shot.
Joshua Dohring yeah i agree with you. There are some videos that shows russ getting upset for his teammate not shooting after getting a pass from him, thats just disgusting. But I’m still optimistic on him that he can change his mindset to at least involve his teammates more. I would rather like him to get 6-8 assist with 3 other teammates having 4 or more assists.
From my perspective, my only criticism is when Westbrook riders say things like ''Westbrook is a better player than Curry because he averages 10 apg and Curry can barely average 6''. Any starting point guard could get 10 apg if they had the usage rate of Russ as well as the system OKC play. Russ averages 10apg but OKC average 20 apg as a team, Steph averages 6 apg but GS average 30 apg. I'm not arguing that Russ' assists are bad because they aren't, I'm arguing how 'impressive' they are because they really aren't when you consider most PGs could do the same if they were allowed to be the play maker the whole game instead of moving the ball around.
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The only thing this guy good at is hating players like Westbrook and lebron
No surprise that he don’t have good audience
i dont understand how stating facts is hating
NBA so saying KD is better than lebron is not hating?
Wang Ping nope if you said bron is trash kd is the best then you're hating but jus saying kd is better isn't hating
NBA but you know he is not
Wang Ping I don't follow? Are you saying Kd isn't better than bron?
No team with Russell Westbrook will ever win a title.
Okay. We’ll see
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This a Great Video Tho
The most overrated MVP of all ti- wait............... Yh he's definitely the most overrated player to win that award.
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Al Coholic you missed Steph curry too
Kierston Deloach he's overrated yes, but not to the same degree as Westbrook
derrick rose mvp? just a suggestion not saying it
Uh Steve nash
Numbers and analytics are deceptive Ask any real coach.
Sometimes a player's presence on the floor can alter defenses.
He's a top 3 pg.....endorsed and approved of by Oscar Robertson, Jordan and Iverson.
I'll take their word over yours.
go ahead don't change the fact your top 3 pg has been slapped outta the first round twice in a row
I wished stats would show how little basketball iq and poor decision-making Westbrook have
DLX Infinite plz just stop
LOL....Again, I'll take a pro ballers words over anonymous non-players.
DLX Infinite were not arguing his top 3 point guard because he is. It’s the people that think he’s top 5 in the NBA and better than curry
OKC Fan: Russ you gonna deliver us a champion right?
Westbrick: Nah, Triple Double and stat padding comes first Cody!
There was one other All-star with Russ and PG was inconsistent in the playoffs, case in point 5 pts in a elimination game
idk why the hoodie Melo at 9:26 had me dying lmao
Brrrrrrrrilliant!
to be fair the difference in competition between the east and west should be mentioned.
and westbrook still has an opportunity to improve, consequently if he does improve his game it should also extend his career, both as something desired and the physical ware on him.
thank you, i've been saying all of these things. he's been surrounded by kd, harden, oladipo, kanter, pg13, and melo throughout his career and people still wanna say he has no help...aside from lbj who has had more help? whenever a player leaves him they get better, they join him, they look like they should be in the g-league.
what he's done is prove these individual stats are meaningless. there are tons of all-stars who could average a triple double if it was all they played for. harden and lbj could probably average 50 ppg if they didn't think about anything else. it would just come with constantly losing teammates and getting bounced in round 1.
he might find a better coach in g league
Absolutely excellent video. Gotta wonder what that thunder team would have been if they got rid of Westbrook instead of Harden. Could’ve been all-time, I think. But that’s just me. I think a guy like Danny Ainge would have made that move
From the moment I found out about KD's move, after the initial shock of who he went to of course, all I could think was "Welp, I mean I wouldn't want to play Westbrook either."
That clip with the big men rebounding and dishing the ball to the other side of the court...that's Steven Adams. That's exactly what they need to have more of in their games.
I wish half the players played as hard as he does, ya maybe you right with this shit but this guy is a machine. Plays with passion.