The Vengeance MK III: Rebuild. No More Ladders, All Custom Habs from the Latest Update, New Design
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- čas přidán 22. 06. 2024
- This is a redesign of my most popular ship design, the Vengeance.
This is a Class C Ship, utilizing the Cabot C4 Bridge as the main portion of this build.
This build removes all ladders from the design (even the half ladder from the docker) and utilizes the NEW custom "empty" habs to create a stylish and functional interior
Requirements:
Character level 60+
Piloting Skill: Rank 4
Starship Design Skill: Rank 4
Outpost Engineering Skill: Rank 3 (for interior designs)
Decoration Research 3 Completed (for interior designs)
900,000 Credits (not including starter ship)
Chapters:
00:00 - 00:51 Intro
00:52 - 02:02 Ship Showcase
02:03 - 09:52 Parts
09:53 - 11:24 Parts Glitching Tutorial
11:25 - 28:31 Ship Build
28:32- 34:05 Ship Tour - Hry
Important Note: I got the duplicate command for Xbox wrong in the video (I guess my Google-Fu is not as strong as I thought). To duplicate a piece on Xbox, just hover over the piece you want to duplicate and press "Y". Its that simple.
I apologize for the misinformation. Thanks to @QuestorWI for bringing this to my attention.
You're welcome. Any idea why I can't get the flip glitch to work though?
@@QuestorWI I have a hunch why it might not work for you. At least I also encountered a problem at first. Solution: To use the flip glitch, you have to move the corresponding item to the place where you want it to be. Now flip it so often that it would be in the position you want it to be in with the next flip. Now flip (“Y”) and then press “B” (Xbox / I don't know the “Cancel” or “Back” button for the PC at the moment) shortly afterwards without rushing. It will then take about 1 second and the object will turn green. I hope this helps you.
:) Beautiful ship AND a great introduction into the whole process!
@@justasaac2003 :) Sure helped me, ty!
Nice to see you learned how to stack the SAL's rather than have them take up 4 attachment slots. I've been frustrated by builders that don't seem to know you can stack some class C engines to make one larger engine while retaining the power and mobility of two.
I love how you help the viewer through the otherwise frustrating process of figuring out how to go around to the different shipyards to buy all the parts.
Thank you! I hate looking for parts myself. So my goal is to make the process easy for everyone.
@@TeamScorpioRI :) It shows. You either have a talent for education, or at least some experience in that field!
@@dayegilharno4988 I do. I am a software trainer by day.
You somehow made the ONLY Cabot ship that doesn't look like a freaking FROG. Congrats, man!
Lol.. I saw all those Frog builds on reddit. They are interesting in design, for sure.
I've got 1.6K million saved up and I was waiting for this...
You only need like three perfect ships and you always provide them
Thank you! These empty habs really are opening up possibilities for ships. Ships can be smaller or more streamlined now with habs. The downside is less habs = less hull points (ship HP), so shields are going to play a bigger roll.
I’ve just started ship building so this was very helpful especially the glitches. Outstanding build, I love the layout and the shape of the ship.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the ship!
I really appreciate the time taken to go step by step. Great job
You are welcome! Hope you enjoy the ship.
Beautiful ship design and great tutorial! Hope to see more of your ideas.
Thank you! I have more ships on my channel, including ones from specific manufacturers (nova only, Hopetech only, etc) and some other fun ones.
Love the layout of everything! I am going to give this build a try.
Keep up the great work!
Thank you! Hope you like it.
The duplicate glitch - I always learn something new in your videos.
I just learned about it myself. It works on any 2 space piece that can be duplicated. I tried it with fuel tanks and other types of engines (I did it with the Supernova's as well on the side). Its really useful for the SAL engines though.
There’s also the drop-down duplication glitch. You can merge non-habs into each other if you want to condense the build. Just use structural pieces that have a top/bottom hook point and highlight the desired items, then the top or bottom part of the structural piece to drop it down or nudge it up. You need to be able to duplicate both to do this glitch however
I'm still trying to master that one to the point where I can explain it. I would love to merge things like the grave drive and the reactor together.
I think I have that figured out now to the point where I can demonstrate it in a video. I might see if I can apply that to my other ship, the Celestial Saber. I've been wanting to do an MKII version of that ship for a while now.
Great design with nice flow. I'm going to apply your design to my current Cabot bridge ship. Very instructive video, thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Hopefully you like the ship.
Everyone always seems to forget about Aneutronic Fusion. Such a good skill to get, extra power is never wasted.
Good point. I'll make sure to start including that skill in my videos as well under the recommended options.
I would really like to both compliment you on this ship design and video tutorial skills. Even for a beginner like me, your instructions were super easy to follow. The ship itself looks amazing inside and out and can annihilate bounty hunter ships in seconds. Excellent job and thank you! :)
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
I actually never heard of those glitches, cool thanks
No problem. Some people consider it "cheating", but I prefer to look at it as a blending technique that is left in the game (and apparently the devs used themselves to construct some of the ships).
Every time I made a ship it always just was to big...too many ladders...or just ugly...the ship you made...perfect...looks amazing...and even no ladders amazing build :D
Thank you! I appreciate it.
Dang, dude! That is a nice ship!!!
Thank you!
Just finished building this ship. It dominates in combat! Now I'll spend the rest of the night gathering resources and decorating the ship!
Glad you like it! Have fun decorating it! It has plenty of room to make it your own
amazing job
I'm glad you like it. Make sure to check out some of my other designs on the channel.
Man, you saved my day with the engine glitch 🖖👍👍👍👍👍
Glad to hear it! It works with other engines as well, FYI
Another awesome Build! This could very well be my end game home ship... Unless a MK IV comes along :)
We shall see.. lol... I honestly don't know what I would do with an MKIV version unless they do a big update to the ship builder again. Like make all structures flippable in all directions, or add new parts to the builder.. Then I may need to go and redesign. Until then, this is its Final Form #SubjectToChange
Looks awesome
Thank you!
Absolutely love the use of these new empty HAB’s, I might add some breaking thrusters to the outside and reconfigure the weapon placements.. but definitely a lovely design for efficiency and rp factors
These new empty habs are my favorite. You can do so much with them. I have another ship where I used the mess hall to make a captians quarters/armory/crafting/lounge hab.
absolutely amazing !!!! i'll try this build later, because right now i'm broke.. (because of the NG stuff 😡)
Nice!
I do love a no ladder build
Thanks Doc! Have you played around with the empty habs yet? They have some interesting pathing going on vs the decorated ones.
@TeamScorpioRI really?
No I haven't not yet.
I saw you said they connected in a circle, that's nice.
Yeah. Empty habs add doors at all points, so now you can make a circle if placed right. They are fun, but they do also add some weird doors. A 3x3 connected to a 3x3 will give you 3 doors. Weird
@TeamScorpioRI dude what ok i have got to play with this.
Thanks man
Dude... Rad. Building this tonight
Thanks! Hope you enjoy it.
11 out of 10 for this one bro. What a legend. Im going to make this one today i think. Ive just clicked over 5mil creds. Just need to work out where to get the letters you got in the hab. Didnt know we could add them like that. Another great build. Love your stuff
Thank you! I appreciate it. The letters are in the hab customization, but you may need to have at least researched decoration level 2 in order to access them (I may be wrong about that)
Sweet. Just looked now. Have maxed out the research I outpost development. I'll go find where the letters are now
Found it... lol. I hadn't gone far enough down on the decoration tab in the ship decorator. Whoop whoop. What a legend
It took me a while to find everything as well. The letters can be tricky to place. They need to sit on something, but they are too big to go on the built in shelves that are in the habs. The one right as you enter the ship I had to kind of "float" them in a very specific spot in order to stick.
I'd love if we could use them on the outside of the ship as well.
That would be awesome if we could use them on the outside. Maybe one day in a future update they will give us the option.
Why you can't just perchance ship parts, store than, and then use them latter is beyond me.
I would love that. Make it so I can start from a blank slate (no need to buy a ship) and as long as the ship is not your home ship, it doesn't need to be flyable to save the design.
Like, if I am building a car. I understand that I may need to drive to a couple different stores to get the parts I want... but I don't do it in the car I am building! Its definitely one of the more frustrating parts of ship building (I would say more so than the ability to place doors/ladders.. I can at least work around that).
Exactly! Another huge missed opportunity.
This was by first build from pretty much scratch. I had to make a few minor changes due to missing skills, I think. I had to change the quantity of some of the guns and I couldn’t get the ones on the mount to connect to the hull, so I had to switch types on those. But this thing kicks the crap out of any single ship out there before the auto turrets even fire.
I’m thinking my next pass through, I’ll try different hats. Just for fun.
Glad you like it!!
Amazing! Not just the great work you've done, which is ace level, but the way you present everything, pause, explain.. makes it so easy to follow!
I gotta ask, are you a teacher by any chance? :)
Thank you! You are close. I am a trainer for a medical software company.
Honestly I can't wait until we get to build M class ships. That'd be awesome.
You and me both! I want to build the REALLY big ships!
@@TeamScorpioRI There's a ship on the Nexus Mods called the "Nova Galactic Megaship" that serves as a really good example of what players might be able to do if they could build M Class ships. I wish I could link it, but youtube is youtube (I think), so if ye type that exact name in the search bar there ye should find it.
I enjoyed watching your video. You are clear and concise on how to get parts and complete. You made yours look good from decorating. I can’t decorate so I didn’t use blank Habs. I will be updating as no captains quarters and no where for my peeps to sleep. The engine room is useless in my case. The only think I wasn’t fond of and had to modify was the fuel! Was only 210 capacity in the one you had. Couldn’t go from Kryx to Serpentis.
Fuel is a little light on this one, but nothing that adding a 900t tank wouldn't solve. You should give a try with the decorations. I didn't think I could do it as well, but it was kind of intuitive. I just set up things as I would like to have them in my own house.
You can just start in New Homestead and buy the Discovery for half the price of the Rambler. Also, I'll be making this ship tonight. Thanks.
Really?? Good to know. I knew there was a 30k ship around somewhere. But couldn't remember where.
Built mine to from your video looks awesome, i had to use diferent engines as purposely have not done all that money can buy yet in process of decorating👍
Nice! The SAL6330's would work as well, you may lose some mobility, but I doubt it would be too noticeable (its about a 15 mobility difference between the 2 engines)
Every ship I build is ladderless , either by using mods or by simply making them one level high . The ladders wouldn't be nearly as bad if you could freely move your camera while climbing them . There are stairs and elevators in the game , all we need is the creation kit to make them something we can use freely .
I don't mind ladders as well, but the majority of the people looking for ship builds it seems loves ladder-less builds. I think its the frustration of not being able to place ladders where you want that drives these types of builds.
ship building saved starfield from bankruptcy and the best they could give people in an update after all the feedback was empty habs. which is just a checkbox on their end.
I wish they could have done more, but I will take whatever they can give. I'd love to see them have assignable doors, or the ability to flip structural pieces in all directions. I think alot of the good ship upgrades will be with the modders.
Nice !
Thanks!
Hi, Thx for another Insane Ship Build, i make the fuel Tank a little difrent, so i have 800 fuel on the same place. Sorry about my English.
No worries! Modifications and improvements are always welcome with my builds. What tank did you use in its place?
@@TeamScorpioRI Hi, i use two He3-Tank Atlas H30.
I'm sure the ship tech at the red mile is a relation to GTA5's Lester Crest!
lol.. Probably his great great great grandson.
Super video, love the ship, gonna be building that myself. Only one problem. Captain is the only one with a bed, i can see squabbling in the future. You know Cora is still gonna have to clean her room...
Yeah, I forgot to put in morr beds. I would recommend that you just take out some of the computers in the computer room and add in some bunk beds....
This is one of the coolest and craziest things I have seen on ship building those glitches I never would’ve figured that out great design I would choose different weapons lay out I buy all my weapons from red mile 250 guns I was impressed with my 12000 storage capacity on my ship but this is something I’m going to definitely do any ideas on the bridge I would love to remove those 2 extra seats can’t stand having a crew on bridge I use same bridge claymore really like that style I built a wall around them to keep the crew out office partitions and would love to shut off the intercom 1 thing I hate about this game great job buy the way awesome video
Thanks Steve! You can definitely load this with the weapons of your choice. I am partial to this specific load out, but I have been thinking of trying something new. Good idea with walls. I wish we could build/craft real walls and doors. Maybe someone will add that as a mod.
Speaking of mods, someone did release a "Less Chatty Crew" mod. So if you don't like them paging you over the intercom every 10 seconds, I recommend downloading that.
When landing at New Homestead, I always get stuck underneath the ship. So I built a shorter version of this by replacing the 3x1 with an empty 2x1.
I have had that happen a few times, and I have noticed it more with this last update. Normally I spawn on the side of the ship (whichever side has the landing bay), but specifically with NH, you spawn under the ship! Other planets, its fine.
wish list cargo habs increased cargo capacity. Npc benefits from habs.
Make building & selling ships a viable way to turn profit.
I would love that. That was one of the features on my "wish list" as well. Cargo would boost cargo capacity % based on the size of the cargo hab, battle station improves targeting lock speed, infirmary will actually cure status effects...
I would also love a better ship economy. Or maybe make it so if you side with the Crimson Fleet you get access to a special ship vendor who buys stolen ships without the need to register them.
Excellent build! I'm holding off on doing my next playthrough until they add more things to the game (like these empty habs). I'm dying for them to make multi-level habs. Like a 3x3x2 cargo hab. The ships, no matter how huge, always get too claustrophobic, and even though it would add a very slight complexity to ladders and hatches, 2-story habs are badly needed.
You might want to check out the Matilija Aerospace mod. They have this awesome 3x3x2 hab with a security station and a crafting room in it.
@@TeamScorpioRI Oh, thanks, I will check it out. Although I'm old school in that I really prefer not to use mods in games. lol
@@MrJedi5150 I get that. Generally most games I don't like to mod. Bethesda games seem different though. They encourage modding to progress development of the game. There are simple mods like "Better Piece Flipping" that should be in the regular game to begin with. Others, yeah.. they can be a bit "cheat focused".
That is a really sleek looking ship. Would love to see how she performs in combat.
I have some footage of basic combat in the beginning of the video. I usually test ships in the Serpentis System on Very Hard. It definitely held its own, especially with the auto turrets. They just rip things apart.
Cool
Thank you for the video. Nice work. I spent six hours on this and I cannot get it to work. No path to docker!! I cannot find what I did wrong. Flip glitch and engine blending work like a dream! The only thing I did different was I used a Pinch 8Z reactor. I'll tackle again later this week.
Did you use the empty hab variants? This may be the issue as the empty habs create unique pathing options for the ship (which is how I was able to create a circular path through the ship. Though if your docker is in the same spot mine is, you should be able to get to it somehow (as long as you can get to the rear mess hall hab).
I wish we could share video/images in the comments. It would help if I or we (we have a lot of skilled builders on here) could see your specific layout.
@@TeamScorpioRI Thanks for the reply. I truly appreciate it. I did use empty hab modules, as specified. I had my tablet on my lap, pausing your video, doing the build, and so on. I'll go over it again. I have all the purchased items on my Rambler on the ship builder pad on Androphon. I really like your builds. Great inspiration.
Thank you. Sounds like maybe a weird glitch? Odd that the docker won't connect.
FYI.. Someone else had the same issue. Turns out it was the 1x1 habs. There are a couple types of 1x1's. One of the storerooms does not have all the hookpoints (one of the walls is completely solid). Make sure your 1x1 has hookpoints on all sides.
@@TeamScorpioRI So ultimately, I put a slim docker just behind the cockpit on the top of 3x1 "art gallery" hab. There is a ladder, but not really. After docking, I'm just behind the pilot seat and ready for the next adventure! Thanks again for an awesome build and inspiration!
I primarily build M-Class ships using commands to get access to M-Class reactors, shields, and gravdrives. However, this may be the first C-Class that I consider actually using.
I really hope they put M-Class in the game officially.
I've been playing this since early access and it never occurred to me that you could block off ladder spawn points with portholes, dang, now it seems so obvious... I guess you could also use equipment plates if you don't want to have messed up ceiling?
Not sure that equipment plates work, actually. I don't think there is a collision setting on that piece, unlike the porthole that actually functions as a wall. Every time I have tried using equipment plates the ladder still spawns (but is unclimbable).
What you can do, for the floor, is use the decorate function and put a rug or one of the floor mats over it. That will cover the "hole" and your character will walk normally over it.
I play on my Xbox and find it hard to decorate my outposts and penthouse, let alone ship Hab's. Will thus build work with the regular Hab's? Or will I need to use different ones? As always a great build.
It should. But I am not sure how the normal habs will work with the pathing through the ship. The one thing about the empty versions is that it creates doors at all joining points with other habs, so it allows you to create a circular path through a ship. Previously with the pre-decorated habs, it would block off one end of the circle.
Any information about the background music at 5:10? It was really good.
Woo hoo.. someone who actually likes the music! lol... It's a royalty free track. I get them from TechSmith Assets. The track is called "Eternal Horizons"
@@TeamScorpioRI Thanks, there were others that were good too, but this one in particular is my favorite. Nice selection.
You can have Sam on your crew if you don't want to wait to get payload up to level 4.
Sam is a great ship companion. Helps with Payload and with ship top speed. He is a must have is any speed build.
Like the ship but wish it included everything. I hate decorating and never bother to do any, and I wish this had all the workstations and stuff…
Nice build though, thanks!
Just swap out the habs for the decorated versions. The patching will be a little different however. Empty habs have a unique path to them as for where they place the doors and ladders. That is really what made that circular path through this ship possible.
I actually built a Vengeance MkII. Wonder how hard it would be to upgrade.
I'm only level fifty, though, so I hd to buy a generator that was one step down from the one you recommended. There was only one other part I couldn’t buy, you have to be level fifty-three for it… dangit now I can’t remember what it was.
Anyway love my Vengeance MkII!
@@Akinius the MKII is a great ship! It was my main ship till this revision, and the only reason I redesigned it was to try out the empty habs.
@@Akinius Honestly the 39 power B class is all the power most people need, the 1 extra power for nearly 50 more mass isn't worth it, especially when you consider that the C class shield is only 100-150 hp more than the B class shields for like 70-90 mass extra.
The biggest thing that I have found to improve my ship building process it to almost completely ignore cargo space. I build one hauler for missions and then run with 1000-2000 base cargo on primarily b class combat ships.
havent used that bridge in ages, but im pretty sure the sequential connecting makes the bridge the only connecting interior for both floors.
It does. No other ladders are present in this build.
Are you sure the duplicate glitch for Xbox S is LB plus X, and if it is, can you explain it in detail as when I try it, the egine is deleted. I have googled it and the search result are few and confusing.
I think I may have gotten the command wrong there (I am on PC and I did some googling of the command as well). It looks like the Duplicate function is just hovering over the piece and hitting "Y".
Thanks for bringing this up, and I'll add a sticky comment to the build about it.
Don't wast your skill points on weapons and shields for your ship.. You get crew for that.
With Sarah and the crew perk you can have 9 crew member's. Guy with maxed out shields is in Akila.
Bonuses from Skills and Bonuses from crew stack with each other (though crew skills don't stack with other crew with the same skill, only the highest crew skill will apply). So it is very worth it to rank up your skills in ship weapons and shields, as then the crew will add on top of that.
God forbid they ever patch the ship building glitches! We’ll all have ships we can’t fly due to errors 😂
Right?? I actually am going to try and move away from calling them "glitches" and maybe refer to them as "blending techniques". It sounds more artsy and less "your not supposed to do that".
On the plus side, it wouldn't affect this ship too much. I'd need to remove the windows from the 1x1's (would probably need to redecorate), move the shield to the top of the ship, move the engines up one space, and find a new spot for the bottom weapons... Now, I would have a couple other ships that would be completely unuseable, namely my ShroudTerror build and my Raider build.
Can tell me how much I need I set through most of the videos building the ship to find out I don't have enough credits thanks
I usually put that in the description of my videos. You need about 900k for this one.
@@TeamScorpioRI thanks I must of missed it sorry about that 😬
@@Tony2438 No worries. I'll try to make it a point to put the cost in the video itself.
I'm level 32 and have level 4 pilot and 4 starship design. I just can never seem to build something without either getting low mobility or too many engines errors.
Can you do a video for class c ships at level 30?
At level 30, you are missing access to some of the higher end reactors and parts that get you up to that next level of ships. You have the Class C parts, but a good amount of stuff is level locked as well.
I'll put some low level builds on the list to get out, but it may be a while. In the meantine. I would check out WizeOldWizard here on CZcams. He has a build called the Aetos II which may work in the meantime.
Is it "Vol-Eye" or "Vol 2"? Like Vol, with Roman Numeral 2 - II?
It's Vol-eye.. At least that is how Walter says it in game, as well as the advertisement in front of the Volii Hotel on Neon. I used to think it was Vol-2, but got roasted in my comments on my first few videos.
I love this build, but I do have an issue. I'm level 60 but no vendor has the Stroud 2x2 Empty Battlestation and because of this the right side 1x1 doesn't have a doorway into the battlestation preventing a full loop. I'm on xbox so i don't know if that makes any difference.
So this is a weird glitch with the ship builder UI. If you head to Neon and visit the Stroud Eklund showroom, they do have the empty battle station... HOWEVER, it is not labeled as empty. There is a bug in the UI that cuts out the word, so it looks like its the regular battle station. When you select the piece, just hit I believe its RT. You will see the first battle station hab come up. Now keep hitting RT till you see it come up again. This is the empty variant (even though it doesn't say it)
@@TeamScorpioRI Thank you so much! That worked. When I initially looked through the habs i didn't pay attention that it showed up twice before cycling back around.
@@Ezeikial Yeah. What is weird is I don't remember it being that way in the beta. It only showed up like that after release. Hopefully they fix it in the next patch.
i am lvl 88 and only have flight 4 not one point in starship design yet and leveling now takes ages... may i gonna do outpost crafting with complex material crafting to get a few levels. i wanna build this ship.
I would say definitely do some outpost crafting. You need raw materials for the ship decoration, and bulk crafting things like adaptive frames is a good source of XP.
Hello, what's the name of the suite you're wearing?
Its the operator stealth suit from the Ryujin questline
31:43 that's what she said
LOL... Pretty much.
I followed the building instructions as far as possible. But I do not use the empty habs. Now I realize that I can't go from the cockpit backwards through the technical room and then turn right into the same storage room as on the left side to the battle station. For some reason there is no door there. The same storage room is on the left and I can get to the living area without any problems. At the back, you can cross the mess hall to the battle station. I don't understand why there is a door in the storage room on one side and not on the other. I also swapped the (not empty) living area and battle station once as a test and even then there was no doorway on the right-hand side. Is it really because the rooms are not empty, or am I missing something?
Its the way the ship builder creates the pathing. With empty habs, you can make a circular pathway through the ship. As far as I know, that is unique to the empty ones. I haven't done any testing yet with mixed habs to see just how it creates the pathing.
@@TeamScorpioRI Thank you for your quick reply. I have just tested with an empty battle station and then it gives you the missing door. So far, so good. Too bad, because I'm not that much of an interior decorator. I'm going to fly around a bit and have a look at Nova, Deimas and Tayo. Maybe there's a furnished 2x2 room there that also allows a direct passage on the right.
Thank you for your great channel here!!!!
@@justasaac2003 I am not much of a decorator either, but its not all that bad. I would say give it a try. Worse comes to worse, just fill the 2x2 with cargo crates! lol
@@TeamScorpioRI Well, I've found another solution by simply building a 3x1 all-in-one and a 2x1 living quarters on the right-hand side instead of the storage room and the 2x2 hab. It actually looks coherent and the crew has gained a place to sleep.
I can't get the engineering bay to flip green,NVM I forgot to cancel.
I don't know how this is possible but my 3x2 is a 2x3 and i can't rotate it as that option don't exist....edit there are 2 versions of it at neon, the 2nd set is rotated 90 degrees,
my stroud fore cap B won't flip 180 foward\backwards it's only flipping top to bottom, any idea how to fix this?
The fore cap only flips upside down. You can't flip it backwards like you can with the Cap A piece. There is a separate piece for the backwards portion.
@@TeamScorpioRI yeah i found a A cap on that Paradiso planet with the hotel.
What's the point in doing this at your outpost? Can't it be done anywhere else? I never liked the outpost building thing. So if I have to level up outpost perks and build an outpost before building the ship, well, I guess it's getting expensive 😅
It can absolutely be done other places, its just more running around for the various pieces. Outpost building gives you the widest amount of parts from all manufacturers at a single location. And really, all you need at the outpost is the large landing pad. That's it.
If you were to do this outside of the outpost, I would probably build the final step at Neon, as it uses Stroud and Taiyo parts, you would also need to pick up the Hopetech Cab B mids at Hopetown, and grab the shielded cargo holds at the Red Mile.
Will this layout not work if I don't use empty Habs?
Maybe, but the pathing through the ship will be completely different. Empty habs have a unique way they create doors. They put a door at every point they attach to another hab. This is what gives this ship the circular pathing. Using the pre-decorated versions may work, just the pathing may get a little funny.
@@TeamScorpioRI The layout works fine with normal habs after testing, and I ended replacing most of them with bigger habs. I've always had problem with the Cabot C4. I can never get the side entry point to work with it. Works fine at the start, but after putting on a few peaces it always start giving me message that it's not connected even if I haven't touched it. either way thanks for the vid. Love it
so the crew do not get any bed? :D
LOL... Nope! They can sleep on the floor!!
This actually dawned on me while I was doing the walkthrough. I'd probably rebuild the Battle Station Hab a bit to include a crew quarters. Take some of the computer terminals and put in a row of bunk beds.
I'm not sure what's going, the flip glitch is not working on my Xbox and changing variance doesn't do anything either. I don't know if I've got a buggy landing pad or what . I will try exiting the game shutting everything down and trying a different one of my outposts should read I built outpost on three different planets and the quest has not cleared period could that be causing a problem?
If you have never done it before, it may take some practice. It took me a while to get it on PC.
I was able to use the flip glitch when I use it's make another ship I just don't know why it's not working now
Does the ship have to be one that I purchased or can it be one that I stole and registered
@@QuestorWI It can be any ship. The only one you can't use is a Starborn vessel. I would definitely say steal a ship. Its less expensive in the long run.
I figured out it was me doing the flip glitch wrong. I was hitting A instead of B to cance so it wasn't working properly. Got the ship built, but now I've run into a problem. I'm doing a mission and landed on the planet, and I can't get out of the ship or take off again. I made the mistake of standing up, and boy, that was an interesting experience. I was in, like, void world. I couldn't find the captain's chair to sit down again, so I had to reload a save. I'm hoping restarting the game will clear up that problem. It has nothing to do with your ship design my game just goes glitchy every once in awhile. I don't know why I've always had bad luck with Bethesda games doing weird s*** even on PC.
Hi I am having trouble getting the empty battle station hab 2×2 from Stroud
What type of trouble? Habs are available at level 1, so it should be there and selectable for you. One bug I have found is that it may not say "empty" (not sure if this is a character display limit). But if you go to the 2x2, and select the left variant (left arrow on PC, not sure on Xbox what changes variants), it should bring you to the empty versions. Just keep hitting the left till you see the battle station.
That's the problem I am not seeing an empty 2x2 hab
They are there. Like I said, it just may not be labeled as empty (or you haven't installed the latest patch?). Some of the habs are not labeled correctly, I have found. If you keep selecting the next variant, there will be at least one 2x2 that is actually labeled as empty (probably the cargo hall or the Brig). The Battle station is right next to them (all the empty habs are grouped together).
@@TeamScorpioRI ok now sorted thanks great ship
Where does the crew sleep?
Meh.. they can bunk up under the pool table. Lol....
I actually thought of that while I was doing the tour, totally forgot the crew quarters. I'd probably remove some of the computers in the battle station and add some bunks.
Maybe put a gym in the area that you didn't know what to do with.
Not a bad idea. I kind of wish I could remove the shelving, but its actually part of the hab.
Really like the layout. But I have an issue... I can never get the connection from companionway-to-security hab to make a door. I tried both the companionway and the storage 1x1, and it's the same whether I use the empty or the furnished security bay 2x2 hab. I've built/re-built the layout a couple times now and get same thing every time. Anyone else seen this? (PC build)
It shouldn't be a security hab. The habs on either side are the battle station and the living quarters. A security hab might be putting the door behind one of the cells.
@@TeamScorpioRI sorry! I meant the battle stations hab … 🤦🏻♂️
@@donzielke8687 hmmm.. ok. There were a couple other people who commented something similar, but it was because of the 1x1 hab. There is one variation that has a wall on one side. Not saying that is the case here, bit just a theory. Pull the 1x1s off. The one you should be using should have hook points on all sides.
All No Ladders builds look the same. I've never had an issue with them.
I don't mind ladders either. Just a LOT of people want no ladders for some reason.
Though I do wish we could have elevators instead of ladders. That would be fun
@@TeamScorpioRI I agree, I wish they make a 2x2x2 Hab.
I'd love that. It would make sense for an engineering bay, or even give us a "botonny lab" like you see in some of the capital ships that you can board.
You got nine people there in one bedroom or am I missing something . Maybe you should have added crew quarters
Meh.. they can sleep on the pool table. Lol
I actually didn't think of adding it. I'd probably remove some of those computer terminals in the battle station and put them there.
@@TeamScorpioRI you can always redo the bedroom off of the captain's office add 4 sets of bunk beds
True. I did kind of want my own bedroom though. Part of me also thinks the whole dinning area could go and that be the crew area. The nice thing about the empty habs is I can reconfigure it whenever I want.
@TeamScorpioRI May I ask you a very stupid question . Can you stagger Build the ship To have the ability to put more Gas tanks Energy generators Shield generators When you are building multiple Levels of your ship ,in a way to hide them too . Do not only As much storage space as possible legally or illegally As well as keep them from being able to scan the ship . But still make it as powerful as hell As well As keep it maneuverable . I also like the automatic torrents Unfortunately I don't have an xbox . Have fun I hope to see more content
You can add more fuel tanks, but you can only have one shield generator, one grav drive, and one reactor... That is unless you have mods installed that gives you the ability to have more. And unfortunately adding more fuel doesn't really get you too much unless you are using the really small tanks (one of the 900t Tanks is all you really need).
Its a really big balance between cargo capacity and maneuverability. This MK3 build is the closest I have come to having a good amount of storage and keeping the maneuverability up. Now, if maneuverability is not a big concern, and you like having automatic weapons, you can check out my Strongbow build. Its a HEAVY ship, but with almost 50k cargo and all automatic weapons.
Damnit. Cannot reach cockpit from docker!!! How is this possible. I followed this to a T
Weird.. It should connect without a problem (as the docker is on the same level as the cockpit). I wish we could share images on here so I can see your connections. The path has to be interrupted somewhere, but it shouldn't be if you are using empty habs.
The docker is connected to the hab, right? It didn't attach to another piece (which I wouldn't put past the ship builder to do something odd)? It should be connected to the rear 2x3 hab, on the right side (as you are looking from the back of the ship towards the cockpit), just behind the 2x2 hab on that side.
@@TeamScorpioRII figured it out. There was a few versions of a 1x1 and I was using the wrong ones. Thanks. 🙏
Ahhh... Yeah, there are those silly 1x1's that have one wall completely blocked. Those will mess up a build
why does it look better? game wise...
They dropped a new update that definitely did some improvements to the game (probably one of the more positively reviewed patches by the community since launch). Xbox got a HUGE boost to graphics with the inclusion of 60fps.
I really haven't changed any settings on my computer, so any graphic improvements you see are the game itself. I am hoping to get a new computer soon so I can boost up the graphics a bit (I'm running an old 2070 Super, which is close to being tapped out).
To bad they don't have more options for more ladders
Agreed. I'd love different types of connectors between habs. Like for ladders, give us the choice of ladders, stairs or an elevator (would be its own hab). Even the doors, I'd love to chose between a round or square door.. or even let me just have an arch between the habs (no door at all).
Jesus! I just go to landing pad at outpost.
I do when its ready for final assembly. Not all pieces can be purchased at the outpost. Habs are only the single space wide (no 2x2 or 2x3, like I use), so to get the bigger habs you need to visit the manufacturers. The bridge is only available at New Homestead, and the jammer is only available at either the Key or the Red Mile (if you sided with SysDef and no longer have access to the Key).
That is, unless you have the mod that gives you all the pieces at all vendors. But I was not using mods for this build.
You forgot to put in a space toilet...
Nope, in the entertainment area, there is a bathroom on the wall, next to the window.... though with these empty habs, you do have to remember to use at least one module with a bathroom. You can craft a toilet and a sink in the decorator.. but you cannot craft any walls to create an actual bathroom. I would make a 2x1 a nice BIG bathroom, if I could also craft things like showers and a jacuzzi.
@TeamScorpioRI I found the craftable toilet, but it can't attach to the wall and is too close to the floor. It looks more like a kids' training potty.
@@Dreddpool82 yeah.. the toilet looks really weird. I don't like it, so I never craft one.
was super into the ship build until you started glitching parts together.
Easy enough to modify without the glitches. Most of them are because I wanted to clear out the 1x1 habs, and because they changed the shape of the cowling when flipped upside down, so weapons don't attach right under the ship. Here is how to build without using glitches.
- Don't add any side portholes to the 1x1s. This was done to clear out the junk inside making it easier to decorate. This will allow adjoining pieces to connect without flipping.
- Take the bottom 2 Obliterators and move them to another spot. Should be plenty of open hook points to attach them to (I just prefer them under the ship like that)
- Move the top engines up one spot. this will separate them. you may want to add a hopetech pipe fore to them to give the exposed part of the engines a little shape.
Thats it. 3 simple modifications and its done. Next build I am going to add instructions at the end of the build on how to complete without using these techniques.
The Hell with Eve Online. The game has turned into gangster groups that have taken over even the Safe Systems. You need their permission to live there and must pay them or they will declare war on you and keep attacking you. So screw Eve Online.
Never played Eve Online, but that environment reminds me of Star Trek Fleet command. Great game to start, but then you are constantly raided by other players. To the point where your only choice is to spent $$$ on items that stop other players from attacking you. That is no fun to me. Luckily, Starfield doesn't have any of that. :-)
Well done video, but loose the super annoying music
Is it the type/genre of music? Or is it to high in the mix? I have it buried at 10% volume as background music. I
@@TeamScorpioRI It’s like a synthesized version of Muzak. It’s so neutral as to be completely devoid of anything that makes music…music. What I’m saying here is of course, completely subjective, but I think many would agree with me on this. Maybe try something like jazz, classical or even a good movie soundtrack. Anyhow, thank you for reaching out and asking.
No, I completely get what you are saying. Last video I had I used a rock theme (it was an aggressive ship) and someone said it was too harsh. I probably went too far the other way with this one. lol
All I heard was "we are going to use cheats" and I tune out, I get people love doing shit they aren't suppose to do, but it not for me.
Its not a "cheat", but a mechanic in the builder that is allowed via the vanilla game, and does not mark your game file as modded. Its universally called a "glitch" by the community, so that is the language I use. I could say its a "blending technique", similar to blending colors to create new ones.
Now, if I said, "we are going to use console commands to allow us to blend parts".. then I would call it cheating.
If you want ships that do not use that technique, I would recommend checking out my HopeTech or Taiyo builds. Those do not use these techniques on any parts.
I was enjoying the video till you mentioned the use of a glitch 😢then i lost all interest
Sorry to hear that. These are viable techniques in the game, and actually apparently used on some of the in-game ships as well. Look at them as "blending techniques" similar to how an artist will blend colors together, than a "glitch".
@@TeamScorpioRI Not to me. This so called blending technique is an exploit and I consider it cheating so I wont use it.
Fair enough. To each their own. It actually wouldn't be that bad to build this without those techniques. Here is what you can do.
-Do not add the portholes to the 1x1 habs.
-Move the shield generator to the top of the ship ontop of the med-bracer (currently hidden under one of the caps)
-Relocate the 2 Obliterator cannons from under the ship (why these can't fit UNDER the ship when they fit on top without issue is just silly)
-Move the top engines up one space.
Really, that is it. I think the biggest change is actually the engines, but it would still work. No glitching/blending needed after that. Everything else fits normally on the ship.
@TeamScorpioRI I like how you provided someone else with other ideas even though this is your work of art. I personally wouldn't have had the modesty to do that, considering all of the work you put into this. This is why I subscribed.
@thoughtoftheory Thank you and welcome to the team. I don't mind offering different ideas. It often gets me thinking how I cam improve myself, or gives me different ideas to incorporate in future builds. As long as everyone remains respectful, then we are all good.
I hate ladders
Then this or my Archangel builds are for you. No ladders on either of these ships. I am also working on another one that has no ladders, but it does have stairs (using a mod).
There is so much that falls short in Starfield. The ability to place ladders and doors yourself is just a clear case of incompetency.
Its a little annoying, but I have found ways around it for now. I would LOVE to be able to click on a hookpoint and turn the door/ladder on or off. Its possible, because there is a mod that does it. I am trying to go mod free with this channel though.
Personally, I haven't really touched ship building cause there isn't a way to save your design to a blueprint of some sort. You should be able to have access to all parts from one location so something like that would be possible, or have ship building yards where you go to have them printed out. They will tell you that even though they don't have all the parts, they will have them shipped in or something.
@@ahtilah1194 Its definitely sucks that you can't save a design. I always thought that as long as the ship is not your home ship, you should be able to leave it unfinished.
I also agree with the staryard idea. That was my big wish on my wishlist video. I wanted to be able to build a staryard like we can build outposts. One of the modules you can add is a "ship builder". But, what I thought would have been cool is it would not have any parts to begin with. Instead, what you would do is complete a questline for specific manufacturers (think like the Ryujin questline, in length). Once you complete the questline for that manufacturer, it adds ALL the parts from that manufaturer to your staryard builder. It would add more quests, and allow you to build the parts you want into your yard.
@@TeamScorpioRI It's one thing I loved in Space Engineers. I can save my designs and print them out later. I can even build my own vehicle printer.
You can easily figure out how to get ladders and doors where you want them
It takes practice and patience but most want things handed to them instead of working for it
Ship cargo values ?? Maneuverability ? Range ?? Power ?? THE most important things are hidden, making me believe all these are miserable. Sorry dude, a nice but useless ship have no place in my book.
Not hidden at all. After the ship build, and before the tour, I show all the stats for the ship, both while still in the builder (before bonuses) and out of the builder (where crew and stat bonuses take effect). Jump to about 28:32 ti see for your self, but here they are.
Stats:
Maneuverability is 91
Weapons: 103/90/156
Shield: 2560
Cargo: 12240 (640 shielded)
Hull: 1525
Range 30LY
Crew: 9
Reactor Power: 40
I will try in my future videos to put the stats earlier, during the ship preview.
@@TeamScorpioRI - thanks, my bad, I skipped that second, now I see - but I was kind of right about stats, you have a very bad power problem ( 20 !!) and the lowest speed. Add the questionable maneuverability... and I can say this build will not stand a chance in "extreme" mode, vs high rank Ecliptic ships. You cannot outrun them, nor outmaneuver, and any shield in-game, no matter how strong, cannot stand more than 3-4 seconds of heavy fire before collapsing. The only thing who keeps you alive is speed and maneuverability. Shields are the last one.
A pair of Claymore II or III, backed by a pair of Falcata or Stiletto, will eat this build in no time, at "extreme" mode.
But hey, is a nice, very nice looking ship, good cargo, good firepower, will perform great at any levels, hard and very hard.
Just do not take her out in "extreme" mode, to avoid pain and non-stop deaths. Remember, at "extreme" mode, you only deal 1/4 of damage but you take 400% more damage, in return. So, shields and firepower alone won't save you.
Power is 40, not 20. It is the max power allowed for a reactor. Maneuverability is 91 is FAR for questionable, with 12240 cargo, that is actually high. 9 maneuverability will not be noticeable at all in the game. With class C engines, this is the max speed available, even with Sam on the squad, which he is on my ship.
If you want fast, I would recommend my ShroudTerror build. That has a max regular speed on 280 and a max boosted speed of 1100. All with 100 mobility, the same weapon deployment as my Vengeance, and a Class C reactor to keep it going. 2 downsides if that build is no cargo (with the 3015's you need to keep the weight down) and due to my design choice you need to fly it in 3rd person (which I prefer).
@@TeamScorpioRI - "Power is 40, not 20" You misunderstood, mate :P
you have a DEFICIT of 20 Power ! That is, your ship needs 60 to get all systems at 100%, reason I told you have a 20 power problem !
"9 maneuverability will not be noticeable at all in the game. " - did you even bother to play in "extreme" mod ?? Obvious not ...
"With class C engines, this is the max speed available," - NOP, with the right skills you can go up to 170 with those C class engines. I see you still do not understand the game mechanics, and Sam will help with Power, not with speed. You confuse things, mate..
To get best power balance, you need to keep the consumption for all system (except grav drive) under 44 for the Class B ships and under 45 for class C - so after you get the skills you can power-up ALL to 100% and still have a charge left in reserve for grav drive ! Like that, you do not need to touch pips anymore, excerpt when you want to board.
Your build here is dramatically over that limit ( 60 !!!), and that will cripple you.
Like I said, take her out on "extreme" mode, and we talk after you meet a bunch of Ecliptic on Claymore II and III 🤣🤣🤣
PS - drop some cargo containers, until you get at 100 mobility, and change a hab ( a 2x2 one is ideal) with an EMPTY 2x2 hab ! You get NO PENALTY for the weight yet you can put some 100 containers inside x 150 each = 15 000 cargo with NO PENALTY. Learn to use the tools the last update gave you. You can have a class A ship now with 4 x A7 engines dancing circles around your build with 2x MORE cargo than your build.
@@mirandela777 Fair enough, then go build your ship and have fun in extreme mode. I never claimed that this ship was designed for any particular game mode, or is the "ultimate be all, end all" of ships. Just a good ship that I wanted to share how to build.
The music is very annoying
Its not my favorite genre, but its just background... and the last time I used in game music, I got hit with a copyright claim.