Edit* this video hits different since she actually got reworked and her entire kit got changed... - Enjoy the thumbnail and video before it gets destroyed. I also forgot to add that her voicelines, deflect and executions are increidbly unique. One of the best imo. Always gets me going.
yeah the deflect is the main reason I decide to hop on her from time to time, if it was more consistent I'd use her more, but not being able to go for another deflect until the bleed from the previous one is finished puts me off playing her
@@kurtgardner7152 She has two deflects tho. You can do the bleed first and then do the gb deflect just like Berserker. I use the GB deflect over the bleed one as they deal the same dmg and it doesn't make you go to neutral again.
the chargeable headbutt she had from GB was so cool. i feel like valkyrie is up there with most unique things removed from a hero. she had so much stuff removed
ah yes, the charged headbutt that sent enemies flying over the edge but took like 50% of your stam, truly unique, only saw one other person use it just like basically every other hero, they practically removed everything that made them unique, ex. orochi heavy deflect
@@Sagatoth yup theyve ruined the game. I hate the stamina changes its a mashing spam contest even worse than before. All the great oos punishes gone. Fuck ubisoft bro
@@Sagatoth their "reworks" have consisted of giving hyper armor and faster lights then taking away what made heroes unique like u said earlier. Just a bland ass cast this is what happens when u dont leave a game alone and try to balance 3 platforms w the same updates
@@anyfightinggamezfine69 yeah the problem with the way theyre updating and reworking characters is theyre going for whats optimal, not whats unique. its optimal to have unblockable 50/50s, its optimal to have undodgeables, its optimal to have hyper armor and fast lights. so now all the characters are lookin the same. the art has been getting taken out of the game over time and its really disappointing
I love valk, I think she is really fun, but man you gotta sweat in casual games when the opposite team is always looking like pirate, jj, raider and shinobi. That said I continue to enjoy her because of the uniqueness of her kit, while most of what she has is no longer uniquedue to powercreep and new heros just taking aspects of other characters and tuning them up to 11. I guess what I'm trying to say is I never feel like I should not be doung something with valk, she can clear minions, 1v1, 1vx, backcap a point, chase, etc. I enjoy being able to fill the role the team needs me to, but its nice to know I can do whatever I want with some success.
Yeah I played a lot of PK on PS4 got to rep 30 something and I never touched her when I switched to PC, and finally took the time to play her exclusively from rep 0 to 10 and whew boy. The amount of punishes that should be in your favor that you get punished for instead are insane.
ive given valk like 30 reps on console, and i honestly couldnt tell u why i play her. she is a mess in alot of ways compared to other heroes like gryphon and shaolin, but i think what keeps me coming back is her executions and the feeling of being a fully tatted dominatrix whenever i win a duel lol.
i miss her old full block, i could avoid alot of mixups like highlanders kick into caber because of it. I think thats what made her a better hero at a time, because her full block was so versatile.
The Thumbnails brother, they are somethin' else. Here's to wondering what y'alls artist would do with Warmommy for the inevitable "I played Warmonger so you don't have to."
Valkyrie is not just my main character, she's my absolute favorite. I stumbled upon her years ago while working my way through the training/tutorial missions. It was there, one mission had me play as her, and I don't know, something just clicked. I loved how complex and versatile she was, offering a myriad of options and moves derived from various classes. I'm a fan of complexity, and Valkyrie is the epitome of an intriguing hero to play. Now, I'm boasting about 40 reps with her. Even with such a high reputation, it's frustrating how I still grapple with fully leveraging her abilities, specifically the crushing counter and deflect. Surprisingly, I haven't yet managed to pull off a successful deflect outside of training mode. It's genuinely challenging, and it irks me that I'm not quite skilled enough to exploit her kit fully. For some reason, my instinct is to dodge attacks instead of deflecting them, unless I'm playing Orochi. With so many options at my disposal as Valkyrie, it sometimes becomes confusing to choose the right course of action. When in the heat of battle, my thought process often revolves around "should I block, parry, or attempt (and likely fail) the crushing counter?" But despite the struggle, my affinity for Valkyrie remains undeterred.
The reason I love to play Valk is because she always has an answer for something. I never feel stuck in any fight since Valk’s kit has so many options. She has what I call an “aggressive defense” which agrees with her disabler tag. The only issue is the fact that you have to do a lot of work to deal with any of those issues. I use 3/4ths of my stamina in order to mix up any of the modern characters and it’s only for 13 damage. While her animations are awesome and I love the way her chains flow, it’s very unsatisfying to do all of that work only to do chip damage. I think reducing her stamina usage and adding either unblockable or undodgeable heavy chains would do wonders for Valk. Also fixing the tracking on a lot of her moves is a must since I’m tired of my side heavy going through an enemy that dodges it.
I used to play Valk back in the first year or so of the game, when she was probably A-tier. I quit until recently where I picked her up again. She's fun, but just missing everything that other characters seem to have (hyperarmor, unblockable, undodgeable) I actually LOVE the fact that her sweep affects teammates. Not because I'm an asshole, but because other people are assholes *cough*hyperarmorwiderangeheavyspammers*cough* When I get that guy that just can't seem to fight anything without making sure he also hits you over and over again, it's nice to give em a good sweep from behind to let the enemy get a good heavy in on them.
I rewatched every For Honor trailer and man I'm literally crying. Bring me back old times when me and friends were discussing new Centurion, Highlander or Marching Fire heroes, choosing who's more OP or much cooler and badass. When I waited every Thursday to see if it's new executions coming
@@englishdicktionary1611 Undodgeable heavy finisher (not neutral heavies or chain heavies) to have her keep up with pirate, hito, conq'? Yes it is. That wil make her at least A tier.
@@englishdicktionary1611 Its ok if you like a challenge but its a fact that Valk is weak and needs a buff just to keep up. And i don't want hyperarmour or unblockables,there's too much of that already, so that leaves undodgeables.
Good video it brought me so much joy hearing the ender lilies sound track one of my favorite 2d souls like. I also thank you for giving light to how Valkyrie is today my favorite character other than shaman. Much love man keep up the good work!
I loved valk on release. Valk always feels fun even if it is almost impossible to play as. She definitely not good rn but when i played i did still outplay a few times. The problem today is they swapped from turtle meta to CCU but with every hero feeling the same, and seeing the same attack over and over again fight after fight.
Btw, which patch exactly changed it from the turtle meta? I remember the patch that took away zone attack parries, but in my memory you could still survive a gank at this point of time.
@@schmoorfderschmied1763 thats what they wanted with the CCU. Less turtle/lights, and better offense that was the focus of CCU. Didn't really change much but it lost most of the turtle (except full guard) with the attack speed being made the same and having later parry flash. Where did the gank come from? Im talking about any fight because you just react to everything in pre CCU.
@@schmoorfderschmied1763 i would say, they did a lot. Nowadays, you only survive ganks because they increased the revenge meter that gets fed. Also a lot of noobs out there, who still dont know how to gank properly and just feed revenge, It blurred the lines a lot between good and bad players, feels much more random now,
I main Valkyrie and I love it, when I started playing for honor, I gravitated towards Valk because I wasn't very good with block timing, but with her I could kinda play it like dark souls, dodging through attacks while I got a hang of the game. Then, when I started learning block timing and mixups, I kept playing her because I thought it was funny going against heavily armored crusaders, fat dudes with big "leave thine premises" sticks, literal phase shifting samurai, Guns, and just being like "Haha poke"
Valk might be low tier, but she's solid in the low tier. A good selection of mediocre tools for different situations. She ain't my main, but she's second and she just feels oddly enjoyable.
Valk main here. It's very easy to assume valk will go for heavy cancel into bash ot heavy into sweep after a bash or second heavy but her real good stuff is with her lights attacks. She is like peacekeeper where you want to dodge into attacks and counter with light but you might be surprised how good of a light spammer valk is. Also heavy cancel into back dash shield is really good at catching people on parrying if they don't parry and go for a dodge or anything else simply cancel out of shield. You really just need to get used to pressing circle or B with her a lot. For me though her main draw is just how much control she has over an opponent. She can dash in any direction for parries and back dash shield for heavys. she can cancel heavy into bash or back dash shield or into a dash parry and her true control comes from her bashes and light finishers. You can move the opponent to anywhere on the map with her as long as you know how to get in her light finishers from the left and right. Plus the stun that if gives opponents makes them not see what direction you're attacking from, heavy attacks are obvious to see what direction but lights are all stabs so are hard to tell so you can light spam pretty easy after that first light finisher Here's my secret though. You can cancel out of back dash shield after you started to charge a bit which catches dodges easily and then you can dodge parry any of those attacks and start your combo She is just so much fun. She isn't my main main, aramusha is but I just played her in duel once and found her kit easy to understand for me and so she became my character pick whenever I felt like I really needed to win She translates well into other modes with her good feats but if you understand her kit she can be as good as any other. She is a hard character for a reason because she does have a huge kit but if you play with her actively it becomes muscle memory like any character. I still do miss that if your back dash shield charge blocked an attack while charging it would knock them to the ground Edit: Forgot to mention you can forward dodge guard break so if you do back dash shield charge cancel you can forward dodge into guard break as another mix up She can just do so much and if you learn everything she does it will be really hard for any opponent to read what you are going to do.
Yeah her full block is pretty good when you cancel it. It gives her a lot more options instead of it just being a reactionary move. Heavy cancel to full block cancel is also a pretty sweet move but obviously eats stamina.
I've been watching your channel for just about 2 years now, and this I played x character series your doing is probably some of my favorite content you've put out. I also have a request, you mind doing zerker next? I lied it's been closer to 3 years. I started watching you at the same time I started play For Honor way back in December 2019
I played for honor when it first came out and valkyrie was my MAIN. Learned her in and out and eventually dropped the game around her rework. Picked it back up last year and she just doesn’t feel like she used to. It feels so bad to play against these new heroes who just have EVERYTHING given to them. Also thumbnail 😍
0:44 Historical it is the best weapon. But spear and shield has got to be the worst possible combination. It’s only good if you have amazing coordination. It cannot fight. All it can do is add pressure. The way the Spartans gained ground is to find an opening with an enemy they aren’t currently engaging sneaking a clean thrust in. Also the Spartans entire training is making sure this formation doesn’t break. They do have swords. And those who aren’t the frontline would use this to get rid of anyone who break into formation. Two handed spear though is great for formations who aren’t super soldiers like the Spartans.
Valk was my main from the beginning. She taught me how great light feints long before I feinted heavies or anything else. Watching her move set be altered, Stam burn faster and brighter than a joint on 420, her GB have zero range, and numerous other unforgivable acts made by the devs. I'd still play her from time to time; but as you said, I always remember her, and many other heros, for what she was. Fly high, Valk. Fly high.
7:00 I completely forgot about this area in the single player, it's a shame they can't or won't work this into a breach or dom map because it would be a cool place to fight in
I’m so glad you did this I’ve just started my valk and she’s already 8 reps strong. Though I’m surprised you didn’t mention her finishing side heavies have the ability to track current meta characters dodge attacks if time properly, and her side light finishers are bashes that wallsplat and ledge
I think she needs the possibility to use the back + X, like the back + RT of Orochi, and a fix on the guard break, she slaps the air most of the time. For now, is a balanced hero, I hope she doesn't become easy for the kids, like the other heroes.
I stopped playing for honor a long time ago but I do remember Valk was one of my favorites before her rework there was a combo that could 100 to 0 anyone in 1v1 and remember her charged headbutt? Man those were the days
I have been wanting to play some of the old roster. I struggle a lot with some of the heros as I am not that great at the game. Valk was one of the ones I wanted to try as she has a deflect and superior light, but the lack of a opener really makes it hard for me to do well with her.
One change I think they should do for valk regarding her combo ender side lights is make them undodgeable and give them the ability to break hyper armor and if the person your attacking is out of stamina or you have revenge it should unbalance them
I stand with you for the original, unbalancing-your-opponent blockade bash. That shit was so fun to land. Pls Goobersoft bring back, it wouldn't even be OP
As a valk main, I play her because I enjoy the weapon a lot, she has ok offensive pressure and the full block can be used in a mixup or to start duels against those you know are gonna forward heavy you. Also her executions are one of the best if not the best.
When I first started playing for honor I was drawn to valk and I honestly couldn't tell you why, I've bought almost all of her executions and I just absolutely love her but it's just so hard to play her recently because of all the changes.
I think more options on full block would be cool. Maybe a soft feint chain heavy to full block like shaman; and a sweep from full block. Make her stab a light input, and then she can go into chain heavy thats not guaranteed, but allows her to properly target swap.
I feel like undodgeable side light finishers and top heavy finishers, along with better stamina and getting back her shield tackle knockdown, would be simple changes that bring Valkyrie CLOSER to the current meta without being overbearing additions.
With her you can cancel your "deflect" (superior defense dash) into GB, like Kensei, but for every side. This is ver good to get executions or ledge your enemies. I didn't saw this detail in the video and it's something that took me a while to know.
@Soldsol I know this is a witcher 3 track but I've liked a couple of the songs you've played in your videos. Would you consider adding the tracks in the description?
I have been a Valkyrie main for a long time and have been thinking of ideas for a rework and here is what I came to I haven’t thought to hard into some of the ideas but I wanted to make her full block more viable in duels and give her a bunch of mixups and things that force the opponents to make reads where if they do make the read she doesn’t have many safety features and the opponent is rewarded. Sweep reduced to 633 ms First light is enhanced Last heavy is unblockable Bulwark is faster and changed to back guard and simply ends when you stop holding back guard like other stances and you do not travel backwards Bulwark can be used during a heavy as a soft feint Bulwark charge by pressing Guardbreak plus forward dash and you can dodge while in bulwark Bulwark charge has superior block Drain stamina only on hit against bulwark hits against bulwark chain into sweep on x press or undodgeable heavy for 18 damage Heavy bash soft feint has hyper armor Wall splat gives a light pin that applies bleed 13 damage initially 9 damage bleed Sweep doesn’t trip allies
@@SolidSol69 dang, Skyward Sword is the only Zelda game I haven't played. Guess I'm looking up the OST now, 'cause Zelda songs never fail to slap. Thank you!
How about: neutral bash, zone undodgable on both hits, ability to charge heavies to be unblockable at conq charge timing. Also give back her full guard onto top tight.
Use to love my valk back in the day and used to use her exclusively. Even got her to rep 70 over 2 years ago. Sadly there’s to much wrong with her I had to stop using her. Hopefully we get a good rework one day
I'm a nobu/valk main because I enjoy pain. Jokes aside it's probably because her deflect is the best in the game period, and she's like the only viking that has good fashion. I dread the day they rework her because they'll just make her heavies undodgable and give her dodge recoveries. All she really needs is less stanina usage (honestly I've found this is my biggest enemy), enhanced light dodges, increased speed and range for her back dodge bash and maybe hyper armor heavy finishers. And fix the gb bug. I'm fine with sweeping teammates and I think shaolin's should as well, it prevents mindless ganking and for a coordinated team wouldn't be an issue anyways.
I would love to see the perfect combination of old an new Valkyrie with and addition of an unblockable and maybe an undodgeable light finisher so that the mixup is better forcing the opponent to make a read
With the understanding that she is meant to be a more evasive and fast paced shield character, all the other shield based characters get multiple options off of a bash, or ways to get unblockable hits that can be cancelled. It feels boring at times to play valk since my best (and at times only) option is to use a light attack off of my shield bash cancel. I agree that the changes to the step back should not have been so severe. In multiplayer formats like dominion, i find it hard to think of good options while fighting 2 or more people. I can block and parry all day but she has no good ways except dodging to get damage while dealing with multiple opponents. This mixed with many other characters just being a better version of her trick makes her very lackluster IMO.
20 reps on her, the first 10 were before the rework. Old valk was hard to master, but was a defensive beast. Reworked valk was viable for a little bit but really fell off over time. I think stamina fixes and undodgable finishers would be amazing. Old valk dodge from full-block was my favorite thing about her. If that were to return I would 100% get her to rep 70.
As a valk main, these are the changes i feel like would make her fun + keep identity + viable: VALK CHANGES - Faster all guard bash - Able to dodge recover after a sweep - Light opener is always enhanced (whether it be dodge forward/side light or just regular light) - less stam consumption across the board, very little stam drain when just blocking in full guard. - Frame advantage after landed sweep heavy - Able to dodge out of full guard - Can dodge recover only on her second attack in chain recovery (mixup potential) and dodge cancel her heavies (to actually be able to GB the opponent) - NEW MOVE: Spartans’ riposte. Pressing heavy attack while in all guard gives a 25 dmg 800 ms feintable unbloockable in a stabbing motion. If it lands, it skewers and the player can press the GB button to direct an unblockable slash attack either left or right, in which valk sweeps her spear in the respective direction doing 20 dmg to anyone hit, while pushing the skewered enemy in the process (no wallsplat), and the sweep drains extra stamina on top of the initial stab. If just the stab is done and not the slash, then valk gets frame advantage over the opponent but if it is done then she doesn’t.
Honestly running all active feats with the cooldown perk with valk is way too much fun especially on breach when you can merk the pikemen super easy. You can get feat 4 by the time you get through the first gate with fast cooldowns it’s SOO gross and fun. Now to mention fast cool down javelin she’s nasty in breach. I feel like you’re also missing how strong her bash is for ganking. I shit on s teirs frequently since they need to react to your heavy. In dom she’s weak but in breach you need try out the build with rapid refresh all active feats killing a bunch of pikemen. Not to mention all the free crushing counters when they spam dodge attacks. Full block is dog shit tho I will 100% agree with that. I spam jug and rush for rotations to help friends in ganks.
I remember a year or two ago you were complaining about your view count now you get more views than any other for honor CZcamsr! Trust God and keep your head down always! Even when the roads are tough there’s always a sunny day on the other side of that storm
I have Valk rep 52 on XBOX. I loved her with all my heart. She was my main since late 2017. She just feels awful but I’m VERY excited for the new rework
Edit* this video hits different since she actually got reworked and her entire kit got changed... - Enjoy the thumbnail and video before it gets destroyed. I also forgot to add that her voicelines, deflect and executions are increidbly unique. One of the best imo. Always gets me going.
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yeah the deflect is the main reason I decide to hop on her from time to time, if it was more consistent I'd use her more, but not being able to go for another deflect until the bleed from the previous one is finished puts me off playing her
@@kurtgardner7152 She has two deflects tho. You can do the bleed first and then do the gb deflect just like Berserker. I use the GB deflect over the bleed one as they deal the same dmg and it doesn't make you go to neutral again.
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Whatchu mean by that my boy 🤨
Gotta watch this fast before it gets deleted
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Why did you think it'll get deleted lol
@@wealthybone2990 thumbnail im assuming
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Top tier thumbnail as always, I also agree with the rework ideas
the chargeable headbutt she had from GB was so cool. i feel like valkyrie is up there with most unique things removed from a hero. she had so much stuff removed
ah yes, the charged headbutt that sent enemies flying over the edge but took like 50% of your stam, truly unique, only saw one other person use it
just like basically every other hero, they practically removed everything that made them unique, ex. orochi heavy deflect
@@Sagatoth yup theyve ruined the game. I hate the stamina changes its a mashing spam contest even worse than before. All the great oos punishes gone. Fuck ubisoft bro
@@anyfightinggamezfine69 very much so agreed
@@Sagatoth their "reworks" have consisted of giving hyper armor and faster lights then taking away what made heroes unique like u said earlier. Just a bland ass cast this is what happens when u dont leave a game alone and try to balance 3 platforms w the same updates
@@anyfightinggamezfine69 yeah the problem with the way theyre updating and reworking characters is theyre going for whats optimal, not whats unique. its optimal to have unblockable 50/50s, its optimal to have undodgeables, its optimal to have hyper armor and fast lights. so now all the characters are lookin the same. the art has been getting taken out of the game over time and its really disappointing
Give valk a thigh squeeze execution
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You ain’t gonna hear me complaining
Id lose on purpose
oh no ubi please don't make an execution where valk steps on me
@@pink-flower. oh please don't make her hug me to death🔥
I love valk, I think she is really fun, but man you gotta sweat in casual games when the opposite team is always looking like pirate, jj, raider and shinobi. That said I continue to enjoy her because of the uniqueness of her kit, while most of what she has is no longer uniquedue to powercreep and new heros just taking aspects of other characters and tuning them up to 11. I guess what I'm trying to say is I never feel like I should not be doung something with valk, she can clear minions, 1v1, 1vx, backcap a point, chase, etc. I enjoy being able to fill the role the team needs me to, but its nice to know I can do whatever I want with some success.
Yeah I played a lot of PK on PS4 got to rep 30 something and I never touched her when I switched to PC, and finally took the time to play her exclusively from rep 0 to 10 and whew boy. The amount of punishes that should be in your favor that you get punished for instead are insane.
Conq is a literal hard counter it feels like tbh
@@ianperry8557 Nah, it's easy to kill him with Valkyrie. If you take the right time, he can't touch you.
As a shinobi main no I got absolutely fucked by Vlaks
@@wyrnn4290 nah Conq is op ever since he got his faints but eh fair enough
This videos thumbnail makes me wanna main Valk now lol
ive given valk like 30 reps on console, and i honestly couldnt tell u why i play her. she is a mess in alot of ways compared to other heroes like gryphon and shaolin, but i think what keeps me coming back is her executions and the feeling of being a fully tatted dominatrix whenever i win a duel lol.
i miss her old full block, i could avoid alot of mixups like highlanders kick into caber because of it. I think thats what made her a better hero at a time, because her full block was so versatile.
@@jaydenpereira8917 sometimes I kinda miss the first four/five seasons of this game, I loved centurion, those were the days of glory
I just love her playstyle and executions.
that execution at 15:27 made me feel a certain type of way
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The Thumbnails brother, they are somethin' else.
Here's to wondering what y'alls artist would do with Warmommy for the inevitable "I played Warmonger so you don't have to."
😩😩😩please parry and vicious impale me with your flamberge warmommy😩😩😩
Valkyrie is not just my main character, she's my absolute favorite. I stumbled upon her years ago while working my way through the training/tutorial missions. It was there, one mission had me play as her, and I don't know, something just clicked. I loved how complex and versatile she was, offering a myriad of options and moves derived from various classes. I'm a fan of complexity, and Valkyrie is the epitome of an intriguing hero to play. Now, I'm boasting about 40 reps with her.
Even with such a high reputation, it's frustrating how I still grapple with fully leveraging her abilities, specifically the crushing counter and deflect. Surprisingly, I haven't yet managed to pull off a successful deflect outside of training mode. It's genuinely challenging, and it irks me that I'm not quite skilled enough to exploit her kit fully. For some reason, my instinct is to dodge attacks instead of deflecting them, unless I'm playing Orochi. With so many options at my disposal as Valkyrie, it sometimes becomes confusing to choose the right course of action. When in the heat of battle, my thought process often revolves around "should I block, parry, or attempt (and likely fail) the crushing counter?" But despite the struggle, my affinity for Valkyrie remains undeterred.
The only tragedy is that I'm not that watermelon.
That's a warrior's death.
The reason I love to play Valk is because she always has an answer for something. I never feel stuck in any fight since Valk’s kit has so many options. She has what I call an “aggressive defense” which agrees with her disabler tag. The only issue is the fact that you have to do a lot of work to deal with any of those issues. I use 3/4ths of my stamina in order to mix up any of the modern characters and it’s only for 13 damage. While her animations are awesome and I love the way her chains flow, it’s very unsatisfying to do all of that work only to do chip damage. I think reducing her stamina usage and adding either unblockable or undodgeable heavy chains would do wonders for Valk. Also fixing the tracking on a lot of her moves is a must since I’m tired of my side heavy going through an enemy that dodges it.
I used to play Valk back in the first year or so of the game, when she was probably A-tier. I quit until recently where I picked her up again.
She's fun, but just missing everything that other characters seem to have (hyperarmor, unblockable, undodgeable)
I actually LOVE the fact that her sweep affects teammates. Not because I'm an asshole, but because other people are assholes *cough*hyperarmorwiderangeheavyspammers*cough*
When I get that guy that just can't seem to fight anything without making sure he also hits you over and over again, it's nice to give em a good sweep from behind to let the enemy get a good heavy in on them.
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Yeah and that makes the game boring and un-unique, the new meta is extremely boring and characters lack personality.
I rewatched every For Honor trailer and man I'm literally crying. Bring me back old times when me and friends were discussing new Centurion, Highlander or Marching Fire heroes, choosing who's more OP or much cooler and badass. When I waited every Thursday to see if it's new executions coming
If the interns don't fix her sweep, then they should at least give her enhanced lights to give her chain pressure without adding orange or blue
Enhanced chain lights, undodgeable heavy finisher and increased gb range. That's it. No orange needed.
@@RafaelSantos-pi8py undodgable heavy isn't even necessary either.
@@englishdicktionary1611 Undodgeable heavy finisher (not neutral heavies or chain heavies) to have her keep up with pirate, hito, conq'? Yes it is. That wil make her at least A tier.
@@RafaelSantos-pi8py i don't find it necessary in my opinion, i'd rather keep her atleast a little skilled.
@@englishdicktionary1611 Its ok if you like a challenge but its a fact that Valk is weak and needs a buff just to keep up. And i don't want hyperarmour or unblockables,there's too much of that already, so that leaves undodgeables.
Good video it brought me so much joy hearing the ender lilies sound track one of my favorite 2d souls like. I also thank you for giving light to how Valkyrie is today my favorite character other than shaman. Much love man keep up the good work!
Execution at 15:56 was beautiful 🫠
I loved valk on release. Valk always feels fun even if it is almost impossible to play as. She definitely not good rn but when i played i did still outplay a few times.
The problem today is they swapped from turtle meta to CCU but with every hero feeling the same, and seeing the same attack over and over again fight after fight.
Btw, which patch exactly changed it from the turtle meta?
I remember the patch that took away zone attack parries, but in my memory you could still survive a gank at this point of time.
@@schmoorfderschmied1763 thats what they wanted with the CCU. Less turtle/lights, and better offense that was the focus of CCU. Didn't really change much but it lost most of the turtle (except full guard) with the attack speed being made the same and having later parry flash.
Where did the gank come from? Im talking about any fight because you just react to everything in pre CCU.
@@schmoorfderschmied1763 i would say, they did a lot. Nowadays, you only survive ganks because they increased the revenge meter that gets fed. Also a lot of noobs out there, who still dont know how to gank properly and just feed revenge, It blurred the lines a lot between good and bad players, feels much more random now,
I main Valkyrie and I love it, when I started playing for honor, I gravitated towards Valk because I wasn't very good with block timing, but with her I could kinda play it like dark souls, dodging through attacks while I got a hang of the game. Then, when I started learning block timing and mixups, I kept playing her because I thought it was funny going against heavily armored crusaders, fat dudes with big "leave thine premises" sticks, literal phase shifting samurai, Guns, and just being like "Haha poke"
Honey wake up, the box posted
Valk might be low tier, but she's solid in the low tier. A good selection of mediocre tools for different situations. She ain't my main, but she's second and she just feels oddly enjoyable.
Valk main here. It's very easy to assume valk will go for heavy cancel into bash ot heavy into sweep after a bash or second heavy but her real good stuff is with her lights attacks. She is like peacekeeper where you want to dodge into attacks and counter with light but you might be surprised how good of a light spammer valk is. Also heavy cancel into back dash shield is really good at catching people on parrying if they don't parry and go for a dodge or anything else simply cancel out of shield. You really just need to get used to pressing circle or B with her a lot.
For me though her main draw is just how much control she has over an opponent. She can dash in any direction for parries and back dash shield for heavys. she can cancel heavy into bash or back dash shield or into a dash parry and her true control comes from her bashes and light finishers. You can move the opponent to anywhere on the map with her as long as you know how to get in her light finishers from the left and right. Plus the stun that if gives opponents makes them not see what direction you're attacking from, heavy attacks are obvious to see what direction but lights are all stabs so are hard to tell so you can light spam pretty easy after that first light finisher
Here's my secret though. You can cancel out of back dash shield after you started to charge a bit which catches dodges easily and then you can dodge parry any of those attacks and start your combo
She is just so much fun. She isn't my main main, aramusha is but I just played her in duel once and found her kit easy to understand for me and so she became my character pick whenever I felt like I really needed to win
She translates well into other modes with her good feats but if you understand her kit she can be as good as any other.
She is a hard character for a reason because she does have a huge kit but if you play with her actively it becomes muscle memory like any character. I still do miss that if your back dash shield charge blocked an attack while charging it would knock them to the ground
Edit: Forgot to mention you can forward dodge guard break so if you do back dash shield charge cancel you can forward dodge into guard break as another mix up
She can just do so much and if you learn everything she does it will be really hard for any opponent to read what you are going to do.
I'd love more options in her fullblock before a hit and on hit. Didnt even think about that.
Yeah her full block is pretty good when you cancel it. It gives her a lot more options instead of it just being a reactionary move. Heavy cancel to full block cancel is also a pretty sweet move but obviously eats stamina.
I've been watching your channel for just about 2 years now, and this I played x character series your doing is probably some of my favorite content you've put out. I also have a request, you mind doing zerker next?
I lied it's been closer to 3 years. I started watching you at the same time I started play For Honor way back in December 2019
box I felt that dig into Nuxia that hurt
I played for honor when it first came out and valkyrie was my MAIN. Learned her in and out and eventually dropped the game around her rework. Picked it back up last year and she just doesn’t feel like she used to. It feels so bad to play against these new heroes who just have EVERYTHING given to them. Also thumbnail 😍
She was my first main too till rep 1, I use to grind breach mode vs ai
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Historical it is the best weapon. But spear and shield has got to be the worst possible combination. It’s only good if you have amazing coordination. It cannot fight. All it can do is add pressure. The way the Spartans gained ground is to find an opening with an enemy they aren’t currently engaging sneaking a clean thrust in.
Also the Spartans entire training is making sure this formation doesn’t break. They do have swords. And those who aren’t the frontline would use this to get rid of anyone who break into formation.
Two handed spear though is great for formations who aren’t super soldiers like the Spartans.
Valk was my main from the beginning. She taught me how great light feints long before I feinted heavies or anything else. Watching her move set be altered, Stam burn faster and brighter than a joint on 420, her GB have zero range, and numerous other unforgivable acts made by the devs.
I'd still play her from time to time; but as you said, I always remember her, and many other heros, for what she was. Fly high, Valk. Fly high.
Solid sol’s thumbnails making me solid
That ender lilies ost gave me goosebumps and tears, I noticed it while zoning out out of sadness for how weak Valkyrie feels.
7:00 I completely forgot about this area in the single player, it's a shame they can't or won't work this into a breach or dom map because it would be a cool place to fight in
I’m so glad you did this I’ve just started my valk and she’s already 8 reps strong. Though I’m surprised you didn’t mention her finishing side heavies have the ability to track current meta characters dodge attacks if time properly, and her side light finishers are bashes that wallsplat and ledge
I think she needs the possibility to use the back + X, like the back + RT of Orochi, and a fix on the guard break, she slaps the air most of the time.
For now, is a balanced hero, I hope she doesn't become easy for the kids, like the other heroes.
This gotta be the sauciest thumbnail I've ever seen. 🥵
I’m a Valk main, but I never played before CCU so I only know her with her kit reworked. I became a valk main because of her versatility.
I stopped playing for honor a long time ago but I do remember Valk was one of my favorites before her rework there was a combo that could 100 to 0 anyone in 1v1 and remember her charged headbutt? Man those were the days
I have been wanting to play some of the old roster. I struggle a lot with some of the heros as I am not that great at the game. Valk was one of the ones I wanted to try as she has a deflect and superior light, but the lack of a opener really makes it hard for me to do well with her.
Crushing counter* not superior lights
I’m devastated there is no fashion section for Valk like you did for the Shaman video. :(
One change I think they should do for valk regarding her combo ender side lights is make them undodgeable and give them the ability to break hyper armor and if the person your attacking is out of stamina or you have revenge it should unbalance them
17:20 “Clair de Lune” - A man of culture I see
I stand with you for the original, unbalancing-your-opponent blockade bash. That shit was so fun to land. Pls Goobersoft bring back, it wouldn't even be OP
I see the entire player base is here.
I wonder where I can find your thumbnails they are perfect
As a valk main, I play her because I enjoy the weapon a lot, she has ok offensive pressure and the full block can be used in a mixup or to start duels against those you know are gonna forward heavy you. Also her executions are one of the best if not the best.
When I first started playing for honor I was drawn to valk and I honestly couldn't tell you why, I've bought almost all of her executions and I just absolutely love her but it's just so hard to play her recently because of all the changes.
I think more options on full block would be cool. Maybe a soft feint chain heavy to full block like shaman; and a sweep from full block. Make her stab a light input, and then she can go into chain heavy thats not guaranteed, but allows her to properly target swap.
most underrated character in the game lmao
As a valk main, plz no forward bash. Just make her opener lights enhanced (dodge light or just regular) So much better
Buff full guard let me dodge out of it again >:)
@@ianperry8557 exactly 🦍
I feel like undodgeable side light finishers and top heavy finishers, along with better stamina and getting back her shield tackle knockdown, would be simple changes that bring Valkyrie CLOSER to the current meta without being overbearing additions.
I agree with you about full shield block action it was master piece
With her you can cancel your "deflect" (superior defense dash) into GB, like Kensei, but for every side. This is ver good to get executions or ledge your enemies. I didn't saw this detail in the video and it's something that took me a while to know.
I guess sol make a '' so you don't have to '' Video to every hero
:( 8:00 timestamp i curled up and bawled at seeing that old footage. 22 reps on valk shes still my main, barely play her
i miss how smooth the zone -> bash animation was. she fucking SPUN.
Yes, I'm so happy bout this
I miss eternal cookie. And fear of lemon. Bring back the valk mains
As always, God Teir thumbnails 🤌
A man of culture 🤣
Will have to check this thumbnail out for... research later
@Soldsol I know this is a witcher 3 track but I've liked a couple of the songs you've played in your videos. Would you consider adding the tracks in the description?
God I Wish That Were Me
The thumbnails have resurrected stronger than ever before
Me watching this at 3Am having never played For Honor: hmmm interesting
that thumb nail will never get out of my head, thanks
I have been a Valkyrie main for a long time and have been thinking of ideas for a rework and here is what I came to I haven’t thought to hard into some of the ideas but I wanted to make her full block more viable in duels and give her a bunch of mixups and things that force the opponents to make reads where if they do make the read she doesn’t have many safety features and the opponent is rewarded.
Sweep reduced to 633 ms
First light is enhanced
Last heavy is unblockable
Bulwark is faster and changed to back guard and simply ends when you stop holding back guard like other stances and you do not travel backwards
Bulwark can be used during a heavy as a soft feint
Bulwark charge by pressing Guardbreak plus forward dash and you can dodge while in bulwark
Bulwark charge has superior block
Drain stamina only on hit against bulwark
hits against bulwark chain into sweep on x press or undodgeable heavy for 18 damage
Heavy bash soft feint has hyper armor
Wall splat gives a light pin that applies bleed 13 damage initially 9 damage bleed
Sweep doesn’t trip allies
Bro the thumbnail 😭💀
Nice video ! Could you do a "I played Tiandi so you don't have to" plz
Hey Sol, what's the background music you used here? It's very nice.
There's quite a bit of songs here XD which one. The first one is witcher ard of skellige village
@@SolidSol69 haha, fair. Specifically, the music around 8:40. The eastern-styled (?) flute music.
@@keltsune This is zelda follow fi! hope it helped.
@@SolidSol69 dang, Skyward Sword is the only Zelda game I haven't played. Guess I'm looking up the OST now, 'cause Zelda songs never fail to slap. Thank you!
@@keltsune mhmm enjoy! See you in the next one hopefully >:D
yo sol where do u get that for honor sauce from im curious
I was with 6 year old cousin when this came up in my feed
That Gwent soundtrack in the background
The thumbnails says everything about the question
How about: neutral bash, zone undodgable on both hits, ability to charge heavies to be unblockable at conq charge timing. Also give back her full guard onto top tight.
Personally being a valkyrie main is pain, but I love it
If you want to get into notdic mithology thor's movies are like pirate's chamber, with no corelation with anything
Use to love my valk back in the day and used to use her exclusively. Even got her to rep 70 over 2 years ago. Sadly there’s to much wrong with her I had to stop using her. Hopefully we get a good rework one day
It's hell to use her against tiandis especially tiandi users that spams his dance, kick, and ground smash
I'm a nobu/valk main because I enjoy pain. Jokes aside it's probably because her deflect is the best in the game period, and she's like the only viking that has good fashion. I dread the day they rework her because they'll just make her heavies undodgable and give her dodge recoveries. All she really needs is less stanina usage (honestly I've found this is my biggest enemy), enhanced light dodges, increased speed and range for her back dodge bash and maybe hyper armor heavy finishers. And fix the gb bug. I'm fine with sweeping teammates and I think shaolin's should as well, it prevents mindless ganking and for a coordinated team wouldn't be an issue anyways.
Never in my life did I ever think I wanted to be a piece of fruit until I saw the thumbnail
I would love to see the perfect combination of old an new Valkyrie with and addition of an unblockable and maybe an undodgeable light finisher so that the mixup is better forcing the opponent to make a read
Clicked on the video before I could even read the title (for some reasons)
The thing that really ruined Valkyrie was the change to the "No touching" execution
“Hippity hoppity heppity hoo, the execution was misogynstic and so are you”
-Twitter
With the understanding that she is meant to be a more evasive and fast paced shield character, all the other shield based characters get multiple options off of a bash, or ways to get unblockable hits that can be cancelled. It feels boring at times to play valk since my best (and at times only) option is to use a light attack off of my shield bash cancel. I agree that the changes to the step back should not have been so severe. In multiplayer formats like dominion, i find it hard to think of good options while fighting 2 or more people. I can block and parry all day but she has no good ways except dodging to get damage while dealing with multiple opponents. This mixed with many other characters just being a better version of her trick makes her very lackluster IMO.
You to use her right heavy for gb fients, i dont know in ubifuck that is but the left side has trexs
Which was the name of the song at the end +MAN THAT VALKYRIE SEEMS LIKE A TOTAL BEAUTY 🙏🙏🙏
The thumbnail made me click instantly
1:09 as a valkyrie main I can confirm this happends the whole time
I play her bc she is great for 2vs1 and also because the light spam + unblockable
Ive gone through the hell of pre rework shaolin and i still have valk only on level 6
I love the witcher music, is it from gwent? If i'm not wrong.
Wish we had the option to hold long arms as pikes so we can pressure the other players more when hanging or stop them from dodge attacks
please add more gymnopedie #1 i love hearing it
20 reps on her, the first 10 were before the rework. Old valk was hard to master, but was a defensive beast. Reworked valk was viable for a little bit but really fell off over time. I think stamina fixes and undodgable finishers would be amazing. Old valk dodge from full-block was my favorite thing about her. If that were to return I would 100% get her to rep 70.
As someone who mains valk on the side. Yes it the thighs
As a valk main, these are the changes i feel like would make her fun + keep identity + viable:
VALK CHANGES
- Faster all guard bash
- Able to dodge recover after a sweep
- Light opener is always enhanced (whether it be dodge forward/side light or just regular light)
- less stam consumption across the board, very little stam drain when just blocking in full guard.
- Frame advantage after landed sweep heavy
- Able to dodge out of full guard
- Can dodge recover only on her second attack in chain recovery (mixup potential) and dodge cancel her heavies (to actually be able to GB the opponent)
- NEW MOVE: Spartans’ riposte. Pressing heavy attack while in all guard gives a 25 dmg 800 ms feintable unbloockable in a stabbing motion. If it lands, it skewers and the player can press the GB button to direct an unblockable slash attack either left or right, in which valk sweeps her spear in the respective direction doing 20 dmg to anyone hit, while pushing the skewered enemy in the process (no wallsplat), and the sweep drains extra stamina on top of the initial stab. If just the stab is done and not the slash, then valk gets frame advantage over the opponent but if it is done then she doesn’t.
Damn man, i just clicked on this again cause the thumbnail is so fucking good
I like Valkyrie because deflecting without dealing with reflex guard on keyboard and mouse (plus crushing counters) gives me special dopamine hits.
Honestly running all active feats with the cooldown perk with valk is way too much fun especially on breach when you can merk the pikemen super easy. You can get feat 4 by the time you get through the first gate with fast cooldowns it’s SOO gross and fun. Now to mention fast cool down javelin she’s nasty in breach. I feel like you’re also missing how strong her bash is for ganking. I shit on s teirs frequently since they need to react to your heavy. In dom she’s weak but in breach you need try out the build with rapid refresh all active feats killing a bunch of pikemen. Not to mention all the free crushing counters when they spam dodge attacks. Full block is dog shit tho I will 100% agree with that. I spam jug and rush for rotations to help friends in ganks.
active refresh perk dont work on pikemen doe?
God tier thumbnail, hopefully the hero skin will be similar
SolidSol music playlist reveal when
I remember a year or two ago you were complaining about your view count now you get more views than any other for honor CZcamsr! Trust God and keep your head down always! Even when the roads are tough there’s always a sunny day on the other side of that storm
I have Valk rep 52 on XBOX. I loved her with all my heart. She was my main since late 2017. She just feels awful but I’m VERY excited for the new rework