THE CATCHER IN THE RYE IS TRASH AND HERE'S WHY
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- čas přidán 20. 06. 2021
- "I don't buy them a copy of Catcher in the Rye and then lecture them with some 7th grade interpretation about Holden Caulfield is some profound intellectual. HE WASN'T, HE WAS A SPOILED BRAT"
-Glenn Quagmire
My Nama Jeff. 7. - Hry
Thank you. The only reason this book was banned was because of the swear words and the mention of prostitution and the suggestion of homosexuality.
I was forced to read this book 3 years ago and wrote a report, hated it with my life and got a terrible grade for my hate for it. I still hate it now that I tried to read it again.
i love this video and i love the book. i think most people misunderstand the book: holden is cringe. hes a cringey angsty spoiled teenager who doesnt want to put in the work of improving. holden is a the example of WHAT NOT TO DO. he is not enlightened, hes just emo. he is relatable in the sense that many people have embarrassing phases where they are too lazy to improve themselves and would rather just have sex and do drugs. if someone reads this book and is like "omg holden so smart!!" they are literally the "phonies" that he hates. you did such a good job putting my anger in the words thank you
Gotchu bro
I could never love that pile of paper.
Also funny how people say they relate to holden, but in the end it hints hes in the psych ward 🤣🤣
Bro Holden is not a good person and those who relate to him are probably not good people themselves
@@croclordrusteze man you spitting bars
@@torshavnnewell Who says "spitting bars?!"
@@jeffreygao3956 I says spitting bars
@@torshavnnewell What does it even mean?
As a literature teacher, I wasn't expecting to like this video and thought I'd be arguing in the book's defense but when you called Holden "despicable," well, ya got me there. He is indeed really impossible to like and for those who want the protagonist to be likable? Yeah. This totally isn't the book for you. Good job, you made your case well.
PS: when I was in college, I was asked to write about Wuthering Heights. It's a great book but still my paper revolved around how annoying Catherine is, and how she's not at all an ideal romantic heroine -- so I can relate to finding iconic characters from literature unrelatable.
I'm not really sure if i agree with the statement, that the book tries to make you sympathize with Caufield. The fact that Holden is kind of a douche is made obvious by the book, even by reactions of other characters.
I think a better interpretation is that we are not made to sympathize with him, but that we are lead to examine certain aspects in which our worldview is similar to his worldview. Everybody sometimes feels, that the world around them is too inauthentic, that sometimes people just chase after certain things (social status, money, sex...) not because of some intrinsic need, but because they were socialized to. I think that's why Holden likes kids so much. They are not really capable of acting inauthentically or of chasing after some socially conditioned bullshit they don't even want. The character of Holden, then, is basically what happens if you take all of these ideas into extreme. He does notice certain genuinely shitty elements of the value system in his society, but comes up with no alternative and therefore has absolutely no value system, leading him to be a douchey, depressed wreck.
Thank you! Finally found a review of this half baked garbage with common sense!
You're welcome bro
Video reviews giving Catcher in the Rye underserved get over tens of thousands of views and positive reception.
Videos like this that rightfully bash said pile of garbage get barely any attention.
What is the problem here?
@@jeffreygao3956 idk, I guess people only watch what they wanna hear, but it is what it is. I just make videos for fun, for shits and giggles so I'm not really worried about views, I appreciate it tho
@@croclordrusteze Good to know!
Yes indeed, the book sucks. Not sure how a person could find it either deep or enjoyable.
Probably someone who eats cardboard for breakfast with a side of crow guts.
This is the only book I couldn't finish because I hated Holden
I had to finish it for some damn school assignments
@croclordrusteze I was supposed to and it's the only assignment I faked my way through (before I could use the internet to do so) lol
Amen, brother. I've hated this f'in book for 50 years since first reading it.
Every argument you made proves the genius of the book. He's holding a mirror up to our increasingly infantile society. Our attempt to cater to our fool-ness is what almost every aspect of western society has done. Holden is us. Our pathetic, gotta have our silly coffee and Netflix and chill, scroll till we die lifestyles.
good book rant, Y.C. Lord
Thanks bro I appreciate it
This facts! All I needed to hear was the first sentence
Facts
I like this book but I also like this take on it.
I appreciate it homie
Just finished it. Agree.
Good review!
Best review aside from Phillip Lopate’s.
i love this book but this video is so funny
You, Johnathan Yardley, and Phillip Lopate have the most accurate takes on this pile of paper that hack Salinger dares to call a book.
This is some great satire! Your voice is exactly like a modern day Holden! Perfect! Even if you didn't mean it.
You one of those people huh
Straight>>>>>>>satire.
What a piece of shit book! Thanks for this video.
Thank you very much!
listening to metal and drooping your hair over your eyes to truly immerse yourself in the book
Don't forget the cans of Monster
Holden is the most unreliable and deceptive narrator. its pretty in your face too-its part of the humour of the book for me
"I'm quite illiterate, but I read a lot"
"If there's one thing I hate, it's the movies" -> goes to see the movies a lot
Or he'd hate on Robert Ackley in his narration(the pimply guy) but still invite him out with Mal Brossard to see the movies
Or he'd hate on some kid Ernest Morrow internally but then say nothing but praise about Ernest to Ernest's mother
He says he hates people but he keeps starting talks to cab drivers, pimps, prostitutes, old friends, ex girlfriends of old friends, ladies at a bar
he planned to say goodbye to Mr Spencer before leaving prep school anyway
he phoned Mr Antolini, old teacher of his
He keeps going on tangents about random people he remembers, like Harris Macklin who was a boring guy but could really whistle
Or that Kinsella kid who couldn't speak to the point during Oral Expression class
By the end of the book he gets psychoanalyzed and what are his ending words? He misses everyone including the very pimp that beat the crap outta him
I mean to me Holden is just a foul -mouthed Charlie Brown
I like that he's not cool or a Gary Stu or some legendary figure
Very very flawed but very desperate to integrate
I think people get fooled by his outward whining
Salinger in this book is like a magician, if youre not keeping eye you'll miss the trick
Nope, Salinger is exactly as he appears to be; A miser who wants everyone to suffer like he has. A magician he is not!
@@jeffreygao3956 I mean first person narration indirectly invites you to share in a Narrator's feelings. That's just an inherent part of first person narration.
Am open to hear more on what you mean though. You can contest any of the examples I've given if you like.
A first person perspective doesn’t have to be so wooden and dull though.
@@jeffreygao3956 Holden's voice is one of the most distinctive voices in a book. I mean there are lots of humorous moments.
"*Sleep tight, ya morons!*" I'll bet I woke up every bastard on the whole floor. Then I got the hell out. Some stupid guy had thrown peanut shells all over the stairs, and I damn near broke my crazy neck.
or that one time he's describing a kid farting in class and everyone wanting him to rip another one but he "wasn't in the mood"
I mean idk what kind of first person POV you want. Do you like Huckleberry Finn? Both Huck and Holden mirror the slang of their settings and class... I mean it's not Jane Eyre or Wuthering Heights.
Not funny more like cringeworthy.
Reading this awful book right now for uni, are there are literally TWO PAGES of Holden describing the movie he just watched istg
Yesterday I was forced to read him rambling about luggage for a page and a half. It was horrible
@@crowspears3265 Kilala Princess>>>>>>>>>Catcher in the Rye
i agree
It’s a pity to me when people disparage a book just because the perspective pervading it is that of an awful person. I’ve read books like The Persian Boy which is set in times where pederasty was commonplace and I think there is nothing more interesting than being taken into the life of a different person who faces different realities, whether it be a sorry catamite (aforementioned TPB) or an overly whiney 17 years old misanthrope named Holden Caulfield. Not all books need to either start off with a quasi impeccable character, or end with one through rigid character development. Sometimes it’s just how well a book can take you elsewhere and bring certain things into your ken that makes it so valuable.
That’s no good defense for a half baked shallow pile of paper.
Making a character fully insufferable is bad for the same reasons making a character that is flawless, it's boring. there have been multiple flawed characters in media who the audience isn't supposed to like, but they're written in a way they are slowly redeemed or they're just characters that while bad they are entertaining to watch. Holden is simply JUST BORING AND IRREDEEMABLE and that isn't deep that is just a flaw that truly just annoys the audience through the entire book. the entire story is just an angst teen complaining that while yes it is true he is traumatized and under depression, he is still huge prick that goes around the book complaining and making poor decisions and by the end goes back on all his bad decisions sout of a quick promise and what you get in an ending that doesnt really feel satisfying
@@nyoho5355 That's what I've been trying to tell people all along!
No idea how I got to this vid but a book analysis by someone with a Morgana pfp was too interesting to pass up
Some small points from one who liked the book:
"You know your writing if your main character literally repeats shit so the reader can remember the situation"
The repetition was more so another of Holden's defense mechanisms than anything else. He constantly told himself everything around him was "phoney" so that he didn't have to confront genuine feelings expressed by others (and the ones that he usually repressed).
"The book really tries to make the reader sympathize with Holden - that he's misunderstood, that he's profound"
Completely wrong. The book is about how Holden's inability to grow up is hurting himself more than anyone else; he's meant to be pitied and not idolized.
"I'm convinced this book was written by a goddamn tryhard"
This complaint bothered me the most. Salinger suffered some heavy PTSD after coming back from World War 2, and writing a story about a young kid who wants to regress into childhood bliss and ignore the trauma he faced was pretty clearly analogous to his feelings after returning to America. Reducing him to just a "tryhard" is insulting to the near-universal feeling of wanting to reclaim childhood innocence.
Hopefully you re-read the book someday and enjoy it more when it isn't a school assignment. If not, who cares.
L + Ratio
Catcher in the Rye deserves no defenders!
@@jeffreygao3956 big facts
Thank you for sharing. Someone needed to say it. It needed to be said and I don't think you could of said it better.
@@croclordrusteze your vitriol makes you a kin to Holden. It makes me snicker and gives me entertainment. Just imagine a diabolical laugh 😂🤣🤣
I go back to this whenever I hear people defend this garbage.
That's what's up Jeffrey
Also I just checked
This video got a thousand views
Holy shit
@@croclordrusteze YAY!
The Catcher in the Rye be likes "Haha...well you see...THE BOOK IS SHIT ON PURPOSE and that's very deep and the book is good becaus is awful hahaha!"
BRO THAT'S LITERALLY EVERYONE WHO DEFENDS THE BOOK ISTG
I fuck with the pfp btw
Lol damn I mean everybody is a Holden Caulfield when they’re in their teams so it kind of makes sense you guys don’t like this because you want to feel secure in the book is in giving you that
@@bullrun2772 Bro I am depressed too and on meds, like genuinely im not trying to be quirky I am diagnose and I went through a lot of horrible shit, but bro, NOT EVERY DEPRESS PERSON IS LIKE HOLDEN! IN FACT A VERY SMALL PORTION OF PEOPLE ACT LIKE HOLDEN. Because I do not how hard it is for people who read and like this book to understand that Holden is NOT found as an insufferable piece of shit because he is depressed, HE IS INSUFFERABLE BECAUSE HE IS INSECURE, LIKE ALL TEENAGERS AND THAT IS NORMAL. HIS DEPRESSION JUST AMPLIFIES HIS INSECURITIES. He is insecure because he is a virgin and he feels girls hate him, and he feels bad about failing most of his classes or growing up cause he doesn't feel ready to grow into an adult, like dang when he went out with sally and she said hi to one dude she knew and talk a bit with it HOOOLDEEEN WAS FUUUMING bro was acting like if he was getting cheated on on his first date when all that sally did was just have a chat with a friend and suddenly holden felt like hating her.
I genuinly do not understand how every person says "I had depression and holden is so relatable" like how? He is relatable to a depressed person by the fact "Omg he is sad and he says he is depressed and wants to die just by me!" and like there i this thing that fans and the book itself defend holden's actions not by redeeming qualities but my shoving into your face "HOLDEN IS DEPRESED! LEAVE HIM ALONE!" when his depression should be used as an EXPLANATION or REASONING of why holden is acting like this, not as an excuse or redemption.
I don't like holden not because i want to feel secure in the book
I dont like holden because he is an extremely insecure character with little to no redeeming qualities that feels borderline 1 dimensional who does nothing but complain and talk about fucking girls and sex only for him to not even get to fuck a prostitute he paid for and calling every person he lay his eyes on a "phony" over random 1 dimensional assumptions that lead him to ramble one in a nonsensical and non important essay about complaining over arbitraty things like people having cheap suit cases and for him to the very end to calm down and not run away just because he promised his sister cause he felt bad about making her cry.
@@bullrun2772 I for one think he's a potential menace who would be a dangerous firebrand and threat to the peace who needs to be tied down to a chair and lectured until he agrees to change.
@@nyoho5355 so basically your dumb and a bitch try again because this is more annoying then actaully try to understand the book which you seem to not !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like it is lol
It is that bad!
Hello, I'm currently reading this book because of school (shock horror) and every time Holden says 'it killed me' I want to kill myself. There is no plot, and is just a bunch of misogynistic teenage angst muddled into a 200 ish page book for immature children. I've tried understanding the point of it all, but it leaves me feeling even more confused.
Sending myself thoughts and prayers.
THANK YOU! I FEEL THE EXACT SAME WAY
How dare the depressed neglected child be flawed.Not all protagonists are harry potter
@@Ouopa. miss me with that corny shit
@@croclordrusteze I'm sure you are very hyped about the new marvel movie buddy ,take care
@@Ouopa. so me not liking a fake complex and pretentious book automatically makes me a marvel fan? Lmao, do you hear yourself talk? Don't like what I'm saying or what anyone's saying for that matter, leave the video you loser, you're not cool for liking this book
HOW DARE YOU?
on god, it’s so poop LOL
DEADASS
Actual good literature=100% dark chocolate.
Catcher in the Rye=Poop.
Why do people even assign this pile of paper again?
I don't know man I liked it
I didn’t and won’t ever!
What brings me much joy is he sounds like you. Row row your boat ⛵ gently down the stream.😉
…What?