LOTS OF QUESTIONS for Tua & Dolphins 👀 'BEST QB in Miami since Dan Marino' - Dan Orlovsky | NFL Live
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
- Mike Reiss, Dan Orlovsky, Adam Schefter and Sam Acho join Laura Rutledge on NFL Live to discuss news from all around the AFC East including Tua Tagovailoa and the Miami Dolphins and Drake Maye and the New England Patriots.
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I’m a Diehard find fan. I’ve been a Tua supporter and defender. I don’t think he’s earned 50 plus mil a year. Has not won a game in the cold and hasn’t won a playoff game. He has had concussions. Give him 40 mil a year if he continues to reject make him play at the 23 mil and see how he does this upcoming year.
Completely agree with you bro he is accurate like no other quarterback and his arm is getting stronger and this team is built around him and now I truly believe with this team it's second year I think they're going to come through and he's going to have another crazy at Goodyear they need to sign them for in between 40 and 50 but I would pay him top dollar they're not going to get better than him there's nobody out there
What has Herbert done to deserve his contract?
The market is what it is, Dak got extensions with a marginal playoff record, The Dolphins hadn't sniffed the playoffs since Dan Marino played till Tua arrived. If I'm him, no way I start the season without a contract extension. He's proven they are headed in the right direction. Their alternative is to scrap every asset they have and start from the ground up. They're not gonna do that when they are on the doorstep of something special.
Fans are so delusional and desperate
Not by any means has he earned it.
Tua by far the best QB we had since Marino the numbers don’t lie we haven’t had a loosing season since he been there hopefully they reach a deal we headed in the right direction with him
Jeep dealer and Dave wants that had three straight years of 11 and 5 with playoffs
No way I'm paying him 50 million a year he's average but we may have to.
Well this tough because his injury history and second because we haven’t seen him get it done in the playoffs yet.
Lamar 1-3 in playoffs and look wat he got paid
Burrow has a worse injury history and he’s the highest paid qb
@@bowedagoat941 Lamar has won two mvps and first team all pro. Thats why he got paid now yes he has to do more in the playoffs.
@@Evr0man burrow took his team to the Super Bowl in first full season starting and almost won if the defense give up that huge play.
Facts. Why no one talks about Burrow injury history. Tua has played more games than him. People just follow these show narratives
As a raider fan I would love to have tua as qb1❤
As a Falcons fan i hope they make him the highest paid player in history that way the media will leave us alone
The falcons offseason Penix, Cousins qb blunder will not be going away anytime soon in fact, it will be studied for many years
@@pablodiaz1172 Much like that historic Super Bowl choke.
I just hope you draft another first round qb next year
No they wont - you have 2 QBs
😂😂😂
7:05 Thanks #DanO 💛💛💛
Salary Cap raises at about 10% per year so in 3-4 years 50 million is going to feel really cheap.Top QBs will be demanding 80 million.
Dolphins gonna give Tua 50 plus million. He's going to get another concussion or two. It will end his career basically. Dolphins will career that dead money and be screwed. It is a very Dolphins move. Sign him!
No GUYS IT'S NOT TUA . it's HIS AGENT RYAN WILLIAMS
2024 prediction: Best offense in the league in September, worst offense in the league in January. Enjoy your regular season wins
I like his spirit but it seems he.s 1 good hit away from permanent damage
Ya but they can’t even hit ppl anymore
@@jeffbanks8767 😆
We.ll see what happens.
could say that ab any qb one good hit and anyone could be done😂
@@Tylerr622 no because we have seen T take some nasty hits & look dead on field body freezing KO
Every player is one hit away from permanent damage!
The Dolphins think they can do better than Tua
They can. Now that Baker got that deal signed in Tampa, if I were the Fins GM I'd figure out a trade and bring Trask to Miami. He was a second rounder from UF, pretty serviceable option for the Dolphins in the short term until they can figure something better out.
@@willlazenby1050get off the crack 😂.
@@Isaac-eh6uu😅
@@Isaac-eh6uu Say whatever you want but Trask was a legit starter at UF, he's 6'5 235, can ball good enough as temporary option and won't cost Miami 40 million a year.
@@willlazenby1050just For 1 Season deal Because The Dolphins are Seeking to tank For Arch Manning if he Came to the pro football league period.
To have all that talent from Hill, Obj, Waddle, ECT. When the Dolphins go against elite Defences they fold like cheap tents..
Tua should've been signed and been loyal to miami like miami been loyal to him.. ima die hard dolphins fan i say trade his ungrateful azz... The world was against tua except miami and miami loyalist and now he wanna play these games.. he was 1 McDaniel from being either a back up somewhere else or out the league because of injuries and now my boy brand new.. all this talent miami brought inn for this guy just to be out the playoffs when its cold or he hurt .. sell out get rid of him
Facts. Missing otas? R u kidding me? Where tf did that come from... Can't get tackled without f****** almost dying? And you skip otas bc you want more money?? Bye.
Play games? The guy was at OTAs today when ppl acting like he was gonna hold out. Plus all we know is that he turned down 1 offer which is common in almost every negotiation. You never take the first offer because it’s likely a low ball offer, hence why it’s called a negotiation. A deal will get done before the start of the season.
@@rainman11 so he don't deserve a low ball number?.. tf has he done to be holding out compared to what Miami has done for him and his career
@@pepelapew369 who tf said he’s holding out? He was literally at OTAs yesterday and he even said at his luau last month that he would be there regardless of the contract situation.
Also it’s not about him turning down a low ball offer as that is common in almost every contract negotiation for any player. Dolphins front office will start on the low side, Tua and his agent will be on the high side then they “negotiate” and find a middle ground that satisfies both camps. Like that’s literally how it works! Tua is a standup guy and holding out is not in his character. They’ll get a deal done by the start of training camp, I’m fairly confident in that.
@@rainman11 ok fairly we gonna see.. I say trade him
Dan trying to be fancy when "alluded" would have made more sense lol
If he's the best thing in Miami since the great one Dan Marino why hasn't this guy won a division yet😊😊
I wish we would stop having discussions about playoff wins in the comments with Tua and Dak that we don’t have about Justin Herbert and Kirk Cousins…
No talks needed for Cousins?
As a Miami Dolphins fan we need to get rid of the General Manager first and then get rid of Tua
What?😂
How bout we just get rid of you
Then you must know nothing about the Dolphins
How bout we just get rid of you
Thank you. Someone with some sense 💯
He'll only give 8 games a yr
you’re being way too generous more like 5-6
Funny cause he's only missed 8 games out of a possible 61 which equals 2 games missed a season 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Between he and Tannihil.
Tua's a top-10 QB. So, Tua should get top-10 QB pay.
*Equal Pay for Equal Work*
So in the playoffs your quarterback has to be able to run to extend drives the first time he runs he gets a concussion game over !
I’m all in for paying him top 8-6 QB money 45mil annual avg only because besides the injury history he hasn’t won a playoff game let alone the division.
Top 8 QB Money is $50 mill a year.
Please don't pay him one of these crazy qb team killing contracts
I still can't believe we didn't pick up not one QB in da draft 🤦
Skylar given the same tutelage that two got and he’ll be twice the quarterback to his two his got a concussion. They don’t go away. He got another concussion and then the Green Bay was icing on the cake.
So Tua/Burrow drafted same year - Tua coming off a potentially-career-ending hip injury... and after their 4th season. Tua - 53 games, Burrow - 52 games.
We're talking about AVAILability..... so why is the narrative different for Tua? Outside of the fluke concussions in 2022 - he's only missed a few games due to one of the worst OLines in history his first 2 years.
Burrow has helped his team get multiple division titles, 2 afc championship game appearances and a Super Bowl appearance. He’s earned the benefit of the doubt. What has Tua done?
He’s a sack away from being DOA on the field
He took numerous sacks last year and played the entire season. 🤷♂️
Burrow injury history is worse. Tua played more games. Why they don't talk about that. We can't keep riding his Superbowl appearance forever.
The Dolphins GM Chris Grier has said to the media earlier this year that TUA's INJURY HISTORY WILL NOT BE A FACTOR IN THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATION. Just like Joe Burrow whose missed more games than Tua. So , like Fan said..This is a No Brainier and Tua will get the contract he so deserves and wants.
If he said that he's either lying or an imbecile.
He’s the best QB in Miami since Dan Marino. Tua stayed healthy in 2023, have elite WRs, Tua is a franchise QB.
Nonsense
Pls give him 50+ a year Miami 😂😂
Do it like the chiefs did with patrick mahomes and alex smith let jecobi play till week 16 then let drake may play week 17 and 18
MIAMI TUA’S THE BEST QB U HAVE HAD IN OVER 20 YEARS SO DONT BLOW IT AND DONT TRY AND CON HIM. TUA’S WORTH THE MONEY AND DONT WORRY ABOUT HIM GETTING HURT HIS TAKING CARE OF HIMSELF BECAUSE HE KNOWS THATS IMPORTANT TUA IS A TOP TIER QB AND IN 2024 HE WILL SHOW ALL OF US JUST HOW GOOD HE IS, AND MIAMI WHATEVER MONEY YOU PAY HIM IS NOT GOING BE ENOUGH WHEN YOU NOTICE HIS PLAYS. SO TOP THE B S AND GIVE HIM THAT CONTRACT EXTENSION AND LETS MOVE ON WITH WINNING THE SUPER BOWL
Probably- Play Maye!
Wasn’t Chad Pennington good for them too? Asking y’all
For everyone saying do not pay him. Please name a quarterback that's out there that we can replace him with.
You can replace him with a cheeseburger and use that $52M a year you save to shore up a team with multiple needs elsewhere. Tua is not that guy. He is never going to throw anything other than gentle rainbows, and he is never going to become a durable QB.
Tua statistically his numbers were great thanks for his head coach and the players around him but Tua needs to play better in the playoffs. Drake Maye who looks like he is absolutely zero Aura at all so I think he’s going to be a draft bust I’m not joking at least though they decided hey if we’re going to draft a bust it’s not going to be because NE didn’t give him enough support so they drafted a 2 WRs, OT, OG. I think Milton might be better with his massively strong arm. This might be another RG3 and Cousins situation
I think the Dolphins might franchise him and see what's on market or draft. I see Dak Prescott going there
Holy cold take
Lil bro wants the Jared Goff money but is made of glass and unlike Burrow, can't deliver when needed
Yet Burrow was the one that missed more games than Tua due to injuries
Just overlook the fact burrow was carried to the SB by his defense
Pay Tua, but put in the contract that he must wear a Soft Shell Helmet Cover during the game.
Tua is going to get 43 mil a year, currently he was offered 38 mill which is why he refused
Offer Tua 30-35 mil a year if he doesn’t want it let him go.
Tua was not hurt last season
Tua is not Super Bowl QB Jared Goff who doesn't get concussions. Goff is the only QB in NFL history w/over 30,000 yards and under 100 Ints. Tua has done nothing other than rack up yards and would hate to see him seriously hurt. The man shouldn't be playing. It was awful watching Steve Young in his last days. This is so wrong.
As a pats fan PLEASE sign tue long term...he won't won a cold game or against a GOOD team..tyreek is that whole offense
If you’re a bills fan or ravens fan I get it but of all teams the patriots shouldn’t want to see Tua get extended
@Shua321 tua hasn't lost to the patriots but he also has missed games against the patriots...and tua ain't winning a superbowl so go ahead extend him and overpay for a very mediocre qb who folds in cold weather or against good teams
@@zack6736 Tua can't win a SB yet players like Nick foles, brad Johnson, Trent dilfer, Eli Manning have won SB......none of them are better than Tua
How’d the patriots manage to sign 3 QBs that look like triplets..? Lol
You can talk injury history all you want, fact is, by now, Joe Burrow has more missed games in his career than Tua, but it was no issue when Burrow got paid.
Burrow made it to the Super Bowl and he has a winning record against Mahomes
What happens if they give him a big paycheck and he takes another hit to the head? How many concussions does he have left?
Tua been a winner since day 1 without Tyreek or Mcdaniel. Pay da man he gives you a chance you never had in 20yrs. Get a proper Defense. Every Superbowl winner not playoff winners had a MVP type players on D.
When it comes to Patrick Mahomes, Josh can go crazy and win a SupwrBowl, we still shouldn’t put him in the same realm as Pat Mahomes, Mahomes right now is in the conversation of who will he surpass, as his career progresses. Let’s not start something that will cause everyone to go after the guy while he just lost his number one and are trying to rebuilt in Buffalo, let the guy play ball.
Josh Allen first Superbowl win will be vs Minnesota Vikings, and Patrick Mahones could be the Guy to surpassed every recordbooks of Peyton Manning.
They need to pay Tua and deal with it. They had chances to get other qb's and didn't now they acting like dummies
So sign him now so you don’t have to sign him for more later🤷🏾♂️.. unless you don’t want him
Ok. Tua is better than Jay Fielder, AJ Feeley, Gus Frerotte, Joey Harrington, Cleo Lemon, end of the line Chad Pennington, Chad Henne, Matt Moore, Ryan Tannehill without Derrick Henry around to carry him, end of the line Jay Cutler, and end of the line Ryan Fitzpatrick. Is that really an wide eyes emoji statement?
If Miami was smart, they’d resign him. Otherwise they gonna find themselves in another 5 year rut like when they had Tannehill. Good luck finding another gunslinger
For the love of God don't resign him!!! Trade for a new QB, and draft picks
Miami is in win now mode, a new QB will completely f that up. Tua is the best QB for this scheme, the only QB upgrades are guys that won’t get traded or will cost an insane amount to get which just makes no sense. If Miami wants to win they need Tua
Yall always say get rid of him but never say who to replace him with.
@@1DolPhan1966 exactly, there is no one better than him available
Do you want to win a Super Bowl or do you just want to be competitive? Take a risk and move on or play it safe to be middle of the pack.
You guys love to bring up the last 2 seasons making the playoffs. That's fair but How about you Also, bring up the last 2 seasons.We were 1 game away From 2 collapses if it wasn't for our kicker and backup quarterback vs the jets.
You don't make sense. Go back to your video games son.
So Cheetah is cool with another start over? While he seems healthy AF, they pay him and he gets THAT hit career over and you have to get a QB anyway. Dude have been injury hit since Alabama 😔. Or they drop him he goes somewhere else and becomes a lesser Drew Brees story he is only 26🤷🏾♂️
3rd best QB in division…that’s not sayin much
PHINSUP🐬🐬🐬🐬
Dan o needs to go
There is a third side , he can't beat a good team so he is no Borrow, no Allen, no Mahomes just paying a qb because it's usually done is pretty sorry. Prove you can beat teams over .500, prove you can win a play off game and not just one. They choked against Tennesse, choked against Buffalo and just can't beat KC. He is not a top tier qb and Steven Ross would be a fool to pay him that kind of money! I don't hate Tua in fact it's quite the opposite I want to see him succeed and he will with a little more time. I've been a Dolphins fan for 54 years is he the best since Marino but is he there yet sadly no !
Anyone else remember when Dak Prescott said he couldn’t feed his family with $45 million😂
Dolphins are desperate so they will overpay Tua?
9-8 and 200 million in the same sentence will get chris Grier and Mike McDaniel #fired. 😐🏈🐬📰
Miami will be a 500 team this season. They were truly a average team last year just weak schedule
Joe borrow been injuried more stop it
Pay the man 🐬
Stay off drugs kids
They better not pay Tht man!!
Man Tua suck against elite teams and when you watch film he leaves so much on the the field. Why do you think they haven’t paid him. Has nothing to do with injuries everything to do with on the field play against elite teams . He isn’t clutch!!
Wow spinning chicken sh!t into chicken salad, what sports media does best/worst.
Tua is not that guy, and he has never been. He has a rag arm compared to many in the NFL. You could plug in a middling QB for $20M less a year than Tua and use that money in better places.
Like Tua and I’m a fan. But keeping it one hundred he haven’t done anything to earn 50+ million dollars.
He did not look impressive against any real competition throughout the year.
34-19 is impressive enough!
He's average at best
He sucks don't pay him
Are you better than 34-19 in the NFL?
@@PA96704 yup and more playoff wins
200 mill for 5 180 guaranteed max id go for tua and im a dolphins fan
Better than Marino WTF
No “SINCE Marino”
😅
That would be Arch Manning.