How Do I Backup All My Servers???

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  • čas přidán 19. 03. 2021
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    Running backups is always a challenge, whether you work in Enterprise, Small Business, or even just in your HomeLab. Today, I'm getting my entire server stack backed up to a new NAS, extending incremental copies to 2 months, and (most importantly) automating the entire process.
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Komentáře • 401

  • @icantthinkofaname2176
    @icantthinkofaname2176 Před 3 lety +269

    "What's your backup solution?" Prayers

    • @bestbattle
      @bestbattle Před 3 lety +15

      So freaking relatable, bro

    • @davekuss
      @davekuss Před 3 lety +9

      I liked this comment and I have full knowledge that those prayers do, literally, nothing

    • @samiraperi467
      @samiraperi467 Před 3 lety +2

      White wine.

    • @yodinpa
      @yodinpa Před 2 lety

      Lol 😆 ✅️

    • @jonathanzj620
      @jonathanzj620 Před rokem

      *Thoughts and prayers

  • @whirledpeaz5758
    @whirledpeaz5758 Před 3 lety +142

    Good that Jeff isn't clumsy like Linus, Open glasses of Liquid near the Open server chassis.

    • @Romnipotent
      @Romnipotent Před 3 lety +11

      And Jeff does a lot of hand talking

    • @nils-erikolsson3539
      @nils-erikolsson3539 Před 3 lety +1

      😂😂

    • @sccsuk
      @sccsuk Před 3 lety +1

      Not switched on so 0 risk lol

    • @mikkelbreiler8916
      @mikkelbreiler8916 Před 3 lety +2

      1. Jeff checks Linus' systems before passing them on to others. Linus built a new system for a big guy from Oregon and because of Corona and as Jeff lives practically (!) next door to the guy, Jeff delivered it in person instead of Linus.
      2. Linus has visited a data recovery company, so he is aware just how much he can screw up before actually losing data. LMG actually suffered a fire in the server room. There was something about a bolt. Not lightning but a regular bolt.

    • @Steamrick
      @Steamrick Před 3 lety +1

      @@mikkelbreiler8916 The closest LMG came to losing all their data was a raid controller dying while he was prepping the new backup solution. There's a very interesting video about that. But yeah, the UPS frying is also something that happened.

  • @jmonsted
    @jmonsted Před 3 lety +248

    There's absolutely no reason this video arrived just after the basement flooded, right? :-P

    • @WillFuI
      @WillFuI Před 3 lety +7

      Those 2 events are 100% unrelated for sure

    • @KillaBitz
      @KillaBitz Před 3 lety +5

      LOL

    • @jamess1787
      @jamess1787 Před 3 lety +5

      Insurance is sometimes nice!

    • @gari5961
      @gari5961 Před 3 lety +1

      Or the data center fire in france recently ... Coincidence for sure

    • @Loewi_CW
      @Loewi_CW Před 3 lety +1

      @@gari5961 that one definitely wasn't the reason for me to automate my server backups for the server I got at that company in that city and luckily didn't burn down. Nope.

  • @TheJam53ice
    @TheJam53ice Před 3 lety +18

    Stumbled across your channel as I'm starting to build my own home lab, have to say, your videos are super informative and easy to follow, keep it up!

  • @fastedu
    @fastedu Před 2 lety +3

    Hi Jeff, fantastic reviewo on servers, not only entertaining but so information packed that its a super pleasure to listen to you and a great source of knowledge you share - not stops barred.

  • @NickMoline
    @NickMoline Před 3 lety +23

    love how your data sets are named with the registry numbers of the Valiant and Defiant

  • @jamesnisly9537
    @jamesnisly9537 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I'm definitely looking forward to video covering how you decide to handle off-site backup as I'm in a similar boat.

  • @nadtz
    @nadtz Před 3 lety +2

    Watching this again is just making me remember writing little scripts to Cron. So nice having these appliances to do this stuff with now a days. Finally got all the bits for my first server, now to start saving for some 10gb networking hardware and a second server.

  • @PoeLemic
    @PoeLemic Před 3 lety

    Very helpful. I was reminded shortly again (during end of February) about importance of backups, because my File Server failed. I thought that I'd lost most of my stuff, or, at least, everything since August of 2020 -- when I backed-up shortly before the last Hurricane in Houston, Texas. But, I do believe in backups, but I was just backing-up within the same server. YEAH, DUMB MISTAKE. However, I never thought that Windows would start damaging data, and I copied my Master Copy onto the Backup Copy. But, eventually, I got it figured out, but it scared me quite a lot. Never been in that situation, so I guess (sadly) that I will have to advance my skillset to setup something like you have. Not exactly, but more like another computer on network just for backups. Thanks for your videos. Helps show us the best (or better) practices than what a lot of us have, right now.

  • @soniclab-cnc
    @soniclab-cnc Před 3 lety +1

    lol... perfect timing on this video. I am just about to set up a second nas in my shed for "offsite" backup. I looked through all the settings last night and had a rough idea how to create my replication tasks. I was pretty close but this will definitely help! Thanks Jeff! I am loving proxmox so much too! I will never go back to VMware... Proxmox just works.

  • @TrueNAS
    @TrueNAS Před 3 lety +2

    Cheers to another informative #TrueNAS video, Craft!

  • @adamw9764
    @adamw9764 Před 3 lety +16

    I picked up 2 Chenbro's because of you....one for a new plex build and one just because I wanted to tinker.....damn you and your amazing channel

  • @l0rider
    @l0rider Před 3 lety +3

    You might want to keep an eye on the temperatures of those HP (made by QLogic) 10Gb adapters. I recently put two of those same adapters in my homelab servers. One of them hit 108C and shut down! After a bit of reading, I discovered they have known overheating issues. I replaced them with Emulex-based cards and the thermals are much better (one running at 47C, the other at 57C as I write this, with no other changes to the configuration).

  • @zik316
    @zik316 Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much for this tutorial. I have just set up a proper backup server for my main truenas and this worked without a hitch. I even set up the connection on a direct link between each server so it's not hogging my network. I've got about 60+TB to transfer and that will take awhile on my simple 1 gig network.

  • @jrucker2004
    @jrucker2004 Před 3 lety +17

    My backup setup is very similar to yours. Pro-tip: change the theme on your backup truenas gui, so it's immediately obvious which system you're looking at.

  • @theburntcrumpet8371
    @theburntcrumpet8371 Před 3 lety

    I've recently configured UrBackup on my LAN for backing up my desktop and laptops and I'm really enjoying it. It will take hot system image backups on windows for the system volume and also does an incremental backup of all your data

  • @OnlyKelp
    @OnlyKelp Před 3 lety +10

    I think this guy likes servers

  • @YeOldeTraveller
    @YeOldeTraveller Před 3 lety

    Just getting started with TrueNAS, and this is similar to my local backup solution.
    I'm still working on the remote backup. My current plan is to create a third TrueNAS system as a backup, and take it to my father's house in another state after the initial backup is done.
    My rate of data generation is fairly slow, so the 6 Mb/s I get outbound will not be too much of a problem.

  • @claystorm
    @claystorm Před 3 lety +1

    SysAdmin of a small to midsized local construction company here. Currently we have two ReadyNAS's onsite that are roughly mirrored (say roughly as our security footage is only on one NAS, which is fine as it comes from a different box). We then have a third NAS at our ISPs Colo Facility that the local data gets backed up to nightly. Our two physical servers which are mirrored are also backed up nightly to those NAS's and we also use some national cloud backup providers for that data as well.
    As for those ReadyNAS boxes, we were original customers to Infrant Technologies before Netgear bought them about. We bought replacements 4 years ago and while they've been pretty rock solid, when I replace these, it will probably be with TrueNAS on some barebones Dell or other boxes. Netgear seems to have ReadyNAS in maintenance only mode these days, which is sad to see.

  • @Darkk6969
    @Darkk6969 Před 3 lety +11

    If both TrueNAS machines have the dual 10gig SFP+ cards in them you could make use of LAGG to increase the throughput between the servers. Since the traffic is being handled on the same switch it's not going to affect your network that much. Plus added bonus of fault tolerance if one network cable or port should go bad.

    • @mormantu8561
      @mormantu8561 Před 3 lety +2

      As he states in the video. One port is used for direct connection to one another.

    • @jttech44
      @jttech44 Před 3 lety +1

      @@mormantu8561 I'd be surprised if the switches aren't full fabric switches, ie, they can switch 100% of the aggregate port bandwidth simultaneously, and that's almost all switches nowadays. That means that "keeping data off the network" is completely irrelevant, because the network as a whole will never be congested. Additionally, none of these arrays can saturate a 10gbps link, let alone two, so aside from whatever overhead SSH would cause you (shouldn't be much), aggregating the dual 10gbps links via LACP 801.11ad gives you the same performance, plus the benefit of fault tolerance.

    • @mormantu8561
      @mormantu8561 Před 3 lety

      @@jttech44 But we don't know anything about his networking infrastructure. And I agree fully with what you are telling. But without knowing the rest there's really not a lot we can remark on.

  • @TallBeast
    @TallBeast Před 3 lety +3

    Hello From New Zealand. Love your videos. Just asking whats your power bill like?

  • @PeterBatah
    @PeterBatah Před rokem

    Thank you for sharing. I would like to have seen how things were setup on the TrueNAS side. Eg. how to configure TN as the backup target.

  • @eganloughran7359
    @eganloughran7359 Před 3 lety +1

    To backup my truenas box off site I use backblaze B2 as you can set up a sync in truenas for it. The monthly cost for storage can get a little steep but it's cheaper than anywhere else I've found. The initial data upload sucks but not much to do about that with the amount of data you've got.

  • @Bartzii
    @Bartzii Před 2 lety

    your earnd my like after 8 seconds. cheers mate

  • @jlficken
    @jlficken Před 3 lety

    I get where you're coming from. I'm at 90TB of usable storage on my unRAID server with 60.6TB being used along with 2x14TB WD Ultrastar parity drives.
    I'm using a Netgear ReadyNAS RN516 with a 5-bay expansion to back up the unRAID server.
    Rsync is a wonderful thing. I'm also using Duplicati to send encrypted backups to Google Drive of important data.

  • @mistakek
    @mistakek Před 3 lety

    For my backups, I run Synologys Active Backup For Business, along with snapshots every 5 mins. AB4B is amazing, I can do a bare metal restore of any machine in my network, and along with the snapshots, and full shared folders backup, to the backup NAS, along with uploading to the cloud, I really have piece of mind of my data. Synology's AB4B is the best backup system I've come across in 25years of IT

  • @digitalsparky
    @digitalsparky Před 3 lety +4

    For off-site backup, you can backup to backblaze b2 - they can even send you a drive array push the bulk of your data to, so that you don't have to upload it all over the internet. I recommend giving that a go :)

    • @someguy9321
      @someguy9321 Před rokem

      how much tho? i thought about using it and my array is 2 TB of 12 TB and growing

    • @digitalsparky
      @digitalsparky Před rokem

      @@someguy9321 $5 per month per TB. (USD)

  • @magnuslindgren9460
    @magnuslindgren9460 Před 3 lety

    Basically the same. Had a single FreeNAS with raidz-1 and one drive failed and that was scary 😱️
    Had a media player in my living room, a PC with Ubuntu that could house two drives I had laying around so I immediately set it up with raid-0 and rsync:ed my NAS to that one.
    I've had two FreeNAS for a couple of years now, with the type of setup you describe in the video. So worth it, so relaxing.
    The plan for this summer is to create a new TrueNAS with server grade hardware and also upgrade the old ones to TrueNAS, once the new one is up and running.
    I have other things to do first, creating a couple of Raspberry Pi clusters so that I can, finally, decommission one of my rather old and very power hungry 1U servers.

  • @Equality-and-Liberty
    @Equality-and-Liberty Před 3 lety

    I like the way you open your video's and your videos are a source of inspiration for me. One thing i want to ask though is this, do you have solar panels on the roof of your house or do you generate your own energy in another way? I saw a video of you when you talked about an 800 watt PSU for a server and i thought that must be a huge source of energy consumption if you don't have one but several units of this kind in your house.

  • @pichlalex
    @pichlalex Před 3 lety

    Hi Jeff,
    my 3.2.1 Backup Solution is essentially the same as yours... but with only 25 MBit upload (and a larger Dataset) :-)
    i am running a small Atom (10W) board with plenty of SATA connections and i am doing the backup to my brothers home using FreeNas/Truenas Cloud Sync Tasks... they are working more reliable in my case (especially you can set up the cloud sync task not to consume your full internet connection during the day)
    i made the initial replication (using a replication task) via my network, then i drove the BackupNAS to my brothers house and changed to cloud sync tasks. between both homes i use a VPN tunnel.

  • @getyerspn
    @getyerspn Před 3 lety

    The off site backup is something I would advocate implicitly.... I've seen firsthand the devistating effects of a workplace fire and the data loss that nearly resulted in bankruptcy...even if it's a case of periodically physically taking a NAS off site and bringing it back when you need to run another backup is it's a must have ...we used to call them the deep sleep backups....I've worked in rural locations where they had only

  • @asphaltbinder
    @asphaltbinder Před 3 lety

    Great video man! I definitely do not have a backup system as intricate as yours but, for my newbie backup I am using a repurposed Dell T5400 workstation with two Intel Xeon E5430 CPU's, 64GBs of ECC memory, five 3TB HDD in Raid-Z2 with a 120GB SSD cache drive and 4 1Gb ports configured as a LAGG LACP running TrueNAS-12.0-U2.1. Not that great but enough to back up the data on my home network as well as teaching myself how to us Truenas with tutorials such as yours. Keep up the good work!

  • @hakovatube
    @hakovatube Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you for the entertaining and educating video as always! What should be the capacity of a back up server that is meant to be used for backing up another TrueNAS server that has a pool size of about 35 TB? Should the capacity be comparable, or can one get away with a smaller capacity due to some ZFS magic?

  • @joran4612
    @joran4612 Před 3 lety +3

    Could you do a video about properly setting up a web server?

  • @robertspencer3553
    @robertspencer3553 Před 3 lety +1

    Jeff, I already did the first chenbro on your last video...Thanks the learning experience was great..cost me a fortune in drives..the 32GB mem upgrade cost more than the server as well...I still have a problem with the rails...cant find 'em...how u doing on the rail situation?....
    I also setup the proxmox server
    March 30 im turning another year older and getting screwed by being a disabled vietnam war veteran.
    I gotta figure this out and get a job before I am sleeping in a cardboard box.
    Keep these videos coming so I am not homeless...Computers are the only thing giving me the will to live.
    I am not as sophisticated as you so I am just drinking a Bud...been giving that up to buy some more 4GB WD red cmr disks
    Thank You

  • @andersthorsen8862
    @andersthorsen8862 Před 3 lety

    Hi Jeff. Thanks for another great video with a very relevant and extremely important subject.
    I have acquired 2 tower servers and are planning to setup ProxMox and TrueNAS, but I am unsure on where to place what and how to design it. Do you have time for helping with answering these type of questions? It would really help me a lot.
    Best regards Anders.

  • @3tuxedo
    @3tuxedo Před 5 měsíci

    This is a fantastic video - thanks for your hard work! Question: how do you then restore a snapshot that's been transferred to the backup server?

  • @TheNets
    @TheNets Před 3 lety

    For my personal server, I have the DigitalOcean backup feature enabled and I have a simple rsync that runs daily and replicate the files in a incremental way to my home NAS.

  • @rhyss8580
    @rhyss8580 Před 2 lety

    This video was very educational. As a uni student living in a university dorm I can’t have more than one server and the university blocks VPNs so I can’t offsite backup to my parents house. So at the moment I encrypt my data on my server and back it up to Backblaze.

  • @TheZop1
    @TheZop1 Před 3 lety +2

    How about using AWS for your 3-2-1 offsite solution? You can get the Snowball to make the first transfer and then just sync

  • @thebtm
    @thebtm Před 3 lety

    You seed your backup that is offsite and calculate a monthly different to off load, if the monthly difference is small enough that you can spread it across the month at night, you should be able to stay within your bandwidth limits. I was a IT Backup & Storage Administrator in a past job. (my suggestion is an over simplification but you get the idea i hope)
    Check out transferring delta difference and building a Synthetic full.

  • @joshharding6925
    @joshharding6925 Před 3 lety

    I can recommend the Proxmox Backup solution. Works a treat... Great video again Jeff. Just wish I could do gin...

  • @markkoops2611
    @markkoops2611 Před 3 lety +25

    Suggest for off site, duplicate the server you just built, have it replicate the backup server on site initially then move it to a friend's house and ssh tunnel back

    • @steven44799
      @steven44799 Před 3 lety +2

      alternatively, pay for 1RU of space in a nearish DC or setup a "cloud" sync to somewhere like backblaze B2 or amazon glacier.

    • @opotime
      @opotime Před 3 lety +3

      if your car is in a closed storage...same building...
      get a ssd server for your car and a network port in the garage...
      if something happens im sure i rush away with my car.
      its not the best but also a solution to help the family with backups if you do a visit. :)
      greatz from Germany
      have a nice Day

    • @Erci78yt
      @Erci78yt Před 3 lety +2

      Tape drive storage is an ol' reliable and you can store the tapes off site at a friend's house or a climate controlled storage unit (nearby or by mail for geographically separated backup) or a safety deposit box at a bank. Tapes aren't that big in physical volume each, but this is a case where sneakernet may still outstrip network duplication for offsite backup. Plus it's a true offline storage which would protect you against certain types of malware.
      That said, enterprise grade tape drives can get expensive fast. A newer LTO7 or LTO8 drive is north of $3,000. An LTO5 drive on eBay is like $400 reliably, not counting the HBA or rack mounting, but the LTO5 tapes are like $15 each if you buy a 5 pack - though the newer varieties of tapes are cheaper per terabyte yet more expensive per tape. I'll use the old LTO5 tape format for the rest of this reply, since that's what I'm using.
      Bear in mind you likely won't get the full capacity claimed on tapes if you write video files. That's because video files compress poorly to tape media and video formats already try really hard to be efficient plus when you add in a modest capacity loss if you enable LTFS and an LTO5 tape will hold a bit more than 1.2 TB. (Or 1.5 TB if you leave LTFS off, but then you need to do more tracking of what's on a tape rather than just mounting and reading the filesystem.) A tape rotation plan would be needed too if you plan to reuse tapes... Aaaaand then you're back on human scheduling.
      A harder problem for a CZcams channel or someone running a home lab than a general user, clearly.
      Source: I have an LTO5 external SAS tape drive hooked up to my home/lab server. It's enough for me, but my RAID 5 data array is only 2.7 TB in usable size, so... Your problem is significantly bigger than mine. Though watching you gives me the itch to buy more servers. 😉
      Some other people have suggested you can try network duplication to an offsite location, but maybe you can try with some rate limiting to try and share your uplink bandwidth with your other use cases? The initial sync will still be crazy long (or even get longer), but it might not necessarily cause you daily discomfort while it runs in the background. You might also need to break that rsync job into batches. 😬

    • @tassadarforaiur
      @tassadarforaiur Před 3 lety +3

      As an lto6 user, lto7+ for for 40tb+ arrays is my vote. Especially if using a simple tape drive, and not an autoload library. I'd love to go that route, but would probably need some friends willing to split the cost of the drive, and only make periodic tape backups

    • @HerrFreese
      @HerrFreese Před 3 lety

      I calculated rhat for this exact use case (off site raw video backup) AWS Glacier is the cheapest option (cheaper than buying your own lto drive and managing everything). You'll need these Backups close to never. I'm just not sure if AWS Glacier stores the data redundant. I think I wouldn't even use on site backup If the videos are years old if Glacier is redundant.

  • @briank8525
    @briank8525 Před 3 lety

    Hi Jeff. Great video as always. Obviously I don't have the amount of data you do. I use a Synology with cloudsync installed. So I use synology's backup agent on my laptop which backs up my data to the synology. Then every 24 hours all the data is backed up to a S3 Bucket. .

  • @subman719
    @subman719 Před 2 lety

    Hey Jeff, after watching this video again, I just noticed your "coaster"! 3.5" FLOPPY DISK! Love it!!! LMAO!!!

  • @dozern
    @dozern Před 3 lety

    Working for a cloud-provider, and being insanely lucky with local purchases (and just basically people calling me, asking if I need "stuff"...)
    I have a HP DL380 G9 with a 40 TB diskstorage, this is connected to two (yes, two) taperobots, providing a total of 6 drives and 80 tapes online.
    You can say I'm pretty much set on backups ;)

  • @Squinoogle
    @Squinoogle Před 3 lety

    I love that you're using starship registry numbers as the names for your pools. Although it seems somewhat ominous that you're using the registries for two ships that were both destroyed ;-)

  • @karlok.9631
    @karlok.9631 Před 3 lety

    Great video. Keep it up.

  • @conquerordie230
    @conquerordie230 Před 3 lety +36

    Hi Jeff, at 11:01 when you were replicating the second backup job you narrated that you don't need encryption but you left it on the default "encryption" option instead of clicking "no encryption". I don't know if you caught this later on, but just a heads up. Thanks for your videos as always.

    • @KaneHusky
      @KaneHusky Před 3 lety +5

      Yep, I noticed that as well. D'oh!

    • @Scarsuna
      @Scarsuna Před 3 lety +4

      @@KaneHusky That was so he could show his wife the video for plausible deniability.

  • @matterhorn3684
    @matterhorn3684 Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you for all this great info! If I wanted to have my backup stored at another location, couldn’t I use this method? But I’d need to open a port on the backup server’s router and port forward to the truenas backup?

  • @Charlie8913
    @Charlie8913 Před 3 lety

    I also create pull-replication jobs on the backup server. Because doing a push from the main server would send a bunch of mails when the backup server is down, and mine is only powered on once a week. But make sure to monitor it regularly, because one could very easy overlook when the backup server is turned off (even accidentally) and thus not making any backups at all. And in your configuration when the backup server doesn't run for over a week you would need to fully replicate everything again because the latest snapshot on the backup server was already deleted on the main server and thus zfs can't calculate which data differs and shows an error about an unrelated dataset.

  • @Steamrick
    @Steamrick Před 3 lety

    Question, Jeff - what are you doing about bitrot on your replication? From my understanding what you have is the equivalent of a forever-incremental with no way of checking if the backup is actually in good condition. I do a fair bit of backups and when you start getting into 40+ TB, backups that don't spit out the right checksum start happening once in a while.

  • @Miphen0707
    @Miphen0707 Před 3 lety

    **** Hi Jeff. Would you please show a video of your maintenance on the HDD showing an error and how you received notification of the error such as an automated generated email or message? Thank you for all your videos.

  • @rgnissen202
    @rgnissen202 Před 3 lety +3

    I was really hoping that you were putting that nr12000 in a DC for an off-site backup

  • @KyleYoung101
    @KyleYoung101 Před 3 lety +1

    How loud is this chassis model when filled? like, comfortable to work next to, or ok to have in a storage closet, or is it relegated to garage only/need some proper noise protection during idle?

  • @gufpewga
    @gufpewga Před 3 lety

    I really would like to see your network setup, how do you separate your servers from normal PCs and other smart home appliances. I like your server setups and this would help me figure things out in my network.

  • @Graham_Rule
    @Graham_Rule Před 3 lety +4

    Did you turn off encryption for all your transfers? I think you might have missed out that step after the first one.

  • @digantakoner
    @digantakoner Před 3 lety

    Jeff your bar collection is fucking awesome.

  • @McTroyd
    @McTroyd Před 3 lety +1

    I use Duplicity, augmented by the "Duply" script, to Amazon S3 several states away from my house. That first upload definitely smarts -- our upload taps out at 10 MBits -- but it works well. (Edit: Duplicity uses GPG to encrypt the data, so make sure you have another copy of your key!!) If I were to set it up today, I'd probably use another service for storage, like Backblaze, or Wasabi. Not because S3 isn't fine, but because the Amazon monster really doesn't need more of my money.

  • @mrnix1001
    @mrnix1001 Před 3 lety

    I have a r710 as my local backup, then some USB HDs I store "critical" data on. Whenever I visit my mom I take the current ones and grab the ones I previously left with her. Then I have a B2 account that everything is backed up on ... pricey but I sleep better because of it. I'm only in the 12TB range right now so this wouldn't scale well but it works for me ... for now.

  • @mapesdhs597
    @mapesdhs597 Před 3 lety

    Jeff, do you ever make use of the Backblaze disk reliability data when deciding what disks to buy, or when making recommendations to others? If so, how do you interpret their data? After much pondering of options & pricing, I recently bought three Toshiba MG06ACA800E drives (8TB). One odd thing struck me though while looking at available products, namely how many "consumer" grade drives were actually more expensive than a great many Enterprise drives, inparticular the WD Black series as regards the former. Any idea why this situation has arisen? Seems rather strange that anyone would buy a consumer WD Black when even WD's own Enterprise range are often much cheaper. Is the Black really worth the premium over the WD Gold? Seems unlikely. I opted for the Toshibas though based on a combination of the BB data and pricing.
    The other thing I noticed was the degree of inconsistent buyer feedback for many products on sites like Amazon. Hard to discern what's really going on there.
    What I don't yet have is a firm idea of how to use them, so initially it'll just be a manual data dump with the disks shoved in external USB3 boxes. Then later on when I have time, a simple PC? A two or four bay NAS box? No idea yet. It's mainly just for archive & backup of my camera data, plus a 3rd for dumped DVDs, etc.

  • @WamocIsolda
    @WamocIsolda Před 3 lety

    If you use BackBlaze B2 to backup offsite, the price is pretty good, and to not use up your bandwidth for 3 years trying to create the initial backup they can send you a device that you copy the initial data to and they will then use their internal network (there is a separate charge for this, but it is a one-time cost for that). You can't beat the bandwidth of a UPS truck.

  • @monty00701
    @monty00701 Před 2 lety

    Great job on the videos Jeff! I picked up one of these servers after watching several of your videos. My question is: did you flash the onboard SAS2008 into IT mode before you built the TrueNas server? As far as I have been able to find, it come in IR mode. I haven't build my server yet - waiting for my CPU.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  Před 2 lety

      Yes, I flashed it just like you would an LSI PCIe card. Worked like a charm.

  • @Arachnoid_of_the_underverse

    Just a query you didnt mention any logging report, so does the system ping you if any back up fails for whatever reason or do you hope it faithfully works?
    Oh and the old question of how do you know the back ups are good, do you test them?

  • @headnut22
    @headnut22 Před rokem

    yeah, you got me already with the intro ;D

  • @Miphen0707
    @Miphen0707 Před 3 lety +1

    **** Jeff, sorry I forgot something. Perhaps you might like to discuss using Linode as your offsite backup strategy!

  • @lucasdealmeidacarotta3174

    Jeff, is there any way of getting in touch with someone at Starlink? Your 50 Mb up is your limiting factor as you pointed out... Maybe talking to them to show a use case of something like an external backup product showcase to someone interested in contracting their services.

  • @1leggeddog
    @1leggeddog Před 3 lety +19

    When you have shit internet speeds, then the best thing to do is simply to duplicate your backup server onto a remote location and just upload the snapshot differences during the night

    • @mormantu8561
      @mormantu8561 Před 3 lety +4

      That's also what I am doing. First upload took a while but now my off site backups are safe in Norway :p

    •  Před 3 lety +3

      Or If you have physical access the offsite location and server, you make the first "big" replication on your local LAN, then move the server to the intended location and then start copying snapshots during the night xD

    • @randallsmith2521
      @randallsmith2521 Před 3 lety +1

      I'm thinking that Backblaze offers that as an option for the initial backup.

  • @Ak1z
    @Ak1z Před 3 lety +2

    When the youtuber has more expensive equipment, redundancy and data integrity , than the public sector organization i work for

  • @bjornm.3897
    @bjornm.3897 Před 3 lety +1

    I do it the same way here at home. My one Proxmox server is backing up to my main FreeNAS server and that one is doing a replication to my backup FreeNAS server. Both FreeNAS server are using raidz1 pools so only after the 3rd drive fails I loose data. Because the Proxmox and main FreeNAS servers already use 60$ electricity per month I wrote a script that uses IPMI and the FreeNAS API to do the backup. Once a week the script boots up the backup NAS using IPMI, unlocks the encrypted pools, waits until all replication and scrub tasks are finished and shuts down the backup NAS again. That way the backup NAS only needs to run for 1-2 hours per week (or 20 hours if the monthly scrub is also running) and beside the electricity bill the drives should last longer.

  • @maynardcrow6447
    @maynardcrow6447 Před 3 lety +1

    JEFF PLEASE HELP! I bought the chenbro nr12000 from watching your videos. Which thank you for the recommendation it's practically brand new. But I bought SAS drives knowing the motherboard supports SAS and I knew SAS has a different protocol but didnt realize they have different connectors. Will sata to SAS adaptors work that you know of or do have to get sata drives? Good video as always. Tech yes Brian got me back into pc gaming but you've introduced me to the ENTERPRISE.

  • @eDoc2020
    @eDoc2020 Před 3 lety

    Suggestion: if you have friends with their own large NASes perhaps they could be your offsite backup and vice versa. It would be mutually beneficial but it wouldn't really address the problem of your slow uplink.

  • @jjws600
    @jjws600 Před 3 lety

    Hey Jeff, why do you use VM's instead of LXC containers for some things (Like Pi-Hole) that could be used in an LXC very easily (like i have)?

  • @TheSinzia
    @TheSinzia Před 3 lety

    Hey Jeff, what ram did you use? I've tried a few UDIMMs I've had around and the NR-1200 just doesn't like any of them... I'd like to max out the server cause why not?

  • @wokthedragon
    @wokthedragon Před 3 lety

    I only subscribed for the drinks until this video. I have a 48TB TrueNAS Dell R720dx. I'm planning to build another similar system to install at my son's house. He has 1Gb eithernet . I will have 1Gb soon. I'm planning to connect via Wireguard. The Snapshot scheme sounds promising for backing up.

    • @jeffherdzina6716
      @jeffherdzina6716 Před 3 lety

      Pfsense just removed Wireguard due to critical security issues. You might wanna wait on Wireguard.

  • @TheHoffVlogs
    @TheHoffVlogs Před 3 lety

    Can you post the listing for the ram upgrade? I've been wanting to upgrade mine since I bought it a few months back, but not sure what I can put into it.

  • @tech_mad_lad
    @tech_mad_lad Před 2 lety

    How did you configure the P2P part, everytime i try on my 2 TrueNAS boxes it craps itself (when linking with a cable between them) your help is appreciated ,and as always your videos are awesome 🙂

  • @JerimiahMayle
    @JerimiahMayle Před 3 lety

    Silly question, can you go over some of the virtualization things in TrueNAS, I'm very curios about it but don't have the hardware for it yet.

  • @msthalamus2172
    @msthalamus2172 Před 3 lety

    Have you thought about storing some of the data offline? (Especially old videos.) SSDs are cheap enough now that I treat them the way I did floppies 30 years ago. I use an IcyDock and have the SATA ports set as hot swappable so I can easily stick an SSD into the dock, drop some files on it, then pull it back out again and toss it on my shelf. Just a thought. :)

  • @renhoeknl
    @renhoeknl Před 3 lety

    Once your backup is complete, take it out of the rack an drive it to a nearby datacenter for them to host it. In case of fire or such.

  • @dtmbmw325i
    @dtmbmw325i Před 2 lety

    Liked and subbed to fund your offsite backup 😆

  • @Tech_for_the_busy_Exec

    Can you please add details on the RAM kit you purchased for this server

  • @juanmartinez-ui6jk
    @juanmartinez-ui6jk Před 3 lety

    which 10gb Network card you recommend for trueNAS, thanks I love your videos

  • @SycsFinest
    @SycsFinest Před 3 lety

    Damn, I really need to do this. Snapshots seem so easy for backups.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  Před 3 lety +6

      Snapshots are incredible for more than just backups. If you ever get ransomware'd, one click brings every file back. Pretty freaking cool.

  • @MrWhereIsYourGodNow
    @MrWhereIsYourGodNow Před 3 lety +4

    I think he really likes the Defiant ship design... :=)

  • @joeschwartz9569
    @joeschwartz9569 Před rokem +1

    I just came across you video. My setup is similar with a direct connection 10Gig card in server and backup. I've been unable to create a push replication task but pull works. The ssh connection gives an error of connection refused. Is there any reason I can't create the ssh connection in a push?

  • @tebbenjo
    @tebbenjo Před 3 lety

    Would you consider using LTO tapes for the second storage medium and offsite part of 321? I'd love to see proper setup and use of an old ebay LTO tapedrive

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  Před 3 lety +1

      I've seriously considered getting an LTO 3 or 4 drive for disaster recovery backups.

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 Před 3 lety

    I have something set up basically the same way you have, though the backup server is in a different building so it cant be direct connected. The backup server was supposed to be the primary server, i was going to do one full replication to the new all flash server, then swap them. But for some reason no matter what i do, the pools seem to be read only, even if i remove the replication tasks, and set permissions recursively afterwards I've even reinstalled trunas and destroyed the array and reconfigured ther replication. I need to just bite the bullet, use the RAID0 working pool on my workstation for the backup and re-configure my arrays on the new server and do a manual copy of everything.

  • @mattthompson9878
    @mattthompson9878 Před 5 měsíci

    I have a synology backed up with a truenas server. I have the synology hyperbackup pushing a back up to the true nas server. This has the advantage of versioning. I too use the synology to backup by proxmox VM's/Containers. But, what to do you use to back up your proxmox server itself? Do you backup the host OS? Or, do you use a CRON job and script to back up the configuration only (i.e. the /etc/* folder)? I really wish that the proxmox backup server would allow me to save backups directly to my synology share... but that is not an option at the moment. What are your thoughts?

  • @UntouchedWagons
    @UntouchedWagons Před 3 lety

    I use Duplicati on my NAS to backup stuff like music, pictures, etc to opendrive. I want to backup some of the videos I've got in my plex collection but I don't consider cloud storage to be practical cost-wise.

  • @MarekBartovic
    @MarekBartovic Před 3 lety

    Defiant all the way!

  • @dimitristsoutsouras2712

    2.54 I was browsing via your videos trying to find the appropriate one to ask (since I ll be needing this method for a similar task). When you setup proxmox initially, do you need to assign for the management of proxmox the 10gbe port in order for backups to use this road instead of assigning a plain 1gbe port? Cant it be setup afterwards from proxmox's gui? What I mean is to use a 1gbe connection to access the gui and then afterwards to force proxmox to use the 10gbe road to transfer Vm backups from itself to the remote nas (also a 10gbe connection)
    I have setup proxmox many times but this will be the first time that I ll have access to a 10gbe card and I LL be needing it in order to send proxmox vm backups to a remote TrueNas server (virtualized in another proxmox and not native machine. Instead of passing through the card which has 2x10gbe ports, I think ill create a vmbr on one of those ports and then assign TrueNas VM connection to that port during installation).
    8.48 The private key generated aren t you supposed to paste it to the other server? Is this an RSA key or you can specify other type of keys as well?

  • @NicolaiSyvertsen
    @NicolaiSyvertsen Před 2 lety

    When is the Rsync Task going to get support for the integrated SSH Keys and SSH Connections? Having to generate keys on the shell for this is really inelegant.

  • @vollhorst140
    @vollhorst140 Před 3 lety

    Hey Jeff, I really like the sever videos even if I have no clue what you are talking about most of the time.
    I would really like some videos about easier nas os’s like omv or rockstore, maybe a comparison.

    • @Scarsuna
      @Scarsuna Před 3 lety

      The great thing about CZcams is you can rewind the part you don't understand and take notes. Use that as a basis for researching what you need to learn more about.

  • @kkpdk
    @kkpdk Před 3 lety

    I run 321, with non redundant disk sets, on a ~20TB dataset, and low bandwidth. The main server has good hardware and good quality disks but no redundancy. Second, there's a 486-looking beige box in an outbuilding stuffed full of older drives, also non-redundant. That machine wakes up on schedule, rsyncs data off of the main server over a 50Mbps wireless link, and shuts itself down. Third, there is a machine in a colo doing the same. To complicate it slightly, I have had machines stolen, and so I run (and did run) encrypted drives. As a minimum, I have the machines pull the keys from an unrelated server where I can delete them.

  • @emilberkhahn4504
    @emilberkhahn4504 Před 3 lety

    Hey, I really like your videos. But one question, could test one of these bga to lga laptop cpu's from aliexpress. I thought that these provide really good performance for what u pay and on paper they look really efficient.

  • @Subliminal3117
    @Subliminal3117 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Can you explain further? 1:56 .
    Why are 3tb hdd's unreliable?
    I've just had a second HDD fail since 2017, and would like to know why :)

  • @superbrain3848
    @superbrain3848 Před 3 lety +1

    i dont have this much important data, so i have just a Cloud Sync task to a Google Drive that runs once a week, since i have currently only 34GB of data to backup it works for me.

  • @keremakyar6056
    @keremakyar6056 Před 3 lety

    I have 1 Synology DS720+ that im using for backups with active backup for business to backup al my desktops/notebooks, and i have a Synology DS418 for the data. For that im using hyper backup to the DS720+

  • @ScottFromIT
    @ScottFromIT Před rokem

    Would you use something similar in an enterprise solution?