TRIP REPORT | ÖBB Nightjet | Double-decker DELUXE SLEEPER | Vienna to Zurich | First class suite
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
- I travelled aboard ÖBB Nightjet double decker sleeper, connecting Austria and Switzerland. I have booked Deluxe sleeper cabin with en-suite bathroom. This route also runs along the Alps.
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DETAILS:
Railway company: ÖBB
Train number: NJ 466
Category: Nightjet Sleeper train
Route: Wien Hbf - Zürich HB
Duration: 13h17m
Class: Deluxe
Coach / Berth: 307 / 111
Train type: Loco hauled train
Train composition (Vienna portion):
Class 1116 Taurus (Siemens ES64U2) locomotive
Coaches: 1x WLABmz Comfortline (sleeper), 1x WLABmz double-decker sleeper, 1x Bbcmvz Couchette, 1x Bcmz Couchette, 2x Bmz 2nd class seating car, 1x Apm 1st class seating car
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0:00 Intro and Wien Hbf
1:20 Lounge
3:31 Train arrival and preview
5:28 Boarding
7:08 Departure
8:33 Compartment tour
16:57 Look around the train
21:58 Salzburg stopover
23:12 Morning, the Alps
24:43 Feldkirch - Buchs
25:50 Breakfast
26:36 Summary
29:28 Zürich HB - Train composition
Fun fact that you did not mention, but between Feldkirch and Buchs you also travel through the tiny state of Liechtenstein. The train has no stops there but you were in 3 countries during this voyage 🙂.
I know about it, but I forgot to mention it. Thanks for the reminder. I think this train usually go through even 4 countries, because part of the line still run through Germany, but we took a diversion route through Zell am See.
@@PeteBrandy The normal German Part would go from Kufstein, Oberaudorf and over the "Rosenheimer Kurve" and back to Austria
My to the point assessment...this video was 100% EXCELLENT...in every manner. I was watching as I worked out on an elliptical at the fitness center and I was so entertained by your video, I didn't even realize 30 minutes had passed. What a joy this was to watch. Great job!
Thanks so much for watching! The fitness center is a really interesting place to watch a video like this :-D Greetings :-)
In the 60is and 70is a lot of folk took overnight trains , and used sleepers and couchettes. For a single traveller {who did not drive} it was a very practical and comfortable way of travelling.
Very interesting report. Keep it up !!
Thanks for watching! I'm glad that night trains are coming back to be popular :-)
@@PeteBrandy I don t really think that the night trains are coming back to be popular at all. This is just a general marketing over the EU trying to move people from their cars to trains. An somehow a today propaganda as this subject is imeddiately pushed up by the CZcams algorithm.
by the way, why are you calling it as DELUXE? there nothing compatible with DELUXE in the video, just regular night sleeping train standard since the 70s.
DELUXE = luxurious or sumptuous; of a superior kind.
Really enjoyed the train ride, thanks for taking me with you.
Thank you so much for watching :-)
I've been on the night train from Budapest to Zürich in May. We had a mishap in the Alps (Muhrenabgang near Ötztal) and had to switch to busses between two stations early in the morning but it was handled very professionally, and since the weather was nice and I had no connection to make, I enjoyed the enhanced immersion into the scenic Vorarlberg landscape.
This was an elegant train ride with spectacular views from the windows. I really enjoyed this video.
Thanks so much for watching! Yes, it was, especially when I woke up with a view of the amazing scenery of the Alps :-)
Dear Pete, what a great trip and what a great video. Thank you very much for that. The moment you opened the rollos and saw the snow and mountains is so beautiful. Also this video is really an inspiration for us. The ÖBB Nightjet really makes a very good impression and my wife and I will definitely do this tour as well. Thanks again!
Thanks so much! It was the same surprise for me when I woke up. It was the first time I saw the Alps this close, before it was always only from an airplane.
Thanks for the smooth ride
30 minutes of video. Thank you :D
Thanks so much! Yes, a bit longer than usual :-D
Excellent video Pete!! Congratulation!
Very detailed description. This route and train is the masterclass of night trains. Carriages from different country connected to join one of the hub of European railways. THIS is night train! Looking forward enjoying other night train reports!😃👍🏻
Thanks so much Philipp! Another video with departure from your home city :-) Yes, I agree, the masterclass of night trains!
Fantastic video ❤👍😁😄😄😉👋👋
Excellent report
Thanks so much :-)
I love trains, especially sleeper trains and since I no longer travel, i subscribed here to enjoy your videos!😊
Thanks for the video. Well done.
Thanks so much for watching! :-)
I just booked my ticket on a solo sleeper with a shower and bathroom. I'm taking it from Vienna to Zurich in June.
Thanks for the clip.I already miss Nightjet :)
Thanks so much for watching! :-)
OBB had a decent lounge in Innsbruck. They even had free beer. It was pretty cool
I've never been there, I will try when I will visit Innsbruck :-)
Beautiful ride.
Thanks for watching! :-)
Ahoj Pete ✋✋✋ Another fantastic trip report from Amazing Vienna ( I've been here few years later ) to Zurich. Railway Station and train look super. This Taurus ( Siemens ) called Husarz in Poland I really enjoyed watching this video 👍👍👍 Greetings from Poland
Część Piotrek :-) Thank you som much! Yes, I know, In Poland they are called Husarz and they are 3-voltage, Taurus 1116s are only for 25kV and 15 kV / 16,7 Hz. Greetings from Prague :-)
2023 Comes Brand New öbb nightjet Hey men your smile is good and so nice good Travel I like it your flight report
Great report, mate! It stood out how silent and smooth your car was running. Also loved the morning footages in the Alps. :D
Thanks so much for watching! Morning ride through the Alps was my favorite part of this journey :-) Greetings from Prague :-)
The Alps are impressive.
Very nice and interesting video!!
Thank you so much!
very good!!
Thank you :-)
Nádherné video a propracované do nejmenšího detailu 😃👌👌
Díky moc za komentář, vážím si toho :-)
Krásné video
Díky moc :-)
Skvělý video 👍
Díky moc! :-)
super video, len tak ďalej
Děkuji moc :-)
Ten patrový lůžkový vůz vypadal zajímavě, škoda že tam byla jen jedna zásuvka a to ještě v koupelně. A ten výhled na Alpy byl nádherný. Díky za další pěkné video :)
Díky moc! Ten vůz je opravdu zajímavý, počet a rozmístění zásuvek bohužel odpovídá době jeho vzniku (rok 1995), lůžkové vozy Siemens které mají ČD jsou na tom podobně, jedna zásuvka v koupelně a jedna dole u postele a ZSSK WLABmee jen jedna zásuvka ve skříňce nad umyvadlem.. Ale věřím že až ÖBB obdrží nové Nightjet jednotky, tak bude mít více prostoru na upgrade těch starších :-)
Dass war ein sehr schönes Video muss ich sagen
Vielen Dank! :-)
Super video! Amenity kit a malý sekt taková drobná pozornost a přitom se hned cestující cítí líp.
Díky! Ano, maličkosti které utváří následný pozitivní dojem z cesty :-)
Na takéto videá veľmi rád pozerám. Som rád, že na youtube existujú aj seriózni tvorcovia a nie len tí blázniví, čo majú vyložene detské publikum. Pre mňa, tridsiatnika, sú tvoje videá balzám na dušu. Ďakujem
Mockrát děkuji! Já se to snažím pojmout spíše jako cestovní průvodce pro lidi co bytím eventuelně někdy chtěli jet, takže to dávám chronologicky z pohledu cestujících bez zbytečných komedií kolem. A tomu i odpovídá cílovka, věková skupina kolem 30 je dle mých statistik největší část mého publika :-)
I think that your trains need more comfort and also the snacks are so poor, I can imagine myself traveling under these circumstances, but anyway this is Europe. Good lock and enjoy, regards guys.
Bonjour Pete pour votre excellente vidéo Ferroviaire entre Wien et Zürich 🇦🇹🇨🇭. C'était génial de pouvoir tout partager avec vous. Merci beaucoup pour tout ces renseignements . Moi je viens de rentrer d'un voyage en train de 8 jours dont Wien à Innsbruck et Innsbruck à Zürich mais en Railjet. Mais de Paris je n'ai pas pu avoir un nighjet avec couchettes. Je me suis abonné à votre chaîne youtube. Mes meilleures salutations de Normandie 👋.
👍📽️🤩🤩🚅🚃🚃🤝😀
Merci beaucoup :-) I think your Railjet trip was great too, Railjets are my favorite trains. Nightjet trains to Paris are very difficult to book, they are often sold out well in advance. J'envoie des salutations de Prague (République tchèque).
The double decker trains are just so amazing. Shame that the UK doesn’t have them except having double decker buses. Very nice journey. 😊
Thanks so much! Yes, it is very interesting that there are no double-decker trains in the UK, they are very common in continental Europe. Btw. these double-decker sleeping cars are very rare, only 10 of these cars are in service (Zurich - Vienna and Zurich Hamburg). But in Finland, for example, there are mostly double-decker sleeping cars.
I once got stuck on a sleeper for 29 hours on a 10 hour trip. Was luxury!
Such a situation can also happen, but it also happens with other types of transport.. A similar situation happened to me in aviation, when we had to wait 12 hours for a replacement aircraft due to an aircraft malfunction.
Palec na horu👍✌️♥️
Díky moc :-)
Dost dobré, taky bych chtěl jet nočním vlakem. Jde vidět, že ÖBB to mají vážně na úrovni 👍
Myslím, že toto video by mohlo mít úspěch
Díky, snad to video bude mít úspěch. To ano, ÖBB to mají celkem vychytané ty služby, ale ČD night také není špatný.
This looks even better a double decker Sleeping coach its way better than the new NJ my opinion
Here it depends whether you have an upper deck cabin or a lower deck cabin, the lower deck cabins are not very comfortable, but the deluxe cabins on the upper deck are great. Overall, this was my best night train journey so far :-)
skvele videjko
Díky moc! :-)
Nice report! Travelled in the exact same coach and cabin (307, cabin 111) a couple of weeks ago! It was mostly a smooth and enjoyable journey, except for a small section near the Arlberg pass where our cabin had a leak when it was raining outside. Wonder if that's why they took one of the double decker sleeper coaches out of service haha
Thanks so much! I think cabin 111 is the best cabin in case of position in the carriage. Btw. I had the same problem with water dripping from the panoramic window when was raining :-D I would also be interested in why the second of the double-decker cars missed, but I was returning with the same set in the evening (but on a direct ČD car to Prague) and there were already two double-decker cars in this set.
I see you did this trip in the coldest months as it give you the opportunity to get your information on this type of train journey being the off season, but still enjoyable. Or though I like to travel during the day because I like to see the scenery.
Traveling during off season has its advantages, the trains tend to be less crowded and, moreover, it's not so difficult to book a deluxe cabin on this train. In 2022 I tried to book this compartment but it was still sold out. Yes, the day trains are good for the window views, but there is not so much quiet :-)
VERY VERY NICE YESS🥰🥰❤💥💥👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌👌THANK YOU VIDEO BYE
Thank you :-)
Of all the sleeping cars I have slept on in Europe, I think these are by far the most quiet, especially on the upper deck. You barely notice when the train starts moving.
Yes, I think the same. They are also much quieter than Siemens Comfortline sleeping cars.
👏 interesting journey coverage ! Didn't you notice this weird fact: on the train formation display in Vienna (min3:31) just the first class coach is announced to reach Zurich ))
Thanks for watching! I was also surprised by the information about the destination on the information board :-D
keren bang
Pete you were so lucky, that you tried NightJet sleeper in 2023. I checked prices today and in new schedule prices jump so high, they are more than doubled... Single is around 400 euro, but Single deluxe more than 500 euros. Even cheapest triple is more than 100 euros. Too expensive for Central Europeans budgets :/
I also checked the prices for bed supplements and these really have gone up, I hope this is just a bug in the reservation system, because otherwise this price is quite uncompetitive.
1999 i drive with this wagon from Dresden to Zürich ..... the name of the train .... *CITY NIGHT LINE* (CNL)
These are the same cars, I think ÖBB leased them from CityNightLine.
I wonder. Are those types of electric razors, which use those special sockets(that i saw in every train i was on) still being made or used?
Another good report Pete, seems like a good deal when you factor in the price of a hotel and the cost of the journey, have you any idea how good the sound proofing is in the cabins I’m working hard on my wife to take the nightjet hopefully the one to Hamburg from Vienna or vice versa but she’s worried about noisy neighbours, really enjoy your reports you’re inspiring me to start my travels again
Thanks so much! I calculate it the same way, the hotel + the flight ticket would be more expensive :-) As for the sound proofing, it depends a lot on the type of sleeping car, the worst are the cars that have interconnecting doors between compartments, through which you can hear every word... which are, for example, WLABmz comfortline cars.. here it is good to take a Deluxe cabin because there is also a bathroom between the compartments. But a lot also depends on the composition of the passengers. However, I always use earplugs when traveling on night trains :-)
Super report :) tyhle vozy, tehdy ještě v nátěru CNL a pak DB, mě už od dětství hrozně fascinovaly asi tou mohutností a netypickým uspořádáním :)
Díky moc! Pro mě byl tento vůz dlouho na mém bucket listu a trvalo mi celkem dlouho, než se mi povedlo booknout Single Deluxe :-) Škoda, že se jich nevyrobilo více.. ale někde jsem zahlédl info, že se stejnými typy vozů má začít jezdit jeden dopravce na Slovensku, tak snad to vyjde.
good quality material. can you make a video with the best train operators in your opinion, considering like the comfort of travel, food served, time travel, route itself etc. Since you travelled almost all of them here in Europe🙂 I think it'd be interesting to watch. cheers
Thanks so much! Is sounds as a good idea :-) I still have to try a few trains that I have planned, so maybe I could make a special video at the end of the year :-)
Excellent video as always. The room looks fantastic but I wouldn't expect anything less from OEBB. Not sure my wallet could afford even a day in Zuerich though! :D
Thanks so much! I think I'm in a similar situation, I just walked around the center of Zurich and then in the evening I left by another train abroad :-D
@@PeteBrandy I've heard horror stories of a pizza costing 50 CHF and that was 10 years ago so I can only imagine what it's like now! O_O
Es würde mich sehr freuen den nightjet mal selber zu fahren aber wenn die Leute von TSW4 das noch nicht entwickelt haben möchte ich wissen wann dieser Zug freigeschaltet wird ich hab ihn nämlich gekauft im Store
In deluxe these cars are wonderful. Economy compartments are only half the size though (ok for a single traveller but very restricted for two), and unlike the WLABmz Comfortline there's no public shower.
By the way if you travel in the Hungarian sleeping-car from Budapest the ride is shorter, you don't have such a long stopover in Salzburg. The train departs later from Vienna or arrives earlier in the morning in the other direction. But the MÁV sleeping-cars have no deluxe compartments and, according to my sister, are a bit noisy/squeaky at night.
Thanks for watching! Yes, standard (economy) compartments are a bit tiny, but also good when you travel alone. Yes, Hungarian "EN Kalmán Imre" portion has shorter ride time. I tried these Hungarian sleeping cars on the EN Metropol from Budapest to Berlin in 2022 and as you told, they are a bit noisy (I also have a video here).
The car looks like it's probably spent most of its life in storage and is in need of an overhaul or complete rebuild.
On the other hand the price was excellent and there is some very nice scenery,Is there anything more comfortable on a cold rainy day than a nice warm sleeping car?
Yes, these cars correspond to the time of their production and they already need a modernisation. But in my opinion, they are still one of the most comfortable sleeping cars (as for the deluxe cabins on the upper deck).
Yeah the single occupancy compartments are ok-ish on these double deckers but I don’t wish anybody travel in 2- or even 3-berth ones. I was forced to travel in a double once and being 1.9 m tall + a regular suitcase was a total nightmare, not a nightjet.
I seriously can’t imagine how ppl can travel in the 3-berth tuna cans. The regular single-decker compartments are way more spacious.
Do you buy tickets from the box office or the machine? Can you write in detail
I've replayed the scene of the train backing into Vienna station several times but I don't see the double decker. Are the upper windows on the other side of the platform?
It is the second car from the back (in Vienna), this double decker car has 2 rows of windows above each other on the side where the cabins are, but on the side where is the aisle there is only one row of windows, from the other side this car can be seen after arriving in Zurich
Where do you store your luggage? :)
Hi Peter do you have to book both beds as a solo traveller or do you automatically get the compartment to yourself
Hi. Yes, you can book a whole compartment for yourself. There are 3 choices when you book your journey in sleeping car: Single (a whole compartment for you), Double (one bed in shared 2-bed compartment) or Triple (one bed in shared 3-bed compartment).
O yes ja uz se s nim nekdy musim svezt, ja jel jenom jednopatrovym z linze do benatek
To musíš, je to úplně jiný zážitek než v klasickém sleeper, ty jednopatrové "Comfortline" WLABmz jsou stejné jako mají ČD
@@PeteBrandy ja jel Bmzetem
Which would be the cheapest night sleeper in Europe?
Are the blinding bright lights ever dimmed in the night coaches?
do you mean on
outside of the compartments? if so, no, they remain bright
Was their a dining car ,or any capacity to get an evening meal?
There is no dining car on this train, but you can purchase some refreshments from the sleeping car attendant.
Ten vůz vypadá skvěle, ale jak si psal, chtělo by to Wi-FI, víc zásuvek a bylo by to dokonalé :D
To ano, ty vozy jsou skvělé, ale co se týče zásuvek a Wi-Fi, tak jsou poplatné době svého vzniku, což asi vyřeší nějaká rekonstrukce. Při té poslední se tuším akorát dávaly jiné podvozky, ale vybavení se neupgradovalo.
Deluxe sleeper for solo occupancy. I like your thinking. 🙌
Seems like a great way to travel in Europe. Keen to try one day. 😃
And to wake up with that view. 🏔️😍
Thanks for watching! In my opinion, one of the best ways to travel around Europe. I haven't needed a hotel in 3 years :-)
@@PeteBrandy Wow. Impressive! 😮
@@PeteBrandy I remember an interrail trip towards Scandinavia: Didn't slept in a hotel/hostel during four nights in a row between the hostel beds in Hamburg and Turku ... The first part was planed - due to a journey through very pricey Norway(Hamburg-Fehmarn-Helsingor/-borg-Oslo-Stavanger-Preikestolen-Oslo-Stockholm) ... the second part caused by a music band called Metallica - they managed to tour in Stockholm and two nights later in Helsinki(me:Stockholm-Boden-Haparanda-Tornio-Kemi-Helsinki-Turku) - hence, no budget accomodation available anymore ...
!Though: had a cheap sleeper bed supplement between Kemi/Oulu and Helsinki - beside that, everything in seating accomodation ...
As you announce another film about a connection from Zurich (...towards Praque via Linz or Leipzig), I assume you also skip the not exactly cheap swiss accomodations ;)
Did Travel on one of these cars I was on the last cabin
Nice :-)
How do you know if you're seat is a deluxe cabin? It's not indicated in the ticket.
If you have ÖBB ticket, there is written: “… mit Dusche & WC”
Why don’t you fix the wind noise?
Why do they have tap water if its not potable
Some fantastic scenery however my perception was the cabin looked grubby. Is that unfair? And no Internet?
These cars correspond to the time of their production, including facilities (power sockets, Wi-Fi). I hope they will be modernised sometime.. But I think they are still one of the best products on the market.
It's there really only one power point, a shaver socket in the WC? That's not good ...
That is a sensational price for the Deluxue Sleeper! In 1998 I paid £199 one way from London to Edinburgh. I just remember the coffee in the morning was served in a pot and it was HOT!! It's strange about the wi-fi and lack of power outlets.
Yes, the price was great, I had a luck to still catch the promo fare (Sparschiene), otherwise the tickets are more expensive on this route.. The missing Wi-Fi and lack of power outlets corresponds to the year of production of these cars, I hope that after the new Nightjet units will be delivered (the Railjet based ones), so they will have time to upgrade these cars :-)
SGP Graz went out of business in 1989 and how did the coach came out on 1995?
I don’t know how, but I have old CityCightLine “Hotelzug” leaflet from the 1990s and there is an info about entry to service in May 1995 and also there are named SGP Verkehrstechnik, Waggonfabrik Talbot and Schindler Waggon AG
@@PeteBrandy does this mean SGP is in business again?
@@denismitvan2080 Some production was subsequently taken over by Siemens, but for example first series of ÖBB Dosto carriages were also produced in SGP, according to information from my friends from nearby, SGPs were still operated till 2000
@@PeteBrandy i wish SGP came back, I like their trains
I love Vienna last year ago I’m living in Vienna tower stay at 2010 Vienna well maybe I go too more again
I go too a zoo in Vienna garden of zoo world well well
this looked like a comfortable and scenic journey but lacking in amenities like WIFI and a snack bar where you could meet other travellers
Yes, these carriages are still in a condition corresponding to the time of their production. New sleeping cars tend to have better equipment. Unfortunately, only few night trains now have a restaurant or bistro car.
Luxury problem! Just take the regular sleeper cabin like normal folk and you'll meet a random assortment of other travellers
why would anyone put themselves through the nonsense of flying these days when this option is available
I think the main reason is the small capacity of night trains, they are often sold out a months in advance. I hope the situation will improve after the new Nightjet units will bedelivered.
Tak to mu říkám luxusní spací vůz, to by měl vidět Jančura s jeho tragickým vozovým parkem, co se týče spacích vozů
Tak to se nedá vůbec srovnat, ÖBB má také stejné typy vozů co má RegioJet, ale provozuje je jako lehátkové tak jak to má být :-D