Electric vs. Mechanical - Which Drivetrain Do You Run?

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  • čas přidán 13. 02. 2023
  • They both have their pros and cons, but we want to hear what you are running! Mechanical or electrified drivetrain on your MTB? Let us know in the comments!
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  • @stemcd7389
    @stemcd7389 Před rokem +7882

    Mechanical, always. Part of the beauty of cycling for me is that everything is mechanical. No reliance on any power/fuel source. Just you and the bike.

    • @lesterroberts1628
      @lesterroberts1628 Před rokem +228

      Except for my headlights

    • @iMadrid11
      @iMadrid11 Před rokem +311

      @@lesterroberts1628 You can power your headlights too mechanically with a dynamo hub. Even charge your cellphone too when paired with a USB inverter.

    • @panzerveps
      @panzerveps Před rokem +68

      I love di2.
      Perfect shifts every single time. I've snapped more gear cables than I've ran out of battery.
      My next road bike will 100% have electronic shifting. Not so sure on my mtb and CX.

    • @stemcd7389
      @stemcd7389 Před rokem +96

      @@panzerveps each to there own. Shifting has never been a problem for me. And never snapped a cable in 20 years of mountain biking. But could easily carry a spare cable, which would last at longer than carrying a spare battery. But it all comes down to personal preference. It suits your needs so ride and enjoy.

    • @mastermaster153
      @mastermaster153 Před rokem +6

      Yeah

  • @apair4002
    @apair4002 Před rokem +1710

    If you are not national & international racer, you can have the most latest expensive technology but still got dropped out by that Sora/105 mech guy.

    • @BartAppleseed
      @BartAppleseed Před rokem +1

      Wdym? Rly 😅

    • @bikingchupei2447
      @bikingchupei2447 Před rokem +29

      and that Sora/105 mech guy will lose to the guy who is the same level as him but uses the latest expensive technology.

    • @apair4002
      @apair4002 Před rokem +46

      @@bikingchupei2447 Nahh. We talk about gs. Even duraace wheels only 10s faster than entry level wheels that come with bike purchase. If we use 1000usd wheels is more than enough such Winspace.
      You said you are with top gs & beat that sora/105 mech guy everytime, OBVIOUSLY you are STRONGER than him, not same level.
      Same case like me, my friend bike 6000usd, he stronger than me with 2500usd, after a while, I am beat him all the time. Either flat or climb.
      Give you another example, you said you can beat that that sora/105 mech guy, let the sora/105 gs guy use 700usd OSPW and you use standard ultegra pulley wheels, I bet obviously you still can beat him.
      Exclude national/international/pros rider, most of us have huge gap of performance. Even top 10 world pros have huge performance gap with the rest of world's pros. The variation of performance are huge between all of us. Your physical & training is the most important thing.

    • @apair4002
      @apair4002 Před rokem +1

      @@Alimukz Newest tech is new expensive electro groupset. My statement above is 105 mech. Huge different between price.

    • @bikingchupei2447
      @bikingchupei2447 Před rokem +4

      @@apair4002 i said "same level", if thats too hard to understand, how about this, he will lose to "himself" if he choses to use the latest expensive technology.

  • @xavierhulbert5849
    @xavierhulbert5849 Před rokem +472

    Oh man, rest of the group is getting some speed. Time to downshift **squeaksqueaksqueaksqueaksqueak**

    • @Rufus_Pufus
      @Rufus_Pufus Před rokem +4

      What the person is not doing - maybe doesn’t have it configured - is holding it down continually. You can set it to shift a max number of times, like a burst, or have it not stop; that not stopping means you can go through the entire cassette in a couple seconds.

    • @asod187
      @asod187 Před rokem +7

      @@Rufus_Pufus so can I with my mechanic derailleur 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @NaddlyC
      @NaddlyC Před rokem +3

      @@asod187 the entire cassette just holding? And that's up and down shifting

    • @john_john_john
      @john_john_john Před rokem +5

      @@NaddlyC you're right, it's really worth the extra money and hassle with batteries to go from 1st to 12nd gear by holding a finger for some reason.

    • @NaddlyC
      @NaddlyC Před rokem +3

      @@john_john_john if it was only that, but there's more advantages

  • @michaelwilliamlazo233
    @michaelwilliamlazo233 Před rokem +861

    I appreciate the speed electric shifts with...but I neither compete for the latest, nor in races. There are excellent mechanical drivetrains for the regular Joe.

    • @discbrakefan
      @discbrakefan Před rokem +9

      Electric means less maintenance, no cables to gum up, wear or break. It’s probably more suited to the average joe (bar the cost…)

    • @TimEckel
      @TimEckel Před rokem +28

      ​@@discbrakefan I've seen a lot more failures due to the battery, wires and motors compared to mechanical drive chains. Shifting speed is a non-issue in my opinion.

    • @overPowerPenguin
      @overPowerPenguin Před rokem +17

      @@discbrakefan If is that hard to do simple maintenance, as lube, clean, adjust and in some little cases, change a cable, which is in total like 10-15 minutes job, maybe joe should reconsider riding a bike with derailleur.

    • @JaiJai71104
      @JaiJai71104 Před rokem +3

      @Tim this is just nonsense. There are failures with every type of drivetrain .To suggest there is more with electronic groups is just something you've made up to suit your narrative .
      Battery's not being charged is a user error not the battery

    • @TimEckel
      @TimEckel Před rokem +6

      @@JaiJai71104 I've just seen a lot of electric shifting systems fail over the years, and much more frequently than mechanical. Other than ease of installation (which I don't care about) I see no advantage. The battery failures were not due to not being charged. Also, I mention other failures I've seen on rides, it's not just the batteries.

  • @rogerd9405
    @rogerd9405 Před rokem +2509

    Mechanical. Keep it simple.
    Just last weekend, my buddy's battery was dead before we even started. I just turned to my bike and clicked my gears and said, "Hmm... that's odd. Mine works just fine".

    • @shoeonhead
      @shoeonhead Před rokem +62

      That’s weird, I have 3 batteries always charged and an extra entire derailleur cage in my downtube storage. Cables too and you can still bend your hanger on a trail. Saw it every day at the shop for years!

    • @statosphereonline2008
      @statosphereonline2008 Před rokem +89

      @@shoeonhead as cool as electronic is you could just ditch all those extras and run a mechanical groupset and be absolutely fine and ride just as well.

    • @rogerd9405
      @rogerd9405 Před rokem +21

      @shoeonhead and so?... Your argument is that running around with a bunch of spare crap is better? I've never had a Sram derailleur cable break. The only time I've had a cable break is with Shimano derailleurs, and since they've never fixed the angle of the cable exiting the cable housing boss, I haven't ran Shimano derailleur since 2002.
      Like I said, keep it simple.

    • @olivertaylor8447
      @olivertaylor8447 Před rokem +10

      Oh yeah that’s weird why did he not just charge it

    • @maxx0r050
      @maxx0r050 Před rokem

      O this guy's friend's an idiot so mechanical is better.

  • @fernandog.aguirre2791
    @fernandog.aguirre2791 Před rokem +116

    I have both...and I went back to my mechanical, always ready for the ride!

    • @SourPatchPuss
      @SourPatchPuss Před rokem

      Isnt it funny how that works. I did the same exact thing.

    • @Wallstreetavarice
      @Wallstreetavarice Před 10 měsíci +2

      The battery lasts nearly a month. How often do you have to plug your phone in?

    • @Dimarious.G
      @Dimarious.G Před 7 měsíci

      ​​@@Wallstreetavarice that comparison have no sence at all.
      Early phones was plugged in constantly. Nowday phones have to be plugged from time to time but not all the time already. So it became more unplugged than it was.
      Bikes on the otherhand always was plug-free. It is the spirit of the bike to be plug-free. There is no a real reason to ruin it. I mean except for the greedy money-bags to put their filthy hands to customer's pocket even further.

    • @Dimarious.G
      @Dimarious.G Před 7 měsíci

      They telling us that charging it once in a while is not that hard. And you know what? Not charging at all is the hell easier than that. 🤭

    • @seanfernandolopez9139
      @seanfernandolopez9139 Před 2 měsíci

      I am actually going primitive and primitive the longer I ride. Now I just want single speed.

  • @machyne82
    @machyne82 Před rokem +116

    Mechanical, I like the feel of knowing I’m at the end of the cassette. Not clicking away hoping for another gear.

    • @jarnold1789
      @jarnold1789 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Interesting, I never considered that aspect of it but that makes sense. I love the analog feel and the tactility of a mechanical shifter. I’ve experienced electronic shifting briefly on friends bikes and while it’s neat I don’t think it feels any better than my mechanical X01 setup

    • @djorzgul
      @djorzgul Před 7 měsíci +1

      well, another way to look at it would be now you can focus on ride more because gear changes are more on the feeling side ( sram axs) left-go down right-go up... with 1x12 drivetrain... pure joy to ride. You never look what gear it is, just pedal and go!

    • @paulh1860
      @paulh1860 Před 2 měsíci +1

      My Garmin beeps when I'm at the top or bottom of the cassette 😆

    • @Psi-du2lw
      @Psi-du2lw Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@paulh1860 That sounds annoying af 🤢

    • @Crankbait420
      @Crankbait420 Před měsícem

      Hitting the end of the cassette feels like when the bolt carrier locks back….you know you’re out of ammo and need to switch mags.

  • @edgeofsanitysevensix
    @edgeofsanitysevensix Před rokem +23

    Got SRAM AXS on my new bike. It's magic. Didn't think it would make a difference but the instant shift at a button press is amazing.

    • @nolanteofanesrodriguezbayo1156
      @nolanteofanesrodriguezbayo1156 Před měsícem +1

      Yo tengo los dos y son preciosos no hay diferencia son exactos al final me quede con el mecánico es más ligero

    • @zjedinite
      @zjedinite Před 27 dny

      @@nolanteofanesrodriguezbayo1156that’s not true. They are not exactly the same. If you don’t notice the difference perhaps you are not taking the time to test it properly.
      You can like one over the other but sorry, the same they are not!

    • @timmayers4965
      @timmayers4965 Před 24 dny

      I run shimano XT. A friend runs AXS. We’ve ridden each others and can’t tell the difference. He’s an expert bike mechanic and they are both set perfectly

  • @ZRMTB
    @ZRMTB Před rokem +1001

    Mechanical…do not want to worry about batteries.

    • @martypino5258
      @martypino5258 Před rokem +31

      Those batteries last for like 2-3000 shifts, bring a spare in your flat kit and if you’re on a road bike just swap the front battery to the rear

    • @MarioXcore1
      @MarioXcore1 Před rokem +113

      @@martypino5258or you could just never ever need one ever whatsoever no matter what lol

    • @ZRMTB
      @ZRMTB Před rokem +8

      Set it and forget it.

    • @bmonroe1
      @bmonroe1 Před rokem +18

      I have to readjust my mechanical shifter, more often than I have to recharge the batteries on my electrical

    • @yormeaceko7101
      @yormeaceko7101 Před rokem +9

      Electrical...do not want to worry about mechanic expenses

  • @ricardolb
    @ricardolb Před rokem +18

    Try it using a 90s thumbshifter and you'll see magic before your eyes.

  • @vojtechpilar5809
    @vojtechpilar5809 Před rokem +192

    The should make the battery rechargeable from the wheel spinning so that you'd never have to worry about it.

    • @justanothermountainbiker6958
      @justanothermountainbiker6958 Před rokem +16

      don't give them ideas dude 😆

    • @panzerveps
      @panzerveps Před rokem +63

      That's power loss and added weight.
      2 things no cyclist want.

    • @khchoi2012
      @khchoi2012 Před rokem

      That has been invented long time ago. Maybe before your time, you didn't realise. It's called dynamo.
      czcams.com/video/8btR9Ge0NUw/video.html

    • @nemure
      @nemure Před rokem +44

      ​@@panzerveps don't worry, if you worry about weight that much means your brain is 1kg lighter than average people so cheers!

    • @quickreviewchannel6931
      @quickreviewchannel6931 Před rokem +15

      They could add a KERS system making power from braking heat

  • @coolguy2370
    @coolguy2370 Před rokem +29

    Electric sullys the simplistic beauty of a bike

    • @duodecaquark3186
      @duodecaquark3186 Před rokem +4

      That's like saying that internally routed cables or index shifters "ruin the simplistic beauty of a bike."

    • @JaiJai71104
      @JaiJai71104 Před rokem

      Should we go back to downtube shifters and the likes ?

    • @coolguy2370
      @coolguy2370 Před rokem +2

      @Duodecaquark it's not like saying that because I'm not saying that and it doesn't the only things that ruin bikes for me is electric powered shifters I mean you have to be really delusional to want electric shifting really what are you gaining but a lighter wallet and bar spins

    • @JaiJai71104
      @JaiJai71104 Před rokem +3

      @Cool Guy what are you gaining says it all .Every groupset has pros and cons .
      The gain with electronic shifting is 0 adjustment ever .Never missing a Gear .No rattling gears .
      It's like saying why have an engine that does over the speed limit .Its not to say mechanical is bad at all but to be so closed minded is a you problem and it shows clearly that you have never tried it

    • @coolguy2370
      @coolguy2370 Před rokem +2

      @JaiJai71104 I mean if you can't set limit screws or turn a barrel adjuster go ahead and spend 5-600 on di2 or axis not my money not my bike I just don't think their worth a 6x what a mech derailleur cost

  • @stlc3415
    @stlc3415 Před rokem +184

    Mechanical = saving 💵💰

    • @nemure
      @nemure Před rokem +3

      This is partially true. A friend that is a pro bike mechanic, has a shop and lives from this explained me why he is a fan of electronic.
      Mechanical has wires and if they are fully routed internally is both time consuming and expensive to work with. Electronics are wireless and lacks this problem, their maintenance is cheaper and easier and you don't need to adjust it every now and then like mechanicals.
      I was a electronic I don't want to say hater but something on those lines, but since he told me this I look them with better eyes.

    • @AndrewTSq
      @AndrewTSq Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@nemure I have changed wires on my bike twice in 10 years (different bikes), one normal and one with internal. The interal are easy as heck, since you can use the old wire to guide the new one inside the frame. Takes maybe 2 minutes longer than external. The length of the external housing you just use the old ones as your blueprint. Takes around 30 minutes on a bike, and you only need todo it once in the bikes lifetime.

    • @nemure
      @nemure Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@AndrewTSq again, this is partially true. It depends a heck log on brands.
      Some have guiding and is fine, others doesn't and takes a hell lot of a time and effort to do so.
      Regarding the change wires once in a life time you are totally wrong. I had to do it in 2 years, the mechanical shifters didn't work properly after 2 years where I rode 7 thousand km, nothing crazy

    • @AndrewTSq
      @AndrewTSq Před 11 měsíci

      @@nemure my roadbike has been 14000km. I bought the best wires i could find here (jagwire) and a set was like $30.

    • @nemure
      @nemure Před 11 měsíci

      @@AndrewTSq I have no clue what wires I had, nor what I got tbh.
      I had what came with the bike from the factory and asked my mech to change them for me 😂

  • @Coyot0xx0
    @Coyot0xx0 Před rokem +36

    I have an old mechanic but looking at this video I can tell that electric drivetrain is way more accurate which is crucial in many situations. I'm satisfied with my mechanical one, but would love to try the electric.

    • @NaddlyC
      @NaddlyC Před rokem +9

      nice to see some open-minded guy

    • @siemniak
      @siemniak Před rokem +5

      How exactly is it more accurate? Only thing I see is that its slower and doesn't make any real difference apart from fact your battery can die on you

    • @engineer1178
      @engineer1178 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@siemniakit’s actually much more reliable and can calibrate with the press of a button

    • @thea.m.p.co.467
      @thea.m.p.co.467 Před 8 měsíci

      @@engineer1178 He asked about accuracy, and you've only retorted about reliability without providing any information or proofs. In what way(s) are electric shifters more accurate than high-end mechanical ones? Batteries die faster than cables stretch, so I don't see how the elec. shifter is more "reliable". And I can adjust a mechanical derailleur with an Allen Key - it may not be fast and automatic like the elec. shifter, but you're not calibrating your derailleur _while_ you're riding, so the argument of "taking less time to calibrate by pushing a button" is a pretty moot point; you should probably be checking your bike _before_ a big/long ride anyways... For the money you save on a mechanical derailleur you can probably afford to have your bike serviced a couple times a year - a service you're probably going to pay for anyways, even if you have an elec. shifter - a service that should include checking and adjusting your derailleur, electric or mechanical... Having a Lexus is great, but the extra cost isn't justifiable for more people - a fancier more expensive car is not necessarily nor inhearantly a "better" car. It is ultimately just a different car. Enjoy your Lexus, I'm fine in my Toyota.

    • @nommchompsky
      @nommchompsky Před 8 měsíci +1

      I've had Di2 on my commuter for over a year without having to adjust it a single time. Give it a charge once every 3 or 4 months and it's good to go. My mechanical systems used to start to get gummed up after a couple of months of winter rain

  • @Simon1279.
    @Simon1279. Před rokem +10

    What i love about electronic is the app, the garmin edge plugin and the fine tuning related to app.
    On the other hand, mech drivetrain doesn't need for batteries.
    But i do prefer electronic drivetrain.
    Can't wait for a Shimano XT wireless electronic derailleur if ever.

  • @jonathanhowson6420
    @jonathanhowson6420 Před rokem +60

    Mechanical gears & dropper post, threaded bbs, 6 bolt rotors and headsets without cables through them please.

    • @lesterroberts1628
      @lesterroberts1628 Před rokem +2

      These integrated seat clamps suck too. Just got one on a 2018 sirrus elite. It falls into the frame and gets stuck! Once i thought it was gone forever

    • @nassozeebo
      @nassozeebo Před rokem +4

      Electrical/wireless dropper posts seems kinda sweet though...

    • @jonathanhowson6420
      @jonathanhowson6420 Před rokem +2

      @@nassozeebo I would much rather go cable gears and dropper and run Chris King bearings to the hubs, headset and BB. Cable works so well, much cheaper and super easy to maintain at home.

    • @kecimalah
      @kecimalah Před 11 měsíci +3

      Agree only with centerlock rotors I dont see any problem

  • @JJ_MTB_15
    @JJ_MTB_15 Před rokem +39

    Not sure i'll ever go electronic

  • @jadeloff5557
    @jadeloff5557 Před rokem +61

    I like xtr group way more than my previous xx1 axs. Cable for me

    • @ZRMTB
      @ZRMTB Před rokem +3

      Awesome! I ride XT which is great as well.

    • @flashfive23
      @flashfive23 Před rokem +6

      Cable? 10x more reliable!

    • @davidkarlmartillano4437
      @davidkarlmartillano4437 Před rokem

      ​@@ZRMTBaa As aaAaa

    • @felixfam0481
      @felixfam0481 Před rokem +1

      Hah it's the other way around for me, my xtr groupset is terribly unreliable after adjusting it countless times. As a mechanic id go axis any day

    • @SugmaDLigmaNutz
      @SugmaDLigmaNutz Před 10 měsíci

      ​@felixfam0481 sounds like you have damaged, bent or worn out components.
      This is coming from a bike mechanic.

  • @Entity738
    @Entity738 Před rokem +12

    I'll stick with mechanical until it doesn't satisfy my objective, if they could let's say use the heat generated by the disc to keep the electrical one charged or some integration where it used your pedal stroke, then who knows.

  • @hunterboy-vn7oh
    @hunterboy-vn7oh Před 11 měsíci +9

    Axs is the way to go I promise it’s so much smoother

    • @NrmlGuyNJ
      @NrmlGuyNJ Před 2 měsíci

      I agree with my fellow dentist

  • @joehopfield
    @joehopfield Před rokem +7

    Need a third video of friction mechanical. With modern derailleur, it's like butter

  • @felixabraham3128
    @felixabraham3128 Před rokem +3

    I just got the axs system and i have to say it’s so fricken nice. You also never have to charge it, it’s been like 3 months and the batteries are still on green. Also having no cables for the dropper or derailleur is so clean

  • @bayusukma_
    @bayusukma_ Před rokem +24

    For me, I like bikes because of their mechanical system, so I'll take mechanical everytime.

  • @F1exe
    @F1exe Před 9 měsíci +2

    "Sorry mate, i can't go. I forgot to charge my shifter"

  • @diegoeleazar9154
    @diegoeleazar9154 Před rokem +125

    Man sram wireless is so clean

    • @coolhawk2003
      @coolhawk2003 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Ya i cant even find the wire

    • @engineer1178
      @engineer1178 Před 11 měsíci

      @@coolhawk2003there isn’t one

    • @Generali087
      @Generali087 Před 10 měsíci

      Anything to not have to do cables

  • @justinnieves984
    @justinnieves984 Před rokem +3

    I've been using an AXS GX for over a year now. 40 miles per week average. It's been beaten up by rocks, trees, dirt, cleanings, etc. It's still going strong and hasn't needed adjusting yet. I have had zero issues with it.

    • @stuart1289
      @stuart1289 Před rokem +1

      Tha ks for the info, looking into one for my bike just haven't pulled the trigger yet haha.

    • @justinnieves984
      @justinnieves984 Před rokem +1

      @@stuart1289 it's a decision, but I think you'll enjoy it. Think the gx was down in price recently too!

    • @joshmarks3954
      @joshmarks3954 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Love my GX AXS. Best shifting I’ve experienced by far.

  • @CrewTapeOfficial
    @CrewTapeOfficial Před 10 měsíci +1

    Switching gears that smoothly is satisfying
    I wish mine did that

  • @LaurentiusTriarius
    @LaurentiusTriarius Před rokem +4

    I bought a xtr group in the mid 2000's. It's still mostly on my current all rounder MTB. The one I use the most.

  • @IsaacButlerMTB
    @IsaacButlerMTB Před rokem +31

    Mechanical, but I wish it was wireless.

  • @johnleal7095
    @johnleal7095 Před rokem +7

    Mechanical. Always like the simplicity of mechanical shifting

  • @petterholmstrom395
    @petterholmstrom395 Před 11 měsíci +30

    I have sram AXS electronic shifting on my stumpjumper - hands down the best shifting I´ve ever experienced. It´s also very easy to microtune. It can take a hell of a lot more beating than a traditional derailiur too. Bought the sram AXS dropperpost a few weeks back too - best dropper I ever tested/have owned.
    With that being said, I´m no pro rider and it hasnt made me a better cyclist or faster.
    But i have the money and i like technology so why not! :D

  • @Cloud-zq8mf
    @Cloud-zq8mf Před rokem +1

    Electric has many advantages. Its not only shift just like manual, but It can shift accurately at the perfect side of sprocket teeth to prevent chain snap. You can keep pedaling it without reducing torque and still can change gear smoothly.
    Manual, robust but need skill and sometimes need to reduce torque, to prevent chain snap.

  • @6samC4
    @6samC4 Před 10 měsíci +4

    In a zombie apocalypse, you'd wish you had got that mechanical when the grid goes under & zombies on yo a$$🧟🧟‍♀️🧟‍♂️

  • @michaellevengood8278
    @michaellevengood8278 Před rokem +6

    Mechanical all the way. Simplicity and reliability.

  • @andrewpipitone170
    @andrewpipitone170 Před 11 měsíci +1

    WoW this is really really impressive. To go from this small to that large so smooth.

  • @andresruiz7359
    @andresruiz7359 Před rokem +2

    You can make three to four shifts up or down consecutively while holding the AXS LEVER, in my world they both do ok, I like not having wires on my bar.
    Downsides of electric is forgetting to charge the battery.
    Other than that I’m very happy with my electric shifter.

  • @orszagpeter7605
    @orszagpeter7605 Před rokem +10

    Watching this vid with a fixie 😅

  • @hcw199
    @hcw199 Před rokem +151

    World is supposed to be going green... Then the bicycle industry change a perfectly good mechanical system into batteries and motors requiring rare earth metals. Stupid

    • @happydoggo592
      @happydoggo592 Před rokem +9

      I think mechanical is better in most cases, but putting a few motors and batteries on a bike isn’t a huge source of waste. Even an e-bikes environmental impact is nothing compared to cars.

    • @hcw199
      @hcw199 Před rokem +1

      @@happydoggo592 true and I don't believe the climate hysteria... But it goes against the narrative... Just like bill gates and Obama shouting sea level rise whilst buying beach front property.

    • @AM1N4L
      @AM1N4L Před rokem

      The amount of rare earth minerals used is absolutely negligible compared to cars or other forms of transit.
      Oh well we're all going to die soon anyway

    • @azovandy14.88
      @azovandy14.88 Před rokem +12

      Technology for technologies sake is stupid and unnecessary

    • @fortnite-kq7ok
      @fortnite-kq7ok Před rokem

      its designed for those who need that extra speed. its not as damaging as a whole ass new car

  • @Gmasterjoelio
    @Gmasterjoelio Před 11 měsíci +1

    My bike is both, so I don't really worry about it. 8 speed mechanical, and also has battery assist up to 4 levels. Absolutely love it.

  • @jimmytherat88
    @jimmytherat88 Před rokem +5

    Can you do a video of how well they shift when they run out of battery?

    • @YuudachiPois
      @YuudachiPois Před rokem +4

      should also do a video when mechanical wire loses tension, gets crap on the metal wire(contaminated) and snaps etc.
      Don't be acting like mechanical is flawless or without faults either.

    • @R_o_b_e_r_t
      @R_o_b_e_r_t Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@YuudachiPois I ride my bike almost everyday for years and I never had a problem with wires...

    • @lewan1905
      @lewan1905 Před 7 měsíci +2

      ​@R_o_b_e_r_t lucky for you then. My roadbike went through a set of wires within 9 months and tension would need to be adjusted multiple times to keep it accurate.

  • @kunkun3287
    @kunkun3287 Před rokem +6

    Well the electronic shifter feels too stiff like clicking a button, whereas I like the mechanical shifting that lets you push deeper

  • @kennyagne2922
    @kennyagne2922 Před rokem +46

    that mechanical sounded smoother lol

    • @yusufhakim3260
      @yusufhakim3260 Před rokem +1

      LoL mean?

    • @AndrewTSq
      @AndrewTSq Před 11 měsíci +1

      sounds like my mechanical 105 bike when the chain is newly waxed :)

  • @haroldperez4960
    @haroldperez4960 Před rokem +2

    I am fine with my shimano claris 2x8 groupset in my road bike and with my shimano tourney 2x8 groupset in my xc mtb bike, they're reliable and change gears really well even when they are dirty, I'm comfortable with them and they are really cheap!

  • @ooyyeeaahh9003
    @ooyyeeaahh9003 Před 11 měsíci +2

    My used bike came with gx Axs and I love it

  • @dustinbjohnson
    @dustinbjohnson Před rokem +9

    It’s a mountain bike not a Tesla. Haha I’ve actually had more issues with AXS then I ever have with cable. I’ve never snapped a derailleur cable. KEEP IT SIMPLE. And go ride your bike!!!

    • @dustinbjohnson
      @dustinbjohnson Před rokem +2

      @@Lenser I have a couple videos up on my channel talking about it.

    • @ZRMTB
      @ZRMTB Před rokem +1

      💯👌🏽

  • @tescalada
    @tescalada Před rokem +3

    Tried electric for a few months, it was a dissapoinment. Went back to mechanical and i am very happy. The feel you get with mechanical is way better, could not get usted to buttons.

    • @JaiJai71104
      @JaiJai71104 Před rokem

      Did you hire a groupset or buy one and sell it after you couldn't work it

    • @Gnarshredder
      @Gnarshredder Před rokem

      My AXS Eagle groupset came with a concave rocker shifter that I could never get right. Always shifting into the wrong gear at the worst possible time. Come to find out that sram has a OEM indexer style set up with the look and feel of non wireless shift lever. And for relatively cheap and super easy to install. It solved that prob for me and for the life of me, I can’t understand why that wouldn’t come stock!!!

  • @TheScramble8
    @TheScramble8 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Both changes were fantastic. I love bikes

  • @richdemers
    @richdemers Před 7 měsíci +1

    GX Eagle AXS mech and Reverb AXS post - both absolutely brilliant kit and I love them!
    AXS shifting is crisp and consistent even under load and I love how you can micro adjust the dropper; until you try it you just won’t get it.
    Totally a luxury and not needed, but also amazingly good kit if you choose to go AXS

  • @I-Yuzuki-I
    @I-Yuzuki-I Před rokem +3

    Just love my XX1 Eagle AXS ❤

  • @Radke32
    @Radke32 Před rokem +13

    Electric upshift and mechanical downshift is best

    • @jasonw3287
      @jasonw3287 Před rokem

      Mechanical downshift is way more important imo. I always have time to gear faster. It’s transitioning to uphill where I always want the fastest response. Mech for me.

    • @K1989L
      @K1989L Před rokem +1

      Why would you need electronics only to replace the return spring?

  • @dannyr333
    @dannyr333 Před rokem +2

    The both work perfectly
    Next video

  • @nommchompsky
    @nommchompsky Před 8 měsíci +1

    Electronic shifting is a step up if you can afford it. Especially after the bike has a few thousand kms on it rather than a fresh build still in the stand. I haven't used AXS, but im in love with my Di2. No adjustments, no cables gummed up with mud, no missed shifts because I pushed the lever a half mm too short. Just perfection and quarterly recharges

  • @danhart2411
    @danhart2411 Před rokem +7

    Sram xo1 mechanical can't beat dependability.

    • @pnwloamriders7115
      @pnwloamriders7115 Před rokem +5

      From my experience the electronic systems seem to need less maintenance and are more dependable then cable🤔 To each his own!

    • @klopcodez
      @klopcodez Před rokem

      Imagine the damn shifters don’t work and no breaks I wouldn’t risk it

    • @pnwloamriders7115
      @pnwloamriders7115 Před rokem +1

      @@klopcodez No brakes? I thought we were talking abt drivetrains?

  • @dennisbrucemasayon786
    @dennisbrucemasayon786 Před rokem +25

    This just reminded me how poor i am😂

  • @thecluuchannel4705
    @thecluuchannel4705 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Man that's awesome. I hope the 2024 Wired Freedom switches gears like that

  • @user-qn6yt3zx3w
    @user-qn6yt3zx3w Před rokem +1

    Had no end of issues with my SRAM derailleur on my summer-MTB - switched to this and it’s bloody brilliant!
    My winter bike has a Shimano derailleur and I love it, no need what-so-ever to change it.
    But the summer bike gets way more abuse and the AXS takes it all and adjusts itself automatically - brilliant.

  • @Magoo71
    @Magoo71 Před rokem +6

    The first time I got an Over the Air Update while my derailure, was sitting on the couch, I could not believe it....Technology...ain't she great...Never go back to cables...same comment for Headphones when I walk my Dog...Wireless baby.....all the time!

    • @seven9766
      @seven9766 Před rokem +1

      Next: the wireless dog leash.

  • @san_costa
    @san_costa Před rokem +5

    Running electric

  • @mrow9999
    @mrow9999 Před 7 měsíci +1

    After almost 26,000 mi I still like the electric shifting. Never have to worry about cleaning or adjusting or replacing cables again . No matter how exhausted I am, day or night, or bad weather. It is effortless. Only had a problem one time a loose wire: I plugged it back in - bada bing bada boom! Of course, what others have written here is true: someone can always drop you, but that's true regardless of your bike.

  • @lbe1ger777
    @lbe1ger777 Před rokem +2

    Electronic groupsets just work best for me. Both my Racefully and my Gravelbike are equiped with Srams Axs drivetrain and i would never change it. But the mechanichal ones got something going for them.

  • @TimEckel
    @TimEckel Před rokem +15

    Mechanical, less prone to failure.

    • @macroglossumstellatarum3068
      @macroglossumstellatarum3068 Před rokem +4

      That is not true at ALL haha

    • @TimEckel
      @TimEckel Před rokem

      @@macroglossumstellatarum3068 I've ridden too many times with people who've had a failure of their electronic shifters. There's more failure points.

  • @LR6092
    @LR6092 Před rokem +3

    Cue the "I choose mechanical not because I can't afford electronic but because...." folks

    • @patty109109
      @patty109109 Před 11 měsíci +1

      That is the reality of it isn’t it? Talking about how they don’t want batteries, even though they’re cadence sensor in there by computer, both rely on them as does any light on the bike.

    • @nommchompsky
      @nommchompsky Před 8 měsíci +2

      Yeah, in guessing 95% of the people saying "mechanical 100%, it's more reliable" have never used electronic shifting, let alone owned it. My Di2 has never had a single problem, not even a slow shift. It has been perfect

  • @johnflores6314
    @johnflores6314 Před rokem +1

    Installed many and love them! I don't have one yet.

  • @Wallstreetavarice
    @Wallstreetavarice Před 10 měsíci +2

    Electric. I'll never go back. Shifts like a dream from day one, even after many crashes. No fiddling with delimiter screws or running new cables. Anyone complaining about charging a battery once a month is clearly not maintaining their bike properly because there are so many other routine maintenance items that take much more effort/time

  • @Danielbright1978
    @Danielbright1978 Před rokem +11

    Just switched to AXS never will I run a cable shifter again!

    • @Magoo71
      @Magoo71 Před rokem +1

      Somebody needs to tell Jeff that he needs to stop acting like an old man...plenty of time left for that...c'mon Jeff....Get with it Technology rules! As long as you keep your drive train clean and lubed...and of course your Der Hanger straight....Wireless will never fail!....I also have the Reverb Wireless Seat Dropper, that is insanely expensive but is way FASTER than a cabled Seat Dropper...and you can always swipe the battery from that post to replace the dead one in your derailleur in a pinch! Man I'm gonna have to drive down there and show you guys how to ride! I always tell people how hip you 1000 Oakers are...but I might have to change that up a bit....;-)

    • @danielshelton2658
      @danielshelton2658 Před rokem +1

      ​@Larry Megugorac F R E D

  • @robfulton7490
    @robfulton7490 Před rokem +15

    Tried both. I'll take my XTR mechanical every time. Shifts faster, crisp, no problem with accuracy. Don't have time to mess with battery charging. I mountain bike to get away from electronics. Mechanical is set it and forget it.

  • @StreTownClowN
    @StreTownClowN Před měsícem +1

    As someone who frequently forgets to charge my phone i dont think i will ever transition.

  • @Cumberland_swasige
    @Cumberland_swasige Před rokem +2

    SRAM etap for me. No stretched cables etc. Batteries last 60hrs. Smooth AF.

  • @LD_FPS
    @LD_FPS Před rokem +5

    🇧🇷I prefer a mechanic 🙌🏼 in addition to not wasting battery life, maintenance is quieter and is also simpler, more agile and even better than electric 😁

    • @darioklein
      @darioklein Před rokem

      You have to change the wires after a time, on electric always works perfect after one year.

  • @timglaesner7963
    @timglaesner7963 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Electric, the xx transmission works great and silent under load, but at the end, my XT did it quite good on my XC.

  • @ross2005
    @ross2005 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Electric shifting is far superior - I would never go back. Much more accurate, no slippage, precise and reliable.

  • @deeks3747
    @deeks3747 Před rokem +8

    Can't knock it, if I haven't tried it!!

  • @goinawol9447
    @goinawol9447 Před rokem +5

    Don't know why you'd resort to electrical. "Oh shit forgot to charge my derailleur" and you're stuck in 3rd gear for the ride home.

  • @GokkunGuru
    @GokkunGuru Před rokem +2

    Both are excellent. With electronic, every shift is precise. No need to worry about cable stretch due to time or temperature. Setting the H and L limit are easier on electronic. Cable tension is one variable that can be eliminated.
    Mechanical is cool too especially on a high end drivetrain like XO1. It never fails.
    Love XX1 AXS on my XC rig and XO1 mech on my trail rig.

    • @TimEckel
      @TimEckel Před rokem

      I always use high-quality pre-stretched cables so my shifts always stay on-point.

  • @timewind3870
    @timewind3870 Před rokem +1

    I have both. Axs on road bike, XTR on MTB. Well adjusted xtr on mtb does the exceptional job. So does axs on roadie. I love just to tap the button

  • @simonepg6194
    @simonepg6194 Před rokem +9

    Machanical seems to be faster and works allways, no contest.

  • @s14sx
    @s14sx Před rokem +20

    Electric baby.

  • @wr0te0ff68
    @wr0te0ff68 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I wound up going fixed gear personally, I'm stupid so I keep it simple. Low in maintenance and high in fun.

  • @eddiefortmann02
    @eddiefortmann02 Před rokem +1

    Im a tech guy! I love my sram xx1 wireless setup! Battery last a really long time between charges!

  • @Pienimusta
    @Pienimusta Před rokem +17

    Sounds like there are mice in your drivetrain.

  • @K1989L
    @K1989L Před rokem +4

    Electronic for me anytime thanks!

  • @kamafryer
    @kamafryer Před měsícem +2

    mechanical going up is so smooth

  • @dennishaughton4554
    @dennishaughton4554 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I love my electronic shifting! It is so smooth!!!!

  • @MarioXcore1
    @MarioXcore1 Před rokem +5

    Mechanical forever lol

    • @MarioXcore1
      @MarioXcore1 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I now have AXS and I feel ashamed at my previous comment

  • @travr6
    @travr6 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I have both but i prefer the electronic shift.

  • @Thaddeus_Howe
    @Thaddeus_Howe Před 2 měsíci +2

    I feel like groupsets kinda peaked for recreational and casually competitive cyclists with the really lightweight 10 and 11 speed options from 5-10 years ago. 12 speed isn’t much of an improvement and electric group sets are very heavy. You can get an 8-10 year old speed dura ace or red groupset for a similar price as a brand new 105 electronic, and it will literally weigh a kilo less. That’s a weight difference you’ll actually notice.

  • @dangermouseTRUMP
    @dangermouseTRUMP Před rokem +3

    AXS . I'll never go back to a cable

  • @noejuliansaavedra
    @noejuliansaavedra Před rokem +3

    Ambos hacen bien su funcion, queda en gustos y claro. Presupuesto. 😂

  • @willsigmund9464
    @willsigmund9464 Před měsícem +1

    Love the bar setup wireless gives you but mech any day for performance

  • @y2kc0wb0y
    @y2kc0wb0y Před rokem +1

    I've ridden everything in every configuration and SRAM AXS groupos are amazing. I've converted all my bikes. I can also say that you're saving energy not having to ratchet up and down a mechanic shifter. This adds up over long rides. Battery last months before they need a re-charge.

    • @hcw199
      @hcw199 Před rokem

      Get an e-bike then if you need assistance... Or a stannah stair lift to help you up the stairs.

  • @luislopez1800
    @luislopez1800 Před rokem +1

    Eagle AXS XX1 purchased from Worldwide Cyclery and I thank you.

  • @dstaff4134
    @dstaff4134 Před 7 měsíci +1

    While I prefer mechanical drive train, I do enjoy the assistance from my EMTB for hills and winds. Great for options so everyone can use what they prefer and enjoy a nice ride!

  • @Lockeness86
    @Lockeness86 Před měsícem +2

    Electronic shifting is a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist

  • @LuisManuelHdez
    @LuisManuelHdez Před 7 měsíci +1

    Both. Nothing wrong with either ! Innovation is great!

  • @3751marco
    @3751marco Před měsícem

    I drive di2 for 3 years now, shifts flawless every time...charge it 1-2 times per season...it's amazing!!!

  • @punisher40revenge73
    @punisher40revenge73 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Shifter cable have always worked for me. Manual controls no recharge necessary.

  • @MrM0161
    @MrM0161 Před měsícem

    Electric from now on - never going back! nothing shifts like it, so smooth!

  • @pedrobarros4837
    @pedrobarros4837 Před rokem +1

    Mechanical derraileur paired with friction shifters on a 1x setup. As cheap and maintenance free as it can be.

  • @driftedkart2593
    @driftedkart2593 Před 7 měsíci

    Mechanical, but man I love the sound of electronic shifting

  • @core-i7413
    @core-i7413 Před rokem +1

    I like mechanical shifting for mountain bikes, cheaper and I don't need to worry about replacing a thousand-dollar derailleur if the worst happens.
    For road bikes I prefer AXS/Di2 though, they're very reliable and are good for racing as they shift perfectly under load and I can always rely on them instead of having mechanical group sets possibly be a bit twitchy or slow.