will you be reviewing the 2022 and 2023 model? please, from uk, which in your oppinion would you buy if you were looking for a 2up quad bike touring, please!!
Ciao Marc, this Massimo from Italy. Because an health problem I can't drive my motorbikes anymore and I have to buy an ATV like the CForce 800 or 1000. In 2011, when I was still sound, I've crossed USA coast to coast, from Delaware to Oregon, by motorbike, alone, 90% of the trip was in off road. Obviously I've bought a roadbook. I'm the first italian that did this trip. Now I'm thinking to do the same trip on an ATV. The roads you have filmed are the same I did the first time, what memories! Thank a lot Marc and sorry for my rusty english. Massimo.
After watching many reveiws on which 4 wheeler I should buy, this video was the best. I bought the cforce 1000 overland and I'm sooo glad I did!!!! Love it!
Excellent review Marc! I concur completely. I love mine here in Ontario. I agree that the turning radius is definitely like trying to turn a bus around. I do however have one well two (constructive) gripes and both are heat related. First is my seat gets so hot it becomes an excuse to stop and take a break. Second, is don't put anything plastic in the rear storage. I had my rain suit in there and it glued itself from the muffler heat so bad I had to throw it out. I wish the muffler was straight out the back (like the 600) not sideways and almost touching the rear storage. P.S. If you, and I am, still experimenting with the rear suspension while you are riding, better take a pair of oven mitts with you or do it with a cold exhaust. I have no more fingerprints from fine tuning the RR damping clicker. Having shared those comments with you though, I do love my Overland (and that's a comment from a guy who wears Polaris underwear, but now also wears a cfmoto hat too) !
Thanks for the honest, balanced review! I bought an Overland last month. The 2023 Overland was going up $1000 Canadian over the 2022 Overland. Plus CFMOTO Canada had a $750 manufacturer rebate on 2022s and the dealer rounded that up to $1000 (thanks Kelowna Power Sports). So the 2022 cost me $2000 less than the 2023 would have!
i just got a 2022 800 2up and im really loving it. it just keeps impressing me, i also own a 2022 850 scrambler and i prefer riding the cf moto honestly
Switched my Kawa for a Cforce 1000 EPS 2021. No regrets at all, like you said, the comfort is amazing on these things and the suspension is 100% adjustable for every application you might have for it. It does keep you feet hot though!! Cheers!
@@komunakomunale6643 It's hard to tell at this point, I only have 1400 km on my Cforce. But so far, so good. I did an overall inspection 2 weeks ago. The belt looked brand new. No signs of spoting of wearing on any parts of the clutch.
Only problem I don't like is the Postage stamp of a windshield.. Hopefully they make a larger one. An wish they came with front and back hand warmers for us Canadians.
Je roule presque toujours avec des gants…. Le problème cette fois- là c’est 50 kg de Berger Allemand qui a décidé de s’approprier un de ces fameux gants…. Lol!
Thanks, were still working on that... not as easy as it looks. :) But it's all our footage that we shot with our gopros, sony video camera and the mavic mini 2 drone. Getting there!
This is very convincing but I don't go made in China when it comes to vehicles and guns. But I like the TGB more than the cfmoto. I probably will buy a TGB someday. Someday since no one is selling it.lols Never seen one yet in person.
I have a 2022 Cforce 1000 (not the overland) and I really like your videos. You are right, the turning radius sucks and the machine does put off a lot of heat. But it's also, as you mentioned, extremely comfortable, stable and powerful. No it won't defeat a Canam 1000 in a race but that was never my goal, although I understand a ECU flash and a couple other minor upgrades can get you over 90 hp. Anyway thanks for the video, love your trails. Much smoother than our NS trails
looked hard at one, beautiful looking, but a Polaris now in price is not far off from it, and the lack of turning radius stopped me from buying one years ago, plus reliability issues i do a lot of tight hard wooded trails, i need to be able to maneuver.
i just purchased a 2022 overland i can't wait to receive it in a week and give a nice run. that trail looks to be perfect for the Cadillac overland. where is it quebec can you post a link i wouldn't mind doing some quebec destination ATV rideing.
Is it powerful enough to do a wheelie? Not that it's super important, but wheelies are fun sometimes. I'm considering one of these, but it will be mostly for fun (but also for plowing snow in the winter). Unfortunately, the dealer doesn't have one of these for test drives, so I'd have to buy it untested. Moving to a farm at the end of a gravel road, and something like this would be super helpful during the winter (and very fun). Been more into bikes for many years, but they have grown stale for me, so I'm looking for something different, that can also be used for practical stuff.
It can wheelie but youll need to tune the cvt. Its a porky 1000+ lbs wet so… act accordingly. It's a torque monster compared to polaris and Can-Am down low and that's a good part of the reason I like it so much in the tight stuff. When you're dow a little more than 10 hp you really notice ut up top where the can-am with the same engine layout will stomp all over it passed 70 kph and never look back. I like this machine a lot and it can do the work like plowing with ease
@@PowerSportsQuebec Never got a notification about your reply. Yeah I found out myself that it's no wheelie monster - went ahead and bought one. Ridden it for 6 hours now. It's still pretty powerful though, and loads of fun. Fairly quick even with a passenger. Only ever tried a Polaris Sportman 570 before, and that was extremely sluggish and boring on the road - but of course fun off-road. Was hesitant to buy a Chinese brand, but so far it seems to be working out. Doesn't feel like a cheap vehicle at all, and since my dealer voluntarily chose to start selling CFmoto, abandoning Polaris in the process (Polaris said they couldn't sell both, so my dealer chose CFmoto), I assume it is a solid brand. Bonus points for possibly being the nicest looking ATV in this segment. I wouldn't mind 15 extra hp, but it really doesn't need it.
@@venusgaming8232 YIT shock are not elka shocks! YIT made in China, Elka made in Boucheville Quebec, Canada. They are loosely copied on Elka but in no way shape or form have any Elka components or designs. The ownership of Elka are personal friends of mine and I assure you that YIT and Elka do not have anything to do with each other.
I have to wash the unit I borrow on my dime back to showroom condition (the way I got it) So excuse me for skimping out on the get wet and muddy part okay? :) Marc
Which is better bang for buck, the Canam XT 700 you reviewed or this one? Price is similar but I’m interested in reliability more than HP… what do you think?
I just like the dynamics of the new can-am platform. In my opinion it's the benchmark for ANY 2 up ATV. The CF is an awesome ride and a complete ready to ride package but, the sloppy DPS / steering is a dealbreaker for me. get the 850 XTP max and it going to be an extra sweet ride and faster than the 1000 cfmoto @@crfamily6946
Excellent i have the normale Cforce 1000 well almost normale a Nordic Edidtion who are a bit diffrent in colors and so on but the ATV are the same and i love it :) An i love the road you use we in Norway don't have any offroads like that they are closed with a fence or some so you can't drive there, so we must drive on the public roads mostly here bah ;( and i know the swing radius is bad haha but i can live with that. And also it is plombed so we cant drive faster than 60 km/h here lol, anyway i got a free speed ECU for it who i gonna replace the 60 shit with soon! 👍👍 If you wanna se my Nordic Edition only clik on my name :)
Please let me know how reliable it is how many kilometers did you put on before any breakdowns that to me is the most important I put a lot of miles on I'm kind of writer that likes to abuse the machine once in a while not all the time
Always do this test at the same place and I got a very good idea how others stack up by memory, thus my comment about 180 ish deg turn. Hope you're doing good Bearded guy!
@@ATVGUYS im doing the best I can! trying not to over heat in this high temps were getting lately. Other than that it seems that cfmoto is the perfect machine for a couple who want so decent power, loads of accessories, and good ride comfort for a lesser price than the competition
@@beardedatvers That's pretty much where they are getting to be at. They learned. Still not the level of the top tier Can-Ams and Polaris but they never been closer. And the price makes those 10+ missing hp not be so important as it kills in midrange.
I own one it's great so far. But the skid plates are not so great specially in the front part that aluminum skid it blended in the first ride. And the engine break it stops below speeds 15km/h in H that's is anoing
I am not a huge fan of anything made in China, mostly because their government is horrible to their own people and they are known for stealing intellectual property. The majority of the brand are cheap with the goal of being cheap on purpose. However, CFMoto feels different. I have been following them for a few years now and between partnering with KTM - which I do not think KTM would pick a garbage company to partner with and the race series they do in Europe, they are showing that a company from China can break the mold and make a unique original design that actually tries and is reliable. I would wager that outside of getting parts if needed for any reason (wreck), they are more reliable than Polaris and maybe even CanAm. I've seen a few with over 10k miles on the internet and CZcams. I believe there is a guy in Sweden that has one with 30k miles (not kilometers), but actual miles and climbing. Yeah, it would be fun to see someone buy a new CFMoto and a Polaris and run them through the same trails for a few years, at least 2k miles a year and see which one holds up better.
I bought one …hesitantly. Kinda violated my own beliefs - sorta. My hesitancy was similar to yours. However, more because of how they’re trying to dominate the USA / the world. A second “however” ‘; ;;; the current USA government isn’t exactly pure ….corruption reigns …..And, the way our gov is treating J6 detainee’s is horrible (I’m talking about those who were “just there”…and got caught up). JB and his crew aren’t exactly making Americans proud.
Actually just as good as the competition. It’s a trail / ride review and a brand new press unit btw. I dunked the one my friend bought in a couple of deep mud holes and it did ok with the trail / hardpack tires it has. I’d love to get a chance to do some minor mods like big mud tires, snorkels ( the cvt exhaust is a little on the low side for my taste) and a rad relocator. Then take it out againts similar equiped can-ams and polaris for the fun of it.
Thumbs up please, if you enjoyed the video! :)
What helmet is it. Interesting
@@wscl1981 It's a Scorpion EXO 950 hybrid. love the thing!
sorry I didn't enjoy the video..... I loved it
will you be reviewing the 2022 and 2023 model? please, from uk, which in your oppinion would you buy if you were looking for a 2up quad bike touring, please!!
Are you guys sponsored by cf moto? I really want the 1000. Just want unbiased reviews
Just got my MSC build. 1000 with headers, intake, tune and engine mount. The unit is unreal guy's!
Ciao Marc, this Massimo from Italy. Because an health problem I can't drive my motorbikes anymore and I have to buy an ATV like the CForce 800 or 1000. In 2011, when I was still sound, I've crossed USA coast to coast, from Delaware to Oregon, by motorbike, alone, 90% of the trip was in off road. Obviously I've bought a roadbook. I'm the first italian that did this trip. Now I'm thinking to do the same trip on an ATV. The roads you have filmed are the same I did the first time, what memories! Thank a lot Marc and sorry for my rusty english. Massimo.
After watching many reveiws on which 4 wheeler I should buy, this video was the best. I bought the cforce 1000 overland and I'm sooo glad I did!!!! Love it!
How are you liking it now that you've had it for a while?
I have 1050 miles on it now and it's a beast, I've been through unbelievable mud and terrain. Love it!@@TN-ez6lz
Excellent review Marc! I concur completely. I love mine here in Ontario. I agree that the turning radius is definitely like trying to turn a bus around. I do however have one well two (constructive) gripes and both are heat related. First is my seat gets so hot it becomes an excuse to stop and take a break. Second, is don't put anything plastic in the rear storage. I had my rain suit in there and it glued itself from the muffler heat so bad I had to throw it out. I wish the muffler was straight out the back (like the 600) not sideways and almost touching the rear storage. P.S. If you, and I am, still experimenting with the rear suspension while you are riding, better take a pair of oven mitts with you or do it with a cold exhaust. I have no more fingerprints from fine tuning the RR damping clicker. Having shared those comments with you though, I do love my Overland (and that's a comment from a guy who wears Polaris underwear, but now also wears a cfmoto hat too) !
I only started my search for a big quad today. And found this. I like.
Thanks for the honest, balanced review! I bought an Overland last month. The 2023 Overland was going up $1000 Canadian over the 2022 Overland. Plus CFMOTO Canada had a $750 manufacturer rebate on 2022s and the dealer rounded that up to $1000 (thanks Kelowna Power Sports). So the 2022 cost me $2000 less than the 2023 would have!
great deal
Nice review. The variety of camera angles is pretty cool. CF Moto continues to improve...
Thanks! Jason and I work pretty hard to try and make a better experience. I'm still not very good at editing but it's getting better.
i just got a 2022 800 2up and im really loving it. it just keeps impressing me, i also own a 2022 850 scrambler and i prefer riding the cf moto honestly
Switched my Kawa for a Cforce 1000 EPS 2021. No regrets at all, like you said, the comfort is amazing on these things and the suspension is 100% adjustable for every application you might have for it. It does keep you feet hot though!! Cheers!
what about belts..? is this durable as the brute ?
@@komunakomunale6643 It's hard to tell at this point, I only have 1400 km on my Cforce. But so far, so good. I did an overall inspection 2 weeks ago. The belt looked brand new. No signs of spoting of wearing on any parts of the clutch.
Only problem I don't like is the Postage stamp of a windshield.. Hopefully they make a larger one. An wish they came with front and back hand warmers for us Canadians.
Nice review and nice bike. I'd love to upgrade from my 500 H.O.
It's way different from what you run currently, only good reasons to upgrade if you can afford the 15K + price tag
I've been waiting for this
Great honest video. I just bought one. Where did you start in the trail system. Would love to visit that place.
Great video thx guys!
Je viens de commander le mien
Plus qu’à attendre qu’il arrive
Salut de Belgique Marc, merveilleuse vidéo et surtout merveilleuse machine. Pas bien ça de rouler sans gant ;-)
Je roule presque toujours avec des gants…. Le problème cette fois- là c’est 50 kg de Berger Allemand qui a décidé de s’approprier un de ces fameux gants…. Lol!
@@PowerSportsQuebec t’inquiète, je sais et je plaisantais. Ah nos loulous qu’est-ce qu'on ne ferait pas pour eux, même leur donner nos gants 😉
Nice review, good cameras angles ....
Thanks, were still working on that... not as easy as it looks. :) But it's all our footage that we shot with our gopros, sony video camera and the mavic mini 2 drone. Getting there!
This is very convincing but I don't go made in China when it comes to vehicles and guns. But I like the TGB more than the cfmoto. I probably will buy a TGB someday. Someday since no one is selling it.lols Never seen one yet in person.
Great review.
I have a 2022 Cforce 1000 (not the overland) and I really like your videos. You are right, the turning radius sucks and the machine does put off a lot of heat. But it's also, as you mentioned, extremely comfortable, stable and powerful. No it won't defeat a Canam 1000 in a race but that was never my goal, although I understand a ECU flash and a couple other minor upgrades can get you over 90 hp. Anyway thanks for the video, love your trails. Much smoother than our NS trails
looked hard at one, beautiful looking, but a Polaris now in price is not far off from it, and the lack of turning radius stopped me from buying one years ago, plus reliability issues i do a lot of tight hard wooded trails, i need to be able to maneuver.
polaris atvs have a lot of reliability issues....
you can get up to 72 months warranty on any CFMoto unit...
i just purchased a 2022 overland i can't wait to receive it in a week and give a nice run. that trail looks to be perfect for the Cadillac overland. where is it quebec can you post a link i wouldn't mind doing some quebec destination ATV rideing.
You need a $650 course to ride in Quebec. I hear from a cf moto dealer
Is it powerful enough to do a wheelie? Not that it's super important, but wheelies are fun sometimes. I'm considering one of these, but it will be mostly for fun (but also for plowing snow in the winter). Unfortunately, the dealer doesn't have one of these for test drives, so I'd have to buy it untested.
Moving to a farm at the end of a gravel road, and something like this would be super helpful during the winter (and very fun). Been more into bikes for many years, but they have grown stale for me, so I'm looking for something different, that can also be used for practical stuff.
It can wheelie but youll need to tune the cvt. Its a porky 1000+ lbs wet so… act accordingly. It's a torque monster compared to polaris and Can-Am down low and that's a good part of the reason I like it so much in the tight stuff.
When you're dow a little more than 10 hp you really notice ut up top where the can-am with the same engine layout will stomp all over it passed 70 kph and never look back.
I like this machine a lot and it can do the work like plowing with ease
Long wheelbase always hard to wheelie.
@@PowerSportsQuebec Never got a notification about your reply. Yeah I found out myself that it's no wheelie monster - went ahead and bought one. Ridden it for 6 hours now. It's still pretty powerful though, and loads of fun. Fairly quick even with a passenger. Only ever tried a Polaris Sportman 570 before, and that was extremely sluggish and boring on the road - but of course fun off-road.
Was hesitant to buy a Chinese brand, but so far it seems to be working out. Doesn't feel like a cheap vehicle at all, and since my dealer voluntarily chose to start selling CFmoto, abandoning Polaris in the process (Polaris said they couldn't sell both, so my dealer chose CFmoto), I assume it is a solid brand.
Bonus points for possibly being the nicest looking ATV in this segment. I wouldn't mind 15 extra hp, but it really doesn't need it.
@@PragmaticTornado My sentiments exactly.
Yeah it can, shift it in low gear and hammer it and pull the handlebars
Just ordered mine
me too! :-)
Asking around to other owners if their overland has a fairly loud whine. Sounds like its in the front end
The overland has an Elka shock package. Where as the regular 1000 does not
Nope, they are YIT piggybacks
The cfmoto 850xc, 1000, 1000 overland come with YIT piggybacks, technically the shocks are made by elka but under another name.
@@venusgaming8232 YIT shock are not elka shocks! YIT made in China, Elka made in Boucheville Quebec, Canada. They are loosely copied on Elka but in no way shape or form have any Elka components or designs. The ownership of Elka are personal friends of mine and I assure you that YIT and Elka do not have anything to do with each other.
What's with the driving around the puddles?
I have to wash the unit I borrow on my dime back to showroom condition (the way I got it) So excuse me for skimping out on the get wet and muddy part okay? :) Marc
I see one of these in my future
Change the oils to Amsoil then it will be way quieter and way smoother.
Which is better bang for buck, the Canam XT 700 you reviewed or this one? Price is similar but I’m interested in reliability more than HP… what do you think?
Honestly, I'd take the Can-am of it was a max (2 seater)
Max XT 700 is more comfortable eh?
I just like the dynamics of the new can-am platform. In my opinion it's the benchmark for ANY 2 up ATV.
The CF is an awesome ride and a complete ready to ride package but, the sloppy DPS / steering is a dealbreaker for me.
get the 850 XTP max and it going to be an extra sweet ride and faster than the 1000 cfmoto @@crfamily6946
OK. Thanks for the feedback!@@PowerSportsQuebec
XTP would be ideal, price point is a big ouch tho! @@PowerSportsQuebec
Привет.
Если можно, то скинь пожалуйста мне ссылку, где можно купить такое ветровое стекло ? Маленькое и не высокое - в общем классное. Спасибо.
How does it feel and compare to the Can-Am Outlander 1000?.
good 👍
Excellent i have the normale Cforce 1000 well almost normale a Nordic Edidtion who are a bit diffrent in colors and so on but the ATV are the same and i love it :) An i love the road you use we in Norway don't have any offroads like that they are closed with a fence or some so you can't drive there, so we must drive on the public roads mostly here bah ;( and i know the swing radius is bad haha but i can live with that. And also it is plombed so we cant drive faster than 60 km/h here lol, anyway i got a free speed ECU for it who i gonna replace the 60 shit with soon! 👍👍
If you wanna se my Nordic Edition only clik on my name :)
Please let me know how reliable it is how many kilometers did you put on before any breakdowns that to me is the most important I put a lot of miles on I'm kind of writer that likes to abuse the machine once in a while not all the time
hey marc! you were in 4wd when you were doing your turn testing if that matters much with power steering much
Always do this test at the same place and I got a very good idea how others stack up by memory, thus my comment about 180 ish deg turn.
Hope you're doing good Bearded guy!
@@ATVGUYS im doing the best I can! trying not to over heat in this high temps were getting lately. Other than that it seems that cfmoto is the perfect machine for a couple who want so decent power, loads of accessories, and good ride comfort for a lesser price than the competition
@@beardedatvers That's pretty much where they are getting to be at. They learned. Still not the level of the top tier Can-Ams and Polaris but they never been closer. And the price makes those 10+ missing hp not be so important as it kills in midrange.
I forgot to mention, keep up with these riding reviews. Love them a lot
@@ATVGUYS so the power is good low end and mid range just not as good as Polaris and Can Am up top pretty much?
You don´t like the heat from engine. What about this heat in the outlander 1000? Thanks
Same thing but the outlander is hotter in fact.
Hi. Please send me the link where you can buy such a cool windshield. Neat and not tall. Thanks.
the new overlander comes Stock with the windshield and everything, check their website or other videos buddy
So, this videos year old do you still feel good about 1000? I just order one 2 days ago and hope so
Yup, I dont bullshit in my reviews.
whats the fuel mpg for trail ridings ?
During break in I got 12.67 l/100 km which equals out to 236 km on a single 30 l tank.
C'est ou cette trail? Très bon review...
Mascouche 4 saisons
I own one it's great so far. But the skid plates are not so great specially in the front part that aluminum skid it blended in the first ride. And the engine break it stops below speeds 15km/h in H that's is anoing
The engine break will engage below 15 km/h if you tap the throttle
whats your helmet model ?
Scorpion AT-950
In my country their is one selling for 11k are they worth that much
$16 299 cad right now.
$9,999.00 here in the USA. 5-6k less expensive than a comparable Polaris.
@@ronpage101 9999$ the base model. The Overland version is more expensive, around 14000$
@@dragosmitoi3239 we only have an overland version available in the states. There is no base model available here.
@@ronpage101 strange. In Europe 13000€ is the 1000 version, but the Overland is 14.000€….
Did yours comes with mirrors ?
Yes they come stock with them
Nous on en a deux des monstres
I am not a huge fan of anything made in China, mostly because their government is horrible to their own people and they are known for stealing intellectual property. The majority of the brand are cheap with the goal of being cheap on purpose. However, CFMoto feels different. I have been following them for a few years now and between partnering with KTM - which I do not think KTM would pick a garbage company to partner with and the race series they do in Europe, they are showing that a company from China can break the mold and make a unique original design that actually tries and is reliable. I would wager that outside of getting parts if needed for any reason (wreck), they are more reliable than Polaris and maybe even CanAm.
I've seen a few with over 10k miles on the internet and CZcams. I believe there is a guy in Sweden that has one with 30k miles (not kilometers), but actual miles and climbing. Yeah, it would be fun to see someone buy a new CFMoto and a Polaris and run them through the same trails for a few years, at least 2k miles a year and see which one holds up better.
I bought one …hesitantly. Kinda violated my own beliefs - sorta. My hesitancy was similar to yours. However, more because of how they’re trying to dominate the USA / the world. A second “however” ‘; ;;; the current USA government isn’t exactly pure ….corruption reigns …..And, the way our gov is treating J6 detainee’s is horrible (I’m talking about those who were “just there”…and got caught up). JB and his crew aren’t exactly making Americans proud.
Are you using MPH or KPH?
In Canada, so KPH it is... :)
Taller windshield?
Nope it's just perfect for air management. If you want protection from the elements, it's not going to work for you.
Are you in miles or kms?
We’re in Canada eh! So, kph it is!
My friends has one , every time he rides it something falls off, and the screws get lost. Special sure budget atv you bet.
How does it do in mud?
Puts in 4x4 ... goes around mud hole
Actually just as good as the competition. It’s a trail / ride review and a brand new press unit btw. I dunked the one my friend bought in a couple of deep mud holes and it did ok with the trail / hardpack tires it has. I’d love to get a chance to do some minor mods like big mud tires, snorkels ( the cvt exhaust is a little on the low side for my taste) and a rad relocator. Then take it out againts similar equiped can-ams and polaris for the fun of it.