A Generative Modular Design & Patch Ideas: Suggested Systems 4
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- A meaty presentation in which I build a generative eurorack modular and explore patching strategies for making melodies and modulation in novel ways! And it's also kinda a big demo of the wonderful Music Thing Turing Machine and Mutable Instruments Stages. LINKS ↴
➜ Here's my Patreon, please chip in to fund future vids: / mylarmelodies 🙌
➜ Here's the system on ModularGrid to go investigate the modules: www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/v... (Note the Music Thing Chord Organ swap-out!)
➜ Here's More Suggested Systems videos: • Make a BUCHLA MUSIC EA...
➜ Here's another video on Generative patching I made! • An Intro to Making Gen...
00:00 Intro Montage!
02:10 What is generative music (on a modular)?
04:17 Generative for getting out of creative ruts.
05:37 Module Explanation: What do you need?
15:09 Patch 1: Turing Machine Melodies
16:45 How the Turing Machine works.
24:43 How to CV-controlled Turing Machine lock
26:50 How to push LFO values beyond panel spec
30:50 Patch 2: Turing Machine Pulses Expander Melodies
36:19 Importance of gain staging, using attenuators
41:08 Using sequential switches to make melody variations
44:58 Different pulse variations, different feel
48:00 Patch 3: Gates into mixer makes a Sequencer(!)
52:58 Rings: Unexpected Handbell Ringing Session
55:06 Breakbeat Bellringing
56:16 Steve Reich Riffs
58:06 Patch 4: Low-hanging LFO into Pitch Quantiser Fruit
1:02:14 Using a S&H module to sample the LFO for better results
1:04:36 Bach-y Riffs (LFO to S&H to Quantiser)
1:06:54 Patch 5: Building an Ambient Ensemble Patch
1:10:03 Using 2 LFOs and a VCA for periodic modulation
1:11:13 Making AND logic from a VCA
1:13:00 Loopy Bliss Begins.
1:14:51 Four Organs (Ambient Version).
1:17:41 Things become Boards of Canada.
1:21:17 Multiple Very Important Thoughts
#generative #modular #synths #howto #guide #ambient #turingmachine
Being a spiritual follow-up to this other vid I made on 'Generative Modular' principles: czcams.com/video/NvrxQbh6vAg/video.html
Mr Red Robot Key-Ring visibly disappointed not to be mentioned.
My life is different now!
Love this series. I legit set up a system like this in VCV rack before I start work most days and let it just play evolving drone-y goodness to help me maintain centered.
Ahh that’s a wicked shout, never thought of VCVing a relaxing “GTD” patch. Might have to try that 🧐
LOL, this is the purpose for which I sought out this video; don't know modular but want to use VCV (plus a custom quasicrystal metronome, and maybe various xenharmonic scales) for work background music.
This video made me realize how i know absolutely nothing about my synth yet. Cheers mate!
That did it. You unlocked the gateway to modular for me.
Late to the party but super grateful for this video!
"All my cables are falling off my grandmother" he said at 16:24, without a single snicker as if that is a completely normal thing to say 😂
What a good idea for cable management. I already have a grandmother.
She would be happy to stand there and hold my cables for me ;p
I was thinking exactly the same. Images of her with cables draped over her arms and around her neck 😂
I wish I still had a grandmother to hold my cables.
love this series. especially appreciate the restraint to keep these systems within 62HP. It's too easy to watch modular YT and think you need a wall of modules to make some music.
I'm so glad for another installment in this series!
Deciding what is good and what is bad.. That's actually rly deep.. I think it's the heart of all creativity
I love this series so much. I just got started with my modular journey and got my first few modules. I made music my whole life, but the modular thing just makes my head explode. Thanks for your great videos my friend!
Thanks for all the help! Your original generative video and the one about the importance of VCAs are the two videos that taught me the most and inspired me to get into eurorack. I've just started building my first system and I'm already in love.
Thank you so much for your tutorials! Your videos inspired me to take the plunge last year and commit to eurorack, and now this one has helped solidify exactly what direction I’m going to take my system going forward. And your podcast has accompanied me on many a long covid-lockdown stroll.
This is immensely helpful! As a newcomer to modular I appreciate the in-depth yet accessible way in which you present things -- thanks a lot!
Excellent video.
I love this series. So much variance and inspiration from a relatively small amount of modules.
Amazing as ever! Thank you for all the great content and inspiration you give the community
I really like this series. The information is great, and the run down and examples are great. I'm new to all this but this looks a lot like what i have been playing with in miRack, so its teaching me a few tricks and will help me improve my patches. I think other people have already posted similar praises but its true.
Best episode so far! A lot of interesting ideas, makes me want to try them out, even though I don't have modular at all right now (yet). Thanks!
Thanks - vcvrack.com/ for that! You can try it all right now 🤩
Love these videos, you really do a great job explaining and walking through it all. Well done Sir!
Amazing video. Soo many interesting ideas for patching. I particularly loved that part about using DC offset and sequential switch to change melodies.
This is such a good, educational video. Not only in terms of modular technique but especially philosophically in terms of what modular can do for your inspiration. Thanks.
Superb video , excellent tips, as usual. Love your passion and taste for adventure, and your musical experiments!
The gate sequencer trick is absolutely awesome. Great video as always !
Really love this episode and this entire series! We need more : )
Mutable Insteuments Marbles is a one-module alternative to your turing machine + quantizer + s&h + gate sequencer + attenuator + offset. Does all of it, cheaper, less hp. Ultimate generative modul imo.
Agree, but I think the idea is to deconstruct a little bit the principle behind generative using more basic modules. So each user can adapt to it with the individual tools ar hand. It would be cool do this all doepfer to get a step beyond.
I was thinking the same thing, but Marbles only has three gate outputs. The extra gate outputs would be cool to use with Stages in Ouroboros mode, although that would require replacing some modules with more modulation sources. Maybe a Transient Modules u4R or Plum Audio Apex in the 1U row in place of the Pointeuse (and USB power), although they're a lot less powerful and versatile than Stages. Or replace Chord Organ with a couple of 2hp LFOs, and switch Rings into Easter egg mode.
I was literally created a marbles vs turning machine pros and cons I think you summed it up. I do see the attraction and usefulness of the aTuring machine set up, especially if you already have the other compnents
I based my own small generative system on it. It’s fun to self patch it to get even crazier things.
really appreciate this video.
Just started building my modular, and even with just three modules, nothing is more satisfying than just sitting back and listening to one LFO modulate my 4ms Ensemble, with a little reverb and delay. I need more utilities. The 4ms Ensemble is soooo much fun. I plan on building my whole system around it! So glad I started doing this.
i love how good you are at explaining things!!!! amazing video
the mixer and pulses combo was inspired. woe... never thunk of that
Good use of DFAM aswell
I don't have the Pulses expander (yet) but it occurred to me that when mixing the gates like this, you should get the opportunity to adjust how often small steps happen vs large steps - by mixing the more frequent pulses at a lower level (little trills?) and the infrequent pulses at a higher level. I was just tinkering with this idea in my Doepfer system with the A-149-1+2 but not terribly satisfactorily. I definitely need to spend more quality time with the A-149-1 manual! When combined with various outputs from a clock divider from the same original clock source, though... fun times to be had
@@jsleeio I love my A-149-1. Its great to self patch it taking the outputs and feeding them into a lfo or maths and fm the clock. You get little bursts of notes. Say with the lfo you take one of the 149 s outputs say SRV bottom output and mult the output to the 1v/oct input of your oscillator and the other to both input on maths 1 and use the EOR output of maths 1 to clock the 149. This is what i used on this tune i did czcams.com/video/o17xHgle-9U/video.html. Take it easy
Same thought, can’t wait to try that!
you could kind of make a janky MeloDicer this way...
This is such an inspirational video, so many of these patches sound absolutely amazing
Wow. Nearly an hour and a half of content. As a prior YT creator (currently on long hiatus) covering multiple subjects, I know what it takes to produce even a few minutes of content. My hat is waaaay off to you. You continue to be awesome!
Your series has influenced me greatly. Basically you are my version of Steevio amd I’m “stealing from you mercilessly” but with attribution as well!! Thank you for all your ideas. Amazing insights and you are a good teacher as well. I’m old dog but learning new tricks from you every time I watch one of your videos. 💯🙏🏻
This video makes me genuinely happy. I started my journey into the wonderful world of modular generative music about a year ago and I have not regretted a single euro spent on buying modules. It's such a wonderful vehicle to journey into uncharted sonic territory. Thanks to @mylarmelodies for inspiring me to delve even deeper.
As always, very entertaining and educational. I have some of these modules myself and will try some of these techniques. The most were not new to me, but this video gave some inspirations to patch differently then usual and do more „very positively modulated“ patches.
Love the power coming out of your rings 😆. I lost track of the Turing machine a year ago or so, couldn’t get my head around it. After some modular experience and this vid I’m definitely getting one. Thanks for the great ideas again!
And another masterfully crafted tutorial!
I simply can't keep from lauding your attitude towards those of us with no sight: like it ain't no thang - just a matter of fact.
As a completely sightless synthesist deeply into this vast world of different possibilities, it's really nice to sense the appreciation of the fact as not an obstacle, though we really must be highly concious of the tools to choose in those modern times of huge amount of choices, but also touchscreens and deep menu systems.
Anyway, keep up the good work: musically diverse and nicely narrated.
Thanks Aleksei, you're welcome - I've met a few electronic musicians without sight and so I'm conscious to watch my language when I say "you see this or that" without saying what I'm talking about (I still miss the occasional one though apologies!) and so try to narrate everything carefully - it makes it clearer for everyone to be fair! As these aren't reviews I tend not to talk about shortcomings (not really relevant to the purpose and I would argue there's really no 'bad' gear made these days), but quite often there are some gotchas with menus and led toggle states on some modules, I'll try to mention if I encounter them. In this it occurs to me the Pico Quant has a 'wraparound' menu which is a tricky aspect, but at least there are only 8 choices of quantised scale. Anyway thanks again!! x
Great series. Keep up the good work dude!
Thanks for these great ideas. I found it easy to think generative stuff needed a lot of gear, but as usual with your small system films this shows that taking care about choices is what is most important. Intentionality is the best way.
You are easily the best modular creator on CZcams. Will be sending you an update on IG soon. Thanks again from Chicago.
The BEST youtube series.
Thanks for cool ideas and reminding me of things i already new. Just the boost I needed after an unproductive few weeks.
This tutorial has literally just convinced me that my resistance to purchase modular gear is futile. Who wants to buy my left kidney?
I bid £50....and I'll throw in some patch leads.
Will trade a Chronoblob for a good kidney.
just get rid of them both now, it is inevitable in the long run, so save yourself some time...
@@tencentcat I didn’t say it was a good kidney....
super helpful and inspiring post - great series, thanks for this!!
For newbies such as myself, this is very valuable vid. Just to see the creative process is awesome.
Great stuff! Super helpful for the confidence. Cheers
Steve Reich Mode also reminds me of King Crimson/Robert Fripp riffs, especially when you shifted the chord centre.
Also, every time I hear Rings, it makes me want it even more, that thing has magic in it........
Excellent. Loving these.
Excellent ;-) Love these videos. Very inspiring.
Oh lawwwd have mercy! I could listen to that last patch for hours! 😍
Great stuff! Particularly enjoyed the Bach fugue with the S&H about 1:04!
This is pretty awesome. I tried my hand in modular with the Makenoise 0-Coast and realized it's WAY too complicated for me.
I'll be sticking to synths with patches, but I really enjoyed watching this video. It's amazing the kind of sonic soundscapes that people can create with modular.
Thanks again for the video, awesome stuff.
This is such a good modular educational channel. Thanks for sharing your knowlegde.
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I can't even begin to list the many gems of knowledge in this series, truly brilliant! If you happen to use/own a Digitakt, I would love to see your take on generative music-making using that machine.
You’re a very good teacher. Thank you
Thanks for the great video as usual. I’ve Stripboarded a diy version of radio music because of your vids - and will also make a similar chord version at some point! Also planning on stripboarding diy version of Turing machine and friends! (Hope they work 🙈) After watching this I’ve love to get into mutable instruments for some different sounds! Thanks!
I looked up Patch the Card Game and ended up getting my own pack. Love how it’s getting me back into modular
I have a small generative system too, that I put together after watching your earlier video about generative music. I like being constrained by just ten modules. It’s gotten me to experiment with patching things in as many different ways as I can.
I can't believe this sort of thing exists and I get to watch it AND there is a narrative explanation. 80% of it goes over my head but I did find myself literally on the edge of my seat a couple of times.
I'm here for you! x
Wow. What a breath of fresh air. Your vids continue to inspire me on my new modular journey.
Thanks a lot for the inspiring video, got loads from it. Take it easy.
Great video as usual! As I was watching it the postie arrived with my 2LPG having left Thailand weeks ago. Spooky.
"oh no!... the pitch" wonderful video, learning tons of tricks from you.
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Goddamn that was very inspiring!! Thanks a lot for that one!!! And I finally learned what the WRITE SWITCH on the Turing Machine is for..!!!
Sounds very nice!
Made an entire track based on the melody making ideas at 48:00. Mixed gate signals through the quantizer as melody generators-who knew?! Thanks for the inspiration!
I have watched this about three times now and am still learning from it. You are the reason I have a Turing machine for which I’m very grateful because I adore it. Sold the Bloom to make way for it, which is technically more capable, but I just prefer the TM. I now need Rings.. I’d love a genuine MI Rings, but they’re getting hard to find now :( I beg you though, please make more of this style tutorial!
I love all of these videos
Thx very much for this so helpful tutorial Man!! 🙏🌴
Love the backstory bit about the crystal!
Thanks, After watching some of your vids and contemplating over generative music I came to an idea : I used a sample and hold lfo, routed it into multiple quantiser as cv-Filter and those quantised cv into my ( virtual) rings. The result was pleasant and I didn’t need fancy ( expensive) modules and now I see you explain it 1:02:52
This whole video is gold-dust 👌
the patch at 1:15:31 literally instant bursted tears to my eyes...NICE VID!!!! learnt SOOOOOO much from it
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I keep referencing this series cuz it’s so great !
Thanks!! x
Great job!
my favorite part of this video is in the beginning where it's just your hands and the music
Very inspiring thanks!
our patreon saint of generative explorations
Loving these Suggested Systems vids. I’m a modular newbie, just feeling my way. My thing is Dark Ambient achieved primarily through manipulation of long form audio. Might you consider a Suggested System in the 62 HP format for audio mangling, granularisation, and general wrangling? I’ll be using an IPad for sequencing and probably for some audio processing too, so integrating that would be cool.
Ha, sitting here with a weird smile on my face because of the "Ultra BOC-vibes", fantastic tranformation :D
And many thnx for all explanation, just build my first 3u modular system with generative vibes and now i'm hungry to ALSO get controls for interaction (thinking Intellijel Tetrapad). *lost in the cable jungle
I once made a generative patch on a Buchla in the 80s on a piece for my Electronic Music class. It had 2 sequencers controlling each other's sequence rates, and the result was quite unpredictably "nature"-sounding, as far as I can describe it, like a jungle of unknown creatures. I think I have a cassette of the piece somewhere, but unfortunately I didn't record the patch. I wish I had access to a similar system so I could play with it some more.
Pico Voice is SO good. Have been mulling over getting a second one.
I really love this setup. I hope I can work up to this exact setup. You made it do exactly what I’ve been looking for and in the small sort of arrangement I was worried I wouldn’t find. It’s kind of a good thing that I can’t just buy this as a complete unit or I would not sleep at night for the GAS.
Totally dig the unpredictability of some of the musical sounding parts barely balancing on the edge of chaos.
A note on stages: I learned the hard way that patching it right to left when using gated stages, but left to right when working with non-gated stages is better, because the moment you want to make a gated one (an envelope, for example), you find out you need to move all your single-stage LFOs around and it's a royal pain
Thank you, this was inspirational. As result I got myself a quantizer and a turing machine. Most of the modular videos are about techno and beats, but we're missing the variety of slow generative hisses, bliibs'n'bloobs and beautifull klangs
Brilliant!
Your videos are always so inspiring, you just give me so many ideas for patches. But my wallet always hates me watching these videos as i end up adding more and more modules to my wishlist..
But in all seriousness, thanks for putting these videos up. I always learn so much.
1:00:38 "Kool and, indeed, the gang" I can't breathe.. anyway A grade vid as always mate
Legend at 57:00 - love this idea.... patching similar tomorrow :)
Goddam I feel like this video was literally made for me. Cheers 🤙🤙🤙
18:59 "That is Techno, right there" = Massive Sales Bump incoming
wow that last patch really revitalized my interest in rings
Yes MM listening to regenerative streams can suggest ideas for conventional and non-conventional pieces.
Thank you! 🙏🏽
This is the video I’ve been looking for now for weeks!!! Just starting my journey - built a custom case. Scored a Turing module for a good price. Built a Pulses for it and bought the Start Up module. Have just been messing around with it plugged into my werkstatt. I clearly need some “voice” modules but don’t really know where to go from here???
Oh sweet another Suggested Systems video...holy crap it's 1hr 24min!
Those last patches are insane. You should make an ambient album
..gives post-rock chills : )
As a variation, try inserting a slew limiter before the quantiser in your turing gates -> mixer -> quantiser patch, and slow the turing clock right down
wow, monster video today :D
The hands are definitely in top form today.
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Really great video sir. Im just about to enter into the modular world via a rainmaker and the same case. Just bored of normal FX and modular FX chains are drool worthy. Excited to see whats possible. That turning machine looks like a must have down the line. Very nice. I suppose I dont need a quant as Im using the case as an FX send and sending stuff in a key already plus the rainmaker has pitch control, right? Im amazed how many possibilites are available from such a small case! Awesome for newbies like meself!
The Quant does quarter tone tuning wich is very fun indeed !