It should have at least been mounted to a pole or other place since the ground provides a solid surface on which to press against while grinding. That's not a real-world scenario since the lock will be hanging free from the wheel and post to which it's attached. That makes it much harder to keep the blade straight without snapping it. Although I absolutely agree that all tests need to be done with a battery-powered grinder and never an AC one since they have full power 100% of the time, and provide more torque and power. It seems like a great lock. If I had a really expensive ebike or chopper, I'd use TWO of them. It'd just not be worth the time and effort to take both off. The company should give a discount for a package of 2. At time of 10:00 watch closely and you can see the cutting disk being ground away. Very impressive lock.
The top three lame smug YT bike security comments: 1) LPL will pick it in 20 seconds! 2) They’ll just cut the frame! 3) They’ll just cut the rack! Real-world rebuttal: 1) Thieves don’t pick locks. 2) When thieves choose expensive bikes, why destroy the most expensive part? And when they don’t care if the bike’s $800 or $5,000, they’re intending to dump it quickly for $100 to buy drugs. They can’t unload a destroyed bike quickly on the next street corner. 3) Yes, racks can be cut, but it’s rare. Thieves are lazy opportunists and will move on to easier targets. Plus, if your bike is locked most effectively with front wheel off and next to the rear wheel, cutting the rack is of no use - the bike is still completely unrideable. This also defeats #2 above. Win-win! There are always exceptions. But my experience In avoiding theft of very nice bikes over 40 years says using the best locks & your smarts will put the odds in your favor. Don’t lock a bicycle up outside over night. Use GPS trackers. Record your serial number & register your bike. Buy insurance as a last resort to attenuate your exposure. If you have 3 or more $3,000+ bikes, the responsible thing to do is get insurance. But Hiplok gets an A+ in my book for making a HUGE step forward to thwart bike thieves. Kudos!! ------- Advice: Use any quality lock SMARTLY! Don’t just lazily put it through one wheel spoke like in the video. This WILL encourage a thief to destroy your moto’s front wheel to steal the whole bike. Go through the rim instead. Or more than one spoke AND the rotor. Grasp as much with the lock as you can. Go through the most stout thing you can. It annoys me to see lock companies advertise people casually (& lazily) locking a bicycle through the frame top tube only. Doing this does encourage thieves to cut your frame! Why are lock makers marketing a security product in a way that more easily enables someone to defeat the sole purpose of their product? (I think it’s to sell convenience, IMHO.) Make what you lock through on your bike stout AND expensive. Not a single easy-to-cut part like one aluminum spoke of a mag or aluminum wheel. Anyway, NEVER use a quality bike lock only on a thin bicycle frame tube. Lock through the head tube (has a steerer tube inside), the seat tube, or even better, through the rear wheel & tire between the seat & chain stays. Even better if your front wheel is included on the other side of the rack or pole. That locks both wheels AND frame with ONE lock. The Hiplok D1000 can do this with almost all road bikes & mountain bikes with narrower street tires. Take the time to utilize your lock to its fullest advantage and thieves will move on.
First U-lock test I’ve seen where it defeated the angle grinder attack….as we know, if you make a bike a poor option for a thief, that’s 99% of the battle
Thank you for showing me this video. I’ve watched many videos of people trying to get into these locks. I have succeeded within seconds but you are the only one that has done it with the rubber on the metal and a battery operated angle grinder. I am definitely can I buy one of these or two of these locks, as I believe that the thieves not going to bring any more than two discs, and if they have for people to angle grinders I’m sure they are gonna get a bit nervous and walk away and even if they did get through the first bit of metal, they would need to cut it a second time because of the shape of the lock you cannot turn or twist the metal material as it is square
By making the scum bags change the discs on their Aldi special angle grinders mid theft it gives you and the boys plenty of opportunity to unleash a full barrage of WWE finishing moves on them. Bike safe, vigilante Double Dragon style punishment administered, OiOi!
The sad thing is that thieves in case of unsuccessful attempts also tend to release their frustration on damaging the bike in the end. Heard of destroyed wheels, spokes, frames, ... best bike lock I ever saw was a smoke-bomb under the saddle, released when bike moved away. Other option, use quick links and a waxed chain. Take chain away, thief can't ride away and your hands stay clean when adding/removing chain
I bought the D1000 from the kickstarter campaign as I read good things about it. I’ve seen many videos of attempts to cut the D1000 with a cordless angle grinder and normal metal cutting discs,be interested to see how it would fare against a diamond tipped disc, haven’t seen anyone try that yet.
Hi, yes I too have thought about that, and don,t really know an answer. However I would assume if the thief knows its a d1000 and cuts the metal poles the bike is secured to, which are the usual, it would be normally 2 cuts anyway, and then they could not ride the bike away as it still has the d1000 on it locked to frame and wheel hopefully. So would have to carry it away or put it in a van, then they would still have to remove the D1000 when at there place which would probaly not be worth their while. Makes me wonder if an acetelyne torch would go through a D 1000. Regards Graham Tarling
The big point IMHO is that when other things are being cut, other interests become involved and there's no doubt a theft is occuring, instead of someone that lost their keys.
I own a HipLok D1000 and a LiteLok X3. Use them both during overnight away-from-home parking. I also use a 12 gauge counter measure blank perimeter trip wire charge under the bike cover. Anything can be defeated, just as JFK"s secret service detail. I just don't want to make it easy for the bitches trying to steal my motorcycle.
I got my D1000 in October and has now given me peace of mind knowing im 99.9% certain my bike is still there and yes I also have 3 motion sensors on my bike
I was wondering the same. I have one, and just thought about it. What if they try to cut the top part? Is it the same material? It doesn't feel like. I hope it is 😂
the fact that you cut many different areas and didn't stay in one area says a lot........this is a very good look but its a bit deceitful to just now at one spot a little then switch then switch
I would imagine the thief just getting pissed off and cutting through your frame to get it off . Then your bike is worthless for you and the thief hasn’t lost anything 😢
Had this happen to me once I had my bike locked with 2 locks, they broke the first off and couldn't get the 2nd one off so they smashed my derailuer to pieces with a rock
This is rare. Probably left the bike out overnight in the worst part of town. Lots of details missing in this post. Provide more, or you’re just throwing out oft-repeated baloney. I heard all about liquid nitrogen being used to break locks in the 1980’s. Everyone was freaked out. But then the campus cops (at the #2 worst location in the US for bike theft at the time AND the #1 chemistry university in the world - in other words, LOTS of liquid N2 available) said, “Thieves don’t steal bikes this way!” Urban myth debunked by factual statistics. But it persisted for years. Remember the “bump key” scare of about 10 years ago? I do. Everyone was freaking out about it. The media reporting, “That $50 Schlage lock on your front door is USELESS!!!” So a BUNCH of people spent hundreds or thousands of dollars to have locksmiths upgrade their home locks with Safeco or Medeco “bump proof” locks. But what about the 20 flimsy 1/8” window panes all around your house?!!!! If someone REALLY wants into your house, they’ll get in (I could Sawzall through a wall in about five minutes, rendering bump key & bullet proof windows useless)! OMG, we’re gonna die! All the media hype & scare tactics quickly died & was forgotten. So follow sound security advice & dont fall for smug potshots from the CZcams peanut gallery!
Be interesting to see just how powerful a grinder and how expensive a disc you'd need to do damage to it.. future video if the sponsors don't forbid it? :D (nvm, just found a video tested to destruction on a non sponsored channel)
Well, you get through everything, but depends on time and effort. With an AC powered angle grinder and the bike locked into clamps, it takes about 5 discs and 20+ min. Not sure if this is the effort a thief can / wants to put in, as also the lock will not be hold into position and usually no AC is available on bike racks. Bike thieves give it up to 3 min. until the lock has to be open. So that lock definitely would resist a 3 min. attack. It has been opened in under 1 minute however, but this was using a professional plasma-cutter. So if you're a bike thief running around with that sort of equipment, good on you.
No doubt he could pick it quickly but the majority of bike thieves are thuggish knobheads that have 0 skill in lockpicking. Grab an angle grinder, make a bunch of noise during day light where everyone can see you, steal a bike and threaten anyone that comes close.
Try using the correct cutting disc. That's for stainless steel only. It'll only cut soft metals. No chance against any hardened steel You first mistake was using the grinder and discs the lock manufacturer sent you. There's a reason they chose those ones. "inox" discs are for stainless steel. The aluminium ladder you cut through is the kind of hardness those discs are designed for.
Agreed, although not what they're meant for, your average thick/angry theif won't be doing a personal risk assessment before having a go with a diamond cutter.
Sadly ive read that the only part that is protected is the shackle, not the locking casing itself. There is only aluminum and hardened steel, making it way easier to cut.
@@kojindan I use them on a weekly basis, a mains powered angle grinder with a good quality motor will outperform any dremel for brute force cutting like this. Dremels are only really superior for fine control.
Ben I love you but that grinder isn’t worth a weasel. It keeps cutting out ? I don’t understand why it’s cutting out as I work with grinders all the time. These thieves have already stolen decent grinders. Definitely looks a good lock though When cutting less pressure works best
So the rubber or whatever Hiplok use around the lock is what sticks to the grinder to eventually slow it down and stall it, as I got further into it the rubber it got worse until I eventually got to the metal all those disks later, 🤷♂️ I’m just the tester, you’re best bet for any serious replies would be contacting Hiplok. I tried less pressure and it hardly went through and stalled, tried harder pressure and cut a little more yet stalled 🤷♂️🤣
It is all marketing. It cuts out because the battery is too small. Looks like a decent product but all these incompetent grinder attacks are doing it a disservice.
Depends on how secure wheels are, I haven't done motorbike but normally on push bikes front wheel (possibly through or to frame) as rear wheel a pain to steal but if got multiple can do both wheels, on motorbike I probably have 3 locks like one to secure the bike and two disc brake locks to make so wheels can't turn, a friend at bike project has one holding his lever in
Who taught you how to cut a lock? Is Hiplock paying you? Little kickback if you "can't" cut their new lock? They haven't sent one to LPL, that's the only review that matters Anymore.
I would like to see a rating on all security devices in accordance with a system set up by a consortium of security breaking experts. This rating would be comparable across all brands that use it. As they are, ratings are only comparable across the offerings of the same brand.
I’m afraid to say. This grinder is terrible, as is the reviewers technique. The grinder stopping like that is because of these to factors. That said, i am about to purchase this lock cos it’s awesome.
At $300.00 that lock should be impossible to cut. I just lock my bike someplace I can see it from where I have to go. If anyone starts showing an interest in my bike I walk right up to it and that changes everything.
Imagine having to hire a locksmith to release your bike because you lost your key or the lock won't open. How much would the bill be? Maybe call the fire department instead and ask them to bring their jaws of life?
Too small for e-bikes though please make a bigger bike one! Also, if they can’t cut the lock, they’ll just cut what the lock is attached to instead . All locks do is buy you a little bit of time. I wouldn’t leave my e-bike for more than 5 minutes even with this lock and it would have to be within earshot or eye shot.
Don't say that ... I'm building a £6-8k Trek Emonda ALR to use as daily bike, yes I got a carbon 6.7kg bike but 90kg weight limit, I'm making one that base ready to use about 6.88kg and 125kg rider limit
To either: A: Find your damaged bike dumped somewhere B: Find your GPS tracker dumped somewhere C: Find the last signal was a parking lot, and it's now inside a truck somewhere
A Flexvolt grinder using Makita 0.8mm thin discs may slaughter it. That grinder you are using looks cheap and nasty and seems to be cutting out itself,and those discs you are using look well thick,almost like grinding discs. Therefore,i deduce this test to be major BS.
Under 3 minutes in a vice and under 4 minutes strapped on a pole. This is how much time actually it takes to cut the lock. No idea why the gentleman in the video is struggling so much, but yeah.
I've seen others with plugged in not battery angle grinders with multiply wheels cut through. However it to a lot of time. The question is on todays lock market, what lock/locks would you choose?
Nope. 220V grinder went through a BUNCH of discs and took 10 minutes to cut ONE side. Gotta cut the other side to get the lock off to steal the thing in question! So 20 minutes, 10 cutting discs & a lot of noise. That’s pretty damn stout! I’ll take one! (I bought two actually.) But not according to you. You “heard” it could be cut “with a bigger/better/higher quality/ blah, blah, blah” tool, so forget it. Here, I’ll save you the effort: A plasma cutter defeated the D1000 in 10 seconds. 10 seconds! So the lock is useless, Hiplok is a fraud, and people should just give up. Leave your bike unlocked because it will just be stolen in seconds anyway. Better yet, just ride on over to the nearest hive of thieves and hand ‘em your bike and get the suspense over with! There, problem solved!
was going to point that out, cutting discs can be hard to tell if you don't know, grinding discs are almost impossible to get wrong though as the have the bowled disc. one of the best discs I ever found was a super skinny cutting disc when I had to cut through some wrought iron curtain poles (20 of the f'krs to be precise).
Stop putting a ton of pressure on the disks and intentionally stalling out the grinders! This seems like a nice BS test where he intentionally makes it fail.
It’s no coincidence that bike theft is high in the UK & United States. Two countries with decades of growing wealth & income inequality. Good the UK just narrowly missed making it much worse with the proposed but defeated tax cut for the wealthy. (Ironically tax cuts always cost those who voted for them more taxes! My city keeps asking for more and more properly tax assessments. Despite the 2017 corporate tax cuts just passed!) The ACTUAL way to prevent bike theft & crime in general is to make legitimate work more lucrative than bike theft & crime. This is the simple concept of “market forces.” The right LOVE market forces when they benefit the rich. But not so much the rest of us. They suspend market forces when convenient: bringing in foreign workers to pick the harvest at poverty wages. And when that fails, they just build more prisons! (Paid for by REGRESSIVE taxation, of course! Can’t let law enforcement affect the bottom line, doncha know!)
I like the way you kept the experiment real world by not sticking it in a vice and also using a battery grinder not a AC / mains one. Awesome.
It should have at least been mounted to a pole or other place since the ground provides a solid surface on which to press against while grinding. That's not a real-world scenario since the lock will be hanging free from the wheel and post to which it's attached. That makes it much harder to keep the blade straight without snapping it. Although I absolutely agree that all tests need to be done with a battery-powered grinder and never an AC one since they have full power 100% of the time, and provide more torque and power. It seems like a great lock. If I had a really expensive ebike or chopper, I'd use TWO of them. It'd just not be worth the time and effort to take both off. The company should give a discount for a package of 2.
At time of 10:00 watch closely and you can see the cutting disk being ground away. Very impressive lock.
The top three lame smug YT bike security comments:
1) LPL will pick it in 20 seconds!
2) They’ll just cut the frame!
3) They’ll just cut the rack!
Real-world rebuttal:
1) Thieves don’t pick locks.
2) When thieves choose expensive bikes, why destroy the most expensive part? And when they don’t care if the bike’s $800 or $5,000, they’re intending to dump it quickly for $100 to buy drugs. They can’t unload a destroyed bike quickly on the next street corner.
3) Yes, racks can be cut, but it’s rare. Thieves are lazy opportunists and will move on to easier targets. Plus, if your bike is locked most effectively with front wheel off and next to the rear wheel, cutting the rack is of no use - the bike is still completely unrideable. This also defeats #2 above. Win-win!
There are always exceptions. But my experience In avoiding theft of very nice bikes over 40 years says using the best locks & your smarts will put the odds in your favor.
Don’t lock a bicycle up outside over night.
Use GPS trackers.
Record your serial number & register your bike.
Buy insurance as a last resort to attenuate your exposure.
If you have 3 or more $3,000+ bikes, the responsible thing to do is get insurance.
But Hiplok gets an A+ in my book for making a HUGE step forward to thwart bike thieves. Kudos!!
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Advice:
Use any quality lock SMARTLY!
Don’t just lazily put it through one wheel spoke like in the video. This WILL encourage a thief to destroy your moto’s front wheel to steal the whole bike.
Go through the rim instead. Or more than one spoke AND the rotor. Grasp as much with the lock as you can. Go through the most stout thing you can.
It annoys me to see lock companies advertise people casually (& lazily) locking a bicycle through the frame top tube only.
Doing this does encourage thieves to cut your frame! Why are lock makers marketing a security product in a way that more easily enables someone to defeat the sole purpose of their product? (I think it’s to sell convenience, IMHO.)
Make what you lock through on your bike stout AND expensive. Not a single easy-to-cut part like one aluminum spoke of a mag or aluminum wheel.
Anyway, NEVER use a quality bike lock only on a thin bicycle frame tube.
Lock through the head tube (has a steerer tube inside), the seat tube, or even better, through the rear wheel & tire between the seat & chain stays. Even better if your front wheel is included on the other side of the rack or pole. That locks both wheels AND frame with ONE lock. The Hiplok D1000 can do this with almost all road bikes & mountain bikes with narrower street tires.
Take the time to utilize your lock to its fullest advantage and thieves will move on.
One of the best comment on bike lock security I've seen so far, will definitely apply 😃
This is great, I'd love photos
First U-lock test I’ve seen where it defeated the angle grinder attack….as we know, if you make a bike a poor option for a thief, that’s 99% of the battle
Thank you for showing me this video. I’ve watched many videos of people trying to get into these locks. I have succeeded within seconds but you are the only one that has done it with the rubber on the metal and a battery operated angle grinder. I am definitely can I buy one of these or two of these locks, as I believe that the thieves not going to bring any more than two discs, and if they have for people to angle grinders I’m sure they are gonna get a bit nervous and walk away and even if they did get through the first bit of metal, they would need to cut it a second time because of the shape of the lock you cannot turn or twist the metal material as it is square
By making the scum bags change the discs on their Aldi special angle grinders mid theft it gives you and the boys plenty of opportunity to unleash a full barrage of WWE finishing moves on them.
Bike safe, vigilante Double Dragon style punishment administered, OiOi!
Bike thief will still have an angle grinder to fight back.
@@richpak1398 baseball bat defeats angle grinder
@@geegee8625 That's nice. Imagine it's not at home where they choose to steal it from? Do you carry the bat on your rides?
@@uncrunch398 chilli 🌶 in a lemon 🍋 jiffy is perfectly legal and does the job blindingly from a distance
Every bike I’ve watched stolen on cctv so far was stolen with a dewalt or other name brand grinder which is likely stolen too
The sad thing is that thieves in case of unsuccessful attempts also tend to release their frustration on damaging the bike in the end. Heard of destroyed wheels, spokes, frames, ... best bike lock I ever saw was a smoke-bomb under the saddle, released when bike moved away. Other option, use quick links and a waxed chain. Take chain away, thief can't ride away and your hands stay clean when adding/removing chain
I bought the D1000 from the kickstarter campaign as I read good things about it.
I’ve seen many videos of attempts to cut the D1000 with a cordless angle grinder and normal metal cutting discs,be interested to see how it would fare against a diamond tipped disc, haven’t seen anyone try that yet.
Then it would become easier to just cut the bikestand or the frame where the lock is attached to.
It would be nearly doible the time using a diamond blade,
You wont need to change it but 40 mins and 8 battery changes
@@geegee8625 You think these people walk around with diamond coated cutting disks?
@@Raz0rking can you please explain why it seems so far fetch for a thief to own one
@@geegee8625 To expensive when normal cuttings disks cut almost all locks without any issue?
It’s a good idea wrapping it in rubber the rubbers binding on to to blade and cutting the motor out 👍👍
Metal, rubber, water, the way they say it, lover the British accent.
So will the thieves now just cut whatever you have locked the bike to instead of the lock?!
Hi, yes I too have thought about that, and don,t really know an answer. However I would assume if the thief knows its a d1000 and cuts the metal poles the bike is secured to, which are the usual, it would be normally 2 cuts anyway, and then they could not ride the bike away as it still has the d1000 on it locked to frame and wheel hopefully. So would have to carry it away or put it in a van, then they would still have to remove the D1000 when at there place which would probaly not be worth their while. Makes me wonder if an acetelyne torch would go through a D 1000.
Regards Graham Tarling
The big point IMHO is that when other things are being cut, other interests become involved and there's no doubt a theft is occuring, instead of someone that lost their keys.
They ought to figure out how to make chains or cables from this stuff.
I own a HipLok D1000 and a LiteLok X3. Use them both during overnight away-from-home parking. I also use a 12 gauge counter measure blank perimeter trip wire charge under the bike cover. Anything can be defeated, just as JFK"s secret service detail. I just don't want to make it easy for the bitches trying to steal my motorcycle.
So they provide the tool to try to break their lock. Not sus at all.
Proper impressed! Must grab myself one!
Thank you nice video and wow that trail looks so fun : )
Looks to be a epic lock
I got my D1000 in October and has now given me peace of mind knowing im 99.9% certain my bike is still there and yes I also have 3 motion sensors on my bike
Instead of attacking the U Lock, attack the locking mechanism instead.
I was wondering the same. I have one, and just thought about it. What if they try to cut the top part? Is it the same material? It doesn't feel like. I hope it is 😂
I'd love to try it with flexovit disks Australia There very thin . 1.5 mm
the fact that you cut many different areas and didn't stay in one area says a lot........this is a very good look but its a bit deceitful to just now at one spot a little then switch then switch
I would imagine the thief just getting pissed off and cutting through your frame to get it off . Then your bike is worthless for you and the thief hasn’t lost anything 😢
Had this happen to me once I had my bike locked with 2 locks, they broke the first off and couldn't get the 2nd one off so they smashed my derailuer to pieces with a rock
Having anything of value has its risk. I will be buying the D1000. I'm more worried about thieves than vandals.
This is rare.
Probably left the bike out overnight in the worst part of town.
Lots of details missing in this post.
Provide more, or you’re just throwing out oft-repeated baloney.
I heard all about liquid nitrogen being used to break locks in the 1980’s. Everyone was freaked out. But then the campus cops (at the #2 worst location in the US for bike theft at the time AND the #1 chemistry university in the world - in other words, LOTS of liquid N2 available) said,
“Thieves don’t steal bikes this way!” Urban myth debunked by factual statistics. But it persisted for years.
Remember the “bump key” scare of about 10 years ago? I do. Everyone was freaking out about it. The media reporting, “That $50 Schlage lock on your front door is USELESS!!!”
So a BUNCH of people spent hundreds or thousands of dollars to have locksmiths upgrade their home locks with Safeco or Medeco “bump proof” locks.
But what about the 20 flimsy 1/8” window panes all around your house?!!!!
If someone REALLY wants into your house, they’ll get in (I could Sawzall through a wall in about five minutes, rendering bump key & bullet proof windows useless)!
OMG, we’re gonna die!
All the media hype & scare tactics quickly died & was forgotten.
So follow sound security advice & dont fall for smug potshots from the CZcams peanut gallery!
Be interesting to see just how powerful a grinder and how expensive a disc you'd need to do damage to it.. future video if the sponsors don't forbid it? :D
(nvm, just found a video tested to destruction on a non sponsored channel)
Well, you get through everything, but depends on time and effort. With an AC powered angle grinder and the bike locked into clamps, it takes about 5 discs and 20+ min. Not sure if this is the effort a thief can / wants to put in, as also the lock will not be hold into position and usually no AC is available on bike racks. Bike thieves give it up to 3 min. until the lock has to be open. So that lock definitely would resist a 3 min. attack. It has been opened in under 1 minute however, but this was using a professional plasma-cutter. So if you're a bike thief running around with that sort of equipment, good on you.
I just grab a 9" battery angle grinder to try this
Doesn't look like they gave you a quality angle grinder
One question: what do you do if you lose your key of the d1000??
I bet Lock Picking Lawyer could.
LPL would shred this
I would genuinely be interested to see,
I came here to say this 🤣 give him 20 seconds
Ya I'd like to see him go after the lock itself
No doubt he could pick it quickly but the majority of bike thieves are thuggish knobheads that have 0 skill in lockpicking. Grab an angle grinder, make a bunch of noise during day light where everyone can see you, steal a bike and threaten anyone that comes close.
Would have been interesting if you would have used your own discs for the grinder.
Thin flexovit Australia
And a decent grinder that doesn’t cut out under load.
@@sjv6598 I noticed that too...poxy little battery too
I’ve seen thieves use a metal diamond blade to cut locks. With the portable angle grinder. Maybe you should’ve used that?
Try using the correct cutting disc.
That's for stainless steel only. It'll only cut soft metals. No chance against any hardened steel
You first mistake was using the grinder and discs the lock manufacturer sent you. There's a reason they chose those ones. "inox" discs are for stainless steel.
The aluminium ladder you cut through is the kind of hardness those discs are designed for.
Does it protect against freezing the locking mechanism and then smashing it with a club hammer???
what about using a diamond angel grinder blade on it? I yet to see this happen on any video with the d1000
Probably dangerous as they aren't for cutting metal
Agreed, although not what they're meant for, your average thick/angry theif won't be doing a personal risk assessment before having a go with a diamond cutter.
Diamond cutter takes twice as long
Sadly ive read that the only part that is protected is the shackle, not the locking casing itself. There is only aluminum and hardened steel, making it way easier to cut.
Put a diamond blade in it see how it goes
They're going to cut directly on the post where it's locked to.
This assuming the post is easy to cute i can just lock it to a big metal thing
All for our beloved 😎 “if you love her, buy her a diamond” 🔒
Gonna have to test it with a bad boy 40v makita angle grinder or the plug in version just to see what it takes to get through it
Not a Dremel? xD
@@kojindan the angle grinders would be much more powerful
@@Duncan23 Hmmm, are you sure? =P
@@kojindan I use them on a weekly basis, a mains powered angle grinder with a good quality motor will outperform any dremel for brute force cutting like this. Dremels are only really superior for fine control.
2.5 discs to get through with mains powered. video is out there.
As long as your lock can resist 1 disk or 1 battery, then your bike is safe. No need to spend 300 on a lock as you will have to replace it anyways.
Nicht nur am Bügel sägen. Am Verschluss selbst habt ihr nicht geflext. Würde mich interessieren ob er auch so widerstandsfähig ist
There is me like, blade should go other way round as says how should be used in manual
Be interesting to see how it fairs against a 7" flexvolt grinder
Ben I love you but that grinder isn’t worth a weasel.
It keeps cutting out ?
I don’t understand why it’s cutting out as I work with grinders all the time.
These thieves have already stolen decent grinders.
Definitely looks a good lock though
When cutting less pressure works best
That's the whole point of the lock. It's designed to cause the cutting disc to bind up and stall the grinder.
So the rubber or whatever Hiplok use around the lock is what sticks to the grinder to eventually slow it down and stall it, as I got further into it the rubber it got worse until I eventually got to the metal all those disks later, 🤷♂️ I’m just the tester, you’re best bet for any serious replies would be contacting Hiplok.
I tried less pressure and it hardly went through and stalled, tried harder pressure and cut a little more yet stalled 🤷♂️🤣
It is all marketing. It cuts out because the battery is too small. Looks like a decent product but all these incompetent grinder attacks are doing it a disservice.
@@BenDeakinMTB What prevents someone from cutting off rubber with a box knife then cutting the lock?
They don't supply a $10 diamond masonry disc... Funny that
where do you think is the best way to locate the d1000 on a motorbike?front or back wheel?
thanks!
Depends on how secure wheels are, I haven't done motorbike but normally on push bikes front wheel (possibly through or to frame) as rear wheel a pain to steal but if got multiple can do both wheels, on motorbike I probably have 3 locks like one to secure the bike and two disc brake locks to make so wheels can't turn, a friend at bike project has one holding his lever in
Have they sent one to the LPL?
Who taught you how to cut a lock? Is Hiplock paying you? Little kickback if you "can't" cut their new lock? They haven't sent one to LPL, that's the only review that matters Anymore.
I would like to see a rating on all security devices in accordance with a system set up by a consortium of security breaking experts. This rating would be comparable across all brands that use it. As they are, ratings are only comparable across the offerings of the same brand.
That's the whole point of Sold Secure - which this lock has a "Diamond" rating from.
What camera are you using
Lock picker. That would be interesting
Oh He'd open it in second's...Ha !
I’m afraid to say. This grinder is terrible, as is the reviewers technique. The grinder stopping like that is because of these to factors.
That said, i am about to purchase this lock cos it’s awesome.
That looks like a stone cutting disc by the brown dust coming off it, put a 1mm stainless slitting disc in the grinder and it will mince through it
There’s a bloke on here cut through it in 33secs lol use a desalt 20 volt and a diamond blade. Your using a disc for mild steel 😂😂😂😂
At $300.00 that lock should be impossible to cut. I just lock my bike someplace I can see it from where I have to go. If anyone starts showing an interest in my bike I walk right up to it and that changes everything.
The lock picking lawyer is needed.
You are absolutely right bro. This is such a damn good lock.
Most bike thieves are too stupid to pick locks.
Angle grinder is quicker.
Imagine having to hire a locksmith to release your bike because you lost your key or the lock won't open. How much would the bill be? Maybe call the fire department instead and ask them to bring their jaws of life?
Maybe get contact information of some local welders.
Sold. Just purchased it together with gold standard chain. Cost me my ass but thats the price you pay for insurance
Too small for e-bikes though please make a bigger bike one! Also, if they can’t cut the lock, they’ll just cut what the lock is attached to instead . All locks do is buy you a little bit of time. I wouldn’t leave my e-bike for more than 5 minutes even with this lock and it would have to be within earshot or eye shot.
Why is Hiplock terrified of the LPL?
What's the power of the grinder ? Use a Dewalt or Festool maybe ?
cut it in half where the key goes, lets see what happens then
You could just cut through whatever its locked to
Seems to me a lot of people have all the answers on hear , go and do your own tests and please post the vid , be interesting to see
Determined thief, in a van and with a petrol Stihl saw?
I suppose it depends on the value of the locked item.
Don't say that ... I'm building a £6-8k Trek Emonda ALR to use as daily bike, yes I got a carbon 6.7kg bike but 90kg weight limit, I'm making one that base ready to use about 6.88kg and 125kg rider limit
That's all well n good but that ain't fitting round nobody's hips
They just cut through the bike rack
Or let the thief nick the bike but have a GPS tracker on it.....then call the boys!
To either:
A: Find your damaged bike dumped somewhere
B: Find your GPS tracker dumped somewhere
C: Find the last signal was a parking lot, and it's now inside a truck somewhere
A Flexvolt grinder using Makita 0.8mm thin discs may slaughter it.
That grinder you are using looks cheap and nasty and seems to be cutting out itself,and those discs you are using look well thick,almost like grinding discs.
Therefore,i deduce this test to be major BS.
Under 3 minutes in a vice and under 4 minutes strapped on a pole. This is how much time actually it takes to cut the lock. No idea why the gentleman in the video is struggling so much, but yeah.
Learn how to use the grinder first. If you allow the tool to do its job, it will cut it no problem.
Dewalt grinder and decent blade would have done it.
I've seen others with plugged in not battery angle grinders with multiply wheels cut through. However it to a lot of time. The question is on todays lock market, what lock/locks would you choose?
Nope.
220V grinder went through a BUNCH of discs and took 10 minutes to cut ONE side. Gotta cut the other side to get the lock off to steal the thing in question! So 20 minutes, 10 cutting discs & a lot of noise. That’s pretty damn stout!
I’ll take one! (I bought two actually.)
But not according to you. You “heard” it could be cut “with a bigger/better/higher quality/ blah, blah, blah” tool, so forget it.
Here, I’ll save you the effort:
A plasma cutter defeated the D1000 in 10 seconds. 10 seconds!
So the lock is useless, Hiplok is a fraud, and people should just give up. Leave your bike unlocked because it will just be stolen in seconds anyway.
Better yet, just ride on over to the nearest hive of thieves and hand ‘em your bike and get the suspense over with!
There, problem solved!
Put the disk on the right way ffs🙄
I am a biff! I’m not a tradesman, 😂
was going to point that out, cutting discs can be hard to tell if you don't know, grinding discs are almost impossible to get wrong though as the have the bowled disc.
one of the best discs I ever found was a super skinny cutting disc when I had to cut through some wrought iron curtain poles (20 of the f'krs to be precise).
Stop putting a ton of pressure on the disks and intentionally stalling out the grinders!
This seems like a nice BS test where he intentionally makes it fail.
Not very powerful grinder 😊
poor grinder and disc, probably to promote the lock. send me one and I'll give it good go.
It’s no coincidence that bike theft is high in the UK & United States. Two countries with decades of growing wealth & income inequality. Good the UK just narrowly missed making it much worse with the proposed but defeated tax cut for the wealthy. (Ironically tax cuts always cost those who voted for them more taxes! My city keeps asking for more and more properly tax assessments. Despite the 2017 corporate tax cuts just passed!)
The ACTUAL way to prevent bike theft & crime in general is to make legitimate work more lucrative than bike theft & crime.
This is the simple concept of “market forces.” The right LOVE market forces when they benefit the rich. But not so much the rest of us. They suspend market forces when convenient: bringing in foreign workers to pick the harvest at poverty wages.
And when that fails, they just build more prisons! (Paid for by REGRESSIVE taxation, of course! Can’t let law enforcement affect the bottom line, doncha know!)
Bosch are NOT the best discs to use. 👎🏼