I rented to about 20 different section 8 tenants. Most broke all the house rules, when vacating the unit it was left a mess. Completely disgusting. They left all sorts of trash, broken furniture, the floors were so sticky my shoes were sticking to the floors, broken window shades, the fridge and stove were completely disgusting. The inside of the unit smelled like marijuana being smoked in the apartment. It's not easy to get rid of the smell. All the walls needed to be sponged washed down, etc.
I hear your frustration. It must be difficult when renting and you have no clue beforehand what kind of housekeeper a tenant will be... here's a clue (I learned this from a school administrator who made final decisions about hiring teachers)... 'Walk the potential tenant out to their car after your initial meeting/interview (before the final decision whether to rent or not). *Take note of how they keep their car.* Be nonchalant and friendly, chatty, et al: *That's how they're going to keep their rental.*
So hold up you knew the guy was abusing her and instead of notifying them. You knowing allowed her to be victimized by him. You do realize. HAD YOU CALLED THEM BY THEM PROTECTING THE TENANT IN RETURN IT PROTECTS YOUR "PRECIOUS PROPERTY". Hope your kids and grandkids know not to call you for help.Cause if it don't benefit you you ain't helping.🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤔🤨🤨🤦🏽♀️
I did not know he was abusing her at the time. I would have loved to call he police on that guy. None of the neighbors called the police either. They just called us after the fact saying the guy drove through our garage door. I wish neighbors didn't have the attitude that snitches get stitches.
Hey, you're absolutely correct. You are. If you're a property manager/owner, and your tenant tells you about a crime that had been committed on your property, and yet you do absolutely nothing about it, yes you can definitely be considered a knowing participant in that crime. You can. When you rent an apartment or house to anyone and they end up getting assaulted by either another tenant or another individual that's been known to commit a felony on your property, and you do nothing about it, yes you can definitely be considered a willing participant in that criminal activity. It doesn't matter if the victim of that crime has reported it to the authorities, if you have specific knowledge of it, and yet you do absolutely nothing about it or not say anything about it to the authorities, you can definitely be considered a willing participant to it. Once you rent a property to someone you are responsible for having a safe, clean environment for your tenants. If your tenants have had a Window broken out of their vehicle and you know about it and still do nothing about it, and you allow it to continue unchecked, you then become complacent to the criminal activity and therefore, condone the behavior towards others by doing nothing... Yes. You're absolutely right about this...
Yeah, and here's a really good laugh for you... She actually answered this down below. She actually claims that nobody ever told her about him beating the Fuck out of that Girl, claiming that the other tenants never told her anything about it. Yeah. Right.. Yes they did. I can fully assure you that they did, and probably every single time it happened. How can you be living right next door to someone getting beat the Fuck up in the apartment just a few inches away from you right next door and not hear anything? Not listen to it happening to her? Nope. I myself am not buying that for one moment. She knew. She did know about it. She didn't want any type of law enforcement officer showing up at HER property. I mean. Who would want the Police showing up on a daily basis and have the risk of her highly Narcissistic attitude and demeanor being destroyed by the general public who's literally watching it happen in front of her property? Her reputation is on the line and she doesn't want any of her highly Narcissistic and extremely arrogant cohorts seeing this happen and forbid anyone from her Social Club ever catch wind of this. Imagine what her Polo Club might think about her then? My, My, My... How it could be for all of us if in fact we were all as Entitled has her...
So you need to be investing in DETROIT! 2022 pricing: 3 bedroom house renting for $1,000/mo=$72,000 sale price. I have a few for sale. Right now I only have non-section 8 houses for sale. Several years of payment history. monique@greatdaypm.com. www.greatdaypropertymanagement.com/for-sale. It's all about your boots on the ground. My "boots" are publicized right here. I just posted a house I sold today at 19988 Hickory. The buyer wants a Section 8 tenant there.
I became a Landlord briefly out of necessity and will never do it again, unless you are a big company that has multiple properties, etc., it is NOT worth it. The average Landlord is a hard working person just trying to do the best they can for themselves and their family. I got tired very quickly of trying to keep things nice for the tenants and getting the destruction and problems in return. God bless anyone that can do this since affordable housing is desperately needed for people.
I grew up in CA with middle class parents who bought a 6 unit apt building as an investment. My Dad did the maintenance while my Mother did the books and cleaned up after the slobs finally moved out....(you can see where I'm going with this).....After living through this I swore to myself I would NEVER be a landlord and I haven't. You are right, it it's worth it, even if you get a property manager. People will look you right in the eye and lie to you.
In Michigan the laws have changed about the 30-day notice. The laws have or the judges have. Not really sure. But the pandemic has really hurt tenants and landlords in that we can't get people out expeditiously. Someone has to pay for that and landlords are just raising rents or selling their houses. That means fewer rentals for tenants and more homelessness. Too much government is not good!
In Michigan MSHDA will reimburse up to $3,000. Dogs, Dirt, and destruction isn’t a Section 8 thing. It’s a product of one’s upbringing usually. I do a home visit before I will rent to anyone so I’m sure they know basic house keeping.
Are they a-holes or they just weren't raised as you were? I wonder. I'd prefer to think they just don't know there are other smarter ways to go through life than tearing up houses and being combative with their housing providers. If we don't all do what we can to remove them, the problem perpetuates. People need consequences usually to make changes.
@@MoniqueBurns So many people were not raised like I was. I couldn't put up with the damage they do, or the lack of respect for anything or anyone. Sorry, I don't empathize with these folks. I won't be renting to them.
Hi what’s the difference between a lease and a Section8 contract I’ve been in my rental for 12 years and only signed 1 lease but just did my recertification in June of 2021 and my contract ends in 2022 but landlord decided they want to sell
Your lease is between you and the landlord. It was for one year. After the year was up, your lease probably automatically went month-to-month. The contract is the HAP contract. That's the contract Section 8 has between them, you and the landlord. It's Section 8's promise to pay the landlord their amount and it shows you what your amount is you have to pay. Section 8 will renew that contract yearly with an accompanying inspection and recertification to see if your income changed so they will know if you need to pay more or less the next year.
Nice video. I don’t have a voucher but I live in a subsidized apartment, which is tied to the unit itself. I’m a good tenant, always pay my rent on time, no drugs, and I keep my apartment clean and no damages whatsoever. That being said, I wish I had a voucher because my ceiling in the kitchen has been leaking for over half a year when it rains. I have told the property manager about it and it hasn’t gotten fixed and there is mold on the ceiling now. Also, I am disabled and I have been trying to add someone to be my live in-aide. I got a lease violation because I have been going in and out of the hospital and my friend has been staying with me to help me due to medical reasons and I have a letter from my MD stating that I need a live in-aide but the management doesn’t seem to care I need one.
I have heard the subsidized buildings have the poorest customer service. No competition like with us private landlords. I’m sorry for what you’re going through. Not fair!
I have a section 8 tenant that I believe is running up the utilities maliciously. I had new tenants move into a unit and she had problems with them from the start. Within the first month she wanted them evicted once she realized that wasn't going to happen her utilities started to increase by alot in my opinion. Her water usage up by about 100 gal per day 3000 gal per month. Her heating oil usage is up 50 gal per month when it's always been less than 100 gal per month. This whole winter she's avg 150 per month. And now the electricy is up also, over the last 4yrs her avg KWh usage was 21.45 KWh per day during winter months. Last month her electricy usage went up to 31.87 KWh per day. Tenant is an at-will tenant she was there when I bought property with no lease month to month. My plan at this point is to just not renew the lease and hope she moves out. But my question is do I need to have a valid reason for non renewal? If so are my concerns valid enough? And if I don't renew a tenant's lease will HUD still allow me to rent to other section 8 tenant's? Thanks in advance for any advice and God bless.
You’re not punished by Section 8 for not renewing a lease. When you send the notice that you’re not renewing, also send an eviction notice for if you need to use it. Sometimes they stay well after Section 8 stops paying you. If that happens stay in touch with Section 8 about it so your tenant knows she isn’t looking good to Section 8. In Michigan we don’t have to give a reason to evict people after one year. It’s easiest to state you’re selling your property. But it sounds like a multi family so that excuse may be a little difficult if they talk with each other. Good luck! Keep me posted.
I am considering to rent my property to Sec 8 tenant but I have a question as follow: What should landlord do if a Sec 8 tenant stop paying his rent portion? In our state if you start a court eviction process you can not accept rent from the tenant until the court date but section 8 administration will continuing paying his portion. Should you ask Sec 8 administration to stop paying you until the court date? Appreciate your reply.
Oh, wow! Great question. Has anyone reading this had experience with this issue? In Michigan we can accept money until the end unless we do a 30-day notice. With a 30-day notice that is stating to just leave, we have to start the 30 days all over again if we accept money. I hope someone can help answer your question. Thanks for asking it.
@@MoniqueBurns Thanks a lot for replying. Here in Georgia I believe it is the same but, you should give a 60 days notice not 30 days. If tenant is not paying his rent portion you will file an eviction. If you won the eviction tenant would lose his voucher until he pays the money he owes. By the way I asked GA real-estate lawyers dealing with evictions and they were not sure about Sec 8 paying rent during the eviction process that is because Sec 8 is Federal laws and the court of eviction is Start laws and this can cause confusion in court.
You are either a landlord witnessing the abuse of Section 8 or you’re a tenant being sarcastic and not appreciating that I advise removing abusers so the good people can get vouchers. Are you really thrilled? Just curious. Thanks for watching regardless.
@@MoniqueBurns I wholeheartedly agree. There's far too many people out there abusing the system and they're the ones most likely to destroy your property as well. I would love to hear some horror stories from tenants if you have anymore lol. Stay safe, God bless
Can I rent from you?! Great video great advice, thank you for making this video. I'm on Section 8, Im 62 years old & it's very difficult to find decent housing with a voucher. I don't know why but so many landlords believe that if you're on Section 8 you're going to destroy their property or do drugs or bring people to live in their house, bring in undocumented animals, cause trouble, etc. And when you're lucky enough to find a decent place in a decent part of town they have a high turnover of managers & along comes A manager who doesn't know what they're doing & doesn't like you, even though you had zero problems with all the previous managers & makes your life not fun at all. I wish I lived in Detroit cuz you seem like a reasonable person, + you know what you're doing, you actually have experience managing properties & people. Thank you for giving people on Section 8 a chance, for being willing to look past the stigma.🙏🥰
Not a chance... Not a chance... Are you lucid? You realize she's actually telling you that once she's sick and tired of you, you're out on your Ass. Because, when she does get sick and tired of you, you're going to be receiving a 30 day notice of intent to not renew your lease, and with that 30 day notice, now remember this came directly out of her mouth, once you get that 30 day notice she's definitely going to be serving you with an eviction notice as well. She made this very clear that is her intention. You know. Karen here wishes to destroy your entire credit score, your future endeavors for getting another place to live, and believe me she's going to attempt causing you to lose your Sec-8 voucher... She's already said this is her main intention... And you want to rent from her? Lots of luck with that one.. Lots of luck ever having a safe environment for yourself and your family because you rented an apartment from her...
My pleasure. You must be an owner. Tenants hate this video because they feel it's a way to remove good people from housing. It's a way to remove BAD people so the good ones can get vouchers.
I used to live in Detroit when I was on HUD never been on section 8 I'm here in New York on section 8 and I'm not liking the section 8 here in New York City I plan to move back to Michigan in one year I might have to come sooner I'm trying to see maybe I might have to go into a shelter soon cuz I'm trying to get me here in New York City
Okay I have a question I have section8 and I got evicted and I have court tomorrow if I don’t show up do i get terminated and if I do how long before I can replay for it here in tx
Flint used to get its water from Detroit. After they went on their own, they discovered their own pipes were full of lead. Lots of people went down for that blunder.
@@MoniqueBurns yeah they got a worldwide black eye for that, the whole US got a horrible grade in that a 1st world country could let any of its citizens live that poorly. Detroit currently gets that same black eye for the un safest city in US as well isn't didn't Detroit go bankrupt? And the city is still shrinking more than any other city in US. When will it go under 600k?
One part of your strategy needs to be complaining to your US representative/Senator, with a copy to HUD. HUD actually will sometimes take action, if the Congressional letters are coming in. Otherwise... HUD supervisors couldn't care less.
I was thinking about going the section 8 route, not anymore. Sounds like too much headache to be worth it. I’m sure my state’s rules are different but I bet they are not that much different. Meth is a huge problem here as is alcohol, both tend to lead to property damage
My area is very low income so Section 8 is the best option to me. We don't have a huge meth issue here. Some people choose to not deal with it. There are certainly pros and cons.
I do not turn my back on people with vouchers. Quite the opposite. When voucher holders scam the system, they don’t deserve the voucher anymore. There are plenty of good people who need vouchers. Vouchers should not be taken up by scammers.
Here's how to get rid of a section 8 tenant DON'T RENT TO SECTION 8 BUT MOST OF YOU LANDLORDS NEED SECTION 8 BECOME ITS GUARANTEED MONEY THAT'S PAID ON TIME & YOUR PROPERTIES WOULD BE VACANT YALL JUST AS BROKE AS THE PEOPLE YOU RENT TO 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I agree, The landlord dose not even own the land The contract on the land is null and void 1999 the United States Corporation came out of its 3 bankruptcy and the title 4 flag was captured. Land vs Sea. Hahaaaa
But you don't know that that's the answer. Having Section 8 doesn't equate to bad tenants. I've had Section 8 and non Section 8. The best tenants are the ones I did a home visit on before they were allowed to rent my home. Didn't matter whether or not they had a voucher. That's like getting a few bad tenants who all coincidentally were gingers then thinking the problem is that they're gingers. No, you didn't screen them well. Poor gingers get so picked on!
California housing costs are out of control. They have made it so it's not a good investment for landlords to provide housing, from what I've heard. Rent control hurts tenants. It forces people to move to a state that is more investor friendly so there is competition in housing and thus more housing. I've very sorry to hear you lost your voucher. That's terrible!
Hello and thanks for the vid. Just wanted to ask you a quick question which I think you already answered but I’d like your advice. Tenants yearly lease ended March 2022. I sent them and section the letter of lease cancellation on December 2021. Section has extended their voucher to find a new home until July 2022. I have a feeling the tenants will not find a home by July 2022 and will just ask for an extension of the voucher and section 8 will gladly extend again. I am still receiving rent from section 8 all the while. Should I just wait and see how long section 8 will extend this? My issue is that the lease was up on March 2022, and I’m wondering how long will section 8 extend for. Also, if I wanted to evict now , all I have to do is send a letter to tenants and section 8 that I’ll be evicting in 30 days due to sale of house? Simple as that?
Nothing is simple as that! When I need them out, I send the 30 day eviction notice, which in Michigan says the tenant has 30 days to leave, not renewing the lease. I send that with the letter letting them know it’s practice to send it with my written notice to them of when I want them out. Send both the notice and the letter to their caseworker as well. You may have to actually take them to court to get them to want to move though. It’s really not the point whether Section 8 pays or not. Section 8 is just the bank. You still have to exercise the law of being a landlord. I hope that answers what you’re asking.
This gave me a knot in my throat. You know that these people wait for years for the privilege to enjoy housing that they can afford. When you give a notice to evict them because you don’t like them, the eviction will stay on their record for years. Which means that not only are they terminated from Section 8, but will find it nearly impossible to find other housing. The situation is amplified if they are older, disabled or have children in the home. Giving one months notice to get out is terribly unfair as it is extremely hard to find affordable housing even if you have a clean background. Most if not all of these people will wind up living on the streets. Your streets get particularly cold in the winter-below zero. I’m Seriously upset. It’s soulless. It’s nasty. May God forgive you.
A lease is a binding legal agreement between tenant and landlord. Both need to follow the rules, if not, there are consequences. Usually people who immediately side with tenants w/o knowing the situation aren’t property agents or landlords and have no idea what they’re talking about. If you’re so concerned, let some of those families live in your home without rules or paying rent. Let us know how it works out.
I'm sorry you feel that way about me. I would never evict someone because I didn't LIKE them. I only evict people who refuse to follow the rules. When people lose their vouchers because they don't follow the rules, then people who desperately need vouchers are given an opportunity. Before the one month notice there are lease violations that need to be corrected. It's never just a month's notice. Even when I have given people notice, if they are truly looking for a new place (their next landlord has called me for a reference and has told me he's getting the house ready still), then I let them stay as long as they need to. Are you suggesting I should let people stay in my house if they're destroying it and not paying for it? Do you let people do that to your property because they have children or they're disabled or they're elderly?
She definitely seems to discriminate, I hope HUD takes her Section 8 privilege away. The way she talks & negatively speaks about people on the program. Hopefully her family never needs it.
Lady judge people by the content of their character. My aunt had your mentality and regretted it. You have a personal vendetta and you are so evil and hatful your willing to smug the good names and reputations of good people. God don't like ugly. You have lost out on his blessing. I hope it was worth it.
Thanks, this video is a great public service. It sounds like you are describing a complete failure of a program and a complete waste of taxpayer dollars.
Hah! I did learn something from a Salvation Army volunteer. She said you have to give to a lot of bad apples to reach the good apples who truly benefit from the giving. It is VERY hard to see the bad apples when I know full well there are good ones who can't get the help our welfare system is for.
Section 8 person moved into our quiet neighborhood ,,,well they party every night literally no joke, and have 3 extra people living in their house ,,they have 4 brand new 2024 cars and they get more Amazon packages than almost everyone combined on our block and they have threatened and damaged others cars ,,,,,,and she is trying to sue more than 4 neighbors for over 600k for coming together and making a complaint to the management.....
What a nightmare! I hate to hear about people so blessed with help from our tax money program go and take full advantage. I saw this sort of thing happen with someone getting Salvation Army handouts once years ago. I knew the women in charge at the Salvation Army and I gave them my two cents. CRINGE. Their response was, "Well, Monique, we know. We have to help a lot of people like that to get to the people with the true needs." It's tough! Our lesson from WWII was to not let evil happen while we stand by, but then when you don't stand by, you're suddenly accused of being a Karen. I hope my video helped.
Thank you. Am in the process of evicting a dead beat section 8 tenants. He hasn't paid rent in five months. He is so rude and wouldn't even talk to me.
Sorry to hear what you're going through. Keep his caseworker looped in with all your court documents. There are plenty of people who aren't RUDE who need Section 8. They'll thank you for helping open up a new slot at Section 8.
Please do not take her up on her offer to contact for advice. Contact and attorney. She has stated several falsehoods which can be reason for tenant to file in small claims court and win a judgement. Legal Aid attorneys are free and do a better job than what most landlords think. Everyone on section 8 qualifies for legal aid. Many hear of the victories of the landlord in small claims court against the tenant but few hear of the victories of section 8 tenants getting judgments against their current or prior landlord. It happens more than most think.
True, I am not an attorney. I do not offer advice on legal matters. I only know what I know from my experience as a landlord. My tenants typically like me. No one has had any reason to file a claim against me. When people do ask for advice from me and I truly don’t know the answer, I happily refer them elsewhere. It’s amazing the responses from a video that tries to help the more qualified people have room to get on Section 8. It’s like people take offense and want scammers to keep using up the limited amount of vouchers. If someone is NOT a scammer then by all means, get legal aid. I agree that they’re great. I advise tenants all the time to get legal aid. I hear horror stories from applicants almost every day. I wish they had legal aid for landlords too. This pandemic has been very hard on most landlords.
Guide me through being a neighbor of a section 8 home....the landlord cares not that 2 families and over 12 people are living in a 1300 sq ft home. and they have no vehicle and children are not attending school. This is a safe neighborhood with many children and elderly people. This home is junky in the front yard and throws trash. I have seen multiple "drug deals". I am trying to take action.
You need to STOP BEATING THE BUSH and get to your point. You need to provide answer to the question you intend to answer... ----------> How to remove a Section 8 tenant from your property...... Very good video, but your ADHD got out of control and you were all over the place in your thoughts.... Stay focused....get to the point....
Yes! I’ve seen the paperwork but I haven’t met anyone yet who has used it. They also have sign-on bonuses for renting to voucher holders. I’m about to try that.
Yes, indeed, I have seen that myself. I have seen how those wombats live! Unsupervised children, boyfriend sells drugs. Stay out of the nightclubs and don't take anyone home. Nightclubs-kids are complete idiots
She is right , landlords are in the business of providing housing not to fix and baby sit your situation..they are not government employees, social workers or charity. They are using and investment property to generate income.
They are doing you a favor to exposed their property to welfare recipients ... if the stories were good, better houses in better neighborhoods would be available because money talks... but is going the opposite way. Just have human decency and take care of other people’s property.
Raising the rent just because someone is on section 8 is terrible. They are doing it just because the government will give them the money. I do not like this lady at all. She is symptomatic of a lot of people have known in my life who just like to take advantage of other people. What has happened to people's ethics? Do people even know what ethics means anymore?
@@edwinnochebuena1214 this is one sided..how about Monopoly be played fairly?! What sense does it make to go above and beyond KICKING ON OFF A PROGRAM THAT TAKES MONEY FROM THEIR TRUST. People BUY YOUR OWN. Let's make sure these slum LORDS pay their own Mort-gage
I don't think you are a Karen. So many trolls have nothing better to do. I hope they are section 8 tenants that get kicked out due to their criminal boyfriends who smoke meth and are just bad dudes.
At 5:00 : Really? I accept that a landlord would say anything to get a horrible tenant moved out and into YOUR rental. They really are in a tough spot. If they tell the truth to you their bad tenants will take longer to move. They may be on your side in heart, but can't bear to tell it like it is.
Entitled folks should become a property owner (or at least someone who can afford market rent) prior to critiquing one about what she does with HER property. And Monique, I wish you all the best...I'm a landlord myself who lives stress-free as I'm not renting to folks on section 8. If need be, it's far easier to collect a judgement from a gainfully employed former tenant.
I'm not sure I understand who you're referring to as entitled. I've had far less stress with my longtime Section 8 tenants than my "collectible" ones. I only rent to around 30% Section 8 tenants. I'm happy for you that you're living stress free. You should make videos about your success.
@@MoniqueBurns I am referring to several individuals who commented on this post who indicated that they believe they are owed something that they haven't paid for. I believe I read every comment here and quite frankly, I found some of them disturbing. Some of the commenters appear to have an external locus of control, among other things. I am of the firm belief that at the end of the day "why" someone can't pay their rent and uphold their end of our contract doesn't really matter. This doesn't not entitle someone to live in that space for free. Anyway, yes, I would assume that long term section 8 tenants are safer than newer section 8 tenants, but it's just not worth the up-front risk to me. I'm pleased to learn that this is all working out well for you. All the best...
I've never heard of that. I can't say I know but I'd be surprised if they could. Talk with Jay at www.Sectoin8Consulting.com about it. If that happened, he will know the rules to fight it.
@@MoniqueBurns There is actually a chart prepared by HUD with maximum rents for a specific situation (by number of bedrooms). Michigan even has deductions and additions for different situations like landlord paid utilities, no landlord provided refrigerator, etc.
Hi Monique, can a landlord evict a section 8 tenant for partial rental payment. My current tenant has not been paying rent in full for the past 2 months. Also, the tenant has not given me the full security deposit since he/she moved in (I know, that is my fault. Not going to happen again.). Is this also a violation to have the tenant evicted? Thank you.
Have you notified the tenant about the payments due, refuse to accept rent until current with late fees. Alerting the tenant about pass due rents and deposits puts them on notice. Some people are so straddled with resentment, stereotypes and discrimination towards section 8 tenants but others receiving tax payer money get passes, if ever most wake up and realize this world is so backwards and upside down in fairness and equity maybe then things could change for the better. I've see high rents property be trashed by well to do people, domestic violence crosses all economical households across the board. Section 8 has a major part in the overall high cost of rents. I wonder how much rents would drop if section 8 reduces its subsidies back to realistically values. The goverment takes money away unfairly to many people paying social security taxes, thru unfair penalties or offsets, yet then in turn give money to landlords and tenants without any of those or nor do they create offsets and penalties for those receiving tax payers money, one group get penalties for labor wages, those getting funding for housings as the owners are getting equity and property payments and the other gets a rental dwelling to live in either of those two work or are compensated like a wage earners that is also paying for housing. You want to talk about fairness? Some of those goverment offset are assured proverty and depression roads.
And you could literally sue Monique for giving bad legal advice because in many jurisdictions, the answer is NO. Despite the fact that I graduated from law school, I would NEVER answer a question like this one. Yet, here she is dishing out legal advice WITHOUT a law license. 👀
To remove a unwelcome section 8 tenant, I understand that landlord can refuse to sign a new lease. But if the tenant just won't leave, the landlord can lose the voucher income from the voucher because there is lease. How can we prevent this situation?
Always send a 30-day notice of eviction when you send the notice you won’t be renewing the lease. At least the court can help you if the person chooses to stay. You could also send a copy of the notices to their caseworker. If the person won’t leave anyway, make a paper trail with Section 8 about it and cc the tenant. Prevent it? You cannot. It’s rare I’ve run into this because voucher holders don’t want to risk losing their voucher. Also ask the tenant to be in communication with their new landlord to know for yourself about the timing. With the housing shortage these days, I’d give the tenant 60 days to move and send the notice of eviction 30 days out from the end of the lease and let them know why you are sending it, to protect yourself. It doesn’t go on their record unless they truly don’t leave.
Until they force you to,@@ursulasmith6402 "Income-based discrimination" is increasingly illegal each and every day. It's spreading to eliminate you filthy, greedy slumlords. Expect it. You've been warned.
You know. Making someone homeless who is probably already poor and low income it’s going to help them. It just adds to the homeless population. You a good reason that Us Dept Of housing and Urban Development stay in Business. And hopefully the people you trying to get kicked off there hud vouchers know there rights. And they can file a Us dept of housing urban development complaint as well as call legal Services. I think evicting them and moving on is the better. Then them losing there Section 8.
So you believe if a Section 8 voucher holder abuses landlords and property that they should get to keep that voucher when plenty of other clean rule following tenants need vouchers?
I believe you aren’t god. And that is over your pay grade. You aren’t God. You aren’t Donald Trump. That isn’t your call. And one day. You might find yourself kicked off the Program. Like some other landlords. And hopefully who has ever rented from you. Know there rights. If you pulled that in Missouri they would have Probably Sued you in Federal court. And file a complaint against you with the Us dept of Housing and Urban Development. Cause remember always 2 sides to a Story. Again you aren’t god. If you so against section 8 go rent to Market renters. But no you don’t want that. Cause hud helps your lifestyle.
My tenant section 8 was given termination of lease and she was suppose to move out 9/30/22 but she didn't so we gave her 30 day notice to vacate and she still didn't move out but found a new place to put deposit on; she stopped paying rent after Section 8 stopped paying effective October 1, 2022; Section 8 emailed me saying if tenant stays beyond the 9/30/22, tenant is responsible for full rent; Well tenant has not paid a cent towards rent for October so we filed eviction November hoping to end this saga by end of NOvember or mid December; However, the courts are suddenly very busy with bulk apartment evictions with 40 to 50 cases a month so court date got pushed back to January 18, 2023; By then she will owe 4 months rents; She signed the RTA in November 25 (a month after she found another place to live); Now waiting on scheduling of inspection and passing of inspection of her new place (Please God?) so she can get the HELL OUT OF MY HOUSE; She infested my home with roaches twice! She is dirty and always full of excuses (too sick, blaming old house, bombing house not working, no money for Pest control); Yet she works doing food delivery and sometimes shifts on Amazon; Mentioned paying for tickets (she was out of town for her dad's funeral) and gifts for kids; OK I know this is not the same amount as rent; She also did some small damages to house (hole on wall, crack on door) saying her kids were fighting and caused the damage; She also painted a dark color over top half of bedroom wall, heavy scuff marks all over, missing smoke alarms, broken window blinds, stained carpet due to dog we know about; IF YOU GAVE SECTION 8 TENANT NONRENEWAL OR TERMINATE LEASE WITH A LEASE END DATE (REQUEST TO MOVE OUT WITH AN END DATE) NOTICE, THEY SHOULD STOP PAYING THE RENT SO YOU CAN FILE FOR EVICTION;
You've got me confused. If the tenant isn't paying, you have the ability to take her to court. Every court document needs to also be submitted to her caseworker along with lease violations like not paying rent and tenant cause damages. That can cost the tenant her voucher. It probably won't but it COULD which is a foolish thing for the tenant to do. That whole victim thing is nauseating and common. You may have to collect the missing rent payments via small claims court, which records should also be submitted to her caseworker and she should be warned that that's what you're doing so maybe she's motivated to quit being a victim and take some responsibility. I've been stuck with a nonpaying tenant longer than what you're talking about due to clogged courts, granted not Section 8 though. Usually they're too scared of losing their vouchers. Good luck! Keep me posted.
So, what you're saying is... Yiu screwed up but somehow it is all section 8 renters faults now!! 😅😂🎉 The Idiocracy! Must've inherited the property you're renting out!
Ive been in my apt with section 8 for 12 years (disabled on SSI) and I have NEVER had one issue. My contract ends on 4/30 each year and we went through the inspection and they updated the new rental amount and signed everything on the precertification and I thought everything was fine. Then on 04/14/23 my landlord handed me a notice that she was not renewing my lease and yet she came to my door on 04/17/23 and handed me the brand spanking new section 8 contract that we had already filled out which is valid from 05/01/23-04/30/24 and I’m so lost! She has submitted nothing to Housing That States she wants to break my new contract and housing only knew about this because I called them because I was very confused on what was going on. So now they tell me that if I don’t move by the deadline that I will get an eviction notice and if I get an eviction notice I lose my housing? In my original contract it says the landlord is to give notice in writing if she wants the tenant to move at the end of the contract addendum or if she wants to break in the middle of the contract they are to give good cause, So the tenant has a chance to legally defend themselves. I cannot believe that there are no rights for the tenants in the situation and I’m literally going to be homeless… for those of you that accept these section 8 vouchers, I sure hope you do it for a better reason than making extra money because this program is supposed to be designed to prevent homelessness and that’s exactly where I’m going to be. It’s most likely because I had to report the landlord for a nasty mold problem that they neglected for 6 months (made me very ill) that the maintenance man caused when he broke a water pipe under My cabinet. It cost them a lot of money to repair, they have told me over and over how expensive it was but that is not my fault…so this is complete retaliation but I guess that’s legal too right? 😪
I agree with this person. That is why l don't believe these tenants are causing damage. These landlords rent bad property to tenants to collect free money and do repairs on their better Apts. So when it backfires on the landlord, the landlord wants to gaslight everyone and say the tenant trashed the apt. You know you gave the tenant the faulty apt and treat the tenant like they are getting a free apt... Not this lady in this video
Section 8 is a HUD program, which is federal. I don't know how turning in someone for breaking HUD rules could be illegal in any state. Can you be more specific?
@@MoniqueBurnsyou seem to discriminate when you call section 8 Tenants as "Those People" - A lot of Vets are on Section 8, the way you talk-Kinda the reason why it's hard to get a landlord to rent, you make it sound like every Section 8 Tenant is dirty, there not.
@@tessabishop5455 I’m sorry if you took it that way. That’s the label I’m trying to remove. My own Section 8 tenants are wonderful. They’ve been with us now into their second decade. I PREFER Section 8 tenants totally.
@@MoniqueBurns That's nice thank you. It has a terrible reputation & they are giving higher vouchers for landlords, but we still get turned down. I'm single with no kids, pets, just a medical history. I am glad you put out the positive vibes section 8. Inspections are a must I 💯 agree.
My CZcamsr friend Jay at Section 8 Consulting can give very specific advice. You can try to email me and I'll let you know if I can help or not. Monique@greatdaypm.com
I don't actually know. It seems to me the caseworker at Section 8 would tell you to call the police. They don't like to get involved. But I've heard it helps if you email them something they can put in a file. If other issues come up with that tenant, then there is already your information too. So many people need Section 8 that anyone with it who is out there threatening their landlord shouldn't be on it.
Some good tips, but I disagree with not notifying Section 8 office of lease violations. It doesn't five them an opportunity to help you. Also, a good inspector should take filth into account. The meth rule is a federal rule...lol
Thank you for commenting! I will turn over a new leaf and send in lease violations. Not all PHAs are equal. I'll let you know how they do! Inspectors NEVER EVER EVER have supported us when tenants are filthy. Has anyone else found that kind of help from an inspector? Curious. I think inspectors could be far more supportive of landlords. Yes, give valid corrections, but the filth thing....HELP! Let me go with your inspector one day and write up some lease violations you and the landlords need to see. Okay, okay about meth houses. They are dangerous. It's just scary to mess with someone's drug business.
@@judaspreistvlct It is odd that landlords feel tenants have all the rights and tenants feel landlords have all the rights. It is very hard for us landlords to get our houses back. It can take MONTHS. We don’t usually want tenants out unless they aren’t paying rent or causing some drama. Rental money is income. Everyone needs their income. Almost everyone anyway. Thanks for commenting.
My landlords, since I moved into an apartment which takes Section 8, has been a real pain in the ass. She kept getting on my ass about cleanliness despite the fact that I am disabled and live alone. She acts like my apartment is her apartment, and she wants to keep it nice and tidy. I got her to shut the hell up one day. One of my sisters was once married to a guy whom did housing inspections for everyone under the sun. I called him up, and he said that unless you forget to pay your rent; put massive sized holes in the walls; bust some windows; destroy some major appliances; etc., having a clean and tidy apartment does not make someone whom receives Section 8 a bad tenant. He also said that because I am disabled, and have a hard time getting around, most judges would just tell the landlord to stop harassing the tenant. Also, he told me that most landlords do not do anything to actually "document" these violations other than saying that they are violations. They don't even take pictures of the violations for fear of being sued for invasion of privacy. Another thing about a harassing landlord, get them to shut up by filing a complaint with the police for harassment. This is a paper trail that can come in handy if you are taken to court for eviction. Also, when you file the complaint, take photos of your place, and then keep the complaint with the photos so that Section 8 and the judge can see it for themselves. If you make the landlord's credibility go South, then the judge isn't going to believe anything the landlord says without hard evidence. In the end, it will be more of a hassle for the landlord than for the tenant when it comes towards eviction.
I have a thing for clean baseboards. It just BUGS me to see dust and grime on baseboards. In my own house I go around with a hot washcloth while I"m on the phone until I notice I'm panting from all the up and down and crawling around. I also can't stand to see handprints on door casings or around door knobs. Drives me up a wall and makes me want to gag. But I would NEVER put my own cleanliness on someone else. I can barely keep up on my own house. There's cleanliness and there's outright damage. Damage is what I'm referring to in this video. I can't imagine going in someone else's home and VISIBLY gagging at their baseboards. Hopefully, I'm hiding how I feel. Unlike my mother. Despite my clean baseboards, she has a thing for dust on lightbulbs. I can't keep up with that nor do I care. See where I get my baseboard fixation from? Haha. We all have our things. I'd like to think we all do our best not to be outright negligent. I'm sorry your landlord is judging you.
If I were your landlord, I could take pictures too when I come to inspect the apartment. If you are a pig, then you are a pig, but if not, then just let it go. It is not an invasion of privacy to take pictures during and inspection. Pictures speak for themselves. If someone files a complaint against me, with the police, then you bet your lease will not be renewed. I love when tenants think they can get away with stuff during an eviction. I hope all landlords document to the 9's ,and get rid of rift raft tenants. Bad tenants ruin it for a lot of ya.
@@TL-wy1nk The only thing is that by not renewing a tenant's lease, you open yourself up to a lawsuit for a whole bunch of money. Is it really worth it to not renew a lease especially after a judge rules against you when trying for an eviction order? Many responsible tenants will try their best to keep up with restriction - when physically/mentally able to, but if you do not want the hassle, then do not rent to anyone.
We can't say such broad statements like that. I have plenty of really good Section 8 tenants. It's not Section 8 that means people are bad. It's usually poverty and poor parenting and no role models and no ethics. I've had an equal amount of bad or good cash paying tenants too. My own Section 8 tenants have been with us over a decade and some keep house better than I do. They used the program to get through college or provide stable housing enough to get their kids through college. It's been rewarding to see.
@MoniqueBurns I am happy for you. Maybe your experience came at a different time. But this time in my life, I won't risk it. That's any business decision. Yes, I believe a lot of things in life are the cause and effect of poor parenting, how you were raised, lack of opportunities, lack of vision, lack of money, and discrimination. With the spirit of discernment, i will continue to succeed, and trust section 8 is NOT the route for me.👍
I’ve read it’s the most painless corporal punishment. Not that there are polls taken. Thankfully we now have a justice system. You wouldn’t want to be the innocent person back then.
Hey can you explain how late fees work with section 8 tenants? Are we allowed to charge let's say $100 for late fees? Are there restrictions? Laws that we need to know about? I am in California. Please let me know or make a video on this specific subject. Thanks!!!
If the managing agent won't tell you, write to your US Representative. I assure you the message will go to HUD fast, and HUD will prioritize your response over anything else they do. Any complaint coming in over Congressional letterhead they move fast to respond to.
Good tenants are hard to find! I've been living where I have lived for 14 years. I never had a problem until I asked to have my roof fixed. Yeah Section 8 can make you homeless they did it to me and it wasn't for a reason other than I complained about issues with the roof! Maybe if some landlords instead of doing nothing to help the tenants were nicer to the tenants like me who are good tenants and been here 14 years maybe they could keep good tenants! I found that most of the problems in my city with slums is due to Section 8 their inspections are not the same and up to code like the real inspector! And if you complain then you can be homeless with children like I was no other reason than you complained keep evidence on your slumlord I did! And my last scumbag landlord named Mike agnabine from Oakfield New York tried making me pay for heat in the middle of winter just to get me out cuz I have to have the roof fixed so I have a red dot on me cuz of a scumbag landlord when I lived there seven freaking years! How about how do you get rid of slumlords without being homeless? How do slumlords collect taxpayers money cuz I was a taxpayer until I lost my leg how do they collect all that money and get all those tax breaks when they don't fix anything!? You're just all about the money you don't care about people what's more important to you is your money. Well maybe if somebody's a good tenant a landlord should give them a little break once in awhile throw them at turkey at Christmas something anything all the money you made of the poor and the government maybe you should give something back instead of a slum! Oh really one year at a time how come I only get month by month lease? Oh wait I live in Genesee County New York that's probably why well you wait to see what happens with my landlord cuz if they're going to throw me out on the street they won't be collecting slumlord money anymore when I'm done! Cuz there are way more bad landlords than bad tenants that's what I think and they should be weeded out and nobody should be getting a tax break for being a scumbag landlord you get giant tax breaks and then treat people like s*** like me with one leg because I asked to have a roof fix that leaks into the house and that I'm homeless after that and they got big expensive lawyers that they got with the money they got from people like me and the government so they can screw me out of my security and everything you will never get that back either it's a crooked program HUD Section 8 that's what it is! Oh so if somebody's a good tenant you just don't fix things so you can get them out! Well I'm going to call the attorney general like all the other people that live in a slum like I do they got to be thrown out in the street because the landlord won't fix anything and he's the head of the GOP in Batavia New York Richard Siebert call him up tell him I said that I don't give a crap! Maybe if he wasn't a slumlord with 30 slum homes then I wouldn't say that cuz that's the truth he gets rich off poor people and the government for doing nothing for the people could care less if they die or live as long as he gets the rent money! I'd be happy to have a good landlord I'm 60 years old and live there the rest of my life until I die a landlord that gave a s*** about me that even had decent people to mow the lawn or anything fix something the people who take out the garbage to the dump in Stafford New York they're all lowlifes crack dealers and a bunch of freaking retards! And tomorrow one of them is coming to my house to look at the roof and he's not a God damn roofer! Well 2 years ago I called my slumlord and he says he can't afford a roof and you also can't afford not to put a roof cuz then when you don't you got to tear the whole roof off oh well maybe you just won't be collecting money anymore if you screw over enough poor people especially if one of them is like me I got nothing to lose they use your kids against you well I don't have kids with me anymore like when they made me homeless before for complaining that's how I ended up in this s*** hole and I'm physically disabled and I cannot physically freaking move so if they're going to throw me out it's going to take them quite some time cuz tenants have rights also! If you want good tenants treat them good and don't make stupid videos like this man if I was your tenant I wouldn't like this
California Section 8 is very supportive of property owners. I am trying to stay nice. Leasors like yourself a lot of times abuse their position. I maybe missed something but, why is it your desire to not solely force a tenant out but also force them to lose their vouchers? Sounds like an admission of a God complex to say you are the determiner of who should and should not maintain a voucher. This video, like the commenters want to attack Section 8 recipients for every human imperfection as tenants. Let's just take a look within your own family. How perfectly do your children walk not run? Or pick everything up? I bet you as a teenager did not and probably still do not. Not everyone can pass the buck by hiring others to perform their mommy or daddy labors for a day. You commented on a single young mother having her boyfriend over to often for your taste. If he was not a criminal or troublesome (which you could not know unless you were stalking the tenant) would that still have been an issue? It is illegal to even inspect someone elses mail let alone take photos. Heck my oldest is married for several years now and she occasional will authorize her deliveries to my address because it is more convenient at times. My sister came to visit one thanksgiving and decided she enjoyed being around family so much so she stayed until after New Years before she returned to her own place. People do not stop having normal lives just because they are at a disadvantage. Why are you overly involved in how people are living just because they are at a financial disadvantage? Does that make them beneath you in your eyes? I know, I know, the well you have to protect your property excuse. If something arises and you are called, yes by all means check it out. But is the call coming from other tenants or neighbors who also stalk these people every day looking for something to complain about simply because they are not in your acceptable financial bracket? I am in California and every type of tenant you described can be found IN JUST ABOUT every eight hundred thousand to three million dollar+ home. Let's not even talk about the second generation worthless trust fund bratz who destroy, break laws, help the drug industry and are more likely to always be involved in something messy but get a pass because of some wealthy parent. But the people who rent to them just become angry, take their loses or what they can recoup, and rent to another one. I have not seen any better or worse tenants who recieve assistance to those who do not.
Thank you for your comments. I must not have done well portraying what I intended. I have no judgment on how people live their lives unless it affects my home or my business somehow. It's not up to me who loses a voucher. I definitely don't have any God complex. You know landlords aren't even allowed at the hearings? I can offer information though to Section 8 offices for them to make the decisions if a tenant damages my home or abuses my business. I had a woman call incessantly screaming explicatives to my staff. I didn't wish her on my worst enemy. She deserved housing though. I shared one of the voicemail messages with her caseworker. The caseworker did with it as she wished. What I hope is the caseworker helped her get mental help. She might have been off her meds. I don't know. Not my business. But it affected my staff. About the mail. A caseworker told me once that mailmen are often the ones who get people off their vouchers. I would never touch anyone's mail. But the mail carriers get angry knowing there is someone extra living there and the mail carrier is aware that government money is paying rent there. Section 8 has a way too of knowing if felons are getting mail at the address. I don't like to rewatch my videos. I'm very critical of myself. But I don't recall a boyfriend coming around too much or how I would ever know that. When doing repairs, it's obvious though. But we have never cared about the extra guy there. Other landlords find that a hard pill to swallow though and they are all over it, I've heard. Maybe that was the reference. The voucher holder isn't allowed to have extra people live with them. It is frustrating too when the extra people do more damage than good. We had one tenant whose drug dealer boyfriend would be in and out of jail. We knew he was back in jail when our front door was replaced with a new front door. The neighbors told us the police raided and slammed through our door. But our tenant was good and she replaced the door. He was the kids father. We didn't intrude on any of that. We could have though. But that would be a God complex of deciding how she should live her life. The neighbors probably wished we had done something due to the extra traffic his drug dealing caused. They never told us though. What is an acceptable financial bracket? I've never dealt with the silver spoon kids. I'll take my Section 8 tenants all day long. I prefer them. I admire most of them. Most of them are single moms holding down the fort quite well. It's incredibly gratifying seeing them put themselves through school and get skilled jobs. It's also gratifying knowing I'm moving them into our well maintained home where they will enjoy a professional respectful relationship with us. Maybe I should do a part two of that video to express what's actually in my heart. My intention was informational. People worry they can never get rid of a bad tenant. Or they worry that people are on Section 8 for life when there are actually ways for the bad ones to be removed. It's incredibly rare though. People with multiple evictions and felonies are still on Section 8. But then you get the whole story of the felony or the eviction and maybe there were good reasons that weren't the tenant's fault. Hard to know.
@@MoniqueBurnsNo, you did an excellent job showing your handdrawn rainbow with a pot of hell at the end of it. Someday,whe on your deathbed, you may have massive, huge regrets. But by then, it will be too late. You're supposed to love your neighbor, unless you're muslim then youre supposed to convert them by fire if necessary. Regardless, I see a stupid woman trying desperately to make a big name for herself. I would NEVER live in Detroit or even in that trash state. But I hope your tenants show these videos to their legal aid attorney next time you break the law and then end up owning you, your business, your client's house. RECKLESS INDIFFERENCE.
Harsh! I do not look at people in that way. My uncle was disabled and always on some sort of public assistance. He needed it. He worked too but he needed the help. I remember one time he found out a welfare dentist was charging the government for more dental care than my uncle was receiving. My uncle turned him in. He taught me that people abusing the system make it harder for people who the system is meant for. My uncle had the least material wealth and physical abilities but I have never met anyone as happy or kind as he was. No one is expendable!
Slum tenants are slum tenants regardless if they have Section 8. The landlord of that tenant could have increased the chances of avoiding renting to that kind of person had the landlord visited them at their previous property before renting to them. I'm doing a "home visit" tomorrow actually. If there is anything "slum" about her, we don't rent to her. I was totally up front too about it. "I'm coming to see how you live. How you live there will be how you live here." Most of them say, "Oh, really? Well, that's cool. Come over. I'll show you all the stuff my previous slumlord won't fix while you're here." Others get suspicious and I say BUH-BYE. Next!
I just rented one apt to a section 8 voucher holder and the first day she started having problems with the HOA rules. She is a pregnant single mother of 3 children and sect 8 paid her total rent. She purchase 2 parking decals arguing that she used both cars. I found out that her boyfriend is living there and he is being prosecuted by the police . All neighbors are mad at me for renting to this lady who is also having loud parties and living her parking space full oil that is leaking from her car. I. Needed to pay someone to clean her parking spot in order not to par a penalty. Later on the HOA fined me for $100.00 because she and her guest had a BBQ in the balcony which is prohibited in that condo.Her baby is due next month and the lease will end next year in January 22. According to the neighbors her boyfriend was arrested at the complex but it seems that is living there again. I am afraid that if I tell her that I will not renew the lease they will not go out and stay free 3 months that is the time an eviction is enforced. I am afraid of her boyfriend who is a felon and already damaged the bathroom door during a fight with my tenant. I do not know what to do. My property is located in Miami Florida.
@@Claudette68 you may have to weigh how much youre willing 2 loose now or keep them " in which they know that too many landlord's do just that" tough spot. As for me I'm willing to get rid of them. Because it won't get any better. And this Govt is working fast to enact pro tenant laws. In which most states will make it very hard to get rid of bad tenants Lucky for u you're in FL.
What can be done of tenants who are always drinking and have loud parties. Can they be reported to the government program of section 8. Because of disturbing the peace.
Not everyone on section 8 are bad people or use drugs and alcohol some actually need the help or there disabled were section 8 is useful because ssi and social security were without it they will be homeless
@@jamesevens6980 I’m grateful you are clarifying that for those who have blanket negative misconceptions about Section 8 voucher holders. I talk with voucher holders daily and there are plenty of decent people with legitimate needs.
@@MoniqueBurns exactly it’s people like this that are making families with children the elderly and disabled homeless.this is wrong and things like this should be illegal
Well here's a simple solution: Don't rent to the lower classes. Statistically, they cause damage to way greater a degree, than the higher classes. So, if it means saying piss on Section 8, then so be it. I'm in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, where many landlords won't rent to Native Indians. The reason why, is because statistically, they are infamous for causing damage, etc. Admittedly, it's technically discrimination, but the statistics will bear that out. I've known owners who, as soon as they realize it's a Native Indian person calling about a place, will either immediately hang up on them, or lie, saying that the place is taken. I know I'll get a flurry of hate comments from all the bleeding heart liberal types, but reality is what it is (though most are loath to state it).
The lady at Section 8 has been extremely rude towards my husband and I so we decided to go around and buy all the Section 8 properties in town that we could get ahold of and now in the process of taking them off a Section 8 until they fired this lady.
retaliatory landlord need to be held accountable also it works both ways less not left have integrity and fairness and not have favoritism it works both ways thank you for sharing your video...
It's actually really hard as a landlord to not have favorites. I have favorties of course, but I have to treat everyone the same; same late fees, same notice of evictions sent on the same days, etc.
I literally had no idea what I was doing as a landlord after watching this. I'm currently in a world of crap going through a pre eviction. This is sad... Thanks for the video.
I know there's a lot of dummies that work for section 8 that a dummies and because a lot of these landlords they don't care about a lot of tenants and they don't well I live in New York City and they are dirty in New York apartments buildings I think it's time for me to move and go a different way
There are dummies and dirty people everywhere, right? And nice and good and intelligent and clean people too. I'd say more of the latter in my experience.
It's a strange feeling to watch her talk about these people with zero compassion. I've seen some landlords like this before. I understand it's all about the money, but this puts such a knot in my stomach. Maybe this is what owning property and making tons of money does to people, or maybe they've become so callous because of how tenants treat their properties and homes. Either way I would never want to become this. I just started watching because my dad opened up an RV park, and I'm trying to learn how tenants and landlords communicate and operate. Whether it be homes or RV slots. I hope I never become this.
I don’t have compassion for those who scam the system. There are plenty of people who really need assistance who aren’t getting any. I talk to them every day. And I wish more landlords would do what’s possible to remove the people violating the rules. It’s not all about the money for me. It’s about doing the right thing. I’ve taken plenty of financial hits to do the most right by people. I wish you well in your RV park.
Business is business!!! This lady in our house has FIVE MONTHS she is a damn nuisance!!!!! Our other house we renting out had over 200 inquiries on Zillow rentals. Good luck to her finding a new rental in 2022!!! Thanks for the GREAT VIDEO
Only a person that hasn’t been burned by an unwanted tenant would defend a section 8 tenant. Ultimately a property owner should have a say so when they’ve had enough of a particular tenant.
@@mind.your.own.beeswax5416Racist liar! P.S. I defend renters ALL THE DAMN TIME, NEVER Been burned by ANYONE except for Diablita that happens to be a slumlady. (Oxymoron, I know)!
Why do people constantly target section 8 tenants like regular tenants are always so great. From what I have seen the majority of landlords that don't like section 8 are the ones that want to do illegal activities and be slumlords because they don't want to fix anything yet overcharge. I have come across people who only want section 8 tenants because their buildings are kept up better that way and anyone that doesn't follow the rules are kicked out. You are just targeting people
Right! I target Section 8 tenants for the reasons you state. They are my favorite. Sometimes though I have gotten bad apples. It’s the bad ones I’m referring to on this video. Same with my cash paying tenants too. There are bad apples everywhere! The more bad ones get off Section 8, then the more room there is for good ones.
@@MoniqueBurns your headline specifically states section 8 however. If it were about all clients you wouldn't have specifically mentioned section 8 holders
Rule #1 If you're just starting off. Don't rent 2 sec. 8. #2. Check the state laws on tenant/ landlord's. Tenant friendly don't do it. #3. Join a landlord assoc. #4. Don't rely on present landlord's reason. There's a reason why that tenants leaving, and that landlord wants to get rid of them. #5 credit check, evictions read like a book! #6. Don't trust the sob story, or a veteran. A veteran has preferred protections Remember they're whats called professional tenants, judgement proof. And they threw their lives away and don't care about you once you hand over the keys #7 sec. 8 is their advocacy group their job is to tell you all the good n tug on your emotions. They won't tell u someone's on drugs, family member will move in been arrested #9 Lastly most sec. 8 rulebreakers rarely loose their vouchers they just move them onto the next emotionally charged landlord that seeks to better themselves & their fellow human being
@@MoniqueBurns I got the experience really fast when I gave one a 2nd chance. And right after he knew we had accepted him, thats when the real hustler came out. Because he was a repeat offender. Knowing these agencies never kick someone out of the program because they're a for profit business. In which they get paid to get n keep repeat offenders. And those types of tenants know the game. And are often judgement proof. So they have nothing to loose. Even when you win a case against them. So with today's gov't. Catering "rent for free and no evictions" don't bother you'll be sorry.
@@Blah-blah-sure That makes sense that the S8 offices are for profit. It doesn’t give them motivation to remove people from the system. I’ve had good S8 tenants too though. Most of them have been good and drama free. I wish there were more oversight from HUD so deserving people get vouchers vs the scammer ones though. It’s all run like a government though instead of private business because it IS government. I’ve always been self employed. No patience or tolerance for mediocrity or injustice!
@@MoniqueBurns Thank you. Thats how I like to business as well. Even though CZcams gives us this platform. I really can't go into details of what my experiences still are having this "professional tenant" and yes even though 1's working can beat u. I'd rather take that chance. Read your other post visiting a prospective tenant. Absolutely. As for me I'll even go to your workplace. Because I've had enough of all these rights that provide for bad tenants to beat u.
Oh, you took this right out of my head. I say the same thing , over and over again! Veterans get good benefits because I am one, that how I know! Iam not rich but no section 8. Singles don't get that anyway. Kids are a mealtimes. Section 8 kids are the greatest jerks or idiots I have ever seen. They are Nightclub products.
After watching this : Good information. I would like to email u and ask a few questions to ask. Hello from sunny southern California. Mackey Mouse says hello
Professional landlord here. I have a much better way of getting rid of section 8 tenants. Just don't accept section 8 at all to begin with. It's about time we all stop feeding the bear.
Hah! Some cities don't give us a choice. They think they can tell us we MUST rent to Section 8 applicants. I think the "bear" these days is the courts who keep extending evictions thinking they're helping tenants. Quite the opposite. It's forced me to raise rents and the investors who buy my houses all want Section 8 tenants so they have less risk of evictions. Pros and cons everywhere. Thanks for watching my video.
@@MoniqueBurns True-and at this very moment which I post this: In California-[and perhaps the entire U.S.A.-since Section 8 is a "federal" program]-the law says that it is illegal-[in most circumstances?]-to discriminate among potential renters **solely** on the basis of having a Section 8 voucher.
Thank you for sharing ❤️ You do have good landlords and Retaliatory landlord so do a video on that also...there are some corrupt man Laura's out here at taking advantage of people and they need to be off of the program and not receiving this cash in their pocket can no way
Some people in section 8 in my area make up to 65k a year but they quit their jobs near the end of the section 8 so they can reapply. The system is being used and abused by so many all the while when people who need section 8 cant get it.
That will bite them in the ass eventually. There are only so many good jobs out there, they quit enough companies that provide them and they will not get another one. Also, I wish them good luck getting unemployment benefits doing that (they won't).
This is part of what is wrong with the world... People so greedy. I would be embarrassed and ashamed to get on CZcams and announce to the world what kind of a person I was like you have. Shame on you.
I am a person of integrity who does not appreciate people misusing government money when there are so many people out there who need Section 8. Shame on everyone who allows bad people to get away with bad behavior.
@@MoniqueBurns assumptions and over generalizations do not equal facts. This is really sad. You should rename your channel “Karen’s Privileged Real Estate”
@@MoniqueBurns people like you bern entitked for 400years. You think all of what is on earth will last? Persons like just make an excuse to be hateful, so you put all Sec 8 in a box. Most of them kerp their places nice , rent,utilities paid dont deal drugs, and some middle age or younger struggle with chronic issue.
What the heck are you talking about? She is saying that the scammers and criminal tenants are bad. If someone is getting beaten up by their boyfriend or husband, then they need to get on their big boy pants, and get an order of protection. She is providing housing. She is not her social worker, or his probation officer. I would call 911 if I heard a conflict but third party situations are very dangerous.
Not at all. The downtown has come back. It's quite vibrant. The neighborhoods are getting better all the time. When Detroit had a reduction in population, several of the houses fell in disrepair. Bit by bit those houses have been torn down (more to go) and the land is sometimes turned into orchards or neighborhood gardens. You wouldn't recognize Detroit anymore.
Wrongful arrest, constructive eviction, malicious prosecution. A combination of the three can equal a pro bono attorney getting a judge to take owners' houses away and GIVE THEM to their tenants!
@@DarkKnightBruce Is it really malicious prosecution? Seems like a high bar to convince a jury to that level. Criminals don't change their spots, so probably easy to get police to do what they do.
I rented to about 20 different section 8 tenants. Most broke all the house rules, when vacating the unit it was left a mess. Completely disgusting. They left all sorts of trash, broken furniture, the floors were so sticky my shoes were sticking to the floors, broken window shades, the fridge and stove were completely disgusting. The inside of the unit smelled like marijuana being smoked in the apartment. It's not easy to get rid of the smell. All the walls needed to be sponged washed down, etc.
I go check out how people live before they're allowed to rent from me. It's not easy but it helps!
I hear your frustration. It must be difficult when renting and you have no clue beforehand what kind of housekeeper a tenant will be... here's a clue (I learned this from a school administrator who made final decisions about hiring teachers)...
'Walk the potential tenant out to their car after your initial meeting/interview (before the final decision whether to rent or not). *Take note of how they keep their car.* Be nonchalant and friendly, chatty, et al:
*That's how they're going to keep their rental.*
So hold up you knew the guy was abusing her and instead of notifying them. You knowing allowed her to be victimized by him. You do realize. HAD YOU CALLED THEM BY THEM PROTECTING THE TENANT IN RETURN IT PROTECTS YOUR "PRECIOUS PROPERTY".
Hope your kids and grandkids know not to call you for help.Cause if it don't benefit you you ain't helping.🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤔🤨🤨🤦🏽♀️
I did not know he was abusing her at the time. I would have loved to call he police on that guy. None of the neighbors called the police either. They just called us after the fact saying the guy drove through our garage door. I wish neighbors didn't have the attitude that snitches get stitches.
I don't like landlords like that who is always spying on there tenants and sending maintenance to spy on people
Thanks for pointing that out, her attitude was so unconcerned
Hey, you're absolutely correct. You are. If you're a property manager/owner, and your tenant tells you about a crime that had been committed on your property, and yet you do absolutely nothing about it, yes you can definitely be considered a knowing participant in that crime. You can. When you rent an apartment or house to anyone and they end up getting assaulted by either another tenant or another individual that's been known to commit a felony on your property, and you do nothing about it, yes you can definitely be considered a willing participant in that criminal activity. It doesn't matter if the victim of that crime has reported it to the authorities, if you have specific knowledge of it, and yet you do absolutely nothing about it or not say anything about it to the authorities, you can definitely be considered a willing participant to it. Once you rent a property to someone you are responsible for having a safe, clean environment for your tenants. If your tenants have had a Window broken out of their vehicle and you know about it and still do nothing about it, and you allow it to continue unchecked, you then become complacent to the criminal activity and therefore, condone the behavior towards others by doing nothing... Yes. You're absolutely right about this...
Yeah, and here's a really good laugh for you... She actually answered this down below. She actually claims that nobody ever told her about him beating the Fuck out of that Girl, claiming that the other tenants never told her anything about it. Yeah. Right.. Yes they did. I can fully assure you that they did, and probably every single time it happened. How can you be living right next door to someone getting beat the Fuck up in the apartment just a few inches away from you right next door and not hear anything? Not listen to it happening to her? Nope. I myself am not buying that for one moment. She knew. She did know about it. She didn't want any type of law enforcement officer showing up at HER property. I mean. Who would want the Police showing up on a daily basis and have the risk of her highly Narcissistic attitude and demeanor being destroyed by the general public who's literally watching it happen in front of her property? Her reputation is on the line and she doesn't want any of her highly Narcissistic and extremely arrogant cohorts seeing this happen and forbid anyone from her Social Club ever catch wind of this. Imagine what her Polo Club might think about her then? My, My, My... How it could be for all of us if in fact we were all as Entitled has her...
In California The mere expiration of a lease or rental agreement is not a “just cause” to terminate a tenancy.
So you need to be investing in DETROIT! 2022 pricing: 3 bedroom house renting for $1,000/mo=$72,000 sale price. I have a few for sale. Right now I only have non-section 8 houses for sale. Several years of payment history. monique@greatdaypm.com. www.greatdaypropertymanagement.com/for-sale. It's all about your boots on the ground. My "boots" are publicized right here. I just posted a house I sold today at 19988 Hickory. The buyer wants a Section 8 tenant there.
Would the selling the house work in CA. Or maybe we’re moving back to the house?
I became a Landlord briefly out of necessity and will never do it again, unless you are a big company that has multiple properties, etc., it is NOT worth it. The average Landlord is a hard working person just trying to do the best they can for themselves and their family. I got tired very quickly of trying to keep things nice for the tenants and getting the destruction and problems in return. God bless anyone that can do this since affordable housing is desperately needed for people.
Being a landlord definitely has its challenges!
@@MoniqueBurns because you should only be LORD to govern your own home. Others should have their own as well.
I grew up in CA with middle class parents who bought a 6 unit apt building as an investment. My Dad did the maintenance while my Mother did the books and cleaned up after the slobs finally moved out....(you can see where I'm going with this).....After living through this I swore to myself I would NEVER be a landlord and I haven't. You are right, it it's worth it, even if you get a property manager. People will look you right in the eye and lie to you.
It takes 90 days in CA (the required 'notice'), but you will be LUCKY if they are gone without fuss in 120 days.
In Michigan the laws have changed about the 30-day notice. The laws have or the judges have. Not really sure. But the pandemic has really hurt tenants and landlords in that we can't get people out expeditiously. Someone has to pay for that and landlords are just raising rents or selling their houses. That means fewer rentals for tenants and more homelessness. Too much government is not good!
Thank you for the details. Very helpful. I would never rent to them due to the dogs, dirt, destruction and lack of reimbursement for damages .
In Michigan MSHDA will reimburse up to $3,000. Dogs, Dirt, and destruction isn’t a Section 8 thing. It’s a product of one’s upbringing usually. I do a home visit before I will rent to anyone so I’m sure they know basic house keeping.
This is good... some of these people are a holes period... we need all the tools available...
Are they a-holes or they just weren't raised as you were? I wonder. I'd prefer to think they just don't know there are other smarter ways to go through life than tearing up houses and being combative with their housing providers. If we don't all do what we can to remove them, the problem perpetuates. People need consequences usually to make changes.
@@MoniqueBurns So many people were not raised like I was. I couldn't put up with the damage they do, or the lack of respect for anything or anyone. Sorry, I don't empathize with these folks. I won't be renting to them.
Hi what’s the difference between a lease and a Section8 contract I’ve been in my rental for 12 years and only signed 1 lease but just did my recertification in June of 2021 and my contract ends in 2022 but landlord decided they want to sell
Your lease is between you and the landlord. It was for one year. After the year was up, your lease probably automatically went month-to-month. The contract is the HAP contract. That's the contract Section 8 has between them, you and the landlord. It's Section 8's promise to pay the landlord their amount and it shows you what your amount is you have to pay. Section 8 will renew that contract yearly with an accompanying inspection and recertification to see if your income changed so they will know if you need to pay more or less the next year.
Nice video. I don’t have a voucher but I live in a subsidized apartment, which is tied to the unit itself. I’m a good tenant, always pay my rent on time, no drugs, and I keep my apartment clean and no damages whatsoever. That being said, I wish I had a voucher because my ceiling in the kitchen has been leaking for over half a year when it rains. I have told the property manager about it and it hasn’t gotten fixed and there is mold on the ceiling now. Also, I am disabled and I have been trying to add someone to be my live in-aide. I got a lease violation because I have been going in and out of the hospital and my friend has been staying with me to help me due to medical reasons and I have a letter from my MD stating that I need a live in-aide but the management doesn’t seem to care I need one.
I have heard the subsidized buildings have the poorest customer service. No competition like with us private landlords. I’m sorry for what you’re going through. Not fair!
COmplain to your US Represenative- in writing. HUD will only take action if you complain to Congressional people first.
I have a section 8 tenant that I believe is running up the utilities maliciously. I had new tenants move into a unit and she had problems with them from the start. Within the first month she wanted them evicted once she realized that wasn't going to happen her utilities started to increase by alot in my opinion. Her water usage up by about 100 gal per day 3000 gal per month. Her heating oil usage is up 50 gal per month when it's always been less than 100 gal per month. This whole winter she's avg 150 per month. And now the electricy is up also, over the last 4yrs her avg KWh usage was 21.45 KWh per day during winter months. Last month her electricy usage went up to 31.87 KWh per day. Tenant is an at-will tenant she was there when I bought property with no lease month to month. My plan at this point is to just not renew the lease and hope she moves out. But my question is do I need to have a valid reason for non renewal? If so are my concerns valid enough? And if I don't renew a tenant's lease will HUD still allow me to rent to other section 8 tenant's? Thanks in advance for any advice and God bless.
You’re not punished by Section 8 for not renewing a lease. When you send the notice that you’re not renewing, also send an eviction notice for if you need to use it. Sometimes they stay well after Section 8 stops paying you. If that happens stay in touch with Section 8 about it so your tenant knows she isn’t looking good to Section 8. In Michigan we don’t have to give a reason to evict people after one year. It’s easiest to state you’re selling your property. But it sounds like a multi family so that excuse may be a little difficult if they talk with each other. Good luck! Keep me posted.
Thank you very much for your sharing ❤
You are Awesome Monique!...And I'm not just saying that because you have my Sister's name haha I love the channel and I just subscribed cheers 😁👍🏾
Thank you!!!
rene must've been drunktyping 🍷🍻
I am considering to rent my property to Sec 8 tenant but I have a question as follow:
What should landlord do if a Sec 8 tenant stop paying his rent portion? In our state if you start a court eviction process you can not accept rent from the tenant until the court date but section 8 administration will continuing paying his portion. Should you ask Sec 8 administration to stop paying you until the court date? Appreciate your reply.
Oh, wow! Great question. Has anyone reading this had experience with this issue? In Michigan we can accept money until the end unless we do a 30-day notice. With a 30-day notice that is stating to just leave, we have to start the 30 days all over again if we accept money. I hope someone can help answer your question. Thanks for asking it.
@@MoniqueBurns Thanks a lot for replying. Here in Georgia I believe it is the same but, you should give a 60 days notice not 30 days.
If tenant is not paying his rent portion you will file an eviction. If you won the eviction tenant would lose his voucher until he pays the money he owes.
By the way I asked GA real-estate lawyers dealing with evictions and they were not sure about Sec 8 paying rent during the eviction process that is because Sec 8 is Federal laws and the court of eviction is Start laws and this can cause confusion in court.
I am thrilled to watch this.
You are either a landlord witnessing the abuse of Section 8 or you’re a tenant being sarcastic and not appreciating that I advise removing abusers so the good people can get vouchers. Are you really thrilled? Just curious. Thanks for watching regardless.
Lovely video, I dig your positive vibes.
It IS a positive thing to remove the scammers off the system so the people who desperately need housing and aren't scammers can use the system.
@@MoniqueBurns I wholeheartedly agree. There's far too many people out there abusing the system and they're the ones most likely to destroy your property as well. I would love to hear some horror stories from tenants if you have anymore lol.
Stay safe, God bless
Can I rent from you?! Great video great advice, thank you for making this video.
I'm on Section 8, Im 62 years old & it's very difficult to find decent housing with a voucher. I don't know why but so many landlords believe that if you're on Section 8 you're going to destroy their property or do drugs or bring people to live in their house, bring in undocumented animals, cause trouble, etc.
And when you're lucky enough to find a decent place in a decent part of town they have a high turnover of managers & along comes A manager who doesn't know what they're doing & doesn't like you, even though you had zero problems with all the previous managers & makes your life not fun at all.
I wish I lived in Detroit cuz you seem like a reasonable person, + you know what you're doing, you actually have experience managing properties & people.
Thank you for giving people on Section 8 a chance, for being willing to look past the stigma.🙏🥰
Thank you for the kind words! I'm sorry what you're going through.
Not a chance... Not a chance... Are you lucid? You realize she's actually telling you that once she's sick and tired of you, you're out on your Ass. Because, when she does get sick and tired of you, you're going to be receiving a 30 day notice of intent to not renew your lease, and with that 30 day notice, now remember this came directly out of her mouth, once you get that 30 day notice she's definitely going to be serving you with an eviction notice as well. She made this very clear that is her intention. You know. Karen here wishes to destroy your entire credit score, your future endeavors for getting another place to live, and believe me she's going to attempt causing you to lose your Sec-8 voucher... She's already said this is her main intention... And you want to rent from her? Lots of luck with that one.. Lots of luck ever having a safe environment for yourself and your family because you rented an apartment from her...
Thank you for the information
My pleasure. You must be an owner. Tenants hate this video because they feel it's a way to remove good people from housing. It's a way to remove BAD people so the good ones can get vouchers.
I love how she compliments herself. How Schizophrenic.
I used to live in Detroit when I was on HUD never been on section 8 I'm here in New York on section 8 and I'm not liking the section 8 here in New York City I plan to move back to Michigan in one year I might have to come sooner I'm trying to see maybe I might have to go into a shelter soon cuz I'm trying to get me here in New York City
Sounds difficult. I'm sorry you're under a stressful housing situation.
Okay I have a question I have section8 and I got evicted and I have court tomorrow if I don’t show up do i get terminated and if I do how long before I can replay for it here in tx
I don’t know. I’m not sure if you can get Section 8 again if you are terminated from Section 8.
why is Flint water so bad then? where do they get their water from?
Flint used to get its water from Detroit. After they went on their own, they discovered their own pipes were full of lead. Lots of people went down for that blunder.
@@MoniqueBurns yeah they got a worldwide black eye for that, the whole US got a horrible grade in that a 1st world country could let any of its citizens live that poorly. Detroit currently gets that same black eye for the un safest city in US as well isn't didn't Detroit go bankrupt? And the city is still shrinking more than any other city in US. When will it go under 600k?
One part of your strategy needs to be complaining to your US representative/Senator, with a copy to HUD. HUD actually will sometimes take action, if the Congressional letters are coming in. Otherwise... HUD supervisors couldn't care less.
I appreciate the advice. I will try that!
I, as a renter's advocate, regularly file complaints to HUD regarding brazen slumlords. So, just an FYI, but it cuts BOTH ways. 😊
I was thinking about going the section 8 route, not anymore. Sounds like too much headache to be worth it. I’m sure my state’s rules are different but I bet they are not that much different. Meth is a huge problem here as is alcohol, both tend to lead to property damage
My area is very low income so Section 8 is the best option to me. We don't have a huge meth issue here. Some people choose to not deal with it. There are certainly pros and cons.
First you allow section at your property and now turn your back
I do not turn my back on people with vouchers. Quite the opposite. When voucher holders scam the system, they don’t deserve the voucher anymore. There are plenty of good people who need vouchers. Vouchers should not be taken up by scammers.
Here's how to get rid of a section 8 tenant DON'T RENT TO SECTION 8 BUT MOST OF YOU LANDLORDS NEED SECTION 8 BECOME ITS GUARANTEED MONEY THAT'S PAID ON TIME & YOUR PROPERTIES WOULD BE VACANT YALL JUST AS BROKE AS THE PEOPLE YOU RENT TO 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes
@@truthteller5521 so who gaf 😂
I agree, The landlord dose not even own the land The contract on the land is null and void 1999 the United States Corporation came out of its 3 bankruptcy and the title 4 flag was captured. Land vs Sea.
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@@truthteller5521 Sad
Yep! And people think landlords are RICH. Not so much.
Loved this video, helps a lot as a landlord, best thing I can advise to home owners is NEVER host a section 8 tenant.
But you don't know that that's the answer. Having Section 8 doesn't equate to bad tenants. I've had Section 8 and non Section 8. The best tenants are the ones I did a home visit on before they were allowed to rent my home. Didn't matter whether or not they had a voucher. That's like getting a few bad tenants who all coincidentally were gingers then thinking the problem is that they're gingers. No, you didn't screen them well. Poor gingers get so picked on!
I reside in San Diego, Ca and lost my section 8 voucher due to it expiring. Could not find a place @ all.
California housing costs are out of control. They have made it so it's not a good investment for landlords to provide housing, from what I've heard. Rent control hurts tenants. It forces people to move to a state that is more investor friendly so there is competition in housing and thus more housing. I've very sorry to hear you lost your voucher. That's terrible!
Hello and thanks for the vid. Just wanted to ask you a quick question which I think you already answered but I’d like your advice.
Tenants yearly lease ended March 2022. I sent them and section the letter of lease cancellation on December 2021. Section has extended their voucher to find a new home until July 2022. I have a feeling the tenants will not find a home by July 2022 and will just ask for an extension of the voucher and section 8 will gladly extend again.
I am still receiving rent from section 8 all the while. Should I just wait and see how long section 8 will extend this? My issue is that the lease was up on March 2022, and I’m wondering how long will section 8 extend for.
Also, if I wanted to evict now , all I have to do is send a letter to tenants and section 8 that I’ll be evicting in 30 days due to sale of house? Simple as that?
Nothing is simple as that! When I need them out, I send the 30 day eviction notice, which in Michigan says the tenant has 30 days to leave, not renewing the lease. I send that with the letter letting them know it’s practice to send it with my written notice to them of when I want them out. Send both the notice and the letter to their caseworker as well. You may have to actually take them to court to get them to want to move though. It’s really not the point whether Section 8 pays or not. Section 8 is just the bank. You still have to exercise the law of being a landlord. I hope that answers what you’re asking.
Yes
This gave me a knot in my throat. You know that these people wait for years for the privilege to enjoy housing that they can afford. When you give a notice to evict them because you don’t like them, the eviction will stay on their record for years. Which means that not only are they terminated from Section 8, but will find it nearly impossible to find other housing. The situation is amplified if they are older, disabled or have children in the home. Giving one months notice to get out is terribly unfair as it is extremely hard to find affordable housing even if you have a clean background. Most if not all of these people will wind up living on the streets. Your streets get particularly cold in the winter-below zero. I’m Seriously upset. It’s soulless. It’s nasty. May God forgive you.
A lease is a binding legal agreement between tenant and landlord. Both need to follow the rules, if not, there are consequences. Usually people who immediately side with tenants w/o knowing the situation aren’t property agents or landlords and have no idea what they’re talking about. If you’re so concerned, let some of those families live in your home without rules or paying rent. Let us know how it works out.
I'm sorry you feel that way about me. I would never evict someone because I didn't LIKE them. I only evict people who refuse to follow the rules. When people lose their vouchers because they don't follow the rules, then people who desperately need vouchers are given an opportunity. Before the one month notice there are lease violations that need to be corrected. It's never just a month's notice. Even when I have given people notice, if they are truly looking for a new place (their next landlord has called me for a reference and has told me he's getting the house ready still), then I let them stay as long as they need to. Are you suggesting I should let people stay in my house if they're destroying it and not paying for it? Do you let people do that to your property because they have children or they're disabled or they're elderly?
Great reply! Thank you.
She definitely seems to discriminate, I hope HUD takes her Section 8 privilege away. The way she talks & negatively speaks about people on the program. Hopefully her family never needs it.
Lady judge people by the content of their character. My aunt had your mentality and regretted it. You have a personal vendetta and you are so evil and hatful your willing to smug the good names and reputations of good people. God don't like ugly. You have lost out on his blessing. I hope it was worth it.
My goal is more Section 8 for deserving people. People who abuse the system, you're saying, should be allowed to continue to do so?
Once again, a bad section 8 tenant from hell that is just trying to get over on the world. Suck it up cuz, I ain't rentin to no fool.
Thanks, this video is a great public service. It sounds like you are describing a complete failure of a program and a complete waste of taxpayer dollars.
Hah! I did learn something from a Salvation Army volunteer. She said you have to give to a lot of bad apples to reach the good apples who truly benefit from the giving. It is VERY hard to see the bad apples when I know full well there are good ones who can't get the help our welfare system is for.
Section 8 person moved into our quiet neighborhood ,,,well they party every night literally no joke, and have 3 extra people living in their house ,,they have 4 brand new 2024 cars and they get more Amazon packages than almost everyone combined on our block and they have threatened and damaged others cars ,,,,,,and she is trying to sue more than 4 neighbors for over 600k for coming together and making a complaint to the management.....
What a nightmare! I hate to hear about people so blessed with help from our tax money program go and take full advantage. I saw this sort of thing happen with someone getting Salvation Army handouts once years ago. I knew the women in charge at the Salvation Army and I gave them my two cents. CRINGE. Their response was, "Well, Monique, we know. We have to help a lot of people like that to get to the people with the true needs." It's tough! Our lesson from WWII was to not let evil happen while we stand by, but then when you don't stand by, you're suddenly accused of being a Karen. I hope my video helped.
@@MoniqueBurns 😡 😡 Thats the problem ,the truth gets called out like its a sin !!!! our future generations are in for a sick surprise !
Thank you. Am in the process of evicting a dead beat section 8 tenants. He hasn't paid rent in five months. He is so rude and wouldn't even talk to me.
Sorry to hear what you're going through. Keep his caseworker looped in with all your court documents. There are plenty of people who aren't RUDE who need Section 8. They'll thank you for helping open up a new slot at Section 8.
1 pro bono attorney can ruin your year+.
Please do not take her up on her offer to contact for advice. Contact and attorney. She has stated several falsehoods which can be reason for tenant to file in small claims court and win a judgement. Legal Aid attorneys are free and do a better job than what most landlords think. Everyone on section 8 qualifies for legal aid. Many hear of the victories of the landlord in small claims court against the tenant but few hear of the victories of section 8 tenants getting judgments against their current or prior landlord. It happens more than most think.
True, I am not an attorney. I do not offer advice on legal matters. I only know what I know from my experience as a landlord. My tenants typically like me. No one has had any reason to file a claim against me. When people do ask for advice from me and I truly don’t know the answer, I happily refer them elsewhere. It’s amazing the responses from a video that tries to help the more qualified people have room to get on Section 8. It’s like people take offense and want scammers to keep using up the limited amount of vouchers. If someone is NOT a scammer then by all means, get legal aid. I agree that they’re great. I advise tenants all the time to get legal aid. I hear horror stories from applicants almost every day. I wish they had legal aid for landlords too. This pandemic has been very hard on most landlords.
CORRECT!!!
Guide me through being a neighbor of a section 8 home....the landlord cares not that 2 families and over 12 people are living in a 1300 sq ft home. and they have no vehicle and children are not attending school. This is a safe neighborhood with many children and elderly people. This home is junky in the front yard and throws trash. I have seen multiple "drug deals". I am trying to take action.
Email me! Monique@greatdaypm.com. That's not fair to the neighborhood.
You need to STOP BEATING THE BUSH and get to your point. You need to provide answer to the question you intend to answer... ----------> How to remove a Section 8 tenant from your property...... Very good video, but your ADHD got out of control and you were all over the place in your thoughts.... Stay focused....get to the point....
Harsh! Have you ever made a video? It's very difficult to talk into a camera. I did my best.
I pulled up a document on Section 5 reimbursement for unpaid rent and damages. Anyone heard of this?
Yes! I’ve seen the paperwork but I haven’t met anyone yet who has used it. They also have sign-on bonuses for renting to voucher holders. I’m about to try that.
HOW MUCH IS SPENT ON HAIR AND NAILS OR HAIR FROM SOMEONE ELSE
Maybe you should go into the hair and nail business??? lol
Yes, indeed, I have seen that myself. I have seen how those wombats live! Unsupervised children, boyfriend sells drugs. Stay out of the nightclubs and don't take anyone home. Nightclubs-kids are complete idiots
She is right , landlords are in the business of providing housing not to fix and baby sit your situation..they are not government employees, social workers or charity. They are using and investment property to generate income.
They are doing you a favor to exposed their property to welfare recipients ... if the stories were good, better houses in better neighborhoods would be available because money talks... but is going the opposite way. Just have human decency and take care of other people’s property.
Agree totally! We all just need to do our part and everyone gets along just fine, right?? 😃
Raising the rent just because someone is on section 8 is terrible. They are doing it just because the government will give them the money. I do not like this lady at all. She is symptomatic of a lot of people have known in my life who just like to take advantage of other people. What has happened to people's ethics? Do people even know what ethics means anymore?
We were born to be people first, before business people. There are many company’s that operate ethically today.
@@edwinnochebuena1214 this is one sided..how about Monopoly be played fairly?! What sense does it make to go above and beyond KICKING ON OFF A PROGRAM THAT TAKES MONEY FROM THEIR TRUST.
People BUY YOUR OWN. Let's make sure these slum LORDS pay their own Mort-gage
Karen
Are you calling me Karen? That's funny! That's a first for me.
NAILED IT😂😂😂😂😂
To the FIFTH DEGREE
I don't think you are a Karen. So many trolls have nothing better to do. I hope they are section 8 tenants that get kicked out due to their criminal boyfriends who smoke meth and are just bad dudes.
At 5:00 : Really? I accept that a landlord would say anything to get a horrible tenant moved out and into YOUR rental. They really are in a tough spot. If they tell the truth to you their bad tenants will take longer to move. They may be on your side in heart, but can't bear to tell it like it is.
It's a tough situation!
I was thinking the same thing
Entitled folks should become a property owner (or at least someone who can afford market rent) prior to critiquing one about what she does with HER property. And Monique, I wish you all the best...I'm a landlord myself who lives stress-free as I'm not renting to folks on section 8. If need be, it's far easier to collect a judgement from a gainfully employed former tenant.
I'm not sure I understand who you're referring to as entitled. I've had far less stress with my longtime Section 8 tenants than my "collectible" ones. I only rent to around 30% Section 8 tenants. I'm happy for you that you're living stress free. You should make videos about your success.
@@MoniqueBurns I am referring to several individuals who commented on this post who indicated that they believe they are owed something that they haven't paid for. I believe I read every comment here and quite frankly, I found some of them disturbing. Some of the commenters appear to have an external locus of control, among other things. I am of the firm belief that at the end of the day "why" someone can't pay their rent and uphold their end of our contract doesn't really matter. This doesn't not entitle someone to live in that space for free. Anyway, yes, I would assume that long term section 8 tenants are safer than newer section 8 tenants, but it's just not worth the up-front risk to me. I'm pleased to learn that this is all working out well for you. All the best...
Can section 8 force a landlord to lower rent from 1600 to 1225 after the tenant already sign the lease in agreement ?
I've never heard of that. I can't say I know but I'd be surprised if they could. Talk with Jay at www.Sectoin8Consulting.com about it. If that happened, he will know the rules to fight it.
yes absolutely
@@MoniqueBurns There is actually a chart prepared by HUD with maximum rents for a specific situation (by number of bedrooms). Michigan even has deductions and additions for different situations like landlord paid utilities, no landlord provided refrigerator, etc.
Hi Monique, can a landlord evict a section 8 tenant for partial rental payment. My current tenant has not been paying rent in full for the past 2 months. Also, the tenant has not given me the full security deposit since he/she moved in (I know, that is my fault. Not going to happen again.). Is this also a violation to have the tenant evicted? Thank you.
Have you notified the tenant about the payments due, refuse to accept rent until current with late fees. Alerting the tenant about pass due rents and deposits puts them on notice. Some people are so straddled with resentment, stereotypes and discrimination towards section 8 tenants but others receiving tax payer money get passes, if ever most wake up and realize this world is so backwards and upside down in fairness and equity maybe then things could change for the better. I've see high rents property be trashed by well to do people, domestic violence crosses all economical households across the board. Section 8 has a major part in the overall high cost of rents. I wonder how much rents would drop if section 8 reduces its subsidies back to realistically values. The goverment takes money away unfairly to many people paying social security taxes, thru unfair penalties or offsets, yet then in turn give money to landlords and tenants without any of those or nor do they create offsets and penalties for those receiving tax payers money, one group get penalties for labor wages, those getting funding for housings as the owners are getting equity and property payments and the other gets a rental dwelling to live in either of those two work or are compensated like a wage earners that is also paying for housing. You want to talk about fairness? Some of those goverment offset are assured proverty and depression roads.
Yes
I agree with Angrycannibal. Yes!
And you could literally sue Monique for giving bad legal advice because in many jurisdictions, the answer is NO. Despite the fact that I graduated from law school, I would NEVER answer a question like this one. Yet, here she is dishing out legal advice WITHOUT a law license. 👀
To remove a unwelcome section 8 tenant, I understand that landlord can refuse to sign a new lease. But if the tenant just won't leave, the landlord can lose the voucher income from the voucher because there is lease. How can we prevent this situation?
Always send a 30-day notice of eviction when you send the notice you won’t be renewing the lease. At least the court can help you if the person chooses to stay. You could also send a copy of the notices to their caseworker. If the person won’t leave anyway, make a paper trail with Section 8 about it and cc the tenant. Prevent it? You cannot. It’s rare I’ve run into this because voucher holders don’t want to risk losing their voucher. Also ask the tenant to be in communication with their new landlord to know for yourself about the timing. With the housing shortage these days, I’d give the tenant 60 days to move and send the notice of eviction 30 days out from the end of the lease and let them know why you are sending it, to protect yourself. It doesn’t go on their record unless they truly don’t leave.
Don't take section 8.
Until they force you to,@@ursulasmith6402 "Income-based discrimination" is increasingly illegal each and every day. It's spreading to eliminate you filthy, greedy slumlords. Expect it. You've been warned.
You know. Making someone homeless who is probably already poor and low income it’s going to help them. It just adds to the homeless population. You a good reason that Us Dept Of housing and Urban Development stay in Business. And hopefully the people you trying to get kicked off there hud vouchers know there rights. And they can file a Us dept of housing urban development complaint as well as call legal Services. I think evicting them and moving on is the better. Then them losing there Section 8.
So you believe if a Section 8 voucher holder abuses landlords and property that they should get to keep that voucher when plenty of other clean rule following tenants need vouchers?
I believe you aren’t god. And that is over your pay grade. You aren’t God. You aren’t Donald Trump. That isn’t your call. And one day. You might find yourself kicked off the Program. Like some other landlords. And hopefully who has ever rented from you. Know there rights. If you pulled that in Missouri they would have Probably Sued you in Federal court. And file a complaint against you with the Us dept of Housing and Urban Development. Cause remember always 2 sides to a Story. Again you aren’t god. If you so against section 8 go rent to Market renters. But no you don’t want that. Cause hud helps your lifestyle.
@@MoniqueBurns I agree, scammers and scum should be kicked out of everything. Get to work, you bozo fools.
Duluth courts helps landlords get people off of section 8 what up bang up job
Tell me more. What do you mean?
My tenant section 8 was given termination of lease and she was suppose to move out 9/30/22 but she didn't so we gave her 30 day notice to vacate and she still didn't move out but found a new place to put deposit on; she stopped paying rent after Section 8 stopped paying effective October 1, 2022; Section 8 emailed me saying if tenant stays beyond the 9/30/22, tenant is responsible for full rent; Well tenant has not paid a cent towards rent for October so we filed eviction November hoping to end this saga by end of NOvember or mid December; However, the courts are suddenly very busy with bulk apartment evictions with 40 to 50 cases a month so court date got pushed back to January 18, 2023; By then she will owe 4 months rents; She signed the RTA in November 25 (a month after she found another place to live); Now waiting on scheduling of inspection and passing of inspection of her new place (Please God?) so she can get the HELL OUT OF MY HOUSE; She infested my home with roaches twice! She is dirty and always full of excuses (too sick, blaming old house, bombing house not working, no money for Pest control); Yet she works doing food delivery and sometimes shifts on Amazon; Mentioned paying for tickets (she was out of town for her dad's funeral) and gifts for kids; OK I know this is not the same amount as rent; She also did some small damages to house (hole on wall, crack on door) saying her kids were fighting and caused the damage; She also painted a dark color over top half of bedroom wall, heavy scuff marks all over, missing smoke alarms, broken window blinds, stained carpet due to dog we know about;
IF YOU GAVE SECTION 8 TENANT NONRENEWAL OR TERMINATE LEASE WITH A LEASE END DATE (REQUEST TO MOVE OUT WITH AN END DATE) NOTICE, THEY SHOULD STOP PAYING THE RENT SO YOU CAN FILE FOR EVICTION;
You've got me confused. If the tenant isn't paying, you have the ability to take her to court. Every court document needs to also be submitted to her caseworker along with lease violations like not paying rent and tenant cause damages. That can cost the tenant her voucher. It probably won't but it COULD which is a foolish thing for the tenant to do. That whole victim thing is nauseating and common. You may have to collect the missing rent payments via small claims court, which records should also be submitted to her caseworker and she should be warned that that's what you're doing so maybe she's motivated to quit being a victim and take some responsibility. I've been stuck with a nonpaying tenant longer than what you're talking about due to clogged courts, granted not Section 8 though. Usually they're too scared of losing their vouchers. Good luck! Keep me posted.
So, what you're saying is... Yiu screwed up but somehow it is all section 8 renters faults now!! 😅😂🎉 The Idiocracy! Must've inherited the property you're renting out!
What city you in?
Detroit.
SOUNDS LIKE PUBLIC SCHOOL SHOULD NOT BEE PAID FOR BY TAX PAYERS PROPERTY OWNERS RESPONSIBLE FOR SIDEWALK AND REPAIRS MAINTENANCE
Can you explain what you're saying? Are you saying taxes shouldn't go to schools but a better use is sidewalks?
Ive been in my apt with section 8 for 12 years (disabled on SSI) and I have NEVER had one issue. My contract ends on 4/30 each year and we went through the inspection and they updated the new rental amount and signed everything on the precertification and I thought everything was fine. Then on 04/14/23 my landlord handed me a notice that she was not renewing my lease and yet she came to my door on 04/17/23 and handed me the brand spanking new section 8 contract that we had already filled out which is valid from 05/01/23-04/30/24 and I’m so lost! She has submitted nothing to Housing That States she wants to break my new contract and housing only knew about this because I called them because I was very confused on what was going on. So now they tell me that if I don’t move by the deadline that I will get an eviction notice and if I get an eviction notice I lose my housing? In my original contract it says the landlord is to give notice in writing if she wants the tenant to move at the end of the contract addendum or if she wants to break in the middle of the contract they are to give good cause, So the tenant has a chance to legally defend themselves. I cannot believe that there are no rights for the tenants in the situation and I’m literally going to be homeless… for those of you that accept these section 8 vouchers, I sure hope you do it for a better reason than making extra money because this program is supposed to be designed to prevent homelessness and that’s exactly where I’m going to be. It’s most likely because I had to report the landlord for a nasty mold problem that they neglected for 6 months (made me very ill) that the maintenance man caused when he broke a water pipe under My cabinet. It cost them a lot of money to repair, they have told me over and over how expensive it was but that is not my fault…so this is complete retaliation but I guess that’s legal too right? 😪
Retaliatory evicting is NOT legal. I hope you get it figured out and you don’t end up homeless. I’m sorry for what you’re going through.
I agree with this person. That is why l don't believe these tenants are causing damage. These landlords rent bad property to tenants to collect free money and do repairs on their better Apts. So when it backfires on the landlord, the landlord wants to gaslight everyone and say the tenant trashed the apt. You know you gave the tenant the faulty apt and treat the tenant like they are getting a free apt...
Not this lady in this video
What happened, hun? Don't ask the dummy that made this vid. She JDGAF about renters.
In California this is against the law.
Section 8 is a HUD program, which is federal. I don't know how turning in someone for breaking HUD rules could be illegal in any state. Can you be more specific?
@@MoniqueBurnsyou seem to discriminate when you call section 8 Tenants as "Those People" - A lot of Vets are on Section 8, the way you talk-Kinda the reason why it's hard to get a landlord to rent, you make it sound like every Section 8 Tenant is dirty, there not.
@@tessabishop5455 I’m sorry if you took it that way. That’s the label I’m trying to remove. My own Section 8 tenants are wonderful. They’ve been with us now into their second decade. I PREFER Section 8 tenants totally.
@@MoniqueBurns That's nice thank you. It has a terrible reputation & they are giving higher vouchers for landlords, but we still get turned down. I'm single with no kids, pets, just a medical history. I am glad you put out the positive vibes section 8. Inspections are a must I 💯 agree.
THEY PROBABLY AREN'T LITERATE NOTICE HOW LONG AND MESSY HANDWRITING WRITING THEIR OWN NAME
I feel badly for people who aren't that literate. The schools here shouldn't allow that to happen. Not today.
Consultation is free????
My CZcamsr friend Jay at Section 8 Consulting can give very specific advice. You can try to email me and I'll let you know if I can help or not. Monique@greatdaypm.com
What if that section 8 resident has threatened you ?
I don't actually know. It seems to me the caseworker at Section 8 would tell you to call the police. They don't like to get involved. But I've heard it helps if you email them something they can put in a file. If other issues come up with that tenant, then there is already your information too. So many people need Section 8 that anyone with it who is out there threatening their landlord shouldn't be on it.
TROUBLE
Trouble everywhere in this business.
Some good tips, but I disagree with not notifying Section 8 office of lease violations. It doesn't five them an opportunity to help you. Also, a good inspector should take filth into account. The meth rule is a federal rule...lol
Thank you for commenting! I will turn over a new leaf and send in lease violations. Not all PHAs are equal. I'll let you know how they do!
Inspectors NEVER EVER EVER have supported us when tenants are filthy. Has anyone else found that kind of help from an inspector? Curious. I think inspectors could be far more supportive of landlords. Yes, give valid corrections, but the filth thing....HELP! Let me go with your inspector one day and write up some lease violations you and the landlords need to see.
Okay, okay about meth houses. They are dangerous. It's just scary to mess with someone's drug business.
It's a fine line inspections walk, but I completely agree with you.
@@judaspreistvlct It is odd that landlords feel tenants have all the rights and tenants feel landlords have all the rights. It is very hard for us landlords to get our houses back. It can take MONTHS. We don’t usually want tenants out unless they aren’t paying rent or causing some drama. Rental money is income. Everyone needs their income. Almost everyone anyway. Thanks for commenting.
You serve no purpose in society
@@judaspreistvlct I understand. It’s legalized-theft and going the way of the milkman.
My landlords, since I moved into an apartment which takes Section 8, has been a real pain in the ass. She kept getting on my ass about cleanliness despite the fact that I am disabled and live alone. She acts like my apartment is her apartment, and she wants to keep it nice and tidy.
I got her to shut the hell up one day. One of my sisters was once married to a guy whom did housing inspections for everyone under the sun. I called him up, and he said that unless you forget to pay your rent; put massive sized holes in the walls; bust some windows; destroy some major appliances; etc., having a clean and tidy apartment does not make someone whom receives Section 8 a bad tenant. He also said that because I am disabled, and have a hard time getting around, most judges would just tell the landlord to stop harassing the tenant. Also, he told me that most landlords do not do anything to actually "document" these violations other than saying that they are violations. They don't even take pictures of the violations for fear of being sued for invasion of privacy.
Another thing about a harassing landlord, get them to shut up by filing a complaint with the police for harassment. This is a paper trail that can come in handy if you are taken to court for eviction. Also, when you file the complaint, take photos of your place, and then keep the complaint with the photos so that Section 8 and the judge can see it for themselves. If you make the landlord's credibility go South, then the judge isn't going to believe anything the landlord says without hard evidence. In the end, it will be more of a hassle for the landlord than for the tenant when it comes towards eviction.
I have a thing for clean baseboards. It just BUGS me to see dust and grime on baseboards. In my own house I go around with a hot washcloth while I"m on the phone until I notice I'm panting from all the up and down and crawling around. I also can't stand to see handprints on door casings or around door knobs. Drives me up a wall and makes me want to gag. But I would NEVER put my own cleanliness on someone else. I can barely keep up on my own house. There's cleanliness and there's outright damage. Damage is what I'm referring to in this video. I can't imagine going in someone else's home and VISIBLY gagging at their baseboards. Hopefully, I'm hiding how I feel. Unlike my mother. Despite my clean baseboards, she has a thing for dust on lightbulbs. I can't keep up with that nor do I care. See where I get my baseboard fixation from? Haha. We all have our things. I'd like to think we all do our best not to be outright negligent. I'm sorry your landlord is judging you.
If I were your landlord, I could take pictures too when I come to inspect the apartment. If you are a pig, then you are a pig, but if not, then just let it go. It is not an invasion of privacy to take pictures during and inspection. Pictures speak for themselves. If someone files a complaint against me, with the police, then you bet your lease will not be renewed. I love when tenants think they can get away with stuff during an eviction. I hope all landlords document to the 9's ,and get rid of rift raft tenants. Bad tenants ruin it for a lot of ya.
@@TL-wy1nk The only thing is that by not renewing a tenant's lease, you open yourself up to a lawsuit for a whole bunch of money. Is it really worth it to not renew a lease especially after a judge rules against you when trying for an eviction order? Many responsible tenants will try their best to keep up with restriction - when physically/mentally able to, but if you do not want the hassle, then do not rent to anyone.
They all are bad. I refused to set my property up for section 8 tenants. They ruin your property.
We can't say such broad statements like that. I have plenty of really good Section 8 tenants. It's not Section 8 that means people are bad. It's usually poverty and poor parenting and no role models and no ethics. I've had an equal amount of bad or good cash paying tenants too. My own Section 8 tenants have been with us over a decade and some keep house better than I do. They used the program to get through college or provide stable housing enough to get their kids through college. It's been rewarding to see.
@MoniqueBurns I am happy for you. Maybe your experience came at a different time. But this time in my life, I won't risk it. That's any business decision. Yes, I believe a lot of things in life are the cause and effect of poor parenting, how you were raised, lack of opportunities, lack of vision, lack of money, and discrimination. With the spirit of discernment, i will continue to succeed, and trust section 8 is NOT the route for me.👍
I knew someone on section 8 had her 2 daughters, her mom and baby's dad and he worked all in a 2 bedroom. The mom and boyfriend didn't belong there.
That happens a LOT! There are always people taking as much as there is to take.
@@MoniqueBurns Scammers are thieves.
Guillotines really need to come back in style
I’ve read it’s the most painless corporal punishment. Not that there are polls taken. Thankfully we now have a justice system. You wouldn’t want to be the innocent person back then.
They're saying that they hate you. Effectively calling you Marie Antoinette, since you're too clueless to figure that out on your own.
Hey can you explain how late fees work with section 8 tenants?
Are we allowed to charge let's say $100 for late fees? Are there restrictions? Laws that we need to know about? I am in California.
Please let me know or make a video on this specific subject. Thanks!!!
If the managing agent won't tell you, write to your US Representative. I assure you the message will go to HUD fast, and HUD will prioritize your response over anything else they do. Any complaint coming in over Congressional letterhead they move fast to respond to.
@@mpa8336 which managing agent are you referring to?
You do know that an answer in Michigan IS NOT VALID in CALIFORNIA, RIGHT?!? If you don't know at least that much, get out if the biz.
@@DarkKnightBruce you do know that I clearly ask for an answer that applies to CALIFORNIA right? If you can’t read then PLEASE GET OUT OF THIS BIZ!!!
@@balla2828I'm not a landlord, dimwit! So dimwitted that you're asking a non-lawyer from Detroit a legal question for California. Durrr🎉😂😅
I sent this video to your local section 8 and sent a email telling them to watch what you are doing to people! I hope you go to jail for this!
They are welcome to email me at Monique@greatdaypm.com. I welcome their comments. Thanks for forwarding this.
@@MoniqueBurns says the slumlord. You better get a lawyer
This is not so much a section 8 issue... its a detroit issue.
Which part do you think is a Detroit issue? I haven't worked as a Section 8 landlord anywhere else so I wouldn't know.
Good tenants are hard to find! I've been living where I have lived for 14 years. I never had a problem until I asked to have my roof fixed. Yeah Section 8 can make you homeless they did it to me and it wasn't for a reason other than I complained about issues with the roof! Maybe if some landlords instead of doing nothing to help the tenants were nicer to the tenants like me who are good tenants and been here 14 years maybe they could keep good tenants! I found that most of the problems in my city with slums is due to Section 8 their inspections are not the same and up to code like the real inspector! And if you complain then you can be homeless with children like I was no other reason than you complained keep evidence on your slumlord I did! And my last scumbag landlord named Mike agnabine from Oakfield New York tried making me pay for heat in the middle of winter just to get me out cuz I have to have the roof fixed so I have a red dot on me cuz of a scumbag landlord when I lived there seven freaking years! How about how do you get rid of slumlords without being homeless? How do slumlords collect taxpayers money cuz I was a taxpayer until I lost my leg how do they collect all that money and get all those tax breaks when they don't fix anything!? You're just all about the money you don't care about people what's more important to you is your money. Well maybe if somebody's a good tenant a landlord should give them a little break once in awhile throw them at turkey at Christmas something anything all the money you made of the poor and the government maybe you should give something back instead of a slum! Oh really one year at a time how come I only get month by month lease? Oh wait I live in Genesee County New York that's probably why well you wait to see what happens with my landlord cuz if they're going to throw me out on the street they won't be collecting slumlord money anymore when I'm done! Cuz there are way more bad landlords than bad tenants that's what I think and they should be weeded out and nobody should be getting a tax break for being a scumbag landlord you get giant tax breaks and then treat people like s*** like me with one leg because I asked to have a roof fix that leaks into the house and that I'm homeless after that and they got big expensive lawyers that they got with the money they got from people like me and the government so they can screw me out of my security and everything you will never get that back either it's a crooked program HUD Section 8 that's what it is! Oh so if somebody's a good tenant you just don't fix things so you can get them out! Well I'm going to call the attorney general like all the other people that live in a slum like I do they got to be thrown out in the street because the landlord won't fix anything and he's the head of the GOP in Batavia New York Richard Siebert call him up tell him I said that I don't give a crap! Maybe if he wasn't a slumlord with 30 slum homes then I wouldn't say that cuz that's the truth he gets rich off poor people and the government for doing nothing for the people could care less if they die or live as long as he gets the rent money! I'd be happy to have a good landlord I'm 60 years old and live there the rest of my life until I die a landlord that gave a s*** about me that even had decent people to mow the lawn or anything fix something the people who take out the garbage to the dump in Stafford New York they're all lowlifes crack dealers and a bunch of freaking retards! And tomorrow one of them is coming to my house to look at the roof and he's not a God damn roofer! Well 2 years ago I called my slumlord and he says he can't afford a roof and you also can't afford not to put a roof cuz then when you don't you got to tear the whole roof off oh well maybe you just won't be collecting money anymore if you screw over enough poor people especially if one of them is like me I got nothing to lose they use your kids against you well I don't have kids with me anymore like when they made me homeless before for complaining that's how I ended up in this s*** hole and I'm physically disabled and I cannot physically freaking move so if they're going to throw me out it's going to take them quite some time cuz tenants have rights also! If you want good tenants treat them good and don't make stupid videos like this man if I was your tenant I wouldn't like this
I’m so sorry. There are bad landlords and bad tenants, why don’t they ever seem to find each other?
Great response! Thank you.
Born and raised in Detroit and happily living in South Texas . Peace
Texas has people on Section 8 too! Bet it's warmer there.
Why rent in Detroit when you can get free housing in those blights??????
Because free housing in those blights is stealing and not sanitary.
YOU JUST FIND BETTER TENANTS
Right! Always the goal but sometimes I strike out.
Best water in the country 😂😂😂 chill ! Ohio water is like 200miles away
But Ohio is just miles of scary corn fields! Did you not see Devil in Ohio? I'll take Michigan any day! Just funning with you!
California Section 8 is very supportive of property owners. I am trying to stay nice.
Leasors like yourself a lot of times abuse their position. I maybe missed something but, why is it your desire to not solely force a tenant out but also force them to lose their vouchers? Sounds like an admission of a God complex to say you are the determiner of who should and should not maintain a voucher. This video, like the commenters want to attack Section 8 recipients for every human imperfection as tenants. Let's just take a look within your own family. How perfectly do your children walk not run? Or pick everything up? I bet you as a teenager did not and probably still do not. Not everyone can pass the buck by hiring others to perform their mommy or daddy labors for a day. You commented on a single young mother having her boyfriend over to often for your taste. If he was not a criminal or troublesome (which you could not know unless you were stalking the tenant) would that still have been an issue? It is illegal to even inspect someone elses mail let alone take photos. Heck my oldest is married for several years now and she occasional will authorize her deliveries to my address because it is more convenient at times. My sister came to visit one thanksgiving and decided she enjoyed being around family so much so she stayed until after New Years before she returned to her own place. People do not stop having normal lives just because they are at a disadvantage.
Why are you overly involved in how people are living just because they are at a financial disadvantage? Does that make them beneath you in your eyes?
I know, I know, the well you have to protect your property excuse. If something arises and you are called, yes by all means check it out.
But is the call coming from other tenants or neighbors who also stalk these people every day looking for something to complain about simply because they are not in your acceptable financial bracket?
I am in California and every type of tenant you described can be found IN JUST ABOUT every eight hundred thousand to three million dollar+ home. Let's not even talk about the second generation worthless trust fund bratz who destroy, break laws, help the drug industry and are more likely to always be involved in something messy but get a pass because of some wealthy parent. But the people who rent to them just become angry, take their loses or what they can recoup, and rent to another one. I have not seen any better or worse tenants who recieve assistance to those who do not.
Thank you for your comments. I must not have done well portraying what I intended. I have no judgment on how people live their lives unless it affects my home or my business somehow. It's not up to me who loses a voucher. I definitely don't have any God complex. You know landlords aren't even allowed at the hearings? I can offer information though to Section 8 offices for them to make the decisions if a tenant damages my home or abuses my business. I had a woman call incessantly screaming explicatives to my staff. I didn't wish her on my worst enemy. She deserved housing though. I shared one of the voicemail messages with her caseworker. The caseworker did with it as she wished. What I hope is the caseworker helped her get mental help. She might have been off her meds. I don't know. Not my business. But it affected my staff.
About the mail. A caseworker told me once that mailmen are often the ones who get people off their vouchers. I would never touch anyone's mail. But the mail carriers get angry knowing there is someone extra living there and the mail carrier is aware that government money is paying rent there. Section 8 has a way too of knowing if felons are getting mail at the address.
I don't like to rewatch my videos. I'm very critical of myself. But I don't recall a boyfriend coming around too much or how I would ever know that. When doing repairs, it's obvious though. But we have never cared about the extra guy there. Other landlords find that a hard pill to swallow though and they are all over it, I've heard. Maybe that was the reference. The voucher holder isn't allowed to have extra people live with them. It is frustrating too when the extra people do more damage than good. We had one tenant whose drug dealer boyfriend would be in and out of jail. We knew he was back in jail when our front door was replaced with a new front door. The neighbors told us the police raided and slammed through our door. But our tenant was good and she replaced the door. He was the kids father. We didn't intrude on any of that. We could have though. But that would be a God complex of deciding how she should live her life. The neighbors probably wished we had done something due to the extra traffic his drug dealing caused. They never told us though.
What is an acceptable financial bracket? I've never dealt with the silver spoon kids. I'll take my Section 8 tenants all day long. I prefer them. I admire most of them. Most of them are single moms holding down the fort quite well. It's incredibly gratifying seeing them put themselves through school and get skilled jobs. It's also gratifying knowing I'm moving them into our well maintained home where they will enjoy a professional respectful relationship with us.
Maybe I should do a part two of that video to express what's actually in my heart. My intention was informational. People worry they can never get rid of a bad tenant. Or they worry that people are on Section 8 for life when there are actually ways for the bad ones to be removed. It's incredibly rare though. People with multiple evictions and felonies are still on Section 8. But then you get the whole story of the felony or the eviction and maybe there were good reasons that weren't the tenant's fault. Hard to know.
@@MoniqueBurnsNo, you did an excellent job showing your handdrawn rainbow with a pot of hell at the end of it. Someday,whe on your deathbed, you may have massive, huge regrets. But by then, it will be too late. You're supposed to love your neighbor, unless you're muslim then youre supposed to convert them by fire if necessary. Regardless, I see a stupid woman trying desperately to make a big name for herself. I would NEVER live in Detroit or even in that trash state. But I hope your tenants show these videos to their legal aid attorney next time you break the law and then end up owning you, your business, your client's house. RECKLESS INDIFFERENCE.
very well said its her thinking there beneath her how to remove them
Sec8 tenants meaning
" minorities",or the working class; the expendables.
Harsh! I do not look at people in that way. My uncle was disabled and always on some sort of public assistance. He needed it. He worked too but he needed the help. I remember one time he found out a welfare dentist was charging the government for more dental care than my uncle was receiving. My uncle turned him in. He taught me that people abusing the system make it harder for people who the system is meant for. My uncle had the least material wealth and physical abilities but I have never met anyone as happy or kind as he was. No one is expendable!
Jeez, Detroit is gloomy..... how does anyone stay happy in such a sky like that????
Where are you? We have lots of green and lots of fresh water.
What about section 8 tenants who drive through neighbor's yard, loud music, trespassing etc..." I'm literally hearing loud music now"!
Slum tenants are slum tenants regardless if they have Section 8. The landlord of that tenant could have increased the chances of avoiding renting to that kind of person had the landlord visited them at their previous property before renting to them. I'm doing a "home visit" tomorrow actually. If there is anything "slum" about her, we don't rent to her. I was totally up front too about it. "I'm coming to see how you live. How you live there will be how you live here." Most of them say, "Oh, really? Well, that's cool. Come over. I'll show you all the stuff my previous slumlord won't fix while you're here." Others get suspicious and I say BUH-BYE. Next!
I just rented one apt to a section 8 voucher holder and the first day she started having problems with the HOA rules. She is a pregnant single mother of 3 children and sect 8 paid her total rent. She purchase 2 parking decals arguing that she used both cars. I found out that her boyfriend is living there and he is being prosecuted by the police . All neighbors are mad at me for renting to this lady who is also having loud parties and living her parking space full oil that is leaking from her car. I. Needed to pay someone to clean her parking spot in order not to par a penalty. Later on the HOA fined me for $100.00 because she and her guest had a BBQ in the balcony which is prohibited in that condo.Her baby is due next month and the lease will end next year in January 22. According to the neighbors her boyfriend was arrested at the complex but it seems that is living there again. I am afraid that if I tell her that I will not renew the lease they will not go out and stay free 3 months that is the time an eviction is enforced. I am afraid of her boyfriend who is a felon and already damaged the bathroom door during a fight with my tenant. I do not know what to do. My property is located in Miami Florida.
@@Claudette68 you may have to weigh how much youre willing 2 loose now or keep them " in which they know that too many landlord's do just that" tough spot. As for me I'm willing to get rid of them. Because it won't get any better. And this Govt is working fast to enact pro tenant laws. In which most states will make it very hard to get rid of bad tenants Lucky for u you're in FL.
What can be done of tenants who are always drinking and have loud parties. Can they be reported to the government program of section 8. Because of disturbing the peace.
God has a special place for u
I assume you mean heaven? Because I help deserving people get on Section 8 by encouraging landlords to not blindly put up with thieves and scammers.
Not everyone on section 8 are bad people or use drugs and alcohol some actually need the help or there disabled were section 8 is useful because ssi and social security were without it they will be homeless
@@jamesevens6980 I’m grateful you are clarifying that for those who have blanket negative misconceptions about Section 8 voucher holders. I talk with voucher holders daily and there are plenty of decent people with legitimate needs.
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@@MoniqueBurns exactly it’s people like this that are making families with children the elderly and disabled homeless.this is wrong and things like this should be illegal
Well here's a simple solution: Don't rent to the lower classes. Statistically, they cause damage to way greater a degree, than the higher classes. So, if it means saying piss on Section 8, then so be it. I'm in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, where many landlords won't rent to Native Indians. The reason why, is because statistically, they are infamous for causing damage, etc. Admittedly, it's technically discrimination, but the statistics will bear that out. I've known owners who, as soon as they realize it's a Native Indian person calling about a place, will either immediately hang up on them, or lie, saying that the place is taken. I know I'll get a flurry of hate comments from all the bleeding heart liberal types, but reality is what it is (though most are loath to state it).
I have a Section 8 property that the guy moved out and stole the appliances and AC units is there a way I could get him kicked off of Section 8?
Send the police report to their Section 8 office. You'll never know if they did anything with it.
The lady at Section 8 has been extremely rude towards my husband and I so we decided to go around and buy all the Section 8 properties in town that we could get ahold of and now in the process of taking them off a Section 8 until they fired this lady.
@@matthewrehkemper128Oh snap, hopefully she doesn't sue you for costing her a job. Damages are highest for loss of employment and housing.
retaliatory landlord need to be held accountable also it works both ways less not left have integrity and fairness and not have favoritism it works both ways thank you for sharing your video...
It's actually really hard as a landlord to not have favorites. I have favorties of course, but I have to treat everyone the same; same late fees, same notice of evictions sent on the same days, etc.
Awesome video
At least someone thinks so! Thanks for not telling me I'm going to hell.
@@MoniqueBurnsNo, you're definitely going there unless you delete this worthless, outdated, discriminatory video today.
I literally had no idea what I was doing as a landlord after watching this. I'm currently in a world of crap going through a pre eviction.
This is sad...
Thanks for the video.
Sorry to hear you’re going through troubles. You can email me if you want to share more details. Monique@greatdaypm.com
I know there's a lot of dummies that work for section 8 that a dummies and because a lot of these landlords they don't care about a lot of tenants and they don't well I live in New York City and they are dirty in New York apartments buildings I think it's time for me to move and go a different way
There are dummies and dirty people everywhere, right? And nice and good and intelligent and clean people too. I'd say more of the latter in my experience.
It's a strange feeling to watch her talk about these people with zero compassion. I've seen some landlords like this before. I understand it's all about the money, but this puts such a knot in my stomach. Maybe this is what owning property and making tons of money does to people, or maybe they've become so callous because of how tenants treat their properties and homes. Either way I would never want to become this. I just started watching because my dad opened up an RV park, and I'm trying to learn how tenants and landlords communicate and operate. Whether it be homes or RV slots. I hope I never become this.
I don’t have compassion for those who scam the system. There are plenty of people who really need assistance who aren’t getting any. I talk to them every day. And I wish more landlords would do what’s possible to remove the people violating the rules. It’s not all about the money for me. It’s about doing the right thing. I’ve taken plenty of financial hits to do the most right by people. I wish you well in your RV park.
Business is business!!! This lady in our house has FIVE MONTHS she is a damn nuisance!!!!! Our other house we renting out had over 200 inquiries on Zillow rentals. Good luck to her finding a new rental in 2022!!! Thanks for the GREAT VIDEO
@@MoniqueBurns Mini blinds were so cheap, the wind tore them up🤔
Only a person that hasn’t been burned by an unwanted tenant would defend a section 8 tenant. Ultimately a property owner should have a say so when they’ve had enough of a particular tenant.
@@mind.your.own.beeswax5416Racist liar! P.S. I defend renters ALL THE DAMN TIME, NEVER Been burned by ANYONE except for Diablita that happens to be a slumlady. (Oxymoron, I know)!
Why do people constantly target section 8 tenants like regular tenants are always so great. From what I have seen the majority of landlords that don't like section 8 are the ones that want to do illegal activities and be slumlords because they don't want to fix anything yet overcharge. I have come across people who only want section 8 tenants because their buildings are kept up better that way and anyone that doesn't follow the rules are kicked out. You are just targeting people
Right! I target Section 8 tenants for the reasons you state. They are my favorite. Sometimes though I have gotten bad apples. It’s the bad ones I’m referring to on this video. Same with my cash paying tenants too. There are bad apples everywhere! The more bad ones get off Section 8, then the more room there is for good ones.
@@MoniqueBurns your headline specifically states section 8 however. If it were about all clients you wouldn't have specifically mentioned section 8 holders
@@cosima9586 There is a different process when removing someone with Section 8. Extra steps.
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@newytuser24 Call all you want but that shit been disconnected bruh, I can only present facts can't make your brain do the work to believe it.
She said SECTION 8 for Dummies...Broad just dont be know landlord for section 8 people at all
I’m not sure what you mean. Are you saying I said something incorrect? I rent to 99% HCV holders. I like my Section 8 renters.
Rule #1 If you're just starting off. Don't rent 2 sec. 8. #2. Check the state laws on tenant/ landlord's. Tenant friendly don't do it. #3. Join a landlord assoc.
#4. Don't rely on present landlord's reason. There's a reason why that tenants leaving, and that landlord wants to get rid of them.
#5 credit check, evictions read like a book! #6. Don't trust the sob story, or a veteran. A veteran has preferred protections
Remember they're whats called professional tenants, judgement proof. And they threw their lives away and don't care about you once you hand over the keys #7 sec. 8 is their advocacy group their job is to tell you all the good n tug on your emotions. They won't tell u someone's on drugs, family member will move in been arrested
#9 Lastly most sec. 8 rulebreakers rarely loose their vouchers they just move them onto the next emotionally charged landlord that seeks to better themselves & their fellow human being
Great tips! You seem to have experience.
@@MoniqueBurns I got the experience really fast when I gave one a 2nd chance. And right after he knew we had accepted him, thats when the real hustler came out. Because he was a repeat offender. Knowing these agencies never kick someone out of the program because they're a for profit business. In which they get paid to get n keep repeat offenders. And those types of tenants know the game. And are often judgement proof. So they have nothing to loose. Even when you win a case against them. So with today's gov't. Catering "rent for free and no evictions" don't bother you'll be sorry.
@@Blah-blah-sure That makes sense that the S8 offices are for profit. It doesn’t give them motivation to remove people from the system. I’ve had good S8 tenants too though. Most of them have been good and drama free. I wish there were more oversight from HUD so deserving people get vouchers vs the scammer ones though. It’s all run like a government though instead of private business because it IS government. I’ve always been self employed. No patience or tolerance for mediocrity or injustice!
@@MoniqueBurns Thank you. Thats how I like to business as well. Even though CZcams gives us this platform. I really can't go into details of what my experiences still are having this "professional tenant" and yes even though 1's working can beat u. I'd rather take that chance. Read your other post visiting a prospective tenant. Absolutely. As for me I'll even go to your workplace. Because I've had enough of all these rights that provide for bad tenants to beat u.
Oh, you took this right out of my head. I say the same thing , over and over again! Veterans get good benefits because I am one, that how I know! Iam not rich but no section 8. Singles don't get that anyway. Kids are a mealtimes. Section 8 kids are the greatest jerks or idiots I have ever seen. They are Nightclub products.
After watching this : Good information. I would like to email u and ask a few questions to ask. Hello from sunny southern California. Mackey Mouse says hello
Monique@greatdaypm.com. I hope we've already connected! I love California!
Now for the bad tenants yes they need to be held accountable and I agree
I'm glad you agree. The corrupt ones off the program make room for the people doing the right thing who have legitimate financial needs.
Professional landlord here. I have a much better way of getting rid of section 8 tenants. Just don't accept section 8 at all to begin with. It's about time we all stop feeding the bear.
Hah! Some cities don't give us a choice. They think they can tell us we MUST rent to Section 8 applicants. I think the "bear" these days is the courts who keep extending evictions thinking they're helping tenants. Quite the opposite. It's forced me to raise rents and the investors who buy my houses all want Section 8 tenants so they have less risk of evictions. Pros and cons everywhere. Thanks for watching my video.
@@MoniqueBurns True-and at this very moment which I post this: In California-[and perhaps the entire U.S.A.-since Section 8 is a "federal" program]-the law says that it is illegal-[in most circumstances?]-to discriminate among potential renters **solely** on the basis of having a Section 8 voucher.
Profession ahole FIFY.
Thank you for sharing ❤️
You do have good landlords and Retaliatory landlord so do a video on that also...there are some corrupt man Laura's out here at taking advantage of people and they need to be off of the program and not receiving this cash in their pocket can no way
I have seen a lot of corrupt landlords too!
Some people in section 8 in my area make up to 65k a year but they quit their jobs near the end of the section 8 so they can reapply. The system is being used and abused by so many all the while when people who need section 8 cant get it.
Yep! My video today is about how to get rid of the ones who trash houses. It's frustrating.
That will bite them in the ass eventually. There are only so many good jobs out there, they quit enough companies that provide them and they will not get another one. Also, I wish them good luck getting unemployment benefits doing that (they won't).
This is part of what is wrong with the world... People so greedy. I would be embarrassed and ashamed to get on CZcams and announce to the world what kind of a person I was like you have. Shame on you.
I am a person of integrity who does not appreciate people misusing government money when there are so many people out there who need Section 8. Shame on everyone who allows bad people to get away with bad behavior.
@@MoniqueBurns assumptions and over generalizations do not equal facts. This is really sad. You should rename your channel “Karen’s Privileged Real Estate”
@@ivispark3780 i was about to say something
@@MoniqueBurns people like you bern entitked for 400years. You think all of what is on earth will last? Persons like just make an excuse to be hateful, so you put all Sec 8 in a box. Most of them kerp their places nice , rent,utilities paid dont deal drugs, and some middle age or younger struggle with chronic issue.
What the heck are you talking about? She is saying that the scammers and criminal tenants are bad. If someone is getting beaten up by their boyfriend or husband, then they need to get on their big boy pants, and get an order of protection. She is providing housing. She is not her social worker, or his probation officer. I would call 911 if I heard a conflict but third party situations are very dangerous.
U lying lying every tenant, not like that
Landlord, don't do they job
Does Detriot still look like a 3rd world country? I haven't been to Michigan in 11 years.
Not at all. The downtown has come back. It's quite vibrant. The neighborhoods are getting better all the time. When Detroit had a reduction in population, several of the houses fell in disrepair. Bit by bit those houses have been torn down (more to go) and the land is sometimes turned into orchards or neighborhood gardens. You wouldn't recognize Detroit anymore.
All I do is call the police on the section 8 tenant rapper son for his criminal activities and they're gone
Well, there you go! Felons aren't allowed to live with voucher holders.
Wrongful arrest, constructive eviction, malicious prosecution. A combination of the three can equal a pro bono attorney getting a judge to take owners' houses away and GIVE THEM to their tenants!
@@DarkKnightBruce Is it really malicious prosecution? Seems like a high bar to convince a jury to that level. Criminals don't change their spots, so probably easy to get police to do what they do.