"What Overdrive Should I Buy?" (answering my most asked question)
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Finding the right overdrive can be overwhelming, especially to a new guitar player, but there is a way. Today we're going to talk about some of the types of overdrives, what they do, and how to find the best one for your rig.
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Let’s all send Rhett a bunch of tube screamers. Let’s build his collection! 😂
Haha Rhett doesn’t like tube screamers? Lets send him every single version that’s ever been made
Josh Scott, plz send Rhett all the screamers 😅
all clones of tube screamers!! hahha
I got a modded one called the Lube Dreamer!! How do I send
Or send me one? I don't have one yet
Awesome video!! I always recommend to buy a Ibanez TS9 Classic!
magic green box!
It's funny cuz I don't really like the tube screamer either but I still have one on my board cuz I always get compliments from it. People come up to me after a rehearsal and ask what I used for my lead tone. Just a tube screamer style
I’ve seen your videos recommending the TS9 Classic! 😉
@@IndyRockStar no, they are not. It always depends what you want to achieve. If you want a replacement for your dirty channel, TS are definitly not the best sounding pedals. If you use them as a boost, they are awesome.
@@IndyRockStar Rhett is useing it exactly wrong here ... as distortion/overdrive in a clean channel. For that it's the wrong pedal. Get a Marshall at breakup, Les Paul bridge pickup and a little boost from a tube screamer ... it's THE sound we heard on so many records.
The Tube Screamer actually sounds great with everything in your setup when recorded...😄
I think it was the best sound of them🤔
I love the TS! If you aint got it, go and buy it right now! Can't quite agree with your statement though, I belive he uses it a vit wrong and with to little top end. Still cool vid though.
Tube screamers are my favorite. I own the bonsai by jhs which has them
Tube Screamer really shines when used to boost a crunchy amp, with Drive almost zero and Level almost full. I had a great heavy sound with an 808 into a Fender Deluxe Reverb (volume on 7, Normal channel) and a Les Paul. If you want something more "mild" you can use a Boss SD-1. With a Marshall style amp, the sound is more Judas Priest with a TS and more Ratt with the SD-1, to give you a reference.
I have used both the TS-9 and SD-1 with both my Marshalls and Mesas. Both pedals are top choices for me, but currently I am using the SD-1. Classic and reliable.
Yes, yes, yes, and yes.
@@darko714 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and yes, yes, yesyes!
I was going to say the same thing. When I first started using a TS9 I ran mine close to how Rhett had his set in the first sound clip with way more gain than I use it for now. Then I watched an interview on Philip Sayce and he was basically Level at 3 oclock and drive at 9 oclock or less with tone to taste. Works pretty well in my situation as well so that's how I use it now.
Yup that's the way I use it as well. Works great.
Rhett, This was one of the most useful, well presented, & thus, best rock guitar vids to have ever been placed on the internet or promulgated anywhere. Despite you having nearly an impossible task to surpass this vid, pls, keep it up. You did well, quite well. Richard
I literally have the same 3 types of pedals on my board. They stack really well together. All the overdrive I need. Thanks for sharing.
IMHO this was probably the best video for explaining the various overdrive pedals. Well done. 👍🏼 👍🏼
I always used a Tube Screamer as a lead boost. Turn up the dirt a little, turn up the volume enough to get the boost, and then solo to your heart's content.
Amazing, me too!
I recommend an EQ pedal in your chain. I currently use the Boss EQ-200 that has 4 presets. The EQ pedal will make any OD pedal usable, and sound great. Try it! 😀
If you can't get your amp to overdrive how you want with an EQ (using as a boost), then an overdrive isn't going to solve your tone quest.
Agree 100%
I have an EQ pedal in the FX loop, set to filter out the 1K freq. Whatever overdrive I put in front of the amp it sounds the same. The EQ effect is brutal.
If the Boss EQ-200 was available 20 years ago I (most of us?) would have saved a lot of money on amps and pedals on the quest for the ultimate tone. It is a tone sorcerer and all pedals/amps I´ve tried so far mingle perfectly with the EQ-200. As for the video, Rhett is an excellent infortainer and musician.
#1 most helpful video on overdrive pedals. Saved me hours of research!
Great video! Really appreciate learning about the different distortion pedal types. Thanks.
l remember buying a brand new fender supertwin reverb and a mxr dist+ and a superfuzz in the mid 70s. That was a good day.
Good video. Good explanation of different overdrives. You were pretty fair to tube screamers giving a good explanation of why someone would want to use one.
The BEST advice/guide to buying overdrives! Excellent video! The only thing I’d add would be to try out the pedal in a band setting, if at all possible, before you make up your mind on whether the drive is for you.
Thanks Rhett for a great explanation. This video explained a lot.
Thanks Rhett I never get tired of overdrive videos. I've been into Dual drives the last year or so and find them useful, but tweaking them can be challenging. My list so far D & M drive, Truetone VS -XO, KOT Duellist , Analogman King of tone. Now I'm working with single drives and stacking them, just got a Souse Black box. Cool pedal and another rabbit hole.
Boss OD-2 is the only one i've ever needed. Had mine since 1987, and it works like new
i have that one too it's really good
@@marijnvanriet3857 it really is. I like the fact that it has two channels, one like a pre-amp gain, and the other for a more saturated & driven overdrive. Never needed anything more
I love mine too but I wish it had a bit more level. With no gain and full level it's only just above unity haha
@@danec1384 ya, that's more of a SD2 Dual Overdrive. Separate lead channel, & distortion-crunch-fuzz rhythm channel --rock on
Those Boss ODs sound good, and are super cheap.
Love your channel, Rhett!
I have a very similar taste in overdrive pedals as you do Rhett , transparent overdrive has become something that really fits with my playing style and they tend to be a bit more dynamic compared to a TS. My new overdrive pedal the Nobles ODR1 Mini is a pedal I just added to my board and absolutely love . It stacks well with a boost pedal in front of it and it also sounds great going into another overdrive pedal for already beefy solo tone ( my guitars are all single coils ) I do really like the Morning Glory as well . This topic never gets old only we do LOL.......Cheers!
Interesting video! The first test between Morning Glory and Tubescreamer was very revealing. I can see a usage for both drives. But finally I understand thanks Rhett.
Rhett, great breakdown man ! Thank you 🙏
Rhett, thank you for the education on this subject... it really helps, umm, clear things up for me.
This my favourite channel, keep going Rhett
My takeaway: like you said, eff around with them until you’re getting something you like. I’m relatively new to the pedal game. I bought an OCD and a Tube Screamer to work with my Strat and Orange. Really a great diversity of sounds available with this combination. And don’t forget that the Orange has its own natural distortion channel which is awesome for grunge and metal - especially when I play an Epi Les Paul with it.
Well presented, appreciate the different examples/combinations.👍
There's a reason the Tubescreamer was used by SRV to Santana. It's iconic and sounds great when dialed in correctly.
I played along with you thru my v40 deluxe. Changed pedals and amp settings as you did, and got some good sounds. Great video, and I agree. You can’t know what you like until you try it
The Boss DS-1 is a very versatile pedal, especially when you know how to dial it in properly for your guitar and the type of pickups it has. People tend to want to crank overdrives to 10, and that’s not usually going to get the best sound profile on ANY pedal! The DS-1 is on most professional guitarists boards for a reason, and I tend to believe it’s because of the versatility. You can use it with a very gentle bump to give your guitar a tad of kick, or you can go all in and make your guitar growl without totally distorting your guitar’s underlying tone characteristics (maybe just a bit of color added, depending on your dialed settings on the pedal and the knob/s on your guitar.
Plus, the DS-1 and most other Boss pedals don’t cost a ton of money even when they’re brand new. I’ve seen amazing priced used ones in nearly pristine condition without the original box/paperwork on eBay for $30-$50c. Always be careful that it’s not a bootleg (always look at the seller history and reviews), but some home guitarists who don’t like some of the pedals they buy stuff them in a closet or they sit on a shelf for a while, which is why they are in like new condition. Those sellers are trying to make a quick few bucks and pass the savings and a pedal in great condition along to someone else who may enjoy using it.
I think that’s what is modeled on my Boss Katana. But with fewer settings options. Works nice with my Les Paul Studio for clean boost.
Yes DS1 is probably the most versatile pedal given you know how to use it. It's good enough for Satch, Steve vai and George Lynch so they must be doing something right.
Good run through of the various types of overdrives.
I love the GEAR TALK WITH RHETT and the vintera tele 😍 More clips of you noodling please so I can learn new riffs!
I'm one of those rare birds that started playing/and gigging before there were 'pedals'!! The first one I bought was a BOSS BD, and still use it today! I have only added a verb, as one of my heads does not have verb, a comp_90, a tuner (Korg) and a BOSS Acoustic simulator. The last one for more of a boost (it was a wife present 8) I do have 7 speaker cabs, with different combos of Celestian speakers. What I'm looking at now is a 5w supra amp, to plug into the effects loop of my main head and bypass its preamp stage. We'll see how that goes, but my BOSS BD is still the workhorse. I get all the tones I use from that. JMHO --gary
I started when there were pedals but never bothered with an overdrive pedal as, well, I used the channels on the amp. Kinda neanderthal for the modern day I imagine. I think these days there are too many pedals to choose from and it's really a tyranny of choice. Music shops back then would just have Boss pedals and some cheaper crappy ones and maybe a Cry Baby Wah pedal. Now there must be 10s of thousands on the market and more every day. Seeing as I rarely gig these days, all I use at home is a cheap mosky klon clone and a Bluesbreaker 2 pedal. I guess I'm not a real modern guitar player type - I just play the guitar and occasionally twiddle a knob on the guitar, amp or pedals. In a lot of ways things are brilliant for guitarists these days but also really confusing with so much conflicting advice and a desire for so much tech between you and your amp. I could never have handled (or afforded) all the alcohol and drugs with all that complexity with the pedalboard set ups back on the crap venue circuit in my day. Still it was fun and I managed to live through it all to be able to enjoy the new age of guitar gear and youtube vidz. Even know how to fix guitars these days after years of abusing and destroying them. Ah well, we all have to grow up eventually I guess :)
Fair points. I do like the new, or Nu tube screamer. Mostly as you can blend in the gain levels, and making it a transparent drive.
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I just gotta say you will definitely reach that goal of 1M SUBS honestly I believe you’ll blow that out of the water by triple at least. Mark my words. This is definitely one of my favorite channels for information! And that’s saying something because there’s no shortage of channels to turn to. Keep it up man. -Dustin
I agree with your whole "you have to try it" approach. It varies so much based on your guitar/amp, that's the only way to know for sure. I ended up buying/trying/selling probably 20 overdrives over the last 18 months before settling on a Barber Gain Changer SR (fairly transparent) and Barber Direct Drive (Marhall-esque) with a Tubescreamer Mini boosting out front. I can get just about any drive sound I want out of those 3 pedals. Thing is ... out of the 20 or so drives I tried, most could have easily been "good enough" as a primary drive. But what fun is that? The only ones I actually disliked were the Wampler Tumnus / MXR Sugar Drive which are both Klon clones, and the Boss SD1. The MXR Timmy and Timmy v3 were both really, really good -- I just preferred the Gain Changer and they fill a similar role. Of course, if I ever change amps or get another to run in stereo, then I might need to revisit. Maybe I should've kept them...
Best explanation of Overdrive, ever!
This totally explains why I’ve been unhappy with my guitar sound lately. I think you also sealed the deal on a purchase of the morning glory for me. Thank you for this video.
Nice job Rhett. Hey, hopefully you're getting plenty of footage of the studio construction. Really looking forward to some of those videos coming...
Wow! No garbage overdrive tones in your video! This is a great demo of what awesome tones that can be had by what you are demonstrating. I own a bunch of overdrive pedals, but my most favorite go-to overdrive pedal will always be my Boss Super Overdrive.
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Thank you Rhett. Very informative. I like the Tube Screamer, and I also like the Blues Driver from Boss. I'm not gigging or anything and I just got my self a Fender Lacquered Blues Jr. Great amp, and sounds great with the Screamer and the Blues Jr. Thank you again brother.
I have three, all Greers. 1. Lightspeed (Transparent/Organic) 2. The Southland (Harmonic) 3. Super Cobra (Heavy Overdrive) all running through my Twin . Cream of the crop. All that being said, I get the best tone through my AXE FX III running through Yamaha Studio Monitors.
I need a tube screamer for my LesPaul Special I with P90s. It is crying out for it. I love the rip of a tube screamer with P90s. And an octave pedal too. On Bad Penny Rory Gallagher used a Tube Screamer and an Octave Pedal. I think he used it on Moonchild too. He would use the AC 30 mic to a Marshall Stack. He Frank Marino and Robin Trower had similar gear but such distinctive sounds. Take three ballads and listen to the pinch harmonics and the touches each make: Rory Gallagher on : A Million Miles Away, Robin Trower on Daydream, and Frank Marino/ Mahogany Rush: Moonlight Lady. So ethereal but such talent and similar gear.and time frame.
Awesome vid Rhett!
One thing I have a different view on is how useful forums and the net in general are for finding out what musicians used for their overdriven sound. There is of course some good info out there but I've rarely seen the actual musicians talk about this. On forums I have tended to come across people giving their own opinions which is then disputed by other forumites.
Not dismissing the entire concept of googling these things of course, but I've found that there are perhaps too many people conflating their opinions with fact.
Keep up the great work sir!
Rhett, thank you for validating what I've felt over the course of 15 years with a TS-9 on my pedalboard. Its use was limited to me hitting it and going, "ah, nevermind" and clicking it off. But yet, decades of everyone saying they were the greatest pedal ever had me thinking maybe my ears were deceiving me. I finally sold it on Reverb, and someone snatched it within 24 hours. I felt like I had been freed.
Long time viewer, and have just subscribed!! Great channel!!
Glad to see you playing the Pearl!
Before watching my first thought is that my two overdrive pedals have different settings depending on which guitar I’m using. If I just plug in another guitar without tweaking settings on the pedal and amp it’ll likely sound not so great. I think a lot of people starting out with pedals, and who are likely to watch this video might get discouraged that a certain pedal doesn’t meet expectations at first. I think it’s good to just get one and live with it for a while to begin to figure out what you like, and the take a leap to another pedal that you’ve researched and you’re a step closer to the sound you want. Start cheap and work your way up to avoid buyers remorse
I’ve got an older tube screamer like pedal and a newer klone and I feel like the only other thing needed in that class of pedals would be a clean boost. Don’t even really need a distortion and a fuzz sound is attainable by combining the two pedals.
Nobels ODR-1, IMHO, is one of the best ODs out there, especially at its price point.
Good info Rhett
I love how subjective these things get! With your more distorted amp I would probably go for a clean boost. Love the content Rhett, keep it up!
This is video I needed. By 3:05 I knew it's the transparent overdrive that I'm looking for, for me. Thank you! ✌️
Brilliant video as always. Love these styles of comparison, keep this up please. Delay pedal next?
Wow such a great break down of overdrives
We definitely lean towards similar sounds/overdrives. There was really only one pedal in the TS vein that I actually did like, and that was the PedalworX Tour Pro Toggle. It had bass roll off which was good for getting rid of the mud, and a much gentler mid boost, keeping most of the top end. It also had a 3 position toggle to control the amount of compression. I bought 2, one for my practice board, and one for my large gigging board. Still have them both after 20 years (one very early production model, one much later) and are my "go to" when I need something "TS-ish" without giving up my sound.
I’m a beginner/ intermediate and I have a friend ( yes only 1) and he gigs and I asked him about his pedals and he has 3 overdrive and he tried to explain it to me but I didn’t quite get it. This video is exactly what I need.
I bought the Morning Glory because of your channel. It's everything you said it would be. But--I'm keeping my Tube Screamer on my board because it has a killer vintage tone. I switch between the two drives depending on the song and the mix.
I love clean blend nonTS style overdrive pedals like the ehx hot wax. I love the options it's like having a hot tubes and a crayon on one pedal and I can dial the blend of the overdrive way back to get a fuller note sound. It works wonders into my quilter super block US or UK. On one of your other videos I was recommended the hot tubes and I loved that pedal and got it in a double pedal. Very satisfied with my overdrive tone on all guitars in any live or recorded setting
I stack the JHS Angry Charlie into the Morning Glory with my amp set clean. I had them the other way around for a while, but I like how it sounds when the AC has both the distortion up around half and is acting as a boost before the MG more.
I’ll subscribe after Rhett changes his mind about tube screamers.
The Nobles ODR-1 is the go to pedal in this category.
The EQD plumes is the best Tubescreamer style OD I’ve tried. Awesome pedal.
I ran through a ton of OD's, from boutique to big brands. I've settled on the Greer Lightspeed for about 2 years now and can't ever see myself getting rid of it. It's just perfect. My Boss OD-3 also beat pretty much every boutique and expensive pedal I had as well. Classic for a reason.
This confirmed my purchase of the light speed! Bukovac loves it, too, so it must be good!
Thanks - finally pushed me to get the Morning Glory.
I bought the Earthquaker Devices "Plumes". Plumes® is a unique, all-analog approach to a classic tube-like overdrive circuit offering 3 different clipping voices, loads of headroom and almost three-dimensional clarity that will push your amp over the edge. The reimagined tone control is finely tuned to sculpt low end, clear top end, and focus midrange with blooming sustain. .Although the Acapulco Gold distortion pedal by Earthquaker is my favorite!!!
Great video, I've experimented & nailed it.! TC Electronic Cinders pedal. Transparent threw my VOX AC 50 Cambridge amp.
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Absolutely love my Soul Food 🤘🏻 paired with a comp that has boost it is magic ✨
11:50 “torn it up” lol!😂 wurdz is hard!! Love the video and channel your the best Rhett!
Ever since I discovered the Rock Your Repaired Amp Klon Klone and put it on my board, it's never turned off! The combination of it with a good 2 channel tube amp is magic!
I recently discovered a really cool combination. Rolling off the volume on your guitar, going into a fuzz and then going into a klon. I’ve gotten some awesome results from that
That can be fun with other allegedly “transparent” overdrives too!
Great video.
For years I used to use TubeScreamer pedals, right from the TS-5 to the UE300. Which I come back to over and over again. The BluesBreaker mk2 has featured on my board, often next to the UE-300. But currently have a TC mojo mojo.
In the video I liked all the pedals but the morning glory only seemed to come into its own with the Gibson and humbuckers. I did quite like the character the Klon-clone gave to both single coil pickups and humbuckers as well as both Fender style amps and Marshall-esque hi gain amp.
I’ve not gone down the Klon route as yet. And can see it as an option.
Great video! I've been playing for about 30years, but just over the past few have I actually started to practice more of the guitar "fundamentals" and truly attempt learning about the instrument and music. I have a Gibson Les Paul Studio and Marshall 2x12 valve and Fender '64 Vibroverb 2/x10 reissue that I use. I didn't know this about distortion pedals, and this info will give me some good knowledge base to experiment with.
Great topic, Rhett. My biggest complaint with OD pedals is most that I’ve tried amount to being a treble booster. That might be great for a guitar tone that can cut thru a loud drum kit while gigging. But at the house, it totally ruins the toned I like to hear (scooped kids with a slightly bumped up low end). Thanks for posting this.
I totally agree with what Rhett said about using different types of overdrives with different types of guitars and amps. When using the Fender Bassman or Hot Rod Deluxe, I use a Tube Screamer because I think the mid bump from it sounds good with the inherently mid-scooped Fender amps sound. But when I us the Vox AC30, I defintly don't like the Tube Screamer because the two together sounds like way too much midrange. With that I'll use a Zen drive.
I also like to run an amp clean and use multiple overdrive pedals in front of it for different amounts of gain. I think my favorite setup right now is the Vox AC30 with a Timmy overdrive, Zen overdrive and a clean boost in front of it. I run the amp just barely before the edge of break and have the pedals set so that the Timmy by itself is a light gain sound, the Zen by itself is a medium gain sound, and both together is a heavy gain sound. And the clean is for a solo boost/push the amp into a little more breakup.
I think the part of OD pedals giving the sound on saturated power tubes needed a mention. You won’t sound like Frusciante unless the amp is dimed and that’s the basis of the clean sound. Then he adds in those boss pedals and MXR fuzz. Good video! Try things!
Thank Rhett for this!
For me, the best is the fulltone OCD with de Archer (stacked) into a vintage AC30.
love my OCD.
@@jamespatrick3462 What voltage do you use? 9, 12 or 18 volts?
A simple, old fuzz face gives me a bunch of flavors throughout the sweep of the guitar volume from clean to fuzz. Honestly, it's the best pedal purchase I've ever made. I found my favorite one and gave everything else away.
You did a good job simplifying a complex topic. I prefer to buy LPD pedals, since Lawrence and I are both from Arizona. I like having a pedal that was built a short drive on I-10 away. My favorite drive is the Embers. It has a great full range tone so I can use it for guitar and bass without adjusting settings
Recently picked up an electro harmonix OD glove. As far as amp in the box circuits go, this one is an absolute winner
the answer is always the metal muff for me, its a distortion pedal but has the versatility to be an OD, Distortion, and it has a top boost switch as well. Good amount of options and solid construction.
I like my Fairfield circuitry barbershop but I use most of the time my strymon deco saturation that I love !
Great video. Posting this to my guitar group.
My experience:
My rig Telecaster, Strat and a Fender tweet style tube amp.
Early me: I love pairing the Z. Wylde OD and DS1 (set with highs rolled off and the Dist light)
Currently, I'm using a Tumnus Dlx, a The Dude, and a Rat for heavier dirt.
The Z. Wylde OD smooths out the DS1.
The The Dude works great with my Tumnus Dlx of my Rat, but the Rat and Tumnus don't work as well together.
I’m loving my Wanpler Gearbox and my Nux Steel Stinger. Those 3 drives give me a lot of great tones.
I will never be moved. My first pedal was a TS, and I will never get rid of it!!! But great video as always!!
I recently modded my 808 screamer to the Keeley Mod plus.
Never was a fan of screamers, however the Keeley mod is flawless.
Thats how they should've originally been made IMO.
I got one of the modded pedals from Keeley way back when they sold the modded pedal direct . I love it .
I have a Keely modified DD-3 Digital Delay, some neat feautures.
I have a JHS Bonsai and run a TS808 as a single coil boost. While I liked the double TS Setup, I stumbled upon the Keeley mod almost by accident and it takes it to a completely different territory
@@DiogoBianchi5 Exactly. Much smoother mids and a higher low and smoother high response. Less drive when brought down, and plenty of gain when dined. And most importantly, a useable tone knob.
I have 3 different ODs for all 3 types. MXR Timmy for light gain / transparent, Wampler Tumnus for medium gain and Gtown Holy Grail (a D type) for high gain / most colored
My favorite overdrive is the EHX Hot Tubes nano which is definitely a "amp in a box" type overdrive. I love it when I play bass, it does everything from fattening the tone, farty breakup (like Grand Funk bass tone), to full on searing distortion/fuzz. It's almost always on if I'm playing rock music.
I second this. Ehx Hottubes is a total sleeper. One of the best out there and cheap
I love my EHX Tortion.
I think the best way to know if a pedal is right for you, is if possible, GIG with that pedal as much as you can. I know this puts a purchase in the “make a leap” category, but even a pedal that sounds great in the store with your guitar and amp may not sound as good or sound right for your gigs.
I was fairly indifferent about a Tube Screamer-Type pedal until… I used one at a gig with a Tele and Deluxe Reverb in a band that already had an acoustic and a Gretch. I appreciated that my rig simply sounded different so that we all found out “sonic lanes” in the band, but just as importantly, the pedal pushed the mids, and allowed my solos to project without tremendous actual increase in volume, whereas through a different pedal type, to get those solo parts to speak as clearly, would have also involved any other frequencies that would have at least more dramatically increased the perceived volume, and maybe gotten a bit more stink-eye on stage, and would have contributed to a muddier mix for the band as a whole.
Again, this couldn’t have possibly been divined from even the best in-store demo of any length of time. You have to get out there and GIG THE PEDAL! Ideally at least a few times before making a decision that a pedal is not for you.
I adore the "Embers" Overdrive from LPD - a Klon type pedal.
My Ulbrick 12axe sounds great with any guitar or amp. Really like adding another gain channel on your amp while keeping your guitars character. I use Fender and Gibson guitars and have a variety of amps.
Been a long time fan of the two vintage MIJ Boss Super Overdrive & Turbo Overdrive
I’m not a Tube Screamer fan by any means, but I’m really digging the new JHS 3 Series Screamer. It’s a lot more clear and open sounding than a typical TS pedal, imo.
Hi Rhett , me personnelly i love MXR GT-OD Overdrive.Excellent pedal.
I have found that matching specific OD pedals to specific amps works best
I think the real winner here is that guitar into that amp! What a tone! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I go back and forth and combine an Xotic SL Drive and a cheap Donner Dumbal Drive into a Marshall Orgin 20, I tend to use the Dumbal as a boost but both by themselves sound fantastic!
I agree that some OD pedals can muddy up the mix , or make the mids too strong. Through my clean Fender tube amps I really like the Nobels ODR-1 after the Boss GE-7 EQ. Together they allow a ton of shaping options for different guitars.
I’m a fan of the the treble booster (beano boost or Fulltone Ranger, depending on style I’m going for), SD-1 style OD (the original Wylde OD from MXR is my go-to) for Marshalls. For preamp style AIAB pedals, I usually find the most range and versatility in the AMT Legend Amps series pedals… running them into the effects return loop of my ‘88 Boogie MKIII yields great results. I especially like their R2 (Mesa Dual Rectifier) and F1 (Fender black face). For Fender tones, the Boss/Fender COSM pedals are great, either as a preamp, OD pedal, or, even directly into the audio interface.
For unapologetically colored boost/OD, the Chandler Limited Little Devil is a lot of fun🤘
I remember now, Rory Gallagher used the Tube Screamer and a Range Master Trebleboost with an octave pedal acting as a chorus pedal, Trower and Marino did too, once you hear that though a VOX AC mic’s to a Marshal stack it will give you chills!