Rook & Luchador Are FINISHED? The Repair Amp NERF Is Changing The Titan Meta | War Robots
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- Are the Rook and Luchador done in the meta? Since the TRA nerf I've been told by a bunch of players that the Rook and Luchador have been hit the hardest by the module nerf, and the Robots are 'done'. Well let's find out. These bots heavily rely on their 'tank capabilities' and healing from TRA. In game 1 we load up the Rook in a close game and then try out the Luchador in game 2. The Eiffel is still the clear #1 titan right now, but are the Rook and Luchador dead? 💥
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0:00 Intro
0:13 Are the Rook and Luchador Cooked?
1:26 Rook After The TRA Nerf - Game 1
10:01 Can The Luchador Survive After The Nerf - Game 2
15:48 END Wrap Up
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Rook and luch are not “dead” they’re just not invincible
I agree Bru, too many people think that if you have to use your brain to make something good then it’s dead
next patch though luchador, kid, minos, aether are all completely useless. New eiffel/UE ao ming vindicatore 1 shot all resistance reliant titans. It's basically the crisis reaper rendered all resistance robots useless scenario but now it is titan (which mean even worse, cause you can't outplay by just using another robot, can't time your phase shift active module because titan don't even have one)
True, however unless they get buffed(which is very much possible) the new weapons aren’t THAT broken. Prime fulgur and tonan did more damage even though they couldn’t bypass the reflector. Of course we don’t know how it will work with the new titan, but even with the new weapons going through reflector they will still kill slower than the flamethrowers
Yes. Exactly 😂😂😂they crying because now they have work harder for a kill lol
@@bozomontarius1291 um....back after watching a few test server runs, 1 round of 3 vendicatores on sharange takes about 80% hp of a lvl 150 aether i don't think that's balance. The range is the most concerning part, because on another vid, eiffel with 3 vendi 2 fulgurs just melt any titan and they can't fight back, the eiffel just dash back and zone them out. it's basically reaper crisis scenario all over again but this time, a luchador mid-frog and during sitting duck full on reflector takes dmg of 60% their hp. Reflector is absolutely useless and the luchador actually have to run and hide even though it is a solo, the flame gun couldn't do much because eiffel just out range And outspeed the luchador, making it significantly worse than crisis case. At this rate, the only titans relevant are rooks, newton and eiffel. Bedwyr shield can only handle 1 direction and eiffel can fly so the shield is soooo irrelevant vendicatore is just cracked.
At least the dmg is half to 80% (depends on your titan hp) but basically 2 shots almost all titan. I don't think that's balanced at all. We'll see when it hits live server but already the dmg is so crack
I'm seeing people still running Luchadors and Rooks but I already seeing more Eiffel titans than Bedwir
Bedwyrs are easily countered if a big group attacks you from multiple sides I think it better for 1v1 maybe 1v2 in my experience depending on the playstyle
I have been using rook with 3 damage controllers, and it has been very situational (i don't have avalon). Sometimes the healing from shields popping, pilot skills and battleship was enough, you just get cooked really quickly if everything is on cooldown or there is several eiffles shooting you at once. I have also found the ice weapons or flamethrowers to be really good since they can charge up your battleship quickly. The 7 seconds of impenetrable resistance from live saver turret can save your life (like the name suggests lol) I just make sure to charge it up before trying to fight a titan.
I have the Avalon mainly for the effect immunity worth it if your willing to waste the money 😂
4:22 roulette
i dont think they too cooked i think they can still survive depending on how you play it.
Titans that are dead are Newton, nodens, Sirius, aeithal, Arthur, kid, Ao Ming, memoritz, minos. They all need a buff!!
I agree but theres already an ultimate Ao Ming
1 Titan Repair Amp is still definitely good to have. The new way it works only makes you play more carefully and actually frees up another module slot. I like it.
Why are two RA instead of one better?
@@alejandropeca7515 It's not better, it just charges faster.
who ever say the luchador and the rook is crap now depend on the TRA is kind of the brainrot or something. they literally want titans dominated like the time before when everyone tried to change the titan bar quick as possible. (and that so unfair with other lower titan when they don't have ability to stack up the TRA. Luchdor, Rook, Bedwyr, effeil can just dominated)
even thought i run the TRA, i must say they're definitely no skill on their prime.
but I'm so glad they they getting neft. now everyone need skill and tactic before going to go into enemy's base and spawn skill like before. they need to plan whenever they want the TRA stack up because the defend miligation only last to 30sec.
Ur so wrong. THE WR community doesn't care about skill they buy every new meta to bully f2p players and get a lil dopamine kick out of telling themselves they're good at the game when in reality they just paid money. I got a luchador level 50 or 60 I've been upgrading it for years and I bough the repair amps which I have at level 11 rn, I didn't hold a chance against eiffel during the repair amp meta imagine now that they're nerfed. I am genuinely good and skillful believe it or not I dominate games I have full control of the beacon bar or an overwhelming 30 to 10 kill score but I always lose because I leave the game as soon as some pussy loses all his bots in the first minute because he sucks and deploys the broken unkillable eiffel with homing bullets or flamethrowers I'm so tired of throwing games I was gonna win because I know the eiffles is gonna solo us. I refuse to stay in a game im gonna lose and help some pussy pay 2 winner get a lil dopamine high thinking they actually killed anyone using their skill. It's like shenlou with teslas. It has the firepower of a fenrir, 4 teleports, regenerating shield every time it teleports, no need to aim, multiple targets at once, infinite damage that melts down 500K hp in 2 literal seconds, lockdown, and the fact that at least on mobile robots turn slowly so if I predict a shenlou is teleporting and turn around before they actually teleport my robot turns so slow I can't shoot the shenlou in time and they teleport again before I can actually aim at them. Especially with a curie I will perfectly time phase shift and use my turrets to survive shenlous but they still kill you with the most optimised use of all modules and abilitymies there's is literally nothing u can do. Shen loud teleports to u, u activate turrets, he teleports behind as the turrets go away, u phase shift, he teleports again, actuvate turrets again, teleports again, leaves u with 30% hp then teleports to spawn, just to do the whole thing again and again . All u managed to do was take down his shield 3 times before he got a new one from teleporting
You know, users complain that the Titans don't last because they don't know how to load the modules, they were used to taking out the Titan and throwing themselves headlong into the center of the fight, and now they have to wait longer to load the repair module, the Titans They continue to work well, let them learn to play...
I've played Luchador And Rook Recently, neither of them are max leveled, And they're not dead
I’m happy Pixonic did finally listen. The Titan survival rate was ridiculous and needed to be adjusted. So this nerf was very much needed. Question is was this change enough to level out the game play?
"So meta is not strong enough, old luchador and rook can give them good fight, I know what to do! Nerf thing that won't affect new Titans much and make old Titans unable to fight em lol"-pixonic
It’s weird cause the only titan mostly unaffected isn’t even the newest the bedwyr took a massive hit with the nerf while the Eiffel is slightly affected
I remembered that they were nerfing the repair amps just didn't know if it was in effect.
Honestly I just kept playing the same way I do with my Indra and didn't see a difference.
Players just need to learn to adapt and adjust they game play.
Rook and Luch are not dead.
Number 1 titan is not dead. Neither is the Number 4 titan.
“Ass finder” is crazy 😂😂
That Danny Lightning was the real one I think
Where I didn't see him there
@@EarthyChan in the first match
That was him in the ophion haha
Danny was in the first match. I saw him in Ophion, Pathfinder and in Eiffel titan. Predator had NO Mercy with Danny. Predator has killed him more times ( and his Eiffel titan too ).
An accurate assessment 👍 good video Predator
I honestly like the TRA nerf imo. It no longer is a free "invincibility" for titans, but instead its super helpful to heal up your titan, and if you are getting attacked by multiple titans, the 30 seconds of immunity to defense mitigiation and grey hp restore is all you need to turn the tide in your favor. Imo, the TRAs are still super great, but instead of being potentially gamebreaking, the just give you a temporary advantage against your enemies (which is very useful still).
They are far from cooked but I will say the repair amp need def took away from there strong points.
I run a Max Baihu Luchador with the following
* level 150 Luchador
*Level 25 vajra
*level 25 inferno
*level 25 Vajra
*x2 level 25 repair amps
*x2 damage controllers
I def have to play a lil smarter but once those repair amps stack to 60, Close range it's a force to be reckoned with haha I'm in championship league as well.
They're not dead but will be when those new sniper alpha weapons come to live
Rook will most likely have a chance though, since I think the shields might be able to resist those new weapons somewhat.
My max luch still doing good tbh. Switched to 2x RA and 2x Grand balance reactors instead of usual damage controllers. A lot of bendy bullet and other weapons used now instead of sonics. Gives me good health boost but most importantly huge DPS which breaks rook shields fast and if can get close to latest meta titans the ability to really hurt them fast between OP abilities.
i have luch 150lv before but still can't win against rook. just want to have the rook
Sounds smart.
@@khuetran4110. What Luchador build do you have bud?? Rooks are tough but with my max build I'm able to eat thru them with an inferno I got out of a data pad other day 😊
@@606krawldoggz i got the veyron build for like 9 months ago , at that time rook was unable to kill
@@khuetran4110 I have max vajra/maha vajra's, max veyron/evora's, and a max inferno and by far the best all around setup that I've found to work on all bots but seems rooks more then others is this Max Inferno for the alpha and max evora's on betas's. Now I see why anything with the new flamethrowers are brutal lol. Those weapons will make any bot back up if there smart that is haha
Luch is still fat and powerful
I think the best anti titan setup in the game is the UE flames Imugi I had a tdm match where it was a 1 v 5 for tge last 4 minutes I just used my imugi the entire match and had 16 mill damage and 25 kills including 4 maxed titans 3 luch and one rook😂 and the setup could be better as I still don’t have a ue blaze for the setup
I think indra was silently buffed with the tra nerf. Having that period of invincibility and movement speed to get out of a bad situation has come in much more clutch thanks to the nerf
You honestly gots to love how stupid some players are. Some idiot in the first match thought deploying a Bulava Murometz on a beacon under attack by another titan was a smart idea...
Also Predator, ur right. The Imugi isn't a spider bot. It's a beetleborg!!!
After 2 months of upgrading i just finished fully upgrading rook.before the update my rook could take on 3 titans. now im struggling to 1vs1. Same thing happened with my ophion.
Glad i spent all that money for nothing. Now i can rest knowing that my already underleveled luchador is less of a match against broken meta eiffels with homing bullets and flamethrowers. I cannot wait to dominate an entire match for 7/8 minutes just for an eiffel to solo my entire team and steal the win.
So you need is choosing the right modules and good weapons and they perform well, still not powerful and invincible as before
Predator, you're running the same shotguns Ares build as me
3:42 slipped up there buddy (would love to see you stream with no profanity-filter on)
"wrong league" is never true. As a F2P, I'm ALWAYS too high league for my hanger. 2 Leo's, a griffin, and a Gareth, all about level 6 will probably get me into high silver/low GOLD which I have determined to be WAY to high for a handful of common equipments...
what is the name of the background music you used im curious
Danny Lightning is a War Robots youtuber and he's good
9:34
Danny was in the first match. He had 6 Million damage but ZERO kills. But Danny is experienced player ( he is playing this game many years long ). Especially for a War Robots Content Creator this was a very bad result ( because without kills ). I would NOT say he is good. Maybe he is good as person. But he is NOT good player.
Noted ✅
3:42 he said path finder he's got the ass finder
Passfinder
Lmfao Didn't Noticed
You should do a chest opening with your keys, do like a review on it
Lucha can't stand against Eiffel like before , i play in high level champions league and yeah Eiffels rule now after the repair amp nerf , they clearly did it to favour the new bots , im over this pixo dogs , they suck the fun out of the game.
Flame throwers are still a problem
The luch is still strong still needs 2 Titians to take it down even after repair amp got activated
Rook has an impenetrable armor that takes days to just chip away or an entire team firing at it. A little less health hardly seems an issue when it can heal what little health anyone manages to take down. Luchador can kill anything with its jump attack. With the recent update all reflect shields including luchador are so OP you can't fire at them without losing more durability in reflect damage compared to the luchador. Damn these titans are already ruining the game in cheap victories. I guarantee almost every battle against champion league you see 2 or 3 rooks or luchadors appear at the same time and end the game for master league players. On the enemy team.
Hook não tenho mas luchador sempre nas partidas usando uma boa estratégia ainda causa muito estrago
I don't have the Nessa Riggs pilot so the shield recharge rate for me is 10 seconds
my fav luchador build is da sonic weapons
Where are all the piros and infernos
I've ran into a few rooks and luchs that had 3 repair amps. Almost impossible to kill!
Recently? After the nerf?
@@rwm1980I’ve been using rook ever since it came out and I can say it’s not dead even after the repair amp nerf I kill bedwyrs with no problem
@@rwm1980 yesterday
If/when I see a Fujin or Raijin sitting on a beacon, I won't shoot at him. Or anyone running old builds. It's not their fault they are put into the champion league (aka ptw league). I simply can't stand abuse, even if it's a silly online game.
****
Titans such as Lucha, Rook, Indra and Minos are still rocking. The nerf hit everyone, so it's fine - except the bendy-bullet Eiffel. So, the nerf was basically a boost to the Eiffel with it's mobility, extra HP and firepower. Not even the Bedwyr has a chance, which is newer than the Eiffel.
Pixo's mysterious ways 🤷
They will die anyways
@@Someone-fh1pi Yep, but I am not the one doing the killing.
Teletubey marshmallow man ice-cream sunday wow bro that's some line up
I just recently changed my Rook for bedwyr, I got tired to be an easy kill for Eifields or bedwyrs.
The Bedwyr gets also easily killed by any Titan running the Vajras and getting close. Also the bendy- Eiffel keeps the distance kills Bedwyrs easily 😢
I use a maxed out luchador and i do just fine with all the meta.
calm down, soon he will add something else that will make titans immortal. The credit card war won't survive without the new Titan module
They are only useless against the Eifel and Bedwyr...and the homing weapons and flames...I don't even engage those bots and focus on other players and beacons... But sucks having your Titan destroyed in one go
My luchador has damage controlers and singular reactors and it shreds It's only level 16 with level 4 maha vajra and vajra No titans stands a chance
Tbh they are nothing in front of Eiffel and Bedwyr.
I've been using Kraken Indra as a f2p with sonic weapons since I won it from superchest, and its lvl 138 with lvl 20 modules, still using the repair amps, and I'm chewing rooks eiffels, luchadors, everything with it. The only way you can survive is by taking them one on one, its nearly impossible to do a 2v1 after the reduced accumulation rates for motherships
Also why is noone talking about indra in the comments or videos?
The Indra with the vadra weapons has killed my Bedwyrs so many times that I'm using again my Sharanga 😅 with flamethrowers though
Cause I smoke a maxed Indra with just about any of my robots I run you would get 2 shotted by my ue ion ue spectre build 😂
@@Mud_Monkey here is your trophy bro: 🏆
@@alejandropeca7515 oh thank you 🙏 this is the best day ever I got a fucking trophy ima call my mom and let her know
@@Mud_Monkey of course you will.
If luchador is strong imagine if it gets a legendary pilot.
there a issues atm you may encounter starting league player on champion league i seen that happen often and im on master league
nooooo i was just about to set up a new luchador build,im bout to cry
Don't worry, they aren't cooked, they are just not in their prime anymore. The luchador and rook nerf, the titan repair amplifier nerf and the mothership charging slower have taken them out of the spotlight. They are still really good if you run them properly.
@@CRINGE_EDITS_so what’s your top titan choices? And module
@@vtecbanger3180honestly what titans do you have I got Effiel/bedywr or however you say it just depends on
Rook is still really good depending on your set up you can destroy all other titans but unfortunately the newer titans like bedwyr ,eiffel are monsters you can still beat them it's just really hard too so just get behind them while they are using their abilities.
@@vtecbanger3180 If you are a f2p, you can get your hands on the luchador pretty easily through chest openings or 2000 platinum. It's your choice. And if you are a ready to spend a small amount of money but not too much, I'd recommend rook. One of the reasons is because rook is more mobile than the luchador. While the luchador has its frog splash ability that doesn't take you too far, rook is capable of crossing half the map with its ability. Another reason is it's physical shields. If you are going up against a luchador while you are in a rook and have the same weapons and modules, I can guarantee the rook will win. You can use your physical shields to block the damage from the luchador and then unload your entire salvo on him while he is reloading. Sure, it may take a while if you both are maxed, but the rook will definitely win. The modules really depend upon you. If you are going for pure destruction, I'd say 1-2 onslaught/cannibal reactors, Titan repair amplifier and a damage controller. And if you want a bit of survivability, go for a Titan repair amplifier, 2 damage controllers and a anti control or a onslaught/cannibal reactor(it's your choice). This is only my opinion. The modules may vary person to person. Keep in mind that this module thing is after the Nerf of the TRA.
Who the hell said that rook and luchador are dead they're still really good especially for f2p.
Is that danny lightning?
Yea
The Rook and Luchador are already powerful enough without repair amps. A true measurement would be to use them on old titans or just do a side by side test. I don't think we needed the gameplay on this one Predator.
Locha is still a good titen because it's double ability..
i think new meta for titans will be damage builds instead of tanks
you made a video on it now and not a month ago???
also can you run a Pin Dagon please
players need time to see where the meta goes.....
@@PREDATORWR tru, but still can you make a pin dagon video
Hi predator👍🎮🔝👋👋👋
Is it normal for a luchador to be spamming its shield like every 5 secs? Or i was up against a cheater?
hmmm i play rook + paladin ship and can easily kill eiffels and other titans even in 2vs1 situations
dey nerfed da amp bc da old luchador & rook still being used😂
Interesting, ppl with natasha/kid/arthur in champ 🤣. I have some accounts for fun, one of them is in master 3 league with 430 wins, shell/falcon lv 10, scorpion lv 8, demeter lv 8, ox minos lv 50 (weapons are lv 8 or lower). Matchmaking is kinda inexistant. Imo, upwake definitely must change something...
I never depemded on repair amp 😂
Is a repair amp useful for Newton?
No
Titan Repair Amplifiers ( TRA ) are NOT useful for Newton titan. TRA are useful for titans with many durability hp points ( good useful for Luchador, Rook, Heimdall and Eiffel ). Newton is Sniper and Brawler. Useful modules for Newton are Onslaught reactors and Cannibal reactors.
My Newton two shots a Bedwyr now
I love Luchador 😎♾️
Hello predator
I haven't played in awhile they don't feel nerf to me.
New pilots for new bots kinda giveaway what their nerf will look like
Predator the one player in your second guy is tanking
Mine are no where near that strong 😂
Back to damage controller then lol
Rook is still a tank speedy boi
Rook and luchador ain't dead yet ...😂
You’re better off running one repair amp and 3 dmg controllers.
shotguns not bad on ares
Its the gey OP bendy Effiel titan that makes every other titan look trash... can't wait till they nerf it
Glad they nerfed TRA, after all, it's not Titan Invincibility Amplifier.
I sadly can smoke luchador in my bedwyr
Predator you should use the Vajra shotguns not the Sonic weapons
sonic weapons are still good bro
@@DivineSinWRnot when compared to Vajras
@@Ncptiona mix is the best
Sonics where always better than shotguns....especially when their bugged and can hot correctly
I dig the shotguns for sure
Not dead
Because of the TRA nerf Minos, Aether, murometz,etc became even more viable
Still op
Why they nerf this?
Finally they where a bit too stronge
My lucha :(
haha my rook isnt finished
But you only give us the "best" games that you play with them. But you run into top meta players that absolutely destroy your entire hanger then you tell me if the bot/weapon/titan is still good.
Nah they're not dead, they're more balanced, they're not made for brainless players who don't know how to play the game :)
The titan rebalance has been the best thing by far, now weapons like Dazzlers, Bulavas, Krait and even cataclysm do damage!
I see this same 👌👍.
in lower league there unkillable
Hii
Repair Amp Still good
They are still a beast but indra with the right equipment is now better and stronger than these 2 titans IMO
Idk if the indra really better but i must agree with you that me as a luchador's user, usually strunggling when fighting indra nowaday. The indra is so much better now and easy compete with meta after the TRA's neft
How do you do vs decent kill squads. It seems to me you play some real randos. Guaranteed vs real competition this would not happen. I don’t have a channel but probably should. Vs 3 Eiffel and maybe one ulti Ming this doesn’t work. Tg7cr7 game tag come play with us!
Bro took too long to make a video about this 😭