How To Know Your Partner Was Sent From God
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As a woman, I have a son, I love being a mother. But having children is something that God puts in your heart or that God makes happen. But if you are married and you both agree to not have children, I don’t think that’s dishonoring the Lord. It’s a choice. Did the apostles have children? Not every person has the same job. Not everyone has the same gifts. God did not create everyone with the same desires. But if you are serving the Lord with your life, there is no requirement to have children.
Well said!
There were only like 2-4 of the apostles who we’re married.
Yes, well said. I don’t think it’s that black and white, for myself I didn’t have a good example of marriage and did not have a good relationship with my parents, I was also abused as a child, and I think therefore I never wanted to be married or have children, however I didn’t grow up in a Christian household, so as I got older and eventually saved, my desire to not have children didn’t change, I prayed and asked God if there was something that I needed to do or wrong with me, I had peace that I was not meant to have children, still don’t have a desire to have my own, however God had blessed me and has surrounded me with them by way of younger cousins and nephews and nieces and my friends children, I also worked with kids. God told me I would travel the world and speak his name is different countries, which I did, wouldn’t have been able to with a family, also, I was diagnosed with ovarian cancer soon after and God so gracious, left my reproductive system in tact! A true miracle, after chemotherapy I considered maybe having a family and I prayed and He gave
Me peace that it wasn’t for me, I eventually because of health issues I had to undergo a full hysterectomy. God literally protected my emotional state by not putting that desire in my heart. Everything I went thru was so difficult that I don’t see how I could have made it if I had children. I have never been closer with my ABBA and I live to serve Him until Jesus returns. Blessings. (I do believe that He has someone for me though, in His time)
A woman can still be nurturing and multiply through values, presence, demeanor, and inspire others. not just through having children. and all the while, still doing the work of the Lord.
Absolutely. Totally see his viewpoint but a woman is more than just a mother (bearing children) but still a great conversation. 🙏
Nick, you are so focused on being right and stating your opinion that you dont hear the wisdom comimg from Elliott. Alot of maturity from Elliott. God bless
I just want to mention one person “ Paul”. He tapped into the full calling that God had for him! There are different ways that God uses us.
Nick 🤦🏾… the lord is still working on him. ❤
I agree with Elliott❤ we can glorify God without having children, everyone has a purpose & an assignment on earth. Some people leave this earth at young -older ages that didn’t get a chance to experience having children that doesn’t mean biblical they didn’t honor or glorify GOD! Biblical I haven’t found a scripture stating not having children is not glorifying GOD or something is wrong with the person for not wanting/desiring childbirth. I’m sure it would of been in the 10 Commandments if it was an absolute concern of the LORD❤ GOD is a jealous GOD we must serve him regardless if one’s desire is or isn’t to have children & it is pleasing to GOD to serve him🙌🏾
🙏🏾Good discussion
I don't like how you tuned out what was being said after asking him what his opinion was on the topic. Almost seems like because he began by saying he disagreed you didn't want to hear. I would say work on being an intentional listener, seeing you are hoping to have guests on a show going forward.
I agree
I just want to say there are several biblical examples of couples who didn't have children, but served the Lord. Prophetess Deborah and her husband, the couple that mentored Paul... Neither of these couples were said to have health issues.
That being said, selfishness can be a reason, but there are many reasons someone may not want to have children. I had a child as a teenager, raised him up to preteen years and he passed away. It was so traumatic that I said I never wanted more children and meant it. It didn't change my nurturing heart, but I understood what a loss like that feels like. Only God was able to change my heart. But even if He didn't, God still would've been honored in my life and my marriage. Like Elliot said, birthing children is not the only purpose or way to glorify the Lord. Of course it would be an issue if most people thought this way, but only a small number of people don't have a desire to have children.
I’m am so sorry for your loss 😞🙏🏼
I agree with Eliott, our purpose is bigger than birthing children...Another thing is let us look at the story of Jesus, Jesus was fruitful and he multiplied on earth and he did that not by bearing children... So it is a wonderful thing that we can choose even in a relationship to have children or not, and in every choice we have to exercise wisdom..
Excellent truth
I had to sit on this before responding. I do think it’s one man’s opinion on the not having kids part. I love the Lord and my walk reflects that. I am a nurturer, a helper, and I walk in love. However, I don’t want kids. I actually can’t have them because of having a hysterectomy at an early age because of health complications. Even when I could have them I didn’t want them. I think a better question is why doesn’t someone want to have kids? For me the reasons varied.. some people deal with depression, anxiety, have health issues and they don’t want to pass things down to their “kids” and this is just a small example of a countless number of reasons. There are a lot of people that have children and in my opinion shouldn’t. They can’t offer them the mental, emotional, spiritual, financial, or physical support that’s needed to raise a child. Saying that someone wasn’t sent by God because they don’t want to have kids is false. For you fine, because your desire is children..but for every other man..? Umm no. It’s like saying a woman that doesn’t want to have children was sent by Satan and can’t be a blessing to her man’s life and walk in her Godly purpose. Elliot gets this one, but Nick I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you.
As I was watching this I was thinking the samething of the examples you presented. Thank you for articulating this so well. God bless you my sister in Christ!
Thank you for the informative topic❤️. Nick sir, i found it disturbing that you weren't paying attention to your fellow brother. If we can practice listening first, seeking to understand before we interject our opinion, we gain the opportunity to understand others better. That breeds empathy and understanding, which also fosters humility.
God Bless you All!❤
That was articulated wonderfully! I concur. God bless you and the brothers in this video!!
I think in term of having kids, it has to be God’s will ! We’re in the Last and evil days and the Lord said Matthew 24:19 : “And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! “So it depends ! We need to acknowledge God in all things. We need to look at the times we are in, it’s not for everyone to have children. It has to be God’s will.
Amen! Agreed✅
I think being obedient to the will of God is more important in a partner than specifics like them not having kids etc. If a persons heart posture isn’t receptive to kids, thats pride. But if people are willing to be obedient and have kids even if they don’t want any is more pleasing to God than people exerting their free will
30:09 and furthering YOUR bloodline is for YOU. That’s low key a selfish desire to see your wife as someone who’s sole purpose is for YOUR legacy. There are people who can serve the Lord with their lives and have the complete freedom and time to do so without the challenging aspects of having children. If anything that can be looked at as selfless.
If you want complete freedom to serve the Lord you also shouldn’t get married either
The Bible says Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart. if having children is not a desire of a woman’s heart, then it simply isn’t. i think the why can and should be fleshed out with God but a lack of desire to bear children does not mean a woman cannot fulfill her God given purpose. I respect Nick’s opinion but I think it’s a little dense.
Totally agree speaking as a woman here. I think they should have women on the podcast
If you’re in a selfish time of your life then you need to work on that with God before having kids. Because raising them selflessly and with patience is important. Although I want kids, I don’t believe it’s every woman’s calling. I agree with Elliot’s point of view prioritizing the marriage
i wouldn't say its " not walking in your purpose if you don't want kids biblically" Paul talks about if you're not already married it's better to stay single and focus on spreading the word. So, saying it's not biblical is simply incorrect.
I love the Christian dating show idea! I would definitely watch that. I used to love dating shows. When Elliot was talking about making decisions that would glorify God, asking God if He'll bless things and then walk - that spoke to me. I get too fearful to make moves, but I feel like God wants me to take steps, definitely keeping Him a part of it, but doing challenging things that I aspire to do with assurance He will be with me.
Nick, I hope you watched Elliot's response later on. Elliot stated his view, but stayed Biblical about it where his opinion didn't leave him lacking in grace for others who are walking with the Lord differently. Nick, you were so stuck on your personal opinion about a woman not glorifying God to the fullest capacity by not wanting to have kids. Did Jesus or any of the apostles tell anyone to be fruitful and multiply? The focus seemed to be spreading the gospel. For those of us without kids, there's even more time to spend with God, and to serve. Wives without kids will love, nurture, and take care of their husbands. And you don't have to be blood to love and nurture someone.
But I appreciate this whole conversation and that part was a teachable moment because sometimes we, as Christians, let our own personal perspective on something dictate more than the Bible, more than God. And we have to watch out for that. Every episode of Heis that I've watched so far has been encouraging and made me think, so I look forward to whatever else y'all have in store for us.
I disagree with Nick and thought it was off he didn’t even listen to the others response. Biblically its important to listen to others. And he legit said I wasn’t listening. Distracted.
Yeah, I agree!
Please do not have kids if your financially , mentally or physically unfit. Side note ; there are tons of kids and babies that lost their parents at birth , or given up or born into poverty all around the world. If we don’t have kids we can be missionary moms or dads. Take that time and money and be a good and faithful servant of God . 2 happy married people can also choose this path also .
Great points on self control especially for men! God appointed men to lead women and if they cannot lead well, they aren’t ready to be husbands.
If you put your desires first failing to follow God’s instructions and do not deny your flesh, you are a slave to your desires and they become idols and pitfalls in your life.
God Bless Y’all!🙏🏼
I’m so glad to see men honoring God in conversation and the issues of life. 🎉
RIGHT!❤❤ God is good
Having children is not a fruit of the Spirit. Not wanting children is not a sin.
My husband says his job is to provide, protect and profess. Profess meaning articulating that he loves God and me above all else.
I just hear you trying to force your agenda on people. Just be cool, it's your opinion fine, let it be that and we understand
We've all sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. C'mon Nick. I hope you've reconsidered this topic.
A few things…
-If we are going to speak to a woman’s potential for children and call it a biblical mandate, please have a woman on the podcast.
-there’s several apostles and leaders in the Bible who did not choose marriage and family. It didn’t impact their anointing. Paul actually says it’s better not to marry actually…would also imply having kids
-No one cares if a man gets married. In fact, remaining celibate and dedicating your life to ministry is applauded if you are a male. Women should not be treated differently in this regard. Marriage is a ministry, and you are not entitled to having kids just bc your organs work. It is a GIFT
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I love this ! I love seeing young black men who love Jesus discuss these topics in an intellectual, apparently sincere and self reflective manner. Thank you Jesus for these men and other like them
I wish the other guy got deeper into the Paul aspect because Paul talked a lot about being single and seeing how that’s a easier option in life, we can even look into Jesus lifestyle he was single I feel like if relationships and giving birth was all in only that we needed, I feel like that’s all that would be glorified in the Bible
I don’t agree with Nick on this. There’s a time and a season for everything. I personally don’t want to have kids because of the time we are in. Jesus taught us how worse it will be to have kids in the last days. BUT if the Lord tells me that’s His will for me , regardless of the time, then YES ! I will do it, because I know there’s a purpose behind it, not just to continue a blood line! Ok then you have kids then those kids can turn to be godless if it’s not God’s will. Read the book of Kings, some of their kids end up being so evil, they led the Israelite to sin. So again it has to be God’s will !
I agree I am a christian and in the days we live in i honestly dont want to have kids, i have had this conversation with GOD and honestly its ok, not everyone is called to be a parent or be married. I honestly dont think GOD forces us to be parents, its ok if you want to be a parent and be married and also is ok not to want both. For me i dont think i need to bring a child in the world to be a parent, we can adopt and raise beautiful healthy children. We have different assignments when it comes to GOD, and we should respect each other decisions.
Exactly !
Yes we should be aware of the intention of the enemy on our children but then at the same time we should trust God! Pray and have faith while you plan to conceive that the blood of Jesus will cover over your offspring. Pray right through that season of conception before; during and afterward when you hold your baby for the first time and God will fulfil his promises upon your child. For we do not live in fear, God did not give us a spirit of fear but of power, love and a sound mind!!
And abiding by the will of God as well that includes God first then marriage then children.
@@tendai4043that’s right I agree with you. That’s why I said it has to be God’s will ! If it’s God’s will for sure I know the Lord’s hand will be in the kids ! No matter what ! I just think that even in this matter asking God’s will is important.
Love to see men still have a heart for God! It's beautiful!
I’m currently watching! I agree Nick, as someone who wants kids & always wanted to be mother/wife. I couldn’t see myself forfeiting that!! I have been with someone in my past. Who told me he didn’t want kids & at some point in our relationship.. we bumped head’s about. He eventually told me why. He didn’t think he would be good dad & etc. I almost compromised. I just couldn’t give that desire up! I’m currently enjoying my single season. But, I’m excited that one day I get to experience marriage & kids. But, if Jesus wrote about some people wanting to stay single & they still glorify God (Matthew 19:11-12). I think it would be the same for those who don’t want kids. Sure there is a deeper issue at hand! But, I agree with you both!!
#Long rant sorry 🥴
It’s no longer about what we wanna do and don’t wanna do, God made us to be fruitful and multiply! If you don’t want to , it’s an issue with your relationship with God. You are being rebellious and telling God what you won’t do! If you truly love God and have a real relationship with God, you’ll do what he say regardless of how you feel!!! 💯❤️🔥🙏🏾
I agree. That’s what Nick is trying to say. It’s an honor, and God even made promises to bless people with a legacy of children and more. It was literally the first commandment to be fruitful and multiply. I think we make thing sooo difficult sometimes when it’s right there. He keeps saying that he agrees but he’s saying that’s not just it. But it is lol. God told us what to do, and we keep disobeying.
I really believe he’s right, but there are exceptions. I believe not having children is a selfish desire put within a lot of people by the world and it’s distractions. The devil really placed a tremendous amount of distractions before us. I believe many parents that have those stressors of wanting breaks and stuff are really feeling pressures of keeping up with the world. Not saying moms and dads don’t deserve breaks.
These topics are so beautiful… or rather the way you feel about them. This popped up as I’m working and hearing what you guys are saying is beautiful. ❤️ we need more men like this 😊
What if you wanted to have children but can’t? Is it considered a red flag to not be able to have children.
Thank you for making this video ❤
Cool, brother Nick it's so awesome to see you doing a podcast with someone. I'm subscribed now❤
I’m 17 minutes in but I completely agree. It’s was also a red flag for me if a man didn’t want kids. As someone who has been pregnant and been blessed to stay home with my baby it is the single most fulfilling thing I had every done and I have accomplished quite a bit that others deem “impressive” I won’t go into detail. But there is NOTHING like being a momma ❤
Love y'all! I always can appreciate a true friendship 😂
Nick, I agree with you. We say the live by God's commandment. The only commandment that comes with a blessing or curse is the 5th one. Even when they have reached adulthood, children are to respect and honor their parents, especially those Godly parents whose righteousness has been rewarded with a long life. This should be enough for us to see the importance God has placed on bearing children. Also, look at the blessings and curses for disobedience. Many acts of obedience affect the offspring and generations. These are clear indications of what God expects from those who say they love him. Unfortunately, many pick and choose what they want to accept and reject. God's word is clear and complete. Man, leaning on their own understanding is the main cause for all of this confusion.
Some people understand their mental and physical capacity does not allow them to have energy to sustain a good marriage and have kids.
At the end of the day I believe God has called us glorify Him - the best way to do that is live as He has made you. As Paul understood- he served the Lord better as a single man.
Paul said it was better to be single and dedicate all of yourself to Christ (if possible)... to do so, would mean you wouldn't have any kids....... which would mean that having kids isn't EVERYTHING, it is a Powerful thing, but I don't believe it's the heart and soul of "glorifying God".... idk
side note, I want kids lol, but I'm just making a point
Yes you are right. It's better for us to not be married so we can be concerned with serving God than serving our husbands or wives. Nick seems to have a personal issue with women who don't want kids.
1 Corinthians 7:1
1 Corinthians 7: 34
@@lyricsornah9882 but I also see his point... a lot of women in my generation seem not to want kids for kinda selfish reasons (like their figure, their freedom, etc.) -- and I think a shallow mindset like that, would definitely be a red flag... what do you think?
@@marvah99 that mindset is a red flag because it is worldly. I feel like a Christian woman who has received the Holy Spirit would have a non worldly reason for not wanting to have children or even getting married. For me if it's in God's will for me to be married and have children I will yield to my Father but personally I'm not interested in either.
@@lyricsornah9882 I agree, At the end of the day, it's whatever God has in store for each person.. there are people who dearly want kids, but aren't able to have any, and people who had kids even though their tubes were tied or whatever else was done lol... It really is in God's hands.
I'm the opposite of you lol where i'd like to have a family of my own, but I'm down for whatever🤷... Why worry about tomorrow when today has enough troubles of its own lmbo😂
God blessed u brothers
God bless you guys
Ive never watched a podcast that ended when i still wanted it to go on
I disagree with Nick Jones because then it all comes down to salvation if we’re taking it to that extreme. God still loves you and is for you regardless. I also thinking you shouldn’t worry whether your friend agrees with you or not, you should let him have his own thoughts and opinions without making him feel like he needs to think the same exact way as you. Who the son sets free is free indeed, try not to box him in, it seems like he feels he needs to walk on eggshells. Y’all are both men of God. It’s ok to agree to disagree . God bless both ❤️
Wait, also… knowing if a person is sent from God should be based on their morals & if they are rooted in Christ. Also, their PURPOSE! It should align between man & woman. That’s number ONE!
Malachi 2:15 says ' Has not the Lord made them one? In flesh flesh and in spirit they are his. And why one? Because he was seeking godly children'. This means it's God's will for a married couple to have children so that they can raise them to be godly.
Not sure which translation you're reading, but it may help to read another for this verse for understanding... it speaks of a marriage to the daughter of a strange god(Lower case g). Specifically 2:15, seed in this case could mean multiple things not specifically speaking on children, but more on what the marriage will produce period... i would suggest to take this to back to God for understanding on what is being said .
@@LilMzzKeKe99 you dont think God wants to produce godly children through Christian couples?
@@malebobrielle5912 yes i do believe so, but that's not what I'm speaking on here. Specifically im just speaking on the context for which you used the scripture maybe a little off, but my overall point is what did God say not what do we think.
Hey guys glad to see y'all again God bless both of you 🙏
yay , speaking on this topic is vital . The world from birth shows you how to do things , what seg looks like , how its done , what marriage looks like , what singleness looks like , what relationships look like etc . Also i think dating is a wordly thing. Why dine and dash if God already gave YOU reservations ??? BUT as christans its our jobs and duties to show the Set Apart side of all this . What it is , does , and looks like . For ex most people learned what seg is through corn and movies which is 100% p3rverted. Therefore when it comes to seg in marriage they genuniely struggle and have no idea what that even is or what it looks like because for years theyve been shown one way and havent been taught and explained the Set Apart way . Also if you live in , and move in The Holy Spirirt . Holy Spirirt will lead and guide you and God WILL provide confirmation but YOU must have knowlegde wisdom and STRONG discernment . Most imporant relationsip is with you Papa who loves you most in JESUS NAME
Amen about what the apostle Paul said but I think when you are young you are still finding God and finding yourself. Once you have built a solid relationship with God and have matured in yourself, you are ready for marriage if you please. 🙏
I believe God sent me the person for me at 16 and he was and still Is a strong Christian and i left him because i was still in love with my ex which ended up being a mistake and years later never met any other guy that had the same values and im 41 and living how I should and waiting on God to send me another blessing
You can’t talk down on Tim Ross podcast and you’re out here making claims like Not having kids is not biblical … doesn’t God put our desires in our heart? So what if they don’t want to have kids so they could focus on God’s purpose for their life? Co host was on timing but Nick you was wylin… I watched a lot of your reaction videos and just found this podcast. This is not it, though. I could not make it through the first point. Blessings though and hope you base your opinions more on Bible from now on brother🙏🏾❤️
Confronting Jezebel by Steve Sampson, I highly recommend this book, I never understood that spirit the way I did after I read this book and not only that but I was delivered from that spirit as well while reading it, it was something I can’t really explain, God was just revealing and convicting and I was surrendering asking for forgiveness and rebuking, it was like my eyes were open and I could now see every little thing that the enemy uses in women to have a stronghold on her. I highly recommend it. Blessings.
Well said, it is God who gives you your gifts and calls you to what He has for you. His love is even revealed in our ability to choose. This conversation reminded me of having a discussion about whether we should eat meat or not…..😒 bro Jesus already died for meeee. You do you and Ima do me in the name of Jesus. All that means is simply that person is not for you. There will be no judgement, condemnation or internalization. What God convicts me about may not always be what He convicts someone else about.
Romans 14: 3-4 NIV
“One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them. Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand. One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.”
History, fear, lack of support, not a desirable time etc. are a few things that came to mind when thinking about why a women wouldn’t want to have kids . A similar thing can be said though for why anyone male or female wouldn’t want to “give birth”/ bring forth anything God has given them the gift and ability to do such as achieving your dreams, starting a business, being the “chain breaker” in your family etc.
Romans 14: 2 (MSG)
“Remember, they have their own history to deal with. Treat them gently.”
I understood his perspective and understand that he may not have intended to judge those who do not have a desire for kids. Nonetheless, even though I myself want kids it was still cringy in my spirit to hear that as a woman 😂
We love to hear men of God speak.
I agree about a wife being submissive, a nurturer and helper to her husband, a husband being a leader, protecter and provider, and having children if you’re capable. Women being independent is not what God designed but the world’s evil agenda is encouraging more than ever, same with men having multiple woman. Someone who is attractive on the outside but not on the inside, makes them extremely less attractive. Someone that is isn’t extremely attractive on the outside but is on the inside, makes them even more beautiful!
I cry after pray, worship and praising too lololol 😭
Be humble and caring. Serve one another. Pray together. Spend time together and stay connected🔥❤️
I want my future wife to love Jesus more than she loves me or herself. That's how I'll know she's:
a) Serious about her relationship with the Lord, therefore obedient to his will.
b) Ready to eventually create new life knowing the responsibility that truly means as a mother(nurturing)
c) Submissive to me, her Husband in the eyes of the Lord. Not my own.
I am not naive to the fact that men and woman need to grow together in order to become who they are destined to be (it doesn't happen over night) so i dont expect to "check off all the boxes" at first sight.
In this American Culture, knowing wether or not they have a genuine relationship with the Lord is key. At least im my eye 👁️👄👁️
It is the key and asking the right questions and really looking at their morals and character is very important to get to the truth...people lie about it and say oh yes I believe in God 😒 so asking do u believe in God is not a good question they will just say yes 🤦🏽♀️ I messed that up I was young and had no wisdom 🤦🏽♀️ then I realized that because he saw it in me he figured oh "She's going to be forgiving, oh I can act a fool and mistreat her and use her because she has empathy and she has to if she actually believes" 🤦🏽♀️ they will use it against u to make u be the only one that has to somehow be perfect by yourself...😒 people have to be careful and really disecern a person 😭🙏🏽
Paul did not want to get married and have kids yet he worked for the Lord. Is Nick only talking about people who do get married but don’t want to have kids?
I think so
Ima need that EP 4 😂😂😂 ❤
This is a great conversation. To comment on the topic of children I believe that he’s right when God created us we were to have children. But sin entered the world, distractions entered, and I believe that people are more concerned with their will and not Gods will. So, ppl don’t want to simply have children, love others, work the land, and worship God. They want to travel, party, etc. Now, our focus has also changed. We don’t all know God. So, some of us won’t be Mother’s and fathers. Some of us should be out here trying lead souls to Christ. And as others have mentioned being fruitful in other ways.
Let’s be honest though, are most Christian’s out here being fruitful in that way, or are we displaying and promoting confusion like the rest of the world. I believe from a Christian perspective that yes if you can have children you should have it in your heart to want children. Remember in the last days people will want to be lovers of themselves. To me, I believe that we have forgotten why we were created, and we were created for his glory. Not to go see our favorite celebrities in concert, or sit and watch movies all day, but for God. And we are to create others for God too.
Elliot is preaching! I see marriage a little differently. The other guy saying he wasn't listening was extremely rude to me.
Please remember Jesus had no physical kids, yet He honoured God with His life and He has a name greater than any other Name.
Not choosing marriage as a Christian is not selfish. According to Jesus, some choose to be eunuchs for the sake of the gospel Matthew 19:11-12, 1 Corinthians 7:7.
That someone does not want to have children is not a sin at all!
I personally am not married or don’t have kids and I’m 23. I also still don’t have a desire for it. Does that then mean I’m not fulfilling Gods command? Because from what I understand from Paul is that it is better to not marry, as it is said in 1 Corinthians 7. As a single person, i know my focus is to grow my relationship with God. However, it is an interesting topic.
Proverbs 18:22 KJV
[22] Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, And obtaineth favour of the LORD.
I want to know more about Elliot! You single? How old are you? Your DMs open ?? 😂
SN: I just have to applaud Elliot because I haven’t met/ witnessed too many young men that’s this rooted in Christ!(only on CZcams) I love it!
I agree with Nick on everything about the topic of not having kids up until the point of saying that you're not walking in the fullness of God or that a partner isnt sent from God if they dont want kids. Two people who love the lord can get married and not have kids and still glorify God cause they can glorify God and dedicate themselves to ministry or growing the kingdom. Its possible that a woman wouldn't want kids cause she wants to further dedicate themselves to ministry. Only way I see it as a red flag is if God has plainly told them to have children and they disobey God and dont do it. Btw I'm a woman who wants to get married,have kids and think people should strive to have kids
Hallo I’ve just seen this podcast and thought how blessed you both are in your youth to truly honour God. The mutual respect between both of you is so clear to see and really shows how christian brothers should walk in life. However the other brother prays with his head covered the Bible clearly states a man who prays with his head covered dishonours his head. Is this a scripture you’re not aware of or are you choosing not to obey it ?
Doing things for the short run to find out about it later is what leads to child abuse. Ppl who know they don’t want kids prob don’t need them. Ppm who have kids and really don’t want them, don’t need them.
nick smile is so nice
Well Nick, good thing your married & got a woman that wants children. But, pregnancy/ birth can be a scary experience. I know a few women who don’t want kids, & their traveling/ doing things they love. Women are also capable of changing their mind if God allows & they meet the right man.
Read (1 Corinthians 7:8-9). Paul speaks on singleness
I dont think God made every women to have kids, just like he didn't meant for everybody to be married.
The guy in the hat is coming from a Luke warm stand point. It’s either you listen to what God says to do or you don’t! God wants us to pick a sign!! When you are truly getting to know the character of God , you not tryna find ways to go against or justify going against him! Nick had righteous anger because it’s annoying for people to bounce back and forth and not making a real stand on where they are. I’m with God and Nick on this one!
Romans 7:21
I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
YESSSIRRRRRR
God can bless any union...However, it is about the. Choice you make in choosing a spouse. The one gift God gave us all is the gift of choice; Yet, he does not honor divorce. When you agree to for better or worst, God really expect us to honor our words. God is married to the church (the back slider). He has never left us but we do leave him often. Overall, get to know a person intent, their family, how they are around and feel about children, how they see money and religion, etc.
Pushin P - Purpose Partner 😄
I believe on 1 hand, if god called you to not have children then you’d be able to serve the kingdom more. For instance we have paul who didn’t have a family yet he wrote 1/3 (takin a guess don’t know if accurate) of the new testament and we see the fruits of it. Yet on another we can see having a family that serve god also is also good and a blessing. But I believe that would cost u time bc now you’re putting in time in taking care of the children and the family u build. So It’s a teeter-totter, on 1 hand u have more time to serve god and the kingdom, but on another u can raise a family that worships god and does his will to advise the kingdom. its truly whatever god calls u to do 🤷🏾♂️
i honestly agree with nick, i see the other point but i do think if you’re fit to have children and love the LORD what would be your true reason to not have kids ? i do think it’s routed out if selfishness and i’m nowhere near having kids but if we live for God why wouldn’t we want to have children for God as well ?
I like the fact you guys are doing a dating show, thats awesome. Let me ask, would you guys fly candidate out if they really want to come?
Speaking of garropolo I’m hoping god sends him to me 😂
1 Corinthians 7:8-9, 17,20
Nick just wants to talk, he's not listening to Elliot, doesn't want to accept other's opinions....& what was that with him licking his lips and puckering them up?? Lord I rebuke what ever spirits are operating in Nick!!
I just had to share this out of love because it's most definitely not unbiblical or ungodly for a woman to not desire to have children because in order to have children (and doing so God's way, you need to be married first) and marriage is not for everybody. Even apostle Paul talks about how he wished every one were single like him instead of being married because you're able to fullly devote yourself more to God but if you're unable to control yourself (sexually speaking) then it's better to be married then to be burning with lust.
1 Corinthians 7:7-9
1 Corinthians 7:32-35
These verses explain what im talking about. However, I do respect that you personally want a woman who desires to have children and I hope God blesses you with a woman who has that desire but its most definitely not ungodly if a woman chooses to not get married, not have children and fully devote herself to the Lord (for example, like nuns do).❤
He who findeth a wife...not a girlfriend...when a man is able to discern and recognize his wife, courtship to marriage should begin. She should display the qualities in your observation from a far or working alongside them in the church.
truthfully I don't believe it's in anyone's "natural" desire to want to be with multiple people. this wasn't how it was in the beginning it was very clear that it was one women made for Adam to fulfill. its the world that created a need for variety and newness. its not normal and I don't think men should continue accepting that concept. Because for most women even worldly ones they search their whole lives to love one man. because she's his rib. Its the lust of flesh and sin that causes men to look at their sisters wrongly for their own pleasures and selfish desires but I strongly don't believe it's normal , natural of any kind nor should it be taken as such. If it's in God's will when one becomes saved , that they only desire to love one women then that's the original plan anything outside of that is a false imitation and clearly influenced by the enemy the father of lies. Also I truly don't believe you can pick who you are meant to marry again based off variation.. I think just like with Adam and Eve that God created the man a women is to marry and the women a man is to marry... If you've noticed mostly when men and women "pick" their own mates it goes terrible wrongly and literally leads to generations of destruction. this podcast was cool but it needs to be more biblically standed and not so opinionated otherwise it can cause others to stumble without even realizing it.
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Wait is it episode 2, or 3? because episode trois, is 3. and deux is 2.
A woman can be a nurturer without having children.
Does every man want children?
Also, if that woman has yet to experience a loving relationship that allows her to feel safe and protected, it's no wonder she doesn't feel safe with the idea of having children.
I get that being your personal preference, but to say everyone woman on earth should want to have children.. I can't agree. And I myself want to have children.
I agree.
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That’s wrong. I lift weights and my husband doesn’t. But he has a black belt in Jujitsu. I always feel protected.
@elliot honestly if you meet a woman and she does not want kids 97% chance she’s not going to be a helper or a good wife …it may start good but her selfishness will ultimately take over
Ok... Do you think Hosea wanted a prostitute? What you are saying is almost equivalent to saying a prostitute would not be sent from God. I agree with you that a woman who is capable of bearing children and doesn't want children is a form of selfishness. However, we don't know how God will be glorified. Your challenge could be having a spiritual walk with a woman who can't bear children.
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30 mins in im frustrated! Lol yall need a moderator on the women having kids topic. I could have moderated and knocked that conversation down to less than 10 min. I know what both of yall were trying to say but couldn’t get the other one to understand
Pushin P 😆 omg
I’m interested to know Elliott’s take on Onan ejaculating on the ground and God putting him to death bc he didn’t want to give up his semen to his late brother’s wife so that she may have a child unto his brother(Genesis 38). Also 1 Timothy 14 when he speaks of the younger women are to marry, bear children and be the woman of the household to prevent idle work (mischief, gossiping, tattling).
Show me a Biblical reference after Christ for the reason for the red flag.
These conversations are so one sided and disappointing. As men who serve God you should be more careful with your words to not offend and seek to understand your sisters in Christ instead of judging harshly.
All women shouldn’t be mothers & if someone doesn’t want to be a mom they can still glorify God with their bodies. Women w/out children can also be nurturers ... what’s selfish is having children and not have the means to care for them ... Paul said it’s better to remain single so you can focus on His purpose & biblically children are meant to be created in a family unit. If this is the case, woman that chose singlesness & not having children are actually able to do more work for the Kingdom
I alway say when I get married, and he wants a child, I will give him one. or whatever happens happens.I have a son now there's know want for kids, my want is for a HUSBAND. then we will go from there😇........