All kinds of sources: TV: Tagesschau, Heute Radio: Several stations including pure news channels CZcams: Several independent news outlets like The young turks, David Pakman, Brian Tyler Cohen. Web: USNewsOn that streams Fox News, OANN, MSNBC and CNN Newspapers: local newspaper, Online Newspaper resources: paid subscriptions to FAZ, Die Zeit, New York Times
All the news from the "Öffentlich Rechtlichen". That's why I gladly pay for it. I often listen to "Deutschlandfunk Nachrichten" in the car or in the evening when preparing dinner so that I´m up to date.
Generally a mix between Tagesschau, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Süddeutsche Zeitung and the Guardian. Trying to get different perspectives to broaden my horizon.
For me its overall the Tagessschau too, beside other news outlets. The public offerings are especially independent and fact based. The right wing activists wants to abolish them all first - their arguments is ...well they are forced to pay for it.
The Jugendwort is incredibly important! Nobody says it… but just the fact that that lady is saying it every year is being celebrated by people all across Germany
Naaah you did not call “das Jugendwort” less important? Susanne Daubner announcing it is so iconic, it’s literally one of the reasons people even vote. 😂
The most shocking fact is how few people actually watch the news in the US. Germany is so much smaller but 10 times more people actually watching the news
It makes sense.. The more "sided" towards left or right or more specifically the news programs are the less interesting is to watch news for political reason. Cuz yall know what they will say who they will blame. The less "sided" the more interesting and informative the news will be
Looking at the fractions is more extreme, like every 8th german watches the tagesschau not once, but daily on average. The numbers in the US are tiny compared to that.
That is not true. Only people over 60 years of age still follow the Tagesschau as their prime source of information. All others know that it has a strong bias towards the left and it will provide you only with information they think is important. And mostly it's less information but more opinions. So while many people in Germany still watch the Tagesschau they now see it more as a suggestion to what to look up in the internet after for more perspectives of all angles.
German here. News is about serious stuff. Why would you think serious stuff should be reported in an entertaining way? That's the worst way to report the news. News should be serious. News should be boring. At least the way it is delivered. That makes sure that when you feel something, you know for sure it's because of the news itself and not because of the way it is delivered. If you want to be entertained and see big bang boom, watch some MCU at 20:15.
The more "unimportant" news in the German news is a tradition. Susanne Daubner reads traditionally the "youth word of the year" and because of her unemotional pronounciation and her, not being the target group for fancy words like "sus", "goofy" etc. makes her a meme in the German CZcams. German Creators use these short clips in their videos and Susanne Daubner absolutely lives for this. That's so charming ❤️
And therefore, Susanne has more personality than all the news personalities from FOX and CNN combined. The impish grin, when she opens the envelope every time, is more than enough proof.
Belguim and the Netherlands do that to. But our news is longer, incl sports 30min.. but without sport also easily 20 min. After the sports, it is common to end with something light, to help a bit balance all the often heavy news before :-). Like a a cute animal born in the zoo, word of the year, or the day of ... if its not something to polerising, and some nice to see action to ask attention for that theme :-)
Maybe to demonstrate how big the institution of the Tagesschau is in Germany: In a small town there was a church, that rang its bells every day sharp at 8pm. The neighbors of the church complained to the local city council because the ringing of the bells disturbs watching the Tagesschau. The city council held this for pretty reasonable and had the ring time of the church move to 7.45pm. You gotta love Germany
Echt jetzt? 😳 Krass. War aber bestimmt nicht in Bayern, oder? Den Schwaben würde ich sowas zutrauen. Und dem eher unreligiösen Norden sowieso. Aber da hört man Kirchenglocken meist eh nicht stündlich.
@@katrincarstens5125HALLO! Bloß weil wir im Norden an das Spaghetti-Monster und den kosmischen Lieferservice glauben sind wir doch nicht unreligiös. 😉😘😊
I used to work for a TV graphics company that had many American customers. I was surprised by the insane amount of extra "information" on screen during the news: banners, tickers, Picture in Picture, flashing graphics, etc. The news looks more like a '90s internet website
Yeah, the entire presentation of US news feels a bit... trashy to me. The visuals and the audio evoke the feeling of a lower quality compared to Tagesschau or ZDF Heute Journal - without taking actual content into account.
could be because they are more like 24/7 news channels which need to have some action on screen so people stay there longer. The main news source (Tagesschau) has its own channel which is 24/7 but the people focus on just the 8:00 - 8:15 pm news. There is no reason to switch to another channel. You know what you get there: important global and political news, then sports, than weather and everything in an very fact based unemotinal way. It's like someone telling you "Good evening, today the marsians invaded earth, 200 million people dead. And now the weather."
I‘ve lived in America for half a year - And even though I don’t have epilepsy, I thought I was going crazy with all those blinking lights, almost screaming news personalities, picture in picture, and headlines everywhere. Coming back to Germany and watching the news here was refreshing
It should be mentioned that ARD Tagesschau not only reports the news but also does the research globally, based on 28 studios all over the world, featuring one of the largest networks of correspondants / reporters.
While you mentioned it, it beats repeating: ARD does not rely on advertising or sponsors for funds. Thus it does not have the pressure to sensationalise and dramatize the news. I think that is the biggest issue with most other media around the world. "who pays for the news" determines how the news is shaped.
You currently pay 18,36 € per month for "no ads". German public television is a money swamp. Income from the broadcasting contribution increased slightly again in 2022, to around 8.57 billion euros. That is the GDP of small countries.
@@michaelb1964but there are none in the news. And after Primetime there are no ads at all. All ads are between two different shows, and do not interrupt a running show. That's an incredible difference to private broadcasters who stream ads every 15 minutes for 5 to 7 Minutes in Germany. Or 2 minutes every 5 Minutes in the US
"you get the sense that the US is the center of the universe" How modest of them to call their national champions "world champions" instead of "masters of the universe" as would be their rightful place.
There's this joke that there must be a rigged jury in the Miss Universe contest, because only women from Earth will win: "No woman from another planet has ever made it to the finals. Conspiracy?" 😁
Whenever i was in the US and tried to stay informed what is going on around the world or who won the elections in Germany I had to use the Internet..watching American TV gave me the impression there are no other countries existing
@@lenas6246Because basically everyone has a TV and even if you don’t want to watch TV currently it still provides appreciable background noise while doing other things. Germans like to watch their news during breakfast/dinner. (even though that used to be considered bad manners)
What's also important to know is that the news network behind the tagesschau is incredibly big, spreading all their journalists and reporters all around the world to almost any country. It is also a prime source for many over news networks.
The 50+ generation, of which I'm part of, considers it rude to call someone on the phone during "Tagesschau". I've never answered a call myself while watching the News.
@@Spatzenterrorne. Das ist dann nur ein denkfauler Schwurbler, der so einen Mist absondert, wie du gerade. Was die "Denken" nennen, das reicht noch nicht einmal für die Aufnahme an einer Grundschule. Die plappern nur dummes Zeug nach, das sie von einem anderen Deppen gehört haben.
@@SpatzenterrorDu glaubst wahrscheinlich auch, alles besonders intelligent zu „hinterfragen“, weil du dich in Telegramkanälen und auf „unabhängigen“ Internetseiten informierst. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉
I like the Tagesschau news format. Within 15 minutes, you are informed of what is going on nationally and internationally. It doesn't waste my time. Also I appreciate that the news don't have an emotional undertone. Mostly pure information with some footage shown. Just a very efficient way to deliver a product and then let people move on with their lives.
Based on that, one can say that US news media attempts to think on behalf of the people giving people no space to make their own judgments, and Tagesschau attempts to give the information and let the people come to their own conclusions.
@@elbarto4069 I have not, I was merely speculating, based on the comment and the video. I am only aware of the US media, and it is unbearable propaganda and brainwashing. Surely, Tagesschau would be better than that, given the greater trust that the German public places in it.
Being German and 42 years old, I‘d rather translate Tagesschau with „view“ than with „show“. Both translations are possible, but it‘s not a show. It delivers a view on the main news of the day. Anyhow, thanks for your video. It‘s so useful to see other views on things, by people of other nations. By this, my opinion, we learn from each other, see our differences - and may come closer to each other ❤
In my opinion, German news programs are information programs, while American news programs are entertainment programs in which world events play a relatively minor role.
@@Thomas-py6dw There are people who basically always and everywhere smell propaganda. Compared to other countries, I find the news from Germany's public broadcasters pleasantly neutral.
Exactly. I was forced to watch Russian state TV for a freaking decade and also followed US TV stations like MSNBC or CNN since ether 2016 elections and German news since 9/11. Like the difference between night, sundown and day😅
After 1,5 weeks on my 2 week roadtrip in the US as a German I literally started searching for the Tagesschau on youtube. It's weird how Americans live in their own tiny news bubble.
Ja ist cool das wir so viel mitbekommen , hat aber auch Nachteile. Dauernd schlechte Nachrichten zu sehen und hören belastet einen unterbewusst, kein Wunder ist ganz Deutschland so mürrisch...
doch, manchmal ist das da. aber das ist doch kein vergleich zu einem zustand in dem absolut jeder in seiner eigenen kleinen realität lebt, es keine gemeinsamen nenner mehr gibt und einzelne private noch 10-fach weniger kontrolliert werden als örr's. da liegen welten dazwischen, ob ein örr-redakteur mal eine etwas linkere formulieren braucht im vgl zu einem ganzen netzwerk das vorsätzlich und ganz öffentlich in seiner daseinsberechtigung darauf angewiesen ist, menschen von langer hand aufzuregen, um die interaktion sprich mehr geld zu generieren. nein, örr sind nicht darauf angewiesen. das ist die de facto definition von örr. nicht vom markt abhängig, sondern von der gewichtigkeit der nachricht selbst. das ist natürlich auch etwas schwammig, aber besser als geld als alleinige und endgültige absolute in allen redaktionellen inhalten. @_zantetsuken_
The 'US Centrism' thing is even more obvious as a Canadian. Canada is literally right next door sharing over 4600 kms (2860 mi) of border with the US. We get US networks here. We get TV and streaming from the US. We get advertising from the US. But it's entirely one way. The most surreal example of it was when I was in Bellingham Washington - just 23 mi south of the border, and a clerk was surprised at my Canadian credit card. He asked if I was on vacation. When I asked why, he said that I was a long way from home. I pointed out that the Canadian border was just up the street (I pointed north :) ), he apologised and said he just moved to Bellingham from Texas. I can assure you that most Canadians know where the US border nearest to them is - whether they want to or not. :)
It's not *as* extreme, but I think all major nations have a bit of that effect and us smaller countries have to deal with that. Brexit happened in part because the UK (or more specifically England) still though it was the center of the world. France, China, India, Russia etc all have a bit of this effect. Of course no one are as extreme as the US in this regard...
@@Luredreier You are right, all smaller states have to "deal" with that different perception on the bordered countries. But the funny thing about the original post ist, that it doesn't even mention the fact, that even actually the US are the smaller state, Canada is still treated as it
would you believe that there are also "allegedly" high-educated folks who will tell you that New Mexico is a country and not a state... while a 7-11 clerk from Nevada, Arizona, etc., will mention having relatives in New Mexico state? yeah, we're being run by a bunch of idiots down here, so plz drop bombs of books on us about life universe and everything for the love of pancakes!
Do countries all over the world trade in your currency?. Do they watch your TV shows and look to your political leaders for guidance in gllobal conflicts? Do they rely on you spearheading the latest technological advancements? Do you have military bases, aircraft carriers and submarines all over the globe? If not then maybe you'll see why the world doesn't pay as much attention to you as they do to a political superpower that has shaped geopolitics for centuries. Don't get me worng, you guys are pretty chill. But on a day to day basis the US has a lot ore influence on my life than you guys do :)
One could also note that most german kids grow up watching kika which is the kids channel from ARD also having a news show called Logo! which is pretty similar to the Tagesschau just simplified for children. So german kids get educated pretty early with respect to whats going on in the world. Me for example: I remember Logo! reporting about the incident in Fukushima in 2011 and other things. So I think this already opens up the eyes towards the world outside germany and europe and is also a reason why many germans value this kind of news reporting so much.
I highly appreciate the fact that you actually pronounce all German abbrevations etc. in this video in German, as opposed to English or trying to translate everything directly. We need more multilinguistic videos on CZcams, honestly, including those directed at an English-speaking audience :)
I was in Canada when Notre Dame burned. It was all over the news in Germany while I was still running around blissfully unaware. It finally had like 30s screentime during the late news. It was such an odd experience, living in a bubble like that.
Yeah, but in this special case that's also because France is Germany's direct huge neigbour. They love to report about France here. That's not the case with Britain, Spain or Italy or our many other and little neigbour countries. They're rarely in the news, while about France even the most important laws, decisions and strategies are reported about on a regular basis here in Germany.
@@SamWinchester000I think it's because the Notre Dame is a world-famous cathedral, so of course people are interested in it, just like how they'd want to know if the Eiffel Tower collapsed.
@@SamWinchester000 That’s a good point. As a european you’re used to news from - well all over europe. The focus being only on the US (or in my case Canada) just felt very surreal. As if there’s nothing else going on in the world.
@@SamWinchester000 Yes, that might explain the large extend of news coverage. But Tagesschau will also neutrally cover the latest development in Sudan or whereever - while US media only covers that when US citizens are involved.
@@SamWinchester000 Sure about Germany sharing a special relationship with France, but to not report such a historical event about a worldwide known ancient cathedral burning still sounds very strange. I mean, French is even a common language in Canada and in the US, Disney had a movie with Notre Dame.
As a german I just always thought watching american or UK news was incredibly frustrating because all I wanted was a quick summary of everything that's going on instead of half-an-hour segments about one topic which might not even be "big" news 😅 Having lived in the UK for 5 years now I've realised that's not really a thing lol
As a UK citizen I do more-or-less trust the BBC (and the ITV) news for accuracy, however over the past few years the BBC has got very bland in its attempt to be 'unbiased' so I do perceive it as somewhat scared of the current government who do, after all, control the amount the BBC may charge for the 'licence' fee. They have also started to give long, magazine style reports on many UK subjects which I find rather odd as I believe the programme 'Newsnight' on BBC 2 was originally set up to do the in depth reporting to leave the BBC main news free to report headlines on more and wider spread major issues.
Yes, the BBC is also my choice to have a look from Germany over to you to see what's going on in the the UK. Our news tell the Main problems of the day from inside and outside, a bit of stock exchange and financial market, sports and weather in 15 minutes. And about other topics or to know more there are broadcasts of 40 or 50 minutes. But we have to search for this. To it is easier to watch about demonstrations, Brexit, crisis, King Charles or what ever on BBC. But our short news tell us that there is something going on so that we can do our own researches after realizing about the existance of circumstances. 🙈Sorry, de my English is a little bumpy after 20 years jüst listening And not speaking. 🙄🤷🏼♀️
I found BBC World to be doing exactly that. My experience is 20 years old, so no idea what's going on at the moment, but back then, we always used to navigate to BBC World when we were abroad and weren't able to watch the tagesschau. Actually found it to be way more international and to the point than the German broadcast, but then, they serve different audiences.
I remember being in the U.S. in the 90s trying to find out who won the elections in Germany and who might be my new chancellor when returning to Germany. I did not manage to find any international news. One of a series of big disappointments about life in the U.S.
I just looked at the Times Machine (the archive of the New York Times) and, if you wouldn’t find out on television how the election in Germany went, you would have been able to read about it in the New York Times the day after the election. In 1990 (both after the only free election in the German Democratic Republic and later that year in the first federal election in the reunified Germany), 1994, and 1998 a report about the German election featured prominently on the front page the day after the election.
@ACEsParkJunheeWreckedMeHard haha so true and the German news have the most of the time a littel art part like :" a women from (Canada / Denmark / Singapore/ Benin) make art from ( wood plastic or or or) and talk about ( what ever) I like the news from Germany. I stay a couple of months in the USA and was very disappointed ow useless the news are there.
Having grown up in the states I was completely oblivious to how narrow the news is in the US. When I went to Asia for school my eyes and brain were completely shocked at all the news sources available to me in the Philippines. Aside from the obviously Philippines news channels I could also watch Australian news ABC, Japan's NHK, France's TV5, The BBC, Korea's Arirang, German news, Singapore's CNA and of course CNN International. I also could watch Fox News and due to me being exposed to all these sources I discovered quickly how much a propaganda and brain-washing outfit Fox News is.
That is actually shocking. 😮 No wonder the average US Citizen thinks that the US is the center of the world and that there is nothing else out there. 😂
Another piece of trivia: The famous "gong" at the beginning is NOT a recording. The studio in Hamburg still uses a physical gong with a microphone pointed at it.
@@Zurkan0802A few years ago the main tv station (ARD) announced that they would replace the intro-sounds/music to "refresh" the format. The public feedback can be summarized as "can you f**king not??"
@@dertyp6833 Yes, it was. There's no way it would sound exactly the same every time, and the logistics necessary to have the audio lined up correctly for each show, just for it to be "authentic", would be a complete waste of money and effort. It's a funny idea though.
What could have been mentioned is that German newspapers on the other hand are privately owned and tend to have subtle directions. In Germany many people, besides watching news, also read a lot of newspapers, so this has to be taken into account. Although, to get several opinions on a topic, most people read multiple newspapers.
And this is another big contrast. In the US, almost all newspapers serve a single city region, so each newspaper has a near-monopoly like Tagesschau does. But in Germany newspapers many major newspapers are available nationwide so you get a much wider range of viewpoints.
@@g.b.5803 That's a helpful point but I think for this purpose we can include reading newspapers' websites and reading articles via social media, Google News, etc. Any method that exposes people to a variety of viewpoints and coverage.
Older American here. Just to say that what you are describing in the US started in the 80s with cable tv, if I am not mistaken. Before that, we had newsmen such as Walter Cronkite, who covered the news objectively in 15 minutes.
That is interesting. So the "contradiction", that Americans brought TV news to Germany after the war, that are "unamerican", isn't actually one. US-News did change a lot while German news didn't.
@@sosonolow5094 huh, so maybe that is part of the reason, why political debates are so unhinged these days? Contrary to what he said in the video, the far right is NOT trusting the Tagesschau. Parties like the far right AfD want to disassemble this format and the concept of publicly funded TV as a whole and there are a lot of people who agree to this, who aren't even on the far right political spectrum. We might see the German news landscape change in the same way yours changed in the 80s and it makes me sad.
@@HQbaracuda Ich hoffe nicht. Ich habe drei Jahre in Deutschland gewohnt und habe die Tageschau jeden Tag angeschaut und während Weltkrisen wie Covid bevorzuge ich immer noch die Tagesschau.
@@HQbaracuda theres a huge reason for that... despite claiming independance the councils that dictate the direction of ARD/GEZ are mostly politicans that try to earn money/further their own idealogy.. thinking the news in germany is without political influence is insane. Same thing with our public transport aka Deutsche Bahn. Just alot of politicans as bosses that try to claim that these institutes are without political influence but reality looks and feels alot diffrent and if you pay attention in the last ~10 years you will noticed a shift in discourse and how stuff is reported, which is a real shame.. what germany needs is a law to prevent politicans to work in stuff like that.
What I like about the presentation of news in German Television, as a German myself, is the emotional neutrality of the delivery. The spectators has to interpret the content of the news for themselves, without being influenced by the presentation too much. The scene with the guy whacking a table with a small axe is from a talkshow in the late 70's, not from a news broadcast.
@@nitrozeus951 That depends on what the viewer individually regards as 'left-wing'. Quite apart from the fact that the left-right scale is not complex enough for almost all political debates.
I lived in the US for nearly four years, and watching news there is crazy. It's extremely subjective, politicized, very emotional, and sometimes very hateful. I especially noticed this around political election times
To be honest, whenever I would come across bits of US news on SocialMedia I always assumed they were just comedy skits. I was completely taken off guard when I found out a few years ago.
Occasionally YT links me to US TV. What I see there is disgustingly "woke" and streamlined not to hurt any of the many minorities in the US. Unfortunately German TV is following in line and watching it is waste of time.
During election time in Germany, there are short tv spots for lots of political parties. Always with the disclaimer that the party is responsible for the content.
like in Germany...Look what they say about AfD ... A bunch of Lies,but the most people didnt ever listen to a Politican from this party,the only hear on the narrative of the media and the didnt talk with members or supporters from this party,cause the are told from the media not to speak with this "Nazis".....Nazi is everybody with a own opinion.
German journalist here, thanks for the great video, you are spot on with it. Still, I´d like to add that apart from Tagesschau there are other, more local focussed news formats on the networks, before and after the 8 pm slot. Also, like in the US, we have 24/7 news channels like n-tv, Welt, phoenix and also Tagesschau24 ;) So, you have a lot of choice. I do agree that the big part Tagesschau still plays ist due to the style of presentation and focus on the big stories. Maybe having only 15 minutes helps with that ;)
Wenn man bedenkt, das wir unglaublich viel Rundfunk zahlen und nicht imstande sind so großartige Dokumentation wie in NatGeo zu machen ist etwas peinlich. Ebenfalls peinlich ist die Tatsache, dass der Rundfunkrat größtenteils aus Parteifreunden und Mitgliedern besteht. Ist das nicht etwas bedenklich?
No fuzz, no banners, no bling-bling, more or less neutral. Just the information. That's what I'm there for. In the "superior" version of the Tagesschau (Tagethemen) the hosts are even allowed to smile and throw in ONE joke every other episode or so. Love it.
@@RogerKaptuniknichts kann 100% neutral sein. Dennoch ist die Tagesschau eine der Medien die zumindest versuchen einigermaßen ausgeglichen zu berichten
There's also a channel that is a project of two countries: Arte, a project from france and Germany and they both show a very interesting program in French and German.
Arte is a wonderful source of information, be it news, history, politics or any form of culture. I also like the 3sat channel for much of the same reason.
I cannot remember the name of the German journalist who said that news should be presented cool, but not cold. (I am paraphrasing because I couldn’t find the original quote yet.) For me, that is one essential aspect of good news reporting: Present *facts* in a calm and neutral manner (Americans might call that “boring”), don’t put your personal spin and feelings on it. Let the audience know about the facts and make of it what they will. News is not entertainment, nor should news be twisted into entertainment in the way U.S. outlets do it. At least that is my opinion in this matter.
Do you mean Hanns Joachim Friedrichs? That's who I found when I searched for the quote „Das hab’ ich in meinen fünf Jahren bei der BBC in London gelernt: Distanz halten, sich nicht gemein machen mit einer Sache, auch nicht mit einer guten, nicht in öffentliche Betroffenheit versinken, im Umgang mit Katastrophen cool bleiben, ohne kalt zu sein. Nur so schaffst du es, daß die Zuschauer dir vertrauen, dich zu einem Familienmitglied machen, dich jeden Abend einschalten und dir zuhören.“ in einem Interview mit dem Spiegel. In the same interview he also said something along the lines of 'you're going to have a hard times as a reporter, if you aren't ready to reveal the world's soul'
I heard it said that the only time the late Walter Cronkite gave in to emotion was when President Kennedy was killed. An old clip shows Cronkite taking off his glasses and wiping away a tear. Where have people like him gone?
@@einwildesrehchen3862 Looks like CZcams removed my original response in which I had included a URL pointing to the original Spiegel interview, so let me repeat my "thank you for reminding me of Hajo Friedrichs; how could I forget."
This does only work in theory. Reporting calmly about putin's atrocities in ukraine downplays the dramatic situation. To report this neutrally would almost be pro-Putin propaganda. by the way, the german media did not report on this as calmly as usual. They were very upset. And a lot of pro-putin people mentioned that the ARD failed their neutral stance they had until then. In my opinion, they did the right thing since neutrality does not really exist. All news is propaganda in one way or another.
Let‘s be clear: Germans love stuff being dry. Dry humor, dry talking, dry facts. And I learned to love this as well. Drama is just so exhausting. PS: FOX news is just embarrassing to watch, srsly
I agree with everything except dry humor. In Germany humor is very rare. And if humor exists, then very cheap. Just take a look at German comedies 🤦🏼♀️
As a german, it always felt very weird seeing American News. US News feel very emotional and subjective, making me trust the news less. Tagesschau is objective and fits everything you need into 15 minutes. I personally find their way of presenting the news very comforting. After a long day you tune into Tagesschau, hear everything you need to know presented by a calm voice and right after that you can enjoy the best shows or movies of the evening.
tagesschau is extremely leftwing and def not objective 😂 its basically like cnn and a lot of the presented news are political manipulation of the viewers. If important events dont fit the narrative they simply get ignored or not even mentioned. Maybe they present it with a calm voice and without emotion but this makes it even more dangerous for non critical viewers.
Tagesschau is objective 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 No srsly you probably believe the German economy is great and that the per capita rate of getting shot isn't higher than in the US
And it seems a weird irony that Americans also trust their local, more informative news stations more, yet still the large channels remaining screaming and subjective. _And_ still have an audience with that. No wonder it's a small step between subjective and demagogical.
Four times the population, yet one fourth of news viewership. Then again, considering how bad the news is in the US, maybe it's not so bad that nobody is watching. 🙂
@@jennyh4025 During my USA visits before the Internet became a thing, my salvation was shortwave radio. Deutsche Welle in particular. I don't remember if BBC World Service is available in mainland USA?
It's just because you guys picked up the internet much earlier. Trust for media is non existent in Germany with young people and social media replaces it slowly.
We also grow up watching the news. There are extra kids-news channels that explain most of the topics in kids friendly ways with animations and other words. When i was in school everyone watched „Logo“ on Kika, one of the most popular kids channels. I loved that! And it teached me important and interesting facts and that i can trust what is said on tv in the public news.
@@demiurgen not to uncritically consume isn't the same as making use of public resources. The news aren't perfect, nothing is, but they are very very well researched. Thanks to their budget, staff and due to them not needing to sensationalize their stories (due to being tax funded there is no need to rely on ads).
@@demiurgen Of course I know that people can be wrong, even the biggest most trustworthy news channels. But they’re right most of the times. I can still do my own research additionally or have a different opinion (if it’s a matter of opinions) But that doesn’t mean that you can never trust anything on television! That’s such a huge spectrum of channels, journalists, redactions and so on. And they’re not trying to lie or manipulate. Maybe some of them, but the huge majority doesn’t. I think your comment is kinda negative and arrow minded because television is not just one person or something like that…
There are some interesting things: Sometimes a topic can be so big it doesn't fit into those 15 minutes but it might still be of national importance. In this case the Tagesschau will be followed by a "Brennpunkt" (focus point), a longer format 10-30 minute section focused on only a single news topic. The Tagesschau will still contain a summary and then refer people to the Brennpunkt. The original program will be pushed back respectively. This happens around once or twice a month. Also starting at 20:00 public TV stations are no longer permitted to show advertisements. Therefore the most expensive slot for TV advertisements on a regular day is the slot right before Tagesschau to my knowledge.
@@XxSchraeubchenxX she is, I adore her.❤️ However, in the video this is presented as an example for soft news within a regular Tagesschau. Just wanted to clarify this for non-Germans ✌️
Yup, the Tagesschau is huge, and it used to be even much bigger back in the days when linear TV was more important than it is today, in the age of podcasts. Up until at least the late 1990s, it was even considered rude to call people on the phone between 8pm and 8:15pm. And I never heard about that App before. Then again, I can't really imagine renting a scooter, either.
„Wer ruft denn während der Tagesschau an?!“ said my Mom every time when the phone rang between 20:00 and 20:15 😄 But that was rare, because everybody in Germany knew that you don’t disturb anyone during Tagesschau.
Never hire a scooter - like a toy, left wherever you might fall over it ... Had one in front of our entrance for days, before I tried to confront "them who own this obstacle" - They asked for a lot of private information (had the address and e-mail already) and I told them: "Sorry, I do not want to rent - but if you do not remove that silly scooter from our entrance I could try to inform the police." Next day it was gone😜
It boils down to this: US news media doesn't actually exist to give anyone the news. That would be "too boring" in their words. They exist to draw in as many viewers as possible and hope those viewers stick around through a barrage of adverts. It's as simple as that. You can ask anyone (like me) who has worked in the industry. Money is all that matters. They just so happen to put out something that vaguely has the same outline as "news" enough to dupe people into thinking it is. But at the end of the day, it all amounts to tabloid journalism. Everyone from Fox to CNN, OAN to NPR, Sinclair to independent local.... it's all the same: carefully-crafted emotional manipulation.
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You boiled it down pretty well, but it boils down further: news media is all fully commercial (with the "exception" of the PBS) in the US, and thus it's all about the money.
I think an interesting to note is the existence of News for kids ( logo! Nachrichten), in which they explain the circumstances in a way that children can understand. Also while the publicly funded shows like Tagesschau exist and are watched by all sides of the political spectrum I think it's worth mentioning that it's different when it comes to newspapers. Mainly the Bild- Zeitung is I think read by more people of the right.
I loved to watch logo! Also worth mentioning, they start at 19:50 and are 10min long, so me and my siblings would watch logo and then our parents could switch directly to Tagesschau. Sometimes we stayed and watched it with them and got eased into watching "real" news that way.
I hate "logo". It simplifies facts and subjects too much. The children are not only served the facts but the ready-made opinions concerning those. And it doesn't even help a lot. When my daughter and her classmates went to elections for the first time at the age of 16, they had absolutely no clue.
In general Axel Springer stands for the more conservative news (Welt, Bild, etc.), whereas Zeit and Süddeutsche Zeitung are more center-left. But I like to mention that (except of Bild) it is way less polarizing in germany than in the US
The cable channel Nickelodeon has Nick News, which has the same conceit; it originally ran from 1992 to 2015, anchored by former NBC News correspondent Linda Ellerbee, and it was revived in 2020 as a series of one-hour specials that focus on specific topics, in the vein of Germany's _Brennpunkt_.
In Germany we also have the "Tagesthemen" on ARD and the "Heute Journal" on ZDF a little later in the evening, in which both channels each report 30 minutes in more detail about daily news and these programs are also popularly watched.
@@etuanno “Die Anstalt” is a political cabaret and satire format, but in its own way they report better on the background to certain topics than the news formats. But imo, the quality is unfortunately variable, especially among the invited guest cabaret artists.
I haven´t watched TV in 10 years. First because I hate this government-backed bull shit. Second because I don´t even get the signal. Still these government-jerks extort € 18.60 from me each month.
For good reason, Tagesschau is named ‚Tagesschau‘ and not ‚Tagesshow‘. I like your translation ‚review of the day‘ which it actually is. They present news to present news, not for business purpose. They are funded quite well anyway and don’t depend on it.
@@bugfisch7012Uhm aehm actually - in itsd roots it used to be a somewhat independent news show but the Nazis centralized it in 1940 and made it into a propaganda show.
@@m.l.9385 Well, yes and no - there were several formats with the same concept, some of em were called Wochenschau as well. Two of em, I think - Fox's tönende Wochenschau and the Tobis Wochenschau. Last one was founded in '38, so I guess there is a propagandistic background as well, since basicly all media would have gone through the ministry of propaganda at that point ;) They all did unified into the Deutsche Wochenschau in 1940 as an act of "Gleichschaltung". The Wochenschau itself was allways a propaganda show.
@@bugfisch7012 My point was - that Wochenschauen and the name Wochenschau existed long beforehand (like back 1914 or so). Making it a propaganda show came much later with the Nazi regime.
As a German I’m happy that our news gives us facts instead of opinions/agendas. And when there is an opinion piece it is clearly identified as such and always delivered without inflammatory language.
Sadly nowadays more and more people, especially due to extremist manipulation, actually believe that the news are heavily biased and trying to indoctrinate, while they are themselves falling victim to exactly that just by another entity. It's almost a religious distrust, which is immune to facts and molded solely through appealing to emotion and the good old "us vs. them" mentality. Which is very scary and reminiscent of certain historical societal landscapes.
I'm German and I was shocked when I saw American news for the first time. To me, it looks overly and unnecessarily exaggerated. Like mentioned in the video, the focus is more on entertainment than on being factual and informative. American news feel incredibly unprofessional and low standard, and I'm not surprised why "the stupid American" is a stereotype that exist.
I agree. I'm American, and when I visited my sister in the States, I noticed the exaggerations and use of stock footage on the news. This hit home right away when, in Chicago, mind you, a projected inch or so of snow flurries in January was a lead feature introduced with snow-storm footage from a storm somewhere sometime. When I was in Germany, I didn't have a television, and listened to NDR and WDR as well as'AFN (US armed forces network) on the radio and read newspapers and newsmagazines for my news. Now, living in the States, I still don't have a television and get my news from NPR (which includes BBC), PBS newshour once a week online, and die Zeit online. I also occasionally watch Fox, NBC, and CNBC online when a particular theme interests me. I also read NYT, the Wall Street Journal, and USA Today. For local news, I use NPR, my colleagues, and the library's copies of a couple local and regional papers.
@@Frank-wh8cm Who do you mean by we??? Germans? Yes, we do not have that in abundance. We have it, when it is really breaking NEWS worth mentioning. A car chase doesn't fall under that category.
@@Kivas_Fajo I have never seen a german TV show being paused for ANYTHING, not a war, not no chancellor vote, NOTHING. That is great. You know why? Because Newsoutlets always have journalists in the background researching and preparing an extra show, like "Brennpunkt" or "ZDF heute Spezial" with ONLY researched and double and triple checked news in them. In germany its not important how fast you can get informed but how right the information is and i love that...
As a German, Tagesschau is an absolute institution and has been for all my life, that of my parents and even my grandparents. The German political spectrum is very wide and nuanced, yet seemingly everyone appreciates their reporting. I love how "dignified" and to-the-point the presentation is too. With the hectic presenting style of private news I always immediately shut off because it just comes across as sensationalist and at times even populist, hinting at some kind of hidden agenda. Tagesschau also has the most beautiful news studio I've ever seen anywhere. They don't use a green screen, so you can see the reflections of the imagery on the furniture, and the camera movement is fully automated. All that together with that epic intro music is just... *chef's kiss*
Juuunge du bist so ein Opfer. Also nur, weil Nachrichten neutraler und weniger übertrieben/amerikanisch präsentiert werden soll das eine gute Quelle sein? Wenn man 5 Tage 24/7 vom der Beerdigung der Queen berichtet, anstatt zB von Lithium Minen mit Kinderarbeitern ist dass natürlich auch eine beeinflussung. Red dir bloß nicht ein dass die neutral sind.
One thing that makes ARD such a good source of information is its worldwide network of correspondents who gather information abroad. There are studios in twelve other European countries, in four African countries, six studios in Asia, three studios in the USA, one in Mexico and one in Brazil.
Your joking. The ARD and ZDF are just the propaganda channel and paid by the current Left Wing government to frame and demonize the only opposition party AFD which is trying to stop the mass invasion from middle eastern and African migrants into the German social systems and the destruction of the German economy and that wants peace negotiations between Ukraine and Russia.
Thank You for that, on the point! I´ve studied journalism in Austria, and for a long time the anglo-saxon manner of presenting news was an idol. Think about Sorkin´s "News Room". The situation now in US is disapointing, actually the founders should be ashamed of that. One topic you didn´t mention: Ads are forbitten during ARD-News (and by the way, because I´m Austrian: during ORF-News as well). As mentioned in comments before: News never ever should be driven by commercial intrerests! It´s a public good.
@@stielimusterman3066 you should learn who is funding the public service broadcasters. Tip: Its not the state. Thats why the far-right hate them, as they cant control them, even when in power.
@@stielimusterman3066but it's not government funded. While since 2013 the GEZ is a tax on paper, the government has no controll about the allocation and has no way of taking away the funds. The news are meant to be "Staatsfern" State distanced. The news are going through a committee where members of every party and socially relevant groups have a seat (the churches and unions for example). There were multiple occurrences where the "Bundesverfassungsgericht" Federal Constitutional Court purposefully stopped the government of having influence on the Tagesschau. In 2014 for example it decided that the government had too big of a part in the committee, and that it was "Verfassungsfeindlich" unconstitutional. They ruled that no more than a third of the committee are allowed be "Staatsnah" close to the government. There are numerous instances of programmes payed for by the Rundfunkgebühr (formerly GEZ) that not only heavily criticise the German government but a number of other European governments and their decisions. The Tagesschau tries to be as unbiased as possible, refraining from any kind of judgement, which can often be interpreted as cold, and if you would watch it you would know that. And the Tagesschau being unbiased is very much contrasted by very biased programs that lean left and right, or open discussion panels aired between people from the whole range of the political spectrum. The system we have in place is by far not perfect, and we have alot of unnecessary shows that are eating a hole into the Rundfunkbeitrag, but the government isn't at fault there. That's bad management.
@@rallion1545 There are surveys that reveal that 70% of the people working for the state television are in support of the Green party, which means they are overrepresented at least by the factor 4 and that is reflected by their "reporting". They literally denounced all critics of the C...virus mearures as "C...virus-deniers", called them "blind gut" and tried to frame them as right-wing extremists and you're telling me they are trying to be as objective as possible?!
Here in Norway we have Dagsrevyen, which roughly means the same as Tageschaue and the news are delivered in a similar fashion. The differences are that Dagsrevyen is sent 19:00 opposed to 20:00 and the duration is a little longer, at the cost of bringing less important news. Later in the evening (21:00, 23:00) there are two shorter and briefer news shows.
I think a huge difference is that ARD and ZDF don't need to make money (at least not as their ultimate goal). This means they don't have to fight for audiences, and thus don't have to be more spectacular, more entertaining, more exciting. They can concentrate on reporting news, they don't need to sell them or make them attractive.
As someone who works in news braoadcasting in Germany: We DO have a couple of news-only channels: N-TV (associated with RTL), N24 (associated with Pro7/Sat1) and Phoenix (associated with the public station ZDF) They’re just a bit less watched than the main stations they’re associated to.
When I watched American news for the first time I was disappointed. All I had seen was a cheap opinion show. Where were the news? Behind a paywall? This is an aspect of privately owned media that was not mentioned in the video: they will produce it as cheaply as possible. One expert who tells his opinion over and over is cheaper than actual reporting or buying news stories from a news agency.
The reporter German news outlets send to the US is actually from my home town. Many Germans associate countries with the reporters that work there. In the case of the US it's Elmar Thevissen.
It surprised me that the video's creator picked a single event in a single non-news show from more than 50 years ago to make the point that German TV is not always calm and collected. Then again, it speaks for a certain level of decorum in Germany's TV that they had to dig up such an obscure part of ancient TV history.
@@MercenaryPen "blurred" is putting it very mildly ... as seen by the example given here where a murrican "news"-reader in the "news"-section leads up to her news about shrinkflation with a sarcastic "thank you mister president" ... irrational attempt to blame the hated president even before the actual news unrelated to the presidency (oreos having less filling) is mentioned ... its pure insanity on murrican "news" channels and getting reports on facts without heavy political bias in the delivery is practicly impossible on US TV these days including the "news" segments, no matter on which side the channel sees itself.
Arte Journal is also good alternative to the Tagesschau if you want a slightly different flavour. The time it airs is 19:20 in Germany. The main differences are that its 20mins instead of the 15 on ARD, the perspective is more european/french so its not exactly the same topics, some topics get more or less time than on the tagesschau and instead of Sport there are news about concerts, plays or other art related stuff at the end.
The best part is that arte is a cooperation of SWR (the ARD branch covering the states of Baden-Württemberg and Rhienland-Pfalz) and France Televisions.
this is one of my pet peeves about America. You have to make an extra effort to get news, and most people do not have the time, the interest or the skills to find relevant information. This is why fake news are so easy to spread in the U.S. I recall being an AuPair in the U.S. in the eighties and watching the news. A ten second clip on some really big national news (I don‘t recall what exactly) was followed by a three minute report on the poor dogs in New York which are suffering in the summer heat… In the news! It is not surprising that Americans , generally, are disconnected and oblivious of what is going on. I hate Germans groaning about paying GEZ. I gladly pay it in order to have competent news programs. I, too, watch the ARD Tagesschau daily. I grew up in a household that thought it very poor etiquette to call someone between 8 and 8.15 for that very reason, even… On the radio, I love DLF, as they have really good in-depth analyses of politics, social issues etc.
"I hate Germans groaning about paying GEZ" The problem is, that only a fraction of this "tax" is actually going into news and journalism. Most of the money goes to sport licences, pensions of employers and multiple structures that could easily be reduces while losing no quality at all. The GEZ could be 5€/month if cutting all this expensive costs and still deliver the same quality news. Thats what people get angry at the system.
@@LegioXXI I think this is what gets the minority of angry people angry at the system specifically. My experience says that ESPECIALLY those who care mostly for sports and soft news are against GEZ. But, you‘re right. I‘d also be in favor of less GEZ Gebühren if it meant less sports expenses and even more/better journalism. In addition, I think costs for pensions etc. CAN be closed by other means, but I‘d hate to have the public channels being constantly interrupted by adds as the private channels are. I‘d rather watch a news program, discussion, analyses etc. WITHOUT a constant barrage of what I should purchase…
I am of the opinion that GEZ is just too much for an income-decoupled enforced "flat tax". Especially for the lowest 20% of income earners, 20 euros a month makes a difference. And primarily that the absolute majority of it is not spent on the constitutional duty of public broadcasting - to inform and teach the public. But instead on crime dramas from every village, Volksmusik or sports licensing. The system in and of itself? I´m happy to support. Arte and DLF rock hard if we´re talking about well-sourced informative media. "Tatort Hintertupfingen" or Konrad Silbereisen...much less so. If I had a choice no penny of my income would go to soccer - bad enough you cant escape that boring and completely irrelevant stuff every two years when bigger tournaments happen.
If ARD/ZDF would not shove most of the GEZ up the asses of some overpaid big wigs (who often are linked to high ranked politicans in mainstream political parties), or blow it on massive glass palace HQs, and run dozens of niche channels that often share the media assets (but all have their full HQ with no shared staff), a cut back to the old around 8 Euro/Month that were charged back in the day (around 15y ago) would be possible. ARD/ZDF collaborate on a lot of big events, so a common team out there would be fine. Also, ARD runs the '3.' (third), regional programs. And usually, ALL of those are on site, too, in addition to ARD and ZDF.
The problem with news in america for me is that they spent most of its coverage about a car acident on main street or a brawl in the local pub or a person drowned in the local swimming pool rathen than war in the ukraine and israel. Most news in Amerika are terrible local.
It is the way the news are conveyed which disturbed me in the US. I remember when I was in the US in 2007 and there was a shooting at a university. I tried to find out what really had happened, but all I could find were recordings of circling helicopters and crying people. I eventually gave up searching for information and called my German family and asked for information which I got. I was more informed about the details than the rest of the group who hadn't phoned home. I found that rather disturbing.
The „Rundfunkbeitrag“ is actually something quite controversial here in Germany. Because it keeps raising again and again, while it’s not really clear where the money is going and the program isn’t really getting better. Sometimes the costs for some productions are beyond explanation, like over 200k for a talk show episode where you don’t need to build expensive backgrounds, masks, outfits, special effects, etc. It appears like they could stop producing new content, or stop broadcasting entirely, and the Rundfunkbeitrag would still raise. Also, the way how it's colleted is disliked by many people. It's basically like a de-facto tax, but it's not rally a tax by law.
To put this into perspective. We have roughly 42M households, 2.8M are exempt (unclear whether this is a head or household count) and yet over a million people got visited by the bailiff over this
You still should mention that it is better to have a publicly funded network, even if not everything ist going well (I mean, where is this the case at all?), than not having it. I mean we can see in other countries what happens is media is biased towards political players and hard-winged lobby organizations.
@@krahlos_ Of course it's better to have it. That there is something wrong with something doesn't mean that we should get rid of it entirely most of the time.
@@krahlos_ haha, as If ARD was Not biased :D Alle the important Guys managing ARD etc are politicants from an govermental Party, Opposition does really hard (Impossible) to get some Kind of Representation in the news
As a side note, here in Switzerland (geran speaking part), it is very similar as in Germany, except our tlmeslot is 19:30-20:00 - so in the old times with linear tv, you could append german news afterwards 😹.
The same here in Austria, main news start at 1930-1950. In the past, we had just two channels and these first main news were shown on both of them. It makes sense to combine then different news channels from neighbouring countries or the "international" version on 3SAT or ARTE. I would get mad if I only had the news channels of the US::
What I dislike most about American TV - including the "news" - is that there is an ad break every 10 minutes. How can you focus on or follow anything if it's interrupted by ads so frequently? I mean the only message you gonna take home is to go shopping soon.
missed an important part: no. freaking. advertisements. The ARD Tagesschau comes without any advertisements. no banners in the view, no clips, not any brand logo (unless part of a news article). not even two seconds before or after the news. That makes watching the Tagesschau a very well structured and focused stream of information to consume. when i see 5 minutes of any US TV broadcast i want to shoot myself. it is so annoyingly presented, visually cluttered, noisy and frequently interrupted.
Here in Italy is mostly the same as in Germany except the news bulletin (we call it "telegiornale" or "TG") airs at different times and is read by different speakers on the 3 main channels of the national television (but the actual news are the same), at around 19:00, 20:00 and 20:30 respectively. That way you don't risk missing it. The different channels then usually feature different special segments after the main one such as "TG2 Parlamento" on RAI2 (special from the parliament) or TGR on RAI3 (regional news, different for each Italian region).
My honest experience from when I lived in the US is that they simply don't have any news on the big TV stations. They have a lot of entertainment shows using news as an easy way to get something to talk about. I knew less about what happened not only in the rest of the world, but even the US, when I lived there than I do living in Sweden. Experience the US version of news made me understand why so many americans have so little knowledge of the world, including the us.
Thanks for the video :) I'm german, personally always watching a mix of the "Heute" news at 7pm and "Tagesschau" at 8pm. I'm also occasionally watch stuff like Fox News, can't stand it for very long tho, cause it just feels so chaotic and in a sense noisy and stressful, if that makes sense. Maybe it's just my german brain not being used to that, but still, I'm always thankful for our non polarising and all in all pretty neutral german news reports here on TV.
Hoho, da sprch der Weihnachtsmann. Leben Sie unter einem Stein? To US readers: Dont believe the lies, Tagesschau & co is everything but neutral. The headquarters of the channels are filled with governing party people. Its seen in the propaganda news. Its North Korean like. Dont believe the lies.
Thanks for the entertaining video! I dont know how this works in America but here in Germany most of those local channels make local and or countrywide relevant documentaries about pretty much everything. So they dont just get paid from the public to inform on the news but also to educate viewers in different topics. Espacially the NDR makes some really good ones i can recommend. 👌
One of the specific reasons as to why germans trust the press more is also a result of the "German Press Code" coming from the German Press Council, which lays out fundamentals how journalism has to be done if a news source agreed to it. They do have an official english translation of the guidelines. "Respect for the truth, preservation of human dignity and accurate informing of the public are the overriding principles of the Press."
It's only formally valid for newspapers (and tabloids like "Bild" don't really care). -The guidelines of the public TV stations are set in the states' laws establishing them and for private television in the media laws of the states. -Which is also important to note that the press and media laws are state laws, so that the central gouvernment don't get any influence on them
So then why do they violate their own principles by for instance interviewing their own damn staff member or accepting videos of radical leftist anti-democratic groups i.e. antifa?
2:02 the numbers are crazy when you compare them. 330 million people in the USA and 83 million in germany. yet number 1 news station in the USA has 1 million less dayli viewer than 3rd place of germany
As an ARD consumer for nearly 60 years now I can confirm: Your video is a piece of good work! 👍 As a high frequent traveler through your homeland (till 2015) I can say that for my proof there is not a lot news in your News. 15 minutes Tagesschau normally show 10 to 15 videos to different themes. Plus a couple of short messages by reading.
In Germany we have the State Media Treaty for public broadcasters. It must be reported neutrally and the news must be verified before it is published. Comments and opinions must be marked. Occasionally there are surprising things on the Tagesschau or similar programs. Caren Miosga stood on the table as she reported the news of Robin Williams' death and said "Oh Captain my Captain" from the film "Dead Poets Society".
You mean the same State Media that denounced all critics of crown-virus measures as "crown-virus deniers“ and constantly deletes comments on their channels that question their politically correct narrative, if they are enabled at all?? Sooo neutral, credible and democratic lmao...
The two party thing in America is something that is hard to wrap my head around in general. From an outside perspective it sometimes seems like America is at war with itself at all times. Over here left and right have as much of a different opinion on matters as over there, but it feels like how someone is aligned politically doesn't decide who you're friends or associated with as much. Someone has to be on the very extreme ends of the spectrum and very vocal about it constantly for me to feel like I should maybe not hang out with them as much.
But it is even stranger than you have suggested. In America there is no left and right. You have a slightly right-of-center party , the Democrats, and a right-to-the-very-right party, the Republicans. Although some of the universities have international status with highly respected standards, the American dream for most Americans, many of whom have to work in two jobs, is a total myth. There is a lot to like about America, but its infrastructure would put some 3rd world countries to shame.
It used to be two big parties in (West)Germany, too. But:It used to be the rule, that the number of party menbers in redactions had to be balanced. And when the BR that was quite CSU-loaded tried to censor something by not airing the commin First Programme from their transmitters the ZDF aired the ARD's First Programme on their channels in Bavaria instead of their own one. (They didn't like a joke about the Bavarian Prime Minister) So the BR and the CSU were basically ridiculing themselves by that move...🤭😂
Oh bullcrap. People are extremely judgmental about politics here. The only place I ever felt that they don't give a crap about politics was Japan. Germany is really judgmental. It starts from the way you describe certain words and goes all the way to how you feel about certain parties, about le pen, Trump etc. It is actually worse than in the US. Because in the US no one is going to lose their job for voting republican. There is a large amount of people that vote for them. So they don't mind being associated with them. But in Germany no one wants to be associated with the far right so everyone does their absolute best to push their political opponents into this box called the far right and any person will just completely give up their own values to not be pushed into that box. It is a very dangerous habit and it shows Germany didn't learn much from its past at all.
@@ksmyth999 How are the democrats even remotely centrist or slightly right? They are pro abortion, anti gun, pro immigration, and support the rights of minorities. That is more left than right.
Consider how radio is organized in Europe vs the US. US radio is weird to me. It seems US radio stations don't have a real name compared to European radio stations, also, it seems that most US news stations are local or at least focused on a specific area and a lot more talk. Germany and Europe generally has national and state level news from both private and publicly funded sources that generally mostly play music with news one time at the full hour that's broken down into 5-10 minutes like TV news.
Also, we shouldn’t forget a huge part of news media in Germany: and that’s radio stations and newspapers. There’s so many different types of other news media, with different political views and more factual or more personal statements. That’s what makes it interesting and a „full package“
Yeah I usually switch on BR24 (früher BR 5) and they do a good job with news. Always weird if I tell my friends not from Germany that I still regularly listen to radio broadcasts)
Great Video. I think the reason why Americans are often disliked around the world (especially in Europe) is that many Americans think the US is the center of the universe. This is most remarkable in Europe about which most Americans seem to know nothing although the EU is one of the closest ally of the US
it's not like everyone in Germany watches these different channels, they are regional for different parts of germany. They have all there own news studio, but once a day they all show Tagesschau for the big picture.
What’s your main source for news?
All kinds of sources:
TV: Tagesschau, Heute
Radio: Several stations including pure news channels
CZcams: Several independent news outlets like The young turks, David Pakman, Brian Tyler Cohen.
Web: USNewsOn that streams Fox News, OANN, MSNBC and CNN
Newspapers: local newspaper,
Online Newspaper resources: paid subscriptions to FAZ, Die Zeit, New York Times
All the news from the "Öffentlich Rechtlichen". That's why I gladly pay for it. I often listen to "Deutschlandfunk Nachrichten" in the car or in the evening when preparing dinner so that I´m up to date.
Generally a mix between Tagesschau, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Süddeutsche Zeitung and the Guardian. Trying to get different perspectives to broaden my horizon.
For me its overall the Tagessschau too, beside other news outlets. The public offerings are especially independent and fact based. The right wing activists wants to abolish them all first - their arguments is ...well they are forced to pay for it.
@@TheEluminatorhave you been looked at strangely while buying FAZ and SZ at the same time? Because I have.
The Jugendwort is incredibly important!
Nobody says it… but just the fact that that lady is saying it every year is being celebrated by people all across Germany
i am glad that 40 years after my childhood friends pronounced Goofy 'gofi' the word goofy finally exists here in germany.
It´s becomming a Tradition like watching "Dinner for One" on New Year's Eve
of course we do you goofy ahh
One of the top 10 used clips is her saying "sus"
„Geringverdiener“ xD
Naaah you did not call “das Jugendwort” less important? Susanne Daubner announcing it is so iconic, it’s literally one of the reasons people even vote. 😂
Yaaasss! Facts! Susanne is the cutest!
@@Brattysquid She's terrible.
@@str.77 you are now banned from the internet. Pls turn off your device and hand it to your next Bürgeramt. Nobody calls Susanne Daubner terrible!
Nein she is not @@str.77
@@str.77 nuh uh >:(
The most shocking fact is how few people actually watch the news in the US. Germany is so much smaller but 10 times more people actually watching the news
It makes sense.. The more "sided" towards left or right or more specifically the news programs are the less interesting is to watch news for political reason. Cuz yall know what they will say who they will blame. The less "sided" the more interesting and informative the news will be
Looking at the fractions is more extreme, like every 8th german watches the tagesschau not once, but daily on average. The numbers in the US are tiny compared to that.
Ironically, even if 100% were watching FOX "News", people would be LESS informed than without watching the news at all.
That is not true. Only people over 60 years of age still follow the Tagesschau as their prime source of information.
All others know that it has a strong bias towards the left and it will provide you only with information they think is important.
And mostly it's less information but more opinions.
So while many people in Germany still watch the Tagesschau they now see it more as a suggestion to what to look up in the internet after for more perspectives of all angles.
@@SirJbstlGenZ is educated by tik tok. You achieve similar effects when you have a goat as teacher
German here. News is about serious stuff. Why would you think serious stuff should be reported in an entertaining way? That's the worst way to report the news. News should be serious. News should be boring. At least the way it is delivered. That makes sure that when you feel something, you know for sure it's because of the news itself and not because of the way it is delivered.
If you want to be entertained and see big bang boom, watch some MCU at 20:15.
Exactly! US 'news' look like constant propaganda to me, as a German.
The more "unimportant" news in the German news is a tradition. Susanne Daubner reads traditionally the "youth word of the year" and because of her unemotional pronounciation and her, not being the target group for fancy words like "sus", "goofy" etc. makes her a meme in the German CZcams. German Creators use these short clips in their videos and Susanne Daubner absolutely lives for this. That's so charming ❤️
And therefore, Susanne has more personality than all the news personalities from FOX and CNN combined. The impish grin, when she opens the envelope every time, is more than enough proof.
Wyld.
She failed to demonstrate the meaning of "cringe" because her delivery was too based.
The parts where she reads out these candidates is NOT part of the 20pm Tagesschau.
Belguim and the Netherlands do that to. But our news is longer, incl sports 30min.. but without sport also easily 20 min. After the sports, it is common to end with something light, to help a bit balance all the often heavy news before :-). Like a a cute animal born in the zoo, word of the year, or the day of ... if its not something to polerising, and some nice to see action to ask attention for that theme :-)
Maybe to demonstrate how big the institution of the Tagesschau is in Germany:
In a small town there was a church, that rang its bells every day sharp at 8pm. The neighbors of the church complained to the local city council because the ringing of the bells disturbs watching the Tagesschau. The city council held this for pretty reasonable and had the ring time of the church move to 7.45pm. You gotta love Germany
Echt jetzt? 😳 Krass. War aber bestimmt nicht in Bayern, oder?
Den Schwaben würde ich sowas zutrauen. Und dem eher unreligiösen Norden sowieso. Aber da hört man Kirchenglocken meist eh nicht stündlich.
@@katrincarstens5125HALLO! Bloß weil wir im Norden an das Spaghetti-Monster und den kosmischen Lieferservice glauben sind wir doch nicht unreligiös. 😉😘😊
Love this. Greetings from Norway. :)
@@boonamai8926Köln ist aber auch nicht der Norden.
@@LupoFCS04 Aber ganz sicher auch nicht der Süden.
I used to work for a TV graphics company that had many American customers. I was surprised by the insane amount of extra "information" on screen during the news: banners, tickers, Picture in Picture, flashing graphics, etc. The news looks more like a '90s internet website
Yeah, the entire presentation of US news feels a bit... trashy to me. The visuals and the audio evoke the feeling of a lower quality compared to Tagesschau or ZDF Heute Journal - without taking actual content into account.
@@faultier1158
Absolutely...!!!
"news" for USians is just another sales channel.
could be because they are more like 24/7 news channels which need to have some action on screen so people stay there longer. The main news source (Tagesschau) has its own channel which is 24/7 but the people focus on just the 8:00 - 8:15 pm news. There is no reason to switch to another channel. You know what you get there: important global and political news, then sports, than weather and everything in an very fact based unemotinal way. It's like someone telling you "Good evening, today the marsians invaded earth, 200 million people dead. And now the weather."
information bad
I‘ve lived in America for half a year - And even though I don’t have epilepsy, I thought I was going crazy with all those blinking lights, almost screaming news personalities, picture in picture, and headlines everywhere. Coming back to Germany and watching the news here was refreshing
Idiocracy incoming
german news is propaganda bs. fopr example he israel "war" (its a genocide)
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It should be mentioned that ARD Tagesschau not only reports the news but also does the research globally, based on 28 studios all over the world, featuring one of the largest networks of correspondants / reporters.
And they have their own TV channel "Tagesschau24" on which they are able to broadcast news all the time
how do you know? u German?
@@ordeuzI am german and I know this. Also, any English speaking person can research this
@@ordeuzhe's right
While you mentioned it, it beats repeating: ARD does not rely on advertising or sponsors for funds. Thus it does not have the pressure to sensationalise and dramatize the news. I think that is the biggest issue with most other media around the world. "who pays for the news" determines how the news is shaped.
no ads.
That's the German trick. It's fucking refreshing not seeing ads every five minutes.
I mean you basically pay a subscription, better be without ads XD
@@traum1693 The sad thing is that the German subscription based programme still shows ads all the time.
You currently pay 18,36 € per month for "no ads". German public television is a money swamp. Income from the broadcasting contribution increased slightly again in 2022, to around 8.57 billion euros. That is the GDP of small countries.
"no ads." ... lol ... there are ads!
@@michaelb1964but there are none in the news. And after Primetime there are no ads at all. All ads are between two different shows, and do not interrupt a running show. That's an incredible difference to private broadcasters who stream ads every 15 minutes for 5 to 7 Minutes in Germany. Or 2 minutes every 5 Minutes in the US
"you get the sense that the US is the center of the universe"
How modest of them to call their national champions "world champions" instead of "masters of the universe" as would be their rightful place.
yeah and when they do compete in actual global sports they get creamed hard :D
The only thing, i can say to this, is: "BY THE POWER OF GRAYSKULL!"
There's this joke that there must be a rigged jury in the Miss Universe contest, because only women from Earth will win: "No woman from another planet has ever made it to the finals. Conspiracy?" 😁
You might enjoy the mockumentary "Cunk on America" hosted by Philomena Cunk
American national champions are masters of the Loony-Verse. Borderline histrionics meets gung-ho cowboys.
I'm happy that I just have to watch one 20 minute newscast at 20:00h here in The Netherlands, and not a 24/7 screaming match
I did not know that prime time starting at 8:15 is a weird thing. It was always completely normal to me and I just never thought about it that much.
Me too! When he mentioned that it was because of the Tagesschau, I was like "Damn, he's right, 20:15 is a weird time... now it makes sense!" 😂😂😂
I never realized it's because of the Tageshow either, but even the kids channels like Super RTL or Disney Channel had their best stuff at 20:15
Same.. 😂
@@Sophie-ru9ir Beste Sendezeit Gang!^^
It's common in most of Europe to start at 20:15 or even later, like 20:35
Whenever i was in the US and tried to stay informed what is going on around the world or who won the elections in Germany I had to use the Internet..watching American TV gave me the impression there are no other countries existing
how do you even turn to tv as your first new source? jfc
@@lenas6246because other countries actually show news from all over the world?
@@lenas6246because as you have seen in the video not every country has such a shitty media landscape as the US
@@lenas6246Well, because in Germany you will get that information from the tv?
@@lenas6246Because basically everyone has a TV and even if you don’t want to watch TV currently it still provides appreciable background noise while doing other things.
Germans like to watch their news during breakfast/dinner. (even though that used to be considered bad manners)
I love the random Bernd das Brot appearence during the channelswitches.
Kika is a cooperation of ARD and ZDF... ;-)
Come on, Bernd das Brot hit the gamescom this year :D
What's also important to know is that the news network behind the tagesschau is incredibly big, spreading all their journalists and reporters all around the world to almost any country. It is also a prime source for many over news networks.
Yes but they only spread leftwing propaganda & is financed by a forced tax you can't opt out of over 4000people are in PRISON for not paying the GEZ
The 50+ generation, of which I'm part of, considers it rude to call someone on the phone during "Tagesschau". I've never answered a call myself while watching the News.
And there is a saying "I can do that between 8pm and the Tagesshow" meaning that you can do something in no time.
Wenn Du jemanden während der Tagsschau anrufen kannst und der nicht verärgert ist, weißt Du sicher: Der kann eigenständig denken.
@@Spatzenterror Gehirntoter Querdenker-AfD-Scheißdreck.... ultimativ maximalentbehrlich! Musst wahrscheinlich googeln, um das zu verstehen.....
@@Spatzenterrorne. Das ist dann nur ein denkfauler Schwurbler, der so einen Mist absondert, wie du gerade. Was die "Denken" nennen, das reicht noch nicht einmal für die Aufnahme an einer Grundschule. Die plappern nur dummes Zeug nach, das sie von einem anderen Deppen gehört haben.
@@SpatzenterrorDu glaubst wahrscheinlich auch, alles besonders intelligent zu „hinterfragen“, weil du dich in Telegramkanälen und auf „unabhängigen“ Internetseiten informierst.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉
I like the Tagesschau news format. Within 15 minutes, you are informed of what is going on nationally and internationally. It doesn't waste my time. Also I appreciate that the news don't have an emotional undertone. Mostly pure information with some footage shown. Just a very efficient way to deliver a product and then let people move on with their lives.
Based on that, one can say that US news media attempts to think on behalf of the people giving people no space to make their own judgments, and Tagesschau attempts to give the information and let the people come to their own conclusions.
@@birdsongs482 US news media dictates to the viewers what they are supposed to think.
@@birdsongs482it is really obvious you have never watched the Tagesschau or else you would know it is pretty bias
@@elbarto4069 I have not, I was merely speculating, based on the comment and the video.
I am only aware of the US media, and it is unbearable propaganda and brainwashing. Surely, Tagesschau would be better than that, given the greater trust that the German public places in it.
@@rap3208 and it seems they have been pretty successful in that. They are very good at the art of creating hate and conflict amongst the people.
The fact that "Bernd das Brot" made an appearance made this 100% more real! Good job mate!
I love how KiKa is on position 5 on his remote^^ That's so low down.
Bernd for president
@@bookishwriter9460This is the remote of parents maybe...
Bernd is to early, KIKA air`s till 21:00
alle zusammen, tanzt das brot
Being German and 42 years old, I‘d rather translate Tagesschau with „view“ than with „show“. Both translations are possible, but it‘s not a show. It delivers a view on the main news of the day.
Anyhow, thanks for your video. It‘s so useful to see other views on things, by people of other nations. By this, my opinion, we learn from each other, see our differences - and may come closer to each other ❤
In my opinion, German news programs are information programs, while American news programs are entertainment programs in which world events play a relatively minor role.
Both propaganda. German news is just much more subtle
@@Thomas-py6dw There are people who basically always and everywhere smell propaganda. Compared to other countries, I find the news from Germany's public broadcasters pleasantly neutral.
Exactly. I was forced to watch Russian state TV for a freaking decade and also followed US TV stations like MSNBC or CNN since ether 2016 elections and German news since 9/11. Like the difference between night, sundown and day😅
@@eisenprinzpl9114
It is, and it isn't. To do better than american media is not really a high mark
@@Thomas-py6dw 🤡
After 1,5 weeks on my 2 week roadtrip in the US as a German I literally started searching for the Tagesschau on youtube. It's weird how Americans live in their own tiny news bubble.
Yeah Germany is completely Bubble Free (TM) as approved by the government
Ja ist cool das wir so viel mitbekommen , hat aber auch Nachteile. Dauernd schlechte Nachrichten zu sehen und hören belastet einen unterbewusst, kein Wunder ist ganz Deutschland so mürrisch...
and germans dont
😂🤡
@@strammerdetlef True, germans are living in their own News bubble, too.
doch, manchmal ist das da. aber das ist doch kein vergleich zu einem zustand in dem absolut jeder in seiner eigenen kleinen realität lebt, es keine gemeinsamen nenner mehr gibt und einzelne private noch 10-fach weniger kontrolliert werden als örr's. da liegen welten dazwischen, ob ein örr-redakteur mal eine etwas linkere formulieren braucht im vgl zu einem ganzen netzwerk das vorsätzlich und ganz öffentlich in seiner daseinsberechtigung darauf angewiesen ist, menschen von langer hand aufzuregen, um die interaktion sprich mehr geld zu generieren. nein, örr sind nicht darauf angewiesen. das ist die de facto definition von örr. nicht vom markt abhängig, sondern von der gewichtigkeit der nachricht selbst. das ist natürlich auch etwas schwammig, aber besser als geld als alleinige und endgültige absolute in allen redaktionellen inhalten. @_zantetsuken_
The 'US Centrism' thing is even more obvious as a Canadian. Canada is literally right next door sharing over 4600 kms (2860 mi) of border with the US. We get US networks here. We get TV and streaming from the US. We get advertising from the US. But it's entirely one way.
The most surreal example of it was when I was in Bellingham Washington - just 23 mi south of the border, and a clerk was surprised at my Canadian credit card. He asked if I was on vacation. When I asked why, he said that I was a long way from home. I pointed out that the Canadian border was just up the street (I pointed north :) ), he apologised and said he just moved to Bellingham from Texas.
I can assure you that most Canadians know where the US border nearest to them is - whether they want to or not. :)
It's not *as* extreme, but I think all major nations have a bit of that effect and us smaller countries have to deal with that.
Brexit happened in part because the UK (or more specifically England) still though it was the center of the world.
France, China, India, Russia etc all have a bit of this effect.
Of course no one are as extreme as the US in this regard...
@@Luredreier You are right, all smaller states have to "deal" with that different perception on the bordered countries. But the funny thing about the original post ist, that it doesn't even mention the fact, that even actually the US are the smaller state, Canada is still treated as it
@@Luredreier it's called nationalism. Not to confuse with patriotism.
would you believe that there are also "allegedly" high-educated folks who will tell you that New Mexico is a country and not a state... while a 7-11 clerk from Nevada, Arizona, etc., will mention having relatives in New Mexico state?
yeah, we're being run by a bunch of idiots down here, so plz drop bombs of books on us about life universe and everything for the love of pancakes!
Do countries all over the world trade in your currency?. Do they watch your TV shows and look to your political leaders for guidance in gllobal conflicts? Do they rely on you spearheading the latest technological advancements? Do you have military bases, aircraft carriers and submarines all over the globe? If not then maybe you'll see why the world doesn't pay as much attention to you as they do to a political superpower that has shaped geopolitics for centuries. Don't get me worng, you guys are pretty chill. But on a day to day basis the US has a lot ore influence on my life than you guys do :)
One could also note that most german kids grow up watching kika which is the kids channel from ARD also having a news show called Logo! which
is pretty similar to the Tagesschau just simplified for children. So german kids get educated pretty early with respect to whats going on in the world. Me for example: I remember Logo! reporting about the incident in Fukushima in 2011 and other things. So I think this already opens up the eyes towards the world outside germany and europe and is also a reason why many germans value this kind of news reporting so much.
I highly appreciate the fact that you actually pronounce all German abbrevations etc. in this video in German, as opposed to English or trying to translate everything directly. We need more multilinguistic videos on CZcams, honestly, including those directed at an English-speaking audience :)
also it sounds adorable ^^
He didn't pronounce them entirely correctly. It was more of a mix between German and English pronunciations. But at least he tried his best.
Some sound like puns though. Undoubtedly unintentional but still kind of amusing. NDR (In the air)
I was in Canada when Notre Dame burned. It was all over the news in Germany while I was still running around blissfully unaware. It finally had like 30s screentime during the late news. It was such an odd experience, living in a bubble like that.
Yeah, but in this special case that's also because France is Germany's direct huge neigbour. They love to report about France here. That's not the case with Britain, Spain or Italy or our many other and little neigbour countries. They're rarely in the news, while about France even the most important laws, decisions and strategies are reported about on a regular basis here in Germany.
@@SamWinchester000I think it's because the Notre Dame is a world-famous cathedral, so of course people are interested in it, just like how they'd want to know if the Eiffel Tower collapsed.
@@SamWinchester000 That’s a good point. As a european you’re used to news from - well all over europe. The focus being only on the US (or in my case Canada) just felt very surreal. As if there’s nothing else going on in the world.
@@SamWinchester000 Yes, that might explain the large extend of news coverage. But Tagesschau will also neutrally cover the latest development in Sudan or whereever - while US media only covers that when US citizens are involved.
@@SamWinchester000 Sure about Germany sharing a special relationship with France, but to not report such a historical event about a worldwide known ancient cathedral burning still sounds very strange. I mean, French is even a common language in Canada and in the US, Disney had a movie with Notre Dame.
As a german I just always thought watching american or UK news was incredibly frustrating because all I wanted was a quick summary of everything that's going on instead of half-an-hour segments about one topic which might not even be "big" news 😅 Having lived in the UK for 5 years now I've realised that's not really a thing lol
I'm also german and to be fair: BBC News are very good as well
As a UK citizen I do more-or-less trust the BBC (and the ITV) news for accuracy, however over the past few years the BBC has got very bland in its attempt to be 'unbiased' so I do perceive it as somewhat scared of the current government who do, after all, control the amount the BBC may charge for the 'licence' fee. They have also started to give long, magazine style reports on many UK subjects which I find rather odd as I believe the programme 'Newsnight' on BBC 2 was originally set up to do the in depth reporting to leave the BBC main news free to report headlines on more and wider spread major issues.
Yes, the BBC is also my choice to have a look from Germany over to you to see what's going on in the the UK.
Our news tell the Main problems of the day from inside and outside, a bit of stock exchange and financial market, sports and weather in 15 minutes. And about other topics or to know more there are broadcasts of 40 or 50 minutes. But we have to search for this.
To it is easier to watch about demonstrations, Brexit, crisis, King Charles or what ever on BBC.
But our short news tell us that there is something going on so that we can do our own researches after realizing about the existance of circumstances. 🙈Sorry, de my English is a little bumpy after 20 years jüst listening And not speaking. 🙄🤷🏼♀️
I found BBC World to be doing exactly that. My experience is 20 years old, so no idea what's going on at the moment, but back then, we always used to navigate to BBC World when we were abroad and weren't able to watch the tagesschau. Actually found it to be way more international and to the point than the German broadcast, but then, they serve different audiences.
Bro brought up GEZ without provoking a war, how is that possible
He didn't mention that the only ones who love GEZ are the ones who agree with the reporting.
@@funstuff7674 thats a lie
@@ShimadaSharra of course it is. You wouldn't like to pay for something that you don't like either.
it's true
No one loves GEZ. It is considered an additional tax as everyone is mandated to pay regardless.
I remember being in the U.S. in the 90s trying to find out who won the elections in Germany and who might be my new chancellor when returning to Germany. I did not manage to find any international news. One of a series of big disappointments about life in the U.S.
Right. Meanwhile in Germany: The news would inform you about the new president of Argentinia and the Kongo, even if you don't want to hear about it.
I just looked at the Times Machine (the archive of the New York Times) and, if you wouldn’t find out on television how the election in Germany went, you would have been able to read about it in the New York Times the day after the election. In 1990 (both after the only free election in the German Democratic Republic and later that year in the first federal election in the reunified Germany), 1994, and 1998 a report about the German election featured prominently on the front page the day after the election.
@ACEsParkJunheeWreckedMeHard haha so true and the German news have the most of the time a littel art part like :" a women from (Canada / Denmark / Singapore/ Benin) make art from ( wood plastic or or or) and talk about ( what ever)
I like the news from Germany. I stay a couple of months in the USA and was very disappointed ow useless the news are there.
Having grown up in the states I was completely oblivious to how narrow the news is in the US. When I went to Asia for school my eyes and brain were completely shocked at all the news sources available to me in the Philippines. Aside from the obviously Philippines news channels I could also watch Australian news ABC, Japan's NHK, France's TV5, The BBC, Korea's Arirang, German news, Singapore's CNA and of course CNN International. I also could watch Fox News and due to me being exposed to all these sources I discovered quickly how much a propaganda and brain-washing outfit Fox News is.
That is actually shocking. 😮
No wonder the average US Citizen thinks that the US is the center of the world and that there is nothing else out there. 😂
Another piece of trivia: The famous "gong" at the beginning is NOT a recording. The studio in Hamburg still uses a physical gong with a microphone pointed at it.
That is so cool, I don't watch news regularly but I totally love the gong and the intro music, idk, it's kinda epic ^^
@@Zurkan0802A few years ago the main tv station (ARD) announced that they would replace the intro-sounds/music to "refresh" the format. The public feedback can be summarized as "can you f**king not??"
Wasn't that an aprils fools prank?
@@dertyp6833 Yes, it was. There's no way it would sound exactly the same every time, and the logistics necessary to have the audio lined up correctly for each show, just for it to be "authentic", would be a complete waste of money and effort. It's a funny idea though.
Thats definetly not true. I was in the recording booth once back in 2000 during a show and would definetly have noticed it.
What could have been mentioned is that German newspapers on the other hand are privately owned and tend to have subtle directions. In Germany many people, besides watching news, also read a lot of newspapers, so this has to be taken into account. Although, to get several opinions on a topic, most people read multiple newspapers.
And this is another big contrast. In the US, almost all newspapers serve a single city region, so each newspaper has a near-monopoly like Tagesschau does. But in Germany newspapers many major newspapers are available nationwide so you get a much wider range of viewpoints.
State news are no different...
@@g.b.5803 That's a helpful point but I think for this purpose we can include reading newspapers' websites and reading articles via social media, Google News, etc. Any method that exposes people to a variety of viewpoints and coverage.
not state news, not even state funded@@stielimusterman3066
@@linmanfu913you might want to add that local newspapers are also very important here
Older American here. Just to say that what you are describing in the US started in the 80s with cable tv, if I am not mistaken. Before that, we had newsmen such as Walter Cronkite, who covered the news objectively in 15 minutes.
That is interesting. So the "contradiction", that Americans brought TV news to Germany after the war, that are "unamerican", isn't actually one. US-News did change a lot while German news didn't.
I'm an older American as well, and I remember those days very well: objective, clear, and precise.
@@sosonolow5094 huh, so maybe that is part of the reason, why political debates are so unhinged these days? Contrary to what he said in the video, the far right is NOT trusting the Tagesschau. Parties like the far right AfD want to disassemble this format and the concept of publicly funded TV as a whole and there are a lot of people who agree to this, who aren't even on the far right political spectrum.
We might see the German news landscape change in the same way yours changed in the 80s and it makes me sad.
@@HQbaracuda Ich hoffe nicht. Ich habe drei Jahre in Deutschland gewohnt und habe die Tageschau jeden Tag angeschaut und während Weltkrisen wie Covid bevorzuge ich immer noch die Tagesschau.
@@HQbaracuda theres a huge reason for that... despite claiming independance the councils that dictate the direction of ARD/GEZ are mostly politicans that try to earn money/further their own idealogy..
thinking the news in germany is without political influence is insane.
Same thing with our public transport aka Deutsche Bahn.
Just alot of politicans as bosses that try to claim that these institutes are without political influence but reality looks and feels alot diffrent and if you pay attention in the last ~10 years you will noticed a shift in discourse and how stuff is reported, which is a real shame.. what germany needs is a law to prevent politicans to work in stuff like that.
What I like about the presentation of news in German Television, as a German myself,
is the emotional neutrality of the delivery. The spectators has to interpret the content of the news for themselves, without being influenced by the presentation too much.
The scene with the guy whacking a table with a small axe is from a talkshow in the late 70's, not from a news broadcast.
Der ÖRR neigt abhängig vom Format von unterschwellig linker bis zu offener linker Voreingenommenheit.
@@nitrozeus951
That depends on what the viewer individually regards as 'left-wing'. Quite apart from the fact that the left-right scale is not complex enough for almost all political debates.
@@nitrozeus951 Found the AFD-Wähler.
@@nitrozeus951 Sie sagen ja selbst das relativ schwache Wort "neigt". Es ist sicherlich neutraler als CNN oder Fox News
Man sollte ohnehin verschiedene Informationsquellen nutzen um sich selber eine Meinung zu bilden, also noch andere Quellen neben dem ÖRR.
I lived in the US for nearly four years, and watching news there is crazy. It's extremely subjective, politicized, very emotional, and sometimes very hateful. I especially noticed this around political election times
To be honest, whenever I would come across bits of US news on SocialMedia I always assumed they were just comedy skits. I was completely taken off guard when I found out a few years ago.
Occasionally YT links me to US TV. What I see there is disgustingly "woke" and streamlined not to hurt any of the many minorities in the US. Unfortunately German TV is following in line and watching it is waste of time.
During election time in Germany, there are short tv spots for lots of political parties. Always with the disclaimer that the party is responsible for the content.
@@andreabartels3176 There are spots for all parties you can vote for and some of them are hilarious.
like in Germany...Look what they say about AfD ... A bunch of Lies,but the most people didnt ever listen to a Politican from this party,the only hear on the narrative of the media and the didnt talk with members or supporters from this party,cause the are told from the media not to speak with this "Nazis".....Nazi is everybody with a own opinion.
German journalist here, thanks for the great video, you are spot on with it. Still, I´d like to add that apart from Tagesschau there are other, more local focussed news formats on the networks, before and after the 8 pm slot. Also, like in the US, we have 24/7 news channels like n-tv, Welt, phoenix and also Tagesschau24 ;) So, you have a lot of choice. I do agree that the big part Tagesschau still plays ist due to the style of presentation and focus on the big stories. Maybe having only 15 minutes helps with that ;)
Let's not forget that n-tv is not only a 24/7 news channel, but also the main source of "anything-Hitler-Nazi-WW2" documentaries :D
Wenn man bedenkt, das wir unglaublich viel Rundfunk zahlen und nicht imstande sind so großartige Dokumentation wie in NatGeo zu machen ist etwas peinlich.
Ebenfalls peinlich ist die Tatsache, dass der Rundfunkrat größtenteils aus Parteifreunden und Mitgliedern besteht.
Ist das nicht etwas bedenklich?
No fuzz, no banners, no bling-bling, more or less neutral. Just the information. That's what I'm there for. In the "superior" version of the Tagesschau (Tagethemen) the hosts are even allowed to smile and throw in ONE joke every other episode or so. Love it.
They get 10 Million views even on weekdays and depending on other programs even more.
Tageschau neutral? Best joke ever
@@RogerKaptunik Lass mich raten, entweder bist du AfD Anhänger, oder einer von Linken?! LOL
@@RogerKaptuniknichts kann 100% neutral sein. Dennoch ist die Tagesschau eine der Medien die zumindest versuchen einigermaßen ausgeglichen zu berichten
just the part of information youre supposed to receive
There's also a channel that is a project of two countries: Arte, a project from france and Germany and they both show a very interesting program in French and German.
You may need to explain the concept of an art-and-culture TV channel to an American audience. 😜 I like Arte a lot.
Arte is a wonderful source of information, be it news, history, politics or any form of culture. I also like the 3sat channel for much of the same reason.
Arte is my favourite publicly funded channel in Germany. Arte Concert in particular is utterly amazing.
Arte cooperates with a couple of other broadcasters. Austria, Belgium, Czechia, Ireland, Italy, Finnland, Luxembourg, Poland and Switzerland.
@@makkurotatsu pbs would be the closest equivalent there
I cannot remember the name of the German journalist who said that news should be presented cool, but not cold. (I am paraphrasing because I couldn’t find the original quote yet.) For me, that is one essential aspect of good news reporting: Present *facts* in a calm and neutral manner (Americans might call that “boring”), don’t put your personal spin and feelings on it. Let the audience know about the facts and make of it what they will. News is not entertainment, nor should news be twisted into entertainment in the way U.S. outlets do it. At least that is my opinion in this matter.
Do you mean Hanns Joachim Friedrichs?
That's who I found when I searched for the quote
„Das hab’ ich in meinen fünf Jahren bei der BBC in London gelernt: Distanz halten, sich nicht gemein machen mit einer Sache, auch nicht mit einer guten, nicht in öffentliche Betroffenheit versinken, im Umgang mit Katastrophen cool bleiben, ohne kalt zu sein. Nur so schaffst du es, daß die Zuschauer dir vertrauen, dich zu einem Familienmitglied machen, dich jeden Abend einschalten und dir zuhören.“ in einem Interview mit dem Spiegel.
In the same interview he also said something along the lines of 'you're going to have a hard times as a reporter, if you aren't ready to reveal the world's soul'
Das sind zwei unterschiedliche Zitate! Kenne beide ... @@einwildesrehchen3862
I heard it said that the only time the late Walter Cronkite gave in to emotion was when President Kennedy was killed. An old clip shows Cronkite taking off his glasses and wiping away a tear. Where have people like him gone?
@@einwildesrehchen3862 Looks like CZcams removed my original response in which I had included a URL pointing to the original Spiegel interview, so let me repeat my "thank you for reminding me of Hajo Friedrichs; how could I forget."
This does only work in theory. Reporting calmly about putin's atrocities in ukraine downplays the dramatic situation. To report this neutrally would almost be pro-Putin propaganda. by the way, the german media did not report on this as calmly as usual. They were very upset. And a lot of pro-putin people mentioned that the ARD failed their neutral stance they had until then. In my opinion, they did the right thing since neutrality does not really exist. All news is propaganda in one way or another.
Let‘s be clear: Germans love stuff being dry. Dry humor, dry talking, dry facts. And I learned to love this as well. Drama is just so exhausting. PS: FOX news is just embarrassing to watch, srsly
Don't forget, they like dry wine, dry gin, dry sherry and dry underpants, too!
Me as a german i gotta say i kinda don't like the lack of emotions/ or better showing off emotions
We also love our women dry 🇩🇪
I agree with everything except dry humor.
In Germany humor is very rare.
And if humor exists, then very cheap. Just take a look at German comedies 🤦🏼♀️
@@morucekThanks for the laugh
As a german, it always felt very weird seeing American News. US News feel very emotional and subjective, making me trust the news less. Tagesschau is objective and fits everything you need into 15 minutes. I personally find their way of presenting the news very comforting. After a long day you tune into Tagesschau, hear everything you need to know presented by a calm voice and right after that you can enjoy the best shows or movies of the evening.
tagesschau is extremely leftwing and def not objective 😂
its basically like cnn and a lot of the presented news are political manipulation of the viewers. If important events dont fit the narrative they simply get ignored or not even mentioned. Maybe they present it with a calm voice and without emotion but this makes it even more dangerous for non critical viewers.
Tagesschau is objective 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
No srsly you probably believe the German economy is great and that the per capita rate of getting shot isn't higher than in the US
Tagesschau isnt good ! They lie and only tell what the goverment says !
And it seems a weird irony that Americans also trust their local, more informative news stations more, yet still the large channels remaining screaming and subjective. _And_ still have an audience with that.
No wonder it's a small step between subjective and demagogical.
@@RobertLanard i mean an audience of 2 million on a population of 300+ is not really noteworthy
Four times the population, yet one fourth of news viewership.
Then again, considering how bad the news is in the US, maybe it's not so bad that nobody is watching. 🙂
The local news wasn’t any good either when I visited twenty years ago. I lived for my daily BBC world news fix.
@@jennyh4025 During my USA visits before the Internet became a thing, my salvation was shortwave radio. Deutsche Welle in particular. I don't remember if BBC World Service is available in mainland USA?
It's just because you guys picked up the internet much earlier. Trust for media is non existent in Germany with young people and social media replaces it slowly.
@@xXdnerstxleXx That is probably not a good thing.
@@poskeegget8043He is luckily exaggerating by a lot.
We also grow up watching the news. There are extra kids-news channels that explain most of the topics in kids friendly ways with animations and other words. When i was in school everyone watched „Logo“ on Kika, one of the most popular kids channels. I loved that! And it teached me important and interesting facts and that i can trust what is said on tv in the public news.
I used to always watch both XD
first logo and then tagesschau. Same time, same sofa, with my grandparents. Good times :')
Well, you should never trust what is said on the telly. Hopefully someone else has taught you that because the telly will never teach you that.
@@demiurgen not to uncritically consume isn't the same as making use of public resources.
The news aren't perfect, nothing is, but they are very very well researched. Thanks to their budget, staff and due to them not needing to sensationalize their stories (due to being tax funded there is no need to rely on ads).
@@demiurgen Of course I know that people can be wrong, even the biggest most trustworthy news channels. But they’re right most of the times. I can still do my own research additionally or have a different opinion (if it’s a matter of opinions) But that doesn’t mean that you can never trust anything on television! That’s such a huge spectrum of channels, journalists, redactions and so on. And they’re not trying to lie or manipulate. Maybe some of them, but the huge majority doesn’t. I think your comment is kinda negative and arrow minded because television is not just one person or something like that…
Logo is great. I miss the time when my kids were that youg. I loved a lot of things about Kika.
Im a migrant. German news espc Tagesschau is the best. It educates me every time better and better. That is essential for a democracy
There are some interesting things:
Sometimes a topic can be so big it doesn't fit into those 15 minutes but it might still be of national importance. In this case the Tagesschau will be followed by a "Brennpunkt" (focus point), a longer format 10-30 minute section focused on only a single news topic. The Tagesschau will still contain a summary and then refer people to the Brennpunkt. The original program will be pushed back respectively. This happens around once or twice a month.
Also starting at 20:00 public TV stations are no longer permitted to show advertisements. Therefore the most expensive slot for TV advertisements on a regular day is the slot right before Tagesschau to my knowledge.
He said that already
@@fizzzydevNo he mentioned the "Tagesthemen" which starts at around 10 pm. Brennpunkt is a seperate thing
The clip about the "Jugendwort" wasn't part of a regular Tagesschau. It was a web exclusive.
But everybody has seen it, because Susanne Daubner is iconic.
@@XxSchraeubchenxX she is, I adore her.❤️ However, in the video this is presented as an example for soft news within a regular Tagesschau. Just wanted to clarify this for non-Germans ✌️
Yup, the Tagesschau is huge, and it used to be even much bigger back in the days when linear TV was more important than it is today, in the age of podcasts. Up until at least the late 1990s, it was even considered rude to call people on the phone between 8pm and 8:15pm.
And I never heard about that App before. Then again, I can't really imagine renting a scooter, either.
„Wer ruft denn während der Tagesschau an?!“ said my Mom every time when the phone rang between 20:00 and 20:15 😄
But that was rare, because everybody in Germany
knew that you don’t disturb anyone during Tagesschau.
Never hire a scooter - like a toy, left wherever you might fall over it ... Had one in front of our entrance for days, before I tried to confront "them who own this obstacle" - They asked for a lot of private information (had the address and e-mail already) and I told them: "Sorry, I do not want to rent - but if you do not remove that silly scooter from our entrance I could try to inform the police." Next day it was gone😜
And Susanne Daubner is a Legend
Sheesh
Sus
It boils down to this: US news media doesn't actually exist to give anyone the news. That would be "too boring" in their words. They exist to draw in as many viewers as possible and hope those viewers stick around through a barrage of adverts. It's as simple as that. You can ask anyone (like me) who has worked in the industry. Money is all that matters. They just so happen to put out something that vaguely has the same outline as "news" enough to dupe people into thinking it is. But at the end of the day, it all amounts to tabloid journalism. Everyone from Fox to CNN, OAN to NPR, Sinclair to independent local.... it's all the same: carefully-crafted emotional manipulation.
You boiled it down pretty well, but it boils down further: news media is all fully commercial (with the "exception" of the PBS) in the US, and thus it's all about the money.
Stupid people just want to get entertained by news stations that confirm their bias
I think an interesting to note is the existence of News for kids ( logo! Nachrichten), in which they explain the circumstances in a way that children can understand. Also while the publicly funded shows like Tagesschau exist and are watched by all sides of the political spectrum I think it's worth mentioning that it's different when it comes to newspapers. Mainly the Bild- Zeitung is I think read by more people of the right.
I loved to watch logo! Also worth mentioning, they start at 19:50 and are 10min long, so me and my siblings would watch logo and then our parents could switch directly to Tagesschau. Sometimes we stayed and watched it with them and got eased into watching "real" news that way.
I hate "logo". It simplifies facts and subjects too much. The children are not only served the facts but the ready-made opinions concerning those. And it doesn't even help a lot. When my daughter and her classmates went to elections for the first time at the age of 16, they had absolutely no clue.
@@antjeblum9034 In other words, it follows the same concept as the grown-up news, just with an extra level of dumbing down.
In general Axel Springer stands for the more conservative news (Welt, Bild, etc.), whereas Zeit and Süddeutsche Zeitung are more center-left. But I like to mention that (except of Bild) it is way less polarizing in germany than in the US
The cable channel Nickelodeon has Nick News, which has the same conceit; it originally ran from 1992 to 2015, anchored by former NBC News correspondent Linda Ellerbee, and it was revived in 2020 as a series of one-hour specials that focus on specific topics, in the vein of Germany's _Brennpunkt_.
In Germany we also have the "Tagesthemen" on ARD and the "Heute Journal" on ZDF a little later in the evening, in which both channels each report 30 minutes in more detail about daily news and these programs are also popularly watched.
And stay confident!
@ Thank you very much and yes, I'll keep trying.
I like Die Anstalt a lot, because of their critical viewpoints and thorough research. Sure it's biased to the left, but I like the humour. :)
@@etuanno “Die Anstalt” is a political cabaret and satire format, but in its own way they report better on the background to certain topics than the news formats. But imo, the quality is unfortunately variable, especially among the invited guest cabaret artists.
I haven´t watched TV in 10 years. First because I hate this government-backed bull shit. Second because I don´t even get the signal. Still these government-jerks extort € 18.60 from me each month.
*gong* "Hier ist das erste deutsche Fernsehen mit der Tagesschau" iconic line 😂
For good reason, Tagesschau is named ‚Tagesschau‘ and not ‚Tagesshow‘. I like your translation ‚review of the day‘ which it actually is. They present news to present news, not for business purpose. They are funded quite well anyway and don’t depend on it.
To be fair - it has inherited it's name from the Wochenschau, wich was basicly a propaganda show ;)
@@bugfisch7012Uhm aehm actually - in itsd roots it used to be a somewhat independent news show but the Nazis centralized it in 1940 and made it into a propaganda show.
We just didn't copy every English word back in the day.
@@m.l.9385 Well, yes and no - there were several formats with the same concept, some of em were called Wochenschau as well. Two of em, I think - Fox's tönende Wochenschau and the Tobis Wochenschau. Last one was founded in '38, so I guess there is a propagandistic background as well, since basicly all media would have gone through the ministry of propaganda at that point ;)
They all did unified into the Deutsche Wochenschau in 1940 as an act of "Gleichschaltung". The Wochenschau itself was allways a propaganda show.
@@bugfisch7012 My point was - that Wochenschauen and the name Wochenschau existed long beforehand (like back 1914 or so). Making it a propaganda show came much later with the Nazi regime.
As a German I’m happy that our news gives us facts instead of opinions/agendas. And when there is an opinion piece it is clearly identified as such and always delivered without inflammatory language.
Ach, wie zB die tolle antiseminsitmusgrafik bei illner? Oder "Hetzjagden in Chemnitz" ?
Sadly nowadays more and more people, especially due to extremist manipulation, actually believe that the news are heavily biased and trying to indoctrinate, while they are themselves falling victim to exactly that just by another entity. It's almost a religious distrust, which is immune to facts and molded solely through appealing to emotion and the good old "us vs. them" mentality. Which is very scary and reminiscent of certain historical societal landscapes.
😂😂😂
In which alternative reality are you living in??
Normally that's true. And especially compared to the US.
00:09 "..being in a dystopian world" -> Just right on time to switch to Bernd das Brot...
I'm German and I was shocked when I saw American news for the first time. To me, it looks overly and unnecessarily exaggerated. Like mentioned in the video, the focus is more on entertainment than on being factual and informative. American news feel incredibly unprofessional and low standard, and I'm not surprised why "the stupid American" is a stereotype that exist.
I agree. I'm American, and when I visited my sister in the States, I noticed the exaggerations and use of stock footage on the news. This hit home right away when, in Chicago, mind you, a projected inch or so of snow flurries in January was a lead feature introduced with snow-storm footage from a storm somewhere sometime. When I was in Germany, I didn't have a television, and listened to NDR and WDR as well as'AFN (US armed forces network) on the radio and read newspapers and newsmagazines for my news. Now, living in the States, I still don't have a television and get my news from NPR (which includes BBC), PBS newshour once a week online, and die Zeit online. I also occasionally watch Fox, NBC, and CNBC online when a particular theme interests me. I also read NYT, the Wall Street Journal, and USA Today. For local news, I use NPR, my colleagues, and the library's copies of a couple local and regional papers.
We have NEWS and you have TV Shows claiming to be NEWS.
Interesting Thought. Maybe that is the reason why we don't have "breaking news" every 15 minutes...
@@Frank-wh8cm Who do you mean by we???
Germans?
Yes, we do not have that in abundance.
We have it, when it is really breaking NEWS worth mentioning.
A car chase doesn't fall under that category.
@@Kivas_Fajo I have never seen a german TV show being paused for ANYTHING, not a war, not no chancellor vote, NOTHING. That is great. You know why? Because Newsoutlets always have journalists in the background researching and preparing an extra show, like "Brennpunkt" or "ZDF heute Spezial" with ONLY researched and double and triple checked news in them. In germany its not important how fast you can get informed but how right the information is and i love that...
@@Kivas_Fajo Stuff like the Challenger explosion or 9/11 or the start of US attacks on Baghdad were actual breaking news in Germany.
As a German, Tagesschau is an absolute institution and has been for all my life, that of my parents and even my grandparents. The German political spectrum is very wide and nuanced, yet seemingly everyone appreciates their reporting. I love how "dignified" and to-the-point the presentation is too. With the hectic presenting style of private news I always immediately shut off because it just comes across as sensationalist and at times even populist, hinting at some kind of hidden agenda.
Tagesschau also has the most beautiful news studio I've ever seen anywhere. They don't use a green screen, so you can see the reflections of the imagery on the furniture, and the camera movement is fully automated. All that together with that epic intro music is just... *chef's kiss*
It‘s not like they are literally using a framing manual...
And stay confident!
@@stielimusterman3066shut up
It comes across as such, because there is usually a hidden (or not so hidden) agenda of private news channels.
Juuunge du bist so ein Opfer.
Also nur, weil Nachrichten neutraler und weniger übertrieben/amerikanisch präsentiert werden soll das eine gute Quelle sein?
Wenn man 5 Tage 24/7 vom der Beerdigung der Queen berichtet, anstatt zB von Lithium Minen mit Kinderarbeitern ist dass natürlich auch eine beeinflussung. Red dir bloß nicht ein dass die neutral sind.
One thing that makes ARD such a good source of information is its worldwide network of correspondents who gather information abroad. There are studios in twelve other European countries, in four African countries, six studios in Asia, three studios in the USA, one in Mexico and one in Brazil.
And all what they bring comes from AP ,Reuters or AFP.....
Your joking. The ARD and ZDF are just the propaganda channel and paid by the current Left Wing government to frame and demonize the only opposition party AFD which is trying to stop the mass invasion from middle eastern and African migrants into the German social systems and the destruction of the German economy and that wants peace negotiations between Ukraine and Russia.
Thank You for that, on the point! I´ve studied journalism in Austria, and for a long time the anglo-saxon manner of presenting news was an idol. Think about Sorkin´s "News Room". The situation now in US is disapointing, actually the founders should be ashamed of that.
One topic you didn´t mention: Ads are forbitten during ARD-News (and by the way, because I´m Austrian: during ORF-News as well). As mentioned in comments before: News never ever should be driven by commercial intrerests! It´s a public good.
and we have to hope that there is no such transformation in Europe
Because them getting funded by the state totally ensures that lmao...
@@stielimusterman3066 you should learn who is funding the public service broadcasters. Tip: Its not the state. Thats why the far-right hate them, as they cant control them, even when in power.
@@stielimusterman3066but it's not government funded. While since 2013 the GEZ is a tax on paper, the government has no controll about the allocation and has no way of taking away the funds.
The news are meant to be "Staatsfern" State distanced.
The news are going through a committee where members of every party and socially relevant groups have a seat (the churches and unions for example).
There were multiple occurrences where the "Bundesverfassungsgericht" Federal Constitutional Court purposefully stopped the government of having influence on the Tagesschau.
In 2014 for example it decided that the government had too big of a part in the committee, and that it was "Verfassungsfeindlich" unconstitutional.
They ruled that no more than a third of the committee are allowed be "Staatsnah" close to the government.
There are numerous instances of programmes payed for by the Rundfunkgebühr (formerly GEZ) that not only heavily criticise the German government but a number of other European governments and their decisions.
The Tagesschau tries to be as unbiased as possible, refraining from any kind of judgement, which can often be interpreted as cold, and if you would watch it you would know that.
And the Tagesschau being unbiased is very much contrasted by very biased programs that lean left and right, or open discussion panels aired between people from the whole range of the political spectrum.
The system we have in place is by far not perfect, and we have alot of unnecessary shows that are eating a hole into the Rundfunkbeitrag, but the government isn't at fault there. That's bad management.
@@rallion1545
There are surveys that reveal that 70% of the people working for the state television are in support of the Green party, which means they are overrepresented at least by the factor 4 and that is reflected by their "reporting".
They literally denounced all critics of the C...virus mearures as "C...virus-deniers", called them "blind gut" and tried to frame them as right-wing extremists and you're telling me they are trying to be as objective as possible?!
Here in Norway we have Dagsrevyen, which roughly means the same as Tageschaue and the news are delivered in a similar fashion.
The differences are that Dagsrevyen is sent 19:00 opposed to 20:00 and the duration is a little longer, at the cost of bringing less important news.
Later in the evening (21:00, 23:00) there are two shorter and briefer news shows.
I think a huge difference is that ARD and ZDF don't need to make money (at least not as their ultimate goal).
This means they don't have to fight for audiences, and thus don't have to be more spectacular, more entertaining, more exciting. They can concentrate on reporting news, they don't need to sell them or make them attractive.
True, but being funded by the government makes them neither independent, nor more objective.
Honestly seeing this I'm actually a bit proud of your news network
And I am really grateful for it
As someone who works in news braoadcasting in Germany:
We DO have a couple of news-only channels:
N-TV (associated with RTL),
N24 (associated with Pro7/Sat1)
and Phoenix (associated with the public station ZDF)
They’re just a bit less watched than the main stations they’re associated to.
Nah, the stupid people in Unterföhring sold N24 to Axel Springer 🙈
N24 has not been associated with P7S1 for years, if not a decade. They are part of Springer
When I watched American news for the first time I was disappointed. All I had seen was a cheap opinion show. Where were the news? Behind a paywall? This is an aspect of privately owned media that was not mentioned in the video: they will produce it as cheaply as possible. One expert who tells his opinion over and over is cheaper than actual reporting or buying news stories from a news agency.
German regional news: we have correspondents all over the world
US national news: there's some guy we don't actually know who sold us a story
The reporter German news outlets send to the US is actually from my home town. Many Germans associate countries with the reporters that work there. In the case of the US it's Elmar Thevissen.
Erm, the guy destroying a table was NOT in a news show, but a talk show, that was misleading. Also a veeeery long time ago, 1971.
It surprised me that the video's creator picked a single event in a single non-news show from more than 50 years ago to make the point that German TV is not always calm and collected. Then again, it speaks for a certain level of decorum in Germany's TV that they had to dig up such an obscure part of ancient TV history.
und deswegen MACH ICH JETZT DIESEN TISCH KAPUTT!
My understanding (from the UK) is that the US has significantly blurred the distinction between what is a news show and what is a talk show
@@MercenaryPen "blurred" is putting it very mildly ... as seen by the example given here where a murrican "news"-reader in the "news"-section leads up to her news about shrinkflation with a sarcastic "thank you mister president" ... irrational attempt to blame the hated president even before the actual news unrelated to the presidency (oreos having less filling) is mentioned ... its pure insanity on murrican "news" channels and getting reports on facts without heavy political bias in the delivery is practicly impossible on US TV these days including the "news" segments, no matter on which side the channel sees itself.
How do you even find this clip as a US visitor? That's like deep cut German TV joke/meme history 😄😄
Belgium has 2 of these, starting at 7. One from the state, more dry, and one commercial, more focused on senation
Arte Journal is also good alternative to the Tagesschau if you want a slightly different flavour. The time it airs is 19:20 in Germany. The main differences are that its 20mins instead of the 15 on ARD, the perspective is more european/french so its not exactly the same topics, some topics get more or less time than on the tagesschau and instead of Sport there are news about concerts, plays or other art related stuff at the end.
The best part is that arte is a cooperation of SWR (the ARD branch covering the states of Baden-Württemberg and Rhienland-Pfalz) and France Televisions.
same right wing shit comment@markusthopesch5719
Both tell lies on foreign policy topics
this is one of my pet peeves about America. You have to make an extra effort to get news, and most people do not have the time, the interest or the skills to find relevant information. This is why fake news are so easy to spread in the U.S. I recall being an AuPair in the U.S. in the eighties and watching the news. A ten second clip on some really big national news (I don‘t recall what exactly) was followed by a three minute report on the poor dogs in New York which are suffering in the summer heat… In the news! It is not surprising that Americans , generally, are disconnected and oblivious of what is going on. I hate Germans groaning about paying GEZ. I gladly pay it in order to have competent news programs. I, too, watch the ARD Tagesschau daily. I grew up in a household that thought it very poor etiquette to call someone between 8 and 8.15 for that very reason, even… On the radio, I love DLF, as they have really good in-depth analyses of politics, social issues etc.
"I hate Germans groaning about paying GEZ"
The problem is, that only a fraction of this "tax" is actually going into news and journalism. Most of the money goes to sport licences, pensions of employers and multiple structures that could easily be reduces while losing no quality at all. The GEZ could be 5€/month if cutting all this expensive costs and still deliver the same quality news.
Thats what people get angry at the system.
@@LegioXXI I think this is what gets the minority of angry people angry at the system specifically. My experience says that ESPECIALLY those who care mostly for sports and soft news are against GEZ. But, you‘re right. I‘d also be in favor of less GEZ Gebühren if it meant less sports expenses and even more/better journalism. In addition, I think costs for pensions etc. CAN be closed by other means, but I‘d hate to have the public channels being constantly interrupted by adds as the private channels are. I‘d rather watch a news program, discussion, analyses etc. WITHOUT a constant barrage of what I should purchase…
I am of the opinion that GEZ is just too much for an income-decoupled enforced "flat tax".
Especially for the lowest 20% of income earners, 20 euros a month makes a difference.
And primarily that the absolute majority of it is not spent on the constitutional duty of public broadcasting - to inform and teach the public. But instead on crime dramas from every village, Volksmusik or sports licensing.
The system in and of itself? I´m happy to support. Arte and DLF rock hard if we´re talking about well-sourced informative media.
"Tatort Hintertupfingen" or Konrad Silbereisen...much less so.
If I had a choice no penny of my income would go to soccer - bad enough you cant escape that boring and completely irrelevant stuff every two years when bigger tournaments happen.
@@user-un8tv1pp8m I agree with this 100%. It should not be a fixed sum, but according to income and persons living there/TV number.
If ARD/ZDF would not shove most of the GEZ up the asses of some overpaid big wigs (who often are linked to high ranked politicans in mainstream political parties), or blow it on massive glass palace HQs, and run dozens of niche channels that often share the media assets (but all have their full HQ with no shared staff), a cut back to the old around 8 Euro/Month that were charged back in the day (around 15y ago) would be possible. ARD/ZDF collaborate on a lot of big events, so a common team out there would be fine. Also, ARD runs the '3.' (third), regional programs. And usually, ALL of those are on site, too, in addition to ARD and ZDF.
The problem with news in america for me is that they spent most of its coverage about a car acident on main street or a brawl in the local pub or a person drowned in the local swimming pool rathen than war in the ukraine and israel. Most news in Amerika are terrible local.
It is the way the news are conveyed which disturbed me in the US. I remember when I was in the US in 2007 and there was a shooting at a university. I tried to find out what really had happened, but all I could find were recordings of circling helicopters and crying people. I eventually gave up searching for information and called my German family and asked for information which I got. I was more informed about the details than the rest of the group who hadn't phoned home. I found that rather disturbing.
The „Rundfunkbeitrag“ is actually something quite controversial here in Germany. Because it keeps raising again and again, while it’s not really clear where the money is going and the program isn’t really getting better. Sometimes the costs for some productions are beyond explanation, like over 200k for a talk show episode where you don’t need to build expensive backgrounds, masks, outfits, special effects, etc. It appears like they could stop producing new content, or stop broadcasting entirely, and the Rundfunkbeitrag would still raise. Also, the way how it's colleted is disliked by many people. It's basically like a de-facto tax, but it's not rally a tax by law.
To put this into perspective. We have roughly 42M households, 2.8M are exempt (unclear whether this is a head or household count) and yet over a million people got visited by the bailiff over this
You still should mention that it is better to have a publicly funded network, even if not everything ist going well (I mean, where is this the case at all?), than not having it. I mean we can see in other countries what happens is media is biased towards political players and hard-winged lobby organizations.
@@krahlos_ Of course it's better to have it. That there is something wrong with something doesn't mean that we should get rid of it entirely most of the time.
@@krahlos_ haha, as If ARD was Not biased :D
Alle the important Guys managing ARD etc are politicants from an govermental Party, Opposition does really hard (Impossible) to get some Kind of Representation in the news
@@Kiloristythe current government gets pretty much daily critics about how they fail in the Tagesschau
As a side note, here in Switzerland (geran speaking part), it is very similar as in Germany, except our tlmeslot is 19:30-20:00 - so in the old times with linear tv, you could append german news afterwards 😹.
The same here in Austria, main news start at 1930-1950. In the past, we had just two channels and these first main news were shown on both of them. It makes sense to combine then different news channels from neighbouring countries or the "international" version on 3SAT or ARTE. I would get mad if I only had the news channels of the US::
What I dislike most about American TV - including the "news" - is that there is an ad break every 10 minutes. How can you focus on or follow anything if it's interrupted by ads so frequently? I mean the only message you gonna take home is to go shopping soon.
That's almost as bad for german privately owned stations.
missed an important part:
no. freaking. advertisements.
The ARD Tagesschau comes without any advertisements. no banners in the view, no clips, not any brand logo (unless part of a news article). not even two seconds before or after the news.
That makes watching the Tagesschau a very well structured and focused stream of information to consume.
when i see 5 minutes of any US TV broadcast i want to shoot myself.
it is so annoyingly presented, visually cluttered, noisy and frequently interrupted.
Here in Italy is mostly the same as in Germany except the news bulletin (we call it "telegiornale" or "TG") airs at different times and is read by different speakers on the 3 main channels of the national television (but the actual news are the same), at around 19:00, 20:00 and 20:30 respectively. That way you don't risk missing it.
The different channels then usually feature different special segments after the main one such as "TG2 Parlamento" on RAI2 (special from the parliament) or TGR on RAI3 (regional news, different for each Italian region).
My honest experience from when I lived in the US is that they simply don't have any news on the big TV stations. They have a lot of entertainment shows using news as an easy way to get something to talk about. I knew less about what happened not only in the rest of the world, but even the US, when I lived there than I do living in Sweden. Experience the US version of news made me understand why so many americans have so little knowledge of the world, including the us.
Thanks for the video :)
I'm german, personally always watching a mix of the "Heute" news at 7pm and "Tagesschau" at 8pm.
I'm also occasionally watch stuff like Fox News, can't stand it for very long tho, cause it just feels so chaotic and in a sense noisy and stressful, if that makes sense.
Maybe it's just my german brain not being used to that, but still, I'm always thankful for our non polarising and all in all pretty neutral german news reports here on TV.
Herzlichen Glückwunsch! Ich halte diesen Beitrag für wirklich informativ, neutral und ausgewogen - mehr davon!
Saying Susanne Daubner is not a personality...thin ice, bro, thin ice. She is straight up beloved.
As a German now I learned why all the good stuff started at 8:15. I just never thought about it before
I always watched Tagesschau, I think they deliver a good and neutral perspective, which others don't, taking BILD for example.
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Hoho, da sprch der Weihnachtsmann. Leben Sie unter einem Stein?
To US readers: Dont believe the lies, Tagesschau & co is everything but neutral. The headquarters of the channels are filled with governing party people. Its seen in the propaganda news. Its North Korean like. Dont believe the lies.
BILD isn't news, BILD is entertainment disguised as a newspaper.
Thank you! I've been waiting for years to see such a good presentation about this, one of my favourite benefits of living in Germany
Thanks for the entertaining video!
I dont know how this works in America but here in Germany most of those local channels make local and or countrywide relevant documentaries about pretty much everything. So they dont just get paid from the public to inform on the news but also to educate viewers in different topics. Espacially the NDR makes some really good ones i can recommend. 👌
One of the specific reasons as to why germans trust the press more is also a result of the "German Press Code" coming from the German Press Council, which lays out fundamentals how journalism has to be done if a news source agreed to it. They do have an official english translation of the guidelines. "Respect for the truth, preservation of human dignity and accurate informing of the public are the overriding principles of the Press."
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@@andreaslangner6621 Funny, right?
@@gargaduk it is totally funny, if you know the German idiom translating to "paper is patient".
It's only formally valid for newspapers (and tabloids like "Bild" don't really care). -The guidelines of the public TV stations are set in the states' laws establishing them and for private television in the media laws of the states. -Which is also important to note that the press and media laws are state laws, so that the central gouvernment don't get any influence on them
So then why do they violate their own principles by for instance interviewing their own damn staff member or accepting videos of radical leftist anti-democratic groups i.e. antifa?
For all English speaking people, I can recommend the English part of the German Public News „DW“ (Deutsche Welle).
And for those of us who understand German and those learning German, I can recommend DW in German.
It’s more emotionless and for news I think thats good
2:02 the numbers are crazy when you compare them. 330 million people in the USA and 83 million in germany. yet number 1 news station in the USA has 1 million less dayli viewer than 3rd place of germany
One big advantage of puplic television is no ads or nearly no ads. Though you can watch a movie without interrupted by commercials 😮.
Unzufriedene sind meist lauter, wie man auch hier beobachten kann.
As an ARD consumer for nearly 60 years now I can confirm: Your video is a piece of good work! 👍
As a high frequent traveler through your homeland (till 2015) I can say that for my proof there is not a lot news in your News.
15 minutes Tagesschau normally show 10 to 15 videos to different themes. Plus a couple of short messages by reading.
Sehr gut gemacht. Deine Analyse ist absolut auf den Punkt gebracht!
In Germany we have the State Media Treaty for public broadcasters. It must be reported neutrally and the news must be verified before it is published. Comments and opinions must be marked.
Occasionally there are surprising things on the Tagesschau or similar programs. Caren Miosga stood on the table as she reported the news of Robin Williams' death and said "Oh Captain my Captain" from the film "Dead Poets Society".
Then how did the German public get so duped by your politicians in the last 20+ years. Good luck
@@guy7018 Look who's talking ,,i,,
@@guy7018What are you even talking about... God, I am so sick and tired of this conspiracy bullshit that is seeping in from the US.
And I hated that, it was too cringe for my taste.
You mean the same State Media that denounced all critics of crown-virus measures as "crown-virus deniers“ and constantly deletes comments on their channels that question their politically correct narrative, if they are enabled at all??
Sooo neutral, credible and democratic lmao...
The Jugendwort is one of the most important topics in news
"Und deswegen mach ich jetzt ma diesen Tisch hier kaputt!" is such a german classic hahaha
The two party thing in America is something that is hard to wrap my head around in general. From an outside perspective it sometimes seems like America is at war with itself at all times. Over here left and right have as much of a different opinion on matters as over there, but it feels like how someone is aligned politically doesn't decide who you're friends or associated with as much. Someone has to be on the very extreme ends of the spectrum and very vocal about it constantly for me to feel like I should maybe not hang out with them as much.
But it is even stranger than you have suggested. In America there is no left and right. You have a slightly right-of-center party , the Democrats, and a right-to-the-very-right party, the Republicans. Although some of the universities have international status with highly respected standards, the American dream for most Americans, many of whom have to work in two jobs, is a total myth. There is a lot to like about America, but its infrastructure would put some 3rd world countries to shame.
It used to be two big parties in (West)Germany, too.
But:It used to be the rule, that the number of party menbers in redactions had to be balanced.
And when the BR that was quite CSU-loaded tried to censor something by not airing the commin First Programme from their transmitters the ZDF aired the ARD's First Programme on their channels in Bavaria instead of their own one. (They didn't like a joke about the Bavarian Prime Minister)
So the BR and the CSU were basically ridiculing themselves by that move...🤭😂
Oh bullcrap. People are extremely judgmental about politics here. The only place I ever felt that they don't give a crap about politics was Japan. Germany is really judgmental. It starts from the way you describe certain words and goes all the way to how you feel about certain parties, about le pen, Trump etc. It is actually worse than in the US. Because in the US no one is going to lose their job for voting republican. There is a large amount of people that vote for them. So they don't mind being associated with them. But in Germany no one wants to be associated with the far right so everyone does their absolute best to push their political opponents into this box called the far right and any person will just completely give up their own values to not be pushed into that box. It is a very dangerous habit and it shows Germany didn't learn much from its past at all.
@@ksmyth999 How are the democrats even remotely centrist or slightly right? They are pro abortion, anti gun, pro immigration, and support the rights of minorities. That is more left than right.
Consider how radio is organized in Europe vs the US. US radio is weird to me. It seems US radio stations don't have a real name compared to European radio stations, also, it seems that most US news stations are local or at least focused on a specific area and a lot more talk. Germany and Europe generally has national and state level news from both private and publicly funded sources that generally mostly play music with news one time at the full hour that's broken down into 5-10 minutes like TV news.
Also, we shouldn’t forget a huge part of news media in Germany: and that’s radio stations and newspapers. There’s so many different types of other news media, with different political views and more factual or more personal statements. That’s what makes it interesting and a „full package“
Yeah I usually switch on BR24 (früher BR 5) and they do a good job with news.
Always weird if I tell my friends not from Germany that I still regularly listen to radio broadcasts)
But that doesn't apply to the German public broadcasting at all..
Great Video.
I think the reason why Americans are often disliked around the world (especially in Europe) is that many Americans think the US is the center of the universe. This is most remarkable in Europe about which most Americans seem to know nothing although the EU is one of the closest ally of the US
it's not like everyone in Germany watches these different channels, they are regional for different parts of germany. They have all there own news studio, but once a day they all show Tagesschau for the big picture.