The 3 Best and Worst Zwift Workouts, reviewed and ranked | 4 part scoring system

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  • čas pƙidĂĄn 28. 06. 2024
  • I take a look through the Zwift Workout library and pull out the best and worst workouts to review them.
    Video was running a bit long so only ended up doing 3 best and 3 worst, not 4.
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    0:00 Intro
    0:29 Scoring System
    1:27 Best workout 1
    4:22 Worst workout 1
    6:26 Best workout 2
    8:39 Worst workout 2
    10:58 Best workout 3
    13:54 Worst workout 3
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Komentáƙe • 47

  • @MoreBoingPlox
    @MoreBoingPlox Pƙed 2 lety +23

    It would be nice if the public could rate the workouts.

  • @minchia04
    @minchia04 Pƙed 2 lety +41

    Thanks for the great video. Couple of suggestions, I preferred the rating out of 5 as it gives more range between bad and good, and maybe turn down the FTP setting for the review (maybe to 200w) to give us mere mortals a better perspective.

    • @adamsims6490
      @adamsims6490 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Yeah, I find percent of FTP much easier to relate too.

    • @dan0368
      @dan0368 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Haha, agreed. Maybe 250 even.

    • @judas5951
      @judas5951 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +2

      Yea :D Talking about a "Low Zone 2" at 222Watts...

  • @robj9898
    @robj9898 Pƙed 2 lety

    Great video will definitely give the recommended workouts a try.

  • @adamsims6490
    @adamsims6490 Pƙed 2 lety +18

    'The McCarthy Special' is the hardest Zwift workout I've tried. So hard. 3 x 9min ramps. (3min @100% + 3min @112% + 3min @125%) x 3

    • @dan0368
      @dan0368 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      That is one that scares me, and I've done The Gorby. :D

    • @taylorbrasher4252
      @taylorbrasher4252 Pƙed 2 lety

      ahhh that one is absolutely brutal!

    • @andreal1647
      @andreal1647 Pƙed 2 lety

      Done that IRL. It was even more brutal than on the turbo 👌

    • @MegaMarkoni
      @MegaMarkoni Pƙed rokem

      The only one I haven't finished... Failed at the last interval...

    • @DoNuT_1985
      @DoNuT_1985 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@MegaMarkoni Same here, I do this once every season and get the same results. Second 125% FTP block gets hard in the final minute and on the third one, I make it about halfway through it, but you can feel my legs getting tired on the 115% segment. I must admit, I only do such workouts once in while because channels like Jesse's are praying that most people are not training enough at high intensity levels. I see more use in this one than in 7-watts-per-kilo intervals that I'll never ever need in my average endurance riding, anyway...

  • @lsc5403
    @lsc5403 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Thanks Jesse. Watched in anticipation for The Gorby and pleased to see you rate it. I did that one a lot with great improvements. The trainer resistance gets harder to make you fail on last two. This is the best part! Beating the machine if you can. It’s like mtb death climbs.

    • @cricanwa
      @cricanwa Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci

      How do you know that the trainer resistance goes up in the last two sets? I've never heard of or experienced this.

  • @mohelu
    @mohelu Pƙed 2 lety +1

    That’s was worth the watch!
    Would you consider reviewing Zwift Plans?

  • @griffinevo3782
    @griffinevo3782 Pƙed 2 lety

    Did the Expand yesterday, before seeing this video, and found it quite good. What I hadn't expected from the description was the focus on high cadence - those high intensity sections were at a cadence of over 100rpm. I had thought the high intensity blocks looked low but doing the ride they were much tougher than I expected.

  • @devidia
    @devidia Pƙed 2 lety

    Cool! implemented a few into my database of workouts

  • @alessiozanon2179
    @alessiozanon2179 Pƙed 2 lety

    Hi, cool video. For the first “Best workout “ I was thinking to reduce to 8 min the recovery from the two sets then add a 16 min recovery at the end, then repeat the two sets. Long story short : 18 min effort, 8 recovery 18 min effort, 16 recovery , 18 effort, 8 recovery 18 effort, cool down
 yes not so “short”😅

  • @petercallow353
    @petercallow353 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I’ve looked at the SST(Med) workout myself. If you plot the workout by %FTP and use the Coggan - based definitions, the harder 5-min blocks are on the boundary between sweetspot and threshold and the easier ones are on the lower boundary with tempo, so it looks like sweetspot training to me? Of course, each target has a range around it 
. I agree that the short surge in the middle seems a bit pointless and I definitely agree with the point that doing this every day will quickly lead to burnout; so the description needs changing. Also, returning to Coggan, the tougher intervals are shorter than he would recommend (and, as you point out - are the easier ones needed at all?).
    You may argue that over-unders or threshold intervals are more efficient workouts (I agree), but some people get scared of these - because, as another CZcams channel presenter said “threshold intervals just suck” (not to avoid them, but if they’re done correctly, they are pretty tough).
    I can’t really comment on the other workouts, but Zwift does seem to have quite a lot of gimmicky ones that don’t really seem to achieve anything (other than getting you on the trainer - which is training, of sorts).
    Overall a video which made me stop and think a bit.

  • @saracen888
    @saracen888 Pƙed rokem +5

    The Gorby aka The Quitter
    Me - fuckkk that
    *Jesse Coyle* - It’s a tough workout, I love it; inspirational
    You’re built different mate 😂

  • @svh93
    @svh93 Pƙed 2 lety

    would you recommend to just bump the percentage up a bit in the 'step by step' workout, so all of the blocks will be solid zone 5 work? Might be a solid workout then, considering your critique on it

  • @GrouEEf
    @GrouEEf Pƙed 2 lety +2

    The Gorby is a quite classic 5x5 vo2max tbh... It's slightly low imho, you should do it at 112%-115% from what I understand. That's propably not valid as the zwift ramptest overestimates FTP signifficantly.

  • @tobiau2218
    @tobiau2218 Pƙed rokem +1

    14:40 The range of those power numbers is from 110% to 118% of FTP. Coggan's Z5 is 106 - 120% FTP. So it is entirely, medium to upper Z5. At least as accurate as anyone can guess someones Z5. Zwift thinks the same as expressed by the colour of the bars. Do you use different zone percentages?

  • @dan0368
    @dan0368 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    ZwiftInsider brought me here, nice video. Could you do a similar video with a workout plan or two in Zwift? I know that will be a lot more work, but doesn't hurt to ask!

    • @nerocoaching
      @nerocoaching  Pƙed 2 lety

      Thanks Dan. I've had a look at the Zwift plans, it's not really something I have too much to say about negatively as they don't proclaim to be something they aren't. They are realistic with what they provide, which is some structure to a few weeks of indoor training to get you closer so a goal. If you are only training indoors, they do a good job of that for a beginner level rider IMO

    • @dan0368
      @dan0368 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@nerocoaching thanks! I'm going to give build me up a try this winter. Last winter I was all over the place and didn't really grow my ftp at all.

  • @BarePotato
    @BarePotato Pƙed 2 lety

    Can you do this for Trainerroad? I usually use their workout instead of the ones in Zwift.

  • @nbo7063
    @nbo7063 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Can you do this for Trainerroad?

  • @winbrendan
    @winbrendan Pƙed rokem

    Can you do best and worst base, build, race workouts -agnostic to zwift

  • @zBordiYT
    @zBordiYT Pƙed 2 lety +1

    The Gorby is definitely too hard for me!! Can't push that power from the 4th set đŸ€”đŸ˜±

  • @DISCOhooch
    @DISCOhooch Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Hi. What do u think about Zwf Academy 2021 workouts, Over/Under and Lactate Tolerance. Thanks.

    • @nerocoaching
      @nerocoaching  Pƙed 2 lety +1

      czcams.com/video/PV7JwvhbmFQ/video.html

    • @DISCOhooch
      @DISCOhooch Pƙed 2 lety

      @@nerocoaching lol i choosed 2 high scored workouts :D

  • @ronp5615
    @ronp5615 Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

    The Gorby and The Wringer!

  • @MateusMartinss
    @MateusMartinss Pƙed rokem

    I like the video, In summary: 5x5 @ 105% and 6x3m @ vo2Max and 2x20m sweet spot, that's all that matters

  • @MartinOroszi
    @MartinOroszi Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Re SST what do you recommend to take as a % of your FTP? I usually go with 88%-94%, however i find there is a big difference between the two ends. (say doing a 4x10) Cheers

    • @nerocoaching
      @nerocoaching  Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Yeh that's a massive range, I find about 91% to be the "sweet spot" of sweet spot 😛

    • @MrTimZoR1337
      @MrTimZoR1337 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@nerocoaching now all we need is the duration sweet spot of a SST workout :) probably depends on your training goals. But if I want to train for a race that will take me about 90 minutes to finish. Is 60 min the sweet spot?

    • @weiwenng8096
      @weiwenng8096 Pƙed rokem

      Speaking of this, I believe the Zwift SST workouts are set at 95% FTP. And maybe it’s just me, but I always find them really draining. The tempo blocks seem to leave me really drained. I have liked the ODZwift workouts, but for some reason, those are not always on the list of workouts.

  • @jhref
    @jhref Pƙed 2 lety +1

    They give massive recovery intervals because most people on zwift are rolling around with a FTP estimate that is WAYYYY too high. They'd have tiny completion rates if they did the 6-8 min recovery.

    • @nerocoaching
      @nerocoaching  Pƙed 2 lety +1

      I'd agree with this, especially if using "road" FTP which is usually higher than trainer FTP for most people

    • @rz1653
      @rz1653 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      I have to ride around with an FTP estimate WAYYYY to high because otherwise all workouts would be too easy

  • @dropatrain
    @dropatrain Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

    but I NEED the tempo bits cuz the sweet spot bits are too haaard ='(((

  • @sebastiankita
    @sebastiankita Pƙed 2 lety +1

    i have not tried gorby but I have done much "harder" workouts like 6x8 min with 4 min recovery at threshold / 105-110% ftp and it was relatively easy. so it seems impossible not to be able to finish it.

  • @alex9046
    @alex9046 Pƙed rokem +1

    Gorby AKA The Quitter AKA I dont think your FTP is what you say it is

  • @lachlan_bakewell
    @lachlan_bakewell Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

    I can't finish the gorby with my FTP set accurately. The 4th interval breaks me and I can only get through 2 minutes on the last interval. Definitely pushing the limits which is good. Can't imagine the average cyclist doing this twice a week.