Picking the wrong defensive rifle.
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When people go looking for that first rifle, many times they get distracted by the cool new stuff and don't think about how other, better, option may exist. - Zábava
thank you Paul Harrell
Amen to that
@@Pavia1525Paul isn't dead yet. He's doing a class sometime in like the next week?
@@AsukaLangleyS02 Thank Goodness!
Respect for repping Paul. Stellar human being
The Ar-15 was the first rifle my husband taught me to shoot a little bit after we married.
Coming from Japan and living in a country with very strict gun laws almost nobody has one
i felt safer in the USA when my husband trained me. Interestingly enough i held and shot Airsoft AR-15s growing up and i was amazed how realistic my brother’s blowback airsoft version is.
I’m glad my husband brought me into this community and i was amazed that my husband who is
South African was very at home with Galil style rifles and FN Fal. His go to rifle at home and at work is the AR-15. Great reliability and perfect in my hands.
Welcome to the 2A community!
Do you know what also might be perfect in your hands?
CZ-75 maybe
@@MavHunter20XX actually my husband owns one
Wholesome.
Your husband sounds like an awesome man. We Americans love international pro gun people. Sounds like a wholesome family.
I'm English and I applaud your 2nd amendment. I have followed Paul for a number of years and I'm saddened by this terrible news. My heart goes out to his family, friends and all those in the 2A community that followed Paul and enjoyed his content as I did. God bless you Paul.
You have the same right in the English Bill of Right 1689
@@miguellogistics984 You are correct but that has all been forgotten by design, the people that run this once great country have decided that we the British people are the scourge of the world for the industrial revolution and have to reigned in. We are in a period of managed decline by our ruling classes. There will be no accountability by them until we all wake up and hold them to account. At the very least lots of these treasonous clowns need to be in jail. Will that happen? I seriously doubt it.
Paul is legend, he will be sorely missed. I cut my 2A youtube teeth on Paul and Nutnfancy videos.
Thanks for mentioning Paul. Last night on Paul's Community tab he posted a photo of himself with the gold play button, so thank you to Donut and everyone else who got it expedited.
Paul Harrell is a Legend
I have an old Sig Saure 556 classic. It's no longer supported by Sig. Love the rifle, but parts are difficult to find. Glad you made this point.
That is a Classic example of that point.
Which is a shame because I think the Sig 556 is a much cooler rifle and it fits me much better than the AR does.
@@DocMitchell69 glad it fit you. In the stock format. It was very uncomfortable for me. I had to change it a lot.
The sig 551/552 is the best by far looks and feels kool
The 556 was such a great one. Sig really went downhill since then.
Hail to Paul! My self defense rifle has been an M1 Carbine since 1964, when I got 5 (for $20 each) from CMP through NRA delivered by USPS.
My first "defensive rifle" I owned was a Ruger Mini-14. I had owned a 10/22 since I was a kid, so already was familiar with Ruger firearms and the Mini-14 was a natural choice.
My current defensive rifle isn't even a rifle: it is my ADM UIC MOD 2 AR pistol in 300 BLK with an 8" barrel for with a suppressor.
S&W M&P Sport 2 is the first gun anyone should buy. They're cheap, reliable, and proven. No bells and whistles but it will get you a solid platform to learn on while you decide on what esoteric gun malarkey you're into.
Agree 100% on getting a basic m4. And yes I wish AK wouldn’t have had the import ban on the parts and ammo.
Sound logic for a 1st rifle.
A short video on recommended Support accessories i.e: spare parts kits, core tools, printed literature, (relying on the internet being around in a shizznit is unwise), and so on would have value.
Keeping the focus on affordability,portability and availability would be appreciated.
I agree that a more "basic" AR is the best choice if that is your only/first rifle. I would recommend just a couple of things over just an "M4" clone. 1. An M-lok handguard for simplifying adding attachments which people will inevitably want, and 2. a mid-length gas system, which makes the gun more pleasant to shoot. Other than that, simpler (parts commonality) is probably better.
Kudos to Donut, MAC, and everyone else supporting Paul Harrell. He's shared a wealth of absolutely invaluable information over the years in an interesting/entertaining way and he will be sorely missed.
My go to riffles are mil spec AR's. Bcm, DD, older Colts and LWRC. But thats just my choice.
I think the most daunting part of buying an AR for new buyers is all the models and accessories. M4, Flat top, m lok, mod loc, picatinny, calibers, etc.
I remember when I bought my first years ago and being so overwhelmed when I looked across the counter at several rows of AR’s and thinking WTH? They kind of look the same. Lol.
Yeah that's why shop owners need to have knowledge in what they're selling and ability to explain to the customers. Its shouldn't be treated like going to a convenience store with different flavors of potato chips. Its why I don't own an ar. I've shot them a bit, but charging handle is just always awkward for me and 5.56 feels a little under-powered living in the plains. Sadly fatass Pritzker and his cronies made them illegal for now, supreme court will have step in soon
Agreed, I helped my brother in law pick one out recently. Ended up with a Griffin MK2. It’s a great mid tier AR if you ask me .
It's the point where Kimber fans and AR fans overlap: paying drastically different prices for slightly different versions of the same thing. 😅😂
MAC: Don't use newly developed proprietary designed rifles for self defense.
Also MAC: Ditching the 5.56 for a Sig MCX Spear.
Haha true, I think it's because:
He's an expert level firearms enthusiast.
His advice is towards novices.
@@foxtrotunit1269 Thanks, that and I have more AR15's than most countries have M16's.
Today he's ditching the 5.56 and tomorrow he will be chucking the Spear. Get it?
@@lanceblinent7909
Soon I’ll have a F’n FN.
🤷♂️ Sorry I couldn’t resist.
🤣👍🥃
Truth
Thank you for your support and kindness to Paul & his wife. 🙏 A lot of us have bought his commemorative shirt 👍😎.
My thoughts and Prayers got out to Paul,Harrell and his family. I’ve been through this with my Dear Departed Wife, the pain is almost more than you can bear. Prayers! 💔🙏
Basic milspec style AR. Don't need a fancy lower. Don't need a fancy trigger. Don't need Gucci parts. Get a 599 PSA special, spare parts, ammo, and then train.
Gunsmiths have always made a good living....as long as they work 60 hours a week and 80 hours during hunting season.
hmmm but you can have a home office or a home shop too. But yah 80hrs a week is, doable. But a lot. But doable.
@@nozrep already done there bud
also, there’s “hobbyist” gunsmiths. Like, real, but also for a hobby. Not hobby as in fake and not serious. Hobby as in for real but not as a job. For example my dad’s. Has full FFL clearance and builds and works on guns. But is all word of mouth only and is retired from his main oil and gas career, highly successful. And, only builds a few guns a year, and, worked on my dad’s gun for free because he just likes my dad or something. Full shop. K not cnc barrel making machine full. But full hobbyist type shop to do reloading and tweak scopes and barrels and to build guns from parts kits and stuff. And he does not work a full time schedule.
@@dn88sok
Get to it!
The AR15 is hands down the go-to rifle these days. Absolutely agree that it is America's rifle.
One of the best features of the AR15 is when something isn't going right it's easy to narrow down what the problem is. That problem is usually inexpensive to correct and most likely doesn't require a gunsmith or armorer. My first AR wss nothing but problems. I took all my surplus GI mags and replaced the followers with Magpul brand and went ahead and replaced the springs with chrome silicon type. That was over 15 years ago and i havent had a malfunction since then. Keep it pretty clean and lubed up. I think this video is pretty solid advice.
Blessings to Paul. We love the man!
Prayers for Paul! 🙏
AR first - parts are everywhere!
Wow! I did t know he had terminal cancer. I thought he was just undergoing treatment. 😢
yes, he was. He did. Sometimes treatment does not work and a person still becomes terminal. Especially with pancreatic cancer, for some reason.
It’s one of those cancers that by the time you are symptomatic to realize you have it your prognosis is bad as it’s probably spread to multiple nearby organ systems. :(. That’s also why colon cancer is usually fatal if not picked up by a colonoscopy because if a tumor gets big enough to cause a bowel obstruction it’s pretty big and probably spread through your body. God bless Paul and his family he seemed like a good dude.
Pancreatic Cancer has only 6% survival rate. I remember only hearing of one person surviving it about 3 years ago vs the hundreds or thousands of folks who have not. If someone gets it, the odds are really stacked against them. I think the average life expectancy after diagnosis is probably measured in months.
A PSA AR15, or even an IWI Zion. If you're going to go AR pistol, or just want similar ballistics to an AK, I recommend an AR15 chambered in 300 blackout. Make sure to get a light, optic, and sling. Even if that's all you put on it.
Got my shirt on order. Thanks so much to Paul for all the wonderful videos and super info!
JAKL. The new ACR SCAR that we can all afford, and with a lifetime warranty.
I got one in 300 BLK and love it. THAT SAID mine at least is a bit finicky on gas settings for different ammo. I understand that "tuning" the gun to your chosen ammo is a feature, but may not be desirable for someone who's not "AR experienced". I've never had a direct gas impingement AR of any caliber which didn't run 100% with any ammo I put through it. I would get a JAKL as a 2nd MDR but not as a first/only. Just one guy's opinion.
308 for sure
if they are ever in stock.
The jakl is for people doing mental gymnastics thinking they got an equivalent of the scar. Save up your money and buy the real thing
Hard pass on a scar. Everything wrong with the scar is fixed on the jakl. I have shot both the jakl is way smoother and way better to suppress and much easy to maintain.@@ihurricane7
God, Bless Paul and his family, Amen.
Probably the most under rated 1st rifle i think is the Smith and Wesson M&P 15. Would fit the purpose of probably 98% of firearm owners.
Good video! Thanks,,, Prayers and thoughts with the Harrell family ❤️
From what I’ve seen in gun shops they try to steer the customer towards the most expensive option and if you listen close you can tell the person behind the counter is untrained. It’s sad.
Had that experience too . Dude was trying to sell me a $2,000 AR15 for crying out loud 😂
@@JohnnyReb-tr2fs Same here - being a total newbie I ended up not buying anything, and still haven't - still trying to determine who to trust. It doesn't help that I live in a very restrictive state.
Hoping and praying Paul and his family will be OK through this. Thank you, Paul, for your fantastic channel, you did amazing work.
Thank you for this video and I must admit the world of firearms will be a little less brighter without Paul Harrell around God bless him and his family
Firing any unsuppressed rifle indoors in the dark is a bad idea.
Really enjoyed. Fantastic info and very helpful, thanks
Thank you for watching.
GOD bless Paul Harrell 🙏🏼
Plan on having no parts available, be your own armory, for whatever you choose. Even when times are "good" it's hard to find proprietary parts.
big fucking props to Robinson Arms for actually making spares and having them available for the XCR.
We all honour Paul Harell, through all friendly channels. God bless Paul, from France, european continent..
Thank you Paul, for all you have done
Nice work with the shoutout to Paul. You're a good man Tim!
100% agree. AR 15, M4 platform for all the reasons you said. You did a video a long time ago on the Colt LE6920 being the best AR15 carbine for around 1K…I took that advice and have never regretted it. My first long gun. Put and Aimpoint PRO, a sling, and a white light on it and it’s everything you need / nothing you don’t. I don’t know if new Colt’s are as good…I have heard they farm out most of the parts now.
Been reading great things about Fenben for late stage cancer. From the vet, affordable. Good luck
Home defense gun is ar in 9mm 33rds mags I have a fal for perimeter use and hunting. I keep shotguns in different places for backup defense.😊and yes I have ar 15 s and tons of ammunition for all 😊.
I personally agree with your comments. I started shooting AR's back in '85, started building them in '90. I even built one from cast off parts that my friends said needed improvement, only part I bought was a Rainier lower. A real mixmaster it just displays the interchangeability of parts with none being from the same manufacturer. It shoots to 3/4moa, functions' flawlessly with anything I feed it and still serves to this day as my truck gun. As for a defensive weapon 5.56 would not be my first choice. In my case home or very close in defense a long gun always beats a handgun and I find a AR pistol in 9mm or the one I have in 45ACP using Grease Gun mags fill the bill. I'm not looking for a firefight and where I live engaging a target over 10 yards can land you behind bars. Overpenetration is an issue and even the 9mm out of a 11.5" barrel with the increased velocity can be a concern. Just to show the versatility of the AR platform I am building a Flightlite lever action that uses AR uppers, my choice is 350 Legend. Everyone loves a lever gun and with mags in the lower you can use spitzer bullets, the 350L gives you the choice of full power 200gr hunting loads or 158gr cast plinkers at 5 cents/round or anything in between because it's not gas operated. Literally the AR platform is the modern kit gun and with the gamut of calibers available form 22lr to 450 Raptor it can fill any role.
SCAR vs. ACR was one of the first video series from you I started watching & got me to subscribe. Back in the day!
Paul Harrell is the BOSS, so my T-shirt order is in. I will always where it with pride and respect for the master gun tuber. If you see this Paul, I have been with you from the beginning, and will stick with you till the end. I'm a cancer survivor of 23 years now myself, so I understand to some small degree.
I have the Tavor X95 rifle and I think it's staying for a long time. And I have many replacement parts already purchased in case something breaks down.
Thank you for the video and my sympathy for Paul Harrell.
I have a SIG MCX .300blk with a 9 inch barrel, specifically for home defence. It shoots well and is VERY accurate out to 50yds. It's light and easy to move around with indoors.
When you own enough AR'S you have parts around everywhere and that's definitely not a bad thing also you can build them in many configurations I love AR'S and AK'S
Prayers for Paul and his family🙏🏼. As far as the video is concerned, sound advice. My first rifle is a Bushmaster XM-15, excellent go to rifle.
1st home defense rifle: Classic AR-15 (I agree w/MAC), or a Mini-14.
If all calibers are considered: Get a PCC in 9x19 from a reputable manufacturer for your first.
Also, God bless Paul Harrell.
I think that too many people utilize a 5.56 rifle without assessing overpenetration. I live in the suburbs and my rifles are absolutely not utilized as a home defense option. I however have quite a bit of training with handguns, so 19X is my choice. I do agree with a reliable pcc for most new gun owners though.
@Catgat37 100% agree. My 1st "home defense rifle" was in fact a PCC chambered in 45 ACP for the very reason of better assurance I wouldn't shoot an innocent neighbor through a wall.
ARs are for outdoors, IMO. When you need to use your indoor voice, PCC is the choice.
@@Radd_AZ I would love to find a nice pcc in 45. My next firearms purchase will have to suffice for now. First handgun that I actually want to get a can for lol.
@@Catgat37 I bought a CMMG Banshee 8" bbl in 45 ACP and couldn't be happier. Will be suppressed as soon as my tax stamp gets completed.
@@Radd_AZ that would be a good option 🤔. Pretty sure I am gonna have to do an SBR SP5K build as my next option though.
Yes, Paul's videos are fantastic. There's no flash but terrific information like this channel plus all of his experience and logic.
NOT getting an AR15 in 5.56 or .223 Wylde as your first defensive rifle is an ABSOLUTE mistake. Run - don't walk - away from anyone recommending otherwise. They do not have your best interest at heart.
Thank you for joining the call to arms for paul
For SHTF purposes you are very correct. Plus, the modularity is stellar. I got a Bushmaster during the assault weapon ban (when it was still the original company). It was an AR-15 A2 variant. It had a heavy barrel with no threading, bayonet lug etc. When the ban lapsed, I bought a Mil-Spec barrel. It was a breeze to put in. The original barrel is very good, for hunting. It is a simple matter to get a flat top upper receiver, a free floated handguard, put a scope on it and now you have a long-range varmint gun. With the right ammo you could even take deer. And it just pops on to the lower which takes, what, a minute.
For handguns, the same. I would recommend a Glock, a Beretta 92, a 1911 and now perhaps a SIG P-320. Of course, there are lots of other guns to collect and shoot.
Another great video Tim! Can you do a video on how to properly zero an LPVO? Should you use the factory recommendation so that your BDC's line up or should you use a combat zero, then figure out where your BDC's line up?
I’d recommend for first time buyers of the AR15 either BCM or Sons of Liberty Gunworks.
Great video 😊
There are lots of good rifles out there, many I say make a great choice. However if I’m making recommendations to someone new to it all, I’d say either an AR or AK. The parts, accessories, etc. are out there for them. They’re well understood, and there is a good reason they are so long lived.
When the click bait is actually good lol
I'm a weapons collector for the last 45yrs...100% agree with this video.
Getting a mil-spec AR 15 is the way to go.
You can add more advanced or particular parts as you learn what you can actually benefit from.
It is a process though. Figure out what kind of trigger, furniture, buffer, muzzle device, etc. you want add you find out what fits you.
Been subscribed to Paul for years. Absolutely devastated about the news.
Agreed. It's absolutely horrible news.
The AR-15 is an AMAZING value, and an amazing rifle. Everyone should have one (or more), IMO.
Thank you for your opinion, Tim. Part availability is an important factor for picking a suitable defensive rifle
Shirt bought. The entire situation brought me to tears the other night. Broke down unexpectedly. I spent many thanksgivings and Christmases with his videos when I had no family to share with. Never thought through how important it was to me. That was until I thought of those videos not being there anymore
And seriously. He put out Christmas and Thanksgiving videos that were mindless I guess at the time. Din't know how important to my sanity they were until thinking they may be gone.
Great content
For Paul 🙏🙏🙏
What about the S&W M&P Sport 2? I own one and I love it!
11:13 wait so…. PSA owns Remington now right? And Remington owned Bushmaster yah? And they made the ACR yah? So is PSA gonna do an ACR too? If they bought Remington’s rights and designs out of bankruptcy? or Franklin armory?
One of the most underrated channels !
Paul is the man! Prayers ongoing. AR15 backed up with my SOCOM 16.
It is so good to see the gun community supporting Paul Harrell. I have had a chance to meet and talk with him twice at gun shows. His videos are brilliant. He is in person, exactly like what you see in his videos.
GOD Bless Paul Harrell
I bought myself a Paul Harrell shirt. Thanks for posting the link.
Glad you mentioned market flip because its always happens between the AR and AK.
Great discussion subject. Personally AFTER a mil spec vanilla AR for all the reasons that you mentioned, the rifle that I would consider for home defense/SHTF, truck gun, etc. is the AUG for its compactness and admittedly that 80s cool factor. But first I would buy an AR, letter the toys
I have always believed that domestic ammo sales will directly correlate with the probability of resupply from the world when all the factories go quiet.
I want something that gives Yogi pause, eats SAPI plates, has abundant logistical resupply, simple and reliable mechanics, and hyper versatility/interoperability. As of right now, MAC has totally sold me on the SFAR as my first civilian rifle.
16in Galil ACE in 556 and 308. Colt 6940 and a few mix master m4geries protect the home.
ar-15 def. lower can be kept as you configure the rest to your growing preference.
the bren2 was my first carbine for defensive use. No regrets, suppresses better than an AR and you can fold the stock for storage.
We love you Paul your like my grandpa that was over the internet what a good soul
I agree completely with the choice and reasoning. Thanks for the content. God Bless you and yours.
Thanks for a good, thoughtful video. For new shooters, latest hotness can be really tempting.
As a FUDD! and a rather low-income one at that, I lean toward 'service grade' 'budget' guns.
My Dad carried the Thompson in the Army during WWII, I bought the semi-automatic version, 1927A-1 from Kahr firearms,.45acp, heavy and intimidating.
How about a general Jackal review it’s even more modular now. Look forward to an upload related to the jackal in all its new different configs although I loathe bullpups in general, but I’m some how really intrigued by it. That would be good to hear your take and thoughts on it once it becomes available to you for review. Many thanks MAC. Oh and my thoughts go out to Paul and his family at this moment, I can relate it’s tough.
M1A with standard, carbine or 16 inch barrel. Parts everywhere, reliable, and shoots 7.62x51. Easily scoped, red doted and magazines everywhere.
Legendary rifle
Totally agree, Tim. You know I like all the modern designs that have essentially evolved from the ACR just like you do, but when I am working in the store and someone is looking for their first defensive rifle, off we head to the AR rack where we start talking budget to help guide them into a rifle package, and I do that for the exact reasons you listed.
Now, once you have your defensive AR all sorted out, dialed in and you are proficient with it, and maybe even have a backup AR to go with it, now let's start talking about some other newer designs...
Paul’s the Mr Rogers of the 2A community. We grew up watching Paul or grew with Paul’s videos. I can swing $30. So I bought a shirt. So we can identify each other in the wild, I’ll be wearing mine.
Which is important because the Virginia house and senate passed an assault weapon and high capacity magazine ban last week.
12:48 If the soldiers' barrel is bent or the optic is shot, you could still salvage parts from it to repair your own rifle.
Also: you don't know the status of that rifle; you do know your own rifle, so picking it up as merely spare parts is a valid option.
Good points, Tim. Although I've recently become interested in the Caracal CAR816A2, it makes sense to have at least one AR.
Thinking of buying one myself, due to the cost and quality build.
Spot on! Get a standard, learn to use it, expand from there.
Respect 🫡
AR-15 hands down. It's modular like a Lego set. Custom build from parts to suit. Don't need "Gucci Gear". Plenty of solidly made components that won't break the bank. Repair in field can use what's available that works and will suffice temporarily. First rifle as an adult was M14. Second was M16A1. Current Ar-15 is more flexible than the M16A1 or M16A2.
Buy the lightest 5.56 you can afford. That has a rifle barrel.
After a long wait, finally got a Perun X16 upper. Has some parts capatibility with the AR15. AR 15 lower with buffer tower removed, AR 15 bolt, firing pin, and barrel. Would still recomemnd an AR. You can get a BCM RECCE for less than what I paid just for the upper. Caracal 816 A2 isn't a bad option if someone wants a piston driven AR.
I like that the JAKL works with any mil-spec lower with just an adapter for the buffer tower. No permanent modification needed.
@@Clean97gti CMMG Dissent, and the BRN-180 will use an AR lower as well.
I like the Bren 2 a lot. I got the elusive 14 inch 5.56 for a rifle conversion. Plan to run a Griffin Explorr when I finally get that approved.