I Tiled this 2 Year Old Shower and It FAILED! Find out WHY
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- This is a follow up to a video I did where we tried to do a repair on a subway tile shower that was cracking on 2 of the 3 walls. We initially thought we could just repair the cracked tiles, but as we tried to remove the tiles, the cracking got worse and it ended up being too much work to try to repair.
In this video I describe what went wrong-- a combination of a one coat float (TCNA method B4441-14) with Aquabar paper behind it as the required cleavage membrane, and a soft bisque ceramic subway tile. Also, when I tore it out, I noticed that water had seeped under the Schluter kerdi drain into the mortar bed below.
We are re-building this shower at our cost, and are going to use all of our experience and resources to build the best shower possible for our clients.
Please leave your comments in the section below and find me on instagram @tilecoach. - Zábava
I have so much respect for companies that make mistakes and have the courage to share it with others.
A lot of "mistakes" is a problem.
It's extremely rare. But the companies that have integrity are worth their weight in gold.
@@jameslydon3314 what this guy said. A few of this channel's videos have popped up now. Rectifying your many fuck ups doesn't deserve respect, they need to stop fucking up 🤨
he's getting paid, so.....
yep thats right an i agree with that. We dont see that here at our country,in the contrary they would rip us off even more and go lie about it. Greetz from Belgium.
Make a mistake, learn from it, jump back on the saddle and go! We never stop learning and will always keep evolving! Great video 👊
Have you ever had any issues with schluter-kerdi products? Years on installation for me with 0 issues.
So we'll said. You would be surprised if you don't know already how many people refuse or just do not think like that. They continue to blame everyone and everything to prevent looking directly in the morror. That says lot about a contractor. This guy is one of the good ones. I have no doubt.
@@jeanclaudevandam4974 I think he is a good tile contractor too and it's good to see there are people that go back and make things right.
Have you ever learnt about a mistake and it cause a wide scale rework?
U have to find the studs and put some water resistance nails holding the chicken wire to the wall and that will hold the mud ok the wAll
Have to respect this guy, ill hire him any day. He stands behind his work.
Facts
Same. Wish I didn’t live 2000 miles from where he works.
Really??? A guy who thought staples would hold chicken wire , plastering compound and tile weight on the wall? He’d be laughed off the sites here in the uk this guy , he’s what we call a cowboy 🤠
If you do the job right and know what your doing, these situations should never happen, seems like dude verily had his license for a bit after working a year and did this project, plus he's literally licensed for only this trade lol
You are the biggest fan of the tilecoach!! Or you are the tilecoach?
Honest, responsible not afraid of admitting his mistakes this is what so called "professionals" are missing a lot
Much respect to you for taking responsibility . Too many of these jobbers will leave the homeowner hanging.Thats why you are still in business 20 years later.👍
The sign of a true craftsman is not only the job he does but additionally how he stands behind his work.
Amen
I've written your words down, could well become my motto.
Man this guy got balls! I knew a bunch of contractor as a plumber myself that think they are perfect and never make any mistakes! Respect.
You're a really upstanding guy. You stand behind your work. You did exactly what I would have done if I did tiling for a living and things didn't work out. I'm always amazed at contractors I hire for various projects who tell me "I've never had a problem" when I question the way they are doing something. They've never had a problem because they don't live in the house, and 5 years down the road they're long gone, the homeowner can't remember who they hired to do the job, or the house has changed hands. Nice to see someone like yourself who stands behind your work. By the way, you didn't make a mistake. You installed the shower using methods that were acceptable at the time, but in retrospect were obviously inadequate. Thanks for the video!
I was skeptical watching this guy since his showers keep failing but its a very good learning experience! I applaude this man, very few people have the balls to admit their mistakes let alone post videos of it!
He doesn't post all his successes because you would be bored with that. It's like the nightly news, you would think that only bad things happen.
Isaac, Thank You; your transparency is much appreciated. Here on the east coast, the old-school wall tile method, dating to the 1960's was a perforated sheet metal lath (not just wire) attached directly to the studs, followed by the mud bed and then the finish tile. I've taken them down for remodeling, and have yet to see that system have a failure, after all these years.
This gentleman is a class act. An example for all of us.
I have learned alot from my mistakes. Alot of the time I thought I was right. As I've gotten more experienced and learned from people who are humble enough to share their experiences like yourself.I think you are a great example of what a good attitude is and I know your customers appreciate your responsibility. Thanks man.
Learn from the right people and this won't happen, try and cut corners and you'll be installing tile on drywall, omg fail, just stop ✋
Good on you for honoring your warranty. That is so important in our field of work!
Love seeing someone care for their craft. The systems and tech we use are always changing and there is always more to learn. Thanks for modeling the spirit and integrity of a true craftsman!
Top man stand by his work and his reputation. As a tradesman myself I see far 2 many examples of this type of thing then the installer washing his hands for the job. Credit 2 his profession.
Your showers are completely different than what we are required in Southern CA. We do vapor barrier to the studs, then mesh, then scratch coat, then final coat which ends up about 1 inch thick. You would never be able to tear one out as easily as you just did, because ours are stapled to studs not drywall. I personally have never had a leak in 30 years (knock on wood) doing it the old school way. It is tempting to want to try out some of these other ways, but if it aint broke..... Its nice that you are actually showing us a failure you did, and I enjoy all your videos.
Easy to see why you are successful! Winning attitude and customer service. I’ve been in floor covering 15+ years and unfortunately have replaced some of my work too. Sucks answering that phone call. Sucks going back and fixing. But here’s one good way I look at it. Your customer has enough respect for you that they want you to come back and fix it. You made The right impression on them and gained trust. That’s very rare and you should be very proud. Keep up the good work!!
John Steier 100%
No he just good at talkin shit
I ve had call backs too and it makes me feel like leaving the country, I hate it , especially hurts as I try my best to do good job and still something happens,tile center s or manufacturer s will always blame you too
I love these type of videos the most actually.
I like seeing this other 'dark' side of the job.
They are really very interesting and a great food for thought.
Thank you very much for uploading them and educating us all.
He is a valuable asset to youtube viewers who are training in building design and other areas. This helps customers to know what to expect when they want a bathroom shower or renovate one.
Alot of tile guys do work of what they were shown how to do it when they started from older gentlemen. And they stick with it and run with it. And in there mind they think that should be the only way of doing it. But the ones that venture off and think common sense and dig in on how step by steps are supposed to work and why and then they put there twist to tweak the imperfections to prevent failures are the ones that succeed . I can tell over the years how much you growned and by doing experiments and how you think before doing. Shows signs of a true craftsman. And especially a man standing by your work and doing the right thing by fixing your failures.
Hey isaac! im a young tile installer in the sf bay area,i just want to thank you for all of your videos. It takes a lot to post things like this, but it definitely helps and shows what could happen with certain installation methods. Super educational, this is just a small bump in the road. You got this!
Are you a union guy
No i work for a private tile company!
Love seeing the fails and have even more respect for you to help others learn from it. Just shows you’re a man of your word!
You seem to be an honest man that stands behind his work. I like that. The tile contractors I hire lack all of the above. Thank you for the information.
You know what I like about your videos... your honesty.
We’ve all made mistakes. We’ve all learned better ways of doing things.
I also love the fact that you know the cost of doing something right is far more than the cost of labour used to fix rectifying a mistake.
Hats off to you.
So i have followed a lot of your videos. I have been Professionally installing tile in upstate NY for almost 15 years now. I don't fully understand these float/skim coats you put on all your walls. As a professional unless its a kitchen counter backslash I NEVER tile over drywall. Drywall is meant for paint and that's about it. To fully rely on that much weight on drywall is crazy to me. I ALWAYS go down to the studs in bathrooms. I put up 1/2" Hardi Board with both Glue and 1 5/8" Screws. I always tape and seam every corner with a Heavy Duty quality Mesh tape. then i do what ever waterproofing i am using. I have never had a call back or a problem with my tiling cracking or coming off. I like your quality of work you do and keep up the amazing videos! I look forward to all of your videos
Why don’t you use hardy board or cement board,
Fuck that plaster board in the b room or shower
Not a problem to tile over drywall. Where did you get that it is not acceptable practise. Normal approved practise in all Eu Basically. Only for public pools saunas and similar super damp applications you need glassrock or durock backer boards. If you have a problem with tiles over green drywall only 2 things happened. 1. Your framing was a problem or 2. You did something wrong with waterproofing.
It has been common to install green board and mesh tape the seams--install tile--grout and caulk with silicone caulk. In a tub situation this can last 10 to 15 years but eventually the paper separates and mold grows. You get stud rot also. what accelerates the failure is when the wall gets give and the grout gets cracks. At 10 years the person who did the job has vanished. The old wire mesh attached directly to studs and thick mud job has lasted 70 to 100 years. The walls dry out from inside as the moisture migrates slowly inward and the cement does not degrade any more than sidewalks do if there is no freeze and thaw cycle. This is for the New York City area.
Man I’ve watched a lot of your content and based my own install off most of it. I work with contractors all day and none own their mistakes like you do. A man of his word. Godspeed
I would hire you in a heartbeat. Integrity speaks volumes. You never see if someone has it until the specific point in time its needed. Well done!
Love your humility and integrity ❤️ ... some may say your work fails but I see a caring loving man who is humble enuff to share the failures and the triumphs! You could do 100 that never failed and share one went wrong and others will crucify you over 1 fail and give ugly comments. I wonder what they would do if they were in your shoes. People will focus on the wrong and never praise you for the 100 that went right. Your caring loving heart is a blessing. I pray others would see your Transparency and the gift you are giving back to your community. 🙏♥️ trial and error is how it's done. We strive in life for excellence. We can never reach perfect because this world is in a fallen state because of sin. Thank you for loving others and inspiring others to try and realize they to will make mistakes. Thank you Sir for Sharing and being salt and light. Keep bringing the goodness of God into your work. Humble your self before God and He will lift you up! He will continue to bless you and carry you and honor you! 🙏 God Bless You Sir Jesus Loves You!
Nice work Issac. Some of those approved tiling/waterproofing systems in America are really terrible.
In Australia, we only tend to use two methods:
1) For brick walls, we apply the cement render directly to the brickwork. Then generally a roll on waterproofing membrane over the dried render. Then we are ready for tiling.
2) For timber framed homes, 6mm (1/4 inch) fibre cement sheeting nailed directly onto the timber studs (I think your US equivalent is hardiebacker maybe?). Then generally a roll on waterproofing membrane over the fibre cement board. Then we are ready for tiling.
No paper/tar paper rubbish, no staples, no lath etc. Simple and effective.
I agree. That's the tried-and-true method that has last for centuries.
Schluter systems is a German company.
@@josephb3147
We do it all little different here in Australia, our Villaboard (6mm fibre cement sheet) never gets wet. Any areas where it would come into contact with water - it gets completely waterproofed (usually a roll on liquid membrane over the board itself.
Although yes - I do agree that any fibre cement product that gets continually wet does become brittle and weak over time. 👍
Thanks for showing the mistakes. We all make em, even though some don't admit it. Best you can do is learn from it and build it better.
After 43 years in commercial and residential construction I don't even know where to begin. The shower needs to be one hundred percent waterproof before you even begin to put on tile! However, standing behind your work is admirable
I think you’re an honest guy who stands by any of your jobs.
And have the balls to post the fails which a lot of people wouldn’t broadcast. Keep on pal.
More jobs in the near future. I have encountered this everytime I had to renovate lately. I like the easy tear out.
Kudo's to you for backing up your work.
this guy is an example to how a contracter should be. hats off to you sir !
I learned tile on the go from my last boss. I really hope none of the showers I did have this many failures 😬. Your a good man to fix your mistakes.
Kickass. Ardex 8+9 the whole f’in thing and it ain’t gonna leak again baby
Man here in michigan, we use durarock backer, no drywall. we been doing that for many many years. Those standards in cali need to be reset lol
i lived 30 years in michigan of which we used only durock no issues ever ,, now i live in az , so many usless standards lol
I just discovered you today I looked at you several years ago I think. I like your honesty and your integrity I'm in the state of Minnesota. I'm designer and Junior Architect by trade. I started learning tile from one of my brothers who is a tile artisan. I like your honesty and your integrity keep up the good work sir. I only tile maybe every couple of years. Great job sir
Mistakes don't make a Man or a Company.
Positive Response & Correction does.
You Sir, have conveyed that ideal, ever since I subscribed!
This video is the greatest example of your ability to diagnose, remedy and complete the challenge.
I have much respect for you & all of your efforts.
Diagnose, remedy & move on.
Great video!
TII
This dude is always making videos about his failed work 🤣🤣 I live the honesty but do it right the first time , cut no corners and you'll never fail!!
Exactly
Agree 100%. Durock has been around for many years. Common sense tells me if you don't anchor your wall it free floats and falls right out.
But then how will he make CZcams money?
Thanks for these videos that relates to the schluter system. It's confirming my " what if's " I had years ago with this system.
Isaac, your a good man to take the time to educate people you will never meet. You are protecting customers, DIY’ers and installers from financial disasters.
I've been tiling for 35 years. I have always use 4 mil visqueen on the studs with 1/2 Durock over that. Thinset all tile. For the first time in my career, I tore out a steam/shower I installed over 15 years ago. For once I was able to see how the system held up. Demo was off the charts difficult. The tile was a 6x6 ceramic. The base was corian. No sign of any water behind the tile. I never use liquid waterproofing. If the installation is done right, all these new and improved methods/products are not needed.
Love and respect the work you do keep them coming I love learning from you
My god. Do you know how many showers in walnut creek are done exactly that way. It was the way we did it before hardie and wonder board was invented.
Dude I feel for you on this one. Way to stand up 🤙🏼 I never knew why drywall would be acceptable in a shower, regardless of what goes on top. I always cut out the drywall and install durock.
Perfectly acceptable to have green drywall. Durock is better but Europe there are 100 000's of green drywall installs with few failures if the waterproofing is done properly.
Lubomir Klinga I understand that it’s acceptable. But having come across several shower failures in the past, in my opinion I won’t use it because I feel there could be a failure with the papers adhesion to the gypsum. Overall I would choose to go with a fully waterproof board, not water resistant. Haven’t we seen such tests on this channel with shower pans? Wet drywall (moisture resistant or not) equals mold and or gypsum erosion. No worries just my opinion 🤙🏼
@Mr. Ocean: How do finish the durock above the tile? Since you can’t use texture like you do on sheetrock.
@@majstrujeme8352 So you are talking about waterproofing the green drywall and then attaching tile to it?
@@coolramone I tile all the way to the ceiling.
I think you are a great man to go back and fix a failed shower and to stand behind your work. God honors you Brother
Great job Issac takes a real man to admit his mistakes and these videos help us all thank you for showing us your failers as well as the successes!
Cement backer board, that’s the only thing I use on every install. Never have a problem.
I agree, I use durock/permabase plus a waterproof membrane on all my tile shower installs!
Me to and the water proof tape
You are correct, that's all I use also , I wont use dry wall at all , and I won't use a hot mop pan il use a cast iron shower pan only, and I dont take my cement board all the way to my pan either , I dont need water wicking up the cement wonder board il use water proofing all around the base of my cast iron pan!
Yep! I use hardiebacker with 3 coats of Mapei Aquadefense, gauging fabric on all joints, corners, plane changes. That plus KBRS pans means I haven't had a single call back or warranty issue in 10 years of installing showers.
Exactly!!!! Paper? Drywall? Foam?
Recently started watching, seems like every job he does he ends up taking a mulligan on it. Atleast he’s honest and showing his mistakes
At least is two words. Learn it, use it, and don't ever do it again.
Tile showers might be the toughest thing to install. I’ve seen shower with whatever system used perfectly fail after 4-6 years. Water is a bitch.
@@terrismith9095 Did you train under Heinrich Himmler or Adolf Hitler?
I am what would you expect to see for all his successful jobs? There would be nothing for him to tell.
@@neilkurzman4907 yeah there would be lots to show. It’s called a successful job. He could show before and after and explain what he did.
Mad respect from you TileCoach! I am trying to learn the trade (so far 5 years "in training") and you are great to reinforce my learnings by watching!
Again...IMHO the most honest and humble tile guy on YT....maybe in the country!🥰
His profit margin on the jobs that don't fail must be really high to offset these failures.
Float mud over drywall and install tile over gypcrete in a supermarket? I don't get it.
Look how easy you made the tear out for yourselves
Yeah! Standing behind your work is why a company stays busy. Good for you! Top notch integrity.
Amazing man I’m happy to hear we got contractors that are honest and hardworking
The more of these vids I watch the more I'm leaning toward installing a one-piece acrylic shower in my bathroom remodel...
One-piece or tubs.
That’s ugly.
Yup...but do hear about 'em having to be ripped up a year later?
AZCobraman yea because of ugly asf they are we go tear em out and give the clients something that surpasses their expectations
Joel, you are single handedly improving the industry with your dedication and hard work. I know filming adds so much more time and effort to the job, but it is vital to everyone. Thank you so much.
Don Lindell who is Joel? This guy’s name is Isaac.
@@EDHBlvd Basically if your in northern california dont hire contractors with the name joel in it or your shit will look like this.
Thanks heaps for putting these videos out, not many people admit to there mistakes let alone film them. Keep up the great work 👍
Thanks for your honesty and integrity. Not too many guys like that today.
Those rookie days.. live and learn.
He was 17 years into his 20 in experience
It seems like the systems used in America are unessesary and destined for failure. Especially the waterproofing systems.
Why not use fc sheeting , sand and cement mortar base for shower recess ( wait for moisture content to be low enough) waterproofing membrane over walls and floor ( with neutral cure joint sealant) then tile over top? Not relying on multiple different substrates to "hold" . This is how we do in Australia
The drain and waterproofing tied into it (from Kerdi) is actually a German product.
To many people make excuses for issues on jobs. Good stuff man. Gotta love soft tiles
You learn more from watching people’s failures on here than watching somebody do everything perfect with no explanation
I like to use the durock cement board
It’s what he should’ve used to begin with.
The mud showers that I tear out ,just have black paper and wire mesh , back in the 70s . It has a lot of nails. The mud bed on walls a lot thicker 3/4 or thicker. I have been using that system check out Michael Byrne books, and his old video he great teacher highly respected in the tile industry.
I agree. We used felt paper and lath nailed directly to the studs. Put a scratch coat over the lath. When the scratch coat dried then we floated mud over the scratch coat. Been doing it that way since the 80's....Showers are still holding up, even with soft 4-1/4 tile......
30# felt is amazing stuff. I've opened up several 100 year old baths. The wire lathe may be long gone but the feltpaper is still intact, despite being exposed to water.
Isaac is obviously a super nice guy. Without a tried and true method that works consistently, he's just making it up as he goes. I don't offer any professional service that I'm not 100% sure will last and I don't do many showers due to the liability factor. I mainly stick to hard surface flooring installation. Tile, stone, wood, laminate & LVP. I can't afford to eat mistakes but that's just my financial circumstances.
anyone who can admit faults and come back and re-do it, is a good thing. Too many people just don't want to say "I screwed up" to anyone.
That paper is so anti intuitive I’m amazed anyone ever thought it would work!
California standards baby lmaoo. Where everything is aloud and expected to fail haha
huh.. its almost like it's optimized for removal and remodeling.
Nice that after 2 years you still warranty the shower & regardless of the costs your incurring......you’re making it right👍🏻
Awesome customer service & company “ethics”...
Well you have to give you props. Most tilers would not show their mistakes and come back out and fix it for free. I wish there was more trades like you. Great videos!
I love your videos! You really stand behind your work! To me it seems like you have a lot of trouble with your mortar bed substrates.
Is there a reason you haven't switched to kerdi board or even just hardie/durock with a topically applied waterproofing membrane? I've never had any problems like this
Cant find any contractor that provides any kind of warranty here in rural Alabama. Might as well do it myself, mess it up, tear it out, learn my lessons, and do it again.
Find a good stand alone shower cabin, and all these problems evaporates. Also consider an automatic electric dehumidifier instead of relaying on ventilation so much. Then you even can get away with a bath on particle board floor for many years (that's not long term solution though - works for years still I have found out).
Find a good stand alone shower cabin and all these problems evaporates. Also consider an electric automatic dehumidifier ($100?), then you don't have to relay on ventilation so much. If you are careful, this might even work on particle board flooring without a drain for many years.
test 2000
Duelling Banjos,
Squeal like a pig
I do all my tile myself.
Step 1 -I use cement board, tape and mud my seams.
Step 2 - I Apply Red Guard over the surface as a waterproofing membrane.
Step 3 - because I like to precut all my tiles, I make a paper template of my walls and then I can plan and easily see my tile layout.
( I am not a professional but I love DIY. )
Step 4- I have found having the paper template makes it easier for me to precut and number all my tiles before I begin the laying process. I am a visual person so laying out the tiles on the ground makes it easier for me to know my tiles will fit easily without having to make multiple trips to my tile saw.
Step 5- I apply mortar to the vertical surface, I then back butter all my tiles and then I use a tile leveling system to keep spacing consistent and avoid lippage.
Step 6- remove spacers and then apply grout
Step 7- install fixtures and caulk
If you do these things your tile will look amazing but it will save you alot doing it yourself.
issac - much respect your way dude. your videos are awesome and informative and owning your mistakes is king!
I’m not a tile guy and I’m not in the building trades. I’m a DIYer and I LOVE watching your videos. VERY informative!
Here in socal we always tear everything off to the studs. Inspectors here wont pass a wall with chicken wire. And we use 1 inch crown staples 3 to 4 inches apart. Just knowledge being passed along
At home depot they sell double paper welded wire. Use this instead and you will never have a problem. We hot mop then diamond lath the pan and run the lath up the walls so there is a continuous support. This help eliminate any cracking from the pan and the wall
I went with cement board and never looked back. I can't believe people use green or purple board on showers. All that is, is drywall with moisture resistant green or purple paper to it.
Good to hear. I did my first shower 3 years ago with cement board. Did 4 more since then all using cement board. Hope they last as long as the owners want them to
@@Bennysol it should be fine for years and years. Cement board is the only way to go for showers and bathtubs. Had my shower redone with cement board. 12 years later, zero issues.
First off, respect sir to you for owning your mistakes. I just built a stackstoned mailbox. The owner bought flat stones. I told him we should have corners. He said cant you butt them? I said I could but it’s not anything I had done . After doing what he asked I hated my work. I said I can’t leave your mailbox like that and if I have to eat it no problem. Upshot I ripped old stone off and bought new stone with corners. Not sure if I’ll end up eating it all but if so well teaches me next time not to do a project wrong even if the homeowner said to proceed. I should of insisted or not do it. So it will cost me $375 which isn’t so bad…. I did gain major cred with not only the homeowner but two neighbors.
You are one honest Gentleman I'd hire you any day , and I'd definitely meet you half way on the cost of this repair if it was my home
I love watching these videos, but its confusing sometimes. I've been a GC for 15 years. I've NEVER had a tile issue. I live in canada, and we have very crazy climate changes in Toronto.
This is not a good install originally, not sure how anyone thought this would work....
Unfortunately, a lot of industry money influences what is "acceptable" work - and a lot of contractors are more then happy to go with the methods that are the cheapest/fastest regardless of whether it makes sense. Used to see it a lot in the subdivision developers...
That doesn't mean there isn't new techniques or materials that are good. I love engineered timbers like LVLs and i-joists. I prefer the Kerdi system for showers as opposed to mortar beds. Fibercement is a wonderful material... However, most of them take about the same amount of time as traditional methods and often cost more.
One of the most humble people on here and providing amazing insight and knowledge. Thank you.
Wow, at least it came apart easy! Can't wait to check out the rebuild
You never float over drywall if you're going to the and one more thing float a shower you need to put 60 Minutes paper up on the studs of the shower and then metal lath and then scratch it and let it dry 24 hours and then float the walls that's why your showers keep failing if you keep putting the paper and the chicken wire on drywall 15 years of experience and tilting bricklayers Local 4 Southern California
Would it have been better to use cement board instead of the paper-coated board? I'm not a tile guy in the least, but I find this stuff fascinating. Your work is outstanding.
Yes. Concrete Board would have been better.
TII
great that you stand behind your work and aren't afraid to show your mistakes so others can learn. repect your business ethics.
Always a great moment with you. You will rise above the error. Cant wait for your next video. The paper and lath method has been used for years however it does not mean it was foolproof . Thank you.
this isnt lath. He used chicken wire. HE should use lath but chicken wire is easier to handle and cut
Been tiling in Australia for the last 20 years can't work out why you're using drywall in a bathroom.?
@Johnnie Van Duin ... believe me that’s mostly not good here in North America ... I’m from Germany and work and live in Canada and there it’s almost the same. 90% is shit ... they use normal drywall boards in bathrooms not even green boards or cement boards without any seal or waterproof membrane application on the “ normal “ drywall boards. It’s to cheap they just do it here. All the necessary steps what should be done to do it right is to expensive ( and the people have most time not the experience ) they just doing it and walk away. I hate it but I’m not in charge that I could change is. The most called tradesmen here need some trades courses in Europe 👍🏻.but that’s the next issue HIHIHIHI
Looks like alot of issues there the dry wall looks like no membrane either and can't believe they would tile on paper .
How could anyone think that would work in the first place? I like that he owns up to his mistakes, but makes you wonder.
He's more interested in making youtube videos. Paper and mortar don't mix.
That's awesome you are showing learning lessons. Good Job.
30 yrs as a master tile setter, licensed in LA for 20 yrs I've never had a repair like that . paper and lath over tar paper directly over studs with a scratch coat. I'm close to retirement but I would use tile board with the kerdi waterproofing if I had to start over now. I realize CA people want everything floated but the new systems with kerdi who stands behind the job is worth a lot and easier to train setters .I had 20 employees for many years and finding guys that even wanted to mix mortar was impossible in my last year 2007 I lost many helpers all crying about how hard the work was. Kerdi offers free training classes .
Who ever taught paper and staples was a good idea ? a numty could tell you that not going to bond to the wall its just floating
Doesn't make sense to try and bond tile to a sheet of paper!
@Mr. Meeseeks I agree. That's all I ever use. Fastens to the studs very well and takes mortar easily. Solid substrate and easy to work with. No need to mess around with anything else
I would be ditching that whole float technique.. Thats like from the 1960's here in Australia.. We use Cement sheet and skim minimally with thinset (as you call it) to correct any dips
Love the honesty here mate - that’s the way we also run our business ! Unfortunately a lot of other blokes would have ignored the clients calls. Well done !
LOVE your acceptance of growing. So refreshing.
When i float I always fasten the wire lath to the studs before I put on the the float
seems like a no brainer
Looks like chicken wire and not galvanized wire lathe. Wall mud will not bond to gypsum either unless you flat towel thin set first.
Use real Metal lath, not chicken wire! with 'nails into the studs' and long staples over green board works fine, won't fail. The cracking has to do with the mud mix likely being too rich cement to sand ratio or just too much movement.
Good on you man for being humble and always willing to l earn. Much respect from a So-Cal hot mopper dude.
Thank you for showing us not only how to tile but how to own up to your work!!🤙🏽