I just picked up the Chief Wahoo road hat and love it. I’m glad that NE stuck with keeping the logo as it was in the 80’s and 90’s, it being bigger than what the most recent Wahoo logo was.
Yeah, seems like it would be an easy move to commission a limited run of fan/collector caps at the Florida facility where the players caps are still made.
I just discovered your channel, thanks for creating it in the first place! I got my first New Era cap back in 1996 (an on-field Yankees for just over $20 complete with the old tagging) and this video really takes me back. If I'm not mistaken, team logos on hats from that era, as well as the MLB logos on the back, didn't protrude outward nearly as much as they do nowadays, they're very much three-dimensional.
Yes, you got it - in fact that was a major point with the Retro collection in this review - they returned to the flat stitching on the logos, rather than the raised or lofted embroidery of modern caps. Thanks for the comments!
They are the same, which is to say that they can vary a lot from cap-to-cap - the fabrication process is the same. I've done other videos comparing Wool to Poly, but sizing from the factory is not anything I've noted in those comparisons, thanks.
Assuming you meant "brim," New Era has been very consistent in using a visor that is a blend between plastic (resin) and cardboard (fiber) - the main variation I see is from site of manufacture. Unfortunately this Retro Classic collection is no longer available, but the Pirates cap I own has a visor that tends to be a little bit more flexible than some, although it still feels like the same blended material used throughout current on-field caps, thanks.
Hey brother , I want 2 thank u 4 all (& i mean every single 1) the great vid's u have been posting on youtube very, very insightful & sum wut entertaining, keep up the awsome work & vids if u can please, thanx !
I usually stay with my normal size in wool caps, because wool can also respond pretty well to stretching if you use a hat jack. If you go one size up and it's too big, you can also do something like this - czcams.com/video/yG9rcE7UuVI/video.html Thanks for the question.
I'd say it is a very faithful re-issue, right down to the flat stitching of the logo - it's not lofted as with todays caps. Unfortunately this collection disappeared with two events - closure of the last US plant that made these, and the acquisition of the Lids online business by Fanatics (the Retro Classic vanished, along with some other collections). Thanks
No, all sizes and materials vary from cap to cap, and I don't think wool is any better or worse than poly in that regard. The one thing wool does is shrink more and faster than poly when exposed to heat and moisture, thanks.
dre in the 616 Thanks for the response was wondering since I want to purchase the New Era Florida Marlins Black Cooperstown Collection Wool 59FIFTY Fitted Hat simple but nice in my opinion
Hey man, are you familiar with where I can get these retro classic collection 100% wool pro models? If I can find some in 7 3/8 new or used, I’ll buy them all.
I did notice that many caps in the collection went to their smaller logos from 25-30 years ago, but did not notice the SD was much smaller. I just went and looked again, and it is quite small compared to the modern cap. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
Correct, for this line of cap they went back to no flag on the side. I'm not sure about the future of the collection, as this was intended to be made in the US, but the last NE plant in the US will be closing in March. Thanks for watching
Your best bet is to find some still on the shelves at Lids or other stores. If you're looking for teams outside your local area, you may have a decent chance. All on-field caps are still the AC Performance Polyester (since 2007), but the NE Flag was added to them starting in the 2016 Postseason. I think you might still be able to get a few styles through Lids' online site too, because they sometimes have two 'Authentic' fitteds for a team listed under different numbers/photos - but I have not tried ordering one of these, so there's no guarantee. Good Luck!
dre in the 616 Or eBay Because They’ll Selling The AC Hats With New Era Symbol Now In Days I Glad That I Kept My Some From The 90s Most Of Em Like 2007 As You Mention
Unless they see a lot of heat when they are wet, wool caps won't shrink too much. The way I stretch and shape my caps, sometimes I have to refresh them every now and then, but wool is easier to work with than polyester. I'd go for your normal size in Wool, but consider buying a Hat Jack (see czcams.com/video/8N-EL-rmgIc/video.html), so that you can stretch them every few weeks or months, to keep a good fit. Good luck!
Good to know that wool can be stretched. Thinking about buying one. Wasn't sure if I should go up a size but if it can be hat jacked then I'll stick with my usual size. Thanks!
I just recently bought a vintage 90s era 59Fifty Orioles hat... The crown is much more pointy and rectangular compared to newer 59Fifty hats... The visor is much softer on the vintage hat than a new one, it seems like it might be a bit tougher to curve the bill into a nice and lasting shape. Strangely the new old stock vintage Orioles hat I bought only cost me $28 shipped, the same hat non vintage would cost $40... I would've guessed the vintage would've cost more.
I was actually thinking about getting one but, Now I have seen it in detail.......no thanks. I actually like the fact of having the new era flag on the side. It just looks too boxey for me. I'm glad they produce the low profile 59fifty and long may it continue as I have a few of them now.
I'm vegan so I don't wear wool, but I like your informative videos, as usual. That being said, you might want to consider putting your camera still on a tripod or something. :) Keep up the good work!
I just picked up the Chief Wahoo road hat and love it. I’m glad that NE stuck with keeping the logo as it was in the 80’s and 90’s, it being bigger than what the most recent Wahoo logo was.
That Pirates hat looks awesome!
Thanks, seems that a lot of people enjoyed this collection, but it went away pretty quickly.
@@dreinthe616 i could imagine what your collection looks like I bet it's 🔥
Classic collection....wish New Era restocked U.S. made hats again; it would solve many of the production and sizing issues that currently exist.
Yeah, seems like it would be an easy move to commission a limited run of fan/collector caps at the Florida facility where the players caps are still made.
@@dreinthe616 yes indeed. These caps would be a great option.
Not sure why, but the Cooperstown Collection hats tend to have a better fit than a standard 59 50.
Useful clips, thank you.
Great video and great information
You make great vids. Informative and to the point. Keep it up and thanks.
You are welcome, thanks for watching!
I just discovered your channel, thanks for creating it in the first place! I got my first New Era cap back in 1996 (an on-field Yankees for just over $20 complete with the old tagging) and this video really takes me back.
If I'm not mistaken, team logos on hats from that era, as well as the MLB logos on the back, didn't protrude outward nearly as much as they do nowadays, they're very much three-dimensional.
Yes, you got it - in fact that was a major point with the Retro collection in this review - they returned to the flat stitching on the logos, rather than the raised or lofted embroidery of modern caps. Thanks for the comments!
When Lids merge with fanatic. all those retro classic 59fifty-fitted cap. Disappeared
How is the sizing on the retro classic vs. polyester on-fields?
They are the same, which is to say that they can vary a lot from cap-to-cap - the fabrication process is the same. I've done other videos comparing Wool to Poly, but sizing from the factory is not anything I've noted in those comparisons, thanks.
What I’m wondering is how the beim is compared to the new models. Is it kinda soft like the old ones or is it pretty stiff like the newer one?
Assuming you meant "brim," New Era has been very consistent in using a visor that is a blend between plastic (resin) and cardboard (fiber) - the main variation I see is from site of manufacture. Unfortunately this Retro Classic collection is no longer available, but the Pirates cap I own has a visor that tends to be a little bit more flexible than some, although it still feels like the same blended material used throughout current on-field caps, thanks.
Hey brother , I want 2 thank u 4 all (& i mean every single 1) the great vid's u have been posting on youtube very, very insightful & sum wut entertaining, keep up the awsome work & vids if u can please, thanx !
That’s very cool man, thank you for commenting and watching!
@@dreinthe616
It's been my pleasure brother.
Would you recommend buying a size up since it’s wool? I hear they shrink once you sweat in the hat
I usually stay with my normal size in wool caps, because wool can also respond pretty well to stretching if you use a hat jack. If you go one size up and it's too big, you can also do something like this - czcams.com/video/yG9rcE7UuVI/video.html Thanks for the question.
The one I got ran big.
How do you compare it with the actual hat released back in the day?
I'd say it is a very faithful re-issue, right down to the flat stitching of the logo - it's not lofted as with todays caps. Unfortunately this collection disappeared with two events - closure of the last US plant that made these, and the acquisition of the Lids online business by Fanatics (the Retro Classic vanished, along with some other collections). Thanks
Sorry for this question but do you think wool hats come tighter or smaller??
No, all sizes and materials vary from cap to cap, and I don't think wool is any better or worse than poly in that regard. The one thing wool does is shrink more and faster than poly when exposed to heat and moisture, thanks.
dre in the 616 Thanks for the response was wondering since I want to purchase the New Era Florida Marlins Black Cooperstown Collection Wool 59FIFTY Fitted Hat simple but nice in my opinion
From the mlb shop
Hey man, are you familiar with where I can get these retro classic collection 100% wool pro models? If I can find some in 7 3/8 new or used, I’ll buy them all.
Unfortunately no... and this collection seemed to vanish everywhere right around the time that New Era closed the Derby plant in early 2019.
The only problem I have with these Heritage hats is that the SD logo is smaller than what it supposed to have looked like
I did notice that many caps in the collection went to their smaller logos from 25-30 years ago, but did not notice the SD was much smaller. I just went and looked again, and it is quite small compared to the modern cap. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
dre in the 616 you're welcome and you just got a subscribe from me a fellow hat collector!
Right on, man, thanks. Anytime you have a hat topic you're interested in seeing, feel free to post a comment on one of my videos.
Are these still available?
So the classic dont have flag on the side ?
Correct, for this line of cap they went back to no flag on the side. I'm not sure about the future of the collection, as this was intended to be made in the US, but the last NE plant in the US will be closing in March. Thanks for watching
Where can I get the old polyester on field caps without the New Era flag logo?
Your best bet is to find some still on the shelves at Lids or other stores. If you're looking for teams outside your local area, you may have a decent chance. All on-field caps are still the AC Performance Polyester (since 2007), but the NE Flag was added to them starting in the 2016 Postseason. I think you might still be able to get a few styles through Lids' online site too, because they sometimes have two 'Authentic' fitteds for a team listed under different numbers/photos - but I have not tried ordering one of these, so there's no guarantee. Good Luck!
dre in the 616 Or eBay Because They’ll Selling The AC Hats With New Era Symbol Now In Days I Glad That I Kept My Some From The 90s Most Of Em Like 2007 As You Mention
Lids.com got classic hat . Are they authentic ?
If you mean 'real' - yes, the caps at Lids are actual New Era products - in fact this Pirates cap came from Lids online store.
Ty for the info . How about the new era x karl kani ?
Love the vids! I’m usually a 7 1/4 should I size up on these retro classic? I heard the wool shrinks.
Also I will be wearing my hat to work and sweating in it a lot please help thank you!
Unless they see a lot of heat when they are wet, wool caps won't shrink too much. The way I stretch and shape my caps, sometimes I have to refresh them every now and then, but wool is easier to work with than polyester. I'd go for your normal size in Wool, but consider buying a Hat Jack (see czcams.com/video/8N-EL-rmgIc/video.html), so that you can stretch them every few weeks or months, to keep a good fit. Good luck!
Good to know that wool can be stretched. Thinking about buying one. Wasn't sure if I should go up a size but if it can be hat jacked then I'll stick with my usual size. Thanks!
I just recently bought a vintage 90s era 59Fifty Orioles hat... The crown is much more pointy and rectangular compared to newer 59Fifty hats... The visor is much softer on the vintage hat than a new one, it seems like it might be a bit tougher to curve the bill into a nice and lasting shape. Strangely the new old stock vintage Orioles hat I bought only cost me $28 shipped, the same hat non vintage would cost $40... I would've guessed the vintage would've cost more.
I was actually thinking about getting one but, Now I have seen it in detail.......no thanks. I actually like the fact of having the new era flag on the side. It just looks too boxey for me. I'm glad they produce the low profile 59fifty and long may it continue as I have a few of them now.
Yes, I had to soften the corners with some heat and forming. Btw, how did everything go with the steam cleaner on your Prolight?
A hot shower takes the boxiness out of the old wool hats
I'm vegan so I don't wear wool, but I like your informative videos, as usual.
That being said, you might want to consider putting your camera still on a tripod or something. :)
Keep up the good work!
Thanks for watching, and for the comment... and you're right, I had an inexperienced "cameraman" behind the lens for parts of this one!
Ahh, vegans. Always going out of their way to let you know they’re vegan lol.
Tommy Parsons they forget plants are living organisms.
KoolDee 149 save the plants 2018
these hats are terribly made, basically constructed to fit Frankenstein’s head
Agreed, the crowns on this collection were seemingly blocked 80's style... I had to do a lot of shaping on this Pirates cap.