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@@bobertsmaug5583 Maybe, I hope they do since no one else is making them. They’ve had the 45/70s out on the market for almost 10 years. In that time they could’ve brought out a 444 marlin
360 buckhammer seems like a great cartridge. 350 Legend is my current favorite hunting cartridge because it is accurate, cheap, easy to reload, light recoil, plenty of power out to 200 yards, and works great both in a AR (great for hogs) or Bolt Action.
I got the 350 legend and it dose everything I hoped it would be if you are looking for a different option to a shot gun between my relatives And I we have 4 of the 350 legend we all found ammunition in different grain bullets and by different manufacturers that work most accurately and efficiently for deer but still love my shotgun as well
The whole time, I was thinking "man, I wish he'd compare this to the .35 rem bc those numbers are almost identical", and then whaddya know? You go and pull up the box of .35 rem and say exactly that! As a passionately devoted .35 rem guy, I appreciate the new 360 buckhammer quite a bit. Since I don't live in a straight-wall cartridge only state, I'll likely never buy one, but if I DID, you can bet that'd be the gun and cartridge I'd buy. Great video!
As a 35 Rem fanboy I have something interesting for you. I am a reloader from back to 1976 so all my ammo I load and I an advanced reloader for wildcat cartridges. For the Marlin 35 Rem I own my main load which goes into the chamber first is a 35 cal Barns TTSX 200 grain bullet using 36 grains of CFE Black that brings the 35 Rem up to commercial loaded 358 win ammo loads. The Marlin tube magazine holds the round noise loads and are never used because the Barns TTSX 200 grain load is so lethal even Elk here in the Pacific NW give up fast when shot with this 35 rem load.
Lots of humor reading some of the posts on this. The big question is, why did anyone purchase the firearms they did? We all have to say because we wanted them, and that's all that matters. The bad accuracy statements for the 350 are not accurate, even misleading. I have one and it shoots great. The Henry 360 will be a great addition for those of us that like lever actions and live in a straight walled state. I would like to see how the 180gr bullets will perform on deer.
In Michigan there is 2 zones that you can hunt with the .35 rem id you choose, the south zone which is zone 3 is the only zone restricted to straight wall calibers
I love the 35rem cartridge. I understand the argument for introducing straight wall cartridges with similar ballistics, but there are still too many of us that can and do still use 35rem and it's somewhat irritating and disappointing that they are trying so hard to mothball it.
I dont think they're trying to mothball it.. some states (like Maryland) have counties that are only shotgun and straight wall cartridge for deer hunting.. I live in one of those counties. I hunt predominantly with 308 but I also have two 45-70 lever guns for the areas that are either straight wall only, or are just really thick and brush filled.
Everyone has this argument for 35 Rem but I seriously can’t remember the last time I saw a factory box of ammo on a store shelf in my area or a rifle chambered in it. Saw a 35 Rem lever at the range last year…last one I can remember. The guy is a hand loader because he couldn’t find ammo. Not everyone wants to hand load. Some people just want to go to the store and buy ammo made by Federal, Remington, Hornady or one of the other factory offerings. I have nothing against 35 Remington or some of the other great cartridges from the past, but once support is gone it’s hard to want those anymore…especially if you don’t already have one.
@scotteger6271 there's definitely a few .35 out there. There's the Remington model 8 & 81 semi auto The Remington model 14, 141, and 760 pump action Winchester pre 64 model 70 bolt action. The Thomson Contender Then, the most famous Marlin 336 There's also two others that made the .35 short lived, though. I also heard that Henry is making a .35. Don't know if that's true. On a side thought, think about how many models were produced in .35rem . There's definitely a lot of rifles in gun cabinets that are chambered in .35. I own a 30/30 and 35 Remington in a 336 model. I prefer the 35REM over the 30/30.
350 Legend is optimized for AR platform rifles, while 360 Buckhammer, with a rimmed cartridge, was purpose built for lever guns. You could also say the same for 450 Bushmaster vs. 45-70 Gov. The only problem with 45-70, in Michigan at least, is in the restricted zone it is not an approved cartridge. I remember hearing a couple years ago that they might grandfather it, but I'm not sure if that has happened. God know it should be grandfathered. It only falls just outside the restriction parameters, and isn't any more powerful than some cartridge that are approved.
No reason you can’t design a lever gun around a rimless cartridge. With the straight walls and round nosed bullets .350 legend could work in a tube magazine.
@@AppliedGats I would agree. It seems the idea was to reuse the existing marlin design and parts, rather than develop a totally new action. This looks like a 336/1895 clone action. Ejection port appears same as 30-30 or 35 Rem. It's a proven reliable action. Good designs tend to stand on shoulders of giants. And the rimmed cartridge has that nostalgic look to it, despite being new. I think this is one of the better implementations of modern retro.
Doesn’t seem like it was ever the intention or the point of 350 Legend. It was made and all the rifles it’s been made for have been on the more affordable end, as well as most optics made for it, more affordable. Even the ammo has been the more affordable styles…it’s not like you see Hornady Precision Hunter or Federal Terminal Ascent in 350 Legend…it’s things like Hornady American Whitetail, Winchester Power Point, Deer Season XP and Federal Powershok. 360 Buckhammer being a collaboration between Henry and Remington Ammunition (Federal/CCI/Speer sister company) seems purposeful built for leverage guns, maybe single shot rifles, and decently affordable ammunition as well, like the CoreLokt and Powershok it’s currently available in now. It would be nice to see some more options, like Hornady LeveRevolution, but that may or may not happen.
Outside of repeating the word caliber when the correct term since the dawn of firearms has been cartridge this is another good review of the firearm and cartridge vs a couple other 35 caliber cartridges. I recently moved to Ohio from West Virginia and definitely would love a lever gun possibly in this new well rounded cartridge.
The henry barrel does heat up quick,,,, my steel side gate 3030, barrel is hot after a full tube of shooting,, 6 shots,,, maybe thats why the bullets tend too shoot everywhere afterwards when its hot,.. i put the HiViz sights on my henry, i love it
Yesterday morning (Saturday), I wasn’t going to get one. My grandfather’s Winchester 94 in .30-30 was enough. Now that I’ve watched enough videos on the .360 Buckhammer, though … I’m seriously thinking about getting one. It seems perfect to go with the 94 for the Adirondacks.
I'm on the fence about this one. My Henry journey started looking for a 30-30. It will probably come down to what becomes available first and ammo availability. Like my first two Henrys. The 30-30 I want is the X model. Not to be had. I did find a Big Boy X in .45 Colt. Bought it, no regrets. The second one, just yesterday. I wanted the .22LR pump action from Henry. Also unavailable. I did find this rifle in .22 mag. Bought it. I should have it in a few days.
The big advantage of the 350 legend is several different companies chamber it price is a big factor when you are on a budget ,but it is a very beautiful rifle
The restrictions in Michigan are for the southern half of the lower peninsula. In this area rifle and handgun cartridges are restricted not only for straight walls but cartridge case length. The 45-70 does not qualify. The minimum length for a case is 1.16 inches, with a maximum of 1.8 inches. 35 caliber is also the minimum.
I have a .35 Rem and load the Speer 180 grain FN. I get around 2400 fps at the muzzle and the barrel does not get hot after 5 shots. Of course the pressure index is lower, too. I was looking for the .360 BH for my birthday but a Winchester 94 Big Bore SE Dark Shadow in .444 Marlin floated onto my radar. To me the .444 is the perfect straight wall rifle round. I load .4295" Sierra Sportsman 240 grain bullets that are pretty tough bullets and can be used for velocities above 1300 fps. 2900 ft.lbs of muzzle energy. Sweet.
You are a reloader so you could load the 35 Rem like I am using the 35 cal Barns TTSX 200 grain bullets by one of these in the chamber and round noise in the tube magazine. I can bring the 35 Rem up to just under the commercial loadings of the 358 win. My loading of these 35 cal Barns TTSX 200 grain is so much more in power and lethal I have been able to take down 3 Roosevelt Elk in the Pacific NW using this load.
Some gun company should bring back the .375 Winchester, or make a modern load for .38-55 like the modern .45-70 loads. It would give you enough oomph for bigger game like black bears and feral hogs without as much recoil as .45-70.
I love the 35 remington, I don't get laws where you need a strait wall cartridge for hunting, what is the point? There are tons of straight wall cartridges that are just as powerful as necked cartridges, so why make a rule like that. My state NH you can use pretty much anything to hunt with.
@@bigdirtyred In our state for those areas we are limited to shotguns or pistols, not sure why they don't do the same but every state has their reasons I guess.
@@TheRighttoArmBears2022 yea the law abiding citizens get punished for nothing, but the crims do not have firearms licenses and still keep their illegal weapons.
Now I have to get a Henry 360 Buck Hammer. I've always wanted a Henry, but living in Indiana the only option was a Pistol caliber. I bought a bolt action 350 legend two years ago, it's pretty accurate, haven't shot a deer with it yet, if I get the Henry there just might be 350 legend up for sale. Thanks for the Vid, Plinkster!
My stock Savage 350 legend with the bull barrel groups 1MOA no problem. I’ve shot it out to 350yds with no issues hitting a 6” plate. I get that the 360 has great energy under 100, but if you look at a chart it is basically identical to the 350 legend at 200yds.
I definitely believe that they're on to something.. by developing these straight wall cartridges! They're designed for hunting whitetail hogs and black bear! They're not designed for long range shooting! As a hunter and target shooter.. I love the idea of low recoiling lightweight accurate firearms with inexpensive readily available ammo! That is where the 350 Legend shines! Even during the pandemic the ammo was easy to find.. I've actually seen it on the shelf ALONE! NOTHING else was available! So hopefully the Buckhammer gets the same support from ammo manufacturers.. cause most folks want firearms that they can shoot! I did notice that Winchester has been working on a 400 Legend! That sounds like another great cartridge ❤️
I'm having 'fits' with mine. Three new scopes, Bushnell Elite 4500 1-4x24; Leupold 2-7x33; and a Burris 3-9x40; two different bases, Weaver 63B and Warne M864 2 piece; and Weaver Grand Slam rings. will group 3 shots 2-21/2" and then they open up to 4-5", sometimes groups jump across the target! I'm ready to send it back to Henry. Shooting factory Rem 200 gr by the way. Just got my 360 dies to begin reloading the 140 casings I now own.
Love my favorite brush gun, my Marlin .35 Rem, but he took the words right out of my mouth on how rare multiple shots are on whitetails! That fact, and also satisfy the single shot requirement for at least a couple of southern primitive weapon seasons is why I see no need to shell out how much Henry or Marlin is wanting for their lever guns nowadays. So what cartridge should I get my single shot straight wall in? 360 BHR since I could reload the same bullets as my .35 Rem? Or 450 BM for a cartridge that maybe has more of a chance of sticking around?
I bought a Savage in .350 legend the year it came out. That same year I won a Winchester XPR in .350 Legend. I use my hand loads with 165 Hornady FTX bullets. I have taken 6 deer with 6 shots, only one manager to travel 20 yards after the shot. Low recoil, no muzzle blast, does not blow up meat, and in my guns off a bench rest .75 to 1 inch. I already have .360 Buckhammer dies and Speer 180 gr bullets, next is brass, and buy a Henry!
I dont know why i cant stand henry rifles. Glad they came out with a loading gate. I also cant imagine a scope on a lever gun. I love my old jm stamped marlins.
@@Alan.livingston Buds Gun Shop and SGAmmo both have plenty of 30-30 available with the lowest prices I've seen in recent years. Free shipping is also avaiable for some products and purchase amounts.
Straight wall cartridges are old tech. Its well known you get more pressure from a knecked cartridges using all the same bullets and powder while getting higher fps
i have a 350 legend chambered scoped with a leupold freedom 3x9. i have had it two years and have taken 3 deer up to 275 pounds live and 4 boars up to 350 lbs live all 1 shot stops except for 1 boar. The 360 buckmaster in a henry is in my viewscreen
Who_tee_hoo was getting roughly 3/4 inch groups. With one or two groups where all three rounds were touching! I think for woods hunting, the .360 BH is going to become a darling amongst hunters. For deer, black bears and wild hogs, this cartridge is going to be just right!
I love how companies wont just resurect the 35 rem rather than going through a bunch of r&d to develop an entirely new caliber... that nearly mimics the 35 rem.
@@eldorisgardnerAgreed, the 38-55 abd 375 win are superior especially for larger game but they aren't legal to use in some areas because of overall cartridge length restrictions. Hence the 350Legend and 360 Buckhammer designs fulfill the requirements.
So Henry makes the long ranger in 223, 243, 308, and 6.5 creedmoor so the could make the more popular 350 legend in a lever that has a wide variety of of ammunition available for those that don’t hand load hand loading is not for everyone Henry makes a great gun and I enjoy mine but try and find ammunition for the 360 Buckhammer you most likely will have to hand load to get enough ammunition and if you do find over the counter ammunition is it going to be accurate in your high price really nice Henry so many options with the 350 legend and is great for the young knew hunters
You need to re-visit the 350 legend. My Winchester XPR 16-1/2" barrel will group inch-and-a-half (and less) at 100 yards all day. And recoil is less than the 360. Ammo cost less than the 360. 350 Legend is AR compatible. (That doesn't matter to me but it's a biggie to some.) It has more than enough power to take deer, (and bigger game) at 150+ yards. In the "Straight-Wall-States" most deer are taken at 35 to 75 yards anyway. But, plenty of gun for what it's for. Low recoil is a biggie. I can shoot this thing all day with that bull barrel and low recoil. You should try Winchester's 150 gr Extreme Point Copper Impact and the 150 gr Extreme Point. Both are very accurate and running over 2200 and 2300 fps. You might change your mind about them. Keep up the good life, I love your channel. Charlie
Hes a puppet for henry. Since henry and remington teamed up for this cartridge/rifle, hes attempting to make it out to be everything. The 400L will be a hammer, better than this 360, a good fit between the 350L and 450bm. This 360 is just a poor addition, meant to try and capitalize on the small niche of the lever action (when henry could’ve just chambered the Long Ranger in 350L by swapping their .223 barrel for a 350L barrel). It wont last or reach the same status as the 350L, 400L and 450bm.
I’ve owned a few 350 legends from 3 different manufacturers. All shot 1 inch to inch and half groups at 100. Never seen one in my life shot 3-4 inch groups 😂😂
There's never any doubt that Henry makes a great gun. As far as the calibers go if you look at the boxes that you showed got 200 yards the 350 Legend has more energy. Granted it's just a little bit but that's all those 360 buchhammer has over the 350 Legend at 100 yards. I have customers it absolutely Rave about the 350 Legend. Plus it will also fit in an AR style platform.
What counties in Michigan are you talking about that are straight wall cartridge only? I assume southern MI, I'm from Northern MI and we've never had any caliber restrictions other than we cant shoot deer with small calibers like .22.. We do however have cartridge limitations here in many counties in Maryland.. Shotgun/straight wall only in certain counties..and only archery in others..and then Region B which is any caliber that is legal to take a deer with. I hunt with 45-70 and love the caliber, but the 360 looks like a really solid choice for a future buy, something that won't beat my shoulders up as much. What is that Riton optic zeroed at?
Indiana doesn’t limit you to straight wall cartridges anymore. You can legally hunt with .308, .270, 30-06 etc but they set a lower end caliber limit which is .243. However I’m not sure about an upper end caliber limit.
Here in Michigan, my go toos are 450 bushmaster in my AR in the restricted zone and my 700 bdl in 7 mag in the other zones.Neither have ever failed to make a 1 shot kill.
This straight wall limitations are kind of Greek to me. What's the reason behind it? Never mind. Probably kickbacks and inside trading by politicians. But hell I prefer the 30-30.
What’s the reasoning behind a straight wall cartridge only hunt? Range? Half of my home state (New York) is shotgun only because they want to reduce the distance of bullet travel. I think a straight wall cartridge would be a much better option than slugs.
👍🏽 Michigan has case length restrictions for our “limited firearms zone” also. The .45/70 exceeds those restrictions so wouldn’t be legal in the restricted area, which is roughly the southern half of Michigan’s lower peninsula.
Live in PA, bought one in a ruger ranch left hand from Randy's hunting center. Love it and it is accurate. nice rifle to walk with. Leupold 3-9, shoots 1-1/2" or better at 100 yards.
Man, that Henry is a really Pretty Rifle. I’m really impressed with the .360 Buckhammer. Phenomenal Accuracy. I have a Question about the Optics. I always try to use at least a 50mm Objective Lens so I can gather more light in the early Morning and Evening. I see a lot of People using these small Objectives and was just wondering why?
There are several reasons. A 50mm objective lens is great for hunting whitetail back east where the majority of shots are happening at dusk and dawn or when hunting fur bearers at night. Like you mentioned a big objective gathers light well, but it has some drawbacks in other applications. First it’s bulky. Also, it doesn’t allow you to mount the scope very low. That’s real important for some I like that lever action with a lot of drop at the comb and heel of the stock to facilitate iron sights. Lastly, 50mm objectives are heavy. I mostly hunt sheep and goats in the alpine here in Alaska, so any ounce I shave off my rifle is a Godsend.
I got the Vortex Crossfire II 3-9x50mm straight wall on my Henry 45-70. And I have the 2-7x32mm version on my Marlin 30-30, perfect optic parameters for it IMHO. The 50mm is very large and required tall rings and a cheek/comb riser. I think it's overkill for a straight wall scope. I also recently used a 1-6x24 LPVO and surprisingly it wasn't lacking in dusk/dawn conditions. I still don't understand how they achieve this. I used to dabble in amateur astronomy and geeked out on binoculars with 70mm objectives, but the scopes don't need as much power and as a result don't need as much aperture. I'm sure it's very useful for longer range. I like my Crossfires but I think a 1-6x LPVO might be the ideal lever action scope. And I'd resist the urge to get 8x or 10x, as they would cost more, be dimmer at full mag and yet you have to be at full mag to use the reticle for compensation.
Plenty of people (myself included) would like to get their hands on these in time for deer season this year, but production can’t possibly meet the demand. I want the single-shot version of a Henry in this cartridge, but my recent inquiry was answered (from Henry’s staff) that they are trying to meet demand for the lever-action variety first.
most of the rifles chambered in the straight walled cartridges are advertised as 1-1.5 MOA rifles anyway so shooting a 1.5" group is probably about as good as most people are gonna get for an avg anyway. you add the human factor in and atmospherics and most groups will be somewhere in the 4 and 5 inches for a good shooter at 200yrds with a stock rifle. but i completely agree if you can hold a 1.5" group youre shootin just fine and shouldnt have any issues droppin deer.
That Henry is one sweet looking buck hammer. However, good luck finding ammunition for it. Plan on reloading your own the next time there's a ammo shortage. The ammo for my super Redhawk chambered in 480 ruger has become unobtainable.
I loved the idea of this when it came out especially since it uses .35 rem bullets, BUT here’s where Henry really screwed up on this one- the price tag! You can buy a .350 legend in a bolt action Savage for $400-$500 depending on area. I haven’t seen a buckhammer in stores yet, but on Gunbroker the cheaper one on there is $900+. Sorry, I’m not spending a grand on a gun that I can use maybe 3 weeks out of the year for whitetail.
I got a Winchester 1894 30-30 made 1907, and a 25-35 made 1907. Both 26" octagon barrels.takw way more than 5 rounds heat barrell up.nezt time I go shoot I make a note.let you know then.😊😊😊
I was 15 with a 30-30 doe came busting through a high fence Christmas tree farm, I started blasting. All 8 shots and 4 hits. Only time I’ve shot more than once
Love all the new calibers and rifles but man the costs are getting out of hand. And supply just won’t ever be there for these niche calibers. 350 and 400 legend the 360 bh, 450 bm, 45/70, 444 marlin, 44 mag 357 mag seems repetitive to me. Less calibers and better supply would be better.
The wood on that rifle is real pretty now that just had a case-hardened receiver to tie that dark beautiful wood together it would be damn near perfect
I would bet that in the future, Henry will make a version of this rifle with the case-hardened option. I recently contacted Henry about their single shot version of this, and the response was that they are going to be making those in the future, but not right now.
@@ronsamborski6230 cool something about case hardened and pretty wood just go together why I've always wants a Shiloh sharps rifle lol outta my price range
@@Allen338LM The demand for the two versions of this rifle (walnut & blued steel, and the X model) is going to be keeping Henry busy. The single shot and case-hardened variants I predict will be coming along once the initial demand is satisfied, which will probably be next year, maybe?
Henry should’ve brought out a model in 444 marlin
They will eventually
@@bobertsmaug5583 Maybe, I hope they do since no one else is making them. They’ve had the 45/70s out on the market for almost 10 years. In that time they could’ve brought out a 444 marlin
I was thinking the same thing. Had a 444 and loved it
35 rem would be better
@@springfield03sniper they already make a 35 Remington.
35rem has been a fav of mine for 30yrs. I could never use it in southern Mi, always had to go up north. This is a perfect "new kid on the block!"
360 buckhammer seems like a great cartridge. 350 Legend is my current favorite hunting cartridge because it is accurate, cheap, easy to reload, light recoil, plenty of power out to 200 yards, and works great both in a AR (great for hogs) or Bolt Action.
Nothing wrong with .222
It's no 30-30, but sure.
@@bobjohnson1633 most accurate caliber ever
I got the 350 legend and it dose everything I hoped it would be if you are looking for a different option to a shot gun between my relatives And I we have 4 of the 350 legend we all found ammunition in different grain bullets and by different manufacturers that work most accurately and efficiently for deer but still love my shotgun as well
Are there any issues with availability for ammo, either 350 or 360? I am inclining just to getting the 30-30 to avoid any availability issues.
The whole time, I was thinking "man, I wish he'd compare this to the .35 rem bc those numbers are almost identical", and then whaddya know? You go and pull up the box of .35 rem and say exactly that! As a passionately devoted .35 rem guy, I appreciate the new 360 buckhammer quite a bit. Since I don't live in a straight-wall cartridge only state, I'll likely never buy one, but if I DID, you can bet that'd be the gun and cartridge I'd buy. Great video!
As a 35 Rem fanboy I have something interesting for you.
I am a reloader from back to 1976 so all my ammo I load and I an advanced reloader for wildcat cartridges.
For the Marlin 35 Rem I own my main load which goes into the chamber first is a 35 cal Barns TTSX 200 grain bullet using 36 grains of CFE Black that brings the 35 Rem up to commercial loaded 358 win ammo loads.
The Marlin tube magazine holds the round noise loads and are never used because the Barns TTSX 200 grain load is so lethal even Elk here in the Pacific NW give up fast when shot with this 35 rem load.
Lots of humor reading some of the posts on this. The big question is, why did anyone purchase the firearms they did? We all have to say because we wanted them, and that's all that matters. The bad accuracy statements for the 350 are not accurate, even misleading. I have one and it shoots great. The Henry 360 will be a great addition for those of us that like lever actions and live in a straight walled state. I would like to see how the 180gr bullets will perform on deer.
Love your vids! My favorite channel for gun reviews!
@@22pIinkster DONT DO IT IT IS A SCAM !!!!
In Michigan there is 2 zones that you can hunt with the .35 rem id you choose, the south zone which is zone 3 is the only zone restricted to straight wall calibers
I love the 35rem cartridge. I understand the argument for introducing straight wall cartridges with similar ballistics, but there are still too many of us that can and do still use 35rem and it's somewhat irritating and disappointing that they are trying so hard to mothball it.
I dont think they're trying to mothball it.. some states (like Maryland) have counties that are only shotgun and straight wall cartridge for deer hunting.. I live in one of those counties. I hunt predominantly with 308 but I also have two 45-70 lever guns for the areas that are either straight wall only, or are just really thick and brush filled.
@Barklen226 Well, the only ammo manufacturer I know that still makes .35 is Hornady.
Remington no longer makes .35rem.
Everyone has this argument for 35 Rem but I seriously can’t remember the last time I saw a factory box of ammo on a store shelf in my area or a rifle chambered in it. Saw a 35 Rem lever at the range last year…last one I can remember. The guy is a hand loader because he couldn’t find ammo. Not everyone wants to hand load. Some people just want to go to the store and buy ammo made by Federal, Remington, Hornady or one of the other factory offerings.
I have nothing against 35 Remington or some of the other great cartridges from the past, but once support is gone it’s hard to want those anymore…especially if you don’t already have one.
@scotteger6271 there's definitely a few .35 out there.
There's the Remington model 8 & 81 semi auto
The Remington model 14, 141, and 760 pump action
Winchester pre 64 model 70 bolt action.
The Thomson Contender
Then, the most famous Marlin 336
There's also two others that made the .35 short lived, though.
I also heard that Henry is making a .35. Don't know if that's true.
On a side thought, think about how many models were produced in .35rem . There's definitely a lot of rifles in gun cabinets that are chambered in .35.
I own a 30/30 and 35 Remington in a 336 model. I prefer the 35REM over the 30/30.
350 Legend is optimized for AR platform rifles, while 360 Buckhammer, with a rimmed cartridge, was purpose built for lever guns. You could also say the same for 450 Bushmaster vs. 45-70 Gov. The only problem with 45-70, in Michigan at least, is in the restricted zone it is not an approved cartridge. I remember hearing a couple years ago that they might grandfather it, but I'm not sure if that has happened. God know it should be grandfathered. It only falls just outside the restriction parameters, and isn't any more powerful than some cartridge that are approved.
No reason you can’t design a lever gun around a rimless cartridge. With the straight walls and round nosed bullets .350 legend could work in a tube magazine.
@@AppliedGats I would agree. It seems the idea was to reuse the existing marlin design and parts, rather than develop a totally new action. This looks like a 336/1895 clone action. Ejection port appears same as 30-30 or 35 Rem. It's a proven reliable action. Good designs tend to stand on shoulders of giants. And the rimmed cartridge has that nostalgic look to it, despite being new. I think this is one of the better implementations of modern retro.
Doesn’t seem like it was ever the intention or the point of 350 Legend. It was made and all the rifles it’s been made for have been on the more affordable end, as well as most optics made for it, more affordable. Even the ammo has been the more affordable styles…it’s not like you see Hornady Precision Hunter or Federal Terminal Ascent in 350 Legend…it’s things like Hornady American Whitetail, Winchester Power Point, Deer Season XP and Federal Powershok.
360 Buckhammer being a collaboration between Henry and Remington Ammunition (Federal/CCI/Speer sister company) seems purposeful built for leverage guns, maybe single shot rifles, and decently affordable ammunition as well, like the CoreLokt and Powershok it’s currently available in now. It would be nice to see some more options, like Hornady LeveRevolution, but that may or may not happen.
Love my 45.70, but that sure is a beauty, sir Plinkster.
Same here🇺🇸
400 legend looks to be the perfect straight wall cartridge for power and recoil
Outside of repeating the word caliber when the correct term since the dawn of firearms has been cartridge this is another good review of the firearm and cartridge vs a couple other 35 caliber cartridges.
I recently moved to Ohio from West Virginia and definitely would love a lever gun possibly in this new well rounded cartridge.
The henry barrel does heat up quick,,,, my steel side gate 3030, barrel is hot after a full tube of shooting,, 6 shots,,, maybe thats why the bullets tend too shoot everywhere afterwards when its hot,.. i put the HiViz sights on my henry, i love it
same as 3030 and 35 rem and these should be legal as well
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DONT DO IT IT IS A SCAM !!!!
Yesterday morning (Saturday), I wasn’t going to get one. My grandfather’s Winchester 94 in .30-30 was enough.
Now that I’ve watched enough videos on the .360 Buckhammer, though … I’m seriously thinking about getting one. It seems perfect to go with the 94 for the Adirondacks.
I'm on the fence about this one. My Henry journey started looking for a 30-30. It will probably come down to what becomes available first and ammo availability. Like my first two Henrys. The 30-30 I want is the X model. Not to be had. I did find a Big Boy X in .45 Colt. Bought it, no regrets.
The second one, just yesterday. I wanted the .22LR pump action from Henry. Also unavailable. I did find this rifle in .22 mag. Bought it. I should have it in a few days.
The big advantage of the 350 legend is several different companies chamber it price is a big factor when you are on a budget ,but it is a very beautiful rifle
The restrictions in Michigan are for the southern half of the lower peninsula. In this area rifle and handgun cartridges are restricted not only for straight walls but cartridge case length. The 45-70 does not qualify. The minimum length for a case is 1.16 inches, with a maximum of 1.8 inches. 35 caliber is also the minimum.
I have a .35 Rem and load the Speer 180 grain FN. I get around 2400 fps at the muzzle and the barrel does not get hot after 5 shots. Of course the pressure index is lower, too. I was looking for the .360 BH for my birthday but a Winchester 94 Big Bore SE Dark Shadow in .444 Marlin floated onto my radar. To me the .444 is the perfect straight wall rifle round. I load .4295" Sierra Sportsman 240 grain bullets that are pretty tough bullets and can be used for velocities above 1300 fps. 2900 ft.lbs of muzzle energy. Sweet.
You are a reloader so you could load the 35 Rem like I am using the 35 cal Barns TTSX 200 grain bullets by one of these in the chamber and round noise in the tube magazine.
I can bring the 35 Rem up to just under the commercial loadings of the 358 win.
My loading of these 35 cal Barns TTSX 200 grain is so much more in power and lethal I have been able to take down 3 Roosevelt Elk in the Pacific NW using this load.
Some gun company should bring back the .375 Winchester, or make a modern load for .38-55 like the modern .45-70 loads. It would give you enough oomph for bigger game like black bears and feral hogs without as much recoil as .45-70.
I've always wanted a 38-55
Buffalo Bore ammo has modern 38-55 loads (40K PSI) for modern leverguns ,single shots
Try in a modern rifle 30gr RL7 behind a 260 flat nose hard cast boolit in your 38-55 ! Gos thru deer and hogs like they are hot butter.
Like dummy, I sold a 375 Winchester, but have a 38-55 and a 350 Legend.
Henry already has an 38-55 they offer. This is the way to fly.
Cool rifle and interesting cartridge. Thanks
I love the 35 remington, I don't get laws where you need a strait wall cartridge for hunting, what is the point? There are tons of straight wall cartridges that are just as powerful as necked cartridges, so why make a rule like that. My state NH you can use pretty much anything to hunt with.
We can ue anything here in NZ as well, but they banned the semi autos, not allowed to own those now.
It mostly about velocity and range. Higher populated areas want lower velocity and range
@@Paulman50 That's too bad, they punish everyone cause of a few. My state you can own full auto, can't hunt with it but you can own them with permits.
@@bigdirtyred In our state for those areas we are limited to shotguns or pistols, not sure why they don't do the same but every state has their reasons I guess.
@@TheRighttoArmBears2022 yea the law abiding citizens get punished for nothing, but the crims do not have firearms licenses and still keep their illegal weapons.
Now I have to get a Henry 360 Buck Hammer. I've always wanted a Henry, but living in Indiana the only option was a Pistol caliber. I bought a bolt action 350 legend two years ago, it's pretty accurate, haven't shot a deer with it yet, if I get the Henry there just might be 350 legend up for sale. Thanks for the Vid, Plinkster!
I'll buy it from you
My stock Savage 350 legend with the bull barrel groups 1MOA no problem. I’ve shot it out to 350yds with no issues hitting a 6” plate.
I get that the 360 has great energy under 100, but if you look at a chart it is basically identical to the 350 legend at 200yds.
I definitely believe that they're on to something.. by developing these straight wall cartridges! They're designed for hunting whitetail hogs and black bear!
They're not designed for long range shooting!
As a hunter and target shooter.. I love the idea of low recoiling lightweight accurate firearms with inexpensive readily available ammo!
That is where the 350 Legend shines!
Even during the pandemic the ammo was easy to find.. I've actually seen it on the shelf ALONE! NOTHING else was available!
So hopefully the Buckhammer gets the same support from ammo manufacturers.. cause most folks want firearms that they can shoot!
I did notice that Winchester has been working on a 400 Legend! That sounds like another great cartridge ❤️
Supply and demand. When there is high supply and no demand...
I'm having 'fits' with mine. Three new scopes, Bushnell Elite 4500 1-4x24; Leupold 2-7x33; and a Burris 3-9x40; two different bases, Weaver 63B and Warne M864 2 piece; and Weaver Grand Slam rings. will group 3 shots 2-21/2" and then they open up to 4-5", sometimes groups jump across the target! I'm ready to send it back to Henry. Shooting factory Rem 200 gr by the way. Just got my 360 dies to begin reloading the 140 casings I now own.
You do a great job reviewing the rifle and cartridge. Thank you for showing us this new rifle and caliber. What is a box of rounds going for?
Love my favorite brush gun, my Marlin .35 Rem, but he took the words right out of my mouth on how rare multiple shots are on whitetails! That fact, and also satisfy the single shot requirement for at least a couple of southern primitive weapon seasons is why I see no need to shell out how much Henry or Marlin is wanting for their lever guns nowadays. So what cartridge should I get my single shot straight wall in? 360 BHR since I could reload the same bullets as my .35 Rem? Or 450 BM for a cartridge that maybe has more of a chance of sticking around?
I bought a Savage in .350 legend the year it came out. That same year I won a Winchester XPR in .350 Legend. I use my hand loads with 165 Hornady FTX bullets. I have taken 6 deer with 6 shots, only one manager to travel 20 yards after the shot. Low recoil, no muzzle blast, does not blow up meat, and in my guns off a bench rest .75 to 1 inch. I already have .360 Buckhammer dies and Speer 180 gr bullets, next is brass, and buy a Henry!
Bought the Henry .360 Buckhammer today.
I dont know why i cant stand henry rifles. Glad they came out with a loading gate. I also cant imagine a scope on a lever gun. I love my old jm stamped marlins.
My two personal go too's are 30.06 and .270
Those LED are neat!!!
The power and accuracy of the rifle are clearly evident
@@22pIinkster DONT DO IT IT IS A SCAM !!!!
You did that in one take with a distraction. You may not like talking but you do it well.
I like the rimmed case of the 360 Buckhammer. I'm more comfortable with the head space being on the rim of the case.
Make 30-30 great again.
$10 a box was legendary. Now it's $25. Wack.
$25?? The last box that I’ve seen in my area which was about a year ago was pushing $60 for 30-30. Ridiculous
Don't vote democrat, ever. The Republicans are already half democrat, anyway
It’s a great pig round and it’s still incredibly popular for that in my country. Ammo is $30-$50/20 so it’s not the cheapest thing to shoot.
@@Alan.livingston Buds Gun Shop and SGAmmo both have plenty of 30-30 available with the lowest prices
I've seen in recent years. Free shipping is also avaiable for some products and purchase
amounts.
How about .35 rem?
I hope you post a video of the deer and or the hunt with the 360
Straight wall cartridges are old tech. Its well known you get more pressure from a knecked cartridges using all the same bullets and powder while getting higher fps
Sure is a beautiful gun
@@22pIinkster DONT DO IT IT IS A SCAM !!!!
i have a 350 legend chambered scoped with a leupold freedom 3x9. i have had it two years and have taken 3 deer up to 275 pounds live and 4 boars up to 350 lbs live all 1 shot stops except for 1 boar. The 360 buckmaster in a henry is in my viewscreen
MIne too😀
Nice. But I think I will stick with the 30-30.
Been waiting dor this
Henry is a very good gun.
Scope looks RIDICULOUS on that. 🔭
Who_tee_hoo was getting roughly 3/4 inch groups. With one or two groups where all three rounds were touching!
I think for woods hunting, the .360 BH is going to become a darling amongst hunters.
For deer, black bears and wild hogs, this cartridge is going to be just right!
This guy seems like a really nice dude.
I hoped you would have added a .357 REM MAX to your comparison.
Good review.
Great content! Please do a Head to Head comparison on the 360 Buckhammer vs 375 Raptor or 7 Raptor?
7 raptor ?
Like the old 444 Marlin.
Love the idea of the 360 buckhammer I just worry about future support and getting that price point down per round
Reloading will get the price point way down.
Buy it and help make it popular. That's why the 6.5 creedmore is where it's at in popularity
it will go the way of tne much hyped wssm cartridges. we dont need new cartridges. we need more supply
@@ronalddavis It will sell big time. I have a 350 Legend, but I will add the 360 to the collection and try the 180gr bullets as soon as they are out.
Now ya got the 400 legend coming out
Every sporter weight barrel rifle I’ve owned groups two and chucks one when shooting three shot groups.
I love how companies wont just resurect the 35 rem rather than going through a bunch of r&d to develop an entirely new caliber... that nearly mimics the 35 rem.
35 rem isn’t a straight wall cartridge, and sadly that is a requirement in some states to hunt with a rifle.
38-55 or 375 win as well
@@eldorisgardnerAgreed, the 38-55 abd 375 win are superior especially for larger game but they aren't legal to use in some areas because of overall cartridge length restrictions. Hence the 350Legend and 360 Buckhammer designs fulfill the requirements.
35 rem needs to make a comeback for sure
So Henry makes the long ranger in 223, 243, 308, and 6.5 creedmoor so the could make the more popular 350 legend in a lever that has a wide variety of of ammunition available for those that don’t hand load hand loading is not for everyone Henry makes a great gun and I enjoy mine but try and find ammunition for the 360 Buckhammer you most likely will have to hand load to get enough ammunition and if you do find over the counter ammunition is it going to be accurate in your high price really nice Henry so many options with the 350 legend and is great for the young knew hunters
You need to re-visit the 350 legend. My Winchester XPR 16-1/2" barrel will group inch-and-a-half (and less) at 100 yards all day. And recoil is less than the 360. Ammo cost less than the 360. 350 Legend is AR compatible. (That doesn't matter to me but it's a biggie to some.) It has more than enough power to take deer, (and bigger game) at 150+ yards. In the "Straight-Wall-States" most deer are taken at 35 to 75 yards anyway. But, plenty of gun for what it's for. Low recoil is a biggie. I can shoot this thing all day with that bull barrel and low recoil.
You should try Winchester's 150 gr Extreme Point Copper Impact and the 150 gr Extreme Point. Both are very accurate and running over 2200 and 2300 fps. You might change your mind about them.
Keep up the good life, I love your channel.
Charlie
Agree, my buddy has a 350 XPR compact, 1-1/2" groups or better as well. So sweet to shoot. Low recoil.
A better straight all than 350 Legend. Good rifle and cartridge for Henry.
I assume the barrel heating for SAMMI spec .45LC loads would be significantly less.
No mention of the 400 legend
Hes a puppet for henry.
Since henry and remington teamed up for this cartridge/rifle, hes attempting to make it out to be everything. The 400L will be a hammer, better than this 360, a good fit between the 350L and 450bm. This 360 is just a poor addition, meant to try and capitalize on the small niche of the lever action (when henry could’ve just chambered the Long Ranger in 350L by swapping their .223 barrel for a 350L barrel). It wont last or reach the same status as the 350L, 400L and 450bm.
@@paintballmaniac21 thanks makes perfect sense
I’ve owned a few 350 legends from 3 different manufacturers. All shot 1 inch to inch and half groups at 100. Never seen one in my life shot 3-4 inch groups 😂😂
I think that the 400 legend is going to be a real winner … and fits into a ar platform … yes sir sign me up
Cool video
.7 moa group at 100 yards with cva cascade 350 legend
There's never any doubt that Henry makes a great gun. As far as the calibers go if you look at the boxes that you showed got 200 yards the 350 Legend has more energy. Granted it's just a little bit but that's all those 360 buchhammer has over the 350 Legend at 100 yards. I have customers it absolutely Rave about the 350 Legend. Plus it will also fit in an AR style platform.
Yes but the concept is that one isn’t shooting 200 plus with this cartridge
What counties in Michigan are you talking about that are straight wall cartridge only? I assume southern MI, I'm from Northern MI and we've never had any caliber restrictions other than we cant shoot deer with small calibers like .22.. We do however have cartridge limitations here in many counties in Maryland.. Shotgun/straight wall only in certain counties..and only archery in others..and then Region B which is any caliber that is legal to take a deer with. I hunt with 45-70 and love the caliber, but the 360 looks like a really solid choice for a future buy, something that won't beat my shoulders up as much. What is that Riton optic zeroed at?
Indiana doesn’t limit you to straight wall cartridges anymore. You can legally hunt with .308, .270, 30-06 etc but they set a lower end caliber limit which is .243. However I’m not sure about an upper end caliber limit.
Only on private property can you use high power rifles
Here in Michigan, my go toos are 450 bushmaster in my AR in the restricted zone and my 700 bdl in 7 mag in the other zones.Neither have ever failed to make a 1 shot kill.
This straight wall limitations are kind of Greek to me. What's the reason behind it?
Never mind. Probably kickbacks and inside trading by politicians.
But hell I prefer the 30-30.
Here, its distance bullet travels in more populated areas.
Love it!!!
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@@22pIinkster DONT DO IT IT IS A SCAM !!!!
Now u gave em an idea to come out with a 380 buck sludge hammer 😂😂
What’s the reasoning behind a straight wall cartridge only hunt? Range?
Half of my home state (New York) is shotgun only because they want to reduce the distance of bullet travel. I think a straight wall cartridge would be a much better option than slugs.
Indiana is limited in length of the strait wall….. at least when I lived there. So magnum hand gun rounds. 44, 357, 454, ,,,,
👍🏽 Michigan has case length restrictions for our “limited firearms zone” also. The .45/70 exceeds those restrictions so wouldn’t be legal in the restricted area, which is roughly the southern half of Michigan’s lower peninsula.
450 bushmaster is the king here in lower Michigan.
Works pretty good in the PNW rain forests as well.
Live in PA, bought one in a ruger ranch left hand from Randy's hunting center. Love it and it is accurate. nice rifle to walk with. Leupold 3-9, shoots 1-1/2" or better at 100 yards.
@@michaelrihel9584 yup,Hornaday black box , Leopold cds system works. Thanks for your comments.
Ty
Man, that Henry is a really Pretty Rifle. I’m really impressed with the .360 Buckhammer. Phenomenal Accuracy. I have a Question about the Optics. I always try to use at least a 50mm Objective Lens so I can gather more light in the early Morning and Evening. I see a lot of People using these small Objectives and was just wondering why?
There are several reasons. A 50mm objective lens is great for hunting whitetail back east where the majority of shots are happening at dusk and dawn or when hunting fur bearers at night. Like you mentioned a big objective gathers light well, but it has some drawbacks in other applications. First it’s bulky. Also, it doesn’t allow you to mount the scope very low. That’s real important for some I like that lever action with a lot of drop at the comb and heel of the stock to facilitate iron sights. Lastly, 50mm objectives are heavy. I mostly hunt sheep and goats in the alpine here in Alaska, so any ounce I shave off my rifle is a Godsend.
Also with the close ranges these guys are made for, you can see plenty within legal light.
I got the Vortex Crossfire II 3-9x50mm straight wall on my Henry 45-70. And I have the 2-7x32mm version on my Marlin 30-30, perfect optic parameters for it IMHO. The 50mm is very large and required tall rings and a cheek/comb riser. I think it's overkill for a straight wall scope. I also recently used a 1-6x24 LPVO and surprisingly it wasn't lacking in dusk/dawn conditions. I still don't understand how they achieve this. I used to dabble in amateur astronomy and geeked out on binoculars with 70mm objectives, but the scopes don't need as much power and as a result don't need as much aperture. I'm sure it's very useful for longer range. I like my Crossfires but I think a 1-6x LPVO might be the ideal lever action scope. And I'd resist the urge to get 8x or 10x, as they would cost more, be dimmer at full mag and yet you have to be at full mag to use the reticle for compensation.
I notice you didn't say anything about the .450 Bushmaster.
If their actually trying to sell these actually getting some out there including ammo for people to buy would be great.
Plenty of people (myself included) would like to get their hands on these in time for deer season this year, but production can’t possibly meet the demand. I want the single-shot version of a Henry in this cartridge, but my recent inquiry was answered (from Henry’s staff) that they are trying to meet demand for the lever-action variety first.
1.5” at 100 yards is a damn fine group if you ask me👍🏻
most of the rifles chambered in the straight walled cartridges are advertised as 1-1.5 MOA rifles anyway so shooting a 1.5" group is probably about as good as most people are gonna get for an avg anyway. you add the human factor in and atmospherics and most groups will be somewhere in the 4 and 5 inches for a good shooter at 200yrds with a stock rifle.
but i completely agree if you can hold a 1.5" group youre shootin just fine and shouldnt have any issues droppin deer.
375 Winchester Big Bore wasn't mentioned
Can you link the picitiny rail mont used in the video please. All I have fun is ring mount that work but I want to be able to run a red dot as well
Just like 350 legend except only more different
That Henry is one sweet looking buck hammer. However, good luck finding ammunition for it. Plan on reloading your own the next time there's a ammo shortage. The ammo for my super Redhawk chambered in 480 ruger has become unobtainable.
I loved the idea of this when it came out especially since it uses .35 rem bullets, BUT here’s where Henry really screwed up on this one- the price tag! You can buy a .350 legend in a bolt action Savage for $400-$500 depending on area. I haven’t seen a buckhammer in stores yet, but on Gunbroker the cheaper one on there is $900+. Sorry, I’m not spending a grand on a gun that I can use maybe 3 weeks out of the year for whitetail.
You get what you pay for.
I got a Winchester 1894 30-30 made 1907, and a 25-35 made 1907. Both 26" octagon barrels.takw way more than 5 rounds heat barrell up.nezt time I go shoot I make a note.let you know then.😊😊😊
Asking cause I don't know. What is the straight wall cartridge restriction all about??
Yea, it's neat, but I'll stick with my .350
Putting a scope on a lever action carbine is like putting a touch screen head unit in an El Camino.
Cool,hammer
@@22pIinkster DONT DO IT IT IS A SCAM !!!!
I was 15 with a 30-30 doe came busting through a high fence Christmas tree farm, I started blasting. All 8 shots and 4 hits. Only time I’ve shot more than once
The name alone will sell it self!
I think Winchester should shorten it's 375 Winchester and introduce the 375 Deer Slayer :)
350 Legend is a 30/30 in a straight wall case. 360 Buck Hammer is 35 Remington in a straight wall case.
Wish, they would make octagon 24-26" barrels I can't stand these puny barrels they don't balance well IMO !
Why reinvent the wheel (350 Buckhammer) instead of chambering in a existing cartridge like the 375 Winchester, or the 38/55 Winchester?
How would the 360 work on elk out to 100 yds with a 200 gr. round?
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More vaporware from Henry Repeating.
Love all the new calibers and rifles but man the costs are getting out of hand. And supply just won’t ever be there for these niche calibers. 350 and 400 legend the 360 bh, 450 bm, 45/70, 444 marlin, 44 mag 357 mag seems repetitive to me. Less calibers and better supply would be better.
The wood on that rifle is real pretty now that just had a case-hardened receiver to tie that dark beautiful wood together it would be damn near perfect
I would bet that in the future, Henry will make a version of this rifle with the case-hardened option. I recently contacted Henry about their single shot version of this, and the response was that they are going to be making those in the future, but not right now.
@@ronsamborski6230 cool something about case hardened and pretty wood just go together why I've always wants a Shiloh sharps rifle lol outta my price range
@@Allen338LM The demand for the two versions of this rifle (walnut & blued steel, and the X model) is going to be keeping Henry busy. The single shot and case-hardened variants I predict will be coming along once the initial demand is satisfied, which will probably be next year, maybe?
When you say indiana is straight wall, that is only on state land. Private land is anything .243 or bigger.
Where was the 450 bushmaster info?
The 450 Bushmaster is 200 fps faster than the 45-70, so I thought it was pointless to compare it to the Buckhammer.
Wish lever actions weren't so expensive and more of them came threaded