I have ordered the reprint of the main game. Awaiting delivery with trepidation over how complicated it is, but your video has reassured me, this game looks excellent! Thank you for a well explained video and for your infectious enthusiasm :)
Great playthrough, thanks for the effort. Rvery single time you shuffle you happened to leave the new stronger card you add to the deck as fhe next card you'll draw. Kept happening to. Lol
You are correct I was more interested in demonstrating what would have Happend. I should have been more clear on the chain break rule. Thanks for catching that I’ll make sure mention it in the next video. 😃😃👍
At about 39 mins in, when you're explaining the clearing of the Kratos pool with your titan that didn't attack, it isn't quite right. Because you didn't attack you don't perform any of the attack steps, the clear Kratos pool is step is part of the attack step sequences. Only attacking and hitting (clearing then filling) or full miss (only clearing) will clear the pool.
Actually he is correct. You clear the Kratos Pool even on a full miss. Here is the extract from the rules "All dice that are not hits are misses. If you miss with all your Attack dice, it is considered a full miss. Go straight to step 9 (Clear the Kratos Pool), without resolving any further Attack steps, then activate all “Full miss:” abilities and immediately end the Attack."
@@Rokku82 I agree with you and that's what I said above, a full miss will clear the pool. However you only generate a full miss if you attack and miss, If all you do is move then you don't perform any of the attack step sequences. Step 9 (Clear the Kratos Pool) is specifically a step in the attack sequence, not the general player sequence.
You are all correct. I didn't get that at first but after looking into all this yes I should have kept the Kratos pool alone since I didn't attack. I will be mentioning this in the next video thanks
Are you sure, you can provide Die's, Reroll and Pushback from your Kratos Table into the Kratos Pool? For my understanding the pool is only for tokens - extra die, reroll and pushback can use immediatley in your turn. Check out example on page 50 (Creating Power Dice Pools)
This is correct, tokens go into the kratos pool to help setup the next titan, but affects like dice re-rolls and pushbacks are used by the current titan.
Amazing video, thanks for sharing! I am really looking forward this game, getting to it mid January. What sleeves are you using? They fit tight, which is nice. I am considering SleeveKings for mine.
@47:50 you get resources multiplied with the primordial level 0 in tutorial so you get ambrosia etc x0 Makes sense if you read into the fast setup, then you get to the same setup solution then when you would play the tutorial. That´s why they mentioned the most forgotten rule is that you "multiply them with the level of the primordial."
AHHH that makes sense. it is a tutorial after all. I just figured if you did the battle you get something lol. I guess those blades will help maybe thanks Alexander
@@OneStopCoopShop Jup i played it with gaining resources too and then when i finished the tutorial i thought hmm let´s check the quickstart if anything differs. And then i told myself "okay they really meant multiply it with Zero" :)
@@zacharybrown9842 ah okay. Page 16 "For the future: Though you won´t need it now." jup seems like you are right. Then there is a difference between playing the tutorial and not playing it. Okay, that 6 resources won´t be worth playing the tutorial again if someone is not interested in it.
32:50 using fate to reroll can only be performed once per die and all dice need to be rolled at once. You cannot decide to spend another fate to reroll after the first fate was not enough to hit.
@@OneStopCoopShop looking forward to see your next video. Good paint job on the minis and I love your excitement for the game. It transports to the viewer. 😊
I believe the AI card escalation when you wound.a lvl 2 BP and gain a lvl 3 AI card replaces a lvl 2 AI card, not, as you did, a lvl 1. pg 53, second row.
@39:40 I would say reading the rules: You get only to the "Clear Kratos Pool" step when you actually attack. If you don´t attack in a round you don´t clear the Kratos Pool. See Rulebook Page 48, Clear Kratos Pool as step 9 of an "Combat Action" Please let me know if i am wrong but i think that is right because it´s all listed under attack and it would not make sense to just do 1 of the steps and not the others.
That is correct, in addition the movement and attack actions are both optional. You are not required to attack and do the attack sequence (or move for that matter).
I watched this because i didn't know anything about Aeon Trepass but have heard a lot of good things about it. I watched this and thought it was kingdom death. 🤣this looks great!
At 38 mins you just moved up you titan but you couldn't you have reached the primordial with with the rush maneuver move and attack. I think it gives you plus 1 movement and an auto break 1. Or did I make that up in my head.
Thanks for the great vid! A lot of rules i had to think about again (in a good way ofc). About the paintjob: i cant find the video/stream you were talking about. Can you help me out? Maybe a link? Thanks a lot
hello! out of curiosity, could you let me know what sleeves you are using? they look really nice! great playthrough, by the way, thanks. i am wondering if this would be an easier entry than KDM as i haven't played either before
First they are MayDay sleeves. second I dont know if its easier or harder to enter into Aeon Trespass I havent played enough of it yet sorry Im not much help but stay tuned more to come!
@26:30 if i get the rulebook right you don´t have to "hit" the second ability window always appears when you "attack". No other thing needed, makes sense because if it would only happen if you "hit" then it could end terribly for you over time. I just found a paragraph: "All attacks miss go to step 9 clear the Kratos Pool. After that you go to the second ability window." Means only if the titan died before the second ability window you don´t add tokens into the pool.
That makes sense. looked at the full miss means you skip the the second ability window and so you dont get to add tokens to the Kratos pool also death of a titan I think you still get to add, but not sure Ill have to look into it
@@OneStopCoopShop Yeah seems like in Monopoly. Directly go to jail "Step 9" and don´t take any other steps until you arrive at that step. For example don´t take money if you go over GO! :)
If you full miss you don’t do the second ability window (and therefore don’t add tokens. Per page 49 of rule book: If you miss with all your Attack dice, it is considered a full miss. Go straight to step 9 (Clear the Kratos Pool), without resolving any further Attack steps. The key bit is no further attack steps resolving
@@casualcainboardgames2814 The Question is. Is it meant like "go directly to step 9 and skip all attack steps until then" or skip all other attack steps from step 9 onwards? Did you get an official answer from ITU in regard to this? I am not sure how this was really meant. I am pretty sure that if you play it this way later on you will end only missing and dying at the end, because you need Kratos Tokens. But if it was intended that way then it´s fine. But i would like to get an official answer on this before.
Small error in the resources you gain. It's 4 Ambrosia not 4 Trireme. You only gain the mortal resources (Trireme, Monument, Armament) from the voyage phase.
When the Hekaton did that attack that killed your titan, but the titan got a counter attack on the way out, would your titan’s attack have populated the Kratos pool for the next attack?
So what does the priority target token do? Or is it just a pointless large lump of plastic which is handed round players and gets in the way? Or does it enter the arena and fight?
I’ve never had an issue reading them. There are black and white dice that may have half a dozen symbols on one side so either the symbols on the red ones are way bigger and bolder than the others or they look a little wimpy because they are.
mmm im not sure i like the way the titan can die, just some random punch and dead, like i dont get a clear idea of what my HP is because there arent any and a random card after 3 hits can kill you instantly, i dont see that as fun,, looks frustrating as hell.
Yeah always 4 and by the end of cycle each gets to be complicated and unique. But you build them up slowly so by then you get to know them pretty well.
I am at the 5th replay of the combat tutorial. The first three times I got horribly abused. Mostly by cursed diced but also knockdowns. The 4th I won. I was so proud and happy until I realized I totally forgot to draw the trauma cards. So far, I am really disappointed by how much this combat system is dice luck dependent. It is really frustrating.
Want to sell off your disappointment to me? I can take it off your hands for USD50. I mean, what's the point of keeping disappointments in your life? Like Marie Kondo once said, if it doesn't give you sparkles and unicorns, it is time to Let it Go!
Many of the trauma cards are beneficial, especially in the minor/major decks. Some tips for Hekaton: he usually attacks nearest in front or the priority target. He often knocks back. He sometimes does zone attacks. So keep that in mind to avoid setting yourself up for zone attacks or crash into columns. It’s ok to miss some attack opportunities, be a little cautious. You can use his pushbacks to pull him into range. In general it’s good to just accept full miss in the first couple rounds too. It builds your rage and doesn’t escalate the primordial. It’s swingy and you can get some bad luck streaks but if you carefully position and consider your choices there are a lot of ways to mitigate that.
You know you can re-roll your dice too, right? And each attack increases your Rage giving you access to higher levels of the Kratos chart to add more tokens to make it easier to hit? If you were getting abused, the Hekaton also wasn’t getting stronger cause you weren’t wounding it-it sounds like you were missing more than just the Trauma cards.
Try to position yourself so the Hekaton crashes into columns. This makes it easier to wound him. Also make sure you rigged the trauma decks for tutorial. Many are beneficial so if you forgot them, it put you at a big disadvantage. Good luck.
I understand your frustration, but having a challenge is one thing and haveing complete disappointment is another. I hope this game treats you well in the future or finds a new home
This game is amazing and so are you. Your excitement for this game is contagious and I'm loving it.
Thank you Keven more to come soon!!!!
I have ordered the reprint of the main game. Awaiting delivery with trepidation over how complicated it is, but your video has reassured me, this game looks excellent! Thank you for a well explained video and for your infectious enthusiasm :)
That final shot lol. Looking forward to whatever's next, and happy new year!!
Thank you Nifarious!!!
So awesome.
Thank you for this.
you welcome Oliver
What a great Christmas video present!!!!
Thank you Noahshu great to hear from you
Great video, waiting for the next one 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Thank you Juan it’s coming soon. 😃😃👍
This was great. Thanks 🤘🤘
Your so welcome Frederick
Great playthrough, thanks for the effort. Rvery single time you shuffle you happened to leave the new stronger card you add to the deck as fhe next card you'll draw. Kept happening to. Lol
It totally did!!! I was so convinced those cards were going to kill me lol!!!!
Awesome! Looking forward to more of this. Hopefully I can pick this game up in the next standalone crowdfunding spinoff of ATO that they're doing.
Yes I hope you can this game has exceeded my expectations for sure!!! 😃😃👍
Great watch man this is really helpful. And you didn´t need to add klingons.. lol Congratz
HAHAHA!!! thanks glad you enjoyed it
@@OneStopCoopShop great. Now (being naughty) get on with it lol
I think when you hit them as a result of a trauma card it causes a 'chain-break' and ends the rest of the monsters attack.
You are correct I was more interested in demonstrating what would have Happend. I should have been more clear on the chain break rule. Thanks for catching that I’ll make sure mention it in the next video. 😃😃👍
Never mind heroic death, I'm all about cowardly survival! 🐔🐔 lol
Thanks Bairnt, great fun. Looking forward to the next episode!
Hahahaha!!! pencilpauli that was great!!! yes run and maybe fight another day lol
At about 39 mins in, when you're explaining the clearing of the Kratos pool with your titan that didn't attack, it isn't quite right. Because you didn't attack you don't perform any of the attack steps, the clear Kratos pool is step is part of the attack step sequences. Only attacking and hitting (clearing then filling) or full miss (only clearing) will clear the pool.
Actually he is correct. You clear the Kratos Pool even on a full miss. Here is the extract from the rules
"All dice that are not hits are misses. If you miss with all your Attack dice, it is considered a full miss. Go straight to step 9 (Clear the Kratos Pool), without resolving any further Attack steps, then activate all “Full miss:” abilities and immediately end the Attack."
@@Rokku82 I agree with you and that's what I said above, a full miss will clear the pool. However you only generate a full miss if you attack and miss, If all you do is move then you don't perform any of the attack step sequences. Step 9 (Clear the Kratos Pool) is specifically a step in the attack sequence, not the general player sequence.
You are all correct. I didn't get that at first but after looking into all this yes I should have kept the Kratos pool alone since I didn't attack. I will be mentioning this in the next video thanks
Thank you
Your welcome Benjamin
Awesome
Thank you
Are you sure, you can provide Die's, Reroll and Pushback from your Kratos Table into the Kratos Pool?
For my understanding the pool is only for tokens - extra die, reroll and pushback can use immediatley in your turn.
Check out example on page 50 (Creating Power Dice Pools)
This is correct, tokens go into the kratos pool to help setup the next titan, but affects like dice re-rolls and pushbacks are used by the current titan.
Zachary is correct I misunderstood how the pool works the rerolls are yours the tokens are for the next attack
YES YES YES🎉
FOR SURE!!!!! this is amazing!!!
Massive Game!
It sure it can't wait to continue!!
Amazing video, thanks for sharing! I am really looking forward this game, getting to it mid January.
What sleeves are you using? They fit tight, which is nice. I am considering SleeveKings for mine.
Thank you I use Mayday but Sleeve kings will also work I believe I have never used them
Merry Christmas to us!!!
Thank you merry Christmas to you too!!!!
@47:50 you get resources multiplied with the primordial level 0 in tutorial so you get ambrosia etc x0
Makes sense if you read into the fast setup, then you get to the same setup solution then when you would play the tutorial. That´s why they mentioned the most forgotten rule is that you "multiply them with the level of the primordial."
AHHH that makes sense. it is a tutorial after all. I just figured if you did the battle you get something lol. I guess those blades will help maybe thanks Alexander
@@OneStopCoopShop Jup i played it with gaining resources too and then when i finished the tutorial i thought hmm let´s check the quickstart if anything differs. And then i told myself "okay they really meant multiply it with Zero" :)
The quickstart actually says that rule doesn't apply in that quickstart battle so you would still get resources as if it was level 1.
@@zacharybrown9842 ah okay. Page 16 "For the future: Though you won´t need it now." jup seems like you are right.
Then there is a difference between playing the tutorial and not playing it. Okay, that 6 resources won´t be worth playing the tutorial again if someone is not interested in it.
32:50 using fate to reroll can only be performed once per die and all dice need to be rolled at once. You cannot decide to spend another fate to reroll after the first fate was not enough to hit.
Correct I missed that I’ll be discussing that in the next video so everyone knows. Thank you Tim. 😃😃👍
@@OneStopCoopShop looking forward to see your next video. Good paint job on the minis and I love your excitement for the game. It transports to the viewer. 😊
@@Hisokegon88thank you
I believe the AI card escalation when you wound.a lvl 2 BP and gain a lvl 3 AI card replaces a lvl 2 AI card, not, as you did, a lvl 1. pg 53, second row.
Indeed, you're right!
And also, thank you. Very useful vid. Still waiting for my copy.
Thank you I didn't realize that Ill make sure to mention it in the next video. Nothing like making it harder on myself lol!!!!
32:56 Rulebook on Pg.8
.You must declare all dice you wish to re-roll before you perform any of these re-rolls.
Correct thank you Ball I’ll be mentioning that in the next video!! 😃😃👍
@39:40 I would say reading the rules:
You get only to the "Clear Kratos Pool" step when you actually attack. If you don´t attack in a round you don´t clear the Kratos Pool. See Rulebook Page 48, Clear Kratos Pool as step 9 of an "Combat Action"
Please let me know if i am wrong but i think that is right because it´s all listed under attack and it would not make sense to just do 1 of the steps and not the others.
That is correct, in addition the movement and attack actions are both optional. You are not required to attack and do the attack sequence (or move for that matter).
thank you for the help all make sure to mention it in the next video
Yosssssss finally 🎉🎉🎉
Yossssss!!!!!! Brian it is amazing to hear form you !!!!!!!!!😃😃👍
@@OneStopCoopShop I’m back sir 🥹 it’s been a while.
I watched this because i didn't know anything about Aeon Trepass but have heard a lot of good things about it. I watched this and thought it was kingdom death. 🤣this looks great!
There are many similarities with KDM this is going to be a winner
At 38 mins you just moved up you titan but you couldn't you have reached the primordial with with the rush maneuver move and attack. I think it gives you plus 1 movement and an auto break 1. Or did I make that up in my head.
I totally didn’t use my titans abilities I forgot a hit them.
Thanks for the great vid! A lot of rules i had to think about again (in a good way ofc). About the paintjob: i cant find the video/stream you were talking about. Can you help me out? Maybe a link? Thanks a lot
Of course I will link it I can't believe I forgot to do that thanks for reminding me!!
hello! out of curiosity, could you let me know what sleeves you are using? they look really nice! great playthrough, by the way, thanks. i am wondering if this would be an easier entry than KDM as i haven't played either before
First they are MayDay sleeves. second I dont know if its easier or harder to enter into Aeon Trespass I havent played enough of it yet sorry Im not much help but stay tuned more to come!
@26:30 if i get the rulebook right you don´t have to "hit" the second ability window always appears when you "attack". No other thing needed, makes sense because if it would only happen if you "hit" then it could end terribly for you over time.
I just found a paragraph:
"All attacks miss go to step 9 clear the Kratos Pool. After that you go to the second ability window."
Means only if the titan died before the second ability window you don´t add tokens into the pool.
That makes sense. looked at the full miss means you skip the the second ability window and so you dont get to add tokens to the Kratos pool also death of a titan I think you still get to add, but not sure Ill have to look into it
@@OneStopCoopShop Yeah seems like in Monopoly. Directly go to jail "Step 9" and don´t take any other steps until you arrive at that step. For example don´t take money if you go over GO! :)
Now i feel the urge to play AT:O with Monopoly money..... Harharhar
If you full miss you don’t do the second ability window (and therefore don’t add tokens.
Per page 49 of rule book: If you miss with all your Attack dice, it is considered a full miss. Go straight to step 9 (Clear the Kratos Pool), without resolving any further Attack steps.
The key bit is no further attack steps resolving
@@casualcainboardgames2814 The Question is. Is it meant like "go directly to step 9 and skip all attack steps until then" or skip all other attack steps from step 9 onwards? Did you get an official answer from ITU in regard to this? I am not sure how this was really meant. I am pretty sure that if you play it this way later on you will end only missing and dying at the end, because you need Kratos Tokens. But if it was intended that way then it´s fine. But i would like to get an official answer on this before.
Small error in the resources you gain. It's 4 Ambrosia not 4 Trireme. You only gain the mortal resources (Trireme, Monument, Armament) from the voyage phase.
AH thanks Ill make sure to mention that in the next video
When the Hekaton did that attack that killed your titan, but the titan got a counter attack on the way out, would your titan’s attack have populated the Kratos pool for the next attack?
Yep. Bonus attacks are normal attacks in terms of how they’re played out. So they still get a second phase to deposit tokens.
Thanks Scott yes I was wrapped up in the fact my titan died heroically if forgot that step
So what does the priority target token do? Or is it just a pointless large lump of plastic which is handed round players and gets in the way? Or does it enter the arena and fight?
Purely cosmetic. It was a free upgrade.
@@samruppert9465 No it is not. Stop spreading misinformation. The priority token is a tie-breaker when two or more Titans have equal rRage.
Correct it’s a tie breaker. I should have mentioned that that was the reason the monster went after that titan
@@Rodinov_ClawThe mini is purely a cosmetic lump of plastic. The token has a purpose.
@@pete4922 Mark's question is about the token, not the mini. So I answer based on the question posed. You do not need to expand the context
The symbols on those red dice look quite... small and flimsy, right?
I’ve never had an issue reading them. There are black and white dice that may have half a dozen symbols on one side so either the symbols on the red ones are way bigger and bolder than the others or they look a little wimpy because they are.
Its not to bad I think cus its on camera they seem harder to read then they are in reality
mmm im not sure i like the way the titan can die, just some random punch and dead, like i dont get a clear idea of what my HP is because there arent any and a random card after 3 hits can kill you instantly, i dont see that as fun,, looks frustrating as hell.
You might not enjoy it then, because yes, random draws can kill you sometimes.
But hey that’ll save you hundreds of dollars! 😅
I'm really nervous to watch this. I've heard so much good about this, but I really don't want to buy another big game :)
HAHAHAH!!!! Kevin that was awesome! I think this is going to be a really fun game
@@OneStopCoopShopWell you’re enthusiasm got me. I sold my gamblers chest and bought this. Looking forward to this.
Woah there, not sure Bairnt would support ditching KDM!!!
@@OneStopCoopShop Just the Gambler's Chest
Can you play with 1 character in this game?
Only 4
Yeah always 4 and by the end of cycle each gets to be complicated and unique. But you build them up slowly so by then you get to know them pretty well.
Yes the others are correct you have to play with 4 unless you dont have that many and if you can't place a titan it is a loss condition
@@OneStopCoopShop will Kingdoms forlorn be 1 Character? I may pull the trigger on a late pledge, was teying to read through the KS updates.
KF is also 4 only, at least from what I remember covering the prototype - Mike
I am at the 5th replay of the combat tutorial. The first three times I got horribly abused. Mostly by cursed diced but also knockdowns.
The 4th I won. I was so proud and happy until I realized I totally forgot to draw the trauma cards.
So far, I am really disappointed by how much this combat system is dice luck dependent. It is really frustrating.
Want to sell off your disappointment to me? I can take it off your hands for USD50. I mean, what's the point of keeping disappointments in your life? Like Marie Kondo once said, if it doesn't give you sparkles and unicorns, it is time to Let it Go!
Many of the trauma cards are beneficial, especially in the minor/major decks.
Some tips for Hekaton: he usually attacks nearest in front or the priority target. He often knocks back. He sometimes does zone attacks. So keep that in mind to avoid setting yourself up for zone attacks or crash into columns. It’s ok to miss some attack opportunities, be a little cautious. You can use his pushbacks to pull him into range.
In general it’s good to just accept full miss in the first couple rounds too. It builds your rage and doesn’t escalate the primordial.
It’s swingy and you can get some bad luck streaks but if you carefully position and consider your choices there are a lot of ways to mitigate that.
You know you can re-roll your dice too, right? And each attack increases your Rage giving you access to higher levels of the Kratos chart to add more tokens to make it easier to hit? If you were getting abused, the Hekaton also wasn’t getting stronger cause you weren’t wounding it-it sounds like you were missing more than just the Trauma cards.
Try to position yourself so the Hekaton crashes into columns. This makes it easier to wound him. Also make sure you rigged the trauma decks for tutorial. Many are beneficial so if you forgot them, it put you at a big disadvantage. Good luck.
I understand your frustration, but having a challenge is one thing and haveing complete disappointment is another. I hope this game treats you well in the future or finds a new home