Hawkgirl & Guy Gardner Suit BACKLASH & LordTech in SUPERMAN Explained!
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- Hawkgirl & Guy Gardner Suit BACKLASH & LordTech in SUPERMAN Explained! - We discuss the news on James Gunn DC Universe covering Superman set photos of Hawkgirl, Guy Gardner Green Lantern, Superman and Mister Terrific. Covering Superman set filming revealing LordTech and what this means for heroes in the DCU, and how Maxwell Lord is sponsoring heroes through LordTech, comic book influences from Justice League International, The Terrifics and Conglomerate. Also covering Superman, Clark Kent and Lex Luthor theories, and Metamorpho's origin and more on Superman Legacy plot theories and more DCU Gods and Monsters, Justice League, factoring in other DCU News, DCU Leaks and more!
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SUPERMAN SET PHOTOS used courtesy of: Michael Collier, Erik Drost (edrost88), OBV Photography, SlimJoc & Greater Cleveland Partership
ARTWORK USED:
Superman edit/Maxwell Lord featured in thumbnail by: Jobhutz
Guy Gardner/Hawkgirl artwork used in video: WillishAddo & cm_desenho
Superman video of symbol by: @mbejaranoweb
Video Chapters:
0:00 - Hawkgirl/Guy Gardner Suit Backlash
8:18 - LordTech/Maxwell Lord's Involvement
9:48 - Sponsored Heroes - JLI, Terrifics & Conglomerate
13:23 - The State of Corporate Heroes in DCU
15:49 - Superman Disrupts the Status Quo/Luthor Retaliation
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Would love to hear your thoughts on everything I discuss! - *Link to photos of Hawkgirl, Guy Gardner & Mister Terrific set photos:* shorturl.at/n4oPz
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It's purposely different for Lordtech's International, isn't it? I'm betting they'll get their REAL hero outfits later in the movie
@@marcusyates3044 Yes of course! But, the current team suits being 'purposely different' doesn't mean they can't be executed in a more interesting way as uniforms to those fans who don't really like them & I understand that perspective and even feel it myself quite a bit.
okay , you asked. first off they don't look that bad on paper in 2 dimensions. "design" isn't that much of a problem. Actual creation of the suits, fitment and materials IMO are terrible.
secondly the idea of a Lantern, even Guy being a corporate tool of Lordtech is a terrible idea and Hawkgirl is even worse. Gunn better have a real good explanation of why they would subjorn themselves for a paycheck because it's beyond me. Supposedly this is a world where "heroes" kill and act as agents of the govt through a defense contractor. It reeks of Vought corp and the Seven from "The Boys". Only a milder version of course. And according to rumor Lex being part of this military-industrial- metahuman complex creating an Ultraman clone of Supes that goes rogue is another stolen idea from a couple of other Superman movies. I was hoping for something really original and it seems very derivative of several other projects. At least Matt Reeves is out there doing great things with these properties. I hope I'm wrong but I'm not expecting much. Maybe we will be surprised like we were with the 2nd Suicide Squad film. But as of right now I'm not feeling it.
What Is That
No one is upset about your opinion on these suits or anyone with similar criticisms because they're in good faith.
The problem with the conversation around these suits and this movie as a whole is the toxic Snyder cult that hate on everything and follow it up with saying that this movie will flop and Gunn should be fired.
It's past time to blame the large amount of criticism of the film on Snyder cultists. It goes way beyond that. Superman is getting trashed across the board and friendly podcaster like Film Junkee are starting to have doubts. His comment on the Gunn suits "meh". John Campea's panel is also expressing doubts about the film though John remains on board.
@@randyodonnell7579 you're lying
It’s not a cult thing Zack actual made cool suits and the rest followed the trend even Black Adam knew what’s up it was a standard but when you give superman panties it kills the standard for the rest
yes the general theory is that Terrific, GL, and Hawkgirl are sponsored heroes of Maxwell Lord which is why they have all have a "uniform" of sorts that all look similar with a kind of plain and somewhat dull "corporate" aesthetic compared to Superman's more vibrant appearance
I get but do they have to look that terrible 😂 I’m hoping hawk girl and guy Gardner get real suits at some point in the movie because if this is it 🚮
Not really a theory, they each have a Lord Tech logo on their chests.
@@bdukes8075 of course they will, characters evolve... or do y'all really think they're gonna have the same suits for the ENTIRETY of the DCU?
@@thefreerocketman5777 you saying of course they will like you work in production 😂 and even if they do doesn’t mean the suit will get much better if they saw these suits and thought they were a good idea. The Superman suit is ok. Mr Terrific is decent but a mainly white suit GREEN LANTERN is ridiculous and this suit on Hawk girl looks crazy
@@bdukes8075 you don't have to be a genius to know the characters will evolve and have better suits, it's called character development, something Gunn is known for being good at. Remember the first Captain America suit? The very first that he wore on campaign, it was uglier than these and naturally served its purpose and was improved once the character evolved
i’m not the biggest fan of the suits but I do feel we need to wait for the final touches they’ll add during post production before we completely write them off
Agreed cuz a lot of times they look way better in the actual movie
Exactly.But sadly,it's the era we live in.People are always quick to hate or criticize without even waiting for a trailer or the movie.To see how it is on the big screen.
Folks just give this movie and its suits a chance until we get to see the film in the big screen. Geez
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@@wa-bu3ke shut the hell up you miserable liar because you're not true DC fan , you're fake DC fan and you're so afraid to admit that the old DCEU franchise aka snyderverse is such an abysmal failure , Do you understand ?
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It'd be interesting if the team is called... Justice Lords. A nod to the DCAU's version of the Crime Syndicate, but also a reference to Max Lord himself.
This video has barely been out for 10 minutes and there are already crackheads in the comment section
Gunn is doing his job he got us theorizing.
Superhero discourse is so annoying. Obviously the suits have a story purpose, I care way more about the story being told with them than about how accurate they might be.
Get out of here…you think the general public knows or cares about that…they see a wack suit and they’ll make judgement..so why even write this into the script?
@@92kris You really said "Let's cater to the morons and dipshits" with your whole chest.
@@MajorNuance Yeah not the stance I would have taken haha. Personally I think we should prioritize writing a good story over one that will make people clap when they see set photos, but I guess that person feels differently
Even if those are the suits if it's as well written as his other DC stuff these same people whining will be pre ordering hot toys' version of these exact suits
@@KobytheHero I'm convinced these people don't want a movie, just character posters to wax poetic about so that they can pretend to have a hobby
It's purposely different for Lordtech's International, isn't it? I'm betting they'll get their REAL hero outfits later in the movie
Exactly idky this is mentioned for often. It seems like the theme of the movie since Superman is all colorful and the kids are more drawn to him. They’re most likely gonna follow in his footsteps.
Good theory
and im sure their real suits will look just as bad and cheap as superman's lmao
@@wibblesmcscribbles3018 if a suit is the main thing you’re worried about with a superhero movie idk what to tell you
@@codybischoff1010 lmao u can criticize one aspect while enjoying other aspects. I think Snyders Superman suit is better but his movies are literal trash. Expand your tiny brain lmao.
Thank you for this video Boba. These suits are temporary, in my opinion. I’m sure either Mr. Terrific/suits pre-Maxwell Lord will make their appearances/mainstays
I think a lot of us hate the GL and HW outfits because they don’t look like the comics. If that’s how they looked in the comics, I don’t think as many people would be upset.
Fingers crossed that they are influenced by Superman to quit working for LordTech and be themselves with their comic accurate outfits like Superman has.
That is exactly it. Everyone likes the Mr. Terrific design. GL and HW have basically the same costume as Mr. Terrific. So if their suits are objectively bad, then shouldn’t we have the same problem with Mr. Terrific?
Those people can't handle when things don't go as they expect to, they don't know how to handle frustration. It's obvious that those suits aren't definitive, and that their looks are based on Terrific's because he's probably the leader of the team. It's also clear that Superman is going to inspire them to rebel against Lord, which literally means they won't be wearing those suits in future projects.
My theory is that Hawkgirl and Guy Gardiner have been around for a while. And, similar to Incredibles 2, superheroes in this universe have started to become disliked in the public eye, so Maxwell Lord steps in to sponsor these heroes so they can win back the trust of the public, not realizing he has sinister motives. Enter Superman, a hero who stands on his own, who stand for truth, justice and, well, you know. By the end of this movie I think Superman will help the other heroes remember why they started doing this job and inspire them to don their original costumes from the glory days
He will bring them Hope
Tbh I won't start judging until the trailer, live you stuff boba, been watching since Gotham
Appreciate you watching for so long!
Basically, 'Lord Tech' in this Superman movie will be what 'Voight International' is to The Boys. Presumably, they will have a 'team' name, but we just don't yet know what it will be. They also wouldn't willingly work for a villain, so at this point in the movie, Maxwell Lords true intentions and schemes haven't been revealed yet, and hes simply a wealthy industrialist who owns a team of superheroes the way a company or entrepreneur can own a sports team.
@erikwebber6038
thanks for your explaining
I think every major tech corporation in the DCU has its own superhero team, except for Wayne Tech. If we assume that LuthorCorp is trying to compete against LordTech, we can assume that Maxwell Lord will play a minor antagonist role for both Superman and Lex Luthor.
I feel like I can adjust to the LordTech suits and why they are like that eventually, but that doesnt change what it looks like and its not exactly what I wished for
These suits not being what the heroes should look like is their entire point, HG and GL won't be using them for the entire run of the DCU, what we saw from the leaked footage shows a very clear narrative of how they aren't acting like the heroes they should be and Superman is way more popular than them because of that, they'll have their comic accurate suits by the end of the movie or their next appearance at the latest
I trust James Gunn
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@@BrutalVengeance89184 Do you not feel pathetic keeping a list of troll accounts, knowing that they're trolls?
@@MajorNuance No , I don't because Snyder bots need to be punished for spreading dirty lies about the old DCEU and the new DCU
@@BrutalVengeance89184 It's not that deep. You're just terminally online.
Waller and Lord are a tag team same paymaster different goal's you play either as the anti hero and as we know Waller it gives other options
Boba,as an artist myself.I love that you does highlight the artists behind the cover art on your channel.
I really don’t get the drama with these suits, they’re basically all the Mr. Terrific suit made into a Team Uniform. The implied context makes it perfectly clear to me what these suits are and I think they accomplish that perfectly. I like the material on Mr. Terrific so I think it works on the others too.
I get and respect Boba’s specific points but I don’t get a lot of the overall criticism being thrown at them
Big fan of the content!! Keep up the great work!
The logo is in the shape of a J and L and I in the center. Do with that what thou wilt.
I noticed that as well. Fits right into the JLI.
I can only see a guy flexing his muscles like 💪🏼
@@claudiabcarvalho hahah now I cant unsee it
@@eliovertime Great ways to call back to the lore. We dont need it to be called Terrifics or JLI to understand the point of state and corproate sponsored heroes.
@@sygnwav_syndicate Agree 100%. I believe we won’t get the JLA just yet. I think it’ll be “The Terrifics,” owned by Maxwell Lord, and led by Mr. Terrific. I think the color scheme alone gives that away. I see the transition into the JLA after the Booster Gold TV show.
I think the suits are not supposed to be as appealing in comparison to the Superman suit. Superman is supposed to stick out among these “heroes” so I think it’s best for people to wait for the movie because things look way different in camera and the context of the story is also a big part of it.
I like that you study into detail Boba, do your thing man 🔥💯 thank you for this video
It still amazes me how stupid and reactionary people can be. They never think before they complain.
People lack critical thinking these days, it’s obvious that Superman is going to be portrayed as a true hero and he’s going to inspire these shill superheroes to be more heroic and then they will get their real suits, think about it more than just surface level people
A lot of people are programmed to consume product then move on to the next product.
I'm looking forward to it. You never know, maybe the bitching will force them to add accurate suits if they haven't.
@@Tyrgermanic yeah I doubt they will keep those suits, but if they do then I’ll join the hate train lol
I agree my only question is Hawkgirl. What is her backstory? Because if she is Alien or Ancient magic whatever she was wearing prior to Lordtech had to be better than that.
@@t.r.1442 he's not going to explain every backstory. Even Rocket didn't get a backstory til his 6th appearance. Groot never did. Remember King Shark? It might be a one sentence explanation "she's from space or Egypt or something I don't know"
The suit backlash is dumb because people hating clearly see the Lordtech logo on them signaling they were made by Lord to be more corporate. Meaning he probably funds the team and to make way for the JLI, while Superman wears his own distinct vibrant suit with its own identity. This is obviously a narrative decision, and the most clearly overt visual storytelling Gunn has done. People can’t possibly believe that when we see Hal and Jon for the first time, they’ll be wearing the suit Guy has on. No, they’ll be wearing their corps suits.
@@NoirNameless don’t see no lordtech logo on Superman’s suit
Snyder loyalists believes that ALL lanterns and thanagarians are sporting lord maxwell suits complete with its trademark logos n wearing em on planet OA n Thanagar!Thats an out of this world outsource dealings this lord tech has...literally😂😂😂
On OA..
Lantern1:dude,my suit doesn't have a lord tech copyright© tag..
Lantern2:uve been scammed.told u not to buy from random seller..Mine's original..Look!
@@wibblesmcscribbles3018 Because Superman wouldn’t be funded by Lord in the movie. Which is why he doesn’t have one. Never said his suit had one in the first place. Read. 😒
@@syamilshazlan862 I love how they pretend not to care about this movie, yet every small shred of news we get, they trash. Lol 😂😂
@@NoirNameless then there is no excuse for his rubber motorcycle suit then 😂
Thankyou ❤ leather ages well and doesn't look fake it adds warmth and realism ESPECIALLY on camera close up...Indiana Jones? Star wars so many leather suits in the classics 🎉
I feel like the point of the sort of "stock suits" is that it helps Superman standout more as a different kind of hero. And since it's likely a reverse Kingdom Come story, having the other heroes leaving their corporate sponsors at the end of the movie and donning their more iconic suits will make for a cool reveal.
are we still arguing the suit from leak photos? is this the first superhero film ever made? cmon guys just wait for the final product... You guys did this for The Batman Pattinson Suit and turns out amazing in the movie so just wait...
Dang bobba, I thought a lot of the same thing but you got me excited again for the movie. The Superman suit is growing on me😮
The suits always change whether they’re the best looking suits or the worst looking suits. The suits are gonna always change. We seen too many comic book movies, and sequels to real not to realize that.
There will be 3 fans waiting in line to see the new Superman movie.
I feel like that 47 doing it to mess w you 😂
sean gunn as maxwell lord cracks me up so hard lmfao, james gunn's very own superpower: *nepotism*
I seriously hate "uniform unitard clothes as superhero costumes" aesthetic. say what you will about Black Adam, Hawkman looked like a badass, and most importantly, Hawkman.
Is it just me, or does the Lordtech logo look like it has the letters J and L in the negative space?
Good info.
Boba could you do a video of what comics we should read in preparation for the DCU?
Maybe they have to go to a company meeting and they have to wear their uniform.
This won't be their final siut. This is more of a uniform because they work for lod tech. They will get their comic accurate suits maybe before the end of the movie.
While I do agree that the inspiration of the team is a mix of the conglomerate, the terrifics and JLI, the logo on their chest makes it likely they'll go by the name JLI ( if referenced at all).
This move is still so early lol and people are judging based off a screen shot? That hasn’t been edited? I don’t understand this. James loves the source material and I am so excited for his vision. And I am not a Superman fan, but I am actually super stoked to take my son to the movies for his first movie in theater
There's quite a lot of close up photos now where you can see the design choice they've gone for with the uniforms and execution of material they've used, and that's more than enough for people to get a first impression, despite not seeing the suits in motion. You know me, I'm looking forward to the movie but I'm not going to pretend that people can't form opinions on designs of a suit that are seen even in set photos. I always say to reserve some judgement, but people can use their eyes to see if they 'vibe with a design' so to speak.
what you talking about put put official pics of superman suit. it looks cheap. plus superman looked like he didnt jave to rush save city being attacked. so you think thats good impression?
@@JosephHandibodeso if the suit look cheap superman is just a farm boy not iron man the suit dont make superman superman bro people just crying to cry the movie will come out no matter wat and the general audience will have the last say if this movie work are not.
Kind of proving his point with this reply @@JosephHandibode
@@MyDeeroc lmao the “down to earth” cheap suit cope. ALL the suits look cheap. Billionaire Maxwell lord making cheap ass looking CW suits too??
I think the reason the costumes are designed the way they are is because of Maxwell Lord. He controls the team and has them wearing his logo. He's assembled a group of superheroes and put them in uniform. Maybe by the end of the movie, they'll switch to their original costumes and become part of something greater, perhaps with the help of Superman, showing them a better way.
Lordtec is part of a future plot line an aperitif, otherwise Superman would only have Lex before the real JLA movie
What if the team is called justice lords . Or justice lords America , or just justice lord association so it’s not “of America “ and they eventually leads into justice league international
The costumes and the team IS obviously a mix of The Terrific’s, The conglomerate & JLI all ran by Maxwell Lord. These will be tightened up in post as well and it will probably be disbanded by the end of the movie.
Gunn is going for esthetics in this film (we were also told each film will have its own). Look at all the muted colors in the clothes of all the extras, so I can imagine this is all done purposefully to make Sups stand apart from not only the people of earth but also the “hero’s” of earth as well. I could also see the color tones changing as the film progresses and the people’s eyes are opened to a new perspective.
Just a month ago we were all complaining about the lack of info about this movie and Gunn has already stated “No major spoilers would be filmed out in public”. So, none of us know the full vision of this film and won’t until it’s released.
Just chill and enjoy the fact we have a Director who cares about DC characters, their stories and wants to bring them to the screen. At least we know he’s not completely destroying who they are, only to justify a sick twisted version of “Gods” he wants to project onto us(he who shall not be named).
When you let the big guy wear undies what do you expect the rest to do , this is what I loved about the mcu they made the suite cool not the comic book accurate stuff they made them better while trying to stick to the comic look but not too much , cause Guy definitely doesn’t need to have that hair it can be different
Looks like a version of Mr. terrific team costumes from the Terrifics.
Honestly at first glance, I thought the Lordtech logo was a “JL” and I was super confused
I’d be cool with them keeping the Lordtech jackets but starting to wear their own individual suits underneath later on in the movie. I think that’s a good compromise.
If you look carefully...Superman suit follows the same design with the shoulder pad design..so it's safe to assume that Superman is part of that Max Lord team.
@@Crooklynmike I'm 99.9% sure that Superman isn't sponsored/funded by corporate LordTech.
Guy has the easiest GL suit to get right. I really do hope this is setting up a more comic accurrate look
I was so excited to see Guy Gardner and more importantly, see Nathan play a live action, Green Lantern, but honestly, after that was revealed I just can’t 😂 like you cover the belt, buckle and the shoulders and no one will know that’s a green lantern lol I would put money on it
Mr. Terrific is like iron man but under maxwells control and superman convinces them to get rid of lord tech. Individualism vs corporate agendas. I totally agree
Think this movie will be lighthearted with great storytelling, which is needed in the superhero movie genre these days. I think the suits reflect the whimsy of this movie. Hope it's executed well.
Honestly, people keep criticizing this movie when it really doesn't deserve the amount of hate it's receiving. Sure, I may not be the biggest fan of some of the suit designs for Guy Gardner and Hot Girl, but I think they work in the context of this movie. I like the colors and I think they make sense for Guy Gardner's uniform to have his own logo on his chest instead of the Green Lantern logo, since he's part of that Corporation in this movie. That doesn't mean he won't change his uniform in the future, and the Green Lantern logo may appear on his chest later on. It's possible. I feel like this is going to be another situation like with Robert Pattinson's Batman, where the behind-the-scenes set photos didn't look good at all, but the suit ended up looking great in the movie and trailer. So, I refuse to judge the suits solely based on set photos until I see the special effects and CGI added in. That's where the suits will truly shine. As for the Superman suit in David Cronenberg's movie, I personally like the bright and vibrant colors. I'm a fan of the New 52 and Kingdom Come Superman, and this suit seems to be a combination of both. It's bright and hopeful, which fits the character's color scheme. I'm eagerly waiting for a trailer or for the movie to come out, where all the suits will have CGI and special effects added. That's when we'll see them in action and they'll look good. I still have faith in this movie and I believe it will do well. Have faith, everyone.
That trailer will make or break the film.
Yeah, that's very possible. I'm just doing my best to be optimistic about it. Because Superman is like my second-favorite superhero of all time. And I really hope for the best for this movie.
I love the suits I think people where wanting the characters to resemble their JL Animated counterparts where this is giving me heavy Comic Vibes
Suits never really mattered to me what was important for me was the actor and how they can show that they ARE these comic books heroes/villains having the suit look cool is just a bonus. We also have to remember this is just the beginning these characters might switch suits later on
The suits are uniform and also this is not the Hawkgirl from the animated series. She is different from the red haired Hawkgirl who usually accompanies Hawkman. You gotta see the suits in action. The white on Green Laterns suite will pop with the aura of the power ring. Hawkgirl needs her wings to really see it. Same with the Engineer who will probably be metallic on film. I don't even want to talk about Metamorpho with the blue guy stand in.
Guy Gardner in the 1990’s wore a black leather jacket with a “G” on the front in the Guy Gardner Comics.
My theory is in the movie Mr terrific, Green Lantern (Guy Gardner) and Hawkgirl have the lord tech suits and by the end Superman will have inspired them to have there own looks maybe at the end they build the hall of Justice and form the justice league
My theory for Guy Gardner’s hair being more blonde is that maybe he’s dyeing it or changing it some other way and it’ll end up more red headed later on
Hmm... a reverse Kingdom Come, hadn't thought of that. I mean Civil War is kind of Marvel's Kingdom Come and some theorized that this film might be similar to Captain America Civil War and BvS. The three comics that seem to be perhaps the biggest influences seem to be Kingdom Come (logo), New Frontier (perhaps villain in whole Gods and Monsters arc?), and All-Star Superman (perhaps themes?). If Superman Legacy is Kingdom Come in the reverse then would the Engineer be Gogg counterpart? And Ultraman be Luthor's Shazam counterpart? A Nuke going off is sort of the big thing in Kingdom Come (killing the majority of all meta humans), now Superman against Nukes didn't go that well for Quest for Peace so I don't know that's a sellable theme for a Superman film or not. I do love the JLI era of the comics and if Gunn can emulate that era of DC comics than that's pretty sweet. Another interesting what if story from the 90s was the nail, what the JLA would have looked like if Superman wasn't around, and it basically turned into the BOYS. Likewise, in Flashpoint, we learned that without Superman the Amazons and the Atlanteans would have started WWIII. So those are important themes to play with if presenting a world familiar with superheroes already and then introducing Supes to the mix.
characters evolve and so do their looks/ costumes
right
Would love to see Plastic Man In a film, But who the hell could you cast 🤔🤔
Ben Schwartz
Boba Hell Yeah!
Is it coincidence that the lord tech logo has a JL in it?
Corporate wars, with superheros. I like it.
Note to self - suits always change, in the same movie we might see changes, or in future movies. But one thing for sure? Suits always change
These suits are clearly a meta commentary on the OG X-Men leather suits. We're not SUPPOSED to love them. They exist to contrast Superman. Same with the Military heroes who all wear black etc. These suits are purposely generic in order to contrast the unique qualities of Superman.
I hate Guys, specifically because Guys ring creates his suit by default. This means in order to adjust it to look like everyone else Guy had to consciously choose to change his default suit which goes against Guys character
Guy gardner should of had reddish brown hair
I could see them tossing the corporate suits in the trash at the end of the movie, maybe after seeing Superman on the TV, leaving the door open for them to have comic accurate costumes next time they appear
Exactly.
Are they going to show us their real suit later at movie.
Quite possibly! (They will eventually in the DCU if not in the Superman movie itself)
Hi Boba, agree with your theory that the theme of this movie would be that Superman will inspire the other 'gods & monsters" to regain their individual identity. After all, I believe Gunn's original title was Superman LEGACY.
You guys are looking far too much into this movie , you want to know every single detail before it even comes out to the point where you won’t be excited to see it because you’ve already had everything revealed to you. It’s a movie , it’s not like the Bible is being rewritten, first people complain about Superman’s suit being too detailed with lines and the material , then you complain that you wish the other suits were a bit more complex , it’s the very first movie we all know that through the sequels and as these movies progress the suits will be updated.
I like them; they are taking the role of the Corparte suit douches. And the suits reflect that. I mean look at SUPERMAN he legit takes the time to talk w. the kiddos and the others just blow through the croud. I enjoy the setup.
guessing superman is going to break hero's from the coporate grip of corruption. Then maybe batman will step in then to finance the league.
I WASN'T MAD AT THEIR CLOTHES, BECAUSE IT IS THEIR COMPANY UNIFORM. I THINK THEY WILL GET THEIR REAL CLOTHES AT THE END OF THE MOVIE.
Is your caps lock broken or are you just desperate for attention?
Which would be a L…this movie has to be a KNOCKOUT! Those suits won’t get it done
@@MajorNuance NO IT NOT, BUT YOUR MOUTH IS. I AM NOT SEEKING FOR ATTENTION, BUT YOU ARE FOR COMING AT ME.
@@92kris YOU RIGHT!!
What if Maxwell Lorde is putting together, "The Justice Lords?" I get that it would be a bit narcissistic, but hell, why not?
Weather we get new comic accurate suits to replace the LordTech suits or not… one thing to remember is that I HIGHLY doubt any of them will be main JLA members we follow through the story of the DCU. We’ll probably only see Hawkgirl and Mr. Terrific a couple more times as cameos or in the final battle of a JLA movie. Then I doubt we’ll see Guy again until maybe the GL MAX show.
A lot of people do know the characters because of the old animated shows, so Hawkgirl for example is already more popular than the GOTG before that film came out. But regardless of us the fans. We’ll probably focus on the core JLA members.
People had a preconceived idea of what the characters should look like and are freaking out because they look different
Yeah… bcuz it’s a preconceived character
@@captain1jones354 bruh this like saying ppl had a preconceived notion of not eating shit and being upset at being fed shit 😂
@@wibblesmcscribbles3018 I can see that analogy is your passion 😂
@@claudiabcarvalho homophobia is showing
While I’m not head over heels for the hawkgirl and guy suit (I like the mask and mace, haircut) I do believe it is a purpose for them. As long as it explains and helps the movie move along it is alright with me
Ey. Here to complement the "Reverse kingdom come" theory.
'Cause as we've seen in the photos, I see superman working with the "Stagg team" I've come to compare it to Superman vs the elite or what's fun about truth justice and the American way.
Maybe in this world superman starts doing good stuff and the "stagg team" kinda recruits him before any other team can, and lex kinda moves the strings to make the team and maxwell hate superman, so they end up fighting until superman comes on top. "Creating a legacy for newcomers heroes"
I don’t think they’re going for godly costumes like let’s say Snyder was doing. This is a lot more superhero-like and grounded to out world
i like your balanced observations unlike the over reactionary responses from other channels.
When does wolverine and Deadpool join the team
Yo boba u need to look into the squirrel Green lantern that' there's pictures of Superman talking to
About the suit. We don't need everything to look as great the 1st time. It's happened in countless hero movies before. If the story is that good then for Gunn the suit might be in the least of his concerns or there could be a very good reason for the underwear. Everything is important but story telling is probably his main focus. Superman and the other characters assuming they will be alive can wear a different suit in future films. Its funny cause the underwear is old fashioned. So in a way it could be that the world sees him as old fashioned not just by the way he acts but by his appearance. I could see it work to differentiate him from the rest of the heroes. Just my humble theory/perspective.
Maybe because vigilantism is illegal sort of similar to what you were saying, most Heroes are either sanctioned by the Government like through Argus or funded by Maxwell Lord or Lex Luthor in sort of a Private Security kind of way, while maybe Heroes working alone like Superman, the Bat Family, Green Arrow if he exists, etc. are all seen as criminals? If that makes any sense
Well, if there’s one thing that this movie made me realize it’s that Ryan Reynolds suit isn’t really that bad and when you actually do some digging into the creation of the suit, you can realize that there’s actually a lot of time and effort put into it and they really thought about it the movie still shit but that suit gets too much hate especially when the second time around they want to pull up with this shit
Please look at the set photos of Deadpool, Avengers, and the Batman. The suits will change in post production.
And in those set photos, the design could be observed by my eyeballs and I liked them. It is possible to not be too keen on core design execution, even from a set photo.
@@BobaTalks I am just saying lets see what the suits look like in action. I remember the internet ripping Robert apart for his body type and Reeves suit design. He proved to be the best Batman ever in live action. At least in my opinion. I respect your view. I just want to see some action before I comment.
@@davidalexander-dhs-baltimo2708 I understand what you're saying, and I have no doubt that the sheen of the screen will obviously be better than set photos from a photographers camera. I just also think that people can form an opinion on the suits to an extent, if deciding whether they vibe with the design they went for. It's like how if you look at the Superman suit set photos, you absolutely can look at the design and be like 'I love that they have a large crest with the Kingdom Come symbol' or 'I don't like it that much, I wish they used a classical S for the design'. Exact same takes can be said here with the way they executed the LordTech uniform designs 🙂
@@BobaTalks I agree the classic Superman logo would be the best but then Gunn would basically be giving us an updated version of Christopher Reeves suit. I don't envy the suit design team. They are trying to create new takes on the heroes while having the original designs so fans will know who they are. Nathan's bowl cut is absolutely hilarious. They can't win either way. Keep up the good work. Your coverage of DC has been outstanding and you are a joy to listen too working my overnight shift. 😁😄😃😆
Did mr terrific recruit hawk and lantern with Maxwell lord funding? Is he like the tony stark of dc
More like the Justin hammer.
That's Max Lord
James Gunn better not be stupid & use Justice League International. Since The DCU is a place where the heroes are already established, he need's to do a team movie simply called The Justice League. After the actual team has been formed, eventually the founding members of The League personally go around the world recruiting all the other heroes & occasionally anti-heroes, ultimately setting up The Justice League Unlimited.
Here is the deal, the movie hasn’t even hit yet. We all should hope that the story and the acting are on point vs subjective opinions about how things look or not look.
You’re right Boba the heroes in this moment are doing what needs to be done, which costs money. By the 2nd movie, I think we’ll have a traditional JL/JLU situation where Batman is introduced, and Bruce Wayne's unlimited resources are used to fund everyone’s activities.
I think this is exactly what James Gunn wants. I do not think for one second that these suits are the only ones we will see. Criticise Gunn all you like but hard core comic experts are working on this film and these cheesy suits are in my opinion, a build up to more. As iconic as Guy Gardner and Hawkgirl are, there has to be a good reason why they look this way at this stage. From a storytelling point of view, if this is so, it makes good sense. Perhaps Hawkgirl and Guy Gardner ditch Lods sponsorship and we will get them in their comic book glory. For me, it's clear that there is so much more to this story than what set pics reveal. Given we know jack about the story, I will sit back and enjoy what we see and allow these guys to do their work.
I think Kendra, Guy and Mr Terrific will be the Terrifics in this movie but are sponsored by Lordtech. I don't believe this is the final Terrifics team though. I am starting to believe that Metamorpho has a bigger role in the Lex Luthor big bad plot. If that's the case Metamorpho could be manipulated or mind controlled somehow. I can see at the conclusion of the movie Mr Terrific takes him under his wing and he then becomes part of the team.
Hopefully we get a Mr Terrifics movie or series that eventually adds Plasticman and Phantom Girl.
All I see in the logo is JL (justice league)