I have prayed for you. Father, I lift up, "cared for", you know who they are, and ask You, Almighty God, to show them your glory, the glory that You reveal to those who share in the fellowship if the sufferings of Your Son and or Savior, Jesus Christ. Father, I ask that You would open the heart and give him/ her insight into the value of remaining faithful in the midst of thier suffering. Sometimes, Lord, we just don't understand, but it's all for Your glory. Our faith is perfected through suffering. So I ask, You, Father to comfort those of us that suffer. Keep us faithful, Lord, and fill our hearts with the same love and devotion to You that Christ displayed as He hung on the cross. Father, I humbly pray this in Jesus's Holy Name. Amen
Listened to this over 4xs. I needed to hear this sermon. chronic back pain has destroyed my life for 25 yrs (I’m only 39). Along with my emotional & spiritual health. I lost hope a long time ago. But I’ve always believed God is there with me “taking care of me”. I loved God but not enough… this sermon helped me see my suffering in a different light. A positive light . Thank you for this!
@@donovan7177 I'm happy my experience & words have helped another. dealing with any chronic illness or situation can drive a person mad & lonely. sometimes it even feels like God isnt enough or he's abandoned you....truth He is always there. He just believes in your strength. God showed me to take my bad days hour to hour second to second & moment to moment. because it will be ok, Hope that helped
I suffer on a daily basis with chronic pain. My only hope is to continue worshipping and trusting in God. Just because I am in pain, it doesn't negate the truth that God is good.
I have a chronic debilitating neck, shoulder and rotator pain. Been praying for so long without any deliverance but one thing for sure is nothing I go through will diminish my love for my Lord and Savior. I pray that Jehovah Rapha will heal everyone from whatever issues they are suffering with in the mighty name of Lord Jesus Christ. Amen
I've had debilitating pain since I was 29. It all really started around the time I got out of the Marines. It makes life EXTREMELY HARD. I want a glorified body and to be with our Lord and my family. I TRULY would love to live a normal life. I'm 41 now and I fear what I will be going through here in 10 years. I hope God hears my prayers in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen
Brother, I'm going to be 62 in just 2 days. I suffer every day, but I promise you that the Lord hears each and every prayer you send up. Let me share with you what happened just 1 week ago. I have 3 girls, one married, and we had been gifted 5 box seats at the Denver Nuggets game. I woke up that morning, and I was in terrible terrible pain. I was in so much pain that I was litterally in tears, but the greatest pain was the thought of not being able to spend this time with my girls... I was devastated, to say the least. My wife, the girls, and I were praying that I would get the relief that I needed to make it to the game. I was praying all day. Needless to say, when it came time to go, I was able to walk, we went to the game, and it was such a blessing to have this moment with my girls. Although the Lord allows me to go through the pain, I absolutely know that He loves me, He owes me nothing, yet He gives me everything. Brother, I have lifted you up in prayer, not that you might be healed, but that you may know Him in your suffering just as He knew you in His suffering. I want you to know that we suffer for a greater good that I cannot explain. We share in the fellowship of His suffering, and all I can say is, when you let go of the bitterness and the woe is me, why is this happening to me attitude, you will find a joy in your suffering that is hard to explain. I love the Lord more in my suffering than I ever did in my healthy days, and I wouldn't trade my suffering and the love that I have, right now, for Him, for a pain free life... it's just hard to explain, but it is what it is, and I love Him all the more for it. God bless you, my brother.
@@michaelpack7591 I wouldn't really say I have a why is this happening to me attitude. This just started when I was 28 and I don't plan on having children now because I couldn't be the father I wanted. It totally uprooted any plans I had for myself and any kind of a future. I more try to look at it as maybe this was what it was gonna take to get me to turn to the Lord. Because in my younger days if I wasn't going through this I don't know if I EVER would have. That's how I'm trying to approach this. This may have been necessary for my salvation.
@@krismyers3995 You know what? I NEVER thought I would be a dad. In fact, I wasn't until I was 45 years old. I spent more time in jail and prison in my first 30 years than I did on the streets. I was a drug addict, and a rotten SOB, and my wife was also a drug addict, but the Lord pulled us out together. I haven't lived a perfect life, but if I had it to do all over again, I guess that I wouldn't change a thing. I'm about 60% bed bound, and I wish that I could be more of a dad to my girls than I already am, but none of this negates the fact that the Lord brought me around to where I am today. Please, don't think that I was saying that you have a, "why me" attitude. I don't know you, so that's not for me to say. However, I do think that it's easy to get into that mode, so I pray for your protection. One more thing, I pray that you have a very very merry Christmas. God bless you, brother!
@@michaelpack7591how was you able to be happy through it all? Im going through something similar, I'm just 23 year old female, i feel left out and lonely at times i have to stay on tasteless liquid diet for atleast an year, lost all my friends, my bf broke up with me as i wanted to get closer to God but he didn't want that, i still live with my parents and it feels like nobody understand me at times, how to take all this positively..?
Sitting here with tears running down my face. I have have suffered greatly with fibromyalgia for the past 7 years to the point where i am mostly bed bound now. I can barely make it through the day and i have kids i need to homeschool. I try and do my best even though we are so far behind. I feel so much guilt for it. My house is a complete filthy mess because am never able to clean it up to standard. My kids have to most of the work. Which is washing, washing dishes and washing the floors and other small tasks. I try and do the cooking and what i can when i dont feel sick. Its tough living like this and sometimes I do think how can this possibly be of any value in this life?? But this message has benefitted me so much and spkoe straight to my heart. I was having a bad day and this popped up and I just knew God sent it to me. Thank you Lord.
I know this is an old comment but I wanted to share my experience with fibromyalgia. I’ve taken lyrica and tramadol for the last 5 years and it has been a life changer for me. I recommend asking a doctor to prescribe it, just be careful with tramadol, it needs to be monitored at all times because it can become addictive and cause other side effects. That being said, I can’t function without it and I’m hoping I never have to stop taking it or find something else that works. Never give up and try finding what works for you too. Blessings
Hi,Thank you so much for your reply. I live in Vietnam so im not sure if they will have that medicine this side. Just wondering if its for pain or fatique. I am mostly bed bound because of the severe fatigue i have right now. I have pain aswell but its bearable. Its just the fatique getting me down now. @@melchaparro3443
@lavanda_school_of_life Hi there. Thank you for your reply. Thats very kind of you. Im so sorry to hear about your situation. My mom actaully had a brain tumor and had to have that removed twice but after the second operation she was never okay and died soon after. So i kind of get what that entails so for you to go through so much i feel so sorry for you!!! I know this is tough but i have learned to keep seeking God in my pain and he gives me understanding of why we go through this and what He wants to accomplish in us. But I get you its tough to understand sometimes and i have felt like you before many many times because Im also constantly going through sicknesses. For me when one sickness stops its the next. I just had to go to hospital last week because I was getting the worst pains in my lungs and the week before that i threw my back out. Im only 37 but i feel 80🤣🤣🤣. I hope you have some family around you that can help or are you part of a church so they can help?? And im so sorry for all the things that you have suffered by other people. Please hang in there and know that God loves us even though we go through this. Keep seeking Him and soon we will be set free.
@@zowiewowie4458 I have nerve damage as well. I've had over 30 surgeries and I'm permanently damaged. I've been this way over a decade. All I can tell you is just because your body is damaged doesn't mean you can't improve your mind. Learn how to enjoy reading and learning. Also get a good pain doctor....don't stop searching for one you like. Most pain doctors suck. Don't be hard on yourself. Push yourself for an hour or two a day so you can get the essentials done then give your body a rest. Don't GAF what others think, they don't endure your pain and have no clue how badly you suffer. Eat as best you can...try to cut out all GMO and non organic foods....it makes a big difference.
Sometimes the pain is so severe that the manner in which we glorify God is to simply endure the pain while clinging to Christ till our last breath. I suffer from chronic sinusitis - and it makes my life absolutely miserable. There are some days where I can barely get out of bed. Nevertheless, Christ is my hope. The measure of our endurance and faithfulness to Christ in this life will surely be compensated by God Himself in eternity. I’m convinced that those with the most treasure in heaven are the people who suffered greatly and never lost their faith in Christ.
I’m so sorry someone told you this. Gods plan is NOT for you to have sickness! Jesus died on the cross for our sins and our total healing! Believe you have already received through faith and command the sickness to leave your body in Jesus name!
You know what Alfonso, you're absolutely right. I suffer from chronic pain from 3 different types of arthritis and I've had 15 different surgeries because of it, and I have to say, I've never been closer to Almighty God. Anyone that says that suffering is not a part of God's plan simply hasn't read thier bibles. In fact, there's a special crown that we receive for holding fast to the Lord. There will be a day when we will never suffer again, but that's not going to happen this side of life. Hold fast to the confession of your faith my friend, and know that Jesus Christ suffered in the flesh as well, therefore He identifies with us in our suffering. Blessings to you, my friend.
*I have so much pain frequent thoughts of giving up, I can't take the pain. Recent failed back surgery, cervical and SI surgery's needed. I pray Jesus takes my pets and I home. My whole spine is messed up and no pain help. I understand why people take their lives, the pain is too great. God have mercy on us.*
So sorry to hear what you’re going through just started in August to have severe pain in my back Osteo arthritis, and of the feet agonizing every day. No relief until I sleep. I hope God‘s work helps you some. I go to bed with the scriptures because it’s too much, God bless you
I too understand the suicide option. I've been in chronic pain for 21 years. I think if God didn't provide help from my parents I would have to commit suicide. I'm incapable of making an income and have no more friends.
Same here. I have debilitating migraines 24/7 for 7 years now and I sometimes wonder why God wouldn’t want us physically healthy enough to study his word, witness to others, etc. Unless our pain and faith will be enough. I can only listen to the word but it’s hard to concentrate. If this suffering produces glory to him and saves us it will be worth it. I feel like sometimes the pain is literal torture
Thank you, Pastor. I too have debilitating pain. All of my connective soft tissue is in a constant state of deterioration, and after enduring 11 surgeries, I am about to go in for my 12th surgery where I have to have 4 more of my vertebrae in my neck fused. I struggle with pain every minute of every day, but I know that my Redeemer lives. The pain has made me let loose of my hold on this world and embrace the hope of glory. I hate the pain, but I love the Lord. I do not blame the Lord for the pain, I praise Him for being with ne through the pain. I love you, Pastor. Thank you...
I know exactly how you feel Michael. I am going in a couple weeks to have discs removed from my neck vertebra because I also have shooting nerve pain from my spine almost every waking minute keeping me bedridden. I know just how you feel and how hard it is to endure this.
I hear you...going through crazy pain severe for decades, homebound last 10. Upside has me acknowledging the Lord more clearly, day by day. I hope this finds you doing better.🙏✨
I suffer from rheumatoid arthritis and the pain is unbearable. Please heal me Lord. Why did you send me these 3 daughters if you knew this would be my life. Pray for me. Thank you.
I’m praying for you. I just want my body to function well enough so I can work to take care of my family and play with my kids. It’s not like I’m out here on the streets needing a healthy body to do evil. Im beginning to hate life
This is a hard one to swallow, considering the fact that I have Neurofibromastosis, and fibromyalgia. I hurt everyday. My life is already miserable because I lost my job a year ago, and dealing with this pain has made it worse. I will try to have a better attitude after hearing what I just heard but, I’m ready for it to all end.
I'm so sorry that you're going through this. I do wish God will heal you in His time. I have a video that might help for your condition since I too suffer with some health issues so I use this channel czcams.com/video/1gFFm0lXSAg/video.html
If you have not overcome sin and sickness in your life then you are a deceived believer who does not understand the blessing that Jesus provided for you. Most believers do not understand that sickness comes from sin and the devil and they possess sickness in their life since they are sinners who are deceived in their beliefs. So if you currently have an affliction or you are someone who can get sick then you clearly are living in sin and you certainly are not a Christian. You may foolishly believe otherwise but your sin and your sickness is definitely proving that you are a deceived believer who lacks knowledge of scripture since you did not understand the blessing that Jesus provided for you and you did not learn how to overcome your sin and your sicknesses. I am a sanctified disciple of Jesus Christ who can no longer sin nor can I ever get sick and Jesus has given me wisdom about scripture that very very few will ever possess. Realize that there is not even one scripture where God ever stated that a person who possesses sin and sickness in their life is His child so if you can still sin and you can still get sick then you definitely are not a child of God. Scripture clearly relates that if you do sin then you are of the devil and if you have afflictions then you are a sinner who does not know God. “He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.” I John 3:8 NKJV Very few believers truly understand scripture and this is why only a remnant will be saved since most believers are completely deceived in their beliefs and they will perish in their sin and their ignorance of truth. Most do not even understand the difference between a Believer, a Disciple, a Christian and a Apostle and so I will now explain. “Isaiah also cries out concerning Israel: “Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, The remnant will be saved.” Romans 9:27 NKJV We are all born in sin and in ignorance of God’s word and truth. When you first repent of your sins and you accept Jesus into your life you are now a believer but you are still deceived and ignorant about scripture since you have never been sanctified in truth by the Holy Spirit. This is why a believer will still possesses sin and sickness in their life since they still lack knowledge in the word of God. Once a believer accepts Jesus into their life they were then commanded to surrender their will to the Holy Spirit so the Spirt could now teach them how to stop sinning. This purification process is called sanctification and it can only be achieved by understanding how to test the Spirits as commanded in 1 John 4. Sanctification takes years and it requires our faith, patience, suffering and endurance since the Holy Spirit teaches us how to overcome our sins. Once we learn how to overcome our sins we now have overcome our sicknesses since afflictions come from sin and the devil. Sadly the vast majority of believers never allow this process to occur since they are deceived in their beliefs and so they remain in their sin and their ignorance their entire lives. Others will actually fall away during the sanctification process just as Judas certainly did and Jesus relates these various believers in the parable of the sower in Luke 8:11-15. Not many believers actually make it through God’s sanctification process and this is why it is referred to as the narrow gate. “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.” Matthew 7:13-14 NKJV If a believer does surrender their will to God’s purification process they now become a disciple since they are now learning scripture directly from Jesus Himself. Jesus will now teach His disciple how to live just as He did since He now dwells inside His true children. A disciple means “a student who learns from his teacher.” This is why scripture relates that Jesus is our one and only teacher and this is also why the vast majority of religions and preachers are nothing more then false prophets who are only leading believers astray. It is during the sanctification process that the Holy Spirit teaches us how to live holy and righteously just as God commanded and He does this by showing us how to overcome our sins. Sanctification is kind of similar to what Jesus endured in the wilderness for 40 days since the Spirit has us confront the devil’s temptations head on. If you end up completing God’s purification process you are now a Christian who is sanctified in truth and you are a disciple of Jesus Christ who can no longer sin. This is when you are actually born again since a child born of God is someone who lives “exactly like Christ” and they do not sin. This is how the term Christian came about since the original disciples lived exactly like Christ. Most overlook how Jesus had to train his twelve chosen disciples for three years before they could become His apostles. An apostle means someone who is sent, a messenger. Many overlook the prayer that Jesus made for His disciples in John 17:6-19 where He asked His Father to sanctify His disciples in truth. So the disciples had to be sanctified in truth before Jesus could use them as His apostles, His messengers. So an apostle is someone who is a messenger from God and they possess the power of God to prove their anointment. Realize that God did not instruct us or command us to explain scripture to anyone but yet most are foolishly believing that it is their duty to try and lead others to Jesus. Many deceived believers do not understand that the Great Commission was for God’s chosen disciples who were trained by Jesus and who were sanctified in God’s truth. It was not meant for every believer of Jesus Christ to teach and that is simply a lie that is being fabricated by the devil’s many false ministers. So you might now begin to understand why the majority of believers are nothing more then children of the devil since they are ignorantly blaspheming the Spirit of truth when they willingly relate their misguided beliefs. These ignorant souls are simply spreading lies and condemning themselves since they were never taught scripture by Jesus nor where they sanctified in God’s truth. “It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.” John 6:45 NKJV ”My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment. For we all stumble in many things. If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body.” James 3:1-2 NKJV Many believers are ignorantly believing that Jesus came to forgive our past, present and future sins. This spoken untruth is having people believe that they can continue in a life of sin and then simply repent and God will forgive them over and over. This is why many believe that if they repent just before they die then Jesus will save their sinful soul. This twisted reasoning would mean that you can continue to steal and then simply repent. You can then lie and then repent. You can then murder and simply repent. You can keep committing whatever sin you desire and simply repent afterwards and you will always be forgiven. This is simply nonsense that is fabricated by the devil to make you believe that you will always sin. “Jesus answered and said to them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.” Luke 5:31-32 NKJV Jesus did not come to call on the righteous since a righteous person does not sin. Jesus came to call sinners to repentance which meant for sinners to stop sinning entirely and to start living holy and righteously just as God commanded. Jesus came to forgive us of the sins that we have already committed and this occurs at the moment that we repent of our sins and we accept Jesus and His Holy Spirit into our life. We must then submit to God’s purification process and allow the Holy Spirit to sanctify our heart in God’s truth so that we could overcome the sin and the sicknesses that we possess in our lives. Once again this can only be achieved by understanding how to test the Spirits as commanded in 1 John 4. So a Christian is someone who is sanctified in truth and they can easily discern a true Christian from a deceived believer in seconds since they now possess the mind of Christ and they are able to judge all things. They can no longer sin nor can they ever get sick since they are now born of God and the devil can no longer touch them with his afflictions. I have overcome sin and sickness in my own life and this is why God has me relating His blessings in my writings and in my videos. “These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. For “who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.” I Corinthians 2:13-16 NKJV “We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.” I John 5:18 NKJV
There is no sickness with God and there is no sickness for the true children of God since a child of God can no longer sin. Sin and sickness is strictly of the devil and you will only find sin and sickness in unbelievers and deceived believers since they are children of the devil who do not either understand or they do not believe what scripture is relating. The children of the devil often try to use 1 John 1:8-1O or Romans 3:10, 3:23 and 7 in order to try and justify the sin that they possess in their wicked life. When they do they clearly prove that they have no idea what these scripture are relating or what they even mean. First in Romans 7 Paul is simply relating how he was a sinner until He was freed by knowing Christ and these deceived souls clearly overlooked how Paul related that he had died to sin and was no longer a slave to sin in Romans 6. The other scriptures are simply relating that everyone is born in sin and ignorance and so this is why mankind falls short of the glory of God since they are not living righteously. These scriptures are relating that this is why we need to repent and confess our sins to God so that He will then forgive us. They also relate that anyone who believes that they have never sinned is then calling God a liar. But nowhere are any of these scriptures ever stating that a believer will always sin as the children of the devil desire to believe. Anyone who tries to use these scripture in order to justify the sin that they possess in their life proves that they are a deceived believer who is a sinner and they belong to the devil. “He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.” I John 3:8 NKJV There is not one scripture that ever states that a child of God will sin or will have sickness in their life. There is not one scripture that ever states that a believer will always sin or can never stop sinning. There is not one scripture that ever states that a Christian who is a child of God will possess sickness in their life or states that sickness is a normal part of this life. Scripture clearly relates that if you truly follow God and you are His child then you cannot sin and this is why God will not allow the devil to touch you with sickness and disease since God will remove them from your life. “Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.” I John 3:9 NKJV “We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.” I John 5:18 NKJV “So you shall serve the LORD your God, and He will bless your bread and your water. And I will take sickness away from the midst of you. No one shall suffer miscarriage or be barren in your land; I will fulfill the number of your days.” Exodus 23:25-26 NKJV “And said, “If you diligently heed the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in His sight, give ear to His commandments and keep all His statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you which I have brought on the Egyptians. For I am the LORD who heals you.” Exodus 15:26 NKJV “And the LORD will take away from you all sickness, and will afflict you with none of the terrible diseases of Egypt which you have known, but will lay them on all those who hate you.” Deuteronomy 7:15 NKJV Scripture also relates that it is your sin that is allowing sickness to enter your life. “But the one who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, a multitude being in that place. Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.” John 5:13-14 NKJV Psalm 107:17. “Fools, because of their transgression, And because of their iniquities, were afflicted.” Know what this means? First transgression, it means an act that goes against a rule, a law or a code of conduct. Next iniquity, it means a wicked act or thing, sin. Finally, affliction, it means something that causes persistent pain or suffering. Translated it is saying that you are a fool if you do not follow God’s laws and commands and you go and sin because you will then have pain, suffering and sickness. So all of this proves that the children of the devil will certainly try to twist scripture in order to justify the sin and the sicknesses that they possess in their life because they do not want to admit that they are deceived in their beliefs and they are not children of God. To try and justify their afflictions some will claim that Paul’s thorn in the flesh was a sickness. For some reason many of these fools desire to believe that Paul possessed sickness and had bad eyesight. Acts 19 and 28 relates how Paul was able to remove the sickness from everyone who came to him so what could possibly make these deceived believers think that he was someone who had sickness in his life? Couldn’t Paul just remove the sickness from himself as he did with those who came to him for healing? Plus if Paul was bitten by a venomous snake and yet it did him no harm how could anyone possibly believe that Paul was someone who could then get sick himself? These sinners also try to claim that the apostles were sinners themselves. Now did the apostles live in sin at some time in their life? They most definitely did since everyone is born in sin and in ignorance of truth. But the apostles were believers who allowed Jesus to sanctify their heart in God’s truth and they learned how to overcome their sins. This is why God then used them as His messengers and He gave them His power to heal. Read John 17:6-19 where Jesus prayed for their sanctification. Many others try to manipulate what John 9:3, 1 Timothy 5:23, Galatians 4:13 and Philippians 2:26 are relating in order to explain the sicknesses they possess in their sinful lives. Some will even try and use Job and others from the Old Covenant to justify their sicknesses. When these deceived believers try to use anyone from the Old Covenant they certainly reveal their complete ignorance of scripture. Scripture relates that Job was a righteous man but what they clearly overlook is that we are all born in sin and ignorance and this included Job. Even though Job lived righteously he still possessed sin since there was no forgiveness of sins under the Old Covenant since Jesus had not arrived yet. Lastly, some will simply claim that sin has nothing to do with sickness and they deny the very words spoken by Jesus Himself. “But the one who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, a multitude being in that place. Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.” John 5:13-14 NKJV So if you are a believer who can still sin or who can still get sick then you do not know Jesus at all and you certainly do not understand scripture or the blessing that Jesus provided for all of mankind. You are simply a deceived believer who is a child of Lucifer since you have clearly fallen for the devil’s lies in regards to scripture and what it is relating.
Of course it’s hard to swallow! It’s not biblical!! Listen to your spirit telling you that. Romans 8, James 1. Suffering can be used by God to test our faith and grow us, but he’s not glorified in it?!?! We have our future glory to look forward to and the whole world groans for redemption waiting for it. The fall is the cause for all suffering, but John Piper teaches God is. Not biblical at all. Go to the scriptures, get away from these terrible philosophical teachings. God bless you, I’ll pray for healing for you. God is with you
I was run over by a forklift I'm in Chronic pain and suffer from depression . I realize today if we knew the power of suffering and the reward from it not in this world but in the next .We wouldn't complain ! but it's not easy at all .I do offer my pain to Christ alot .That's all we can do .
Thomas, because we live in the here and now, sometimes it's hard to look past our pain and suffering. I thank our wonderful God and Savior that the Holy Spirit enables us to look forward, past the pain, and He gives us the hope of eternal glory that awaits us in Christ Jesus, our Lord. Those of us that suffer are given a gift that many don't understand and rewards that follow.
My friend suffers daily from a chronic illness. The feeling is like someone is constantly stabbing her with a knife. She can't afford treatment that could save her life she can barely walk sometimes. She gave her life to God and helped so many women and men. 20 years of extreme suffering. Why didn't God provide for her needs to have enough finances to get treatment. When you seek His righteousness and His Kingdom he provides all our needs? She has been begging God for healing from this chronic illness and pain and the illness is attacking her more and her suffering is worse. And there are people who don't care about God and are sinners that are healthy and living their best life. Life is so unfair. And it hurts me to know I can't help my friend get better. For her to never feel pain again as she is in pain daily. I don't get God. God heals and yet I don't see her being healed after years of her begging and crying for God to take away her suffering
Hey my lil sis is bi polar and she is on fire for jesus hes the awnswer he may not heal u in this life but he will carry you and always will, i have eupd and fibromyalgia its really hard but he will never fail us x he loves you x
How can we glorify God and be able to worship and be good people to others if we’re suffering so much we can hardly think straight. I have a very hard time understanding this. Suffering can lead to depression.
What does a blade of grass know compared to a man and times that beyond any number you could imagine and you can maybe speak to the lower Angel. Stop the ego and love thy Lord
I understand I have been through and asked the same thing a thousand times. "Lord, how can I serve you and give you glory when I'm so sick I can't even function? Or think straight?" Then I remembered the scripture that says "The Joy of the Lord is my Strength". I then told God that there's nothing I can to in my power to fix this suffering but I ask for your Joy to keep me going. Now I am much more peaceful and happy because he gave me his Joy. I am still suffering but I now have hope that eventually I will be free from it. And a peace to get me through it. I was literally at the edge. I was going to give up on my life and was feeling like ending it all.
I have nerve damage in my neck and back from childhood abuse; God let’s me rest and listen to your sermons and my body pain ceases for most of the day. God allows the suffering, but I’m given more rest and comfort. Praise be to the almighty Father. All glory.
I woke up one day in 1996 & my lower back hurt so bad I couldn't get out of bed for a week. Each year the pain continued to spread. Now I am bedridden. The pain is so horrible I pray everyday God will heal me & lessen my pain. 16 prescriptions, ice packs, lidocaine patches, etc. Everyday we try everything. I know my Heavenly Father loves me, hears all my prayers & answers all my prayers. My God is my maker & whatever decision He makes is right, true, holy, and correct. I bow to His decisions. I bow to whatever He decides because He is ALWAYS right!! Whether I am in pain or not in pain... my Creator is always right! I love you Father God & trust in you because you made me and love me! Jesus please come soon and tell me what I can do for you to tell about the good news of your glory!
This sermon could only be written by someone who has not been subjected to unrelieved pain. I do not wish pain on anything. I do wish you would gain sympathy and mercy for those who do.
I live with chronic pain disorders. No matter what I do to minimize it nothing works. Seems like all the evil people who are destroying other peoples lives are living their great lives. And the people who are living in chronic pain are loosing time with their families and loosing their security. And eventually they are out on the streets defending their lives and praying to god that they don’t starve to death or possibly loose their lives. Which eventually leads to drug and alcohol abuse. While the people who are living the free life rather laugh and spit in the faces of the ones who suffer.
David also witnessed the same thing. It makes no sense until you see the eternal perspective. Psalm 73: 1 Surely God is good to Israel, to those who are pure in heart. 2 But as for me, my feet had almost slipped; I had nearly lost my foothold. 3 For I envied the arrogant when I saw the prosperity of the wicked. 4 They have no struggles; their bodies are healthy and strong. 5 They are free from common human burdens; they are not plagued by human ills. 6 Therefore pride is their necklace; they clothe themselves with violence. 7 From their callous hearts comes iniquity; their evil imaginations have no limits. 8 They scoff, and speak with malice; with arrogance they threaten oppression. 9 Their mouths lay claim to heaven, and their tongues take possession of the earth. 10 Therefore their people turn to them and drink up waters in abundance. 11 They say, “How would God know? Does the Most High know anything?” 12 This is what the wicked are like- always free of care, they go on amassing wealth. 13 Surely in vain I have kept my heart pure and have washed my hands in innocence. 14 All day long I have been afflicted, and every morning brings new punishments. 15 If I had spoken out like that, I would have betrayed your children. 16 When I tried to understand all this, it troubled me deeply 17 till I entered the sanctuary of God; then I understood their final destiny. 18 Surely you place them on slippery ground; you cast them down to ruin. 19 How suddenly are they destroyed, completely swept away by terrors! 20 They are like a dream when one awakes; when you arise, Lord, you will despise them as fantasies. 21 When my heart was grieved and my spirit embittered, 22 I was senseless and ignorant; I was a brute beast before you. 23 Yet I am always with you; you hold me by my right hand. 24 You guide me with your counsel, and afterward you will take me into glory. 25 Whom have I in heaven but you? And earth has nothing I desire besides you. 26 My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. 27 Those who are far from you will perish; you destroy all who are unfaithful to you. 28 But as for me, it is good to be near God. I have made the Sovereign Lord my refuge; I will tell of all your deeds.
so sorry for all suffering, I know excruciating paie, soul, body, mind....it's makes me surrender all to Christ Jesus, we will only know in part.... He is our Vine, our sauce of life, even to make it through pain, persecution etc we bring it all to Jesus, who carries our burdans daily...
I realize something: I no nothing of sharp, chronic pain. It is easy to write these things, say them to others in pain. I think we learn something far different when suffering such pain.
One time when I was in high school, there was a girl who was pretty, but she had eczema on her hands. I clearly recall thinking in my head, " Thank God I don't have that. " A few years later, guess what happened? What I learned: God does hear your thoughts . I suffer chronic pain now, in addition to eczema. I never pretend to understand what pain someone else is in. Or expect others to understand mine. I thank God for the moments of relief. He is Loving and tender, no matter how I feel. I usually play the reading of the Psalms when suffering.
I have had four back surgeries and have suffered horrible debilitating pain. I am now doing better than I was due to finding a medicine that is very strong, but I get some relief. It took a long time to get to that point. I think the only one who can really answer this question is those who have been there and gotten past it or have learned to live with it. It is too easy for someone to say "This is God's will for your life," when they are not in pain themselves. I agree and disagree with this video. Chronic pain changes your thinking and changes everything about you even if you are the most devout Christian on this earth. With that said, I believe if you keep praying and asking God for help, he will eventually help you. It might take years of suffering before a solution is given, but don't give up. I have to exercise 5 to 6 times per week or I get where I can't move and become more crippled and my pain increases. Don't give up is my answer, but don't live with it either because that is not living. That is my answer. Disagree if you want to, but since I have lived it and still live it I am able to answer that question more than someone who is a preacher but does not live in pain on a daily basis. I still live in some pain every day, but it is enough where I have hope for a better life! God bless!
Glad you were able to get meds needed... I have been home bound from pain/sickness for decades. No drug issues yet, no strong meds since opiate crisis. Any tips?! Wishing you the best🙏
@@EC-yd9yv What is your particular medical problem? How long have you had it? What do you take or do to help alleviate your pain? I could offer a lot of tips, but it would be good knowing a little bit about your particular situation first. Prayers!!!
@@lindavangalder879 hi. Just seeing this. I have many spine issues, failed neck fusion, spondylitis, spondylosis the list goes on , fibromyalgia, severe fatigue fractured tailbone chronic pulsating headaches since the failed fusion surgery.. I hop this finds you doing better 🙏✨
I'm sorry , listening to that man about chronic pain , walk a mile in my shoes with a syatic nerve pain down one leg you can't hardly put any weight on it at all & it stops you in your tracks & you have to rest where your at for about ten mins till it settles down before you can walk again , or wake up feeling like 2 toes are on fire !!! Then talk to me about pain.. have a nice day folks, God bless..
@@johnpiper273 You have no fear of God my friend. You not only impersonate, you do it with the name of God. Identity theft is a crime. And more so, a sin before God. Repent.
This is easier said than done. Life shouldn't be like this. We didn't ask to be here, to be created to come forth into this world. God put us here knowing very well what would happen but we ad humans are to blame. We will never win
Worship and obedience offered in the midst of pain and loss is a mighty testimony and of great worth in God's eyes. Jesus knew that he had to suffer. Yet he still asked for a different cup to the one he received, and still he obeyed.
Thank you so much for this! I have been suffering from chronic back and knee pain for going on 6 years now. I don't even remember what it feels like to not be in pain. Despite losing 50lbs (I have 100 more to go) and working on getting healthier and stronger, the reduction in my pain has been minimal. I am grateful that most days it is manageable. Most importantly, I refuse to blame God or forsake my faith. This response is so encouraging to me.
@@shakedydogshake it's even harder to deal with now. My husband died last month. I moved from our home in TX (the last 4.5 years) to live with my parents in CA.
I have no chronic pain, but I have such a negative, pessimistic, and depressing view of life. All it is is loneliness, suffering, and all-around awful. Light an momentary affliction doesn't begin to cover it. I honestly find it difficult to want to go on living. If all I have to look forward to is pain, although I may not experience it now, I know I will experience it in the future. This makes me contemplate the love of God a lot, yes the Bible said Jesus died for us and that he loves us, but that l9ve hardly ever makes itself evident in our individual lives. How are we to have hope when all we do is suffer, God are we to glorify God when all the Christian walk produces is weakness, pain, and constant expectation looming over you like an atom bomb.
These circumstances bring Job's story to mind. Satan sought to prove Job's faith as shallow, that if God's loving protection and blessings were removed, Job would curse God, even to His face. Yet in all his suffering, though Job lamented of even being born, he did not curse God and thereby God was vindicated and glorified. In our suffering we can glorify God by doing as Job did and saying "though He slay me, yet will I trust in Him". I hope and pray for such faith.
"In our suffering we can glorify God by doing as Job did and saying "though He slay me, yet will I trust in Him". I hope and pray for such faith." Yes Nickolas, Father give us the Faith of Job to continue to trust you in what you have told us are light and temporary afflictions here.🙏 I Love the Chuck Missler quote. "God is going to ask you the same question every day, do you trust Him"? Bless you dear one and standing with you.
I’m starting to feel the same way. I suffer from debilitating chronic pain that barely allows me to do my own personal basic necessities. I live alone and have no family around. I’ve always had faith in God and believe in Jesus Christ as my lord and savior but I feel that the closer I try getting to God the worst my physical pain becomes. I’m becoming bitter and angry and losing my faith. Starting to feel like all this faith stuff is a joke and makes no sense. I hate to even have to write this but I’m so upset 😭
It’s all a bunch of nonsense because people need an answer to justify all this, otherwise they will realize it’s all in vain and their psyche can’t handle it. It’s one big comforting circle jerk, but I know better. The world is absurd, and if I kill myself because I’m sick of all this crap, then so be it
Thank you so much for this clear and powerful explanation. In addition to severe bouts of arthritis/joint pain and eye inflammation, I suffer from idiopathic small fiber polyneuropathy, from head to toe, which adversely affects my quality of life and challenges my faith. I sought out biblical answers to clarify why I suffer this painful, debilitating condition without any identifiable cause or affective relief in sight. Who knows why I've also suffered various physical and emotional traumas/insults since childhood?! I wanted to know if this was punishment for something, for previous sins and/or some unrecognized and unrepentant sin(s) perhaps. The story of Job always encourages me that often God chooses servants to suffer in a way that proves the unwavering faithfulness of His children. Yet there are temptations to blame oneself and/or wallow in self pity, especially when we feel no one cares and there's no benefit. This episode affirms that God not only knows and cares about our pain - whatever they may be - but He uses it to strengthen our reliance and trust in Him to His glory. Indeed, when we are faithful to God despite our suffering, we declare to the world that no matter what, we love the Lord. I pray for healing and comfort for each of you. God bless you.
That woman is deceived and she knows nothing about God. There is no sickness or disabilities with God and there is no sickness for the true children of God since a child of God can no longer sin. Sin and sickness is strictly of the devil and you will only find sin and sickness in unbelievers and deceived believers since they are children of the devil who do not either understand or they do not believe what scripture is relating. The children of the devil often try to use 1 John 1:8-1O or Romans 3:10, 3:23 and 7 in order to try and justify the sin that they possess in their wicked life. When they do they clearly prove that they have no idea what these scripture are relating or what they even mean. First in Romans 7 Paul is simply relating how he was a sinner until He was freed by knowing Christ and these deceived souls clearly overlooked how Paul related that he had died to sin and was no longer a slave to sin in Romans 6. The other scriptures are simply relating that everyone is born in sin and ignorance and so this is why mankind falls short of the glory of God since they are not living righteously. These scriptures are relating that this is why we need to repent and confess our sins to God so that He will then forgive us. They also relate that anyone who believes that they have never sinned is then calling God a liar. But nowhere are any of these scriptures ever stating that a believer will always sin as the children of the devil desire to believe. Anyone who tries to use these scripture in order to justify the sin that they possess in their life proves that they are a deceived believer who is a sinner and they belong to the devil. “He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.” I John 3:8 NKJV There is not one scripture that ever states that a child of God will sin or will have sickness in their life. There is not one scripture that ever states that a believer will always sin or can never stop sinning. There is not one scripture that ever states that a Christian who is a child of God will possess sickness in their life or states that sickness is a normal part of this life. Scripture clearly relates that if you truly follow God and you are His child then you cannot sin and this is why God will not allow the devil to touch you with sickness and disease since God will remove them from your life. “Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.” I John 3:9 NKJV “We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.” I John 5:18 NKJV “So you shall serve the LORD your God, and He will bless your bread and your water. And I will take sickness away from the midst of you. No one shall suffer miscarriage or be barren in your land; I will fulfill the number of your days.” Exodus 23:25-26 NKJV “And said, “If you diligently heed the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in His sight, give ear to His commandments and keep all His statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you which I have brought on the Egyptians. For I am the LORD who heals you.” Exodus 15:26 NKJV “And the LORD will take away from you all sickness, and will afflict you with none of the terrible diseases of Egypt which you have known, but will lay them on all those who hate you.” Deuteronomy 7:15 NKJV Scripture also relates that it is your sin that is allowing sickness to enter your life. “But the one who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, a multitude being in that place. Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.” John 5:13-14 NKJV Psalm 107:17. “Fools, because of their transgression, And because of their iniquities, were afflicted.” Know what this means? First transgression, it means an act that goes against a rule, a law or a code of conduct. Next iniquity, it means a wicked act or thing, sin. Finally, affliction, it means something that causes persistent pain or suffering. Translated it is saying that you are a fool if you do not follow God’s laws and commands and you go and sin because you will then have pain, suffering and sickness. So all of this proves that the children of the devil will certainly try to twist scripture in order to justify the sin and the sicknesses that they possess in their life because they do not want to admit that they are deceived in their beliefs and they are not children of God. To try and justify their afflictions some will claim that Paul’s thorn in the flesh was a sickness. For some reason many of these fools desire to believe that Paul possessed sickness and had bad eyesight. Acts 19 and 28 relates how Paul was able to remove the sickness from everyone who came to him so what could possibly make these deceived believers think that he was someone who had sickness in his life? Couldn’t Paul just remove the sickness from himself as he did with those who came to him for healing? Plus if Paul was bitten by a venomous snake and yet it did him no harm how could anyone possibly believe that Paul was someone who could then get sick himself? These sinners also try to claim that the apostles were sinners themselves. Now did the apostles live in sin at some time in their life? They most definitely did since everyone is born in sin and in ignorance of truth. But the apostles were believers who allowed Jesus to sanctify their heart in God’s truth and they learned how to overcome their sins. This is why God then used them as His messengers and He gave them His power to heal. Read John 17:6-19 where Jesus prayed for their sanctification. Many others try to manipulate what John 9:3, 1 Timothy 5:23, Galatians 4:13 and Philippians 2:26 are relating in order to explain the sicknesses they possess in their sinful lives. Some will even try and use Job and others from the Old Covenant to justify their sicknesses. When these deceived believers try to use anyone from the Old Covenant they certainly reveal their complete ignorance of scripture. Scripture relates that Job was a righteous man but what they clearly overlook is that we are all born in sin and ignorance and this included Job. Even though Job lived righteously he still possessed sin since there was no forgiveness of sins under the Old Covenant since Jesus had not arrived yet. Lastly, some will simply claim that sin has nothing to do with sickness and they deny the very words spoken by Jesus Himself. “But the one who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, a multitude being in that place. Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.” John 5:13-14 NKJV So if you are a believer who can still sin or who can still get sick then you do not know Jesus at all and you certainly do not understand scripture or the blessing that Jesus provided for all of mankind. You are simply a deceived believer who is a child of Lucifer since you have clearly fallen for the devil’s lies in regards to scripture and what it is relating.
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@@AlanaL3 sounds like you've not even listened to what she has said. And yes God can be glorified despite our pain and use our pain. Otherwise you are basically saying our pain is meaningless. Joni does talk about how God does feel for us as well, but He has also ordained all things for His greatest glory. God uses all things for good for those who love Him. (Romans 8:28) I feel a bit sad that you seem so angry towards "Calvinism".
@ no fool the nonsense simply comes from you. There are many deceived believers who are children of the devil and they will take a scripture like 1 John 1:8-10 and they will twist its meaning to claim that a believer can never stop sinning. “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.” I John 1:8-10 NKJV These people are so lost and misguided that they believe that this scripture is relating that a believer will always sin. These fools cannot comprehend that this scripture is simply stating that everyone is born a sinner since we are all born in sin and ignorance of truth. It is saying that this is why we need to repent and confess our sins to God so that He will then forgive us. It is also stating that anyone who believes that they have never sinned is then calling God a liar. But nowhere is this scripture ever relating that a believer will always sin as the children of the devil desire to believe. There is not one scripture that ever states that a believer will always continue to sin. Only people who are deceived think that a believer can never stop sinning and that God will just forgive them for all the sins that they commit. A Christian is someone who is a follower of Christ which means they are living “exactly like Christ” and they do not sin. There are many scriptures that use terms like, do not sin, has died to sin, has ceased from sin, cannot keep on sinning and cannot sin. All of these terms are used when describing a follower of Christ and this is why only the children of the devil would believe that they can never stop sinning. Here is what deceived believers are clearly missing. Yes we are all born in sin and we have all sinned but this does not mean that a believer can never stop sinning. Jesus came to forgive us of the sins that we have already committed and this occurs at the moment that we repent of our sins and we accept Jesus and His Holy Spirit into our life. Once we receive His Holy Spirit we were then commanded to surrender our will to God so that we would allow the Spirit to sanctify our heart in God’s truth. Sadly this is where the majority of believers fail and go astray because they never allow this process to occur since they do not understand how to test the Spirits as instructed in 1 John 4. Many are ignorantly believing that Jesus came to forgive our past, present and future sins. This spoken untruth is having people believe that they can continue in a life of sin and then simply repent and God will forgive them over and over. This is why many believe that if they repent just before they die then Jesus will save their sinful soul. This twisted reasoning would mean that you can continue to steal and then simply repent. You can then lie and then repent. You can then murder and simply repent. You can keep committing whatever sin you desire and simply repent afterwards and you will always be forgiven. This is simply nonsense that is fabricated by the devil to make you believe that you will always sin. Jesus came to call sinners to repentance since we are all born in sin. This meant for us to stop sinning entirely and to start living holy and righteously just as God commanded. “Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.”” John 5:14 NKJV “We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.” I John 5:18 NKJV “But as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, because it is written, “Be holy, for I am holy.” I Peter 1:15-16 NKJV “Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.” Matthew 5:48 NKJV “To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.” Revelation 3:21 NKJV “And He said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” Revelation 21:6-8 NKJV He who overcomes will inherit all things but anyone who continues in sin will only take part in the lake of fire. So if you do not overcome sin then you will never experience a sick free life in this fallen world nor might you be spending your eternity in heaven. “Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him. Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.” I John 3:4-9 NKJV So scripture clearly states that whoever sins does not know God, so that is you. Whoever sins is of the devil, that is also then you! Whoever abides in God and is born of God cannot sin and does not sin, this is me! Anyone who believes that they can never stop sinning is simply a deceived believer who does not understand a thing about scripture or the blessing that Jesus provided for all of mankind.
@ Yes, and another relevant text is James 3:2: 'For we all stumble in many ways.' In this verse stumbling refers to committing unpremeditated sins of short duration. And James is clear that we all do this. I would expect that anyone who says they literally don't sin at all is actually - and very ironically - guilty of the sin of arrogance.
I am 13. My pain started at very late 11. I have a couple headaches every single day, struggle to stand a couple times every single day, etc. u get it, just pain. God has blessed me with two parents who believe my pain 🙌 I am so grateful for that! 😁 I’m so afraid that no one believes me I had a nightmare bout that 2 days ago. Let me tell u all the blessings my pain has brought me! I can spot my sin so much easier than before! I worship God truly! I am closer to God! I am afraid tho. My pain started very small and now it’s this only after one year. I’m assuming it gets worse from here 😥 but I’m getting the gift of being with God for eternity 💃🙌 it’s very worth it for that tiny price 😂 id appreciate prayers to help me get closer to God! It’s a struggle 😅 Jesus loves you! ❤️🫶
When the woman that was bent over for 18 years Jesus saw her and set her free from the devil with a command to the devil to loosen her ! We must also give that command to the darkness of this world to loosen us and get out in the name of Jesus! Jesus gave us all power and authority over all the enemies! That’s why he gave us instructions to preach the gospel and he witnesses of him and do the signs and wonders He did! That’s why scripture reads that Jesus said you can do things I did and greater! Only believe in the name of Jesus!
I have severe chronic tinnitus, an intense ringing in both ears. Can barely have a conversation. Not a day goes by when I don't hear this sharp sound. I fear that I'll go deaf one day. God, you are the great physician, but if I must stay like this, may I suffer well.
I deal with chronic sciatica pain and bad peripheral neuropathy in my left foot. I just cannot understand why God won't allow the insurance to easily and quickly approve the therapies all my doctors say I need. Even after this I am struggling with understanding chronic pain.
I’ve been a very sickly person since birth. I just got diagnosed with a rare disease and apart from that I’m constantly getting sick. I’ve been in pain for the past five years I can’t run and some days I can barely walk. Someone asked me, “didn’t you say once, “I’d rather suffer young and live out my adult life happy.”” Which makes me think maybe this is why God is always having me Read Job. I’ve been through so much emotional pain I lost my mother and other painful experiences. At times I have asked God that if this is my life to please let me be with him,but that if there’s blessing on the other side of this then I will go on living. But even if there isn’t I will live until he asks me not too any longer because I love him. I definitely see that the sickness is glorifying God because through all the pain I cling closer to Him. When I’m in bed, in pain, all I can do is pray to Him and stay in His word. So everything you have said is absolutely correct and I needed a reminder of it. From the bottom of my heart thank you.
I suffer from chronic pain to the point I am unable to function and am bedridden which keeps me from doing the things I want to do. How does this glorify God?, It angers me that these chronic pain physicians have the power to alleviate my pain but instead, they cut my pain medication in half due to fear of the DEA imprisoning them.
😭🙏 YES LORD! PLEASE TAKE AWAY HER PAIN & BRING TO HER EVEN MORE LOVE KNOWING ONLY YOU CAN & AS WITH PETER, BY DOING SO, ALSO REASSURE HER YOU KNOW SHE LOVES YOU WITH ALL HER HEART & YOU KNOW SHE WOULD... WILL, ENDURE UNTIL THE END. AMEN.
if anyone can answer me i appreciate it, i love God and Yes i believe He is good but after so many illness pain problems etc i start habing the famous question of why Gid allow our suffering if He can stop it why we keep having pains etc how do we keep the faith in times when God is silent ?
I’m interested to know if Pastor John suffers from chronic pain. I suffer from back, shoulders, and hip pain. I’m a Christian, yet I find no purpose for people who have to go through life in torment. I feel like Job and all I can do now is wait for the next ailment. I’ll be much better off when I’m dead.
This might rate as the most challenging of teachings. Yet … I have suffered for 40 years. The last 20 I have been mostly disabled in intractable pain. Yet. . God is not mocked by my pain. He consoles me in the worst of times and carries me through it. I “offer it up.” The devil scoffs and accuses. I say, “be gone slimy one, in Jesus holy name.” Heaven is waiting for us, and cheering us on. Be joyful always Pray continually and be thankful in all circumstances. For this is Gods will for us, in Christ Jesus. - Thessalonians
You should have been born with handicaps and being mistreated by others. Growing up with those handicaps with all that pain and agony where there were no pain meds yet not available as a young child. Through my teens where I'd sit out in nature and cry from the agony I was going through. Yes I have a torchered mind from the terrible times I've gone through in my life. But through it all I have done much to help others even though I have been mistreated and spat apon as a child. My life has been hard but it's been worth it just the same.
It’s a good thing that this teaching reaches all the denominations. “Be joyful always, pray continuously, and be thankful in all circumstances. For this is God’s will for us, in Christ Jesus.”
Why do Christians suffer? For more details, please watch the sermon of the Light of Wisdom Church, welcome everyone to study and discuss together. Video “Happiness Increases Greed, and Greed Increases Suffering ｜The Essence of Happiness & True Freedom 03” If you think it makes sense, we must not only believe it ourselves, but also spread it to more people. Evangelism is not only the job of pastors, but also the responsibility of every believer. This is also the aspect that the Lord values most when ascending to the kingdom of heaven
Why do Christians suffer? For more details, please watch the sermon of the Light of Wisdom Church, welcome everyone to study and discuss together. Video “Happiness Increases Greed, and Greed Increases Suffering ｜The Essence of Happiness & True Freedom 03 If you think it makes sense, we must not only believe it ourselves, but also spread it to more people. Evangelism is not only the job of pastors, but also the responsibility of every believer. This is also the aspect that the Lord values most when ascending to the kingdom of heaven.
It is so hard to take pain and anuse.. Pain from uncurable deceases and abused by our veloced ones. Anused by my father and by my children who I have worked hard for. Sometimes I believe my illneses are priduct of my mistakes in life. 🙏 AMEN.
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Romans 8:18 reminds us that the sufferings of the present are incomparable to the glory that is to come. Chronic suffering can either weaken the body and soul in its unrelenting cyclical nature (if we doubt the immanence and sovereign power of God), or it can strengthen our faith if we know in Whom we believe (1 Tim 1:12), believers will always prevail as God has promised to chisel us though we tarry and doubt, that isn’t being presumptuous upon Gods will, that’s Gods word. God didn’t give us to his son before the foundation of the world, keep us, call us, awaken us, give us the free gifts of faith and repentance, regenerate us, seal our salvation for our eternal sakes to leave it to our fallen wisdom to become unborn again and unrighteous in Christ and reject he that enabled us to believe upon him because God made an error before the foundation of the world !! We are on the trajectory he knew we would take and he assures us no matter what happens to preserve and uphold us, anyone else out there offering you anything like that ?? The biblical fact is every true believer will inevitably make it safely home to glory because the Lord is preserving him or her, so thank God that God keeps us through the work of the Holy Spirit who guards and guarantees the salvation of the ones He indwells (Ephesians 1:13; 4:30). The two halves of Psalm 63.8 reflect the two sides of the doctrine of perseverance: ‘My soul clings to you; your right hand upholds me.’ Our souls go on clinging to God in faith because his right hand is upholding us, so thank God for Gods perseverance and enduring love. Stephen, in his final sermon before he was killed for his faith, retold the story of God’s dealings with Israel from the time Abraham left his country in obedience to God’s command, all the way to the coming of Christ, the “Righteous One,” whom Israel betrayed and murdered. The crowd who heard Stephen hated what he said, covering their ears and rushing at him to stone him. “But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God” (Acts 7:55). God has a completely different way of seeing things than us, God is always in control though we may not see that amidst enduring trials and tribulations, God knows exactly what these are and waits patiently like the loving father he is for acquiescence so he may empower us to the end. Deuteronomy 31:6 Be strong and courageous. Do not fear or be in dread of them, for it is the Lord your God who goes with you. He will not leave you or forsake you. Acts 1:8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth. 1 John 4:4 Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. (2 Cor 12:9-10. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong. “If you make the Most High your dwelling, no harm will overtake you” (Psalm 91:9-10 NIV) God’s people are surrounded by walls of protection. Nothing can truly harm us in the places that matter. But this isn’t a guarantee that we will experience no pain. It’s a promise that everything that comes to us, including our trials, is part of God’s fatherly, detailed care. Our Father will keep us safe, and he will keep us to the end. The truth is that God doesn’t promise certain limits to suffering. He doesn’t guarantee personal happiness. He doesn’t ensure our escape from pain. His people are often crushed beyond measure: the Bible makes that abundantly clear.4 Here are some guarantees God’s word does give us: • Suffering will come, but we will also share in Christ’s glory (1 Peter 4:12-13). • All that happens will be for our good, to make us more like Jesus (Rom 8:28-30). • Nothing can ever separate us from God’s love (Rom 8:38-39). • He won’t let us be tempted - that is, tested - beyond what we can bear, but will provide a way for us to endure it (1 Cor 10:13). • He will give us all we need for life and godliness (2 Pet 1:3) • In our weakness, he will give us strength (2 Cor 12:9-10 cf 2 Cor 4:7-12; Phil 4:11-13; Col 1:11-14). “I will say to the Lord, “My refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust.” (Psalm 91:2)
I can’t see how God is glorified by pain. Daily unremitting pain feels like hell. As a father, if my child was crying out in pain and I didn’t do anything about it I’m not sure what that would say about me. Also remember that your mind undergirds faith. Chronic pain changes your mind, your personality even starts changing when you are being tortured every day. And if your faith is weakened on account of it, is that your fault as if somehow you can just summon up faith? That somehow now God will punish you even more because you didn’t have enough faith in your chronic pain while more fortunate souls coast through life on the wings of pleasure, call themselves Christians, without a care and tell us in chronic pain to have faith. I wish I had answers but to think that my pain glorifies God - I’m not there yet.
I feel you. I was having an abnormally strong attack of my chronic pain the other day. I told my wife, “I know you would heal me in a heartbeat, so why doesn’t God?” I don’t understand the purpose for any of this. I’m already a Christian so it’s not like the pain is leading me to Christ. It seems utterly pointless.
Why do Christians suffer? For more details, please watch the sermon of the Light of Wisdom Church, welcome everyone to study and discuss together. Video “Happiness Increases Greed, and Greed Increases Suffering ｜The Essence of Happiness & True Freedom 03”
Can emotional pain and trauma, mental health issues, be classified as chronic pain? My family and I have been suffering for particularly a decade now, but the trauma started early for me, and also for my mother who doesn’t know Jesus yet. I’m praying God will save her so that her suffering won’t be in vain anymore. She doesn’t understand why God is allowing her to suffer so much, and she only wishes to have a calm and happy last few years of life, as she’s 51 and feels like her life’s been useless so far. She has no hope in anything apart from worldly things at this point, and none of the things in our life are trustworthy. The hurt and betrayal of my dad cheating on her last year and leaving hit especially hard, after he also burned our house down 11 years ago.
I wonder about this too. I’m in a similar situation to yours. I would say that all suffering - whether that is emotional or physical - is giving glory to God, given that we remain faithful, always affirming in our hearts that He is worth every bit of pain, He is more than worth it. I’ve always had such anger at how dysfunctional family life can be, many times I wanted to run away from home, or just cut people out of my life entirely, but realizing that no one can be perfectly healthy in this damaging world (physically or emotionally) and that as people, we are inevitably going to hurt each other, that we don’t give up when someone’s at their worst... that God is using those relationships to shape us into who He wants us to be... that has made all the difference. I feel free not to be anxious about what other people do, how other people try to hurt me, because I have a defender. It has helped immeasurably to realize that God brings everything together, even things we would never choose, and that is the only way He could make us exactly who He intends us to be. Will pray for your mom. My mom is similar. Also praying for you. I know it’s very stressful as the child of an unsaved person to have this anxiety of “what’s going to happen to my mom?” It’s hard. I’m praying. ❤️
@@shelbycurry721 I have had clinical depression that did not respond to treatment and have also had chronic nerve pain from crushed vertebra in a car accident. I could not tell you which is worse. Having experienced both, I can say that they are very different from each other but I could not make a judgment over which is worse. Since I can't say one is worse than the other, I can say that both count as valid suffering. So if you are suffering, do not add guilt to that. I would guess that would only make you feel worse.
Sorry to hear about that. But honestly I don’t think they should be compared. Both mental and physical pain are difficult to deal with. But they’re very different to deal with. As someone who’s gone through both, I don’t think mental health issues should be called chronic pain. Chronic pain will literally turn your life upside down with no option, but the chances u overcome mental struggles are higher
As Piper explains, worshipping God in the midst of suffering is a powerful testament to nonbelievers that God is precious to you. That's how. It makes God look WONDERFUL, and you can be sure your reward in Heaven will be great.
This Lee Bard guy is utterly clueless in his beliefs. Many are like him and they are foolishly believing that God desires for us to suffer afflictions through pain, sickness and disabilities and that is simply utter nonsense that is being related by the believers who have been deceived the devil. Sickness comes from sin and only those who follow the devil’s lies can get sick since they are living in sin by disobeying God and His commands. What scripture means by suffering for God is how a child of God will suffer when dealing with the many deceived believers and the unbelievers of this evil fallen world. It has absolutely nothing at all to do with sickness or disabilities and deceived believers are reasoning that it does since they are trying to justify their sicknesses by twisting scripture verses. Jesus and the Apostles did not possess sickness as some desire to believe. Jesus did not sin since He lived in holiness and once He sanctified His disciples in truth they then lived in holiness also. So their suffering was not from sickness as many desire to believe since their suffering came at the hands of the wicked people that they had to deal with. This is how they suffered for God since they were relating God’s truth but the majority of the believers that they had to deal with did not desire to hear God’s truth since it would expose their ignorance and their sin. Scripture relates how Jesus openly rebuked and criticized the Pharisees and the Sadducees and yet most fail to realize that these were supposedly faithful believers. They probably even possessed more knowledge of scripture then most of today’s believers. When Jesus exposed their sin and their unbelief Jesus used words such as fools, foolish ones, evil, wicked, heathens, hypocrites, brood of vipers, son of hell and your father is the devil. The people back then did not like to hear how sinful they were and this why they hated Jesus so much and this is why they had Him crucified. So it is quite obvious that the deceived and evil believers of today are no different then the misguided believers back then since both obviously do not like to have their sin and their unbelief exposed. “And He said to the man who had the withered hand, “Step forward.” Then He said to them, “Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?” But they kept silent. And when He had looked around at them with anger, being grieved by the hardness of their hearts, He said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” And he stretched it out, and his hand was restored as whole as the other.” Mark 3:3-5 NKJV This is where Paul’s suffering also came from through imprisonments, stoning and being whipped and it certainly was not from some type of sickness. To try and justify their afflictions many will often claim that Paul’s thorn in the flesh was a sickness. These people clearly prove that they do not understand God or scripture. What does a thorn in the flesh do? Well it causes pain and suffering. Just as Jesus suffered in the wilderness by being tempted by Satan, Jesus then allowed Satan to tempt Paul in order to make him stronger in the Holy Spirit. “And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong.” II Corinthians 12:7-10 NKJV Many desire to believe that Paul possessed sickness and that he had bad eyesight and that is simply nonsense. If Acts 19 and 28 relates how Paul was able to remove the sickness from everyone who came to him then what could possibly make anyone believe that he was someone who possessed sickness in his life? Couldn’t Paul just remove the sickness from himself as he did with those who came to him for healing? Plus if Paul was bitten by a venomous snake and yet it did him no harm how could anyone possibly believe that type of nonsense! Paul simply suffered the same way other true disciples suffer and that is through the wickedness of the many deceived believers and unbelievers who follow the devil’s lies and nonsense. “From the Jews five times I received forty stripes minus one. Three times I was beaten with rods; once I was stoned; three times I was shipwrecked; a night and a day I have been in the deep; in journeys often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils of my own countrymen, in perils of the Gentiles, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; in weariness and toil, in sleeplessness often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness- besides the other things, what comes upon me daily: my deep concern for all the churches. Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is made to stumble, and I do not burn with indignation? If I must boast, I will boast in the things which concern my infirmity.” II Corinthians 11:24-30 NKJV Infirmity means physical or mental weakness and it is not a sickness. This is why people are simply twisting scripture verses in order to justify the sin and the sicknesses that they possess in their wicked lives. There is no sickness with God and there is no sickness for the true children of God since a child of God can no longer sin. Sin and sickness is strictly of the devil and you will only find sin and sickness in unbelievers and deceived believers since they are following the devil lies. They either do not understand or they do not believe what scripture is relating and so they are deceived. This certainly proves that they are not a Christian since a Christian is someone who has overcome sin and sickness in their life. Sickness comes from the devil and the devil can only touch you with afflictions if you belong to him. The devil cannot bring sickness on someone who is born of God because a child of God cannot sin and does not sin. “Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him. Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.” I John 3:6-8 NKJV “Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.” I John 3:9 NKJV “We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.” I John 5:18 NKJV So you cannot possibly be a Christian if you can sin or you can get sick since only the children of the devil possess sin and sickness in their lives. Most believers are not Christians since a true Christian cannot sin nor can they ever get sick. To prove my point try and provide one scripture verse where God instructed you to live in sin or where God stated that you will always sin or you could never stop sinning? Provide one scripture where God stated that a person who possesses sin and sickness in their life is His child? Provide one scripture verse that states that a Christian will possess sickness in their lives or where scripture states that sickness is a normal part of this life? I know that you cannot provide any scriptures because there are no such scriptures and that is why you would need to twist or add to God’s word so that you can justify the sin and the sickness that you possess in your unbelieving life. “For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:18-19 NKJV
@@mikerutkowski7265 It's sad you lack a basic level of human empathy like that. It's even sadder you have such a poor understanding of the New Testament, (if you have read it).
I have chronic muscle and nerve pain and my spine is deteriorating have degenerative disc disease fractured vertebrae's fractured pelvis and fractured tailbone, I also have spina bifida with dimple tethered cord, I cry alot, what does God say about me and this pain
It can be. Just look at Paul who had his 'thorn in the flesh' which seems to have been some form of chronic illness. If Jesus had to suffer then its understandable that we should suffer too.
Yes, we aren't sure what Paul's thorn in the flesh was, but it was probably some sort of non-life-threatening physical ailment. I do think, though, that if the pain is severe and very debilitating, it will probably be God's will to heal it before death.
This Hear God’s Voice is a child of the devil who is twisting scripture to try and justify the sin and sickness in his wicked life. He is simply a fool who knows nothing about God and scripture. There is no sickness with God and there is no sickness for the true children of God since a child of God can no longer sin. Sin and sickness is strictly of the devil and you will only find sin and sickness in unbelievers and deceived believers since they are children of the devil who do not either understand or they do not believe what scripture is relating. The children of the devil often try to use 1 John 1:8-1O or Romans 3:10, 3:23 and 7 in order to try and justify the sin that they possess in their wicked life. When they do they clearly prove that they have no idea what these scripture are relating or what they even mean. First in Romans 7 Paul is simply relating how he was a sinner until He was freed by knowing Christ and these deceived souls clearly overlooked how Paul related that he had died to sin and was no longer a slave to sin in Romans 6. The other scriptures are simply relating that everyone is born in sin and ignorance and so this is why mankind falls short of the glory of God since they are not living righteously. These scriptures are relating that this is why we need to repent and confess our sins to God so that He will then forgive us. They also relate that anyone who believes that they have never sinned is then calling God a liar. But nowhere are any of these scriptures ever stating that a believer will always sin as the children of the devil desire to believe. Anyone who tries to use these scripture in order to justify the sin that they possess in their life proves that they are a deceived believer who is a sinner and they belong to the devil. “He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.” I John 3:8 NKJV There is not one scripture that ever states that a child of God will sin or will have sickness in their life. There is not one scripture that ever states that a believer will always sin or can never stop sinning. There is not one scripture that ever states that a Christian who is a child of God will possess sickness in their life or states that sickness is a normal part of this life. Scripture clearly relates that if you truly follow God and you are His child then you cannot sin and this is why God will not allow the devil to touch you with sickness and disease since God will remove them from your life. “Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.” I John 3:9 NKJV “We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.” I John 5:18 NKJV “So you shall serve the LORD your God, and He will bless your bread and your water. And I will take sickness away from the midst of you. No one shall suffer miscarriage or be barren in your land; I will fulfill the number of your days.” Exodus 23:25-26 NKJV “And said, “If you diligently heed the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in His sight, give ear to His commandments and keep all His statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you which I have brought on the Egyptians. For I am the LORD who heals you.” Exodus 15:26 NKJV “And the LORD will take away from you all sickness, and will afflict you with none of the terrible diseases of Egypt which you have known, but will lay them on all those who hate you.” Deuteronomy 7:15 NKJV Scripture also relates that it is your sin that is allowing sickness to enter your life. “But the one who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, a multitude being in that place. Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.” John 5:13-14 NKJV Psalm 107:17. “Fools, because of their transgression, And because of their iniquities, were afflicted.” Know what this means? First transgression, it means an act that goes against a rule, a law or a code of conduct. Next iniquity, it means a wicked act or thing, sin. Finally, affliction, it means something that causes persistent pain or suffering. Translated it is saying that you are a fool if you do not follow God’s laws and commands and you go and sin because you will then have pain, suffering and sickness. So all of this proves that the children of the devil will certainly try to twist scripture in order to justify the sin and the sicknesses that they possess in their life because they do not want to admit that they are deceived in their beliefs and they are not children of God. To try and justify their afflictions some will claim that Paul’s thorn in the flesh was a sickness. For some reason many of these fools desire to believe that Paul possessed sickness and had bad eyesight. Acts 19 and 28 relates how Paul was able to remove the sickness from everyone who came to him so what could possibly make these deceived believers think that he was someone who had sickness in his life? Couldn’t Paul just remove the sickness from himself as he did with those who came to him for healing? Plus if Paul was bitten by a venomous snake and yet it did him no harm how could anyone possibly believe that Paul was someone who could then get sick himself? These sinners also try to claim that the apostles were sinners themselves. Now did the apostles live in sin at some time in their life? They most definitely did since everyone is born in sin and in ignorance of truth. But the apostles were believers who allowed Jesus to sanctify their heart in God’s truth and they learned how to overcome their sins. This is why God then used them as His messengers and He gave them His power to heal. Read John 17:6-19 where Jesus prayed for their sanctification. Many others try to manipulate what John 9:3, 1 Timothy 5:23, Galatians 4:13 and Philippians 2:26 are relating in order to explain the sicknesses they possess in their sinful lives. Some will even try and use Job and others from the Old Covenant to justify their sicknesses. When these deceived believers try to use anyone from the Old Covenant they certainly reveal their complete ignorance of scripture. Scripture relates that Job was a righteous man but what they clearly overlook is that we are all born in sin and ignorance and this included Job. Even though Job lived righteously he still possessed sin since there was no forgiveness of sins under the Old Covenant since Jesus had not arrived yet. Lastly, some will simply claim that sin has nothing to do with sickness and they deny the very words spoken by Jesus Himself. “But the one who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, a multitude being in that place. Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.” John 5:13-14 NKJV So if you are a believer who can still sin or who can still get sick then you do not know Jesus at all and you certainly do not understand scripture or the blessing that Jesus provided for all of mankind. You are simply a deceived believer who is a child of Lucifer since you have clearly fallen for the devil’s lies in regards to scripture and what it is relating.
@@mikerutkowski7265 thanks for another one of your copy and pastes. Based on your false opinion Paul can't have been a believer because he got sick!! D'oh.
@@HearGodsWordPaul did not get sick fool and clearly copying and pasting irritates your ignorant and deceived soul. You are simply a child of the devil who lives in sin and sickness and you are destined for an eternity in hell. You are just like the majority of believers and you are deceived in your beliefs and so you are living in sin. This proves that you are not a Christian since a Christian is someone who has overcome sin and sickness in this earthly life. Many are simply deceived believers and their sin proves that they are children of the devil since they are living in both sin and sickness. Sickness comes from the devil and the devil can only touch you if you belong to him. The devil cannot bring sickness on someone who is born of God because a child of God cannot sin and does not sin. “Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him. Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.” I John 3:6-8 NKJV “Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.” I John 3:9 NKJV “We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.” I John 5:18 NKJV So you cannot possibly be a Christian if you can sin or you can get sick since only the children of the devil possess sin and sickness in their lives. Give me just one scripture verse where God stated that a person who possesses sin and sickness in their life is His child? Give me one scripture verse that states that a Christian will possess sickness in their lives or where scripture states that sickness is a normal part of this life? Give me just one scripture verse that states that a believer will always sin or that a believer can never stop sinning? I know that you cannot provide any scriptures because there are no such scriptures and that is why you would need to twist or add to God’s word so that you can try and justify the sin and the sickness that you possess in your unbelieving life. “For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:18-19 NKJV So anyone who possesses sin and sickness in their life is proving they are a deceived believer who is a child of the devil and they are not a Christian since a Christian lives in the blessing that Jesus provided for all of mankind and this is why they can no longer sin nor can they ever get sick.
@@mikerutkowski7265 no I think copy and pasting is pathetic, but then you're more interested in promoting yourself than you are in bringing people to Christ. If you're so sure that Paul didn't get sick then explain away his recurring thorn in the flesh...
I'm so tired of not having a life. I was burnt out and exhausted at 18 and I'm 32 this year and I feel like my life has passed me by. I feel lazy because I don't have a diagnosis yet but I'm working on it. I'm so tired. and everything hurts. but doctors just dismiss it as anxiety...but I don't do anything! how and why am I "anxious" over nothing and how will I ever have a life, a job, a family, hobbies, if nothing makes me tired? I don't get it and I'm so depressed. my heart issues make it hard to do even small things and it makes it hard to keep the faith. I try and I'm trying. but I'm tired.
Lmao right? I’m not gonna put up with this much longer. I’m giving myself a few years and if nothing gets better, then it’s off to Japan where I can have a little fun exploring before I take the plunge. I know that may sound a tad strange but I’ve always wanted to go there
Christ suffered the most. The Spirit himself testifies together with our spirit that we are God’s children, and if children, also heirs-heirs of God and coheirs with Christ-if indeed we suffer with him so that we may also be glorified with him. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is going to be revealed to us. Romans 8:16-18
Trick question. It doesn’t!!!! But WE can glorify God by giving him praise THROUGH the pain while we believe that the Devil is the one responsible for ALL pain, sickness, illness and that Jesus came so that we may have LIFE and have it more abundantly. The Bible says by His stripes we WERE healed!!! No ifs ands or buts! Once we pay attention to Jesus and what he did while on earth, we glorify God by RECEIVING his blessings and total healing that Jesus freely gave to us 2000 years ago when he died on the cross and rose again beating the devil! He said greater things will YOU do than I have done! He said pray for the sick and they WILL be healed! Healing IS ALWAYS his will!
i don't believe in a god that thinks there's a good reason to deeply wound a human to an unbearable point. one thing i know there is a thousand maybe a million way to teach a lesson if that's what god trying to get to But breaking his own creations to pieces for his own desire is just sick.
Pain does not glorify God. Pain is from the pit of hell. It steals your joy, your peace, people are housebound because of pain. Someone who was in pain to have their pain healed glorifys God. I will never accept being in pain or be at peace with being in pain. Jesus does not have pain, and as he is so am I in the Earth. Isn't that what the Bible says?
Is it theologically accurate to to take one verse and say well if the bible says this we can take it one step further and say that's God's will to? Even though the verse itself has conveniently left that one word out. Romans 8:35 Are you not adding to the scriptures your own word and meaning? After all we know it's God's will that we love others, yet many would be hard pressed to take that one step further and teach love means tolerance of others behavior at all times. You'd be adding a human teaching of tolerance to bibical teaching of love.
I have chronic conditions that aren't curable. They cause so much pain. And it is constant. Please pray for me that I can get some relief. Thank you
Going thru the same, i hear you. Sending cares and prayers 🙏✨!
same man I fractured my pelvis and spine and have severe damaged nerve pain tht is not getting better it is miserable praying God can heal us soon
I have prayed for you.
Father, I lift up, "cared for", you know who they are, and ask You, Almighty God, to show them your glory, the glory that You reveal to those who share in the fellowship if the sufferings of Your Son and or Savior, Jesus Christ.
Father, I ask that You would open the heart and give him/ her insight into the value of remaining faithful in the midst of thier suffering.
Sometimes, Lord, we just don't understand, but it's all for Your glory. Our faith is perfected through suffering.
So I ask, You, Father to comfort those of us that suffer. Keep us faithful, Lord, and fill our hearts with the same love and devotion to You that Christ displayed as He hung on the cross.
Father, I humbly pray this in Jesus's Holy Name. Amen
Prayed for you 🙏
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Listened to this over 4xs.
I needed to hear this sermon.
chronic back pain has destroyed my life for 25 yrs (I’m only 39). Along with my emotional & spiritual health. I lost hope a long time ago. But I’ve always believed God is there with me “taking care of me”.
I loved God but not enough… this sermon helped me see my suffering in a different light. A positive light .
Thank you for this!
What an amazing person you are. May God enable you to persevere. What you have written has helped me and will help those I share your comment with.
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I'm happy my experience & words have helped another. dealing with any chronic illness or situation can drive a person mad & lonely. sometimes it even feels like God isnt enough or he's abandoned you....truth He is always there. He just believes in your strength. God showed me to take my bad days hour to hour second to second & moment to moment. because it will be ok, Hope that helped
I suffer on a daily basis with chronic pain. My only hope is to continue worshipping and trusting in God.
Just because I am in pain, it doesn't negate the truth that God is good.
I suffer and this is all I know.
Western Medicine Practioners are Evil.
I have a chronic debilitating neck, shoulder and rotator pain. Been praying for so long without any deliverance but one thing for sure is nothing I go through will diminish my love for my Lord and Savior. I pray that Jehovah Rapha will heal everyone from whatever issues they are suffering with in the mighty name of Lord Jesus Christ. Amen
I have got chronic arthritis back pain for more than 14 yrs. Finding it very difficult. Am in severe pain. Pls pray for me. From Fiji
I've had debilitating pain since I was 29. It all really started around the time I got out of the Marines. It makes life EXTREMELY HARD. I want a glorified body and to be with our Lord and my family. I TRULY would love to live a normal life. I'm 41 now and I fear what I will be going through here in 10 years. I hope God hears my prayers in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen
Brother, I'm going to be 62 in just 2 days. I suffer every day, but I promise you that the Lord hears each and every prayer you send up.
Let me share with you what happened just 1 week ago.
I have 3 girls, one married, and we had been gifted 5 box seats at the Denver Nuggets game.
I woke up that morning, and I was in terrible terrible pain. I was in so much pain that I was litterally in tears, but the greatest pain was the thought of not being able to spend this time with my girls... I was devastated, to say the least.
My wife, the girls, and I were praying that I would get the relief that I needed to make it to the game. I was praying all day.
Needless to say, when it came time to go, I was able to walk, we went to the game, and it was such a blessing to have this moment with my girls.
Although the Lord allows me to go through the pain, I absolutely know that He loves me, He owes me nothing, yet He gives me everything.
Brother, I have lifted you up in prayer, not that you might be healed, but that you may know Him in your suffering just as He knew you in His suffering.
I want you to know that we suffer for a greater good that I cannot explain.
We share in the fellowship of His suffering, and all I can say is, when you let go of the bitterness and the woe is me, why is this happening to me attitude, you will find a joy in your suffering that is hard to explain.
I love the Lord more in my suffering than I ever did in my healthy days, and I wouldn't trade my suffering and the love that I have, right now, for Him, for a pain free life... it's just hard to explain, but it is what it is, and I love Him all the more for it.
God bless you, my brother.
@@michaelpack7591 I wouldn't really say I have a why is this happening to me attitude. This just started when I was 28 and I don't plan on having children now because I couldn't be the father I wanted. It totally uprooted any plans I had for myself and any kind of a future. I more try to look at it as maybe this was what it was gonna take to get me to turn to the Lord. Because in my younger days if I wasn't going through this I don't know if I EVER would have. That's how I'm trying to approach this. This may have been necessary for my salvation.
@@krismyers3995 You know what? I NEVER thought I would be a dad. In fact, I wasn't until I was 45 years old.
I spent more time in jail and prison in my first 30 years than I did on the streets. I was a drug addict, and a rotten SOB, and my wife was also a drug addict, but the Lord pulled us out together.
I haven't lived a perfect life, but if I had it to do all over again, I guess that I wouldn't change a thing.
I'm about 60% bed bound, and I wish that I could be more of a dad to my girls than I already am, but none of this negates the fact that the Lord brought me around to where I am today.
Please, don't think that I was saying that you have a, "why me" attitude. I don't know you, so that's not for me to say. However, I do think that it's easy to get into that mode, so I pray for your protection.
One more thing, I pray that you have a very very merry Christmas.
God bless you, brother!
Btw, thank you for your military service.
@@michaelpack7591how was you able to be happy through it all?
Im going through something similar, I'm just 23 year old female, i feel left out and lonely at times i have to stay on tasteless liquid diet for atleast an year, lost all my friends, my bf broke up with me as i wanted to get closer to God but he didn't want that, i still live with my parents and it feels like nobody understand me at times, how to take all this positively..?
Sitting here with tears running down my face. I have have suffered greatly with fibromyalgia for the past 7 years to the point where i am mostly bed bound now. I can barely make it through the day and i have kids i need to homeschool. I try and do my best even though we are so far behind. I feel so much guilt for it. My house is a complete filthy mess because am never able to clean it up to standard. My kids have to most of the work. Which is washing, washing dishes and washing the floors and other small tasks. I try and do the cooking and what i can when i dont feel sick. Its tough living like this and sometimes I do think how can this possibly be of any value in this life?? But this message has benefitted me so much and spkoe straight to my heart. I was having a bad day and this popped up and I just knew God sent it to me. Thank you Lord.
I know this is an old comment but I wanted to share my experience with fibromyalgia. I’ve taken lyrica and tramadol for the last 5 years and it has been a life changer for me. I recommend asking a doctor to prescribe it, just be careful with tramadol, it needs to be monitored at all times because it can become addictive and cause other side effects. That being said, I can’t function without it and I’m hoping I never have to stop taking it or find something else that works. Never give up and try finding what works for you too. Blessings
Hi,Thank you so much for your reply. I live in Vietnam so im not sure if they will have that medicine this side. Just wondering if its for pain or fatique. I am mostly bed bound because of the severe fatigue i have right now. I have pain aswell but its bearable. Its just the fatique getting me down now. @@melchaparro3443
@lavanda_school_of_life Hi there. Thank you for your reply. Thats very kind of you. Im so sorry to hear about your situation. My mom actaully had a brain tumor and had to have that removed twice but after the second operation she was never okay and died soon after. So i kind of get what that entails so for you to go through so much i feel so sorry for you!!! I know this is tough but i have learned to keep seeking God in my pain and he gives me understanding of why we go through this and what He wants to accomplish in us. But I get you its tough to understand sometimes and i have felt like you before many many times because Im also constantly going through sicknesses. For me when one sickness stops its the next. I just had to go to hospital last week because I was getting the worst pains in my lungs and the week before that i threw my back out. Im only 37 but i feel 80🤣🤣🤣. I hope you have some family around you that can help or are you part of a church so they can help?? And im so sorry for all the things that you have suffered by other people. Please hang in there and know that God loves us even though we go through this. Keep seeking Him and soon we will be set free.
Reading comments makes me feel that Im not alone, will keep all of u in my prayers❤
My chronic pain is the depression and anxiety that limits what I am able to achieve in my life. I wish I could wake up one day and feel normal.
Stay strong and God loves you
I wish I could serve God better but I can barely move some days
@@Jennifer-di4nl bruh I cant even move at all from this nerve pain
@@zowiewowie4458 I have nerve damage as well. I've had over 30 surgeries and I'm permanently damaged. I've been this way over a decade. All I can tell you is just because your body is damaged doesn't mean you can't improve your mind. Learn how to enjoy reading and learning. Also get a good pain doctor....don't stop searching for one you like. Most pain doctors suck. Don't be hard on yourself. Push yourself for an hour or two a day so you can get the essentials done then give your body a rest. Don't GAF what others think, they don't endure your pain and have no clue how badly you suffer. Eat as best you can...try to cut out all GMO and non organic foods....it makes a big difference.
@@Jennifer-di4nl thank you Jen you are much tougher than me I hope God will deliver us soon
Father God. We ask for the gifts of healing and faith to be upon all our beloved for the glory of God. I pray in Jesus name 🙏
Sometimes the pain is so severe that the manner in which we glorify God is to simply endure the pain while clinging to Christ till our last breath. I suffer from chronic sinusitis - and it makes my life absolutely miserable. There are some days where I can barely get out of bed. Nevertheless, Christ is my hope. The measure of our endurance and faithfulness to Christ in this life will surely be compensated by God Himself in eternity. I’m convinced that those with the most treasure in heaven are the people who suffered greatly and never lost their faith in Christ.
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Amen! To Him be all the glory forever and ever, Amen.
I’m so sorry someone told you this. Gods plan is NOT for you to have sickness! Jesus died on the cross for our sins and our total healing! Believe you have already received through faith and command the sickness to leave your body in Jesus name!
You know what Alfonso, you're absolutely right.
I suffer from chronic pain from 3 different types of arthritis and I've had 15 different surgeries because of it, and I have to say, I've never been closer to Almighty God.
Anyone that says that suffering is not a part of God's plan simply hasn't read thier bibles. In fact, there's a special crown that we receive for holding fast to the Lord.
There will be a day when we will never suffer again, but that's not going to happen this side of life.
Hold fast to the confession of your faith my friend, and know that Jesus Christ suffered in the flesh as well, therefore He identifies with us in our suffering.
Blessings to you, my friend.
@@j4blaser its not tht simple bro if u knew what we r going through u would not say such foolish words. In fact your words are that of a snakes...
*I have so much pain frequent thoughts of giving up, I can't take the pain. Recent failed back surgery, cervical and SI surgery's needed. I pray Jesus takes my pets and I home. My whole spine is messed up and no pain help. I understand why people take their lives, the pain is too great. God have mercy on us.*
So sorry to hear what you’re going through just started in August to have severe pain in my back Osteo arthritis, and of the feet agonizing every day. No relief until I sleep. I hope God‘s work helps you some. I go to bed with the scriptures because it’s too much, God bless you
I too understand the suicide option. I've been in chronic pain for 21 years. I think if God didn't provide help from my parents I would have to commit suicide. I'm incapable of making an income and have no more friends.
I have been with excruciating pains in my head which doesn't respond to prayer or any medication. Lord have mercy on me 😢😢😢
God doesn't answer me or heal me either. I don't know either dude
Same here. I have debilitating migraines 24/7 for 7 years now and I sometimes wonder why God wouldn’t want us physically healthy enough to study his word, witness to others, etc. Unless our pain and faith will be enough. I can only listen to the word but it’s hard to concentrate. If this suffering produces glory to him and saves us it will be worth it. I feel like sometimes the pain is literal torture
Thank you, Pastor. I too have debilitating pain. All of my connective soft tissue is in a constant state of deterioration, and after enduring 11 surgeries, I am about to go in for my 12th surgery where I have to have 4 more of my vertebrae in my neck fused.
I struggle with pain every minute of every day, but I know that my Redeemer lives.
The pain has made me let loose of my hold on this world and embrace the hope of glory.
I hate the pain, but I love the Lord. I do not blame the Lord for the pain, I praise Him for being with ne through the pain.
I love you, Pastor. Thank you...
I know exactly how you feel Michael. I am going in a couple weeks to have discs removed from my neck vertebra because I also have shooting nerve pain from my spine almost every waking minute keeping me bedridden. I know just how you feel and how hard it is to endure this.
@@patrickbarnes9874 Patrick, I'll be praying for you. God bless you, my brother in Christ.
I hear you...going through crazy pain severe for decades, homebound last 10. Upside has me acknowledging the Lord more clearly, day by day. I hope this finds you doing better.🙏✨
I hear you I have Ehlers-danlos and I'm struggling with this
@@mikatricktricken kristen,I don't know what Ehlers-dandos is, but I pray that the Lord would heal you in Jesus's Name.
God bless you.
I suffer from rheumatoid arthritis and the pain is unbearable. Please heal me Lord. Why did you send me these 3 daughters if you knew this would be my life. Pray for me. Thank you.
I’m praying for you. I just want my body to function well enough so I can work to take care of my family and play with my kids. It’s not like I’m out here on the streets needing a healthy body to do evil. Im beginning to hate life
This is a hard one to swallow, considering the fact that I have Neurofibromastosis, and fibromyalgia. I hurt everyday. My life is already miserable because I lost my job a year ago, and dealing with this pain has made it worse. I will try to have a better attitude after hearing what I just heard but, I’m ready for it to all end.
God is with you through all
I'm so sorry that you're going through this. I do wish God will heal you in His time.
I have a video that might help for your condition since I too suffer with some health issues so I use this channel
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If you have not overcome sin and sickness in your life then you are a deceived believer who does not understand the blessing that Jesus provided for you.
Most believers do not understand that sickness comes from sin and the devil and they possess sickness in their life since they are sinners who are deceived in their beliefs. So if you currently have an affliction or you are someone who can get sick then you clearly are living in sin and you certainly are not a Christian. You may foolishly believe otherwise but your sin and your sickness is definitely proving that you are a deceived believer who lacks knowledge of scripture since you did not understand the blessing that Jesus provided for you and you did not learn how to overcome your sin and your sicknesses.
I am a sanctified disciple of Jesus Christ who can no longer sin nor can I ever get sick and Jesus has given me wisdom about scripture that very very few will ever possess. Realize that there is not even one scripture where God ever stated that a person who possesses sin and sickness in their life is His child so if you can still sin and you can still get sick then you definitely are not a child of God. Scripture clearly relates that if you do sin then you are of the devil and if you have afflictions then you are a sinner who does not know God.
“He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.”
I John 3:8 NKJV
Very few believers truly understand scripture and this is why only a remnant will be saved since most believers are completely deceived in their beliefs and they will perish in their sin and their ignorance of truth. Most do not even understand the difference between a Believer, a Disciple, a Christian and a Apostle and so I will now explain.
“Isaiah also cries out concerning Israel: “Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, The remnant will be saved.”
Romans 9:27 NKJV
We are all born in sin and in ignorance of God’s word and truth. When you first repent of your sins and you accept Jesus into your life you are now a believer but you are still deceived and ignorant about scripture since you have never been sanctified in truth by the Holy Spirit. This is why a believer will still possesses sin and sickness in their life since they still lack knowledge in the word of God.
Once a believer accepts Jesus into their life they were then commanded to surrender their will to the Holy Spirit so the Spirt could now teach them how to stop sinning. This purification process is called sanctification and it can only be achieved by understanding how to test the Spirits as commanded in 1 John 4. Sanctification takes years and it requires our faith, patience, suffering and endurance since the Holy Spirit teaches us how to overcome our sins. Once we learn how to overcome our sins we now have overcome our sicknesses since afflictions come from sin and the devil. Sadly the vast majority of believers never allow this process to occur since they are deceived in their beliefs and so they remain in their sin and their ignorance their entire lives. Others will actually fall away during the sanctification process just as Judas certainly did and Jesus relates these various believers in the parable of the sower in Luke 8:11-15. Not many believers actually make it through God’s sanctification process and this is why it is referred to as the narrow gate.
“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.”
Matthew 7:13-14 NKJV
If a believer does surrender their will to God’s purification process they now become a disciple since they are now learning scripture directly from Jesus Himself. Jesus will now teach His disciple how to live just as He did since He now dwells inside His true children. A disciple means “a student who learns from his teacher.” This is why scripture relates that Jesus is our one and only teacher and this is also why the vast majority of religions and preachers are nothing more then false prophets who are only leading believers astray.
It is during the sanctification process that the Holy Spirit teaches us how to live holy and righteously just as God commanded and He does this by showing us how to overcome our sins. Sanctification is kind of similar to what Jesus endured in the wilderness for 40 days since the Spirit has us confront the devil’s temptations head on. If you end up completing God’s purification process you are now a Christian who is sanctified in truth and you are a disciple of Jesus Christ who can no longer sin. This is when you are actually born again since a child born of God is someone who lives “exactly like Christ” and they do not sin. This is how the term Christian came about since the original disciples lived exactly like Christ.
Most overlook how Jesus had to train his twelve chosen disciples for three years before they could become His apostles. An apostle means someone who is sent, a messenger. Many overlook the prayer that Jesus made for His disciples in John 17:6-19 where He asked His Father to sanctify His disciples in truth. So the disciples had to be sanctified in truth before Jesus could use them as His apostles, His messengers. So an apostle is someone who is a messenger from God and they possess the power of God to prove their anointment.
Realize that God did not instruct us or command us to explain scripture to anyone but yet most are foolishly believing that it is their duty to try and lead others to Jesus. Many deceived believers do not understand that the Great Commission was for God’s chosen disciples who were trained by Jesus and who were sanctified in God’s truth. It was not meant for every believer of Jesus Christ to teach and that is simply a lie that is being fabricated by the devil’s many false ministers. So you might now begin to understand why the majority of believers are nothing more then children of the devil since they are ignorantly blaspheming the Spirit of truth when they willingly relate their misguided beliefs. These ignorant souls are simply spreading lies and condemning themselves since they were never taught scripture by Jesus nor where they sanctified in God’s truth.
“It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.”
John 6:45 NKJV
”My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment. For we all stumble in many things. If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body.”
James 3:1-2 NKJV
Many believers are ignorantly believing that Jesus came to forgive our past, present and future sins. This spoken untruth is having people believe that they can continue in a life of sin and then simply repent and God will forgive them over and over. This is why many believe that if they repent just before they die then Jesus will save their sinful soul. This twisted reasoning would mean that you can continue to steal and then simply repent. You can then lie and then repent. You can then murder and simply repent. You can keep committing whatever sin you desire and simply repent afterwards and you will always be forgiven. This is simply nonsense that is fabricated by the devil to make you believe that you will always sin.
“Jesus answered and said to them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
Luke 5:31-32 NKJV
Jesus did not come to call on the righteous since a righteous person does not sin. Jesus came to call sinners to repentance which meant for sinners to stop sinning entirely and to start living holy and righteously just as God commanded. Jesus came to forgive us of the sins that we have already committed and this occurs at the moment that we repent of our sins and we accept Jesus and His Holy Spirit into our life. We must then submit to God’s purification process and allow the Holy Spirit to sanctify our heart in God’s truth so that we could overcome the sin and the sicknesses that we possess in our lives. Once again this can only be achieved by understanding how to test the Spirits as commanded in 1 John 4.
So a Christian is someone who is sanctified in truth and they can easily discern a true Christian from a deceived believer in seconds since they now possess the mind of Christ and they are able to judge all things. They can no longer sin nor can they ever get sick since they are now born of God and the devil can no longer touch them with his afflictions. I have overcome sin and sickness in my own life and this is why God has me relating His blessings in my writings and in my videos.
“These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. For “who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.”
I Corinthians 2:13-16 NKJV
“We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.”
I John 5:18 NKJV
There is no sickness with God and there is no sickness for the true children of God since a child of God can no longer sin.
Sin and sickness is strictly of the devil and you will only find sin and sickness in unbelievers and deceived believers since they are children of the devil who do not either understand or they do not believe what scripture is relating.
The children of the devil often try to use 1 John 1:8-1O or Romans 3:10, 3:23 and 7 in order to try and justify the sin that they possess in their wicked life. When they do they clearly prove that they have no idea what these scripture are relating or what they even mean.
First in Romans 7 Paul is simply relating how he was a sinner until He was freed by knowing Christ and these deceived souls clearly overlooked how Paul related that he had died to sin and was no longer a slave to sin in Romans 6. The other scriptures are simply relating that everyone is born in sin and ignorance and so this is why mankind falls short of the glory of God since they are not living righteously. These scriptures are relating that this is why we need to repent and confess our sins to God so that He will then forgive us. They also relate that anyone who believes that they have never sinned is then calling God a liar. But nowhere are any of these scriptures ever stating that a believer will always sin as the children of the devil desire to believe. Anyone who tries to use these scripture in order to justify the sin that they possess in their life proves that they are a deceived believer who is a sinner and they belong to the devil.
“He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.”
I John 3:8 NKJV
There is not one scripture that ever states that a child of God will sin or will have sickness in their life. There is not one scripture that ever states that a believer will always sin or can never stop sinning. There is not one scripture that ever states that a Christian who is a child of God will possess sickness in their life or states that sickness is a normal part of this life.
Scripture clearly relates that if you truly follow God and you are His child then you cannot sin and this is why God will not allow the devil to touch you with sickness and disease since God will remove them from your life.
“Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.”
I John 3:9 NKJV
“We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.”
I John 5:18 NKJV
“So you shall serve the LORD your God, and He will bless your bread and your water. And I will take sickness away from the midst of you. No one shall suffer miscarriage or be barren in your land; I will fulfill the number of your days.”
Exodus 23:25-26 NKJV
“And said, “If you diligently heed the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in His sight, give ear to His commandments and keep all His statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you which I have brought on the Egyptians. For I am the LORD who heals you.”
Exodus 15:26 NKJV
“And the LORD will take away from you all sickness, and will afflict you with none of the terrible diseases of Egypt which you have known, but will lay them on all those who hate you.”
Deuteronomy 7:15 NKJV
Scripture also relates that it is your sin that is allowing sickness to enter your life.
“But the one who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, a multitude being in that place. Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.”
John 5:13-14 NKJV
Psalm 107:17. “Fools, because of their transgression, And because of their iniquities, were afflicted.”
Know what this means? First transgression, it means an act that goes against a rule, a law or a code of conduct. Next iniquity, it means a wicked act or thing, sin. Finally, affliction, it means something that causes persistent pain or suffering. Translated it is saying that you are a fool if you do not follow God’s laws and commands and you go and sin because you will then have pain, suffering and sickness.
So all of this proves that the children of the devil will certainly try to twist scripture in order to justify the sin and the sicknesses that they possess in their life because they do not want to admit that they are deceived in their beliefs and they are not children of God.
To try and justify their afflictions some will claim that Paul’s thorn in the flesh was a sickness. For some reason many of these fools desire to believe that Paul possessed sickness and had bad eyesight. Acts 19 and 28 relates how Paul was able to remove the sickness from everyone who came to him so what could possibly make these deceived believers think that he was someone who had sickness in his life? Couldn’t Paul just remove the sickness from himself as he did with those who came to him for healing? Plus if Paul was bitten by a venomous snake and yet it did him no harm how could anyone possibly believe that Paul was someone who could then get sick himself?
These sinners also try to claim that the apostles were sinners themselves. Now did the apostles live in sin at some time in their life? They most definitely did since everyone is born in sin and in ignorance of truth. But the apostles were believers who allowed Jesus to sanctify their heart in God’s truth and they learned how to overcome their sins. This is why God then used them as His messengers and He gave them His power to heal. Read John 17:6-19 where Jesus prayed for their sanctification.
Many others try to manipulate what John 9:3, 1 Timothy 5:23, Galatians 4:13 and Philippians 2:26 are relating in order to explain the sicknesses they possess in their sinful lives. Some will even try and use Job and others from the Old Covenant to justify their sicknesses. When these deceived believers try to use anyone from the Old Covenant they certainly reveal their complete ignorance of scripture. Scripture relates that Job was a righteous man but what they clearly overlook is that we are all born in sin and ignorance and this included Job. Even though Job lived righteously he still possessed sin since there was no forgiveness of sins under the Old Covenant since Jesus had not arrived yet. Lastly, some will simply claim that sin has nothing to do with sickness and they deny the very words spoken by Jesus Himself.
“But the one who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, a multitude being in that place. Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.”
John 5:13-14 NKJV
So if you are a believer who can still sin or who can still get sick then you do not know Jesus at all and you certainly do not understand scripture or the blessing that Jesus provided for all of mankind. You are simply a deceived believer who is a child of Lucifer since you have clearly fallen for the devil’s lies in regards to scripture and what it is relating.
Of course it’s hard to swallow! It’s not biblical!! Listen to your spirit telling you that. Romans 8, James 1. Suffering can be used by God to test our faith and grow us, but he’s not glorified in it?!?!
We have our future glory to look forward to and the whole world groans for redemption waiting for it. The fall is the cause for all suffering, but John Piper teaches God is. Not biblical at all. Go to the scriptures, get away from these terrible philosophical teachings. God bless you, I’ll pray for healing for you. God is with you
I was run over by a forklift I'm in Chronic pain and suffer from depression . I realize today if we knew the power of suffering and the reward from it not in this world but in the next .We wouldn't complain ! but it's not easy at all .I do offer my pain to Christ alot .That's all we can do .
Thank you for sharing this. 🙏🏽
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@@EC-yd9yv thank you
@@thomasduff1571 Love you brotha, God adores you. Jesus Adores you! Hold strong of your faith brotha! you are not alone!
Thomas, because we live in the here and now, sometimes it's hard to look past our pain and suffering.
I thank our wonderful God and Savior that the Holy Spirit enables us to look forward, past the pain, and He gives us the hope of eternal glory that awaits us in Christ Jesus, our Lord.
Those of us that suffer are given a gift that many don't understand and rewards that follow.
My friend suffers daily from a chronic illness. The feeling is like someone is constantly stabbing her with a knife. She can't afford treatment that could save her life she can barely walk sometimes. She gave her life to God and helped so many women and men. 20 years of extreme suffering. Why didn't God provide for her needs to have enough finances to get treatment. When you seek His righteousness and His Kingdom he provides all our needs? She has been begging God for healing from this chronic illness and pain and the illness is attacking her more and her suffering is worse. And there are people who don't care about God and are sinners that are healthy and living their best life. Life is so unfair. And it hurts me to know I can't help my friend get better. For her to never feel pain again as she is in pain daily. I don't get God. God heals and yet I don't see her being healed after years of her begging and crying for God to take away her suffering
I think all of this God heals stuff is just bullshit. I really do.
@@THXx1138 why is it bullshit? Do you even believe in God?
I’m bipolar and have suffered for years. I pray to God to heal me
Hey my lil sis is bi polar and she is on fire for jesus hes the awnswer he may not heal u in this life but he will carry you and always will, i have eupd and fibromyalgia its really hard but he will never fail us x he loves you x
You're not alone, I too suffer, and
have for decades
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How can we glorify God and be able to worship and be good people to others if we’re suffering so much we can hardly think straight. I have a very hard time understanding this. Suffering can lead to depression.
What does a blade of grass know compared to a man and times that beyond any number you could imagine and you can maybe speak to the lower Angel.
Stop the ego and love thy Lord
I understand I have been through and asked the same thing a thousand times. "Lord, how can I serve you and give you glory when I'm so sick I can't even function? Or think straight?" Then I remembered the scripture that says "The Joy of the Lord is my Strength". I then told God that there's nothing I can to in my power to fix this suffering but I ask for your Joy to keep me going. Now I am much more peaceful and happy because he gave me his Joy. I am still suffering but I now have hope that eventually I will be free from it. And a peace to get me through it. I was literally at the edge. I was going to give up on my life and was feeling like ending it all.
I completely understand and ask myself the very same question.
I have nerve damage in my neck and back from childhood abuse; God let’s me rest and listen to your sermons and my body pain ceases for most of the day. God allows the suffering, but I’m given more rest and comfort. Praise be to the almighty Father. All glory.
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I woke up one day in 1996 & my lower back hurt so bad I couldn't get out of bed for a week. Each year the pain continued to spread. Now I am bedridden. The pain is so horrible I pray everyday God will heal me & lessen my pain. 16 prescriptions, ice packs, lidocaine patches, etc. Everyday we try everything. I know my Heavenly Father loves me, hears all my prayers & answers all my prayers. My God is my maker & whatever decision He makes is right, true, holy, and correct. I bow to His decisions. I bow to whatever He decides because He is ALWAYS right!! Whether I am in pain or not in pain... my Creator is always right! I love you Father God & trust in you because you made me and love me! Jesus please come soon and tell me what I can do for you to tell about the good news of your glory!
This sermon could only be written by someone who has not been subjected to unrelieved pain. I do not wish pain on anything. I do wish you would gain sympathy and mercy for those who do.
I live with chronic pain disorders. No matter what I do to minimize it nothing works. Seems like all the evil people who are destroying other peoples lives are living their great lives. And the people who are living in chronic pain are loosing time with their families and loosing their security. And eventually they are out on the streets defending their lives and praying to god that they don’t starve to death or possibly loose their lives. Which eventually leads to drug and alcohol abuse. While the people who are living the free life rather laugh and spit in the faces of the ones who suffer.
David also witnessed the same thing. It makes no sense until you see the eternal perspective.
Psalm 73:
1 Surely God is good to Israel,
to those who are pure in heart.
2 But as for me, my feet had almost slipped;
I had nearly lost my foothold.
3 For I envied the arrogant
when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.
4 They have no struggles;
their bodies are healthy and strong.
5 They are free from common human burdens;
they are not plagued by human ills.
6 Therefore pride is their necklace;
they clothe themselves with violence.
7 From their callous hearts comes iniquity;
their evil imaginations have no limits.
8 They scoff, and speak with malice;
with arrogance they threaten oppression.
9 Their mouths lay claim to heaven,
and their tongues take possession of the earth.
10 Therefore their people turn to them
and drink up waters in abundance.
11 They say, “How would God know?
Does the Most High know anything?”
12 This is what the wicked are like-
always free of care, they go on amassing wealth.
13 Surely in vain I have kept my heart pure
and have washed my hands in innocence.
14 All day long I have been afflicted,
and every morning brings new punishments.
15 If I had spoken out like that,
I would have betrayed your children.
16 When I tried to understand all this,
it troubled me deeply
17 till I entered the sanctuary of God;
then I understood their final destiny.
18 Surely you place them on slippery ground;
you cast them down to ruin.
19 How suddenly are they destroyed,
completely swept away by terrors!
20 They are like a dream when one awakes;
when you arise, Lord,
you will despise them as fantasies.
21 When my heart was grieved
and my spirit embittered,
22 I was senseless and ignorant;
I was a brute beast before you.
23 Yet I am always with you;
you hold me by my right hand.
24 You guide me with your counsel,
and afterward you will take me into glory.
25 Whom have I in heaven but you?
And earth has nothing I desire besides you.
26 My flesh and my heart may fail,
but God is the strength of my heart
and my portion forever.
27 Those who are far from you will perish;
you destroy all who are unfaithful to you.
28 But as for me, it is good to be near God.
I have made the Sovereign Lord my refuge;
I will tell of all your deeds.
so sorry for all suffering, I know excruciating paie, soul, body, mind....it's makes me surrender all to Christ Jesus, we will only know in part.... He is our Vine, our sauce of life, even to make it through pain, persecution etc we bring it all to Jesus, who carries our burdans daily...
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I realize something: I no nothing of sharp, chronic pain. It is easy to write these things, say them to others in pain. I think we learn something far different when suffering such pain.
Yep.
One time when I was in high school, there was a girl who was pretty, but she had eczema on her hands.
I clearly recall thinking in my head, " Thank God I don't have that. "
A few years later, guess what happened?
What I learned: God does hear your thoughts .
I suffer chronic pain now, in addition to eczema. I never pretend to understand what pain someone else is in.
Or expect others to understand mine. I thank God for the moments of relief. He is Loving and tender, no matter how I feel.
I usually play the reading of the Psalms when suffering.
I have had four back surgeries and have suffered horrible debilitating pain. I am now doing better than I was due to finding a medicine that is very strong, but I get some relief. It took a long time to get to that point. I think the only one who can really answer this question is those who have been there and gotten past it or have learned to live with it. It is too easy for someone to say "This is God's will for your life," when they are not in pain themselves. I agree and disagree with this video.
Chronic pain changes your thinking and changes everything about you even if you are the most devout Christian on this earth. With that said, I believe if you keep praying and asking God for help, he will eventually help you. It might take years of suffering before a solution is given, but don't give up. I have to exercise 5 to 6 times per week or I get where I can't move and become more crippled and my pain increases. Don't give up is my answer, but don't live with it either because that is not living. That is my answer. Disagree if you want to, but since I have lived it and still live it I am able to answer that question more than someone who is a preacher but does not live in pain on a daily basis. I still live in some pain every day, but it is enough where I have hope for a better life! God bless!
Glad you were able to get meds needed... I have been home bound from pain/sickness for decades. No drug issues yet, no strong meds since opiate crisis. Any tips?! Wishing you the best🙏
@@EC-yd9yv What is your particular medical problem? How long have you had it? What do you take or do to help alleviate your pain? I could offer a lot of tips, but it would be good knowing a little bit about your particular situation first. Prayers!!!
@@lindavangalder879 hi. Just seeing this. I have many spine issues, failed neck fusion, spondylitis, spondylosis the list goes on , fibromyalgia, severe fatigue fractured tailbone chronic pulsating headaches since the failed fusion surgery..
I hop this finds you doing better 🙏✨
Severe pain. Anchoring faith in Jesus!
I'm sorry , listening to that man about chronic pain , walk a mile in my shoes with a syatic nerve pain down one leg you can't hardly put any weight on it at all & it stops you in your tracks & you have to rest where your at for about ten mins till it settles down before you can walk again , or wake up feeling like 2 toes are on fire !!! Then talk to me about pain.. have a nice day folks, God bless..
Great message Pastor John, I think the fact that we will be glorified in heaven for the suffering we endure on earth, is a great hope!
Amen
@@johnpiper273 You have no fear of God my friend. You not only impersonate, you do it with the name of God. Identity theft is a crime. And more so, a sin before God. Repent.
Lord please keep me faithful through this pain. ❤
God be glorified amidst all suffering and even during testing times.
This is easier said than done. Life shouldn't be like this. We didn't ask to be here, to be created to come forth into this world. God put us here knowing very well what would happen but we ad humans are to blame. We will never win
Worship and obedience offered in the midst of pain and loss is a mighty testimony and of great worth in God's eyes. Jesus knew that he had to suffer. Yet he still asked for a different cup to the one he received, and still he obeyed.
Why could there be no other way? My human mind thinks- with such a powerful God, couldn’t have all the pain been avoided? Why???
Thank you so much for this! I have been suffering from chronic back and knee pain for going on 6 years now. I don't even remember what it feels like to not be in pain. Despite losing 50lbs (I have 100 more to go) and working on getting healthier and stronger, the reduction in my pain has been minimal. I am grateful that most days it is manageable. Most importantly, I refuse to blame God or forsake my faith. This response is so encouraging to me.
Nice to know there are people, who have not let bitterness, ruin their lives. After 30 years, I have destroyed my life with bitterness.
@@shakedydogshake it's even harder to deal with now. My husband died last month. I moved from our home in TX (the last 4.5 years) to live with my parents in CA.
@@smileywolf sorry to hear so Meg. Praying for you now
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Praise God!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What an encouraging message. Thank you.
I have no chronic pain, but I have such a negative, pessimistic, and depressing view of life. All it is is loneliness, suffering, and all-around awful. Light an momentary affliction doesn't begin to cover it. I honestly find it difficult to want to go on living. If all I have to look forward to is pain, although I may not experience it now, I know I will experience it in the future. This makes me contemplate the love of God a lot, yes the Bible said Jesus died for us and that he loves us, but that l9ve hardly ever makes itself evident in our individual lives. How are we to have hope when all we do is suffer, God are we to glorify God when all the Christian walk produces is weakness, pain, and constant expectation looming over you like an atom bomb.
I was glad I watched this video. I was enlightened on how our pains glorify God. I will keep this in my heart each time I encounter suffering.
These circumstances bring Job's story to mind. Satan sought to prove Job's faith as shallow, that if God's loving protection and blessings were removed, Job would curse God, even to His face. Yet in all his suffering, though Job lamented of even being born, he did not curse God and thereby God was vindicated and glorified. In our suffering we can glorify God by doing as Job did and saying "though He slay me, yet will I trust in Him". I hope and pray for such faith.
"In our suffering we can glorify God by doing as Job did and saying "though He slay me, yet will I trust in Him". I hope and pray for such faith." Yes Nickolas, Father give us the Faith of Job to continue to trust you in what you have told us are light and temporary afflictions here.🙏 I Love the Chuck Missler quote. "God is going to ask you the same question every day, do you trust Him"? Bless you dear one and standing with you.
I guess job is a better man than me because I will never worship a piece of shit who would allow such constant suffering
I am in chronic pain all the time what makes me so special to deserve chronic pain. How is this glorifying god give me a break.
I’m starting to feel the same way. I suffer from debilitating chronic pain that barely allows me to do my own personal basic necessities. I live alone and have no family around. I’ve always had faith in God and believe in Jesus Christ as my lord and savior but I feel that the closer I try getting to God the worst my physical pain becomes. I’m becoming bitter and angry and losing my faith. Starting to feel like all this faith stuff is a joke and makes no sense. I hate to even have to write this but I’m so upset 😭
It’s all a bunch of nonsense because people need an answer to justify all this, otherwise they will realize it’s all in vain and their psyche can’t handle it. It’s one big comforting circle jerk, but I know better. The world is absurd, and if I kill myself because I’m sick of all this crap, then so be it
Thank you so much for this clear and powerful explanation. In addition to severe bouts of arthritis/joint pain and eye inflammation, I suffer from idiopathic small fiber polyneuropathy, from head to toe, which adversely affects my quality of life and challenges my faith. I sought out biblical answers to clarify why I suffer this painful, debilitating condition without any identifiable cause or affective relief in sight. Who knows why I've also suffered various physical and emotional traumas/insults since childhood?! I wanted to know if this was punishment for something, for previous sins and/or some unrecognized and unrepentant sin(s) perhaps. The story of Job always encourages me that often God chooses servants to suffer in a way that proves the unwavering faithfulness of His children. Yet there are temptations to blame oneself and/or wallow in self pity, especially when we feel no one cares and there's no benefit. This episode affirms that God not only knows and cares about our pain - whatever they may be - but He uses it to strengthen our reliance and trust in Him to His glory. Indeed, when we are faithful to God despite our suffering, we declare to the world that no matter what, we love the Lord. I pray for healing and comfort for each of you. God bless you.
Anyone struggling with chronic pain or anything else, first thing I'd think is to direct then to Joni Eareckson Tada's talks.
That woman is deceived and she knows nothing about God. There is no sickness or disabilities with God and there is no sickness for the true children of God since a child of God can no longer sin.
Sin and sickness is strictly of the devil and you will only find sin and sickness in unbelievers and deceived believers since they are children of the devil who do not either understand or they do not believe what scripture is relating.
The children of the devil often try to use 1 John 1:8-1O or Romans 3:10, 3:23 and 7 in order to try and justify the sin that they possess in their wicked life. When they do they clearly prove that they have no idea what these scripture are relating or what they even mean.
First in Romans 7 Paul is simply relating how he was a sinner until He was freed by knowing Christ and these deceived souls clearly overlooked how Paul related that he had died to sin and was no longer a slave to sin in Romans 6. The other scriptures are simply relating that everyone is born in sin and ignorance and so this is why mankind falls short of the glory of God since they are not living righteously. These scriptures are relating that this is why we need to repent and confess our sins to God so that He will then forgive us. They also relate that anyone who believes that they have never sinned is then calling God a liar. But nowhere are any of these scriptures ever stating that a believer will always sin as the children of the devil desire to believe. Anyone who tries to use these scripture in order to justify the sin that they possess in their life proves that they are a deceived believer who is a sinner and they belong to the devil.
“He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.”
I John 3:8 NKJV
There is not one scripture that ever states that a child of God will sin or will have sickness in their life. There is not one scripture that ever states that a believer will always sin or can never stop sinning. There is not one scripture that ever states that a Christian who is a child of God will possess sickness in their life or states that sickness is a normal part of this life.
Scripture clearly relates that if you truly follow God and you are His child then you cannot sin and this is why God will not allow the devil to touch you with sickness and disease since God will remove them from your life.
“Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.”
I John 3:9 NKJV
“We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.”
I John 5:18 NKJV
“So you shall serve the LORD your God, and He will bless your bread and your water. And I will take sickness away from the midst of you. No one shall suffer miscarriage or be barren in your land; I will fulfill the number of your days.”
Exodus 23:25-26 NKJV
“And said, “If you diligently heed the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in His sight, give ear to His commandments and keep all His statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you which I have brought on the Egyptians. For I am the LORD who heals you.”
Exodus 15:26 NKJV
“And the LORD will take away from you all sickness, and will afflict you with none of the terrible diseases of Egypt which you have known, but will lay them on all those who hate you.”
Deuteronomy 7:15 NKJV
Scripture also relates that it is your sin that is allowing sickness to enter your life.
“But the one who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, a multitude being in that place. Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.”
John 5:13-14 NKJV
Psalm 107:17. “Fools, because of their transgression, And because of their iniquities, were afflicted.”
Know what this means? First transgression, it means an act that goes against a rule, a law or a code of conduct. Next iniquity, it means a wicked act or thing, sin. Finally, affliction, it means something that causes persistent pain or suffering. Translated it is saying that you are a fool if you do not follow God’s laws and commands and you go and sin because you will then have pain, suffering and sickness.
So all of this proves that the children of the devil will certainly try to twist scripture in order to justify the sin and the sicknesses that they possess in their life because they do not want to admit that they are deceived in their beliefs and they are not children of God.
To try and justify their afflictions some will claim that Paul’s thorn in the flesh was a sickness. For some reason many of these fools desire to believe that Paul possessed sickness and had bad eyesight. Acts 19 and 28 relates how Paul was able to remove the sickness from everyone who came to him so what could possibly make these deceived believers think that he was someone who had sickness in his life? Couldn’t Paul just remove the sickness from himself as he did with those who came to him for healing? Plus if Paul was bitten by a venomous snake and yet it did him no harm how could anyone possibly believe that Paul was someone who could then get sick himself?
These sinners also try to claim that the apostles were sinners themselves. Now did the apostles live in sin at some time in their life? They most definitely did since everyone is born in sin and in ignorance of truth. But the apostles were believers who allowed Jesus to sanctify their heart in God’s truth and they learned how to overcome their sins. This is why God then used them as His messengers and He gave them His power to heal. Read John 17:6-19 where Jesus prayed for their sanctification.
Many others try to manipulate what John 9:3, 1 Timothy 5:23, Galatians 4:13 and Philippians 2:26 are relating in order to explain the sicknesses they possess in their sinful lives. Some will even try and use Job and others from the Old Covenant to justify their sicknesses. When these deceived believers try to use anyone from the Old Covenant they certainly reveal their complete ignorance of scripture. Scripture relates that Job was a righteous man but what they clearly overlook is that we are all born in sin and ignorance and this included Job. Even though Job lived righteously he still possessed sin since there was no forgiveness of sins under the Old Covenant since Jesus had not arrived yet. Lastly, some will simply claim that sin has nothing to do with sickness and they deny the very words spoken by Jesus Himself.
“But the one who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, a multitude being in that place. Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.”
John 5:13-14 NKJV
So if you are a believer who can still sin or who can still get sick then you do not know Jesus at all and you certainly do not understand scripture or the blessing that Jesus provided for all of mankind. You are simply a deceived believer who is a child of Lucifer since you have clearly fallen for the devil’s lies in regards to scripture and what it is relating.
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@@AlanaL3 sounds like you've not even listened to what she has said. And yes God can be glorified despite our pain and use our pain. Otherwise you are basically saying our pain is meaningless. Joni does talk about how God does feel for us as well, but He has also ordained all things for His greatest glory. God uses all things for good for those who love Him. (Romans 8:28) I feel a bit sad that you seem so angry towards "Calvinism".
@ no fool the nonsense simply comes from you. There are many deceived believers who are children of the devil and they will take a scripture like 1 John 1:8-10 and they will twist its meaning to claim that a believer can never stop sinning.
“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.”
I John 1:8-10 NKJV
These people are so lost and misguided that they believe that this scripture is relating that a believer will always sin. These fools cannot comprehend that this scripture is simply stating that everyone is born a sinner since we are all born in sin and ignorance of truth. It is saying that this is why we need to repent and confess our sins to God so that He will then forgive us. It is also stating that anyone who believes that they have never sinned is then calling God a liar. But nowhere is this scripture ever relating that a believer will always sin as the children of the devil desire to believe.
There is not one scripture that ever states that a believer will always continue to sin. Only people who are deceived think that a believer can never stop sinning and that God will just forgive them for all the sins that they commit. A Christian is someone who is a follower of Christ which means they are living “exactly like Christ” and they do not sin. There are many scriptures that use terms like, do not sin, has died to sin, has ceased from sin, cannot keep on sinning and cannot sin. All of these terms are used when describing a follower of Christ and this is why only the children of the devil would believe that they can never stop sinning.
Here is what deceived believers are clearly missing. Yes we are all born in sin and we have all sinned but this does not mean that a believer can never stop sinning. Jesus came to forgive us of the sins that we have already committed and this occurs at the moment that we repent of our sins and we accept Jesus and His Holy Spirit into our life. Once we receive His Holy Spirit we were then commanded to surrender our will to God so that we would allow the Spirit to sanctify our heart in God’s truth. Sadly this is where the majority of believers fail and go astray because they never allow this process to occur since they do not understand how to test the Spirits as instructed in 1 John 4.
Many are ignorantly believing that Jesus came to forgive our past, present and future sins. This spoken untruth is having people believe that they can continue in a life of sin and then simply repent and God will forgive them over and over. This is why many believe that if they repent just before they die then Jesus will save their sinful soul. This twisted reasoning would mean that you can continue to steal and then simply repent. You can then lie and then repent. You can then murder and simply repent. You can keep committing whatever sin you desire and simply repent afterwards and you will always be forgiven. This is simply nonsense that is fabricated by the devil to make you believe that you will always sin. Jesus came to call sinners to repentance since we are all born in sin. This meant for us to stop sinning entirely and to start living holy and righteously just as God commanded.
“Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.””
John 5:14 NKJV
“We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.”
I John 5:18 NKJV
“But as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, because it is written, “Be holy, for I am holy.”
I Peter 1:15-16 NKJV
“Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.”
Matthew 5:48 NKJV
“To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.”
Revelation 3:21 NKJV
“And He said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
Revelation 21:6-8 NKJV
He who overcomes will inherit all things but anyone who continues in sin will only take part in the lake of fire. So if you do not overcome sin then you will never experience a sick free life in this fallen world nor might you be spending your eternity in heaven.
“Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him. Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.”
I John 3:4-9 NKJV
So scripture clearly states that whoever sins does not know God, so that is you. Whoever sins is of the devil, that is also then you! Whoever abides in God and is born of God cannot sin and does not sin, this is me! Anyone who believes that they can never stop sinning is simply a deceived believer who does not understand a thing about scripture or the blessing that Jesus provided for all of mankind.
@ Yes, and another relevant text is James 3:2:
'For we all stumble in many ways.'
In this verse stumbling refers to committing unpremeditated sins of short duration. And James is clear that we all do this.
I would expect that anyone who says they literally don't sin at all is actually - and very ironically - guilty of the sin of arrogance.
I am 13. My pain started at very late 11. I have a couple headaches every single day, struggle to stand a couple times every single day, etc. u get it, just pain. God has blessed me with two parents who believe my pain 🙌 I am so grateful for that! 😁 I’m so afraid that no one believes me I had a nightmare bout that 2 days ago. Let me tell u all the blessings my pain has brought me! I can spot my sin so much easier than before! I worship God truly! I am closer to God! I am afraid tho. My pain started very small and now it’s this only after one year. I’m assuming it gets worse from here 😥 but I’m getting the gift of being with God for eternity 💃🙌 it’s very worth it for that tiny price 😂 id appreciate prayers to help me get closer to God! It’s a struggle 😅 Jesus loves you! ❤️🫶
All we can hope, is that the Lord, will have made all this, worth it.
Of course he has never doubt never.
When the woman that was bent over for 18 years Jesus saw her and set her free from the devil with a command to the devil to loosen her ! We must also give that command to the darkness of this world to loosen us and get out in the name of Jesus! Jesus gave us all power and authority over all the enemies! That’s why he gave us instructions to preach the gospel and he witnesses of him and do the signs and wonders He did! That’s why scripture reads that Jesus said you can do things I did and greater! Only believe in the name of Jesus!
Command Spirit of infirmity to leave your body in the name of Jesus
I have severe chronic tinnitus, an intense ringing in both ears. Can barely have a conversation. Not a day goes by when I don't hear this sharp sound. I fear that I'll go deaf one day. God, you are the great physician, but if I must stay like this, may I suffer well.
I deal with chronic sciatica pain and bad peripheral neuropathy in my left foot. I just cannot understand why God won't allow the insurance to easily and quickly approve the therapies all my doctors say I need. Even after this I am struggling with understanding chronic pain.
im on the same boat I pray that God will heal us this is absolutely miserable I feel like my heart is giving out
help us to glorify you Lord so we can withstand any pain
You can do this . Hold on to your faith . The Lord it with you . They doubt so they doubthed our Lord . Hold on be strong
Show me mercy Lord and grant me healing to your Glory!
I’ve been a very sickly person since birth. I just got diagnosed with a rare disease and apart from that I’m constantly getting sick. I’ve been in pain for the past five years I can’t run and some days I can barely walk. Someone asked me, “didn’t you say once, “I’d rather suffer young and live out my adult life happy.”” Which makes me think maybe this is why God is always having me Read Job. I’ve been through so much emotional pain I lost my mother and other painful experiences. At times I have asked God that if this is my life to please let me be with him,but that if there’s blessing on the other side of this then I will go on living. But even if there isn’t I will live until he asks me not too any longer because I love him. I definitely see that the sickness is glorifying God because through all the pain I cling closer to Him. When I’m in bed, in pain, all I can do is pray to Him and stay in His word. So everything you have said is absolutely correct and I needed a reminder of it. From the bottom of my heart thank you.
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If a fundamental truth of life is to suffer then I don’t see how it is moral to bring children in to this existence
Thank you so much for this message😭❤️
"Christ as greater gain than life" ❤️
I suffer from chronic pain to the point I am unable to function and am bedridden which keeps me from doing the things I want to do. How does this glorify God?, It angers me that these chronic pain physicians have the power to alleviate my pain but instead, they cut my pain medication in half due to fear of the DEA imprisoning them.
😭🙏 YES LORD! PLEASE TAKE AWAY HER PAIN & BRING TO HER EVEN MORE LOVE KNOWING ONLY YOU CAN & AS WITH PETER, BY DOING SO, ALSO REASSURE HER YOU KNOW SHE LOVES YOU WITH ALL HER HEART & YOU KNOW SHE WOULD... WILL, ENDURE UNTIL THE END. AMEN.
if anyone can answer me i appreciate it, i love God and Yes i believe He is good but after so many illness pain problems etc i start habing the famous question of why Gid allow our suffering if He can stop it why we keep having pains etc how do we keep the faith in times when God is silent ?
I’m interested to know if Pastor John suffers from chronic pain. I suffer from back, shoulders, and hip pain. I’m a Christian, yet I find no purpose for people who have to go through life in torment. I feel like Job and all I can do now is wait for the next ailment. I’ll be much better off when I’m dead.
Its been 20+years for me... I hear you, wishing the Lord will take me home soon. cares and prayers for you 🙏✨
You are not alone brotha. these thoughts drift in my head everyday, my life has been taken from me. It’s extremely difficult
My mother has been experiencing severe chronic nerve pain all her life too. I’ve wondered about this question
Yes Amen🙏healing for Jonas Murillo🙏
This might rate as the most challenging of teachings. Yet …
I have suffered for 40 years. The last 20 I have been mostly disabled in intractable pain.
Yet. .
God is not mocked by my pain. He consoles me in the worst of times and carries me through it.
I “offer it up.”
The devil scoffs and accuses.
I say, “be gone slimy one, in Jesus holy name.”
Heaven is waiting for us, and cheering us on.
Be joyful always
Pray continually
and be thankful in all circumstances.
For this is Gods will for us, in Christ Jesus.
- Thessalonians
The saying why do bad things happen to good people. Seems like the evil people have a clean bill of health.
That's because Satan already has them. He's more interested in tearing down God fearing, praying saved people. He goes overtime on us.
THANK YOU 🙏🏽
@@johnpiper273 the audacity of you using the author’s name and try to SCAM me in his very own page 😂. God have mercy on you.
You should have been born with handicaps and being mistreated by others. Growing up with those handicaps with all that pain and agony where there were no pain meds yet not available as a young child. Through my teens where I'd sit out in nature and cry from the agony I was going through. Yes I have a torchered mind from the terrible times I've gone through in my life. But through it all I have done much to help others even though I have been mistreated and spat apon as a child. My life has been hard but it's been worth it just the same.
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@@EC-yd9yv Good Morning Thank You for your kindness.
@@rickpasour565good morning just seeing your response. God bless...much love n care 💙🙏
Thank you I suffer extremely pain from neuropathy nerve pain really needed to hear this God you and thank you
I would like to have a transcript of this video. My mom was a Christian and this explains alot how she felt when she was hurting.
It’s a good thing that this teaching reaches all the denominations.
“Be joyful always,
pray continuously,
and be thankful in all circumstances.
For this is God’s will for us, in Christ Jesus.”
Why do Christians suffer? For more details, please watch the sermon of the Light of Wisdom Church, welcome everyone to study and discuss together. Video “Happiness Increases Greed, and Greed Increases Suffering ｜The Essence of Happiness & True Freedom 03”
If you think it makes sense, we must not only believe it ourselves, but also spread it to more people. Evangelism is not only the job of pastors, but also the responsibility of every believer. This is also the aspect that the Lord values most when ascending to the kingdom of heaven
So true.thank you Pastor Piper
Answered prayer glorifies God Matthew 15:30-31
GREATER IS HE THAT LIVES IN US THAN he That lives in the world
Why do Christians suffer? For more details, please watch the sermon of the Light of Wisdom Church, welcome everyone to study and discuss together. Video “Happiness Increases Greed, and Greed Increases Suffering ｜The Essence of Happiness & True Freedom 03
If you think it makes sense, we must not only believe it ourselves, but also spread it to more people. Evangelism is not only the job of pastors, but also the responsibility of every believer. This is also the aspect that the Lord values most when ascending to the kingdom of heaven.
It is so hard to take pain and anuse..
Pain from uncurable deceases and abused by our veloced ones. Anused by my father and by my children who I have worked hard for. Sometimes I believe my illneses are priduct of my mistakes in life. 🙏 AMEN.
Romans 8:18 reminds us that the sufferings of the present are incomparable to the glory that is to come. Chronic suffering can either weaken the body and soul in its unrelenting cyclical nature (if we doubt the immanence and sovereign power of God), or it can strengthen our faith if we know in Whom we believe (1 Tim 1:12), believers will always prevail as God has promised to chisel us though we tarry and doubt, that isn’t being presumptuous upon Gods will, that’s Gods word.
God didn’t give us to his son before the foundation of the world, keep us, call us, awaken us, give us the free gifts of faith and repentance, regenerate us, seal our salvation for our eternal sakes to leave it to our fallen wisdom to become unborn again and unrighteous in Christ and reject he that enabled us to believe upon him because God made an error before the foundation of the world !! We are on the trajectory he knew we would take and he assures us no matter what happens to preserve and uphold us, anyone else out there offering you anything like that ??
The biblical fact is every true believer will inevitably make it safely home to glory because the Lord is preserving him or her, so thank God that God keeps us through the work of the Holy Spirit who guards and guarantees the salvation of the ones He indwells (Ephesians 1:13; 4:30). The two halves of Psalm 63.8 reflect the two sides of the doctrine of perseverance: ‘My soul clings to you; your right hand upholds me.’ Our souls go on clinging to God in faith because his right hand is upholding us, so thank God for Gods perseverance and enduring love. Stephen, in his final sermon before he was killed for his faith, retold the story of God’s dealings with Israel from the time Abraham left his country in obedience to God’s command, all the way to the coming of Christ, the “Righteous One,” whom Israel betrayed and murdered. The crowd who heard Stephen hated what he said, covering their ears and rushing at him to stone him. “But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God” (Acts 7:55).
God has a completely different way of seeing things than us, God is always in control though we may not see that amidst enduring trials and tribulations, God knows exactly what these are and waits patiently like the loving father he is for acquiescence so he may empower us to the end.
Deuteronomy 31:6
Be strong and courageous. Do not fear or be in dread of them, for it is the Lord your God who goes with you. He will not leave you or forsake you.
Acts 1:8
But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.
1 John 4:4
Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.
(2 Cor 12:9-10.
9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
“If you make the Most High your dwelling, no harm will overtake you” (Psalm 91:9-10 NIV)
God’s people are surrounded by walls of protection. Nothing can truly harm us in the places that matter. But this isn’t a guarantee that we will experience no pain. It’s a promise that everything that comes to us, including our trials, is part of God’s fatherly, detailed care. Our Father will keep us safe, and he will keep us to the end.
The truth is that God doesn’t promise certain limits to suffering. He doesn’t guarantee personal happiness. He doesn’t ensure our escape from pain. His people are often crushed beyond measure: the Bible makes that abundantly clear.4 Here are some guarantees God’s word does give us:
• Suffering will come, but we will also share in Christ’s glory (1 Peter 4:12-13).
• All that happens will be for our good, to make us more like Jesus (Rom 8:28-30).
• Nothing can ever separate us from God’s love (Rom 8:38-39).
• He won’t let us be tempted - that is, tested - beyond what we can bear, but will provide a way for us to endure it (1 Cor 10:13).
• He will give us all we need for life and godliness (2 Pet 1:3)
• In our weakness, he will give us strength (2 Cor 12:9-10 cf 2 Cor 4:7-12; Phil 4:11-13; Col 1:11-14).
“I will say to the Lord, “My refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust.” (Psalm 91:2)
I can’t see how God is glorified by pain. Daily unremitting pain feels like hell. As a father, if my child was crying out in pain and I didn’t do anything about it I’m not sure what that would say about me. Also remember that your mind undergirds faith. Chronic pain changes your mind, your personality even starts changing when you are being tortured every day. And if your faith is weakened on account of it, is that your fault as if somehow you can just summon up faith? That somehow now God will punish you even more because you didn’t have enough faith in your chronic pain while more fortunate souls coast through life on the wings of pleasure, call themselves Christians, without a care and tell us in chronic pain to have faith. I wish I had answers but to think that my pain glorifies God - I’m not there yet.
I feel you. I was having an abnormally strong attack of my chronic pain the other day. I told my wife, “I know you would heal me in a heartbeat, so why doesn’t God?” I don’t understand the purpose for any of this. I’m already a Christian so it’s not like the pain is leading me to Christ. It seems utterly pointless.
Why do Christians suffer? For more details, please watch the sermon of the Light of Wisdom Church, welcome everyone to study and discuss together. Video “Happiness Increases Greed, and Greed Increases Suffering ｜The Essence of Happiness & True Freedom 03”
Pretty good answer
Can emotional pain and trauma, mental health issues, be classified as chronic pain? My family and I have been suffering for particularly a decade now, but the trauma started early for me, and also for my mother who doesn’t know Jesus yet. I’m praying God will save her so that her suffering won’t be in vain anymore. She doesn’t understand why God is allowing her to suffer so much, and she only wishes to have a calm and happy last few years of life, as she’s 51 and feels like her life’s been useless so far. She has no hope in anything apart from worldly things at this point, and none of the things in our life are trustworthy. The hurt and betrayal of my dad cheating on her last year and leaving hit especially hard, after he also burned our house down 11 years ago.
I wonder about this too. I’m in a similar situation to yours. I would say that all suffering - whether that is emotional or physical - is giving glory to God, given that we remain faithful, always affirming in our hearts that He is worth every bit of pain, He is more than worth it. I’ve always had such anger at how dysfunctional family life can be, many times I wanted to run away from home, or just cut people out of my life entirely, but realizing that no one can be perfectly healthy in this damaging world (physically or emotionally) and that as people, we are inevitably going to hurt each other, that we don’t give up when someone’s at their worst... that God is using those relationships to shape us into who He wants us to be... that has made all the difference. I feel free not to be anxious about what other people do, how other people try to hurt me, because I have a defender. It has helped immeasurably to realize that God brings everything together, even things we would never choose, and that is the only way He could make us exactly who He intends us to be.
Will pray for your mom. My mom is similar. Also praying for you. I know it’s very stressful as the child of an unsaved person to have this anxiety of “what’s going to happen to my mom?” It’s hard. I’m praying. ❤️
@@shelbycurry721 I have had clinical depression that did not respond to treatment and have also had chronic nerve pain from crushed vertebra in a car accident. I could not tell you which is worse. Having experienced both, I can say that they are very different from each other but I could not make a judgment over which is worse. Since I can't say one is worse than the other, I can say that both count as valid suffering. So if you are suffering, do not add guilt to that. I would guess that would only make you feel worse.
Sorry to hear about that. But honestly I don’t think they should be compared. Both mental and physical pain are difficult to deal with. But they’re very different to deal with. As someone who’s gone through both, I don’t think mental health issues should be called chronic pain. Chronic pain will literally turn your life upside down with no option, but the chances u overcome mental struggles are higher
Anyone can believe if "life things" are painless.. fruit trees are planted in the deep valleys of affliction.. not on the mountain tops of pleasure
How in the name of God can chronic pain glorify God? How?!?!?!?! How can a person being in unrelenting pain bring glory to God?
They are just messed up people who probably never read the New Testament. Try not to let it bother you.
As Piper explains, worshipping God in the midst of suffering is a powerful testament to nonbelievers that God is precious to you. That's how. It makes God look WONDERFUL, and you can be sure your reward in Heaven will be great.
This Lee Bard guy is utterly clueless in his beliefs. Many are like him and they are foolishly believing that God desires for us to suffer afflictions through pain, sickness and disabilities and that is simply utter nonsense that is being related by the believers who have been deceived the devil. Sickness comes from sin and only those who follow the devil’s lies can get sick since they are living in sin by disobeying God and His commands. What scripture means by suffering for God is how a child of God will suffer when dealing with the many deceived believers and the unbelievers of this evil fallen world. It has absolutely nothing at all to do with sickness or disabilities and deceived believers are reasoning that it does since they are trying to justify their sicknesses by twisting scripture verses.
Jesus and the Apostles did not possess sickness as some desire to believe. Jesus did not sin since He lived in holiness and once He sanctified His disciples in truth they then lived in holiness also. So their suffering was not from sickness as many desire to believe since their suffering came at the hands of the wicked people that they had to deal with. This is how they suffered for God since they were relating God’s truth but the majority of the believers that they had to deal with did not desire to hear God’s truth since it would expose their ignorance and their sin.
Scripture relates how Jesus openly rebuked and criticized the Pharisees and the Sadducees and yet most fail to realize that these were supposedly faithful believers. They probably even possessed more knowledge of scripture then most of today’s believers. When Jesus exposed their sin and their unbelief Jesus used words such as fools, foolish ones, evil, wicked, heathens, hypocrites, brood of vipers, son of hell and your father is the devil. The people back then did not like to hear how sinful they were and this why they hated Jesus so much and this is why they had Him crucified. So it is quite obvious that the deceived and evil believers of today are no different then the misguided believers back then since both obviously do not like to have their sin and their unbelief exposed.
“And He said to the man who had the withered hand, “Step forward.” Then He said to them, “Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?” But they kept silent. And when He had looked around at them with anger, being grieved by the hardness of their hearts, He said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” And he stretched it out, and his hand was restored as whole as the other.”
Mark 3:3-5 NKJV
This is where Paul’s suffering also came from through imprisonments, stoning and being whipped and it certainly was not from some type of sickness. To try and justify their afflictions many will often claim that Paul’s thorn in the flesh was a sickness. These people clearly prove that they do not understand God or scripture. What does a thorn in the flesh do? Well it causes pain and suffering. Just as Jesus suffered in the wilderness by being tempted by Satan, Jesus then allowed Satan to tempt Paul in order to make him stronger in the Holy Spirit.
“And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong.”
II Corinthians 12:7-10 NKJV
Many desire to believe that Paul possessed sickness and that he had bad eyesight and that is simply nonsense. If Acts 19 and 28 relates how Paul was able to remove the sickness from everyone who came to him then what could possibly make anyone believe that he was someone who possessed sickness in his life? Couldn’t Paul just remove the sickness from himself as he did with those who came to him for healing? Plus if Paul was bitten by a venomous snake and yet it did him no harm how could anyone possibly believe that type of nonsense! Paul simply suffered the same way other true disciples suffer and that is through the wickedness of the many deceived believers and unbelievers who follow the devil’s lies and nonsense.
“From the Jews five times I received forty stripes minus one. Three times I was beaten with rods; once I was stoned; three times I was shipwrecked; a night and a day I have been in the deep; in journeys often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils of my own countrymen, in perils of the Gentiles, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; in weariness and toil, in sleeplessness often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness- besides the other things, what comes upon me daily: my deep concern for all the churches. Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is made to stumble, and I do not burn with indignation? If I must boast, I will boast in the things which concern my infirmity.”
II Corinthians 11:24-30 NKJV
Infirmity means physical or mental weakness and it is not a sickness. This is why people are simply twisting scripture verses in order to justify the sin and the sicknesses that they possess in their wicked lives.
There is no sickness with God and there is no sickness for the true children of God since a child of God can no longer sin. Sin and sickness is strictly of the devil and you will only find sin and sickness in unbelievers and deceived believers since they are following the devil lies. They either do not understand or they do not believe what scripture is relating and so they are deceived. This certainly proves that they are not a Christian since a Christian is someone who has overcome sin and sickness in their life. Sickness comes from the devil and the devil can only touch you with afflictions if you belong to him. The devil cannot bring sickness on someone who is born of God because a child of God cannot sin and does not sin.
“Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him. Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.”
I John 3:6-8 NKJV
“Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.”
I John 3:9 NKJV
“We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.”
I John 5:18 NKJV
So you cannot possibly be a Christian if you can sin or you can get sick since only the children of the devil possess sin and sickness in their lives. Most believers are not Christians since a true Christian cannot sin nor can they ever get sick. To prove my point try and provide one scripture verse where God instructed you to live in sin or where God stated that you will always sin or you could never stop sinning?
Provide one scripture where God stated that a person who possesses sin and sickness in their life is His child?
Provide one scripture verse that states that a Christian will possess sickness in their lives or where scripture states that sickness is a normal part of this life?
I know that you cannot provide any scriptures because there are no such scriptures and that is why you would need to twist or add to God’s word so that you can justify the sin and the sickness that you possess in your unbelieving life.
“For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
Revelation 22:18-19 NKJV
@@mikerutkowski7265 Oh hey, it's you again! I'll be praying for you.
@@mikerutkowski7265 It's sad you lack a basic level of human empathy like that. It's even sadder you have such a poor understanding of the New Testament, (if you have read it).
I have chronic muscle and nerve pain and my spine is deteriorating have degenerative disc disease fractured vertebrae's fractured pelvis and fractured tailbone, I also have spina bifida with dimple tethered cord, I cry alot, what does God say about me and this pain
Trials of our faith. We have trials.
It can be. Just look at Paul who had his 'thorn in the flesh' which seems to have been some form of chronic illness. If Jesus had to suffer then its understandable that we should suffer too.
Yes, we aren't sure what Paul's thorn in the flesh was, but it was probably some sort of non-life-threatening physical ailment.
I do think, though, that if the pain is severe and very debilitating, it will probably be God's will to heal it before death.
This Hear God’s Voice is a child of the devil who is twisting scripture to try and justify the sin and sickness in his wicked life. He is simply a fool who knows nothing about God and scripture. There is no sickness with God and there is no sickness for the true children of God since a child of God can no longer sin.
Sin and sickness is strictly of the devil and you will only find sin and sickness in unbelievers and deceived believers since they are children of the devil who do not either understand or they do not believe what scripture is relating.
The children of the devil often try to use 1 John 1:8-1O or Romans 3:10, 3:23 and 7 in order to try and justify the sin that they possess in their wicked life. When they do they clearly prove that they have no idea what these scripture are relating or what they even mean.
First in Romans 7 Paul is simply relating how he was a sinner until He was freed by knowing Christ and these deceived souls clearly overlooked how Paul related that he had died to sin and was no longer a slave to sin in Romans 6. The other scriptures are simply relating that everyone is born in sin and ignorance and so this is why mankind falls short of the glory of God since they are not living righteously. These scriptures are relating that this is why we need to repent and confess our sins to God so that He will then forgive us. They also relate that anyone who believes that they have never sinned is then calling God a liar. But nowhere are any of these scriptures ever stating that a believer will always sin as the children of the devil desire to believe. Anyone who tries to use these scripture in order to justify the sin that they possess in their life proves that they are a deceived believer who is a sinner and they belong to the devil.
“He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.”
I John 3:8 NKJV
There is not one scripture that ever states that a child of God will sin or will have sickness in their life. There is not one scripture that ever states that a believer will always sin or can never stop sinning. There is not one scripture that ever states that a Christian who is a child of God will possess sickness in their life or states that sickness is a normal part of this life.
Scripture clearly relates that if you truly follow God and you are His child then you cannot sin and this is why God will not allow the devil to touch you with sickness and disease since God will remove them from your life.
“Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.”
I John 3:9 NKJV
“We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.”
I John 5:18 NKJV
“So you shall serve the LORD your God, and He will bless your bread and your water. And I will take sickness away from the midst of you. No one shall suffer miscarriage or be barren in your land; I will fulfill the number of your days.”
Exodus 23:25-26 NKJV
“And said, “If you diligently heed the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in His sight, give ear to His commandments and keep all His statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you which I have brought on the Egyptians. For I am the LORD who heals you.”
Exodus 15:26 NKJV
“And the LORD will take away from you all sickness, and will afflict you with none of the terrible diseases of Egypt which you have known, but will lay them on all those who hate you.”
Deuteronomy 7:15 NKJV
Scripture also relates that it is your sin that is allowing sickness to enter your life.
“But the one who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, a multitude being in that place. Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.”
John 5:13-14 NKJV
Psalm 107:17. “Fools, because of their transgression, And because of their iniquities, were afflicted.”
Know what this means? First transgression, it means an act that goes against a rule, a law or a code of conduct. Next iniquity, it means a wicked act or thing, sin. Finally, affliction, it means something that causes persistent pain or suffering. Translated it is saying that you are a fool if you do not follow God’s laws and commands and you go and sin because you will then have pain, suffering and sickness.
So all of this proves that the children of the devil will certainly try to twist scripture in order to justify the sin and the sicknesses that they possess in their life because they do not want to admit that they are deceived in their beliefs and they are not children of God.
To try and justify their afflictions some will claim that Paul’s thorn in the flesh was a sickness. For some reason many of these fools desire to believe that Paul possessed sickness and had bad eyesight. Acts 19 and 28 relates how Paul was able to remove the sickness from everyone who came to him so what could possibly make these deceived believers think that he was someone who had sickness in his life? Couldn’t Paul just remove the sickness from himself as he did with those who came to him for healing? Plus if Paul was bitten by a venomous snake and yet it did him no harm how could anyone possibly believe that Paul was someone who could then get sick himself?
These sinners also try to claim that the apostles were sinners themselves. Now did the apostles live in sin at some time in their life? They most definitely did since everyone is born in sin and in ignorance of truth. But the apostles were believers who allowed Jesus to sanctify their heart in God’s truth and they learned how to overcome their sins. This is why God then used them as His messengers and He gave them His power to heal. Read John 17:6-19 where Jesus prayed for their sanctification.
Many others try to manipulate what John 9:3, 1 Timothy 5:23, Galatians 4:13 and Philippians 2:26 are relating in order to explain the sicknesses they possess in their sinful lives. Some will even try and use Job and others from the Old Covenant to justify their sicknesses. When these deceived believers try to use anyone from the Old Covenant they certainly reveal their complete ignorance of scripture. Scripture relates that Job was a righteous man but what they clearly overlook is that we are all born in sin and ignorance and this included Job. Even though Job lived righteously he still possessed sin since there was no forgiveness of sins under the Old Covenant since Jesus had not arrived yet. Lastly, some will simply claim that sin has nothing to do with sickness and they deny the very words spoken by Jesus Himself.
“But the one who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, a multitude being in that place. Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.”
John 5:13-14 NKJV
So if you are a believer who can still sin or who can still get sick then you do not know Jesus at all and you certainly do not understand scripture or the blessing that Jesus provided for all of mankind. You are simply a deceived believer who is a child of Lucifer since you have clearly fallen for the devil’s lies in regards to scripture and what it is relating.
@@mikerutkowski7265 thanks for another one of your copy and pastes. Based on your false opinion Paul can't have been a believer because he got sick!! D'oh.
@@HearGodsWordPaul did not get sick fool and clearly copying and pasting irritates your ignorant and deceived soul. You are simply a child of the devil who lives in sin and sickness and you are destined for an eternity in hell. You are just like the majority of believers and you are deceived in your beliefs and so you are living in sin. This proves that you are not a Christian since a Christian is someone who has overcome sin and sickness in this earthly life.
Many are simply deceived believers and their sin proves that they are children of the devil since they are living in both sin and sickness. Sickness comes from the devil and the devil can only touch you if you belong to him. The devil cannot bring sickness on someone who is born of God because a child of God cannot sin and does not sin.
“Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him. Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.”
I John 3:6-8 NKJV
“Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.”
I John 3:9 NKJV
“We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.”
I John 5:18 NKJV
So you cannot possibly be a Christian if you can sin or you can get sick since only the children of the devil possess sin and sickness in their lives.
Give me just one scripture verse where God stated that a person who possesses sin and sickness in their life is His child?
Give me one scripture verse that states that a Christian will possess sickness in their lives or where scripture states that sickness is a normal part of this life?
Give me just one scripture verse that states that a believer will always sin or that a believer can never stop sinning?
I know that you cannot provide any scriptures because there are no such scriptures and that is why you would need to twist or add to God’s word so that you can try and justify the sin and the sickness that you possess in your unbelieving life.
“For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
Revelation 22:18-19 NKJV
So anyone who possesses sin and sickness in their life is proving they are a deceived believer who is a child of the devil and they are not a Christian since a Christian lives in the blessing that Jesus provided for all of mankind and this is why they can no longer sin nor can they ever get sick.
@@mikerutkowski7265 no I think copy and pasting is pathetic, but then you're more interested in promoting yourself than you are in bringing people to Christ.
If you're so sure that Paul didn't get sick then explain away his recurring thorn in the flesh...
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Intentions and motives
Glory to God for all things!
I'm so tired of not having a life. I was burnt out and exhausted at 18 and I'm 32 this year and I feel like my life has passed me by. I feel lazy because I don't have a diagnosis yet but I'm working on it. I'm so tired. and everything hurts. but doctors just dismiss it as anxiety...but I don't do anything! how and why am I "anxious" over nothing and how will I ever have a life, a job, a family, hobbies, if nothing makes me tired? I don't get it and I'm so depressed. my heart issues make it hard to do even small things and it makes it hard to keep the faith. I try and I'm trying. but I'm tired.
Kinda sounds like chronic fatigue from your brief description. Ever look into that?
Yes. I have been diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome & Fibromyalgia. What you are experiencing has been the same issues I go thru.
What is the chronic pain leads to suicide? Does that glorify God?
Lmao right? I’m not gonna put up with this much longer. I’m giving myself a few years and if nothing gets better, then it’s off to Japan where I can have a little fun exploring before I take the plunge. I know that may sound a tad strange but I’ve always wanted to go there
Christ suffered the most.
The Spirit himself testifies together with our spirit that we are God’s children, and if children, also heirs-heirs of God and coheirs with Christ-if indeed we suffer with him so that we may also be glorified with him. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is going to be revealed to us. Romans 8:16-18
@Maaazaroth Amen
I’ll take suffering for a few days over suffering every day for decades. That’s a cake walk
Amen.
Trick question. It doesn’t!!!! But WE can glorify God by giving him praise THROUGH the pain while we believe that the Devil is the one responsible for ALL pain, sickness, illness and that Jesus came so that we may have LIFE and have it more abundantly. The Bible says by His stripes we WERE healed!!! No ifs ands or buts! Once we pay attention to Jesus and what he did while on earth, we glorify God by RECEIVING his blessings and total healing that Jesus freely gave to us 2000 years ago when he died on the cross and rose again beating the devil! He said greater things will YOU do than I have done! He said pray for the sick and they WILL be healed! Healing IS ALWAYS his will!
You needed to tell us that God is a healer. What then is the Essence of asking the elders to pray for the sick in James 5:14-16? Is any sick?...
I’m a Born Again Christian. Love God and is a youth leader and goes to church. I failed University because of my low grades. What do I do?
i don't believe in a god that thinks there's a good reason to deeply wound a human to an unbearable point.
one thing i know there is a thousand maybe a million way to teach a lesson if that's what god trying to get to
But breaking his own creations to pieces for his own desire is just sick.
What would happen to our spirit and soul if we were to "STOP THE PAIN"? Would we go to hell?
INAdequate Response!!!
Pain does not glorify God. Pain is from the pit of hell. It steals your joy, your peace, people are housebound because of pain. Someone who was in pain to have their pain healed glorifys God. I will never accept being in pain or be at peace with being in pain. Jesus does not have pain, and as he is so am I in the Earth. Isn't that what the Bible says?
If your joy and peace come from worldly health then there are bigger problems, and maybe the Lord is trying to have you rely on Him more.
Is it theologically accurate to to take one verse and say well if the bible says this we can take it one step further and say that's God's will to? Even though the verse itself has conveniently left that one word out. Romans 8:35 Are you not adding to the scriptures your own word and meaning? After all we know it's God's will that we love others, yet many would be hard pressed to take that one step further and teach love means tolerance of others behavior at all times. You'd be adding a human teaching of tolerance to bibical teaching of love.
What about James?
Is any among you sick, call for the elders....
What illnesses do you all need prayer for? Comment below
Fibromyagia eupd
shattered pelvis and fractured spine and peripheral neuropathy...the nerve pain is the absolute worst...thanks!
Chronic bladder infection
Back leg and groin pain